This day would not have meant quite so much had it not been for your videos of explanation and elucidation leading up to the wonderful and sacred ceremony. I, and all who follow along, are in your debt. Thank you so very much!
I second that. I clearly recognized the gold clothed priestly attire, the sword and spurs of the knightly part of the ceremony and the different regalia. Thank you!
Here here! Well done, and thank you for your dedication to this momentous occasion. Whether or not we agree with Charles or Camilla being crowned, it is history, and I feel privileged to watch it being made.
@@allanbarton your episodes about the history of the Coronation. watching it on tv last week end I understood most of what was going on. the bit with the holy oil was a bit difficult to understand so I just said the Lord's payer instead.
Thank you so much Dr. Barton for all your Coronation videos, I felt so smart watching. I could actually name items and historical meaning while watching. The history was amazing to watch. I can’t wait to hear your thoughts! ❤
I feel the same. I ended up doing commentary at the coronation watch party I attended because Allan's informative teaching was so thorough and interesting.
I am watching the coronation now and I don’t know about everyone else but I am super bummed that attire-wise, it seems like a royal wedding. Was really hoping to see the Royal ladies wearing tiaras, gowns, and trains. 😢
I'm watching this on the BBC because American broadcasters would be like "oh look horses", the BBC broadcasters are like " and that's Choppings who's doing well today being ridden by Lord FrumpyWhamp"
Lol While I was watching the procession I thought what could be more British than a member of the Blues and Royals riding his horse, holding the reins in one hand whilst the other held a baton to conduct the musicians behind, also riding whilst playing their instruments?😄
I was pleasently surprised that there was a Catholic Cardinal and a Greek Orthodox Priest present for the Coronation Service. I still wish the service was more like the late Queen's Coronation. Oh well. His Majesty's perogative to change what he wishes.
The like button is insufficient to describe my gratitude for this particular series which gave me a deeper understanding of the sacred coronation ceremony. I'm 69 so this was the first coronation I've witnessed, for me it was pitch perfect in retaining the ancient origins of a sacred ceremony while also celebrating the diverse place our country now is (and all the better for it, in my opinion). I hope not to witness another coronation, my wish is for our new Monarchs to have a long, happy reign which allows the Prince and Princess of Wales the time to raise their children to adulthood and fully prepare them all for their own roles in royal life. My heartfelt thanks to you.
@@allanbarton my Mum loved how smartly dressed everyone was during the big event. we couldn't believe how smartly dressed Kate looked. she was like something out of Narnia
I watched the Coronation yesterday. Most powerfull ceremony I have seen in my life. You could see The King was very emotional. It touched me deeply. I studied in history so I understand the importance of symbols and continuity. But this time, I felt it. Now I understand why our lamented late Queen didn't abdicate despite the suffering she endured at the end of her life. God save The King.
Your videos regarding the coronation were so helpful in understanding and appreciating the coronation service this morning. Thanks to your video series on the various aspects of the coronation and their symbolism I was able to explain to my husband the different parts of the service and their significance. Seeing the Cosmati Pavement in all of its glory was such a thrill! The ritual and the glorious music moved me to tears several times during the service. The inclusion of leaders of different Christian faiths in paying homage and swearing fealty to the king was heartening to see, and I appreciated Charles’ desire to make the coronation a multi faith, multicultural event where women were played an important part of the ceremony. I will remember this experience for the rest of my life. Again, many thanks to for the time you took to make the videos that helped me to appreciate the importance of the coronation service and ceremony.
A wonderful explanation, as you always do! I watched the entire Coronation with great interest, and was moved by it, especially by the excellent musical performances. I was born in 1948, as was Charles, and the first time I ever saw a television program was the Coronation of Her Majesty, the Queen in 1953.
I cannot thank you enough for all of these excellent videos. As an American, I found them most informative and educational. I was fortunate enough to visit Great Britain 35 years ago, my first stop being Westminster Abbey. While there, I took the tour of St. Edward’s Chapel, and was overtaken with a sense of history, along with great emotion. It is still very clear in my mind all these years later. Once again, thank you!
Well, I was moved to tears at various points of the Coronation. Thank you for all your videos. You have prepared us to live and appreciate this religious ceremony so much more. God save The King! May He bless Britain and the Commonwealth, always. 🙏
I was also moved to tears at various points in the ceremony especially during the musical pieces. Zadoc the Priest sent chills up and down my spine. I’m so grateful that Handel was a friend of George I and that he was asked to compose that music! You often hear it played in British history documentaries, but to actually see how the music fits into the context of the coronation service brought new meaning to the piece. When I hear it now I will remember today.
What an exciting day it's been. I just watched the coronation on tv and am almost exhausted by the effort. Can't imagine what it would have been like to spend the day taking part :o
I am still tingling with enjoyment after watching today. Thanks to you I have understood everything. You have enriched our enjoyment of this memorable day. I think all on here feel the same. Thank you.
@@allanbarton it was a little difficult to understand the bit with the Holy oil. I could understand its importance in the service. it was the idea of watching them put it on his chest on tv that I felt nervous about. I was very happy to hear about the new screen on the news
I've also been inside St Edward the Confessor's Chapel as part of a special tour - I don't think you can go in there as part of a general visit to the Abbey - it was a fascinating space.
