From $37K to $65K that's the minimum range of profit return every month I think it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family
Just a note on failing a math class. I failed basic algebra twice when i was just starting community college. Looking back, it was just a mental block at the time, because not only did i pass algebra a couple of years later, i went on to take even more advanced math and ended up with a BS in Engineering. Maybe he just needs a break and try again later.
This is tough, but maybe it’s a chance to explore other paths like trades, certifications, or even starting something on your own. Keep pushing forward!
Once again, this proves some people are too stupid,entitled,lazy, unfocused, unmotivated to be wasted money on. This boy had college paid for yet child se to be an entitled parasite .
Your parents are brave. They tried helping you and making it easy and it didn’t work out. Some tough love will help. He sounds like a good kid wishing him the best!
not necessarily. many people once they become homeless become completely unmotivated the rest of their lives, never get a job or get out of homelessness, develop substance abuse problems and/or mental health issues. What this guy needs to do is join the military or something. They will find ways to motivate you.
@@Trackpad12Why? As an adult, is it fair for him to sit on his ass while his aging parents supply his lifestyle so he can worry about it “motivation”? He needs to get proactive about his life
We didn’t kick my son out after he decided to stop going to college. By making him pay for his expenses he decided to move out and find his own way. 4 years later he is doing very well and is a responsible person.
I wouldn't mind corporate, but I can't deal with ignorance & the poor ethics. 30 minutes of personal life, 10 minutes reviewing performance. 20 minutes talking about specific employees & the problems with them while never doing any corrections. Project implementation...lets have a meeting with everyone in the area Weeks later no follow up, months later here is your new work area. Employees: this is significantly worse than before. Bosses: yes the new layout works great Corporate is nonsense - our company is broke, lets pay shareholders higher dividends. Employees:can we get a raise? Corporate: our debt is high & profits are low, we need to improve before we can do raises.
He couldn't get off tiktok and the internet. This is so common among young people, even in grad school. They say its "motivation" just like this guy. Theyll blame ADHD and anxiety, just like this guy. And then they avoid all personal accountability with word choice like "it didnt work out for me" or "my parents are" or "the environment", just like this guy. Completely oblivious to the fact that they caused their own problems. Unfortunately, privilege sledom teaches agency.
@yashagarwal5685 just another old person with selection bias to the little that theyve seen from "young people", you cant group everyone together like that, because if theres something thats common, its that people are not.
I'm glad I was done with college in the early 2000's! now, I work from home and goof off on youtube all day while I work. the kids got it rough these days 🤣🤣🤣
Kudos to the parents! My husband and I had to do this with our son at age 21, and it was the best decision! He is a husband,father of 3, and a homeowner now.
I like how he is always like just work more hours. Some jobs don’t just have overtime to give. And getting 2 jobs that can coexist on a schedule that won’t interfere with one another can be insanely difficult
He sounds a lot like my brother who also needed to go out on his own to learn the hard way. They tried to tell him and prepared him, but he didn’t realize they were right about all of it until he was fully responsible for himself.
Lazy and unmotivated. All too common. I was that way in high school. Graduated with a .5 gpa my senior year. When it came to college I had to pay for it. Graduated with a 3.8 gpa magna cum laude, would have been suma but got a B in an elective. Funny how things change when you’re the one footing the bill.
I graduated university and yeah most people treat it as an 18+ daycare with parties, games, and anything aside from academics. ADHD and ADD are also absurdly over diagnosed which even if true don’t make it impossible to succeed.
I learned the hard way too. Failed a semester of college when I was 18 and learned quickly that success is not handed out to most people. That was a hard lesson to learn but I’m very glad I learned it early. Changed my whole outlook and my work ethic.
I really applaud Dave Ramsey for this. It sounds like the kid is still young and has a lot of growing up to do. Parents also made a fair deal with him.
I was in Basic Training 4 days after HS graduation. Never mooched, borrowed, or inherited a dime. Always invested THE FIRST 20% of every paycheck. Retired in comfort at 46. It can be done, but not if your parents make it unnecessary.
Having mommy and daddy supporting you as an adult is toxic. A lot of them think they're helping or saving their children by babying them into their twenties or even their thirties, and they're oblivious to the fact that they're ruining their kids' lives.
I'm guessing you weren't front line infantry. Glad you got a good stint in the military but some guys don't make it home, and when they do there is nothing but headache's with the VA, PTSD problems etc...
I had to ask my adult son to leave my home when he dropped out of college and refused to get a job. He hasn’t spoken to me in 7 years in spite of my continuing to reach out. Be careful with this tough love stuff folks, it doesn’t always work out the way you hope it will.
If it's not drinking and partying as he claims it's probably video games. If he was starting at home and his parents saw how he failed math because of video games then it totally makes sense that they'd kick him out. They probably figure some suffering in the real world will be enough to motivate him to take life seriously.
@@brooklynzoo81 Yep! The real world is get tough or die mean,nasty, uncompromising, unmerciful,and unforgiving. Obviously this pitiful boy never bothered being gainfully employed this learning pulling your weight in life is one of the FIRST requirements to adulthood. Now that parents have snatched rug from under him, he has to be in the real world,not mommy and daddy's basement playing video games and smoking weed.
"hunger is a powerful motivator" : When I was 20 I was young and stupid with my money. I didn't have any money and all I had was a Subway club card full of stamps. This was back before you even had to buy a drink to get a free sub. So I got a foot long with all the fixings and that's what I ate for the next 2 days until payday.
@@Imperfect_Stranger no! He is being lazy but he has another semester to get it together. If not, trade school. With this person having ADHD, that wouldn’t prevent them from only passing math. He needs to get a tutor. ADHD would make it difficult for all classes if he wasn’t taking medications or using focusing other techniques.
Add or adhd can definitely cause someone to not pass a class. It causes people to not be organized, and have proper time management. Doesn't mean they should have a free ride for their life. Get a job where the bosses manages your time. Tells you what to do and when to do it. Adhd people can focus on stuff they are interested in. Like play a video game for 15 hours straight. He definitely needs to get to work. He can do it. College isn't for everyone. If the calling to the job is strong enough, he can take a night class while working. He's young yet. Dropping out of college is not the end of the world or future dreams.
I hate this. I know people who actually have it. No, it’s not just going to start in college. I’ve seen this a million times and when people bring up ADHD, unless they have been struggling through elementary school, it’s just an excuse for being lazy or lacking time management skills. Others get basically addicted to gaming and fail out because they’d rather play Fortnight than read their assignments. The best cure for ADHD college onset ADHD is not to have a TV or gaming system in your room so you don’t do those things instead of studying. And if you’re using ADHD that you just discovered in college to get ADA helps, understand that not only are you basically scamming the system to benefit yourself, but quite often making life much harder for the kids who have real ADHD and are unable to compete with you.
