You have really stepped up at the right place and the right time with respect to Carcanos. Your channel is the go to resource for a new generation of milsurp collectors. I never expected to see milsurps imported again.Thanks for all the info. My new (to me) 91/24 cleaned up nicely. Now, if I could only find some surplus ammo!
The surplus ammo imported 20-30 years ago was in pretty bad shape. If any is left in Italy, I suspect it would also be in bad shape. I don't know if they continued to manufacture it after WW2 when they adopted US/NATO weapons. They may have relied on existing WW2 stash in storage to supply their State Police. Will be interesting to find out if any comes in.
@@Mike-tw1pi There are clips (with presumably accompanying ammunition) dated into at least the 50s. It's likely that they did produce ammo at least until then, probably a few decades after as well, but I suspect post war production numbers were very low and that they mostly used old ammo.
I’ve got a 91 ts variation you don’t have. I have the style where they removed the bottom sling mount and plugged the buttstock placement like yours. But it also has a straight bayonet mount for the standard bayonet instead of the side mounting lug. I thought maybe someone personally did this, but then I noticed several others in that configuration😊. It’s not a cut down rifle as the front nose piece is the type that had the lower sling mount as part of it, originally.
My m38 rifle in 6.5 is a 1940 Terni, it has just the side swivels. Interesting your 1941 Terni has both side and bottom. I suspect that is why the 91/41 was designed with both side and bottom.... they knew they wanted to head in that direction while still making m38's.
Nice collection. Even with all the variants that you have I didn't see one like the one I have. Mine has made in Italy on top. Cal 6.5 40-XVlll F.N.A.-BRESCIA and a crown over RE and XF2581. It has no bayonet or attachment and has no handguard on top of any kind, it is open from the sight to the front of the barrel. It also has no front sling point but it has one in the side of the rear. The very end of the forearm has a slot in it so maybe the top guard and sling mount is just missing.
I have 3, i have 2 model i, one thats been sporterized years ago and one stock version. I have an 1891 that i put together in the wrong stock only because i cant find the proper octagon barrel stock. It took me years to get these rifles put together, its a long story. I found these rifles to be made from very good materials but the quality control was pretty poor, I had to do a lot of work to get them to cycle smoothly. The Oswald blunt-nosed ammunition was nearly impossible to cycle smoothly through these rifles, but the newer pointed ammunition slides right through very smoothly. Ive never seen the Carcano ammunition in blunt-nosed and it always made me wonder if Oswald's rifle was loaded with the Arisaka rounds?? Everybody on-line tries testing their Carcano with the wrong ammunition and fails to simply realize that Oswald had the very blunt-nosed rounds😮
Wow, impressive collection and as usual - very informative! I have a question regarding the first example of the 1891 Troop Special. I have a similar model dated 1905 yet on yours, the receiver has "Made in Italy" stamped in English while mine has no stamping at all. Any explanation why it wouldn't be in Italian? Perhaps this is another variant? Also, on the 91TS rear sights and 91 Calvary Carbine bayonets, the push buttons appear to have a composite cover or inlay - is this Bakelite perhaps? Lastly, regarding the "faceted" barrel shank you reference, researching the Mosin Nagant 91/30 "Hex" and "Round" receiver variants, these changes didn’t take place immediately, but were phased in as existing parts were used up and new machinery was put in place. Maybe this was a similar situation in Italy. Thank you so much for all you do!
The made in Italy stamp was put on the rifle after the war, they do that because the gun laws in Europe require that stamp on the guns, that means that the rifle was in another country probably England before it made it to the US The reason the barrel flats were changed, was to simplify production processes to save time and money.
@@mackshackgabe I think DK is charging $10 less and includes an en-bloc clip. But I don't know if DK offers hand-select. I ordered three a month ago from Classic and all were in decent shape. If these are all coming from the same import batch I would order from DK without any concerns about condition. In fact, I would have preferred to order from them anyways after the good experience I had ordering my TS's, but Classic got the cavalry versions in stock first.
I own a 1939 Torino Carcano 7.35 I purchased in he early 70's. It came with only one stripper clip and 12 rounds of ammunition; I have never fired it. Is it possible to purchase stripper clips and 7.35 ammunition now? If so, please respond as to the source to contact for purchase.
i think im gonna wait until the other side of the election before i think about milsurp again, i just think almost 300 dollars for essentially a garbage rod is just not worth it...
Well, I'm not exactly sure the election is going to have an effect on milsurp pricing as these are finite and people collect them for interest, historical purposes and perhaps investments so if anything they are only going to go up. Like the say "they ain't makin more of them" - lol. Now ammo pricing, that I can see change after the election - depending of course who wins. As far as "garbage rods" - I disagree. Remember, one mans garbage is another mans treasure...
You have really stepped up at the right place and the right time with respect to Carcanos. Your channel is the go to resource for a new generation of milsurp collectors. I never expected to see milsurps imported again.Thanks for all the info. My new (to me) 91/24 cleaned up nicely. Now, if I could only find some surplus ammo!
The surplus ammo imported 20-30 years ago was in pretty bad shape. If any is left in Italy, I suspect it would also be in bad shape. I don't know if they continued to manufacture it after WW2 when they adopted US/NATO weapons. They may have relied on existing WW2 stash in storage to supply their State Police. Will be interesting to find out if any comes in.
@@Mike-tw1pi There are clips (with presumably accompanying ammunition) dated into at least the 50s. It's likely that they did produce ammo at least until then, probably a few decades after as well, but I suspect post war production numbers were very low and that they mostly used old ammo.
