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Hey Tim. I enjoyed your Nolan Williams interview and this one too. You do seem very relaxed. I’m doing the normal 36 sessions TMS and I finished my 13th today. I’ve struggled with severe anxiety, depression, and strangely a claustrophobia to clothing that fits me(I should wear a medium shirt but I wear a 2XL instead). My nervous system tags the clothing as a threat I am guessing. Have you heard of any anxiety disorders that include something like this?
I appreciate Tim’s measured attitude toward something that seems like it REALLY improved his life (or at least minimized the symptoms that he was experiencing). Thank you for sharing your experience and information.
Give it some time and see if he's the same. The "amazing" stats are misleading because people report good results in the short-term, but in the long-term many people actually end up WORSE than when they started. It can also be dangerous from the start. My wife went to a mainstream TMS clinic and suffered permanent brain damage from it after the 1st treatment. We've spent over a year just trying to help her recover. IMHO, not worth it at all.
I have had two courses 2 years apart and my life is completely changed. My son had it for OCD and it saved his life. You can slide into remission but over time you will figure out how often or if a huge life trigger happens like a death.... you may need to go in for as few as one tx or another round. Some have such regular slips they simply go in 2x a month, etc. ❤
I have had TMS treatment and although it was helpful, the positive effects were short lived. My insurance covered treatment. I am going back for booster therapy next week. Thank you Tim for your research and wisdom.
Our own dysfunctions are what is sometimes responsible for our success. To others we look ‘exceptional’. However, typically at the expense of ‘normal’ behaviours. I think this might be what Tim is finding out, but like others, knew on some level all along. The very definition of a double edged sword.
Great interview but correction.... there is no magnet in TMS treatments.... the most advanced is BrainsWay deep TMS and the older technology (~40 years ago invented) convert varying electricity into a magnetic field that can activate neurons at different rates. It is customized to the patient. The treatment of Brainsway is 5 sessions a week (up to 20 min each) for 4 weeks followed by 2/week for up to 8 weeks. It is non invasive and it increases plasticity of the brain (Increases BDNF production) which does wonders. It was proven to be 538% better than antidepressants in a European study publishe in Feb 2019 by Dr Filipcic in Journal of psychiatric research.
Thank you for saying psychedelic therapy isn’t for everybody- So many podcasters are not talking about contraindications. Unfortunately, I had horrible experiences with it.
Im 100% sure you can at least somewhat integrate what you experienced and grow from it in one or another way, even if it takes years to understand all the connections
@@gryphonschnitzel7140 no one is 100% sure of anything, specially in science. Please respect others people experiences, there are known bad side effects from psychedelics, including long lasting hallucinations, psychosis etc. Sometimes, bad trips are just that, bad experiences, and there's nothing to integrate, psychedelics are not a panacea and like all medicine can have side effects.
@@gryphonschnitzel7140 ofc, it's dependent but this person was telling it was a bad experience, so we should respect it. I know you meant well, but this is "fake positivity" which is trying to find meaning/good things on just bad experiences, sometimes things just suck and that's okay, it's part of life, but we shouldn't try to always seek meaning/value from bad events, instead we should just process it and move on
Have a therapist sit with you. And integrate after. Also, frame of mind before, during, and after, meds (all antidepressants stop or it's too much serotonin) you were on, etc. I've virtually seen a provider in CO and will have a session in a month or so.
I did TMS in a psychiatrist's office. I told the doctor that I'd had a concussion two years before. The doctor thought that was safe for me because the test would tell them what my brain would tolerate. When he increased the intensity and turned on the machine, I had a seizure. My arms and fingers spasmed, and I yelled for them to stop. They turned off the machine, but the damage had already happened. After the first week, it was clear that it was helping my life-long depression, but at the same time, my sense was it was taking my body beyond what was safe for my body. The psychiatrist said the protocol was to increase the intensity and it was ok. But I sensed that it might be dangerous for me with my previous brain concussions because of the few danger signals from my body. There was damage to the nerves in my right leg. One year later, my nerve and muscle damage has not improved from that seizure. I'd never had a seizure before or since. It could be a massive trade-off. Regardless of what doctors say, be mindful of your own body awareness.
