St Edward's Chair - A History of the Medieval Coronation Chair and the Stone of Scone

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    There is one item of furniture that we will see prominently during the coronation next May and that is St Edward’s Chair, the Coronation Chair. Commissioned by King Edward the First to contain the Stone of Scone, the Stone of Destiny, most English and later British sovereigns have been anointed and crowned while seated on it. In this video I will look at the history and the significance of the chair, before moving on to look at the elaborate (mostly now lost) decoration of this iconic piece of seven-hundred-year-old furniture, focusing on the symbolism of it and how the chair and its decoration relates to a particular aspect of the wider furnishing of Westminster Abbey - and what that says about English kings conception of their office.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 469

  • @mcarp555
    @mcarp555 Рік тому +131

    It always amazes me to think of all the royal rear ends that have sat there in that spot, including Henry VIII, Elizabeth I, George III, Victoria, etc. Except of course for Edward V, Lady Jane Grey and Edward VIII.

    • @nancybradford8514
      @nancybradford8514 Рік тому +11

      Fascinating isn't it

    • @JaneA544
      @JaneA544 Рік тому +4

      Don't think lady Jane was crowned and Edward visited definitely wasnt

    • @mcarp555
      @mcarp555 Рік тому +17

      @@JaneA544 The three I mentioned were not crowned. That's why I mentioned them. The only three not crowned since the chair was built.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +20

      What an extraordinary feeling it must be for the king to know he too will add to that history.

    • @mcarp555
      @mcarp555 Рік тому +4

      @@allanbarton A feeling that William may not have considered yet, and certainly not Prince George. Sometimes history is spread across a field of battle or an entire city; but sometimes it's all encompassed in a few sheets of wood, about three feet by two feet.

  • @wilsontheconqueror8101
    @wilsontheconqueror8101 Рік тому +1

    Well done! The history of the chair or throne is fascinating! Along with Edward 1 snatching it from the Scotts. The floor is beautiful!

  • @jessicaellina3878
    @jessicaellina3878 Рік тому

    I love the chair in it,s battered, faded, worn out state! It just screams of it,s history and authenticity...all those previous monarchs sitting proudly..l really can visualise it! I sincerely hope that it is never restored. Late to the party, but thankyou for this wonderful account. The Coronation was beautiful in all it,s historic splendour.

  • @MoonSpinners
    @MoonSpinners Рік тому +5

    Wouldn’t it be nice for someone to make an exact replica and decorate it as it used to be with all the gilt? It would be great to see it as it used to be

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +3

      I would love to see a replica made.

    • @cheshirecat7132
      @cheshirecat7132 Рік тому

      @@allanbarton I’m imagining a painted slipcover over the back. No harm done to the chair itself that way.

  • @paulbriere4872
    @paulbriere4872 Рік тому +6

    How did the chair escape Cromwell? Thanks for the amazing content!

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +9

      He actually used it and was enthroned in it in 1657 at his investiture as Lord Protector. It was taken to Westminster Hall for the purpose.

    • @meeeka
      @meeeka Рік тому +1

      @@allanbarton DJT's mother was a good Scottish lady teetotaler, who also suffered terribly from postpartum ailments, leaving him as an under-tended infant, who could never be controlled, even after she returned home.

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      @stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 Рік тому

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  • @LynnKsCouture
    @LynnKsCouture Рік тому

    Epic. An old chair, a rock and make-believe universe mosaic floor what better spot for the new King? It boggles the mind..

  • @macdodd
    @macdodd Рік тому +5

    Just to keep things straight, The "Stone of Scone" as you say is indeed made of local sandstone from Perthshire. This is the stone the Monks from Scone Abbey brought out for Edward to take away leaving the real stone hidden away in Scotland where it still is today. I understand that members of a certain abbey know the location of the REAL Stone & when Scotland once again becomes an independent nation it will be returned to Scone

    • @dinizklein950
      @dinizklein950 Рік тому

      A Escócia sempre será unida com a coroa, sempre.

    • @macdodd
      @macdodd Рік тому

      @Quetzalcoatl The REAL Scone stone is NOT made of local Perthshire Sandstone. It came from a totally different location.

    • @macdodd
      @macdodd Рік тому

      @Bluebell Flora I have it on good authority & besides The REAL Scone stone is NOT made of local Perthshire Sandstone. It came from a totally different location.

    • @Ionabrodie69
      @Ionabrodie69 Рік тому +1

      @@macdoddYeah okay pet…👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @trishbresolin8212
    @trishbresolin8212 Рік тому

    Love your channel! I just subscribed ⭐️

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +1

      Welcome Trish, thanks for subscribing.

  • @cittiavaticano
    @cittiavaticano Рік тому

    the swirls and precious stones match what the crusader church of the holy sepulchres original high altar was decorated with, i love this. evidence of englands crusader past?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому

      Yes absolutely, so much of the decoration of our churches in England owes inspiration to holy places elsewhere.

