These 12 Speedrun World Records were DISQUALIFIED
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- Опубліковано 7 гру 2020
- Behind all inbounds speedruns, theres one rule: Don't go out of bounds. That's a pretty tough one to accidentally break, right?
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Music used (in order):
Portal Stories: Mel OST (@Harry101UK) - Acceleration
Portal Stories: Mel OST (@Harry101UK) - Testing with Nature
Portal 2 OST - Robot Waiting Room #2
Aperture Tag OST (@Harry101UK) - Reconstructing Ambience
Ducktales (NES) - The Moon Theme
Videos referenced:
4:50-5:24 - "Portal "Non Out-of-Bounds" Speedrun in 14:18"( • Portal "Non Out-of-Bou... )
Various Shizzal videos (unlisted)
Thanks to attmayMB, Shizzal, CF, and baister09 for helping with the video creation process.
This video is not an actual speedrun world record, nor a speedrun tutorial. This video is a showcase/storytelling of removed/invalidated/disqualified speedruns, explaining the speedrun strategy and various tricks, glitches and bugs that made the speedrun invalid. This video is very similar to my "How Speedrunners Skip..." videos, but with a storytelling twist. - Ігри
Shizzal: "oh no, my runs were invalid?"
"Anyway"
Indeed.
That's why i don't respect dream, this is how a speedrunner should act, guy got all of his WR speedruns invalidated, grinded and achieved the same results, dream had a 5th place invalidated and started drama
He didnt start drama but defended himself that he wasnt cheating. These are completely different situations, as in the one from the video, the guy wasnt aware of making this mistake and had no intention cheating. In the case of dream he claims he didnt cheat thus wanting to prove himself innocent, he is a very big personality thats why there is a lot of video material coverage on this topic. Anyways as you say, he still continued to play normally and it didnt affect him that much, if you werent cheating, would you just say fine when being accused of it?
The guy from the video got his runs disqualified for a good reason unlike dream
@@mioszwojtyga5100 Dream threw various accusations and has blacklisted creators like Karl Jobst for providing evidence about the scandal.
It's one thing to defend yourself, but Dream has been a bad sport about the whole situation. Shizzal was invalidated, accepted it, and continued playing. He didn't accuse the moderators of being biased. Ontop of that, Shizzal's runs were DQed on technicality, unlike the very cheaty RNG manipulation from Dream.
I find it very thematically appropriate that the Portal Gun, a piece of experimental equipment that fucks with the laws of physics, has the capacity to break reality wide open when used by competent players
It only breaks a handful of laws
Hell, it can be broken by almost everyone, portal bumping is a great example of this
Just to clarify, if it wasn't clear, this IS NOT A DRAMA VIDEO! This is purely informational!
All parties involved (Shizzal and the Portal mod team [Shizzal is also a part of the Portal mod team]) agree that these runs were invalidated. There was no argument, as this situation was not dramatized, it was simply a misunderstanding.
And anyone curious about glitches: This is specifically talking about the INBOUNDS speedrun category. This means that ANY glitches are allowed as long as they DO NOT GO OUT OF BOUNDS! There are seperate categories, like out of bounds (any%) where all glitches are allowed, and glitchless, where no glitches are allowed.
the sushi
I'm just glad he got his rightfull place back 😁
And it is true, that it was the right thing to do. But that must have suuuucked during a few days for him
this should have been clarified in the video
It’s kind of amazing that someone could accidentally break the rules and not realize it, but since that’s clearly and objectively what happened, there really is no other choice but to disqualify the runs. Rules are rules for a reason, after all, and that _was_ the whole point of the category.
It’d be like submitting a SM64 run in the 16-Star category where you do indeed collect 16 Stars but then do the BLJ to reach DDD and BitFS instead of using MIPS.
I’m glad he was able to regain his top spot afterwards, though. He definitely deserves it.