Stop with those excuses. With phones, it is easy to manage your time with reminder alarms. I have been dealing with ADHD since the early 90s, so I know it's BS excuses.
While ADHD can be a problem for younger people until they learn strategies to manage it, at this age the caller can learn fairly simple strategies for time management, getting the things he *needs* to get done, finished on time. He sounds intelligent, but just making excuses. I have *severe* ADHD that went undiagnosed for decades, causing me a major problem with math among other issues. At least he already knows what his issue is. Plenty of free help in the library or online to learn strategies!. Didn't have the internet then to guide me. Once I learned some strategies, I passed all my math classes, including statistics, quickly, starting from essentially zero. Colleges generally have tutoring available too, along with study groups. He's just choosing to do other things with his time. Edit for clarity: I don't take medication for it, but for some people it can help a lot. The ability to hyperfocus can be either a gift or a curse, an *adult* chooses which one it will be.
We grew up poverty stricken, and my mother’s deal with her kids. Once she turned 18 and finished high school. You could live there for free if you went to school full-time or you could work part time and pay part-time rent and go to school part-time or you could work full-time and pay full rent. I don’t wanna do any of that so she threw me in the Navy and it was the best decision for both of us as she promised me you’ll never ever have trouble finding a job as a veteran and luckily, that is true. , it’s a good foyer experience for anyone that doesn’t have money for college or the brains for a scholarship
My parents were paying for me schooling, right up until I made a C my sophomore year. They told me the cost was on me. I finished the semester, joined the army, got some life experience, and now I'm in law school, 9 years of paralegal experience, a nice house, a wife, a newborn child, no debt asides from my mortgage and student loans, all at 27 and it's because my parents showed some tough love.
All that over a C is ridiculous. Damn near all college students has gotten a C at some point in college. It would be one thing if you were on academic probation but geez
@@jurellflewellen4760 Yeah that’s crazy. Especially since we all have our strengths and weaknesses. I’m helpless at math but always had As in all other subjects. Even people who always study hard sometimes don’t have the aptitude for everything.
Three years from now, when he is living in a ditch like I was after "tough love" i'm sure he'll sit there and think to himself "yeah that's what I needed"
I practiced tough love with my son after he dropped out of college. He hasn’t spoken to me in 7 years. I let him know the door is open but it’s likely he’s not coming around. Be careful what you do, actions have consequences.
Everything he’s saying is perfectly fine and I’m happy with all of it. He is allowed to try things out, quit, and change his mind as many times as he wants. I’m also glad his parents kicked him out of the nest when he isn’t in school
Tough love is what parents do when you should take responsibility. This young man needs to get his priorities straight. People with ADHD can learn to manage themselves to be more successful.
I'm amazed at how clueless so many young people are today. Bottom line is that if he cannot afford to live in Denver, is NOT that his parents need to support him. Bottom line is that if he cannot afford to live in Denver, he does NOT live in Denver. When I graduated from high school, my parents lived in a small town where there were no colleges and there were no jobs. So I didn't stay there and expect my parents to support me. I moved to a city where I could get a job and where I could go to school. And the extent to which my parents helped me was that they drove me to the bus station when I was ready to leave town. If you cannot find a job where you live, move to where you CAN find a job. If you cannot afford housing where you live, move to where you CAN find housing. You do whatever you have to do in order to support yourself. You do not give up and think the only solution is that your parents must be responsible for a person who is old enough to be responsible for himself.
There's something that we're not getting told, here. Not many parents kick you out because you failed at school. Usually the ultimatum goes something like "You need to get a job and start paying rent and your share of the bills or find somewhere else to live, if you're not going to school". And at a tertiary level, if you failed a subject, that's not the end of the world. It's one module. You get back on the horse and do that subject again next year. It's one module out of dozens! And where did the money go that he was making while working and living rent free at home? Bad habits? Stupid expensive purchases? Where?
his parents paid for his college and let him live rent free because he didn't have a job. flunk out and took advantage of their kindness. now he's desperate because he is being told to leave and he still doesn't have a job. dude goofed off on social media all day
I narrowly failed one semester and my parents kicked me out at 19. I was homeless for 6 months. Then I had to live with a friend's family for a year after that... think about it my friend's family cared more about me... that was a tough realization... About 2 years after getting kicked out and having worked tons of odd jobs I finally moved into my girlfriend's house which was a much more stable and less chaotic environment than my friend's house. It was only then did I begin to truly grow and find a good job I could work hard at.
I narrowly failed one semester and my parents kicked me out at 19. I was homeless for 6 months. Then I had to live with a friend's family for a year after that... think about it my friend's family cared more about me... that was a tough realization... About 2 years after getting kicked out and having worked tons of odd jobs I finally moved into my girlfriend's house which was a much more stable and less chaotic environment than my friend's house. It was only then did I begin to truly grow and find a good job I could work hard at.
@@Paul-ou1rx “fed you and gave you a place to live” isn’t that your job as a parent? “Burn money on your education” They could have just sent him to community college or maybe got him into a trade, since you know he’s ADHD.
@@riku3716you’re an adult now. parents don’t have to keep helping. if you can’t help yourself & your parents are constantly up your behind the only chance you’ll have at changing & becoming a man is leaving my house!
College isn't for everyone. I was forced to go and pretty much hated it. Found my forte as an entrepreneur. Stayed with my folks a grand total of 2 weeks after high school, when in between places.
I did this while going to aeronautics school and working 20-30 hours a week washing dishes at Denny’s and school janitor. Lived in Safeway parking lot.CB radio,8in b&w tv, dual batteries, no AC,sink baths in gas stations, lots of ramen noodles,cheap fast food, 90% off day old pastries from bakery,warming food on engine block, police waking me up with flashlights,etc.. Peacefully studying and even weekends down by the Arkansas river. Made the Dean’s List.
its funny because past generations could afford to figure things out on a shitty job when they got kicked out at an affordable apartment. Give it 15 years and people wont even be able to afford the vanlife and it will just be tent life. Adolescence is not affordable and becomes less affordable by the day.
I didn't like the corporate environment either but I didn't want to live under a bridge so I worked over 50 years. Most people don't like it. that's why they call it work. This guy has a lot to learn. lol not good at managing time with homework assignments lol.... in other words he partied instead of studying
I hate my corporate job at age 47. I do it to pay the bills. hey kids, you have to do the same. us old people have to retire, you young kids will get these corporate bitch jobs. don't you know? Corporations are the new slave masters. slavery never went away in the USA.
An alternative to denver and housing covered could be a gig on a cruiseship. Sometimes a change of scenery helps conquer the rut/break up the patterns that hinder success and moving toward the life one wants to live.