  • @getevennow
    @getevennow Рік тому +1

    nothing to beat the Peacock Thrown

  • @purrdiggle1470
    @purrdiggle1470 Рік тому +2

    Let the Scots keep their rock, but make them take back the House of Stuart in the process.

  • @jockellwilson7235
    @jockellwilson7235 Рік тому +1

    I feel that they need to have seat pads it looks so uncomfortable to sit down for a long time

  • @purrdiggle1470
    @purrdiggle1470 Рік тому +1

    Chuck has delusions of grandeur.

  • @camhamster3891
    @camhamster3891 Рік тому +2

    Not sure the phrase 'tart it up' is particularly appropriate to reflect even an inept conservation effort. Shame it was allowed to be so abused.

  • @Suzicherie7777
    @Suzicherie7777 Рік тому +76

    I saw this chair in person. It looks like it spent years in a high school classroom with all the initials carved into it! It still held the Stone of Scone at the time.

    • @alanaw27
      @alanaw27 Рік тому +21

      I saw it as a child with the Stone intact. I’m Scottish and I remember my father explaining the history. It was a big event when the Stone returned to Scotland.
      Graffiti is quite common on old items and buildings. In the Orkney Islands, off the north Scottish coast, there are amazing chambered tombs. When they were excavated Viking graffiti was found carved into the inner walls.

    • @thomashernandez8700
      @thomashernandez8700 Рік тому +3

      Remember the funny scene in "The King's Speech"?

  • @nickimontie
    @nickimontie Рік тому +74

    I feel that I'll be able to watch the upcoming coronation with a more informed eye ,thanks to your videos. Thank you!

    • @Cazador60140
      @Cazador60140 Рік тому

      Yes it will help the middle and poor class of London understand their roles as serfs

  • @Chris-fh2cl
    @Chris-fh2cl Рік тому +96

    The graffiti, the shabbiness and the faded decoration all add to its charm... love it! As I love this channel!

    • @patriciayohn6136
      @patriciayohn6136 Рік тому +1

      I am American and took my Daughter on a tour to England and France in 1997 a everyone on our tour got a laugh over the graffiti on the Coronation Chair, glad the British have left it there.

    • @grimtt
      @grimtt Рік тому +1

      Graffiti is one of the oldest art forms! 😂 I agree, adds to the charm. Would’ve loved to have seen the chair in its original condition too, though! Great video, since seeing the coronation I had been wondering about the chair’s history.

  • @lpcherry2324
    @lpcherry2324 Рік тому +42

    I discovered your channel just recently. Your videos are well done and fascinating, I’ve been watching all of them! Thank you!

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +6

      Glad you like them, thank you for the subscription.

  • @donnaorton9547
    @donnaorton9547 Рік тому +39

    I’m learning and SEEING so much English history from your channel. I’ll certainly be looking for this coronation chair now that you’ve explained it’s history! Thank you again for what I am learning. 🇺🇸

    • @AV-fo5de
      @AV-fo5de Рік тому +4

      It is also believed that the real stone was moved and hidden as Edward Longshanks' Army headed for Scone. The Monks removed it and hurriedly replaced it with a lump of local sandstone according to tradition. The tradition is that the real Stone will be restored to view by its hereditary keepers when Scotland regains its Independence.
      "There were no carvings, nor carrying hooks, nor any of the details seen in the 12th-century seals of the Scottish kings and also illustrated in contemporary coinage.
      These show the kings seated on some larger stone object, high enough for them to be seated on in the first place. The carried-off Stone of Destiny is only 10.75 inches (27cm high.) " must-see-scotland.

  • @thevictoryoverhimself7298
    @thevictoryoverhimself7298 Рік тому +40

    The story of the theft/liberation of the stone is seriously epic considering how recent it was. Imagine the moment where you’re getting away with reclaiming this epic and thousand plus year old object and you drop it and break it in half 😂

    • @elzar760
      @elzar760 Рік тому +6

      And then Yakety Sax begins to play.

    • @gerber680
      @gerber680 Рік тому +1

      I thought there was speculation that the stone returned to Westminster after the theft/liberation was not the actual stone of scone and that the original had been buried under a castle in Scotland. But I may have that wrong.

    • @thevictoryoverhimself7298
      @thevictoryoverhimself7298 Рік тому +1

      @@gerber680 the guy who repaired the stone (Scottish) said he secretly put a note inside it before joining the pieces together. It could very well say “PSYCHE” :)

    • @Simca33
      @Simca33 Рік тому

      Perfect Monty Python moment

    • @paulleverton9569
      @paulleverton9569 Рік тому

      I seem to recall the story of the Stones 'reappropriation' being used in an episode of ANGUS MACBETH.

  • @sandybruce9092
    @sandybruce9092 Рік тому +106

    I have discovered your videos only about a month ago and I am totally enthralled with your knowledge of British history. I am a proud American but I do envy the British people for all the items/buildings/churches/etc. that are still around to view. And I so appreciate the pacing of your speaking voice - not too slow and not too fast. So many people today seem to want to spew out words a mile a minute. Thank you so much for your videos and please keep up with showing and teaching all of us about history.

