Fun facts: The British argument to the lack of colonial representation in parliament was to say that people in Britain don’t even have representation in parliament so why are they special, coining the term “virtual representation” which was mocked on both sides of the pond The soilders of the Boston massacre were actually put on trial and were defended by the founding father John Adams believing they were acting in self defense Benedict Arnold would actually get injured in the left leg at Saratoga and had it set rather than amputated leaving his left leg 5cm shorter than his right. John Paul jones was buried in a lead coffin filled with alcohol to preserve him Benjamin Franklin wrote a letter to a friend of his explaining why older women (milfs) were better than younger ones, thus making him the first true patriot
I love how the joke was that they would hang Benedict Arnold like the traitor he was but bury his leg with full military honors. And they did make a statue of his leg at the Saratoga battlefield. 😂😂
you wonder how the whole thing had gone with a less arrogant gouvernment/king. Maybe a bit like Canada. He basically handed those who wanted full independence their PR on a silver palte.
Well it's an older phrase, you hear it a lot in like Abraham Lincoln's letter's and whatever but nowaday's you would be hard pressed to have someone say Benedict Arnolds name in any context other then a history book. (I'm from New Jersey btw so I would know)
3:38 Fun fact: The Pope literally drew a line on a map and said "This part of the new world belongs to Spain, and this part belongs to Portugal." And that's why Brazil speaks Portugues, and the rest of South America speaks Spanish.
A fun little tidbit: A story goes that supposedly, the song "Yankee Doodle" came to be used by the British to mock the Americans. And when the war ended, American bands were set up at the ports to specifically play the song as the British boarded their ships. It was believed to be a way of saying "You call us Yankee Doodle? Well Yankee Doodle just kicked your ass."
Given that the pre-war British sentiment did seem to be that the colonists were country hicks who could never understand the heights of civilization of the British Empire, and that "macaroni" really did refer to a kind of clothing decoration in fashion at the time, I think that the song "Yankee Doodle" was invented to mock Americans and the song probably did circulate in the early part of the war simply because that happens even if nobody's trying to make it happen. And the United States has definitely adopted the song to the point there are good odds elementary school children in the country know it by heart.
Not exactly… They were surrendering at Yorktown and dumping their weapons in a pile and marching with the French on one side and Americans on the other. The British were playing “The World Turned Upside Down” and while marching had their heads turned to the French, refusing to make eye contact with the American soldiers. My username sake, the Marquis de Lafayette, got irate with the snubbing of the American soldiers by the British and called out to the American band to play Yankee Doodle and as he did and they started playing the tune the entire line of Brits marching swung their head in unison towards the Americans. Just like how Charles O’hara (General Cornwallis’ second in command) tried presenting his sword to Rochambeau instead of Washington… they were basically embarrassed and didn’t want to be seen as “beaten by Americans”.
Fun fact: John Adam’s, one of the more known founding fathers and second US president, actually defended the British soldiers in court on account of the “Boston Massacre”. despite the political heat going on, he put justice above all else, and knowing how the situation began, he knew the soldiers were innocent.
4:53 Look, just for the record, many people were there. Many different native tribes inhabited what is now the south western US. And many of them are still there. Not pointing this out as a “gotcha” or anything, just that I’ve noticed it’s very easy, especially for those unfamiliar with US history, to forget about the many, many groups of people that inhabited North America before European contact. And even more importantly, forget that they aren’t some players of the past, and are still here, and alive as ever. If anyone wants to know more about pre-columbian American people’s in general, I highly recommend the channel Ancient Americas.
He's still not wrong though that at the time European colonial powers claimed way more land than they could actually realistically enforce their claim and laws on
@@sock2828yeah i think that's what he meant to say. The difference between tribes knowing their local small areas and foreign government unable to actually enforce borders on the already lived on land which was still not properly explored, more or less eyeballed
Fun Fact: British tea was originally not from Britain but from China and was adapted and over time people were convinced that it was a British thing when it’s actually a Chinese thing
And now we know that tea was and still very much is China's thing, while Britain just invented shitty tea. The whole "dry it out and mix it together, then drown it in milk and sugar to cover it up." thing.
Canadian here and this was what we watched in high-school to understand the American Revolution because their separation also started Canada. Love your channel and history over simplified!!❤
FYI, a lot of the info on history they teach to kids in the US include the settling of the Americas by the natives in pre-history, the history of the Native Americans in general and those of the region your state is in, the founding of the United States and state/region specific history depending on where you live. As a Texan, they go into depth about our state's participation in the country's history as well as unique history with other countries like France, Spain and Mexico. We don't learn a whole lot about other countries unless you take a HS course about that specific subject like Russian History, American History, British History, etc. This is all from the perspective of a HS student from the 2000s tho.
As a current HS student the curriculum has definitely expanded, at least in my state. Where I go, you take either civics or APHG freshman year, world history sophomore year(in which you realize that most of the world’s history is actually centered around Asia and Europe really only came into play and prominence much later in human history), and US history junior year, where we learn pretty much everything you described. Senior year you can take APEURO if you want, but it isn’t required.