@@frankvonfrauner this conversation, he showed clear signs of ADHD. Do you know what that is like to get distracted by any little thing. I have lived with it my entire life. A fucking butterfly on a wall has distracted me for an hour. OK it doesn't have to be pot or gaming or anything mainstream. I remember sitting and watching a waterfall for 12 hours one time have you ever done that? Probably not. People like him have slower minds. It's absurd They're expected to keep up at the same pace as others. It's literally a disability but it's not classified as one because it's hard to tell who has it and who doesn't.
Honestly, decades ago potheads went to college too, and they didn't have the high costs of today. It was easy for them. Today, there is no forgiveness if you make mistakes. What a horrible society.
ADHD is a learning disability, because it actually messes with your attention span. However, this is basically guy asking what job to get to survive because he doesn't know how to actually function in real world. Not surprising, unfortunately this is common place in wealthy countries.
With grade inflation being what it is, professors are almost barred from giving a final grade less than a C unless the student just plain ghosts the class. You have to be lazy af or utterly witless to flunk out of college - or just drunk and partying nonstop. This guy is an idiot. He didn't do his homework and fluffed off the class. There is a shit ton of help available on campus if you're having trouble.
You got that right! Even if grades weren't inflated, at most colleges you have too many study groups,too many faculty wanting to help for anyone to flunk out. This stupid boy probably spent his study time drinking drugging,etc al instead of seeing succeeding in school as his FIRST JOB, NOT BEER PONG.
I don’t know what kind of third rate university you went to but plenty of people flunk in the UCs. you also need a C or more for it to count. There was grade inflation in the lockdown covid years but that’s it.
I generally do not support parents kicking out children but this one on point, parents did their part. Now the son should learn his lesson hard way. This is how it should be done.
@GAFB1122 Go walk your dogs. You project your disappointment in not having kids onto me. I'm actually sorry you couldn't have kids or didn't have kids or what ever your situation was however I think you would have not been the greatest mother so maybe that was a blessing in disguise.
@@BlessedOne_91 He never gave the reasons why he couldn't manage his time. He hemmed and hawed when asked. He said he wasn't "that kid" about the drinking and smoking. So what was he doing instead of studying? Playing video games? Hanging with friends? Goofing off? Those answers were extremely vague.
@@robedmund9948 “ADHD” is a legitimate reason for time mismanagement. I know fully grown adults who suck at managing time. Playing video games and partying is not uncommon at his age. His parents aren’t helping him and I hope he gets out their house asap and never contacts them again. Like I stated, the parents should be held accountable for waiting so long to take action and not getting him the proper help he needs.
Listen to it again. It was Christmas. Christmas is at the end of the year which is when he said he was getting kicked out. He likely had one month notice or less.
@@BrianW211 I know a software engineer... sits on his ass eight hours a day and writes a few lines of code while binge watching Netflix from his couch... he doesn't get the "tough love" from his parents. Sure has money, but he's never had to work hard. by his own admittance. Comes natural to him.
Failed a class for “not managing time.” It takes work to fail, you have to never speak to the professor, avoid class, avoid the professor, avoid homework. Shame shame shame.
I can just tell by this conversation this dude has some issues. He can't keep a straight conversation. Something is going on. He needs to see a doctor but I doubt he still has coverage.
From my experience, some professors aren’t very helpful. Some of them don’t speak proper English. You may have to teach yourself the material most of the time.
Maybe. I had a similar issue but I ended up at disabilities services and being diagnosed with OCD and depression. I took a break from school and got on a good medication regimen and went back and finished. It was good for me to stop and pay for the rest myself after I knew I could actually do it. It took 8 years but now I have a Master's, a husband, a son, a homeowner and a very comfortable life.
I worked 3 jobs, and commuted at least an hour each way during college. I almost flunked out because I was far more interested in kicking it at my boyfriend’s house. I had a come-to-Jesus with an academic counselor who refocused my energy. My life depended on getting my undergraduate degree. I think this young man is about to experience a serious growth spurt!
If this young man doesnt get his ADHD treated hes going to be working paycheck to paycheck his entire life, either burning out or getting fired every year or so, he will never stop making careless mistakes and he'll never really pick up any skills because 99% of his brain power is being spent just on not being inappropriate at work, not making catastrophic oversights no one else at that job would do, constantly emotionally regulating extreme emotions, you will grind and grind and never get anywhere, especially in this economy. And you will never have friends or a girlfriend. I hope the caller reads this.
Living independently he you grow responsible and take accountability for yourself. You don't need to hold your parents hands. You solve your own problem.
Then teach your kid now, how to be self sufficient. Parents whose kids have jobs and help contribute to the household once they're old enough, you don't have to worry about.
@@MelissainRealLife unfortunately, that's on them. I learned that my lack of action had consequences ... and I learned. I make well over six figures now.
Everyone has an opinion on what THEY think ADHD is and they're wrong 99% of the time. Look up executive dysfunction and tell me you wouldnt want to blow your head off if you had it. But if you call it ADHD everyone just thinks you're a goof off. It's so frustrating because people who suffer from this, people who make themselves study but cant remember what they read and panic and flunk out of school despite trying harder than everyone else in the damn class, never can get their lives off the ground to begin with and on top of that every time they open their mouth to someone they get mocked and picked on and shamed. If Dave Ramsey woke up tomorrow with executive dysfunction, his entire life would evaporate and everyone close to him would turn and run.
Yeah, I don't buy it. Everyone has executive dysfunction to some extend and they use tools to manage that. Those with major executive dysfunction just need stronger or more tools. Time blindness? Use timeboxing and reminders. Getting distracted? Create an environment with as little as possible distractions. Struggling to start with boring tasks? Sit yourself down and start and get as far as you can, then do 10 burpees and start again. Struggling with impulse control? Eliminate your means by which you can fullfill your impulses. At the end of the day, you are responsible for yourself. If you can't take responsibility for yourself, then you can't expect people to treat you as an adult with the same agency as other adults.
No, he needed to get motivated to study instead of screwing around, his parents ARE helping him by teaching him a valuable lesson!! WORK SUCKS, but as an adult that's what you have to do if you want 3 hots and a cot of your own!
For unmotivated people, it's better to work and take a few classes. At first, they may get fired from a few jobs and fail a few classes, but they will eventually grow in both.
I have the same rule for my son. He has known it his whole life. I left home at 18, tried to do college and take care of myself. Work out great for two years, got cancer, my parents cared for me for about two years, and I moved back out when I was healthy. They were there for me, 100%, but expected and supported becoming an adult and being independent.
M dad kicked me out the house in 2002 because he caught me smoking weed in the house. I was 22 and it did me a lot of good. Finished college and ended up working for the state of California. Good times
Actually ADHD would keep him from passing. Caller is describe it well. This caller is going to flunk life if an adult doesnt walk with him. Seems like his parents one strategy was tough love when the caller needed things put in chunks - with tough love for one thing at a time.