You need to pin this comment just incase
Great video on this rather unique situation Msushi, although I would never doubt a fellow Portal LEGEND.
like
so true
lol
): rip shizzal
@Shizzal its the legend
Who else thought he was gonna talk about 12 different cheaters-
And it turns out it was not even a cheater 😅
honestly, this was way more interesting, I've seen enough videos about cheaters that got caught
I did, but I found this much more interesting.
I thought he will talk about different games
Slightly click bait
I'd say this is far more interesting than any 'cheater caught' video. less drama, more tech.
Aye
Drama is cooler
Ye
@@MostlyLost arent we all meaningless bullshit
@@MostlyLost agreed.
Poor guy. Imagine finding a time save only you know. You think you just secured wr forever. But for a split second the camera goes out of bounds.
Also it saved less than a tenth of a second, not exactly a "secured wr". Also, the trick wasn't a secret since he streams his runs. He has since gotten within 1 second of his old, invalid, pb
@@ryanriley3236 speedruns are where single frames saved matter...
@@firedoctor1 hard to argue when there is that 1 level in golden eye that had to be basically frame perfect to get 1 second less
@@firedoctor1 this is true for some games for sure, but is less important in portal due to the type of game. For example, in the most current wr Shizzal actually doesn't get a trick which saves a whole 7 seconds. Not 0.7, a full 7 second timesave. So the few frames he saves in 05 are not really important over the course of a full run.
@@ryanriley3236 Yeah. Meanwhile in the original Mario game you have to literally be frame perfect for 98% of the run
It's nice to find out about invalid record runs that are an honest mistake instead of outright cheating.
6:04
CLEARLY my bumbling through 15 was cooler
how the hell was that run WR we must have sucked back then
yea
Cooler but a little awkward
pog
imo your run was honestly cooler
Sometimes a run that feels incompetent to the runner and is objectively worse just _looks_ cooler because of what you see and the number of tricks pulled off in succession.
0:35 I love the subtle flex.
i know
its hilarious
It's so subtle I didn't even realize it till I read your comment.
@@FirebunbunYT neither did i XD
@@FirebunbunYT same here. Not a sub just popped up in recommended. Had to check the channel logo to know which of them was the flex 🤣
Same thing one on his video about the unluckiest portal speedrun
7:54 Hey that's me at 10th place
Indeed it is
NIce
hi 10th place person!
Cool, I wish you luck with your future runs :D
I wonder who that guy is in 3rd place, heard he's pretty cool
He's a good man. Took it like a champ and reachieved his record. Props and respect.
The chamber 5 example is the perfect reason why I was so iffy about save glitch being used in No OoB category - there is no visual distinction between inbounds and out of bounds, you have to examine the demos very carefully to see where the portals land. Most runners just learn routes without investigating or double checking where edge glitched/save glitched portals are landing
Hi znern
Cool :) Fun fact : All my PBs before sub 13:00 was oob in E01, like Shizzal.
woah, i didnt know this :o
@Richard Hefner Jr I am
Richard Hefner Jr me sad
@Richard Hefner Jr I almost did, but you saved me from doing it lol
@Richard Hefner Jr yes I'm healthy, thanks for asking
"How can someone go out of bounds accidentally" basically, source engine pretty dummy
It's like youtube copyright strike, one copyrighted music to strike the entire video.
One out of bound glitch to disqualified them all.
Respect for that guy though, despites disqualified 12 of his speedruns. He still managed to grab the rank 1 again
I wondered what happened with shizzal's wr runs, but I figured it was an honest mistake. Glad to hear that he got his inbounds wr back and that the community as a whole learned from this experience
When "Save glitch is out of bounds" becomes more than just a meme.
2:50 I enjoy the incoherency of your anti-glitch comment.
I wanna like but funny number
@@BogusmanTheSwagman Good on ye, Ajay. Ye shall be rewarded in the next life for this deed.