Thank you for your educational videos Allan. It made watching the coronation much more meaningful. I thought it went very well, what did you think? I was anxious to know what you thought about it.
Thank you, Dr. Barton, for the detailed videos you created leading up to the coronation. The way you broke down the ceremony into segments really helped as the ceremony went forward on our video feed in the USA. I pray that King Charles has a long reign. It was wonderful to see the solemnity. This last video really tied things together. Powerful symbolism indeed. One of my favorite snapshot moments of the service was Prince William's homage to his dad. The reverent touch to St. Edward's crown and the kiss symbolize to me Prince William's awareness of his own calling one day to wear that crown and serve the people. Truly, the King is above all, a servant after the model of Our Lord. May King Charles have the strength and courage to do that.
I got a lot of joy from understanding what I was watching live, and seeing how what happened was either what you had predicted would happen or a slightly different choice. Thank you! (My very favorite was knowing why all the gold plates were set up.)
Only superlatives can be used to describe your videos in both the coronation and English churches generally. I was able to understand the symbolism, which would have been obscure since I am an American. One of the most moving aspects is when the small choir boy asks the king why he is here. That simple question sets the tone for everything that is to follow. Thank you for your dedication and scholarship.
I've watched the service on a screen in St. James' Park. Well...my expectations weren't particularly high to begin with and I knew this would be a rather low-key affair, yet they still managed to disappoint me. No dais? Camilla being crowned in the chair of estate? Seriously? You've got to be kidding. 20th century coronations might have been lavish and "outdated", but there was an air of grace in every movement. This service, on the other hand, looked downright ridiculous- almost like a low cost parody of the real thing.
@@allanbarton Hello again, I'm very sorry about my previous comments with regard to coronets, but I was misled. The complete absence of coronets was really dreadful. Only the Garter King of Arms and two others were wearing their heraldic crowns. The royal family also looked like a mish mash to me. It looked like a garden party gone wrong. Not even Prince William was wearing the coronet of the Heir Apparent. I found this also very disappointing. In future I'm not listening to anyone and that is it. I think you have a very difficult job summing this one up. Thanks anyway for your videos I think next time you need to advise the future King how to do the job properly!
@@reggiebosanquet1525 I somehow don't think we will ever see a future Coronation on the scale of Elizabeth II's. I can't see William reverting to the full-blown ceremony when his time comes (if I am around to see it)
I wish I was able to donate more, because ever since the late Queen’s funeral, your videos have been fundamental for this non-Brit to understand the nuances of today’s ceremony, and for that I cannot thank you enough.
Thanks from New Zealand. It was a good thing to hear the Orthodox Choir during the crowning. Thanks for all the explanations of the ritual. I thought it very traditional and easier to follow than the previous coronation . I watched online from a British News site GB news
Thank you for another insightful video the coronation. You done a heculean effort. Whe you are rested and feeling better, look forward to hearing your refections in the service. I thought some things very well done and moving and others awkwardly handled, but I guess that is to be expected.
Keeping calm, carrying on…. Loved watching the crowds on the Mall, the royal children in the carriage. Prince George did very well, Princess Charlotte so lovely, Louis is what my mother would have lovingly called “a pill”. How proud their granny Diana would be…..
I miss Anne Neville, Queen to Richard III, on your map. Apparently she lies in front of the 4 priestly seats south of the high altar. Maybe for a future video? 😉
Yes, she's not on that plan (not of my making) my understand is that she's buried there, a lead coffin was found in the 19th century in that spot when the present altar step was constructed.
I thought the tailoring on the purple tunic of estate was absolutely awful. I found myself wincing every time His Majesty lifted his arm to wave from the balcony.
What a service it was love when Prince William gave his father a kiss on his cheek. KING Charles was close to tears after that kiss. My partner isn't into the Royal family like me or even church worship. So I was so pleased I'd watched All your videos on the coronation. It helped me tell him who was who & what each part was. He did say could Princess Ann of got a bigger red feather to block Harry out of view. He may not be a Royalist like me. But he doesn't like what Harry & his wife have done. Adding if his father was Henry 8 Haz & Meg would have lost their heads by now.
Dear Allan, thank you so much again for all these wonderful and very informative video's on the coronation! A request: could make one on the Robes of State and Estate used by the King and Queen? I would be very grateful!! 🙏
i’d imagine it would have been rich with colour when pilgrims moved through it. it’s a lovely part of the ceremony that gives respite and a place for reflection, i like how that is designed into the coronation for a very personal moment for the king.
Really enjoy these videos, and given me a better understanding of yesterday's coronation (and answered a few questions I had while watching yesterday's coronation). I usually find history boring, however your videos make them really interesting. 😀
Thanks so much Dr Barton. I have an avid interest in the monarchy, its history, and its traditions. There is much you covered recently that I knew and I appreciated learning yet still more through your expertise. I would be most interested if you would release one more video with your own reflection on today’s great service. For myself, two things come to mind. First, since the death of the late Queen I have been thinking about what the King’s coronation might be like, knowing that there would have to be changes from 1953. Yet still, it occurred to me over and again that even if there weren’t the slightest deviation in the liturgy from 1953, it would still look and sound vastly different, reflecting the changes of the 20th century in British society in terms of gender, race, ethnicity, culture, and religion. Secondly, you might recall the BBC series Elizabeth R starring Glenda Jackson as Elizabeth I. Towards the end of the final episode, at the end of her life, she is reflecting on a request from the Commons. She laughs to herself and says, “This is not my father’s time; when We sit We are nearer the ground!” That sentiment struck me today watching the coronation - when we sit we are nearer the ground. My two cents from across the pond. Thank you again!