    • @paigeycakey5061
      @paigeycakey5061 Рік тому +7

      You should visit! Thanks for appreciating our history.

    • @johnbruce2868
      @johnbruce2868 Рік тому +5

      Sandy Bruce!! My goodness! With a name like Sandy Bruce it's certain your family origins are not American. There's little doubt that, akin to myself, you are descended from teuchters (persons dwelling in the countryside) from the east coast of Scotland. Your splendid name would suit you very well in any town from there. Especially the likes of Brechin, my home town. All the very best!

    • @peterbilt-bo1vy
      @peterbilt-bo1vy Рік тому +3

      Yes, all that history is absolutely fascinating. I thoroughly enjoy seeing the beautiful architecture and furnishings and imagining how it might have been to live amongst so much beauty. Of course, I do keep in mind only the upper classes had the privilege of doing so. Also, I very much enjoy hearing someone speak with such eloquence. I wish people here in the USA were taught to articulate their words and, as you mentioned, speak at a much slower pace which of course happens naturally when one properly articulates when speaking. Just so you know, I am American born and raised in the southeastern part of the country and I am blessed for it. I love my country as any patriotic American does. I simply wish people would spend more time reading books and learning proper grammar. It pains me how lacking our educational system has become. It's shameful. Worse than shameful, our own schools are, and have been, teaching our children to hate this once great nation. Communism is trying to destroy us. Nikita Khrushchev said it would accomplish that from the inside out and that is exactly what has been going on here for decades only most people here aren't aware of that because our schools have stopped teaching that which is important and have been undermining our Representative Republic. And so many of our people are walking blind. I apologize for my lengthy comment. I am just so upset about it all. Venting my emotions. Oh well. I truly enjoyed this video and hope to see many, many more of the same. God bless you all and keep you safe. ✝️💟🇺🇲♥️😔🙏✌️🙂🇺🇲❣️🇺🇲❣️🇺🇲❣️

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +7

      Bless you Sandy for your kind comments and words of encouragement. I will keeping going, it is great to know people like the work I'm doing.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +5

      @@peterbilt-bo1vymany more to come. I am a great believer that beauty has the ability to save the world, it's just a matter of enthusing the younger generation with a love of beauty.

  • @4sstg
    @4sstg Рік тому +23

    You never disappoint. 🌟

  • @annettewillis2797
    @annettewillis2797 Рік тому +20

    Brilliant overview Allan! It brings a now rather battered chair to life as the throne it once was. It is incredible though, that such a significant piece of royal, and quite political history, was left unguarded for schoolboys to write on and rest in! It is wonderful that it has survived the clear ravages of history.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +7

      I find that extraordinary too - great churches like Westminster Abbey sort of entered a period of malaise from the 17th to the early 19th century and such things were not infrequent.

  • @robert.257
    @robert.257 Рік тому +34

    The stone of destiny is back where it belongs. Also no English monarch ever sat on the throne of Scotland but a Scottish monarch sat on the throne of England when James the sixth became James the first.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +19

      Indeed, people always seem to forget that it was a Scottish takeover, not an English one!

    • @richardjohnston3359
      @richardjohnston3359 Рік тому +7

      Yes Robert also that it was a Scottish king (James ) whom created the plantation of Ireland great to see the Scots taking some responsibility as we English always get the blame and hate !! 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @robert.257
      @robert.257 Рік тому +8

      He probably might have. My point was even though Edward 1 wanted to be king of Scotland he never was. History tells you no English monarch was ever King or Queen of Scotland. But it was a Scottish take over of the English throne thanks to your Elizabeth 1 not having any children.

    • @Ionabrodie69
      @Ionabrodie69 Рік тому +4

      Oh there’s always a bitter Scot spewing bile…. 🙄🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @undiscoveredone1
      @undiscoveredone1 Рік тому

      It’s just a bit of rock, you can pick them up anywhere.

  • @andrewg.carvill4596
    @andrewg.carvill4596 Рік тому +12

    There was a similar stone at Tullyhogue in Co Tyrone in Ireland, upon which the local O'Neill Chiefs were installed since the early middle ages (outdoors on an artificial hill or Rath that mayitself date from prehistoric time and still exists). After the Tudor conquest of Ulster, this stone was apparently smashed and scattered, symbolizing the end of the Gaelic order that had lasted for over a thousand years in Ulster. Whether the Stone of Scone was quarried locally or brought from elsewhere, it does seem likely that it (and enthronement seats like it) were connected to the installation ceremonies of early Gaelic chieftains, and to the early medieval Gaelic kingdom of Dal Riada which comprised, at its height, much of Ulster and Western Scotland.

  • @jacquelinelc2843
    @jacquelinelc2843 Рік тому +13

    How interesting! Thank you for uncovering the meaningful symbolism that is lost if not uncovered and explained. I’ve seen the chair in person and was a bit disappointed, but with this background information just might see it with a new set of eyes.