Nice collection
Nice way to spend a Saturday. Good video!
Very Nice Collection !👍
enjoyable video as always. Thank you
Mines a long rifle 6.5x52, looked like no bayonet was ever mounted, and has bent bolt handle, had to order the clips from Germany off ebay, fun gun
Love your collection Mike. I am very interested in the 8mm Carcanos and was wondering if they were safe.
Looking forward to your determination.
Thanks for sharing. I really enjoyed this video. I just got into these and hope to start a collection.
I’ve got a 91 ts variation you don’t have. I have the style where they removed the bottom sling mount and plugged the buttstock placement like yours. But it also has a straight bayonet mount for the standard bayonet instead of the side mounting lug. I thought maybe someone personally did this, but then I noticed several others in that configuration😊. It’s not a cut down rifle as the front nose piece is the type that had the lower sling mount as part of it, originally.
My m38 rifle in 6.5 is a 1940 Terni, it has just the side swivels. Interesting your 1941 Terni has both side and bottom. I suspect that is why the 91/41 was designed with both side and bottom.... they knew they wanted to head in that direction while still making m38's.
Getting one from RTI with no hand guard. So that was how it was issued to the troops. Thanks.
I bought one from Classic Firearms and I’m considering buying one with no hand guard from RTI. How was yours from RTI? Are you happy with it?
@@betweenthebars19 Hi, I love mine. The hand guard from Axisarms need a little wood working. It looks great after cleaning it up.
Nice collection. Even with all the variants that you have I didn't see one like the one I have. Mine has made in Italy on top. Cal 6.5 40-XVlll F.N.A.-BRESCIA and a crown over RE and XF2581. It has no bayonet or attachment and has no handguard on top of any kind, it is open from the sight to the front of the barrel. It also has no front sling point but it has one in the side of the rear. The very end of the forearm has a slot in it so maybe the top guard and sling mount is just missing.
I'd love to get a cleaning rod set for my M38 fucile corto that fits in the stock. I got a repro folding blade bayonet for it.
Where did you get the repro from?
I have 3, i have 2 model i, one thats been sporterized years ago and one stock version. I have an 1891 that i put together in the wrong stock only because i cant find the proper octagon barrel stock. It took me years to get these rifles put together, its a long story. I found these rifles to be made from very good materials but the quality control was pretty poor, I had to do a lot of work to get them to cycle smoothly. The Oswald blunt-nosed ammunition was nearly impossible to cycle smoothly through these rifles, but the newer pointed ammunition slides right through very smoothly. Ive never seen the Carcano ammunition in blunt-nosed and it always made me wonder if Oswald's rifle was loaded with the Arisaka rounds?? Everybody on-line tries testing their Carcano with the wrong ammunition and fails to simply realize that Oswald had the very blunt-nosed rounds😮
Wow, impressive collection and as usual - very informative! I have a question regarding the first example of the 1891 Troop Special. I have a similar model dated 1905 yet on yours, the receiver has "Made in Italy" stamped in English while mine has no stamping at all. Any explanation why it wouldn't be in Italian? Perhaps this is another variant? Also, on the 91TS rear sights and 91 Calvary Carbine bayonets, the push buttons appear to have a composite cover or inlay - is this Bakelite perhaps? Lastly, regarding the "faceted" barrel shank you reference, researching the Mosin Nagant 91/30 "Hex" and "Round" receiver variants, these changes didn’t take place immediately, but were phased in as existing parts were used up and new machinery was put in place. Maybe this was a similar situation in Italy. Thank you so much for all you do!
The made in Italy stamp was put on the rifle after the war, they do that because the gun laws in Europe require that stamp on the guns, that means that the rifle was in another country probably England before it made it to the US The reason the barrel flats were changed, was to simplify production processes to save time and money.
TheKoba49 looking for a cavalry version.....should i go with classic or DK? Who do you think has the better condition batch?
@@mackshackgabe I think DK is charging $10 less and includes an en-bloc clip. But I don't know if DK offers hand-select. I ordered three a month ago from Classic and all were in decent shape. If these are all coming from the same import batch I would order from DK without any concerns about condition. In fact, I would have preferred to order from them anyways after the good experience I had ordering my TS's, but Classic got the cavalry versions in stock first.
Is the side mounted bayonet the one that swings on is that considered a transverse or non transverse bayonet lug. Thank you
My 1938 7.35×51 has no Finland stamp or marking. Is this rare?👍🤙
I own a 1939 Torino Carcano 7.35 I purchased in he early 70's. It came with only one stripper clip and 12 rounds of ammunition; I have never fired it. Is it possible to purchase stripper clips and 7.35 ammunition now? If so, please respond as to the source to contact for purchase.
Lee Oswald
What does a FAT stamp on butt stock mean?
Will the single shot insert work with the 8mm models?
yes I did show it in one of the videos I made
i think im gonna wait until the other side of the election before i think about milsurp again, i just think almost 300 dollars for essentially a garbage rod is just not worth it...
Well, I'm not exactly sure the election is going to have an effect on milsurp pricing as these are finite and people collect them for interest, historical purposes and perhaps investments so if anything they are only going to go up. Like the say "they ain't makin more of them" - lol. Now ammo pricing, that I can see change after the election - depending of course who wins. As far as "garbage rods" - I disagree. Remember, one mans garbage is another mans treasure...
the mag and feed system is iffy if not good clips i have 2 and really there are so many better options