It's based on a notorious comment turned copypasta I think, you can often find it on speedrun videos
@@ethanlivemere1162 It's even featured in the credits of some sourceruns speedruns
This is not speed run. It's like use cheating: you are use holes in textures, etc. you cross half game over the air. this? is not honestly, I think. IMHO - this is not rightly - to go like it. It is immitating of complete of the game. Sure - you make global and cosmical work
when you said these 12 I didn't expect them to all be the same dude omg
One of the few instances of ACTUALLY not knowing that you were "cheating" on accident. Glad to see that he did get the WR back though. (Cheating is in quotes because of the mention that the disallowed technique was increasing the difficulty.)
"How can someone accidentally go out of bounds?"
Corrupt green mushroom noises are heard from afar.
Ah, yes, Binyot's passive is always a gem
It's the second video like this I watch, and I was like : "Oh that's a really good explanation, I wonder if this youtuber is known" and then I scroll down and discover that it's Msushi... That was quite surprisig, as I didn't know he was doing videos like this. Very interesting by the way.
That's a chad move, he did a mistake he didn't mean to do, fixed it, then got even better time as world record.
*Nice*
...his new, valid WR is 1 second slower than his invalid. He got to essentially the same time, but it was slightly slower.
Guys. If you're annoyed people are using glitches. GO WATCH A GLITCHLESS RUN! GLITCHLESS EXISTS!
Honestly I can’t even _get_ mad at them, they’re fuckin awesome. Like I can barely even play the game quickly without a speed run or glitches! Finding, setting up and executing all these glitches just to save a couple of seconds is awesome and you gotta give respect to that amount of effort!
Hearing about in-bound portal speed runs makes me curious about out of bounds speedruns
"This is not speed run. It's like use cheating: you are use holes in textures, etc. you cross half game over the air. this? is not honestly, I think. IMHO - this is not rightly - to go like it. It is immitating of complete of the game. Sure - you make global and cosmical work"
Msushi
Glitches aren't black and white always. Allowing some but denying others is difficult and at times can infuriate the community.
With the extend of glitches, it's good that most basic speedrun categories do allow glitches but simply not out-of-bounds and stuff.
When credit warp was discovered I believe it got its own category.
Arguably it takes less skill to beat the game so quickly, but that doesn't include the hours of work figuring out the RAM states and how to trigger them.
2:47 in a nutshell
Sounds like dialogue from The Room
I'm gonna make a big copypasta making this longer
speed space run
Always good to see your videos pop up in my feed! Very cool!
Great video Msushi and super informative. I know I've been in community discussions before where things like this need to be discussed and while it does hurt in the short term to disqualify/adjust a run the fact of the matter is that if the runner is truly skilled in a game it doesn't diminish the talent they have and usually they can get their placement back quickly. Glad to see he was able to get back on top after it was all said and done!
I honestly love these speedrun explanations.I don't usually speedrun ,but I love these.
"Make sure to stay humble" is such a great message and something all of us should really stick to.
Great content, I'm glad this one got recomended for me!
Youre so damn good at explaining game mechs. Keep on the good work!
Cool video man, loving these
Kind of sad to see so many times get disqualified, but it's nice that he didn't get discouraged and is still running the category; best of luck to him 💛💚
i love how some have a custom portal gun... it seems very useful to make sure noone can just take the footage and use it as their own fake run
*badabun noises*
well done :) portal speedruns are amazing :) good that there are certain rules, and yes they should be followed.
"holding the world record in all of the categories"
Oh no... not again
(We're finally arriving by HOME starts playing with summoning salt voiceover in the background
1:20 Shows 2 clips, one is in bounds and one is out of bounds.
Me: these are the same
Great video! keep up the good work
Really great and informative video!
alright alright, I see the time and passion that goes into these vids, im down for the ride, subbing and liking ur uploads.
The music change when the technicality explanation came full circle? Genius
Real refreshing to see a video talk about a runner's honest mistake, what they might have glossed over when achieving their time, and the technicality on what they did wrong. Much preferable rather than the "top 10 cheaters caught" videos that come out right after the other.