Interesting! I`m from Holland and going to participate in a 5 week long therapy group to research how people with OCD will react to TMS combined with Exposure Therapy. As I am diagnosed with OCD but haven`t recovered yet i`m curious and exiting about this new way of treating people with anxiety/OCD. It`s already being covered by the health insurance for treatment resistant depression but not yet for OCD. This video gives me motivation!
8:30 the actual answer is go to Magnus medical , currently there are currently 4 clinics that have it and will have much more in the coming months this year , they use the SAINT protocol which means they will do an fMRI first The other clinics use accelerated TMS which is unguided TMS , it's not a problem but less accurate than the guided one A good middle ground is prTMS or MeRT which is cheaper and use EEG to have better outcomes Another point is you can't buy TMS online like they said , what they are talking about is TDCS this is completely different and not dangerous
@@JamieCharlebois sorry I didn't notice your response Toronto Edmonton and Vancouver have qEEG guided TMS , it's not accelerated but it's much more accurate and safer Google MeRT TMS and you find their website
@@JamieCharlebois sorry for the late reply MeRT is qEEG guided but it's not accelerated as far as I know , it's safer and more precise compared to your standard TMS , It's available in Canada , go to Google and search for " TMS MeRT "
I recommend checking out the customized version of TMS it's called MeRT , it's available in Australia, they basically use an EEG to better guide the TMS for better outcomes
Yes it works well for me, The only thing I get to be honest is that since the percentages have gone up on the machine on day 2 or 3 of treatment I do get a bit of an big burst of anxiety that lasts maybe like 10-20mins then in great for weeks sometimes months. @@ThePassion81
NO! Do not do this, please! TMS is very risky and dangerous. My wife suffered permanent brain damage from it, and the stats are rigged. Far more people are being hurt than is being advertised.
@johndawson6057 I finished the therapy. I can't tell if it worked that well. I don't see any benefits just yet. A lot of my issues are muscular due to the neck protecting itself. Hopefully, it is just taking its time.
TMS IS DANGEROUS AND RISKY. Last year, my wife had 3 treatments and we stopped because she suffered 9/10 PERMANENT brain pain from it. Recovering from it has consumed our life. TMS just isn't well-understood by the "experts". It doesn't work in a lot of people, and many people who say they are "better" actually end up with WORSE long-term problems. Is it worth the risk for you? If I could go back in time, I'd NEVER let my wife walk into that clinic.
Every treatment has potential side effects. Psychoactive medications as well. I'm sorry that your wife was one of the unlucky few. But that doesn't make the treatment less valuable for millions of people
TMS IS DANGEROUS AND RISKY. Last year, my wife had 3 treatments and we stopped because she suffered 9/10 PERMANENT brain pain from it. Recovering from it has consumed our life. TMS just isn't well-understood by the "experts". It doesn't work in a lot of people, and many people who say they are "better" actually end up with WORSE long-term problems. Is it worth the risk for you? If I could go back in time, I'd NEVER let my wife walk into that clinic.
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Hey Tim. I enjoyed your Nolan Williams interview and this one too. You do seem very relaxed. I’m doing the normal 36 sessions TMS and I finished my 13th today. I’ve struggled with severe anxiety, depression, and strangely a claustrophobia to clothing that fits me(I should wear a medium shirt but I wear a 2XL instead). My nervous system tags the clothing as a threat I am guessing. Have you heard of any anxiety disorders that include something like this?
I appreciate Tim’s measured attitude toward something that seems like it REALLY improved his life (or at least minimized the symptoms that he was experiencing). Thank you for sharing your experience and information.
I did 2 coursess or Neuro-navigated TMS and it cured my depression almost entirely.
How long have you suffered prior to TMS?
@@ILovePoop 25 years. 8 years of Prozac.
My friend had this and he said it changed his life for the better. He had it for PTSD. He went to a wonderful clinic in our hometown.
Give it some time and see if he's the same. The "amazing" stats are misleading because people report good results in the short-term, but in the long-term many people actually end up WORSE than when they started.
It can also be dangerous from the start. My wife went to a mainstream TMS clinic and suffered permanent brain damage from it after the 1st treatment. We've spent over a year just trying to help her recover. IMHO, not worth it at all.
I have had two courses 2 years apart and my life is completely changed. My son had it for OCD and it saved his life. You can slide into remission but over time you will figure out how often or if a huge life trigger happens like a death.... you may need to go in for as few as one tx or another round. Some have such regular slips they simply go in 2x a month, etc. ❤
@@mitchgalloway2850what kind of brain damage did she have? Trying to do research before I try this
@ I’m so sorry to hear this. Would you mind please sharing her symptoms?
