I was waiting for this video. Been trying to build this team, but I couldn't find a decent enough guide to follow, so thank you bagel for making this series
I finished building my dot team yesterday and It worked pretty well (0:55~1:30) Sath (6*)- Double Will/energy (80% accuracy) Tatu (6*)- Double Will/shield (40% accuracy) Mellia (5*)- violent/Focus (80% accuracy) Mellia (5*)- triple fight (I was trying to use lushen but It didn't work) (60% accuracy) Water Homunculus (6*)- despair/broken (65% accuracy) Turn order: homunc, 2x mellia's, sath, tatu
i needed this sooooo much as a returning player from 2 years ago when b10s was it. this is literally what i needed to get started on getting these dotters working for me thanks as always great vid bagel keep it up man!!!
time stamp 25 min in = Mind Blown. been watching your videos for a while and i must say i dont follow a lot of people on youtube but this video has tipped the scales for you. thank you for all that you do and you have my support
If u r just shy of oneshotting the waves with ur lushen try some artifacts with increased damage dealt to water on him. The Crystals r probably not ur problem and like 10% more dmg on the golems might get u there.
Some helpful info: You dont need a lushen to clear the waves if you are just looking for something consistent to start out. You can use Sig with his HP lead also if you aren't going for speed but for safety but if you do double will shield is a must
love you so much man, i built that team yesterday and wiped a few times. Then you pop up with that video u just have the energy to feel what people need i guess
People who try to build the team: Dont underestimate the difference in exp you get between b4 and b5 in the dimensional hole. B5 takes 111 runs, b4 takes 142! The 31 energy takes 2 1/2 days to refill and not just 1 like Jewbagel said, 5 if you have to do both Tatu and Sath on b4. That being said, dont be discouraged if you can only do b4. A 100% b4 team is 100 times better than an unstable b5 Team, so dont force it if you dont have the runes for it. We farm runes every day, farming a bit slower for 5 more days more wont break you. :D
The 180 spd is, what mellia should have with rune so base + rune = 180... Just a little thing to make it better :) Love your Videos, keep the great work up
Thank you for this video. I've been looking to build this team for a good while now but can't find any comprehensive guides on stats and runes for these units :)
Swapping lushen to way more cdmg at expense of attack is probably going to make him kill the wave, cuz you're getting so much atk from the fight runes but it's not getting amped by the cdmg as much as it would otherwise. If it was rage instead of fatal, where normally it wouldn't matter that much, I think in this case it probably makes the difference.
yo for those of you that cant have the bagel rune this is the budget guide that i use, you can just put lushen the last one to move, turn order is Sath, melia a, melia b, tatu so lushen just for clear the rest that miss the dot and make sure someone have Shield rune just in case the crystal hit you or boss revenge, then sath(faster than melia) melia(+104 both) can just use Anyrune(vio will make it more reliable + fully skill up melia skill 2) with slot 2 speed, slot 4 HP% and slot 6 acc is fine too, for tatu(+80 or lower is fine) she must use vio since she have gonna use skill 3 100% when available, for lushen 20-30 speed work fine as long the damage of amp at least 3-5k , not really need fight rune or will, even the tower no tower is fine, i mean this is farm team and you dont want use the best rune for them right, 90% sucess rate for me, 38 sec best time with average 1 minute ish
the reason sath go first is because kf mellia atrack target with dot she gonna put 2 dot, and for each enemy you only need 5 dot, so 1 from sath, 2 feom melia a, 2 from melia b, tatu boom, some still alive ? lushen finish up
@Bagel this may help some. My BG12 team has over 99% reliability (over 1200 runs logged). My lushen does NOT 1-shot waves and NOTHING on vio. Tatu (5* only!). Sath on rev, both mellia on shield. Turn order (with speeds in brackets) 1.Sath (+104) 100% acc. Will Will Revenge 2.Mellia 1 (+86) Will Will Shield 3.Mellia 2 (+79) Will Will Shield 4.Tatu (+39) Will Will Fight 5.Lushen (+39) 2179 Att, 185 CD, Fatal Blade Everything but lushen has high HP (+24 k on sath as he must survive if boss gets a turn). Hope this helps someone!