We did owe the French a lot 41:20 *That’s why we entered two world wars on their side and invaded Vietnam on their request after it revolted from them*
Making the colonists pay for the soldiers refers to the quartering act. A soldier could force any home owners to cloth, house, and feed soldiers. Any refusal, poisoning, or injury results in federal persecution.
To be fair to the Americans at that time, slavery was also still allowed in Britain and it wouldn't be until 1834 with the Slavvery Abolition Act when they themselves got their act together. This didn't apply to the British colonies, however, as slavery was still allowed in the colonoes until 1848. Back across in the US, 20 of the then 34 states had also ended slavery. Thirteen years later, in 1861, was the start of the American Civil War and ended in 1865.
Fun fact: The US was almost named "Columbia" after Christopher Columbus Our first unofficial national anthem was even called "Hail Columbia". The US also almost considered changing it's name to "Freedonia" (Freedom, but Latin sounding) in the late 17-early 1800s.
"just go build a house, just go squat" its a joke, but this thinking nearly sparked the worlds second or third dumbest war etween the UK and US a century later
It was a REALLY thick fogbank, and an unexpected one. If the British had sent people out to scout or try to open fire, they would have no idea who was firing where and on what. Difficult though it also made crossing the river for the new Amerians, I've heard at the time it seemed like divine aid. Oh - and the British Navy was more occupied than you might expect. It isn't usually heavily gone into covering this part of history, but the Americans had privateers who were absolutely raiding cargo ships and could and did pick off isolated warships, so the navy couldn't just sail all their warships into formation and open fire on port towns. They still had to protect both their traders and their own navy ships.
I’ve always wondered, how is the American Revolution not important to the British. Isn’t the beginning of a cascading domino effect that leads to England losing more territory than most countries ever had?
Not really. Most British colonies gained their independence after WW2. The exceptions being those who became Commonwealth countries, like Canada and Australia, who have the British monarch but are independent countries.
And also while “The British are Coming!” is the phrase popularly associated with his ride, he and the other riders more likely said things like “The Regulars are coming!”-they still largely considered themselves British at the time, and saw their issue as with an over-zealous Parliament disconnected from how things were on the ground under these taxes and occupations. So it wasn’t meaningful to say “British folks headed this way” but it did to say the Frickin’ Regular (ie Professional) Army was!
Em the netherlands france and spain? Plus britain having other colonies you know india was way more valuable to britain than the américas right?? Why do you believe India was called the jewel of the crown 😂😂😂b
Pummelled? Even though ypu barely won because of the French, Spanish and Dutch help? Not to mention Brits just decided it's not worth sending more troops. If it wasn't for the French, it would have been over alot quicker in the Brits favour. So much for Pummelled 😂
@Gmackematix exactly, not to mention they were saved by the French, Spanish and Dutch. And still barely won and that was only because we decided to just leave it. If we sent the full force they were fucked. They say we lost to "farmers" without knowing the truth they were baby sat by other countries sums up the US
@@liammbiscwit This video really over emphasizes just how much help the French provided (which was mostly supplies not men) though it was definitely a crucial turning point and did play a big part. The Spanish and Dutch involvement on the other hand was negligible and barely warranted mentioning. They didn't actually physically do much, rather they expressed sentiment that they were rooting for the Americans, which added to the political pressure on England's parliament. The British lost because the king fired their experienced and competent general at the beginning of the war after the high casualties at bunker hill and let Howe run the show (Howe's skillset included drinking, bragging about himself, and absolutely nothing else. Top five biggest dumbasses in history). Cornwallis was Howe's most notable subordinate officer and did his best to actually fight but didn't have the authority to overturn Howe's poor decisions. As far as the argument that Britain could have won if they sent the whole army with the big guns --- they did. Remember all the talk about how England was broke through all this? They sent almost 3/4 of their military to America and still lost. Also more time should be spent talking about how much John Paul Jones and his fellow naval commanders hampered those efforts because a lot of what the British tried to send got intercepted or retreated back to England. England did get pummeled, and they continue to claim "it just wasn't worth the hassle" because copium. The entire country was on the verge of collapse if they hadn't signed the peace treaty and gotten America to agree to pay off the debt. The reason the British don't cover the American revolution in school is because in England it is illegal for teachers to include discussion of any war that Britain has lost in their official curriculum. So yes, I know the truth, and the truth is that you lost to famers. Keep seething.
You can't look at those times from our modern perspective.. It absolutely makes no sense. If you and I were born in this time.. We wouldn't be different. It were harder and more brutal times but goddammit the people were truly honest and had a sense of honor. In this modern world.. All of our dignity is lost.. Just the Materialism matters. Back then.. It was different.. People would place the own blood or god before something material.