Dr. Barton, I am so grateful for your series on the coronation. I met with my friends at 1 a.m. to watch the start of the commentary with the hostess choosing our national broadcaster. The information I had about what was proceeding caused me irritation with that production, but it was wonderful to watch it on the big screen with friends. Yesterday I watched the ceremony again without commentary and was brought to tears twice. Thank you for your part in making this momentous occasion so very special for me.
I'm so glad you found the videos informative to such a degree that you preferred to watch an uncommentated version! It makes me glad to have produced the series.
I always suspected there was a quiet and private loo set up in the chapel. Along with a bottle of something nice to drink. I'm a bit disappointed that this doesn't seem to be the case.
@Bluebell Flora Of course it would be disrespectful. Didn't stop them pinching Edward's sapphire from his skeletal finger a hundred years after his death, or prevent people opening the graves of long dead kings in the spirit of scientific exploration. Bless 'em. I think it's a human thing. So a discreetly hidden cubicle for an elderly king, almost certainly with prostate problems as most old blokes seem to have, and a tiny tipple for exhausted participants, doesn't seem too disrespectful, in the context of things. 😉
Thank you, Allan, for the great pre coronation videos. I went to purcase the May print edition of your magazine. The image shows May 2023 but when added to cart it shows May 2022.
You have outdone yourself with this presentation....your eloquent words describe so beautifully the sense of history, continuity and legacy that would envelop newly crowned King Charles in this sacred space. He is indeed a sensitive man who would feel all of this very deeply. Thank-you so much for your commentary which adds so much to this unforgettable occasion.
Congratulations on being the only commentator to correctly guess what the King would wear to the coronation-- the putple doublet with trousers instead of stockings and hose.
That was interesting - would have liked to have known this at the time of the coronation - was wondering why he came out with a different crown and why they went back there to start with.
I found the coronation very moving. I didn't know what to expect and felt so proud of what we did that day. Not only that, the armed forces parading was amazing to see. It's a pity there are people out there who just don't get it. This is part of us, our history and identity. It matters.
Many, many thanks for all your videos, Allen! We are all much better informed thanks to you. It was a great pleasure to see that you were perfectly correct about the king not wearing a military uniform, as it would be both without historical precedence and highly impractical. Is there any chance of a "review" of the coronation?
Your Coronation Videos are superb as are all of your videos. Maybe you could consider doing a series of videos on former Monarchs! I find it fascinating on how many of those who end up with the crown were not born with that direct destiny. Before King Charles you have to go back to his Great Great grandfather Edward VII to find another person born as heir and was coronated King or Queen Regnet. Neither George V, VI, or Elizabeth II had been born heir, their intended life was vastly different. But it seems in the House of Windsor you are more likely to be Crowned King if you are the Duke of York rather than the Prince of Wales
Yes that's right - so many of our kings have been second sons. Henry VIII, James II, William IV, George V, George VI among them - only one of them William IV wasn't Duke of York. It is fascinating, how the quirk of fate works. Plenty of new content to come over the coming weeks.
Well, I tried to be generous and balanced about the changes seen, which I think I was. However, I received a string of really very abusive comments and emails, because I wasn't either totally effusive or totally dismissive of it. Life's too short to put up with that, clearly the coronation polarised opinion in I way I hadn't anticipated.
Allan i see pix of his great granddad and grand father and the Crown 👑 looks much taller than the one worn by charoes . Wasn't the arches to be rased after the death of of his mom ....i think it was resized to fit him but the height wasnt adjusted . In its current form it looks compressed on his head . I hope its adjusted in time for the opening of Parliament.
I have to wonder if there might be any sort of private, secret reflective tradition that happens in the chapel beyond what we know…maybe making a circuit of the tombs to reflect on the history they are taking part in?
Thanks for the videos during the run up to the coronation. I have a question. It seems to me that no major changes have been made to the Imperial State Crown. I was expecting the four arches to be higher to come to a point, as it was for George VI.
Yes it didn't look quite right on Charles's head - I think the crown suited the late Queen better. Maybe we are just so used to seeing her wearing it when she opened Parliament each year that it is hard to see it on anyone else's head?
I seem to recall that the wooden superstructure was restored sometime around 1902 and was raised during the war to allow the Confessor's remains to be moved to a place of safety should the Abbey have been damaged by Luftwaffe bombing.
Yes that's right, though the need never arose. I have seen a photo, I can't recall where, of the shrine packed round with sandbags. That wooden superstructure is interesting, long thought to be part of Mary Tudor's restoration - it is more likely of the 1520s or early 1530s and the cover that protected the golden feretory of the saint, and was raised and lowered on pulleys to reveal it.
Allan. The BBC keeps "reporting" that William the Conqueror was the first monarch coronated in Westminster Abbey. However, I've heard there is evidence that Harold II was coronated there. Yet, the Normans (back then) said Harold's coronation took place at Winchester. What is your "take" on this. Thanks.