I live in denver, he can easily get a roommate and an apartment. There are apartments for $1500 per month, and rooms to rent for $500 per month. It's not that expensive. He just wants a pitty party.
Something tells me this ultimatum didn’t come out of nowhere. I have a feeling he has a history of not finishing things or failing at things and just expected mommy and daddy to bail him out. This time they said Nope
This kid is describing classic ADHD. He needs to be on medication so he can focus on math. It will make so much difference. Also, both areas north and south of Denver are just as expensive. My grandson ended up living in his car until he was medicated. He is now back in school. It's not a matter of tough love.
That motivation will kick in real quick when youre out on your butt. Parents spent all that money on school and he didnt appreciate it. Its time to get uncomfortable Elliott.
My daughter has adhd and she was flunking tests bc her time management skills were very bad and she did the homework but would lose it all the time. Teachers told me to try “tough love” and she ended up flunking and being put into special education classes. What she needed was more time to finish her tests and help with learning how to study and keep organized and with special accommodations she went to college and just graduated. The road was NOT EASY and there were many times we did not know who to listen to. Motivation and viewing the future are just not there for some of these kids. I believe that if we would have listened to her teachers she definitely never would have gone to college. She is now working full time in a job that keeps her interested and wanting to learn more. Sometimes traditional college does not work for people with learning difficulties like these and a trade school is an option. I wish him well bc I know that for many years my daughter thought of herself as “not good enough “but I knew better. It’s funny now when she runs into her old teachers and she tells them that she graduated early (in 3 years) and is working. They are always so surprised .
That's great, but it obviously wasn't this kid's problem. He made it through high school and his first year of college just fine. He obviously was just playing games and/or hanging out with friends instead of doing the work.
From $37K to $65K that's the minimum range of profit return every month I think it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family
How please?
How can I go about it
Yeah, since meeting Matthew D Heck, I now agree that with an expert managing your portfolio, the rate of profit is high, with less risk.
I will advise you stop trading on your own if you keep losing… i don't trade on my own anymore, I always required help and assistance
Sounds familiar, I have heard his name on several occasions.. And both his success stories on wall street journey!
Just a note on failing a math class. I failed basic algebra twice when i was just starting community college. Looking back, it was just a mental block at the time, because not only did i pass algebra a couple of years later, i went on to take even more advanced math and ended up with a BS in Engineering. Maybe he just needs a break and try again later.
Nothing is stopping him from going back to college on his own dime. 👍 Lots of folks work and go to college.
@@jvarsall He won't have a dime of his own to return to college. He'll be another debt slave.
This is tough, but maybe it’s a chance to explore other paths like trades, certifications, or even starting something on your own. Keep pushing forward!
Where is he supposed to live while pursuing other paths?
Coming from your UA-cam video, What’s the central mission of your team, and are there any groundbreaking initiatives in the works?
Once again, this proves some people are too stupid,entitled,lazy, unfocused, unmotivated to be wasted money on. This boy had college paid for yet child se to be an entitled parasite .
@@BREEZYM6015Get 4 roommates. Take certification classes and do uber/lyft when you aren’t in class.
@@BREEZYM6015 Got to man up and pay rent.
I had to make my daughter move out too. She needed to get out in the world and basically grow up. She is now the Treasurer of a city in Oklahoma.
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Dude just called in and was like “I have to work what do I do”
Ramsey “have you tried working?”
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😢: the day is coming
Your parents are brave. They tried helping you and making it easy and it didn’t work out. Some tough love will help. He sounds like a good kid wishing him the best!
'I am not motivated". Well exactly why getting thrown out is best thing for him. Nothing will create motivation like living on the street.
This is garbage advice
not necessarily. many people once they become homeless become completely unmotivated the rest of their lives, never get a job or get out of homelessness, develop substance abuse problems and/or mental health issues. What this guy needs to do is join the military or something. They will find ways to motivate you.
@@Trackpad12Why? As an adult, is it fair for him to sit on his ass while his aging parents supply his lifestyle so he can worry about it “motivation”? He needs to get proactive about his life
@@Trackpad12 He's in a situation where all possible advice is garbage.
That will overwhelm an ADHA person and make it worse. He has a real medical condition.
We didn’t kick my son out after he decided to stop going to college. By making him pay for his expenses he decided to move out and find his own way. 4 years later he is doing very well and is a responsible person.
This is why college students should have to pay at least half of their tuition. When your own money is on the line, you'll work harder.
And a student with his own money on the line would likely waste less!
@@dangeroreilly2028 Or protest less.
Also, spend less time at feat parties and more on studying.
If the school costs are 100k, how is some guy going to find 50k to pay for it?
@marlan5470 Especially how he now has to pay for accommodation and food since he has been kicked out of home.
I didn’t like the “corporate environment.”
Welcome to the real world kiddo! What I expected Dave to say.
I just became two people corporate me and off work me.
I wouldn't mind corporate, but I can't deal with ignorance & the poor ethics.
30 minutes of personal life, 10 minutes reviewing performance. 20 minutes talking about specific employees & the problems with them while never doing any corrections.
Project implementation...lets have a meeting with everyone in the area
Weeks later no follow up, months later here is your new work area.
Employees: this is significantly worse than before.
Bosses: yes the new layout works great
Corporate is nonsense - our company is broke, lets pay shareholders higher dividends.
Employees:can we get a raise?
Corporate: our debt is high & profits are low, we need to improve before we can do raises.
Seemed like "corporate speak" in how he was talking.
Hunny
He couldn't get off tiktok and the internet. This is so common among young people, even in grad school. They say its "motivation" just like this guy. Theyll blame ADHD and anxiety, just like this guy. And then they avoid all personal accountability with word choice like "it didnt work out for me" or "my parents are" or "the environment", just like this guy. Completely oblivious to the fact that they caused their own problems. Unfortunately, privilege sledom teaches agency.
What gives you to God giving right the judge hypocrite
Stop blaming everything on that.
@@jbthehero2506free will gives me the right to criticize, and criticize I will 😂
@yashagarwal5685 just another old person with selection bias to the little that theyve seen from "young people", you cant group everyone together like that, because if theres something thats common, its that people are not.
I'm glad I was done with college in the early 2000's! now, I work from home and goof off on youtube all day while I work. the kids got it rough these days 🤣🤣🤣
Kudos to the parents! My husband and I had to do this with our son at age 21, and it was the best decision! He is a husband,father of 3, and a homeowner now.
Fail
@@johndone8045 someone's living comfy under Daddy's roof lol
But was he ADHD like this young man?
@@Imperfect_StrangerThat’s no an excuse.
@@singerjo5791 Educate yourself on ADHA and save yourself embarrassment.
I like how he is always like just work more hours. Some jobs don’t just have overtime to give. And getting 2 jobs that can coexist on a schedule that won’t interfere with one another can be insanely difficult
He sounds a lot like my brother who also needed to go out on his own to learn the hard way. They tried to tell him and prepared him, but he didn’t realize they were right about all of it until he was fully responsible for himself.