I saw this comment somewhere and posted in before. I'm not sure how accurate it is on everything but it's a good read Because much of the fighting in the Seven Years War was in North America, the Members of Parliament were reminded of the existence of the colonies. Up until then most of Parliament simply gave the colonies no thought. And the colonies had been thriving due to that benign neglect. As others have stated, there was a tax issue. In general, the serious taxpayers in Britain were Members of Parliament. They had to be; they were the ones with the money. They were looking for other revenue sources, and they hit on the idea of taxing the colonists. The problem was, at this time everyone in Britain thought of wealth in terms of species; that is, gold or silver coins. But due to Parliament’s own previous policies, there was very little space in the American colonies; most transactions were a combination of barter and credit. Some colonies issued limited paper currency, which basically made the barter-and-credit economy a bit more convenient. To make matters worse, the colonial governments had gone into debt during the war, and they were already collecting local taxes (in specie) to repay the debts. Thus the new taxes from Parliament hit when the colonies had an even worse than usual cash shortage. It is interesting that Mr. Hanover (a.k.a. George III) privately observed just this problem with the Stamp Act, but publicly he did nothing about it. What Parliament ought to have done was to assume the colonies’ war debt, and then tax the colonies for repayment but accept barter/credit/ colonial paper currency. It would have been cumbersome and time-consuming for the British government to convert goods to cash, but it would have been taxation in a form the colonists could actually have paid. Indeed, by eliminating the need to find rare species Parliament would have been praised by most colonists. In hindsight, we can see the souring of relations starting in 1763, but in reality, things had basically been worked out until the tea crisis of late 1774. That was caused by both sides’ escalating overreactions. *taken from some guy on quota In regards to Washington's leadership, we have to remember that the Americans were fighting a much better trained, much larger Army with much more supplies.
When Howe came through Maryland to get to Philadelphia he tried sneaking by my home town of Havre de Grace, a solder shot a cannon at them, they still have the cannon and built the whole town around it. Its also named after a French town.
26:13 The French Foreign Legion are technically modern mercenaries. They are a French army made up of foreigners (who would have guessed). By the end of their tough and harsh training soldiers have the option to change their identity and become someone else. So mercenaries still exist but to the extent of what they were back then.
We learned in U.S. history that no-one knows which side fired the first shot at Lexington which is now infamously called "The shot heard round the world."
Nobody in the western world (not even Napoleon) had heard of the tactics of the Japanese Lord Oda Nobunaga regarding early firearms. 3 rows; one firing, one reloading, and one ready. And rotating each time.
Because that isn't effective at scale. You would need 3 guns per man firing. Vs just having 3 extra men firing on the line. 30 men firing continuously vs a line fire of 60 (same number of men) or 90 (same number of guns) Absolutely destroys that tactic. Your talking DPM vs Alpha Striking. And Alpha Striking was way better.
No because it really wasn't that important to us, we lost to the French not to you. And also we gained better territories like India after losing the American colonies.
Prior to 1800 or so, it was possible to be an expert on pretty much everything at once it you could afford the education. After that, advances in the way research was conducted (and the booming population) made it necessary to specialize. If you're looking for somebody who is respected for both their scientific knowledge and civic contributions in the present day, Noam Chomsky might be a good candidate.
@@The_One_In_BlackHe very much is respected for his scientific contributions, just look at his study citations(not to mention, his real life psychiatric patients).
@@SeanWinters Yeah, his citations aren't particularly impressive. They're not bad, but not not to the point of being a leader in his field, especially given that he works in a field that tends to inflate citations.
@@The_One_In_Black It seems as though it would be impossible to meet whatever standard you're using, considering the outright hostility amongst the academic elites towards anyone cast with the scarlet letter, C, for conservative. So especially considering his popularity in furthering his findings and encouragement of laymen to become interested in his field (essentially what brings Dyson into this conversation), and considering the biases against conservative academics, I'd very much say Peterson is as close as one could get to a right counterpart to Chomsky (I'll be frank and admit, without googling it, I have no clue what Chomsky even studies, I just know his name and his political bent).
@@SeanWinters I just looked at his h-index, which is around 60. Chomsky by comparison is over 190, and most people I would think of as leaders in their area in psychology are over 80. 60 is not a bad target to aim for, but it's pretty middling for a well-known academic 30+ years into their career.
Folklore says that Paul Revere said “the British are coming” but that’s likely not factual because they still considered themselves British at the time. But warned he did.
React to the American civil war. You were commenting on how small casualties were back then. The civil war happened like 80 years after this and more than 700,000 people died. One of the bloodiest wars in modern history until WW1 and WW2
About that island... you generally circled the Hudson Bay, and if you keep going North there's an actual island that people only give a fuck about because it's funny. Denmark and Canada both claim it and they both pull each other's flag down and leave alcohol for each other. Because it's hilarious and nobody actually cares.
Some of these military failures remind me of how differently, Sun Tzu's Art of War had strategies that seem pretty obvious to people nowadays, but at the time they were considered really clever
Military thinking is going to depend a lot both on logistics and on the actual goals of the commanders. You might be surprised the amount of human history over which the point of a war usually wasn't to win it.
20:48 No, of course the Americans didn't shoot at the retreating British. The Americans had a limited amount of ammunition. They had to conserve it. There was no point wasting ammunition on a retreating foe. They had to save that ammo for the British counterattack.
I wouldn't really say Bill Nye is that big of a thinker. He doesn't rrally discover anything that he talks about, he more communicates the discoveries of the scientists that study the topic. And Neil deGrasse Tyson is ridiculously smart when it comes to astrophysics, but you shouldn't trust him when it comes to pretty much anything else. I'm not really sure we have any specific genuises of our time because most of our accomplishments are collaborative, and not just one person. We focus more on the groups of people involved in projects than an individual that participated. The woman who took a picture of a black hole would definitely be on the list if there really was one.