I hate b4 of pixie, my astar wouldn't die and neither would Shannon bc the crystal would heal before she killed anything but I have her on vamp so she just keeps regening
i thought that I am not capable of making a fire team for the water pixie dungeon, but now if bagel says its ok it means i'm not as bad at this game as i thought :D
I mean, if you can't build it just do a lower level. Work with what you have and don't stress about things you can't do because if you can't build a fire b5 team with what you have now you won't be able to change that in the very near future anyways, I guess. Since the energy is capped it is no use to wait, at least if you can't do b5 before your dimension energy is maxed.
I must be missing something about his recommendation for the Grim reaper lvl 5 team. He kept saying to use a Velajuel Spectra team. But both are Support units. How can they be used together?
If anyone is currently building this. Those speeds in the chart are "exact". If your Lushen for instance is too fast, it WILL mess with the tick order and Tatu will move before Mellia gets another turn
First, the difference between doing them on B4 vs B5 is 3 or 4 days of dimensional hole energy. Second, I was a little crazy and did Tatu on B5. Used Vela Perna Khmun. Slow as hell but never failed.
Thst's what I was gonna say, they are speedtuned in a way that all of them have the same spd with a maxed tower, so tatu needs to be on last slot in the team to attack last. Only thing i don't understand is why +180spd on the 2nd mellia
My son and I were just talking about these teams a few days ago. Unfortunately I only have one Mellia. Also, could I get a copy of this spreedsheet? Thanks!
You probably already plan on doing this but I would like to see a dragon's meta teams . I'm looking for some faster team suggestions that don't include tricaru
So I don't have my lushen built and have been running fran as my leader for heals and immunity. the spd helps also. I clear b12 just fine maybe you can use her in this comp too
Would you be down to take a look at my setup and show me where I am supposed to be at? I have gotten rid of some major players randomly and played off and on for multiple years, but I cant beat Giants b12 or some of the other major progression sections.
Does rushing a sath mellia tatu db team work with the new free runes, currently attempting to skip the traditional starter gb team and go straight to dot
While trying to 2a the water pixie I auto'ed b5. It was 100% successful. Each run was about 9 minutes. A total run time for 10-run was 89:42.24. I did this all the way to 100% AXP.
@@Nerzaii Like I may be able to hit the 177 requirement, but it's gonna be a lot more of a pain and require reruning like half my units after I strip everyone. But I'll see what I can find related to the "two slower Mellias" and see if that's more reasonable for me. Also seeing if I can even pull off a one shot Lushen.
quick question if my lushen outspeeds the sath and my tatu is 43 additional speed but my sath is 69 speed do i need the +194 speed mellia based on 43 tatu or +199 mellia based on the +69 sath?
they are the exact same speed so changing the order will change the turn order as it moves left to right and top to bottom if the mons have the same speed.
Hi!! I just started 2 days ago and my main team right now is magical knight 6 stars, shanon 4 stars, 9 tail fox 4 stars, martial cat 4 stars, and vampire 4 stars. Any tips on how I can progress faster/easier judging from the units that i have.
So instead of a super fast Mellia to get the proper amount of dots for the one shot on the boss couldn't you run a Pang instead and have her just faster then tatu?
is there a problem if lushen is the fastest in the team? (mine can clear waves ) or 1 mellia should be faster to force the AI of lushen to use 3rd skill?
I've been using the fire pixie since it's been 2A'd and since the grim reaper had been 2A'd the team just got better. I need to speed tune them though.