Lazy and unmotivated. All too common. I was that way in high school. Graduated with a .5 gpa my senior year. When it came to college I had to pay for it. Graduated with a 3.8 gpa magna cum laude, would have been suma but got a B in an elective. Funny how things change when you’re the one footing the bill.
Playing video games instead of studying.
Exactly
I graduated university and yeah most people treat it as an 18+ daycare with parties, games, and anything aside from academics.
ADHD and ADD are also absurdly over diagnosed which even if true don’t make it impossible to succeed.
don't forget youtube and tiktok
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Alot of irresponsible people these days smh
As my Daddy used to say, "A little suffering goes a long way."
No pain no gain I was told! 😅
Nowadays not enough parents are doing this.
@@JPB1976 Ha! I'm guessing I'm older. He also said, "Don't write checks with your mouth that your behind can't cash."
@@brianpeterson6976 Pretty sure my parents would have changed the locks if we hadn't moved out the year we turned 18.
@@JPB1976 Same here. I'm guessing today's crop of kids don't hear stuff like that anymore.
I learned the hard way too. Failed a semester of college when I was 18 and learned quickly that success is not handed out to most people. That was a hard lesson to learn but I’m very glad I learned it early. Changed my whole outlook and my work ethic.
I really applaud Dave Ramsey for this. It sounds like the kid is still young and has a lot of growing up to do. Parents also made a fair deal with him.
I was in Basic Training 4 days after HS graduation.
Never mooched, borrowed, or inherited a dime.
Always invested THE FIRST 20% of every paycheck.
Retired in comfort at 46.
It can be done, but not if your parents make it unnecessary.
Having mommy and daddy supporting you as an adult is toxic.
A lot of them think they're helping or saving their children by babying them into their twenties or even their thirties, and they're oblivious to the fact that they're ruining their kids' lives.
I'm guessing you weren't front line infantry. Glad you got a good stint in the military but some guys don't make it home, and when they do there is nothing but headache's with the VA, PTSD problems etc...
Good for you. Textbook case on how to succeed.
I had to ask my adult son to leave my home when he dropped out of college and refused to get a job. He hasn’t spoken to me in 7 years in spite of my continuing to reach out. Be careful with this tough love stuff folks, it doesn’t always work out the way you hope it will.
You no longer have a lazy slacker in your basement. That's a win.
When you start teaching accountability at 7 instead of 17, it helps.
Go to work in retail stocking shelves & work your way up to mgmt. I did it because I wasn't sure what I wanted to do.
2:30 hes saying he was distracted with video games. Im 90% sure of this but itcould be something else, but unlikely
He never said video games.
@ that’s why I’m not 100% sure
@@avgeragejoe I’d peg it at 99.5% sure it was video games..
If it's not drinking and partying as he claims it's probably video games. If he was starting at home and his parents saw how he failed math because of video games then it totally makes sense that they'd kick him out. They probably figure some suffering in the real world will be enough to motivate him to take life seriously.
He has had a cupcake life, and now he's afraid of entering the real world.
@@brooklynzoo81 Yep! The real world is get tough or die mean,nasty, uncompromising, unmerciful,and unforgiving. Obviously this pitiful boy never bothered being gainfully employed this learning pulling your weight in life is one of the FIRST requirements to adulthood. Now that parents have snatched rug from under him, he has to be in the real world,not mommy and daddy's basement playing video games and smoking weed.
That's a lot of assuming.
Baggage handling is hardly the cooperate world.
😂😂😂💀💀💀
"hunger is a powerful motivator" : When I was 20 I was young and stupid with my money. I didn't have any money and all I had was a Subway club card full of stamps. This was back before you even had to buy a drink to get a free sub. So I got a foot long with all the fixings and that's what I ate for the next 2 days until payday.
I can’t say being homeless is a motivator because if that was the case, we would have no homeless people
Buttercup heart just melted.
Welcome to the real life my guy! My son can be your roommate if he doesn’t get it together this semester!
Your son has ADHD too?
Lol
@@Imperfect_Stranger no! He is being lazy but he has another semester to get it together. If not, trade school. With this person having ADHD, that wouldn’t prevent them from only passing math. He needs to get a tutor. ADHD would make it difficult for all classes if he wasn’t taking medications or using focusing other techniques.
@ashleyjones5396 Clearly you are unfamiliar with what the complexities and symptomology ADHA.
@ashleyjones5396 Like I said HE NEEDS HELP!
Add or adhd can definitely cause someone to not pass a class. It causes people to not be organized, and have proper time management. Doesn't mean they should have a free ride for their life.
Get a job where the bosses manages your time. Tells you what to do and when to do it.
Adhd people can focus on stuff they are interested in. Like play a video game for 15 hours straight.
He definitely needs to get to work. He can do it. College isn't for everyone.
If the calling to the job is strong enough, he can take a night class while working.
He's young yet. Dropping out of college is not the end of the world or future dreams.
What you described was called laziness and immaturity before they made a pill for it and sold it to people.
I hate this. I know people who actually have it. No, it’s not just going to start in college. I’ve seen this a million times and when people bring up ADHD, unless they have been struggling through elementary school, it’s just an excuse for being lazy or lacking time management skills. Others get basically addicted to gaming and fail out because they’d rather play Fortnight than read their assignments.
The best cure for ADHD college onset ADHD is not to have a TV or gaming system in your room so you don’t do those things instead of studying. And if you’re using ADHD that you just discovered in college to get ADA helps, understand that not only are you basically scamming the system to benefit yourself, but quite often making life much harder for the kids who have real ADHD and are unable to compete with you.
Stop with those excuses. With phones, it is easy to manage your time with reminder alarms. I have been dealing with ADHD since the early 90s, so I know it's BS excuses.
While ADHD can be a problem for younger people until they learn strategies to manage it, at this age the caller can learn fairly simple strategies for time management, getting the things he *needs* to get done, finished on time. He sounds intelligent, but just making excuses. I have *severe* ADHD that went undiagnosed for decades, causing me a major problem with math among other issues. At least he already knows what his issue is. Plenty of free help in the library or online to learn strategies!. Didn't have the internet then to guide me. Once I learned some strategies, I passed all my math classes, including statistics, quickly, starting from essentially zero. Colleges generally have tutoring available too, along with study groups. He's just choosing to do other things with his time. Edit for clarity: I don't take medication for it, but for some people it can help a lot. The ability to hyperfocus can be either a gift or a curse, an *adult* chooses which one it will be.
@@TheresaReichleyexactly.
Sounds like my 30 year old brother. Still unemployed and didn’t go to school. Still living with my mom.
So sad, no doubt your mom enables him to live the life of a child and never develop the maturity, work ethic, and self confidence of an adult human.