Tbh all I’m seeing is more details from Hamilton Act 1 and my brain keeps playing the soundtrack. I get excited at the little things that were mentioned in the musical.
a note about christopher columbus saying he went on a huge murder spree is only part of that story as it goes, he encountered a native tribe that apparently had warned him about another group of people. the first tribe that he came across was reportedly incredibly passive and the group he was warned about were supposedly violent cannibals. after spending some time away from the area, columbus reportedly returned to the area to find it sacked by the cannibal tribe and the passive denizens he had encountered had seemingly been completely annihilated after which columbus supposedly hunted down as many of the cannibals as he could find and killed them. if there were any survivors of either tribe afterward, they almost certainly died of european illnesses that columbus and his men brought with them to the islands
I didn’t know people learned little to nothing about the American revolution but not because I’m American and expect everyone to know my history (dumb stereotype on Americans honestly and I wish people would drop it. Most of us are aware many don’t indulge in our culture and we don’t expect anyone to) but because from my understanding, the American revolution sent a wave of events through the world that took place. Such as inspiring the French revolution, which in turn resulted in the napoleonic wars which was france vs damn near all of Europe.
As far as the oyster shells, he didn't explain that well, they didn't just throw oyseter shells, they put broken shells into snowballs, and broken up shells can be very, very sharp, in fact, oyster shells have been used in the past (with some modifications) to shave with
Fun fact, the battle of cowpens was won by pretending to run away and theres a really sharp turn at cowpens where once the british turned, all the troops they thought had run away into the woods were waiting for them and the british proceeded to be shot to kingdom come. The british broke ranks to chase the people at cowpens and when the british surrendered, America troops were about to butcher the british shouting "Tarleton's Quarters" a reference to the Butcher's practice of taking no prisoners and killing all surrendering troops, but the general of the continental got them to stop because the americans had the moral high ground accoring to him.
Fun Fact: Despite any depictions by American, there are some sources say that the person in charge of the soldiers during the Boston Massacre ran in front of his soldiers to try to stop them from firing. But the first volley had already been fired before he acted.
Even today, you will find very few American soldiers who don't know what we owe to Baron Von Stuben(probably spelled his name wrong). He taught us how to be soldiers and built the foundation of our entire structure.
60 million pounds at the end of the Seven Years War in 1763 would be about 15 billion pounds today. Oyster shells have sharp, jagged edges. It’s like throwing broken glass. When the British sent 25,000 troops to New York in 1776, that represented 25% of their entire army worldwide.
3:49 And that answers your question: Much like back in Europe, If no one lives there, there is no one to contest your claim of ownership (this only refers to the parts of the continent without settlement by any human. So put down your torches and pitchforks, americans).
I love watching British people learn about American history, its a long-form version of a kid watching a bigger kid clearly cheat at a game and be like "is this allowed?" 😂
Fun facts:
The British argument to the lack of colonial representation in parliament was to say that people in Britain don’t even have representation in parliament so why are they special, coining the term “virtual representation” which was mocked on both sides of the pond
The soilders of the Boston massacre were actually put on trial and were defended by the founding father John Adams believing they were acting in self defense
Benedict Arnold would actually get injured in the left leg at Saratoga and had it set rather than amputated leaving his left leg 5cm shorter than his right.
John Paul jones was buried in a lead coffin filled with alcohol to preserve him
Benjamin Franklin wrote a letter to a friend of his explaining why older women (milfs) were better than younger ones, thus making him the first true patriot
I love how the joke was that they would hang Benedict Arnold like the traitor he was but bury his leg with full military honors. And they did make a statue of his leg at the Saratoga battlefield. 😂😂
you wonder how the whole thing had gone with a less arrogant gouvernment/king. Maybe a bit like Canada.
He basically handed those who wanted full independence their PR on a silver palte.
Also a fun fact for the brittish here, to this day, the name Benedict Arnold is a slang term for traitor in the US. "
I didnt even know that and im merican! Must be am east coast term
@@wastelandlegocheemnope. I just think you've never had to talk about trators before, so you've never heard it
Well it's an older phrase, you hear it a lot in like Abraham Lincoln's letter's and whatever but nowaday's you would be hard pressed to have someone say Benedict Arnolds name in any context other then a history book. (I'm from New Jersey btw so I would know)
That and Trump
@@wastelandlegocheemI’m on the east coast and I’ve never heard it
3:38 Fun fact: The Pope literally drew a line on a map and said "This part of the new world belongs to Spain, and this part belongs to Portugal." And that's why Brazil speaks Portugues, and the rest of South America speaks Spanish.
lol true
Oh they speak portugese? Now i know!
@@wastelandlegocheemGreat. Now you won't anger a Brazilian when you meet one.
A fun little tidbit: A story goes that supposedly, the song "Yankee Doodle" came to be used by the British to mock the Americans. And when the war ended, American bands were set up at the ports to specifically play the song as the British boarded their ships. It was believed to be a way of saying "You call us Yankee Doodle? Well Yankee Doodle just kicked your ass."