I have had TMS treatment and although it was helpful, the positive effects were short lived. My insurance covered treatment. I am going back for booster therapy next week. Thank you Tim for your research and wisdom.
Booster therapy?
Our own dysfunctions are what is sometimes responsible for our success. To others we look ‘exceptional’. However, typically at the expense of ‘normal’ behaviours. I think this might be what Tim is finding out, but like others, knew on some level all along. The very definition of a double edged sword.
Congrats Tim!
Great interview but correction.... there is no magnet in TMS treatments.... the most advanced is BrainsWay deep TMS and the older technology (~40 years ago invented) convert varying electricity into a magnetic field that can activate neurons at different rates. It is customized to the patient. The treatment of Brainsway is 5 sessions a week (up to 20 min each) for 4 weeks followed by 2/week for up to 8 weeks. It is non invasive and it increases plasticity of the brain (Increases BDNF production) which does wonders. It was proven to be 538% better than antidepressants in a European study publishe in Feb 2019 by Dr Filipcic in Journal of psychiatric research.
So rad to hear!
Thank you for saying psychedelic therapy isn’t for everybody- So many podcasters are not talking about contraindications.
Unfortunately, I had horrible experiences with it.
Im 100% sure you can at least somewhat integrate what you experienced and grow from it in one or another way, even if it takes years to understand all the connections
@@gryphonschnitzel7140 no one is 100% sure of anything, specially in science. Please respect others people experiences, there are known bad side effects from psychedelics, including long lasting hallucinations, psychosis etc. Sometimes, bad trips are just that, bad experiences, and there's nothing to integrate, psychedelics are not a panacea and like all medicine can have side effects.
@@joaocosta3506 im just trying to bring out the positive in the negative, you are right, and at the same time not, just depends on the situation.
@@gryphonschnitzel7140 ofc, it's dependent but this person was telling it was a bad experience, so we should respect it. I know you meant well, but this is "fake positivity" which is trying to find meaning/good things on just bad experiences, sometimes things just suck and that's okay, it's part of life, but we shouldn't try to always seek meaning/value from bad events, instead we should just process it and move on
Have a therapist sit with you. And integrate after.
Also, frame of mind before, during, and after, meds (all antidepressants stop or it's too much serotonin) you were on, etc. I've virtually seen a provider in CO and will have a session in a month or so.
I did TMS in a psychiatrist's office. I told the doctor that I'd had a concussion two years before. The doctor thought that was safe for me because the test would tell them what my brain would tolerate. When he increased the intensity and turned on the machine, I had a seizure. My arms and fingers spasmed, and I yelled for them to stop. They turned off the machine, but the damage had already happened. After the first week, it was clear that it was helping my life-long depression, but at the same time, my sense was it was taking my body beyond what was safe for my body. The psychiatrist said the protocol was to increase the intensity and it was ok. But I sensed that it might be dangerous for me with my previous brain concussions because of the few danger signals from my body. There was damage to the nerves in my right leg. One year later, my nerve and muscle damage has not improved from that seizure. I'd never had a seizure before or since. It could be a massive trade-off. Regardless of what doctors say, be mindful of your own body awareness.
So the machine was only on for a short time?
Interesting! I`m from Holland and going to participate in a 5 week long therapy group to research how people with OCD will react to TMS combined with Exposure Therapy. As I am diagnosed with OCD but haven`t recovered yet i`m curious and exiting about this new way of treating people with anxiety/OCD. It`s already being covered by the health insurance for treatment resistant depression but not yet for OCD. This video gives me motivation!
How’s that going so far?
How’s it going I may participate in one too but trying to research
@@xihopeuwinx Hey, I`m starting next week so will let you know how it`s going !
8:30 the actual answer is go to Magnus medical , currently there are currently 4 clinics that have it and will have much more in the coming months this year , they use the SAINT protocol which means they will do an fMRI first
The other clinics use accelerated TMS which is unguided TMS , it's not a problem but less accurate than the guided one
A good middle ground is prTMS or MeRT which is cheaper and use EEG to have better outcomes
Another point is you can't buy TMS online like they said , what they are talking about is TDCS this is completely different and not dangerous
Do you happen to know if there is anywhere in Canada using the targeted TMS approach? Using an fMRI etc.