I got into portal speed running about 6 months ago and I’m hooked
So shizzal got the first sub 10 speedrun twice
At least he didn't go whining about it but he took it and tried again. I respect that a lot.
in love with that cube throw
Your videos are top quality stuff, keep it up
1:44 it's so fucking funny to me how he has squilliam on his portal gun 😂😂😂
"Did you do it?"
"Yes."
"What did it cost?"
"1 second."
The video: showing two speed runs
Me: “tf going on?”
Man, looking at how Shiz sweeps through these test chambers it reminds me of the transitions for the music video for A$AP Forever
Amazing video!
I saw this on the discord and was interested so ty for explaining
Great video msushi very nice
the fact that shizzal's pfp is squilliam just adds to his status as a legend in my books
shizzal would never do this 😭
shizzle*
@@spidernh sizzle*
@@Lucas_15 dang I was hoping to woooosh someone but seems like ppl have brains
f
@@Lucas_15 jizzle? Like Jimmy DeSanta?
@@Lucas_15 fo-shizzle*
Loves how he talks about himself in 3rd person.
I'm actually really excited to watch this one.
does that mean you dont get excited to watch his other videos
I just get rather excited for those ones :)
"Make sure to stay humble."
You rock, man. 👊
"And uhh... a lot of other people did too" haha
Lots of overtime about to be put in for his volunteer job
love the Ducktales Moon Theme outro
Least it didn't turn out like most "caught speedrunner" vids where the guy caught quits speedrunning forever. Nice to see a "understandable have a nice day" kind of ending where they cleaned up the mistake.
I love when an OOB speedrun is quite literally indistinguishable from an IB speedrun.
Two msushi videos is a week? My goodness Christmas has come early...
When I saw the clip first I thought it was because of the fact that you could see out of bounds for the slightest fraction of a second when he goes through the closed door. The clip does show him as slightly to the right of other runs where they shoot against the wall with the door which could have caused that little hint of out of bounds. Which I'm surprised people haven't seen that IIRC.
lord sushi blesses us with another upload 🙏🙏🙏
I always think about how funny this whoud be in another context. "Yea sorry guys I forgot to Boise by the laws of physics"
1:49 No I didn't notice anything different.
Thanks for explaining it though.
2:52 the holy text returns
i did not undertand any single word but that video is cool my dude
Certified "ah, well shit. Oops." Moment
nice channel, keep it up !
shizzal really is a beast at this game
props to this guy to stay in the game and get his WR back with legal strats though. It also shows it really was a mistake he wasn,t aware of.
2:52, I mean some kind of "glitches" can metaphorically happen in non video games, in form of rule oversights, like in chess for a long time, the rules never specifying, making it technically legal, to have pawns turn into figures of your opponent, or the "Pam-Krabbé-Rochade".
7:50 Goodigo my man
goodigOODLOOK
ur videos are dope big ups
This was great 👍
this guy has the most quite outros ever it's kinda weird not being ear blasted whenever an outro happens
"And I'll see all you dudes.. IN THE NEXT VIDEOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
- Sean McGlockLin
Unfortunate situation, but great moral to keep your morale even when something like this happens
Imagine having an "in-bounds" speedrun limitation in a game literally called "Portal".
(I get the ruling and stuff, just thought it was ironic.)
awesome video i love portal
Shizzal goes a little fast through a door
Mods: Thats a paddling
Great Video
The very definition of camera ending man's whole career
Not really
This was super interesting
Even after his invalidated runs were removed, he was still top 10.
That's pretty impressive.
speedrunning will always blow my mind.
BIG SUB
portal speedruns happen so quick, i don't how a beginner speedrunner would learn from another just by watching speedruns.
Me: seeing Portal on the thumbnail
My brain: *CLICK NOW, I SAID NOW*
Oh pog the best speedrun UA-camr uploaded
"Make sure to stay humble" says the boy who plugs his own speedrunning success every opportunity he gets
Shizzal: expert portal player
Pop: SWUILLIAM
Good video!
"lets talk about it" you missed the perfect chance for a GMM reference
Nice spiderman reference there
got here super early! love seeing a new msushi vid