Given that the pre-war British sentiment did seem to be that the colonists were country hicks who could never understand the heights of civilization of the British Empire, and that "macaroni" really did refer to a kind of clothing decoration in fashion at the time, I think that the song "Yankee Doodle" was invented to mock Americans and the song probably did circulate in the early part of the war simply because that happens even if nobody's trying to make it happen. And the United States has definitely adopted the song to the point there are good odds elementary school children in the country know it by heart.
So... another tasked failed successfully?
Yankee doodle went to town riding on a pony he put a feather in his hat and called it macaroni Yankee doodle Keep it up Yankee doodle dandy.
Not exactly…
They were surrendering at Yorktown and dumping their weapons in a pile and marching with the French on one side and Americans on the other. The British were playing “The World Turned Upside Down” and while marching had their heads turned to the French, refusing to make eye contact with the American soldiers.
My username sake, the Marquis de Lafayette, got irate with the snubbing of the American soldiers by the British and called out to the American band to play Yankee Doodle and as he did and they started playing the tune the entire line of Brits marching swung their head in unison towards the Americans.
Just like how Charles O’hara (General Cornwallis’ second in command) tried presenting his sword to Rochambeau instead of Washington… they were basically embarrassed and didn’t want to be seen as “beaten by Americans”.
It was Lafayette who played it to the British troops as they were surrendering, Americans are too lame to think of that.
Fun fact: John Adam’s, one of the more known founding fathers and second US president, actually defended the British soldiers in court on account of the “Boston Massacre”. despite the political heat going on, he put justice above all else, and knowing how the situation began, he knew the soldiers were innocent.
4:53 Look, just for the record, many people were there. Many different native tribes inhabited what is now the south western US. And many of them are still there.
Not pointing this out as a “gotcha” or anything, just that I’ve noticed it’s very easy, especially for those unfamiliar with US history, to forget about the many, many groups of people that inhabited North America before European contact. And even more importantly, forget that they aren’t some players of the past, and are still here, and alive as ever.
If anyone wants to know more about pre-columbian American people’s in general, I highly recommend the channel Ancient Americas.
He's still not wrong though that at the time European colonial powers claimed way more land than they could actually realistically enforce their claim and laws on
@@sock2828yeah i think that's what he meant to say. The difference between tribes knowing their local small areas and foreign government unable to actually enforce borders on the already lived on land which was still not properly explored, more or less eyeballed
Fun Fact: British tea was originally not from Britain but from China and was adapted and over time people were convinced that it was a British thing when it’s actually a Chinese thing
And now we know that tea was and still very much is China's thing, while Britain just invented shitty tea. The whole "dry it out and mix it together, then drown it in milk and sugar to cover it up." thing.
Truly must everything be made in China😂
@@stubbystudios9811yaha
Like the fine china imported everywhere
Pat... this isn't the American Civil War
Don’t worry we’ll get to it
He’s British it’s close enough
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Same thing
Do you guys think the American Revolution counts as a 'civil war' between the 13 Colonies & Great Britain?
Canadian here and this was what we watched in high-school to understand the American Revolution because their separation also started Canada. Love your channel and history over simplified!!❤
FYI, a lot of the info on history they teach to kids in the US include the settling of the Americas by the natives in pre-history, the history of the Native Americans in general and those of the region your state is in, the founding of the United States and state/region specific history depending on where you live. As a Texan, they go into depth about our state's participation in the country's history as well as unique history with other countries like France, Spain and Mexico. We don't learn a whole lot about other countries unless you take a HS course about that specific subject like Russian History, American History, British History, etc. This is all from the perspective of a HS student from the 2000s tho.
As a current HS student the curriculum has definitely expanded, at least in my state. Where I go, you take either civics or APHG freshman year, world history sophomore year(in which you realize that most of the world’s history is actually centered around Asia and Europe really only came into play and prominence much later in human history), and US history junior year, where we learn pretty much everything you described. Senior year you can take APEURO if you want, but it isn’t required.
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We did owe the French a lot 41:20
*That’s why we entered two world wars on their side and invaded Vietnam on their request after it revolted from them*
That's not why, no.
No it isn’t? It literally had nothing to do with that?
Fun fact, taxation without representation is still very much a thing in America
True, i dont thibk the solution is making DC a state tho, A state thats just a city is dumb, i say just give DC to Maryland
@@omalleycaboose5937 not just DC but that is a great example of
Yes, but now it's "taxation, but the government gaslights you into thinking you're represented so you don't question it."
@@omalleycaboose5937 a city with a greater population than both Wyoming and vermont
Those territories should vote for independence or statehood then.
Yakuza 0 has a Substory that shows pretty well how taxes are gradually added to test what they can get away with.
So Majima caused the American Revolution, got it
Making the colonists pay for the soldiers refers to the quartering act.
A soldier could force any home owners to cloth, house, and feed soldiers. Any refusal, poisoning, or injury results in federal persecution.
Patterz, you should totally do other Oversimplified videos, they are all brilliant
To be fair to the Americans at that time, slavery was also still allowed in Britain and it wouldn't be until 1834 with the Slavvery Abolition Act when they themselves got their act together. This didn't apply to the British colonies, however, as slavery was still allowed in the colonoes until 1848.