  • @clarebear6736
    @clarebear6736 Рік тому +13

    I remember seeing the Coronation Chair on my visit to the UK and thinking 'Those naughty school boys.'. Thank you for bringing history to life through your videos.

  • @lauramason5667
    @lauramason5667 Рік тому +7

    It’s interesting to see how the more that we’ve learned about the universe the less powerful the monarchy became in the eyes of the public. I’m not diminishing the monarchy but they held this godly position a long time ago that they don’t or can’t reasonably hold anymore. Thank you for this fabulous education. British history fascinates me.

  • @stepps511
    @stepps511 Рік тому +13

    Thank you, Allan! What a wonderful video, full of fascinating detail.

  • @nancybradford8514
    @nancybradford8514 Рік тому +11

    I am stunned at how the chair looked firstly, and Queen Victoria had it painted brown? Why? Its so beautiful regardless and all those famous bottoms sitting on it and the floor is gorgeous, yet I had no idea of the gemstones in the actual flooring, and I want to see it one day

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +6

      I rather like the weathered look too, but it would be great to have seen it in its original splendour. I hope you can see the floor, that really is splendid.

  • @sweptashore
    @sweptashore Рік тому +12

    The floor mosaic is stunningly intricate and beautiful. The messages conveyed by its imagery are compelling. I do hope the restorative work allows it to be on view during the coronation and no longer hidden under a carpet! Also wonderful to learn about the original "glitz" of the coronation chair and how it was designed to incorporate the Stone of Scone. Cheers.

    • @όαγωνιστής-θ6θ
      @όαγωνιστής-θ6θ Рік тому +1

      Yes, it will be amazing to see. This is a tradition that originated with the Romans and is a very cool link to antiquity.

    • @caro-uk
      @caro-uk Рік тому

      The Cosmatti floor was clearly visible during the wedding William and Cathetine and the funeral of our late Queen - magnificent 🙂

  • @JaneA544
    @JaneA544 Рік тому +2

    Stone of scone was not stolen from England who stole it in the first place, it is not England property

  • @dannyboy5517
    @dannyboy5517 Рік тому +2

    Correct name of that stone is An Liath Fail

  • @zanpsimer7685
    @zanpsimer7685 Рік тому +6

    The fact Edward had the stone placed in the coronation chair has me truly gobsmacked.

  • @WickedFelina
    @WickedFelina Рік тому +6

    I thought King Harold was the last Anglo Saxon King of England?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +8

      Did I say that the Confessor was the last Saxon king, oh dear - poor Harold. Every video needs at least one unintentional error or its not real!

    • @viking1236
      @viking1236 Рік тому +3

      Technically no but practically yes. There was a Saxon successor to Harold but William the Bastard wasn’t playing ball! Don’t remember the name though sorry.

    • @meiriongwril9696
      @meiriongwril9696 Рік тому +2

      @@viking1236 Edgar the aetheling

    • @viking1236
      @viking1236 Рік тому +1

      @@meiriongwril9696 thankyou.

  • @christinewells-leddon9287
    @christinewells-leddon9287 Рік тому +9

    Fascinating, as always. I very much look forward to hearing your perspectives on some of the other vital aspects of the Coronation proceedings. Well done!

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +2

      Thank you - lots more to come, I reckon thirty + videos between now and May!

    • @christinewells-leddon9287
      @christinewells-leddon9287 Рік тому +1

      @@allanbarton You come up with some of the best topics! I loved the explanation of the tiled floor as well, I do hope we see it in it's full glory at the coronation!

  • @TerryC69
    @TerryC69 Рік тому +12

    Hi Allan! Quite an amazing bit of history surrounds the throne, stone, and floor mosaic. I was barely into the video when I had to reach for pen and paper to make notes. I consider myself privileged indeed to have access to a scholar such as yourself. Cheers!

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +1

      That's great Terry, I am really glad you have enjoyed it - very kind of you to say that you are learning from me. It is a great joy to be able to share with you all the things I am passionate about. Thanks very much.

    • @peterbilt-bo1vy
      @peterbilt-bo1vy Рік тому

      @@allanbarton I would like to thank you, as well. I very much appreciate your videos. I find history fascinating, to say the least. Please, do carry on with making these fascinating and informative videos. Thank you. 🙂🇺🇲❣️

  • @tartanthing
    @tartanthing Рік тому +8

    The Stone was not stolen in 1950, it was repatriated.

  • @wholeNwon
    @wholeNwon Рік тому +3

    I thought Harold Godwinson, Harold II, was the last Anglo-Saxon King of England.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +3

      Ha, ha- yes, slip of the tongue.