He is her son/husband by design.
Is your mother married?
We grew up poverty stricken, and my mother’s deal with her kids. Once she turned 18 and finished high school. You could live there for free if you went to school full-time or you could work part time and pay part-time rent and go to school part-time or you could work full-time and pay full rent. I don’t wanna do any of that so she threw me in the Navy and it was the best decision for both of us as she promised me you’ll never ever have trouble finding a job as a veteran and luckily, that is true. , it’s a good foyer experience for anyone that doesn’t have money for college or the brains for a scholarship
I got a lot better at college going back older and to a community college. Look at trades and short term certifications.
My parents were paying for me schooling, right up until I made a C my sophomore year. They told me the cost was on me. I finished the semester, joined the army, got some life experience, and now I'm in law school, 9 years of paralegal experience, a nice house, a wife, a newborn child, no debt asides from my mortgage and student loans, all at 27 and it's because my parents showed some tough love.
Question: Was it a C in one class, or were you getting nothing but C's the entire year?
@marchosch3876 had all A's except in 1 class where I screwed up my final and ended with a C lol
@@GODComplex8023a C is not that bad depending on the major honestly feels like an excessive response but seems like you came out of it ok
All that over a C is ridiculous. Damn near all college students has gotten a C at some point in college. It would be one thing if you were on academic probation but geez
@@jurellflewellen4760 Yeah that’s crazy. Especially since we all have our strengths and weaknesses. I’m helpless at math but always had As in all other subjects. Even people who always study hard sometimes don’t have the aptitude for everything.
Sometimes tough love is what some people need
Three years from now, when he is living in a ditch like I was after "tough love" i'm sure he'll sit there and think to himself "yeah that's what I needed"
I practiced tough love with my son after he dropped out of college. He hasn’t spoken to me in 7 years. I let him know the door is open but it’s likely he’s not coming around. Be careful what you do, actions have consequences.
@@firefly9838Your fault. There’s always a job if you really want it, even if you have to move away.
Everything he’s saying is perfectly fine and I’m happy with all of it.
He is allowed to try things out, quit, and change his mind as many times as he wants.
I’m also glad his parents kicked him out of the nest when he isn’t in school
Seeing what life can be like without a degree that can get you a good job can be a great motivator. It worked for me!
Tough love is what parents do when you should take responsibility. This young man needs to get his priorities straight. People with ADHD can learn to manage themselves to be more successful.
I'm amazed at how clueless so many young people are today. Bottom line is that if he cannot afford to live in Denver, is NOT that his parents need to support him. Bottom line is that if he cannot afford to live in Denver, he does NOT live in Denver. When I graduated from high school, my parents lived in a small town where there were no colleges and there were no jobs. So I didn't stay there and expect my parents to support me. I moved to a city where I could get a job and where I could go to school. And the extent to which my parents helped me was that they drove me to the bus station when I was ready to leave town. If you cannot find a job where you live, move to where you CAN find a job. If you cannot afford housing where you live, move to where you CAN find housing. You do whatever you have to do in order to support yourself. You do not give up and think the only solution is that your parents must be responsible for a person who is old enough to be responsible for himself.
Agreed. We used to live in the Denver metro. Couldn’t afford living in Colorado so we moved to another state where living is affordable.
There's something that we're not getting told, here. Not many parents kick you out because you failed at school. Usually the ultimatum goes something like "You need to get a job and start paying rent and your share of the bills or find somewhere else to live, if you're not going to school". And at a tertiary level, if you failed a subject, that's not the end of the world. It's one module. You get back on the horse and do that subject again next year. It's one module out of dozens!
And where did the money go that he was making while working and living rent free at home? Bad habits? Stupid expensive purchases? Where?
his parents paid for his college and let him live rent free because he didn't have a job. flunk out and took advantage of their kindness. now he's desperate because he is being told to leave and he still doesn't have a job. dude goofed off on social media all day
I narrowly failed one semester and my parents kicked me out at 19. I was homeless for 6 months. Then I had to live with a friend's family for a year after that... think about it my friend's family cared more about me... that was a tough realization...
About 2 years after getting kicked out and having worked tons of odd jobs I finally moved into my girlfriend's house which was a much more stable and less chaotic environment than my friend's house. It was only then did I begin to truly grow and find a good job I could work hard at.
I narrowly failed one semester and my parents kicked me out at 19. I was homeless for 6 months. Then I had to live with a friend's family for a year after that... think about it my friend's family cared more about me... that was a tough realization...
About 2 years after getting kicked out and having worked tons of odd jobs I finally moved into my girlfriend's house which was a much more stable and less chaotic environment than my friend's house. It was only then did I begin to truly grow and find a good job I could work hard at.
@@cutehumor That's what I'm thinking, too.
@@firefly9838 That's pretty rough.
"We fed you, gave you a place to live and you sat there and watched us burn money on your education."
@@Paul-ou1rx “fed you and gave you a place to live” isn’t that your job as a parent?
“Burn money on your education” They could have just sent him to community college or maybe got him into a trade, since you know he’s ADHD.
Feeding you, giving you place to life and educating you...
Translation being a parent.
Entitled are you .@@riku3716
@@riku3716you’re an adult now. parents don’t have to keep helping. if you can’t help yourself & your parents are constantly up your behind the only chance you’ll have at changing & becoming a man is leaving my house!
@@riku3716 you accept a loser who flunked out of college then.
College isn't for everyone. I was forced to go and pretty much hated it. Found my forte as an entrepreneur. Stayed with my folks a grand total of 2 weeks after high school, when in between places.
College is for intellectuals mainly.
Similar happened to a high school friend.
Guess who joined the navy
The Navy sends you to schools too. If you think the testing ends in the Navy, you are wrong.
Vanlife my dude. Work 2 jobs, save the pennies. Do it for 18months tops. Don't trick out the van. Just heat, dry food. A bed.
I did this while going to aeronautics school and working 20-30 hours a week washing dishes at Denny’s and school janitor.
Lived in Safeway parking lot.CB radio,8in b&w tv, dual batteries, no AC,sink baths in gas stations, lots of ramen noodles,cheap fast food, 90% off day old pastries from bakery,warming food on engine block, police waking me up with flashlights,etc..
Peacefully studying and even weekends down by the Arkansas river.
Made the Dean’s List.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 Amazing story! I see you on other channels! God bless you!
its funny because past generations could afford to figure things out on a shitty job when they got kicked out at an affordable apartment. Give it 15 years and people wont even be able to afford the vanlife and it will just be tent life. Adolescence is not affordable and becomes less affordable by the day.
"I like the work environment but not the work."
Lmao 🤣 Welp!
He’s trying to find a yes man. To validate not doing the work.
Trade school would be a great idea. Trades make good money and you don’t have an insane debt to pay back.