Would be amazing if you can do some Vids on how to get Gold1/2 in Arena - Teams/minimum Stats requirements etc. / i know ist complicated caus a meta PVP team just works if you hit the stats - on Arena its more shifting right
I think if you give the fast Melia artifacts that give attack and upgraded her rune 1 she will do enough damage for lushen to one shot wave 1 at least until you upgrade the tower
Can Lushen have like 180 speed or more, when Mellia #1 has 278, Melia #2 has 155, Sath has 159 and Tatu has 152 speed? without towers. Or would it screw something?
I was waiting for this video. Been trying to build this team, but I couldn't find a decent enough guide to follow, so thank you bagel for making this series
Same. Just got back into summoners war and great timing at that cause these videos are helping
Actually one of your best series on youtube is so helpful i improve 23 sec average in every run, from 1:05 to 42 sec average
Crazy, Was literally building this team up as this was released. Great timing bagel
And? ._. he is better than yiu
It's step-by-step guide, not for you man)
Same
@@dylanaustin1 its step by step you noob
@@Talking_Bugatti homie that’s why it helped me
I finished building my dot team yesterday and It worked pretty well (0:55~1:30)
Sath (6*)- Double Will/energy (80% accuracy)
Tatu (6*)- Double Will/shield (40% accuracy)
Mellia (5*)- violent/Focus (80% accuracy)
Mellia (5*)- triple fight (I was trying to use lushen but It didn't work) (60% accuracy)
Water Homunculus (6*)- despair/broken (65% accuracy)
Turn order: homunc, 2x mellia's, sath, tatu
Does it work for all dungeons?
i needed this sooooo much as a returning player from 2 years ago when b10s was it. this is literally what i needed to get started on getting these dotters working for me thanks as always great vid bagel keep it up man!!!
time stamp 25 min in = Mind Blown. been watching your videos for a while and i must say i dont follow a lot of people on youtube but this video has tipped the scales for you. thank you for all that you do and you have my support
I almost choked up when I saw his Mellia having more SPD than my fastest unit lmfao
Yep, me too. My fastest orion is only +169
This is relatable and it hurts.
@@red_dll Tbh I cant farm GB12 bcs of how inconsistent my melia team is thats why I lack of swift runes
Kinda funny back in the days i had a gb10 team but no db10 team but now with tricaru I end up having a db12 team but no gb12 Haha
@@FiestaPotato Same. Easy Tricaru for DB12, NB12 and PC10 but my GB12 is inconsistent (Lushen, Fran, Loren, Laika, Kro).
If u r just shy of oneshotting the waves with ur lushen try some artifacts with increased damage dealt to water on him. The Crystals r probably not ur problem and like 10% more dmg on the golems might get u there.
This here. Damage on element is much more impactful towards increasing damage with other useful stats in artifacts
I love this series of Meta Teams ! I did the meta team of Astar/Tricaru because of you and it works pretty good.
Some helpful info: You dont need a lushen to clear the waves if you are just looking for something consistent to start out. You can use Sig with his HP lead also if you aren't going for speed but for safety but if you do double will shield is a must
Title says “the best team” not “something to use if you don’t have the best team”
Vero is best if you can't Lushen
love you so much man, i built that team yesterday and wiped a few times. Then you pop up with that video u just have the energy to feel what people need i guess
Love this series, thank you for all the work you put into this, much appreciated.
Need some of these teams it's just time to build the units. Thanks
People who try to build the team:
Dont underestimate the difference in exp you get between b4 and b5 in the dimensional hole. B5 takes 111 runs, b4 takes 142! The 31 energy takes 2 1/2 days to refill and not just 1 like Jewbagel said, 5 if you have to do both Tatu and Sath on b4. That being said, dont be discouraged if you can only do b4. A 100% b4 team is 100 times better than an unstable b5 Team, so dont force it if you dont have the runes for it. We farm runes every day, farming a bit slower for 5 more days more wont break you. :D
The 180 spd is, what mellia should have with rune so base + rune = 180... Just a little thing to make it better :) Love your Videos, keep the great work up
no 180 additional so 284 total speed
Thanks for the vid I managed to finish building the team right now and the rune info was amazing
Thanks for the advice on the B5 pixie dungeon! Doing B4 for Tatu was waaay easier.