  • @jillcox6685
    @jillcox6685 Рік тому +7

    I am really enjoying your excellent videos. So informative and presented in a very concise and excellent manner. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @mindydalek7078
    @mindydalek7078 Рік тому +6

    I adore your channel and have learned so much and it really is your narration that makes it extra special. You sound much like Father Brown who I equally adore so that's probably why I enjoy your channel so much. Keep up the great work

  • @wufongtanwufong5579
    @wufongtanwufong5579 Рік тому +3

    I have heard scONe I have heard sCOne. But i have never heaard Skoone

  • @cactusrandomfred1
    @cactusrandomfred1 Рік тому +9

    Great video. Are you going to do a video about the annexes to the abbey built for each coronation. '37 and '53 were particularly interesting examples of contemporary architecture contrasting with the ancient abbey.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +6

      Yes, all of that is coming in future videos. I have a really interesting set of postcards from the 1937 coronation that shows the abbey empty with everything prepared - really wonderful. Including the annex. I wonder if they will construct one this time? They don't have long to do so.

    • @cactusrandomfred1
      @cactusrandomfred1 Рік тому +1

      @@allanbarton My instinct is that if they do, it will be smaller and more temporary like sort of pavilion or marquee. Perhaps able to be moved and used again elsewhere or again for William's eventual coronation.

  • @WudEvZ
    @WudEvZ Рік тому +1

    I don’t much like the idea of being under King Charles’ foot. Good thing it’s the wrong diagram of the celestial bodies! In truth perhaps his foot is actually on Mars or something, if you lined it up with where the planets really are. Haha King of Mars. Musk might have something to say about that.

  • @keithdavies6316
    @keithdavies6316 Рік тому +7

    Thank you for the wonderful explanation of the Coronation chair I appreciate it tremendously

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому

      You are very welcome, thanks for watching!

  • @cherylmcinnes4434
    @cherylmcinnes4434 Рік тому +5

    It would be lovely to see the chair restored to its former beauty, and yet so important for its history to be seen and maintained.

  • @handsfree1000
    @handsfree1000 Рік тому +2

    Let’s have a whip round and buy a nice new one.

  • @ReflectionsonFaith
    @ReflectionsonFaith Рік тому +17

    I had the great privilege of being shown the coronation chair in 1985 by Alan Luff, who was at that time the Precentor of Westminster Abbey. Allan, do you know where the chair would have been physically located in the Abbey during that period? I'm struggling to remember that detail of my visit. Thanks for the wonderful work, as always. 👏

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +9

      It was in two places in the Edward the Confessor's chapel in recent years, just to the east of the altar screen behind the high altar and then next to Henry V's tomb. In 85 I think it was still to the east of the altar screen. It is such an imposing chair when you come face to face with it.

    • @mcarp555
      @mcarp555 Рік тому +4

      @@allanbarton My first time in the Abbey in 1990 I clearly remember it at the top of the steps from the Henry VII chapel to the tomb of Henry V. It struck me how easily anyone could approach it. So it's probably better off in its current location.

    • @dukeofhaas
      @dukeofhaas Рік тому +3

      And the chair was still at the top of the steps from the Henry VII chapel when I first visited the abbey in 2009. Although the chair was just out of reach from visitors, it was not behind glass as it is today to the left of the western door. Personally, I prefer the current dominant location, located just across from the Tomb of the Unknown and adjacent to the historical painting of King Richard II, apparently the first image of an English monarch painted from life.

  • @dalestaley5637
    @dalestaley5637 Рік тому +3

    The Stars of David was an interesting choice to represent stars of the cosmos.

  • @bri_____
    @bri_____ Рік тому +1

    The Scottish nationalists didn't "steal it".
    Edward stole it from Scotland.
    The students simply returned it to its rightful place.

  • @dalestaley5637
    @dalestaley5637 Рік тому +2

    Did men curl their hair as it's represented in here? A repeat style is mirrored on each male.

  • @conormcmenemie5126
    @conormcmenemie5126 Рік тому +1

    There is also another aspect to the stone of destiny legend in that all the stars were aligned i that there was a very slow day at a quarry, a most talented and astute masonry salesperson (Him/her/it/she/they/them/thou), and an exceptionally thick yet wealthy traveller on his way to be inaugurated as the Scone village idiot. This tale of chance and destiny never gained much traction in the histories, tales and legends of yore, yet appears to have more credence than most other renderings of how our monarchs come to be sat upon an otherwise ill carved lump of stone.

  • @MerkabaKid
    @MerkabaKid Рік тому +3

    Excellent info, Thank you for sharing 🕊 I was reminded of the Bible verse Isaiah 66:1 KJV: Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: during the coronation, the feet of the sovreign rest on the earth within the sequarium 🤍🌸

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +2

      Exactly. All intended to show that the sovereign has the authority of God within his kingdom.

  • @Salty_Balls
    @Salty_Balls Рік тому +2

    I'll give you $100 for it. I need a new computer chair. Another $25 if you find a royal cushion for it.

  • @peterwilding3515
    @peterwilding3515 Рік тому +2

    Could the lion feet on Queen Mary’s coronation chair be the 16th century ones removed in 1727 from St Edwards chair ? They look 16th century in style, and look like they were added after the chair was made.

  • @carolburns8667
    @carolburns8667 Рік тому +3

    Fascinating information than you❤️🇨🇦

  • @dc-4ever201
    @dc-4ever201 Рік тому +1

    They might wanna restore it or make a new one as putting that poor old thing on display to the world in it's current state, pretty much says it all about our country, run down, in a sorry state and in need of significant repair.