I can see I'm not alone in wondering what the lavatorial arrangements were, and hoping their might be a porta-potty in the chapel. Along with a nice cup of tea. This religious stuff is all very well, but he's also a man. And ladies and gentlemen, especially of a certain age, have needs.
Watching the Coronation was infinitely more enjoyable thanks to your informative videos. It was, however, a pity (for me, at least) to see that the thrones were not elevated on a stepped platform but were simply placed, like common-or-garden (albeit elaborately decorated) chairs at the same level as the rest of the coronation theatre. I wonder why this was the case?
Perhaps because the King and Queen are elderly and they didn't want any risk of falling with stairs whilst wearing heavy robes? Just a thought, I have no idea.
Havong re-watched the coronation 'highlights' (!) I note that, on leaving the coronation theatre, HM The King descended a shallow but perceptible slope (evident from the angle between the carpet [at the point at which it changes from gold to blue] and the front choir stalls). The thrones were, therefore, indeed elevated, albeit without steps. My apologies for the error underlying my previous comment.
All throughout yesterday’s ceremony I kept thinking how much I am looking forward to hearing your opinion and analysis of the whole event. I understand they must be sensitive to modern tastes but I must say I was a little disappointed by the lack of aristocratic robes, coronets and tiaras.
These are where there were once flat engraved brass figures and inscriptions over graves. One of the people buried in here was John of Waltham, Bishop of Salisbury.
Well she was but I was shocked how poorly she was treated by a few seconds of anointing in her chair as if really wasn’t an important issue compared with her husband. I also expected at least one female bishop to attend her throughout the service. Ladies in waiting just don’t hack it in this situation. I’m a retired female cleric and like things done properly. The King looked a bit fragile and to have his queen sit tall beside him would have been entirely fitting.
This day would not have meant quite so much had it not been for your videos of explanation and elucidation leading up to the wonderful and sacred ceremony. I, and all who follow along, are in your debt. Thank you so very much!
I second that. I clearly recognized the gold clothed priestly attire, the sword and spurs of the knightly part of the ceremony and the different regalia. Thank you!
Agreed!
Here here! Well done, and thank you for your dedication to this momentous occasion.
Whether or not we agree with Charles or Camilla being crowned, it is history, and I feel privileged to watch it being made.
Thank you for your erudition, Mr Barton.
“Immense weight of history” indeed. So well said. Your entire coronation series has been exemplary. Thank you!
Thanks very much, glad you've enjoyed it !
@@allanbarton your episodes about the history of the Coronation. watching it on tv last week end I understood most of what was going on. the bit with the holy oil was a bit difficult to understand so I just said the Lord's payer instead.
I have to say the coronation moved me to tears, it’s like the end of a long thread that weaves it way back in time & connects us to all our history.
Thank you
The only thing that brings me to tears is that beastly thing sitting next to him and given such an undeserved title!
I've watched all your videos about the coronation, and it has enhanced my understanding and enjoyment. Thank you😊
Thank you so much Dr. Barton for all your Coronation videos, I felt so smart watching. I could actually name items and historical meaning while watching. The history was amazing to watch. I can’t wait to hear your thoughts! ❤
I feel the same. I ended up doing commentary at the coronation watch party I attended because Allan's informative teaching was so thorough and interesting.
@@ElizabethEllenCarter- me too!
I am watching the coronation now and I don’t know about everyone else but I am super bummed that attire-wise, it seems like a royal wedding. Was really hoping to see the Royal ladies wearing tiaras, gowns, and trains. 😢
Yes, that was disappointing, but perhaps not surprising.
Yes, you are right. At least they were wearing the mantles of the various and sundry chivalric orders I guess. The Princess of Wales looked stunning.
I'm watching this on the BBC because American broadcasters would be like "oh look horses", the BBC broadcasters are like " and that's Choppings who's doing well today being ridden by Lord FrumpyWhamp"
😂
Exactly! BBC for anything UK
@Allan Barton - The Antiquary it's like OMG THE COACH IS SHINY!
That's when I bailed to BBC.😂
Lol While I was watching the procession I thought what could be more British than a member of the Blues and Royals riding his horse, holding the reins in one hand whilst the other held a baton to conduct the musicians behind, also riding whilst playing their instruments?😄
😂😂😂🐎
Absolutely amazing. No idea all these people were buried in the abbey. The layout you showed was jaw dropping. Wow like Anne of Cleves!
I was pleasently surprised that there was a Catholic Cardinal and a Greek Orthodox Priest present for the Coronation Service.
I still wish the service was more like the late Queen's Coronation. Oh well. His Majesty's perogative to change what he wishes.
The like button is insufficient to describe my gratitude for this particular series which gave me a deeper understanding of the sacred coronation ceremony. I'm 69 so this was the first coronation I've witnessed, for me it was pitch perfect in retaining the ancient origins of a sacred ceremony while also celebrating the diverse place our country now is (and all the better for it, in my opinion). I hope not to witness another coronation, my wish is for our new Monarchs to have a long, happy reign which allows the Prince and Princess of Wales the time to raise their children to adulthood and fully prepare them all for their own roles in royal life. My heartfelt thanks to you.