Thanks in advance
@@JamieCharlebois sorry I didn't notice your response
Toronto Edmonton and Vancouver have qEEG guided TMS , it's not accelerated but it's much more accurate and safer
Google MeRT TMS and you find their website
@@JamieCharlebois sorry for the late reply MeRT is qEEG guided but it's not accelerated as far as I know , it's safer and more precise compared to your standard TMS , It's available in Canada , go to Google and search for " TMS MeRT "
@@JamieCharlebois MeRT TMS is available in Canada , go check the internet for the website , my comment keeps getting deleted
@@JamieCharlebois my comment keeps getting deleted sorry
Please share soon where you got it done…🙏🏽
They do in Canada. It is cover
what is the difference between accelerated TMS and "regular" TMS?
“R” represents “repetitive” Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation
TMS is becoming huge in Australia, I'm about to start it myself and know many people that have done so already with great results
I recommend checking out the customized version of TMS it's called MeRT , it's available in Australia, they basically use an EEG to better guide the TMS for better outcomes
Is it working for you?
Many of the stats are rigged. Far more people are being damaged by TMS than what is reported. It is extremely dangerous and risky.
Yes it works well for me, The only thing I get to be honest is that since the percentages have gone up on the machine on day 2 or 3 of treatment I do get a bit of an big burst of anxiety that lasts maybe like 10-20mins then in great for weeks sometimes months. @@ThePassion81
Was curious about this treatment for years but opted not to in fears that it wouldn't work and it costs a lot. Makes me feel like i should've tried.
Don't worry, you probably saved yourself from a mild brain injury. TMS is dangerous and risky. My wife suffered permanent brain damage from it.
You can treat ED with TMS.
I'm going to do TMS next month for pain. Arthritis in the neck.
I hope it helps.
NO! Do not do this, please! TMS is very risky and dangerous. My wife suffered permanent brain damage from it, and the stats are rigged. Far more people are being hurt than is being advertised.
Hey buddy, any updates on your TMS therapy?
@johndawson6057 I finished the therapy. I can't tell if it worked that well.
I don't see any benefits just yet.
A lot of my issues are muscular due to the neck protecting itself.
Hopefully, it is just taking its time.
comparison to "standard" TMS as opposed to accelerated TMS?
How does this work if one has had concussions?
This has great results for Alzheimer's as well in a slightly different variation. University of Manitoba is leading the research there.
TMS IS DANGEROUS AND RISKY.
Last year, my wife had 3 treatments and we stopped because she suffered 9/10 PERMANENT brain pain from it. Recovering from it has consumed our life. TMS just isn't well-understood by the "experts". It doesn't work in a lot of people, and many people who say they are "better" actually end up with WORSE long-term problems. Is it worth the risk for you? If I could go back in time, I'd NEVER let my wife walk into that clinic.
@@mitchgalloway2850 what is brain pain)?
By that I meant she has constant pain on the upper left area of her brain (same spot where they place the TMS device).
God that’s scary idk if I wanna do it now 😞
Every treatment has potential side effects. Psychoactive medications as well. I'm sorry that your wife was one of the unlucky few. But that doesn't make the treatment less valuable for millions of people
TMS I widely available for OCD and TMS! Most insurance companies will approve it.
Only for depression.
@@sharonmcentee8615 Many insurance providers cover the OCD protocol, its just not as widely covered as the MDD protocol.
@@sharonmcentee8615insurance will cover OCD protocol-just not as common.
Curious if it would help migraine?
My opinion is it could cause migraine at this point. I am in treatement in tms
TMS IS DANGEROUS AND RISKY.
Last year, my wife had 3 treatments and we stopped because she suffered 9/10 PERMANENT brain pain from it. Recovering from it has consumed our life. TMS just isn't well-understood by the "experts". It doesn't work in a lot of people, and many people who say they are "better" actually end up with WORSE long-term problems. Is it worth the risk for you? If I could go back in time, I'd NEVER let my wife walk into that clinic.
Maintenance therapies such as antidepressants?
Yup
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Use body mics. Listening to your saliva and breath-puffs spitting on these stupid handhelds.
I was in until the foul language started. F bomb not needed.