  • @chanthamala8
    @chanthamala8 Рік тому +1

    Sorry, but if King Charles 3 wants to be about Him during the coronation. He needs to make it more about him and less about those two. And even more, 4. I love the Fantastic 4, but their shenanigans are geeting tired. Will is uptight and Meg-again cant stfu. Kate can only wear Designer clothing to distract us until it gets boring. Harry is in over his head. They all can s tfu until the coronation.

  • @UATU.
    @UATU. Рік тому +4

    I love the scene in The King’s Speech where Lionel Logue infuriates George VI by lounging on it, prompting him to yell “I have a voice!” in the cathedral.

    • @mindyschocolate
      @mindyschocolate Рік тому +2

      Yup, lol. The movie showing it with graffiti is how I learned the real one was vandalized too.

  • @harryc8415
    @harryc8415 Рік тому +4

    I saw the stone when it was still in Westminster, proudly stood in the crowds on the Royal mile and watched it being taken up to the castle and of course also visited the stone at the castle.
    And will most definitely go to view it when it is taken to Perth for permanent display.
    May well be a piece of stone quarried in or near Scone but there is something magical about it nonetheless.

    • @mcdell6970
      @mcdell6970 Рік тому

      Get a grip. It’s a fake piece of stone 🤪

    • @bobfinlayson3377
      @bobfinlayson3377 7 місяців тому

      Ah. But is the fake of a fake?​@@mcdell6970

  • @RAWGRIP54
    @RAWGRIP54 Рік тому +1

    The chair was really made to disgrace the Scottish people.

  • @bweev7863
    @bweev7863 Рік тому +2

    Do agree w’ sandy bruce

  • @henrygingold6549
    @henrygingold6549 Рік тому +2

    We'll see, we'll see

  • @ChrisHunt4497
    @ChrisHunt4497 Рік тому +3

    I can’t wait for the Coronation and your description of it. 😁😁😁

  • @MyMagical1
    @MyMagical1 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for your most informative and inspiring video. As a a proud Brit, who loves our history, watching this and learning so much, is an absolute joy.👍🇬🇧

  • @garyking2819
    @garyking2819 Рік тому +1

    Don't forget the lil' bit of blasphemous assumptions these royals took upon themselves in the placement of this most-august of British regalia, placing their covered tootsies upon the symbolic Earth in-place of God Almighty:
    'Thus says the LORD:
    “Heaven is My throne,
    And earth is My footstool.'
    - Isaiah 66 : 1a; and
    - Acts 7 : 49a (NKJV)
    I wouldn't want to be sitting in their place when He comes back to rightfully claim what was His all along.
    THANKS, ALLAN! Your hard work and joy in presenting your subject matters has enthralled me... I've happily subscribed for more insights, wonders, and outright curiosities! Keep 'em comin' PLEASE!

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому

      So glad you're enjoying my videos 😊

  • @SaintSwithinsDay
    @SaintSwithinsDay Рік тому +1

    1:50 Edward the Confessor was the last Anglo-Saxon king of England?? So you're adopting the Norman view of that whole unfortunate imbroglio?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +1

      No, I just made an error as I was delivering a mostly impromptu video.

  • @dennisboyd1712
    @dennisboyd1712 Рік тому +1

    Will The Stone Of Destiny Be Replaced under the chair?

  • @williamevans9426
    @williamevans9426 Рік тому +2

    A thoroughly enjoyable and most informative presentation. Many thanks for acquainting me and, I'm sure, many others, with lots of information of which I was previously ignorant! Having just discovered your channel, it's a pleasure to subscribe.

  • @will2Collett
    @will2Collett Рік тому +1

    Why can't they rebuild the chair using the original wood work to re create the chair of Edward the confessor??? Rerovations have been done all over England and this is a major part of the Monarchy. I don''t think I'm the only one whjo feels this way. The original could be kept inside a protective casing. Thanks for the fascinating bit of history Mr Barton..

  • @RoyRoberts-j8p
    @RoyRoberts-j8p 10 місяців тому +1

    'Hammer of the Scots' ....Love it ! 😉

  • @lemorab1
    @lemorab1 Рік тому +1

    I just watched this video about St. Edward's chair. Your is the first explanation I have read about how all the graffiti got on it. I wonder that it sat there so unguarded that the Westminster schoolboys actually had time to carve into it! I watched Elizabeth II get crowned in 1953, when I was four years old in California on a sweltering hot day. Our ancient TV set had what we would now consider a small screen, and the image was grainy black and white. But, I knew it came all the way from England, across the ocean. I was transfixed, an anglophile from all the fairytales my mom read to me. This time, I will be working, but I plan to catch UA-cam clips later on.

  • @rosajucglaserra4506
    @rosajucglaserra4506 Рік тому +3

    Moltes gràcies! thanks so much and thanks for the subtitles!