Thank you for this video. I've been looking to build this team for a good while now but can't find any comprehensive guides on stats and runes for these units :)
Thank you Bagel, really needed this video!
Swapping lushen to way more cdmg at expense of attack is probably going to make him kill the wave, cuz you're getting so much atk from the fight runes but it's not getting amped by the cdmg as much as it would otherwise. If it was rage instead of fatal, where normally it wouldn't matter that much, I think in this case it probably makes the difference.
Was gonna try this but nowhere near getting a 180 spd mellia so RIP the dream
Awesome thank you. Getting ready to build my GB team.
yo for those of you that cant have the bagel rune this is the budget guide that i use, you can just put lushen the last one to move, turn order is Sath, melia a, melia b, tatu so lushen just for clear the rest that miss the dot and make sure someone have Shield rune just in case the crystal hit you or boss revenge, then sath(faster than melia) melia(+104 both) can just use Anyrune(vio will make it more reliable + fully skill up melia skill 2) with slot 2 speed, slot 4 HP% and slot 6 acc is fine too, for tatu(+80 or lower is fine) she must use vio since she have gonna use skill 3 100% when available, for lushen 20-30 speed work fine as long the damage of amp at least 3-5k , not really need fight rune or will, even the tower no tower is fine, i mean this is farm team and you dont want use the best rune for them right, 90% sucess rate for me, 38 sec best time with average 1 minute ish
the reason sath go first is because kf mellia atrack target with dot she gonna put 2 dot, and for each enemy you only need 5 dot, so 1 from sath, 2 feom melia a, 2 from melia b, tatu boom, some still alive ? lushen finish up
thank you for the tips
@Bagel this may help some. My BG12 team has over 99% reliability (over 1200 runs logged). My lushen does NOT 1-shot waves and NOTHING on vio. Tatu (5* only!). Sath on rev, both mellia on shield. Turn order (with speeds in brackets)
1.Sath (+104) 100% acc. Will Will Revenge
2.Mellia 1 (+86) Will Will Shield
3.Mellia 2 (+79) Will Will Shield
4.Tatu (+39) Will Will Fight
5.Lushen (+39) 2179 Att, 185 CD, Fatal Blade
Everything but lushen has high HP (+24 k on sath as he must survive if boss gets a turn).
Hope this helps someone!
For anyone wondering, Aster Verdehile and Raoq is also super good for fire pixie on b4 of awakening dungeon
I hate b4 of pixie, my astar wouldn't die and neither would Shannon bc the crystal would heal before she killed anything but I have her on vamp so she just keeps regening
GREEEAT CONTENT you really show how to build the team from sratch good content for player wanting to make team congrats
2a Shaman is great to speed up the lvl5 2a reaper dungeon.
He is defense class with insane dmg potential against dark type units.
I was building this team, thanks bagel :)
i thought that I am not capable of making a fire team for the water pixie dungeon, but now if bagel says its ok it means i'm not as bad at this game as i thought :D
I mean, if you can't build it just do a lower level. Work with what you have and don't stress about things you can't do because if you can't build a fire b5 team with what you have now you won't be able to change that in the very near future anyways, I guess. Since the energy is capped it is no use to wait, at least if you can't do b5 before your dimension energy is maxed.
I must be missing something about his recommendation for the Grim reaper lvl 5 team. He kept saying to use a Velajuel Spectra team. But both are Support units. How can they be used together?
That was my same response when i heard the recommendation? I went to check it out because i never tried that team before and figures why i hadn’t.
it was spectra or velajuel from my understanding
If anyone is currently building this. Those speeds in the chart are "exact". If your Lushen for instance is too fast, it WILL mess with the tick order and Tatu will move before Mellia gets another turn
Finally new meta team episode XD
First, the difference between doing them on B4 vs B5 is 3 or 4 days of dimensional hole energy. Second, I was a little crazy and did Tatu on B5. Used Vela Perna Khmun. Slow as hell but never failed.