Thank you very much, I'm so glad to have augmented your experience of the coronation in this way. And may the King and Queen be granted many years!
@@allanbarton my Mum loved how smartly dressed everyone was during the big event. we couldn't believe how smartly dressed Kate looked. she was like something out of Narnia
I watched the Coronation yesterday. Most powerfull ceremony I have seen in my life. You could see The King was very emotional. It touched me deeply. I studied in history so I understand the importance of symbols and continuity. But this time, I felt it. Now I understand why our lamented late Queen didn't abdicate despite the suffering she endured at the end of her life. God save The King.
Amen!
she uderstood fully the weight that she bore
Your videos regarding the coronation were so helpful in understanding and appreciating the coronation service this morning. Thanks to your video series on the various aspects of the coronation and their symbolism I was able to explain to my husband the different parts of the service and their significance. Seeing the Cosmati Pavement in all of its glory was such a thrill! The ritual and the glorious music moved me to tears several times during the service. The inclusion of leaders of different Christian faiths in paying homage and swearing fealty to the king was heartening to see, and I appreciated Charles’ desire to make the coronation a multi faith, multicultural event where women were played an important part of the ceremony. I will remember this experience for the rest of my life. Again, many thanks to for the time you took to make the videos that helped me to appreciate the importance of the coronation service and ceremony.
Your videos leading up to the coronation were incredibly helpful to understand the ceremony.
A wonderful explanation, as you always do! I watched the entire Coronation with great interest, and was moved by it, especially by the excellent musical performances.
I was born in 1948, as was Charles, and the first time I ever saw a television program was the Coronation of Her Majesty, the Queen in 1953.
Thank you for all the excellent coronation specials.
Glad you enjoyed them!
I cannot thank you enough for all of these excellent videos. As an American, I found them most informative and educational. I was fortunate enough to visit Great Britain 35 years ago, my first stop being Westminster Abbey. While there, I took the tour of St. Edward’s Chapel, and was overtaken with a sense of history, along with great emotion. It is still very clear in my mind all these years later. Once again, thank you!
Bow down to your king
Take a bow, Dr Barton. A magnificent series of videos.
As an Australian, your videos then the coronation last night made it all so much better
Glad you found the series helpful!
Well, I was moved to tears at various points of the Coronation.
Thank you for all your videos. You have prepared us to live and appreciate this religious ceremony so much more.
God save The King!
May He bless Britain and the Commonwealth, always. 🙏
I lost it at Zadok the Priest and sniffled my way through the rest and then lost it again at the King's final wave from the balcony. Oh, my sinuses!
I was also moved to tears at various points in the ceremony especially during the musical pieces. Zadoc the Priest sent chills up and down my spine. I’m so grateful that Handel was a friend of George I and that he was asked to compose that music! You often hear it played in British history documentaries, but to actually see how the music fits into the context of the coronation service brought new meaning to the piece. When I hear it now I will remember today.
@@heatherjones6647 Yes - that's where I started. Went through half a box of tissues.
HE WORE HIS GRANDFATHER'S SURCOAT!! I was beyond thrilled!
I really enjoyed this series. I just finished watching the Coronation and it was thrilling to know what was going on because of your videos.
What an exciting day it's been. I just watched the coronation on tv and am almost exhausted by the effort. Can't imagine what it would have been like to spend the day taking part :o
Thank you so much for this wonderful description.
My pleasure, thanks for watching 😊
I am still tingling with enjoyment after watching today. Thanks to you I have understood everything. You have enriched our enjoyment of this memorable day. I think all on here feel the same. Thank you.
You are the best, Allan! Thank you for making us understand the seremony of coronation. You've done a wonderful job.
Thank you very much! Glad you have found the series helpful and informative.
@@allanbarton it was a little difficult to understand the bit with the Holy oil. I could understand its importance in the service.
it was the idea of watching them put it on his chest on tv that I felt nervous about. I was very happy to hear about the new screen on the news
Thank you for the most informative videos on the Coronation and all the Royal history. I love it!
Glad you've enjoyed the series!
Thank you Allan for this Coronation series. They will be an invaluable reosurce for the posterity also
Glad you have enjoyed them, thank you!
I've watched and greatly appreciated your coronation videos. Thank you for your hard work and wonderful knowledge
Thank you. You have done fantastic work.
Your answer was exactly the question I asked myself…where have they gone? So thank for that.🏴🇬🇧
I've also been inside St Edward the Confessor's Chapel as part of a special tour - I don't think you can go in there as part of a general visit to the Abbey - it was a fascinating space.
Thank you so much for your coronation series - you have enhanced the experience for me and I’m sure many others! Amazing stuff!
Thank you for your educational videos Allan. It made watching the coronation much more meaningful. I thought it went very well, what did you think? I was anxious to know what you thought about it.
Thank you, Dr. Barton, for the detailed videos you created leading up to the coronation. The way you broke down the ceremony into segments really helped as the ceremony went forward on our video feed in the USA. I pray that King Charles has a long reign. It was wonderful to see the solemnity. This last video really tied things together. Powerful symbolism indeed.
One of my favorite snapshot moments of the service was Prince William's homage to his dad. The reverent touch to St. Edward's crown and the kiss symbolize to me Prince William's awareness of his own calling one day to wear that crown and serve the people. Truly, the King is above all, a servant after the model of Our Lord. May King Charles have the strength and courage to do that.