  • @ThomasCostigan
    @ThomasCostigan Рік тому +2

    Readying myself for the coronation, I'm a 32 year old English patriot who loves a bit of history.
    What a fascinating history, I love our traditions and what a great one this is!
    What a great video, cheers fella.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +1

      Hello Thomas, thanks for commenting. It is going to be amazing, to see history unfold before our eyes and for the first time in 60 years this chair once again serve its purpose.

  • @deniseatkins9407
    @deniseatkins9407 Рік тому +3

    Wow. I saw the stone and the Scottish crown jewels when I visited Edinburgh castle in 1999

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +2

      I love the Scottish crown jewels the Honours of Scotland.

    • @Wosiewose
      @Wosiewose Рік тому +3

      I wonder, will there be a procession of some kind bringing the stone south to London? Something like the procession that brought Queen Elizabeth's body back to London from Balmoral?

  • @byronumphress3805
    @byronumphress3805 3 місяці тому +1

    WAS IT REALLY A STONE TO COVER THE SEWER !?

  • @randomvintagefilm273
    @randomvintagefilm273 Рік тому +2

    England wouldn't be very interesting without the monarchy, the castles, and all the bling.

    • @Ionabrodie69
      @Ionabrodie69 Рік тому

      Says a yank no doubt…. Jog on pet because we DO have ALL of those things… JEALOUS MUCH. 🙄😂😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

    • @Ionabrodie69
      @Ionabrodie69 Рік тому

      Says a yank no doubt…. Jog on pet because we DO have ALL of those things… JEALOUS MUCH. 🙄😂😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

  • @ianport2185
    @ianport2185 Рік тому +2

    Fascinating & thanks very much for producing this - hope you get lots of views so 'the people' or in fact 'The King's People' will understand the ceremony more than otherwise.
    Hope the pavement remains uncovered since it explains the role of the monarch not as 'head of state' but as the embodiment of the kingdom (so in my opinion he's not 'head of state', but is 'the state' itself, so you can't be head of yourself!). Fixing the King in this way, I think, will allow a more democratic ceremony hopefully involving fewer peers and including at least the presiding officers of the Westminster & devolved legislatures. Plus as you say, St Edward's Chair will look amazing with the pavement complimenting its design.
    What's also interesting was that the chair remained so potent that Oliver Cromwell used it at his investiture as Lord Protector during the (probably necessary) interregnum. I also think the Stone of Scone will become a bit of a hot potato but Sturgeon will support it's temporary return home just as she was happy to attend the Accession Council.

  • @brianhepke7182
    @brianhepke7182 Рік тому +2

    Absolutely amazing.... I want to be in London for the coronation...I made this promise to myself when I was in my teens and I am hoping to fulfill it in the not too distant future.
    Great videos...thank you.

  • @carmenfoster6912
    @carmenfoster6912 Рік тому +2

    I would reupholster the whole thing

    • @Ionabrodie69
      @Ionabrodie69 Рік тому

      Of course you would…🙄.it’s a good job you lot have nothing of historical significance if that’s your answer to everything..🇬🇧

  • @robertafierro5592
    @robertafierro5592 Рік тому +1

    I sure hope the chair dosent break! It's very old!!

  • @wildduckification
    @wildduckification Рік тому +1

    "Having pilfered it" 😆😂

  • @n.c.9023
    @n.c.9023 Рік тому +7

    The history of the chair is quite amazing. Now, they need to extract The Blarney Stone and incorporate it into the ceremony!

  • @hannakelsey5430
    @hannakelsey5430 Рік тому +2

    I think with all the updates throughout the ages, I would love to see it freshly gilded for 2023. Maybe laser cut colored crystal, something to represent the future of the Monarchy.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +1

      It would be great to see a replica made.

  • @bieuxyongson
    @bieuxyongson Рік тому +3

    Thank you for another wonderful video on the history of the coronation. I love all the history that is still there for us to enjoy and learn.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +1

      So glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

  • @vijayanp.v6287
    @vijayanp.v6287 Рік тому +1

    IT BELONGS TO WHICH COUNTRY

  • @dr.strangelove7739
    @dr.strangelove7739 Рік тому +1

    Excellent presentation of the history of St. Edward's Chair. I'm glad I found your channel!

  • @claesvanoldenphatt9972
    @claesvanoldenphatt9972 Рік тому +1

    I hope that the cosmic harmony symbolized by Edward’s Chair and the mosaic flooring it stands on, activated by the fervent prayers of the Archbishop of Canterbury upon the newly crowned Christian Monarch Charles III will inspire him and all his loyal subjects to lives of piety and goodness, that peace may extend from the footstool of his sovereignty throughout the universe. God save the king! Long live the king! Christ is risen! Indeed He is risen!

  • @boomtish4520
    @boomtish4520 Рік тому +1

    It’s not the right stone.