Thank you Bagel
Was thinking Tatu isn't too fast, it's her position in team.
Thst's what I was gonna say, they are speedtuned in a way that all of them have the same spd with a maxed tower, so tatu needs to be on last slot in the team to attack last. Only thing i don't understand is why +180spd on the 2nd mellia
@@xrandomturtle5440 I am pretty sure so you can get an Additional turn before tato goes
@@xrandomturtle5440 180+ so she can attac two times before the enemy
Vela and bellows are both good here mmm great just pulled them both 3 days ago solid
Just finished building mine. Got the last piece during this 7a event. mine does fail some but it’s because of my lack of defense for the trash waves.
would water homie work instead of 2nd mellia cuz the 7y scrolls did me dirty
theres scam stone rottion with melias in 3 weeks
Nice, I am going to give it a try !!!!
Hey Jew daddy, I’m a returning player and there vids help a lot with getting back into things
can you use thrain instead of a second melia?
ff
i am also planning to use a 2a thrain as second melia
My son and I were just talking about these teams a few days ago. Unfortunately I only have one Mellia. Also, could I get a copy of this spreedsheet? Thanks!
I have my team runed so differently. My fastest team is 34 sec so it works fine. But nice and clear video.
You probably already plan on doing this but I would like to see a dragon's meta teams . I'm looking for some faster team suggestions that don't include tricaru
Gb12 under a minute with low rune reqiurement is crazy :O
"low"
Total agree on tatu tip i did the same thing
It's helpful. Thank you so much.
Looooool I was watching this and was thinking you had the team set up wrong it goes left to right
Here comes the BOOM!
is this still a viable team? getting back into the game and need to farm some runes
Is this a good swift slot 4 cd rune? 11 speed, 15% hp, 20%atk and flat defense which will change to either crit chance or def % for Bruiser Lagmaron
I think it is alrightif you can still grind it. Spd is a little low for my taste but it is usable for sure.
@@red_dll yeah I tried rolling for 2 speed but wasted like 20 coins and still couldn't get 2 speed rolls
Me wondering why bagel is still putting tatu in the second spot when she the same speed as sath
Best series ever.
So I don't have my lushen built and have been running fran as my leader for heals and immunity. the spd helps also. I clear b12 just fine maybe you can use her in this comp too
Hemos: (*poisons the targets*)
Tatu: IGNITE *BOOM*
She... turned poison into a combustible (like gasoline) then blew it all up? What?
Shamann works well as the defence unit for the Grim 2A if you have one.
Would you be down to take a look at my setup and show me where I am supposed to be at? I have gotten rid of some major players randomly and played off and on for multiple years, but I cant beat Giants b12 or some of the other major progression sections.
DID YOU MAKE A VID FOR THE BLACKSMITH EVENT ??
Love this series
Can you take a dive into some AD's too? Maybe not super important, but there's not a lot of content out there for making solid ADs.
Would it matter if they're all faster than that but still the order of speed turns for everyone?
Where can I find that list of mons that you were looking at of tikis meta teams?
Does rushing a sath mellia tatu db team work with the new free runes, currently attempting to skip the traditional starter gb team and go straight to dot
While trying to 2a the water pixie I auto'ed b5. It was 100% successful. Each run was about 9 minutes. A total run time for 10-run was 89:42.24. I did this all the way to 100% AXP.
I'm was super excited for this, until I realized that there is at least a +177 spd Mellia requirement...
there is a team with both mellias moving after sath and before tatu just follow that one and youre good
@@Nerzaii Like I may be able to hit the 177 requirement, but it's gonna be a lot more of a pain and require reruning like half my units after I strip everyone. But I'll see what I can find related to the "two slower Mellias" and see if that's more reasonable for me. Also seeing if I can even pull off a one shot Lushen.