He'll look back in 5 years and will be glad this happened
A lot of trucking companies will pay to train you. Changed my life. Went from making 20k to 60-80k in about a month
I suspect he's playing video games and watching idiot gamers all night. My son did the same thing.
I didn't like the corporate environment either but I didn't want to live under a bridge so I worked over 50 years. Most people don't like it. that's why they call it work. This guy has a lot to learn. lol not good at managing time with homework assignments lol.... in other words he partied instead of studying
...or worked dead end non career type jobs.
I hate my corporate job at age 47. I do it to pay the bills. hey kids, you have to do the same. us old people have to retire, you young kids will get these corporate bitch jobs. don't you know? Corporations are the new slave masters. slavery never went away in the USA.
So you're just like totally ok you were forced into slavery?
I'm leaning towards just playing video games/tiktok.
This kid will learn . They all learn when they have to .
A bit of survivorship bias in that comment.
It’s nice to hear some parents still parent.
An alternative to denver and housing covered could be a gig on a cruiseship. Sometimes a change of scenery helps conquer the rut/break up the patterns that hinder success and moving toward the life one wants to live.
He sounds like a pothead in Colorado that hates corporate.
Sounds more like a video game addict to me.
@@frankvonfrauner this conversation, he showed clear signs of ADHD. Do you know what that is like to get distracted by any little thing. I have lived with it my entire life. A fucking butterfly on a wall has distracted me for an hour. OK it doesn't have to be pot or gaming or anything mainstream. I remember sitting and watching a waterfall for 12 hours one time have you ever done that? Probably not. People like him have slower minds. It's absurd They're expected to keep up at the same pace as others. It's literally a disability but it's not classified as one because it's hard to tell who has it and who doesn't.
Honestly, decades ago potheads went to college too, and they didn't have the high costs of today. It was easy for them. Today, there is no forgiveness if you make mistakes. What a horrible society.
ADHD is a learning disability, because it actually messes with your attention span. However, this is basically guy asking what job to get to survive because he doesn't know how to actually function in real world. Not surprising, unfortunately this is common place in wealthy countries.
With grade inflation being what it is, professors are almost barred from giving a final grade less than a C unless the student just plain ghosts the class. You have to be lazy af or utterly witless to flunk out of college - or just drunk and partying nonstop. This guy is an idiot. He didn't do his homework and fluffed off the class. There is a shit ton of help available on campus if you're having trouble.
Right? I went back to college 2009 to 2011 and even back then it was "D- goodbye" for kids who were supposed to get an F.
That's not in all schools! I'm going to assume that's only in woke colleges!
You got that right! Even if grades weren't inflated, at most colleges you have too many study groups,too many faculty wanting to help for anyone to flunk out. This stupid boy probably spent his study time drinking drugging,etc al instead of seeing succeeding in school as his FIRST JOB, NOT BEER PONG.
I don’t know what kind of third rate university you went to but plenty of people flunk in the UCs. you also need a C or more for it to count. There was grade inflation in the lockdown covid years but that’s it.
@@ganymedehedgehog371 No, many colleges really don't fail kids.
Good on Dave for calling him out. Kids these days use every excuse to justify not studying and being stupid
I blame teachers and parents they’re the adults in their lives
Bullshit
School is not for everyone
@@HOLDXSTEEL oh no, we can't blame the boomers for shit
I generally do not support parents kicking out children but this one on point, parents did their part. Now the son should learn his lesson hard way. This is how it should be done.
Welcome to adulthood!
Learn a trade Or go into healthcare.
You relate to this boy since his mom is rejecting him and your mom rejected you.
@GAFB1122 Go walk your dogs. You project your disappointment in not having kids onto me. I'm actually sorry you couldn't have kids or didn't have kids or what ever your situation was however I think you would have not been the greatest mother so maybe that was a blessing in disguise.
I agree with you!I guess my husband & I made things “ difficult “ enough my girls WANTED to move out .
I wish they would have let him ask his question. But yep he needs to get a job
I wish Elliot would stop beating around the bush, take responsibility for his actions, man up, and fix the mess HE created.
They tried. He gave vague answers because he still can't handle being held accountable. Time for Skippy to grow up.
@@BlessedOne_91 He never gave the reasons why he couldn't manage his time. He hemmed and hawed when asked. He said he wasn't "that kid" about the drinking and smoking. So what was he doing instead of studying? Playing video games? Hanging with friends? Goofing off? Those answers were extremely vague.
@@bat116 His parents are helping him do just that. Better late than never.
@@robedmund9948 “ADHD” is a legitimate reason for time mismanagement. I know fully grown adults who suck at managing time.
Playing video games and partying is not uncommon at his age. His parents aren’t helping him and I hope he gets out their house asap and never contacts them again.
Like I stated, the parents should be held accountable for waiting so long to take action and not getting him the proper help he needs.
It's not kicking u out if u have a year notice imo
Listen to it again. It was Christmas. Christmas is at the end of the year which is when he said he was getting kicked out. He likely had one month notice or less.
He said the end of the year.
@@jimmymcgill6778 which means it's within a month or so as it was nearly Christmas.
@@snuggleseal That's what I said.
@@jimmymcgill6778 By which he meant the end of 2024. He's already been kicked out.
2:13 - Dave Ramsey: "You're so vague...."
Carly Simon: "You probably think this song is about you...."
Idk why they send them to college. College doesn’t teach them skills and trades
College doesn't teach skills? Every engineer in the world disagrees with you.
@@BrianW211 I know a software engineer... sits on his ass eight hours a day and writes a few lines of code while binge watching Netflix from his couch... he doesn't get the "tough love" from his parents. Sure has money, but he's never had to work hard. by his own admittance. Comes natural to him.
Failed a class for “not managing time.” It takes work to fail, you have to never speak to the professor, avoid class, avoid the professor, avoid homework. Shame shame shame.
He was on UA-cam, instagram, facebook, tiktok for 8 hours a day. 🤣🤣
I can just tell by this conversation this dude has some issues. He can't keep a straight conversation. Something is going on. He needs to see a doctor but I doubt he still has coverage.
People can have learning difficulties and fail very easily.
From my experience, some professors aren’t very helpful. Some of them don’t speak proper English. You may have to teach yourself the material most of the time.
Maybe. I had a similar issue but I ended up at disabilities services and being diagnosed with OCD and depression. I took a break from school and got on a good medication regimen and went back and finished. It was good for me to stop and pay for the rest myself after I knew I could actually do it. It took 8 years but now I have a Master's, a husband, a son, a homeowner and a very comfortable life.
I was homeless as a teenager.When you have no net you can't fail.
I worked 3 jobs, and commuted at least an hour each way during college. I almost flunked out because I was far more interested in kicking it at my boyfriend’s house. I had a come-to-Jesus with an academic counselor who refocused my energy. My life depended on getting my undergraduate degree. I think this young man is about to experience a serious growth spurt!