  • @Michael-pn5lp
    @Michael-pn5lp 4 місяці тому

    Something to consider:
    The stolen Stone of Scone was recovered from Westminster Abby on Christmas Day 1950 ! On the Dead Sea Scroll's solar calendar, after the Vernal Equinox starting the next Biblical Year, it was placed on the altar in the ruins of Arbroath Abbey on the 11th April 1951.
    With a 21st March Vernal Equinox that year, this means that the Stone of Scone was placed on the
    altar of Arbroath Abby on the last seventh day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread: a Holy High Day !
    So in the same BIBLICAL year:
    • 1951 was 3400 years and the 68th Jubilee after the Exodus from Egypt ! (Working with a 4BC birth of Christ)
    • Before the next Vernal Equinox King George VI died on the 6th of February 1951.
    • Queen Elizabeth II immediately ascended the throne - although only later coronated.
    i.e. The Stone of Scone was recovered in the Jubilee 7x7 49th year of 1950, and later placed on the High Altar of Arbroath Abby on the seventh day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread - in the Jubilee 50th year of 1951 !
    The Declaration of Scottish Independence drafted at Arbroath Abby and dated the 6th April 1320, was also in the midst of the Feast of Unleavened Bread:
    The vernal equinox was the 20th March that year and the 7th April was the 4th day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread that year: the day of Christ’s resurrection on the Biblical annual calendar.
    So 631 years later (6+3+1=10), on the last 7th Day of Unleavened Bread, being a High Day, the Stone of Scone was placed on the High Alter in the ruins of that very same Arbroath Abby, wrapped in the “Saltire” or “Saint Andrews Cross” - the national flag of Scotland.
    Saint Andrew was the brother of Peter, and also an apostle and disciple of Christ.
    In the 1320 “Declaration of Arbroath” the Scott’s claimed to be Israelites who migrated from Egypt to Spain to Ireland and then to Scotland !
    Legend has it that the Stone of Scone would sometimes groan when a king was crowned on it. It is now apparent that the Stone of Scone had a flaw in it. It had a faint fracture that could be the cause of the noise when some weightier kings were crowned sitting on it: the fracture gradually progressed further and further under the weight and hence the “groans”.
    When it was removed from beneath the coronation throne in Westminster Abby on Christmas Day 1950, it finally broke into two pieces in the process.
    The smaller piece was secretly returned to Scotland almost immediately and the larger piece was returned sometime later.
    Once re-assembled and re-enforced into the semblance of one stone, it was placed on the alter as described above.
    When it was later back in Westminster Abby, Queen Elisabeth II was coronated on a broken Stone of Scone - what is the significance and implication of that as we see history unfold ???. ...

  • @misss.o.j.
    @misss.o.j. Рік тому +1

    This was informative and fascinating. Thank you!

  • @tracymcardle1236
    @tracymcardle1236 Рік тому +1

    Sorry I ment video🤗

  • @spottedreptile2671
    @spottedreptile2671 Рік тому +2

    Great video as usual. I am very interested to see what they do with the floor for King Charles' coronation. Hopefully it isn't covered in carpet again. Maybe they wanted to protect the surface when carpet was introduced. Sound deadening may be an issue, like all the horses' and troops' marching feet echoing round the streets during the Queen's funeral, so they had to bring in some sand. Maybe some red carpet strips for people to walk on but leaving the main floor uncovered?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +2

      I hope so. I think the area to the west of this floor which needs to be raised up anyway would be best carpeted - but there is no need for the whole thing to be carpeted.

  • @jonchalk3855
    @jonchalk3855 Рік тому +1

    Interesting that one can see the Shield of David on the floor of the Abbey. The line of King David carried on.

  • @charlesmccormick585
    @charlesmccormick585 Рік тому +2

    Has there been talk of restoring the Chair to its magnificent and former glory?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому

      It has been conserved, but it is too important to restore it to its former glory without losing so much of its original structure. I rather like how weather beaten it is - the patina of age.

  • @Ehm593
    @Ehm593 Рік тому +1

    I would like to see the chair fully restored, by those equipped to do so. Photographs of the damage and current state can form a history of its life, but I would like to see this chair brought back to its former splendour without taking anything away from its historic importance.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +2

      It is never going to happen it is too precious a cultural artefact. It has been conserved recently.

  • @skadiwarrior2053
    @skadiwarrior2053 6 місяців тому

    Didn't fully realise the amount and, importance of the symbolism of the chair. Fascinating thankyou.

  • @amelaamelajiang493
    @amelaamelajiang493 Рік тому +1

    不能乱改'乱動!很麻烦

  • @jameslusco6653
    @jameslusco6653 Рік тому +1

    It's very intresting the coronation chair. I will watch your previous video's and can't wait for the next 😆. Great Britian history is my favorite

  • @bobbibuttons8730
    @bobbibuttons8730 Рік тому +2

    Thanks Allan, as an aside will you be getting another hard copy of the antiquary. I have vol 1 & 2 and have subscribed but vol 3 was out of stock.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Рік тому +1

      Hello Bobbi - vol. 3 is now in stock again, I had a malfunction on the website!!!

    • @bobbibuttons8730
      @bobbibuttons8730 Рік тому

      @@allanbarton ahh thank you Allan. I look forward to the whole collection.