Back across in the US, 20 of the then 34 states had also ended slavery. Thirteen years later, in 1861, was the start of the American Civil War and ended in 1865.
"Benedict Arnold sounds like a villain's name." Reading ahead in the book, are ya?
"Sounds like America owes the French a lot"
After WW1 and WW2 id say we're even lol
Fun fact: The US was almost named "Columbia" after Christopher Columbus Our first unofficial national anthem was even called "Hail Columbia". The US also almost considered changing it's name to "Freedonia" (Freedom, but Latin sounding) in the late 17-early 1800s.
Huh, neat
Yes mercinaries still exist you mainly send them on secret near illegal or illegal missions, becauseb hen you can say "but it wasnt us it was them"
"just go build a house, just go squat" its a joke, but this thinking nearly sparked the worlds second or third dumbest war etween the UK and US a century later
The pig war?
@@Flow-Rez420the pig war!
9:04
no, it's not illegal, it's just taxable
Chat quote: "Slavery is not poggers"
True words
It was a REALLY thick fogbank, and an unexpected one. If the British had sent people out to scout or try to open fire, they would have no idea who was firing where and on what. Difficult though it also made crossing the river for the new Amerians, I've heard at the time it seemed like divine aid.
Oh - and the British Navy was more occupied than you might expect. It isn't usually heavily gone into covering this part of history, but the Americans had privateers who were absolutely raiding cargo ships and could and did pick off isolated warships, so the navy couldn't just sail all their warships into formation and open fire on port towns. They still had to protect both their traders and their own navy ships.
I’ve always wondered, how is the American Revolution not important to the British. Isn’t the beginning of a cascading domino effect that leads to England losing more territory than most countries ever had?
That's probably the reason they don't teach it if I had to guess.
I guess for the same reason Japanese schools don't talk about their part in world war 2
Not really. Most British colonies gained their independence after WW2. The exceptions being those who became Commonwealth countries, like Canada and Australia, who have the British monarch but are independent countries.
You lose one colony in a bloody revolt, you lose them all
Well, america really pushed for decolonization after ww2@@absollum
Says hes watching the american civil war: doesnt watch the american civil war
he changed the title.
Clearly this means he’s reacting to the Civil War next.
It's a civil war because it was british colonists fighting british soldiers
@@cleverman383 Then that would be considered a BRITISH civil war, not an American one.
@@Dragoncurse4it’s not a British civil war though
Paul Revere did ride but he didn't get very far and got caught. 2 other people who's names I don't remember were actually successful
And also while “The British are Coming!” is the phrase popularly associated with his ride, he and the other riders more likely said things like “The Regulars are coming!”-they still largely considered themselves British at the time, and saw their issue as with an over-zealous Parliament disconnected from how things were on the ground under these taxes and occupations. So it wasn’t meaningful to say “British folks headed this way” but it did to say the Frickin’ Regular (ie Professional) Army was!
@@IONATVSthe regulars are coming sounds cooler too.
I think the British don't cover the American Revolution a lot because Britain got pummeled LMAO
Em the netherlands france and spain? Plus britain having other colonies you know india was way more valuable to britain than the américas right?? Why do you believe India was called the jewel of the crown 😂😂😂b
Pummelled? Even though ypu barely won because of the French, Spanish and Dutch help? Not to mention Brits just decided it's not worth sending more troops. If it wasn't for the French, it would have been over alot quicker in the Brits favour.
So much for Pummelled 😂
If by pummeled you mean we left it because it wasn't worth the hassle. 😉
@Gmackematix exactly, not to mention they were saved by the French, Spanish and Dutch. And still barely won and that was only because we decided to just leave it. If we sent the full force they were fucked.
They say we lost to "farmers" without knowing the truth they were baby sat by other countries sums up the US
@@liammbiscwit This video really over emphasizes just how much help the French provided (which was mostly supplies not men) though it was definitely a crucial turning point and did play a big part. The Spanish and Dutch involvement on the other hand was negligible and barely warranted mentioning. They didn't actually physically do much, rather they expressed sentiment that they were rooting for the Americans, which added to the political pressure on England's parliament. The British lost because the king fired their experienced and competent general at the beginning of the war after the high casualties at bunker hill and let Howe run the show (Howe's skillset included drinking, bragging about himself, and absolutely nothing else. Top five biggest dumbasses in history). Cornwallis was Howe's most notable subordinate officer and did his best to actually fight but didn't have the authority to overturn Howe's poor decisions.
As far as the argument that Britain could have won if they sent the whole army with the big guns --- they did. Remember all the talk about how England was broke through all this? They sent almost 3/4 of their military to America and still lost. Also more time should be spent talking about how much John Paul Jones and his fellow naval commanders hampered those efforts because a lot of what the British tried to send got intercepted or retreated back to England. England did get pummeled, and they continue to claim "it just wasn't worth the hassle" because copium. The entire country was on the verge of collapse if they hadn't signed the peace treaty and gotten America to agree to pay off the debt.