If this young man doesnt get his ADHD treated hes going to be working paycheck to paycheck his entire life, either burning out or getting fired every year or so, he will never stop making careless mistakes and he'll never really pick up any skills because 99% of his brain power is being spent just on not being inappropriate at work, not making catastrophic oversights no one else at that job would do, constantly emotionally regulating extreme emotions, you will grind and grind and never get anywhere, especially in this economy. And you will never have friends or a girlfriend. I hope the caller reads this.
These are the kids that turn into hoarders!😢 I have an ADHD kid going through this right now!
Living independently he you grow responsible and take accountability for yourself.
You don't need to hold your parents hands. You solve your own problem.
"Do you have a learning disability?" Caught me off guard 😂
He's floating through life at this point. He hasn't had that wake up call yet
The kids' parents are showing him some tough love and forcing him to GROW UP. If you don't work, you don't eat.
Good for your parents. That "on and off" thing indicates you're not serious about college. Grow up. Live on your own. BE an adult.
Yeah I would have expected that from my parents.
I struggle with the idea of my kid being homeless if they move out and can’t manage their finances.
Then teach your kid now, how to be self sufficient.
Parents whose kids have jobs and help contribute to the household once they're old enough, you don't have to worry about.
Watch Dave and other finance experts with your kids.
Etc
I’ve followed Dave for years and taught all of my kids his principles. Some caught on and are doing great as adults, some not so much.
@@MelissainRealLife unfortunately, that's on them. I learned that my lack of action had consequences ... and I learned. I make well over six figures now.
I agree Melissa. Its cold and unloving in my opinion
Great advice from dave and george!
Everyone has an opinion on what THEY think ADHD is and they're wrong 99% of the time. Look up executive dysfunction and tell me you wouldnt want to blow your head off if you had it. But if you call it ADHD everyone just thinks you're a goof off. It's so frustrating because people who suffer from this, people who make themselves study but cant remember what they read and panic and flunk out of school despite trying harder than everyone else in the damn class, never can get their lives off the ground to begin with and on top of that every time they open their mouth to someone they get mocked and picked on and shamed. If Dave Ramsey woke up tomorrow with executive dysfunction, his entire life would evaporate and everyone close to him would turn and run.
Yeah, I don't buy it. Everyone has executive dysfunction to some extend and they use tools to manage that. Those with major executive dysfunction just need stronger or more tools. Time blindness? Use timeboxing and reminders. Getting distracted? Create an environment with as little as possible distractions. Struggling to start with boring tasks? Sit yourself down and start and get as far as you can, then do 10 burpees and start again. Struggling with impulse control? Eliminate your means by which you can fullfill your impulses.
At the end of the day, you are responsible for yourself. If you can't take responsibility for yourself, then you can't expect people to treat you as an adult with the same agency as other adults.
School is the worst but the right parenting can turn any class clown into valedictorian. This kid needed help in college
No, he needed to get motivated to study instead of screwing around, his parents ARE helping him by teaching him a valuable lesson!! WORK SUCKS, but as an adult that's what you have to do if you want 3 hots and a cot of your own!
@ parents should make sure their kids are motivated in whatever they’re doing, or help them find another path. Why let your kid fail to this extent?
Keep your head up brother get on your knees and pray to God and then get on your feet and get to work I believe in you
For unmotivated people, it's better to work and take a few classes. At first, they may get fired from a few jobs and fail a few classes, but they will eventually grow in both.
I'm glad I only have 13 classes left and should be graduating college this year. 🙏🏼
I have the same rule for my son. He has known it his whole life. I left home at 18, tried to do college and take care of myself. Work out great for two years, got cancer, my parents cared for me for about two years, and I moved back out when I was healthy. They were there for me, 100%, but expected and supported becoming an adult and being independent.
You're not going to even let him go to college if he's smart? That's just bad parenting.
Kid's trying REAL hard not to say "I played video games a lot"
That’s what I thought. Videos games and/or TV.
Maybe or maybe not, but definitely living off daddy’s and mommy’s money kept him “unmotivated."
In the timeless words of the Beverly Hills Brat, "I don't want a job! It's so much work!"
Hopefully he us willing to put in the sacrifice to start his own thing. If you hate corporate, get out, but make a plan.
M dad kicked me out the house in 2002 because he caught me smoking weed in the house. I was 22 and it did me a lot of good. Finished college and ended up working for the state of California. Good times
Some people just want validation for their choices, but when they call the Dave Ramsey show they're never going to get that
Actually ADHD would keep him from passing. Caller is describe it well. This caller is going to flunk life if an adult doesnt walk with him. Seems like his parents one strategy was tough love when the caller needed things put in chunks - with tough love for one thing at a time.
I live in denver, he can easily get a roommate and an apartment. There are apartments for $1500 per month, and rooms to rent for $500 per month. It's not that expensive. He just wants a pitty party.
$1500 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment is ridiculous.
@@Calibrownsfan LOL, not really, that is the going rate even for the non city areas!!
Something tells me this ultimatum didn’t come out of nowhere. I have a feeling he has a history of not finishing things or failing at things and just expected mommy and daddy to bail him out. This time they said Nope
This will help him get his act together. It is called grow up.
"time management" he can't get to school on time, he can't get his homework done
This kid is describing classic ADHD. He needs to be on medication so he can focus on math. It will make so much difference. Also, both areas north and south of Denver are just as expensive. My grandson ended up living in his car until he was medicated. He is now back in school. It's not a matter of tough love.
There ya go. Some understanding.
That motivation will kick in real quick when youre out on your butt. Parents spent all that money on school and he didnt appreciate it. Its time to get uncomfortable Elliott.
Maybe Elliott will remember that when he chooses his parents' nursing home.
He needs to figure it out. And stay away from debt!
Paying your own way as a grown up equals motivation. Simple
My daughter has adhd and she was flunking tests bc her time management skills were very bad and she did the homework but would lose it all the time. Teachers told me to try “tough love” and she ended up flunking and being put into special education classes. What she needed was more time to finish her tests and help with learning how to study and keep organized and with special accommodations she went to college and just graduated. The road was NOT EASY and there were many times we did not know who to listen to. Motivation and viewing the future are just not there for some of these kids. I believe that if we would have listened to her teachers she definitely never would have gone to college. She is now working full time in a job that keeps her interested and wanting to learn more. Sometimes traditional college does not work for people with learning difficulties like these and a trade school is an option. I wish him well bc I know that for many years my daughter thought of herself as “not good enough “but I knew better. It’s funny now when she runs into her old teachers and she tells them that she graduated early (in 3 years) and is working. They are always so surprised .
That's great, but it obviously wasn't this kid's problem. He made it through high school and his first year of college just fine. He obviously was just playing games and/or hanging out with friends instead of doing the work.
ADHD is a learning disability.