I got a lot of joy from understanding what I was watching live, and seeing how what happened was either what you had predicted would happen or a slightly different choice. Thank you! (My very favorite was knowing why all the gold plates were set up.)
Glad to have informed you in this way!
This series has been excellent Allan - Your explanations have been so very good.
Thank you very much, glad the series has been appreciated!
A shame that St Edward was replaced as patron saint of England by St George who may not have even existed and if he did had no English blood.
The coronation was meaningful to me because I had previously watched your videos on the topic. Thank you very much.
Thanks! Joan and Dennis from Round Rock, Texas have enjoyed the many hours of your insight and education regarding the Coronation. God Save The King~!
Amen! And glad you've been enjoying the series 😊
Only superlatives can be used to describe your videos in both the coronation and English churches generally. I was able to understand the symbolism, which would have been obscure since I am an American. One of the most moving aspects is when the small choir boy asks the king why he is here. That simple question sets the tone for everything that is to follow. Thank you for your dedication and scholarship.
Thank you very much, this kind of appreciation makes it more than worthwhile! Glad you enjoy my videos.
@@allanbarton way did our new King have only one glove on?
I've watched the service on a screen in St. James' Park. Well...my expectations weren't particularly high to begin with and I knew this would be a rather low-key affair, yet they still managed to disappoint me. No dais? Camilla being crowned in the chair of estate? Seriously? You've got to be kidding. 20th century coronations might have been lavish and "outdated", but there was an air of grace in every movement. This service, on the other hand, looked downright ridiculous- almost like a low cost parody of the real thing.
Got it in one.
I'm struggling to write a positive debrief video.
@@allanbarton Hello again, I'm very sorry about my previous comments with regard to coronets, but I was misled. The complete absence of coronets was really dreadful. Only the Garter King of Arms and two others were wearing their heraldic crowns. The royal family also looked like a mish mash to me. It looked like a garden party gone wrong. Not even Prince William was wearing the coronet of the Heir Apparent. I found this also very disappointing. In future I'm not listening to anyone and that is it. I think you have a very difficult job summing this one up. Thanks anyway for your videos I think next time you need to advise the future King how to do the job properly!
@@reggiebosanquet1525 I somehow don't think we will ever see a future Coronation on the scale of Elizabeth II's. I can't see William reverting to the full-blown ceremony when his time comes (if I am around to see it)
Thank you. Wouldn’t it be marvellous to wander around the Abbey without hordes of tourists - just soaking it all up. 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
Superbly written and delivered as only you, with your erudition, can deliver, Allan.
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it.
I wish I was able to donate more, because ever since the late Queen’s funeral, your videos have been fundamental for this non-Brit to understand the nuances of today’s ceremony, and for that I cannot thank you enough.
It is my great pleasure, it has been a joy for me to share them with you all. Thank you.
I hope you do a vid on what surprised you during the coronation. Love to hear your take on it.
I am, but I'm going to ponder it for a day.
@@allanbarton if it's two weeks later, that's fine. You've been so busy and not feeling well.
Thank You
My pleasure!
Thanks from New Zealand. It was a good thing to hear the Orthodox Choir during the crowning. Thanks for all the explanations of the ritual. I thought it very traditional and easier to follow than the previous coronation . I watched online from a British News site GB news
Thank you for another insightful video the coronation. You done a heculean effort. Whe you are rested and feeling better, look forward to hearing your refections in the service. I thought some things very well done and moving and others awkwardly handled, but I guess that is to be expected.
I've never realised before that St Edward the Confessor is not considered Edward I as apparently the numbers only start with the Normans
How are you feeling ?? Thank you again for all these awesome videos! ❤
Thanks!
Keeping calm, carrying on…. Loved watching the crowds on the Mall, the royal children in the carriage. Prince George did very well, Princess Charlotte so lovely, Louis is what my mother would have lovingly called “a pill”. How proud their granny Diana would be…..
Looked down into it from Diamond Jubilee gallery. I think it all went very well. Thank you Allan for all your efforts.
Thank you so much for this video; the history is remarkable!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
Amazing,Allan
Thank you!
I had a completely different experience watching the coronation because of you. Your work is deeply appreciated.
Thank you.
I miss Anne Neville, Queen to Richard III, on your map. Apparently she lies in front of the 4 priestly seats south of the high altar. Maybe for a future video? 😉
Yes, she's not on that plan (not of my making) my understand is that she's buried there, a lead coffin was found in the 19th century in that spot when the present altar step was constructed.
@@allanbartonI would love a video on her! And thank you again for all the explanations these last few days. They helped a lot!!
Thanks so very much for your videos. They were so helpful in watching the coronation.
Thank you very much.
I thought the tailoring on the purple tunic of estate was absolutely awful. I found myself wincing every time His Majesty lifted his arm to wave from the balcony.
What a service it was love when Prince William gave his father a kiss on his cheek. KING Charles was close to tears after that kiss. My partner isn't into the Royal family like me or even church worship. So I was so pleased I'd watched
All your videos on the coronation. It helped me tell him who was who & what each part was. He did say could Princess Ann of got a bigger red feather to block Harry out of view. He may not be a Royalist like me. But he doesn't like what Harry & his wife have done. Adding if his father was Henry 8 Haz & Meg would have lost their heads by now.