The reason the British don't cover the American revolution in school is because in England it is illegal for teachers to include discussion of any war that Britain has lost in their official curriculum.
So yes, I know the truth, and the truth is that you lost to famers. Keep seething.
You can't look at those times from our modern perspective.. It absolutely makes no sense. If you and I were born in this time.. We wouldn't be different.
It were harder and more brutal times but goddammit the people were truly honest and had a sense of honor.
In this modern world.. All of our dignity is lost.. Just the Materialism matters.
Back then.. It was different.. People would place the own blood or god before something material.
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That was in the epic of Gilgamesh
Close enough lmao
I saw this comment somewhere and posted in before. I'm not sure how accurate it is on everything but it's a good read
Because much of the fighting in the Seven Years War was in North America, the Members of Parliament were reminded of the existence of the colonies. Up until then most of Parliament simply gave the colonies no thought. And the colonies had been thriving due to that benign neglect. As others have stated, there was a tax issue. In general, the serious taxpayers in Britain were Members of Parliament. They had to be; they were the ones with the money. They were looking for other revenue sources, and they hit on the idea of taxing the colonists. The problem was, at this time everyone in Britain thought of wealth in terms of species; that is, gold or silver coins. But due to Parliament’s own previous policies, there was very little space in the American colonies; most transactions were a combination of barter and credit. Some colonies issued limited paper currency, which basically made the barter-and-credit economy a bit more convenient. To make matters worse, the colonial governments had gone into debt during the war, and they were already collecting local taxes (in specie) to repay the debts. Thus the new taxes from Parliament hit when the colonies had an even worse than usual cash shortage. It is interesting that Mr. Hanover (a.k.a. George III) privately observed just this problem with the Stamp Act, but publicly he did nothing about it. What Parliament ought to have done was to assume the colonies’ war debt, and then tax the colonies for repayment but accept barter/credit/ colonial paper currency. It would have been cumbersome and time-consuming for the British government to convert goods to cash, but it would have been taxation in a form the colonists could actually have paid. Indeed, by eliminating the need to find rare species Parliament would have been praised by most colonists. In hindsight, we can see the souring of relations starting in 1763, but in reality, things had basically been worked out until the tea crisis of late 1774. That was caused by both sides’ escalating overreactions.
*taken from some guy on quota
In regards to Washington's leadership, we have to remember that the Americans were fighting a much better trained, much larger Army with much more supplies.
Woah woah woah. Pineapple is amazing
I low key got upset when he said that
When Howe came through Maryland to get to Philadelphia he tried sneaking by my home town of Havre de Grace, a solder shot a cannon at them, they still have the cannon and built the whole town around it. Its also named after a French town.
Big kudos to your chat for making me laugh several times during this video.
The dry humor and commentary from them was fantastic. 😁
there were no Geneva Conventions in the 1700s. They weren't adopted until much later
He is talking about modern day mercs
Patterz: check
Oversimplified: check
Me: COWABUNGA IT IS!
26:13 The French Foreign Legion are technically modern mercenaries. They are a French army made up of foreigners (who would have guessed). By the end of their tough and harsh training soldiers have the option to change their identity and become someone else. So mercenaries still exist but to the extent of what they were back then.
It's not that we don't have any more fine thinkers, it's that there's so many scholars that there's hardly any sense in keeping track of all of them.
Also that we're more focused on the groups of people than individuals because scientists collaborate on the big things that have more room for error.
If you ever see a boo, called give me liberty it explains this very well
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I really like Pat doesn't skip the ads but just improves them.
We learned in U.S. history that no-one knows which side fired the first shot at Lexington which is now infamously called "The shot heard round the world."
Nobody in the western world (not even Napoleon) had heard of the tactics of the Japanese Lord Oda Nobunaga regarding early firearms.
3 rows; one firing, one reloading, and one ready. And rotating each time.
Because that isn't effective at scale. You would need 3 guns per man firing. Vs just having 3 extra men firing on the line. 30 men firing continuously vs a line fire of 60 (same number of men) or 90 (same number of guns) Absolutely destroys that tactic. Your talking DPM vs Alpha Striking. And Alpha Striking was way better.
3:50 Errr Pat, you just described land surveying... and yes, people did go to such remote places because it was their JOB.
15:20 “green mountain boys” comes from Vermont- french for Green Mountain.
At 8:30 the guy you’re thinking of is Gilgamesh of Sumaria
Arnold be playing on both sides.
They don't teach it because, they LOST, wich led others to follow suit.
No because it really wasn't that important to us, we lost to the French not to you. And also we gained better territories like India after losing the American colonies.
You are fighting for your life in these comments, the war ended over 200 years ago lil bro get over it
Prior to 1800 or so, it was possible to be an expert on pretty much everything at once it you could afford the education. After that, advances in the way research was conducted (and the booming population) made it necessary to specialize. If you're looking for somebody who is respected for both their scientific knowledge and civic contributions in the present day, Noam Chomsky might be a good candidate.
I thought for a second that Peterson might be the right-wing equivalent, but I don't think he's actually respected for his science.
@@The_One_In_BlackHe very much is respected for his scientific contributions, just look at his study citations(not to mention, his real life psychiatric patients).
