Yeah, I'm making a SOV conlang, and for simple sentences it's pretty straightforward. Ex: the cat eats fish -> the cat fish eats. But for more complex sentences, it gets kinda nasty. Ex: before i was born, my mom played guitar with her friends -> ????? So this vid is REALLY helpful
Great work Colin, I didn't know that there was a correlation between word order and the presence of pre/postpositions. I'm currently studying Georgian in my free time which has suffixed postpositions.
wonderfully helpful vid~ i've sifted through a few word order videos trying to figure out the finer details for my VO(S) language im planning, but a lot of what i found just Listed Terms without going into detail about they're application in the actual sentence structure, which left me feeling frustrated, as i was being given Large Categories without any clarification on the things Within Said Categories (mostly with adjectives, as they never went beyond where they were derived from for some reason). so seeing you create a comprehensive list with examples for each is fantastic and much appreciated!
Do you have a video where you focus on VSO structure? I believe, if I read correctly, that some Ancient Egyptian dialects, Hawaiian, and Sinaitic Hebrew had that structure (correct me if I'm wrong). I'd love to learn a bit more about VSO so that I can use it for ancient conlangs in my world.
Good point, the statement 'it's an SVO language' needs to be more like 'it is SVO in affirmative sentences.' Then go into how other kinds of phrase are structured. This applies to most languages I would think.
Why might languages have different word-order patterns in subordinate clauses (for example German is V2 in independent clauses, but verb-final in dependent clauses)?
This is an excellent question! I can think of the rather technical explanations people have given for, say, V2 word order, but what I think would be more helpful for us is to look at the history of word order change and how these situations have arisen in particular languages, such as German. I'll make a note to cover this in an upcoming segment. Thank you!
This is a fun topic! I can think of two ways to tackle it: Do you mean an existing natural language family? Or how to create a new language as a descendant of an existing conlang?
@@georgewest7068 You could probably check out the series on Posteriori Conlangs by Shmili langs. I haven't seen it myself, but all their other videos are good so I would assume that series is too.
Yeah, I'm making a SOV conlang, and for simple sentences it's pretty straightforward.
Ex: the cat eats fish -> the cat fish eats.
But for more complex sentences, it gets kinda nasty.
Ex: before i was born, my mom played guitar with her friends -> ?????
So this vid is REALLY helpful
‘i born was before, her friends with my mum guitar played’?
I born was before, my mom with her friends guitar played
'before I was-born, my mom guitar played with her friends'
Great work Colin, I didn't know that there was a correlation between word order and the presence of pre/postpositions. I'm currently studying Georgian in my free time which has suffixed postpositions.
Thank you! And I hope you're enjoying studying Georgian - what an amazing syllable structure that language has!
The video: an easy to follow tutorial about word order
My stupid lizard brain (affectionate): "VOOV 🚗💨"
wonderfully helpful vid~ i've sifted through a few word order videos trying to figure out the finer details for my VO(S) language im planning, but a lot of what i found just Listed Terms without going into detail about they're application in the actual sentence structure, which left me feeling frustrated, as i was being given Large Categories without any clarification on the things Within Said Categories (mostly with adjectives, as they never went beyond where they were derived from for some reason). so seeing you create a comprehensive list with examples for each is fantastic and much appreciated!
Do you have a video where you focus on VSO structure? I believe, if I read correctly, that some Ancient Egyptian dialects, Hawaiian, and Sinaitic Hebrew had that structure (correct me if I'm wrong). I'd love to learn a bit more about VSO so that I can use it for ancient conlangs in my world.
Dutch is an SVO language but it uses SOV in relative clauses and VSO for yes or no questions.
Good point, the statement 'it's an SVO language' needs to be more like 'it is SVO in affirmative sentences.' Then go into how other kinds of phrase are structured. This applies to most languages I would think.
Why might languages have different word-order patterns in subordinate clauses (for example German is V2 in independent clauses, but verb-final in dependent clauses)?
This is an excellent question! I can think of the rather technical explanations people have given for, say, V2 word order, but what I think would be more helpful for us is to look at the history of word order change and how these situations have arisen in particular languages, such as German. I'll make a note to cover this in an upcoming segment. Thank you!
is the pattern regarding the demonstratives in this chart hold for all determiners?
I love this video - thank you! How does V2 word order fit into all this?
Thank you! Keep your eyes peeled for a sequel to this video where we'll go over how V2 came about, in particular in the Germanic family.
@@ColinGorrie Ooh I can't wait!
This is helpfull❤
How to do a language from an existing language family
This is a fun topic! I can think of two ways to tackle it: Do you mean an existing natural language family? Or how to create a new language as a descendant of an existing conlang?
@@ColinGorrie natural
@@georgewest7068 You could probably check out the series on Posteriori Conlangs by Shmili langs. I haven't seen it myself, but all their other videos are good so I would assume that series is too.
Eskinla za SOV taize, tu preposition edaze 😆
*Eskin (my conlang) is SOV but has prepositions*
Using SOV order in simple sentences is easy but how do you do it in complex sentences?