Dear Allan, thank you so much again for all these wonderful and very informative video's on the coronation!
A request: could make one on the Robes of State and Estate used by the King and Queen? I would be very grateful!! 🙏
i’d imagine it would have been rich with colour when pilgrims moved through it. it’s a lovely part of the ceremony that gives respite and a place for reflection, i like how that is designed into the coronation for a very personal moment for the king.
Thank you so much, I found this very interesting. Did not know any of this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
These videos have been so informative and a wonderful preparation for the coronation.
Thanks very much, glad you found the series helpful!
Thank you sir.
My pleasure 😊
Very interesting and educational video. Thanks so much!
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
Thank you for the precoronation videos, Allan! As someone already said, they really made the event more special with the advance education!
Glad you found them helpful!
Thank you for your explanation. You always tell your stories in a very understandable manner.
Glad you found it helpful!
Thank you so much for this informative video, and for the sensitive way you presented it. Serious and reverent without sycophancy.
What a thoughtful comment, thank you! Glad you appreciated the video 😊
Really enjoy these videos, and given me a better understanding of yesterday's coronation (and answered a few questions I had while watching yesterday's coronation).
I usually find history boring, however your videos make them really interesting. 😀
Thank you very much, glad you have found the series interesting and informative!
Thanks so much Dr Barton. I have an avid interest in the monarchy, its history, and its traditions. There is much you covered recently that I knew and I appreciated learning yet still more through your expertise.
I would be most interested if you would release one more video with your own reflection on today’s great service.
For myself, two things come to mind. First, since the death of the late Queen I have been thinking about what the King’s coronation might be like, knowing that there would have to be changes from 1953. Yet still, it occurred to me over and again that even if there weren’t the slightest deviation in the liturgy from 1953, it would still look and sound vastly different, reflecting the changes of the 20th century in British society in terms of gender, race, ethnicity, culture, and religion.
Secondly, you might recall the BBC series Elizabeth R starring Glenda Jackson as Elizabeth I. Towards the end of the final episode, at the end of her life, she is reflecting on a request from the Commons. She laughs to herself and says, “This is not my father’s time; when We sit We are nearer the ground!” That sentiment struck me today watching the coronation - when we sit we are nearer the ground.
My two cents from across the pond. Thank you again!
Dr. Barton, I am so grateful for your series on the coronation. I met with my friends at 1 a.m. to watch the start of the commentary with the hostess choosing our national broadcaster. The information I had about what was proceeding caused me irritation with that production, but it was wonderful to watch it on the big screen with friends. Yesterday I watched the ceremony again without commentary and was brought to tears twice. Thank you for your part in making this momentous occasion so very special for me.
I'm so glad you found the videos informative to such a degree that you preferred to watch an uncommentated version! It makes me glad to have produced the series.
I always suspected there was a quiet and private loo set up in the chapel. Along with a bottle of something nice to drink. I'm a bit disappointed that this doesn't seem to be the case.
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Perhaps it was the case. Surely there must have been one somewhere for them to use.
@Bluebell Flora Of course it would be disrespectful. Didn't stop them pinching Edward's sapphire from his skeletal finger a hundred years after his death, or prevent people opening the graves of long dead kings in the spirit of scientific exploration. Bless 'em. I think it's a human thing. So a discreetly hidden cubicle for an elderly king, almost certainly with prostate problems as most old blokes seem to have, and a tiny tipple for exhausted participants, doesn't seem too disrespectful, in the context of things. 😉
Thank you, Allan, for the great pre coronation videos. I went to purcase the May print edition of your magazine. The image shows May 2023 but when added to cart it shows May 2022.
I wasn't publishing it last year, it will be a clerical error - I'm prone to those. If it has a coat of arms on it you know you've got the right one.
Thank you for this video, it has answered my question as to why His Majesty went behind there.
Glad to be of service!
You have outdone yourself with this presentation....your eloquent words describe so beautifully the sense of history, continuity and legacy that would envelop newly crowned King Charles in this sacred space. He is indeed a sensitive man who would feel all of this very deeply. Thank-you so much for your commentary which adds so much to this unforgettable occasion.
It's so encouraging to hear your appreciation, thank you!
Congratulations on being the only commentator to correctly guess what the King would wear to the coronation-- the putple doublet with trousers instead of stockings and hose.
That was interesting - would have liked to have known this at the time of the coronation - was wondering why he came out with a different crown and why they went back there to start with.
I found the coronation very moving. I didn't know what to expect and felt so proud of what we did that day. Not only that, the armed forces parading was amazing to see. It's a pity there are people out there who just don't get it. This is part of us, our history and identity. It matters.
Many, many thanks for all your videos, Allen! We are all much better informed thanks to you. It was a great pleasure to see that you were perfectly correct about the king not wearing a military uniform, as it would be both without historical precedence and highly impractical. Is there any chance of a "review" of the coronation?
There is one on the way. Thank you for your kind comment.