@@bighead074 look up aced it gaming “dot team gb12 for midgamers” it has a weak lushen and 2 slow mellias that might work for you
Bagel is 3 team 1 dungeon will work if you have good runes?
this is crazy man~ nice~~
quick question if my lushen outspeeds the sath and my tatu is 43 additional speed but my sath is 69 speed do i need the +194 speed mellia based on 43 tatu or +199 mellia based on the +69 sath?
Why does the speed change when you change the order?! :OO
they are the exact same speed so changing the order will change the turn order as it moves left to right and top to bottom if the mons have the same speed.
@@Xblade4156 thanks for explaining :)
Hi!! I just started 2 days ago and my main team right now is magical knight 6 stars, shanon 4 stars, 9 tail fox 4 stars, martial cat 4 stars, and vampire 4 stars. Any tips on how I can progress faster/easier judging from the units that i have.
Just quit
Are there any decent subs for a second Mellia? Or should I just not build this team without two?
you can use pang if you dont have 2 mellia, but runes will be way different
So instead of a super fast Mellia to get the proper amount of dots for the one shot on the boss couldn't you run a Pang instead and have her just faster then tatu?
Fire twins with raq and pixie is what I used and it works like a charm
I always die when Lushen doesn’t amp 3rd stage is there a solution?
I tried making this, after 5 years of farming everyday, and using the best runes I have, I couldn't even come close to +180 speed. My best was +133.
same here XD +131 melia is sad
pro trick: watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching a lot of movies recently.
@Alijah Franklin Yup, I have been watching on flixzone for since november myself =)
That's pretty sad guys.
Like with the event where u craft runes u can't have more, kinda sad xD
is there a problem if lushen is the fastest in the team? (mine can clear waves ) or 1 mellia should be faster to force the AI of lushen to use 3rd skill?
Question why do we need high acc if the gb12 acc cap is 54% isn't that just wasted stats ?
I've been using the fire pixie since it's been 2A'd and since the grim reaper had been 2A'd the team just got better. I need to speed tune them though.
Is there a dot team without double mellia cause I don’t have one. Also is lushen changeable cause I made a pact to never use
@8:33 ahahaha amazing
Would be amazing if you can do some Vids on how to get Gold1/2 in Arena - Teams/minimum Stats requirements etc. / i know ist complicated caus a meta PVP team just works if you hit the stats - on Arena its more shifting right
That moment when +2230 atk +230 crit damage rage lushen doesn't one shot the wave with literally 8 fight sets. Time to do arena - _-
I think if you give the fast Melia artifacts that give attack and upgraded her rune 1 she will do enough damage for lushen to one shot wave 1 at least until you upgrade the tower
Can Lushen have like 180 speed or more, when Mellia #1 has 278, Melia #2 has 155, Sath has 159 and Tatu has 152 speed? without towers. Or would it screw something?
hello, will you make a video where you show runes and all monsters of howtoplay rank 1 2021? he got more ld nat5
is the giants mellia spd team also possible with only one mellia?
If you can include Labyrinth Hell meta teams as well that would be awesome :)) Thanks
Wait, does Mellia A need that much speed??? None of my regular units have that much speed (90 at most)!
With the new DH dungeon, we cant really complain too much on the wacky monster types anymore. Sneaky sneaky.
U should do the dimensional hole dungeon too man.
Does one Mellia and Pang work equally as well?
Will the Sath build work for Thrain?
clear giants keep b12 in auto mode without any friends help. Does this mission mean soloing giants B12 with one monster? Please let me know.
you cant actually use spectra and velajuel because they are both support types.
Do the Mellias have to be 5 star or can we do 6 star?
is there another unit you can change the 2nd Mellia with? I fed all my Mellias for skill ups for the first D: help haha
Humunculos
Followed the chart and my Mellia laps Tatu in the mid boss but she doesn't in the boss stage lol. (Tatu is 41 and Mellia 177, I have max tower)
Gona do a meta team for dragon?
Does sath built like this still works for sf10 and and toah?
What can you do if you don't have a lushen?