Your Coronation Videos are superb as are all of your videos. Maybe you could consider doing a series of videos on former Monarchs! I find it fascinating on how many of those who end up with the crown were not born with that direct destiny. Before King Charles you have to go back to his Great Great grandfather Edward VII to find another person born as heir and was coronated King or Queen Regnet. Neither George V, VI, or Elizabeth II had been born heir, their intended life was vastly different. But it seems in the House of Windsor you are more likely to be Crowned King if you are the Duke of York rather than the Prince of Wales
Yes that's right - so many of our kings have been second sons. Henry VIII, James II, William IV, George V, George VI among them - only one of them William IV wasn't Duke of York. It is fascinating, how the quirk of fate works. Plenty of new content to come over the coming weeks.
It's 6.55 New York time on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, when your brand new video of the coronation was taken down. What happened? I was enjoying it!
Well, I tried to be generous and balanced about the changes seen, which I think I was. However, I received a string of really very abusive comments and emails, because I wasn't either totally effusive or totally dismissive of it. Life's too short to put up with that, clearly the coronation polarised opinion in I way I hadn't anticipated.
Allan i see pix of his great granddad and grand father and the Crown 👑 looks much taller than the one worn by charoes . Wasn't the arches to be rased after the death of of his mom ....i think it was resized to fit him but the height wasnt adjusted . In its current form it looks compressed on his head . I hope its adjusted in time for the opening of Parliament.
I hope you will make a video about your impressions now that it's all over!
I certainly will.
@@allanbarton I was pleasantly surprised with some aspects, and very disappointed at others. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
The leather harnesses and leather rig for the royal carriage horses are made by a Norwegian man that I met some years ago.
I was hoping there would be cameras in St Edward's Chapel so we can see the goings on in there.
I have to wonder if there might be any sort of private, secret reflective tradition that happens in the chapel beyond what we know…maybe making a circuit of the tombs to reflect on the history they are taking part in?
Thanks for the videos during the run up to the coronation. I have a question.
It seems to me that no major changes have been made to the Imperial State Crown. I was expecting the four arches to be higher to come to a point, as it was for George VI.
Yes it didn't look quite right on Charles's head - I think the crown suited the late Queen better. Maybe we are just so used to seeing her wearing it when she opened Parliament each year that it is hard to see it on anyone else's head?
I seem to recall that the wooden superstructure was restored sometime around 1902 and was raised during the war to allow the Confessor's remains to be moved to a place of safety should the Abbey have been damaged by Luftwaffe bombing.
Yes that's right, though the need never arose. I have seen a photo, I can't recall where, of the shrine packed round with sandbags. That wooden superstructure is interesting, long thought to be part of Mary Tudor's restoration - it is more likely of the 1520s or early 1530s and the cover that protected the golden feretory of the saint, and was raised and lowered on pulleys to reveal it.
Allan. The BBC keeps "reporting" that William the Conqueror was the first monarch coronated in Westminster Abbey. However, I've heard there is evidence that Harold II was coronated there. Yet, the Normans (back then) said Harold's coronation took place at Winchester. What is your "take" on this. Thanks.
I can see I'm not alone in wondering what the lavatorial arrangements were, and hoping their might be a porta-potty in the chapel. Along with a nice cup of tea. This religious stuff is all very well, but he's also a man. And ladies and gentlemen, especially of a certain age, have needs.
Watching the Coronation was infinitely more enjoyable thanks to your informative videos. It was, however, a pity (for me, at least) to see that the thrones were not elevated on a stepped platform but were simply placed, like common-or-garden (albeit elaborately decorated) chairs at the same level as the rest of the coronation theatre. I wonder why this was the case?
Perhaps because the King and Queen are elderly and they didn't want any risk of falling with stairs whilst wearing heavy robes? Just a thought, I have no idea.
Havong re-watched the coronation 'highlights' (!) I note that, on leaving the coronation theatre, HM The King descended a shallow but perceptible slope (evident from the angle between the carpet [at the point at which it changes from gold to blue] and the front choir stalls). The thrones were, therefore, indeed elevated, albeit without steps. My apologies for the error underlying my previous comment.
I hope that the Majesties and the other present had a brief opportunity to meet the needs of nature...
All throughout yesterday’s ceremony I kept thinking how much I am looking forward to hearing your opinion and analysis of the whole event. I understand they must be sensitive to modern tastes but I must say I was a little disappointed by the lack of aristocratic robes, coronets and tiaras.
What Henry VIII did to St. Edwards's Shrine during the Dissolution of the Monasteries was absolutely horrendous.
What is the name of the robe maker?
Allan, At 5:46 you show a floorplan of the chapel. I see a number of "Indents". Ex. Indent V. Indents XII. What are indents?
These are where there were once flat engraved brass figures and inscriptions over graves. One of the people buried in here was John of Waltham, Bishop of Salisbury.
@@allanbarton Thank you!!
You prepared us well, thank you! One question: was Queen Camilla anointed? I did not see that. I hope your health has been better, take care!
Well she was but I was shocked how poorly she was treated by a few seconds of anointing in her chair as if really wasn’t an important issue compared with her husband. I also expected at least one female bishop to attend her throughout the service. Ladies in waiting just don’t hack it in this situation. I’m a retired female cleric and like things done properly.
The King looked a bit fragile and to have his queen sit tall beside him would have been entirely fitting.
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Where did the King go to after the coronation? Probably to the loo ("bathroom" in U.S. English), given the overall length of the ceremony.