@@SeanWinters Yeah, his citations aren't particularly impressive. They're not bad, but not not to the point of being a leader in his field, especially given that he works in a field that tends to inflate citations.
@@The_One_In_Black It seems as though it would be impossible to meet whatever standard you're using, considering the outright hostility amongst the academic elites towards anyone cast with the scarlet letter, C, for conservative. So especially considering his popularity in furthering his findings and encouragement of laymen to become interested in his field (essentially what brings Dyson into this conversation), and considering the biases against conservative academics, I'd very much say Peterson is as close as one could get to a right counterpart to Chomsky (I'll be frank and admit, without googling it, I have no clue what Chomsky even studies, I just know his name and his political bent).
@@SeanWinters I just looked at his h-index, which is around 60. Chomsky by comparison is over 190, and most people I would think of as leaders in their area in psychology are over 80. 60 is not a bad target to aim for, but it's pretty middling for a well-known academic 30+ years into their career.
Folklore says that Paul Revere said “the British are coming” but that’s likely not factual because they still considered themselves British at the time. But warned he did.
React to the American civil war. You were commenting on how small casualties were back then. The civil war happened like 80 years after this and more than 700,000 people died. One of the bloodiest wars in modern history until WW1 and WW2
About that island... you generally circled the Hudson Bay, and if you keep going North there's an actual island that people only give a fuck about because it's funny. Denmark and Canada both claim it and they both pull each other's flag down and leave alcohol for each other. Because it's hilarious and nobody actually cares.
Some of these military failures remind me of how differently, Sun Tzu's Art of War had strategies that seem pretty obvious to people nowadays, but at the time they were considered really clever
Military thinking is going to depend a lot both on logistics and on the actual goals of the commanders. You might be surprised the amount of human history over which the point of a war usually wasn't to win it.
1:03 not me watching this during Columbus Day weekend 😂
20:48 No, of course the Americans didn't shoot at the retreating British. The Americans had a limited amount of ammunition. They had to conserve it. There was no point wasting ammunition on a retreating foe. They had to save that ammo for the British counterattack.
The big thinkers of our time are Neil deGrasse Tyson, Bill Nye, and Stephen Hawkins (may he rest in peace)
I wouldn't really say Bill Nye is that big of a thinker. He doesn't rrally discover anything that he talks about, he more communicates the discoveries of the scientists that study the topic. And Neil deGrasse Tyson is ridiculously smart when it comes to astrophysics, but you shouldn't trust him when it comes to pretty much anything else. I'm not really sure we have any specific genuises of our time because most of our accomplishments are collaborative, and not just one person. We focus more on the groups of people involved in projects than an individual that participated. The woman who took a picture of a black hole would definitely be on the list if there really was one.
Tbh all I’m seeing is more details from Hamilton Act 1 and my brain keeps playing the soundtrack. I get excited at the little things that were mentioned in the musical.
2:59 Pat commented on this video 5 years ago
pre-watched! (I saw this too and was hoping he'd comment on it)
a note about christopher columbus
saying he went on a huge murder spree is only part of that story
as it goes, he encountered a native tribe that apparently had warned him about another group of people. the first tribe that he came across was reportedly incredibly passive and the group he was warned about were supposedly violent cannibals. after spending some time away from the area, columbus reportedly returned to the area to find it sacked by the cannibal tribe and the passive denizens he had encountered had seemingly been completely annihilated after which columbus supposedly hunted down as many of the cannibals as he could find and killed them. if there were any survivors of either tribe afterward, they almost certainly died of european illnesses that columbus and his men brought with them to the islands
I didn’t know people learned little to nothing about the American revolution but not because I’m American and expect everyone to know my history (dumb stereotype on Americans honestly and I wish people would drop it. Most of us are aware many don’t indulge in our culture and we don’t expect anyone to) but because from my understanding, the American revolution sent a wave of events through the world that took place. Such as inspiring the French revolution, which in turn resulted in the napoleonic wars which was france vs damn near all of Europe.
26:42 there are so many mercenaries now!!! Black water is a big one
Everytime he says "no one's there" im just crying for the natives
“Am I American?” 😂😂😂
Hamilton gave me some knowledge abiut the American Revolution
As far as the oyster shells, he didn't explain that well, they didn't just throw oyseter shells, they put broken shells into snowballs, and broken up shells can be very, very sharp, in fact, oyster shells have been used in the past (with some modifications) to shave with
You don't learn it in school, because it's a British defeat, that's all. The British have selective memories, it saves them from suffering.
Fun fact, the battle of cowpens was won by pretending to run away and theres a really sharp turn at cowpens where once the british turned, all the troops they thought had run away into the woods were waiting for them and the british proceeded to be shot to kingdom come.
The british broke ranks to chase the people at cowpens and when the british surrendered, America troops were about to butcher the british shouting "Tarleton's Quarters" a reference to the Butcher's practice of taking no prisoners and killing all surrendering troops, but the general of the continental got them to stop because the americans had the moral high ground accoring to him.
12:02 when that guy in chat said Mr Beast I almost choked on my gum 😭
Bendict Arnold is a traitor here.
This was a great video to watch at 4am
Hey patters I have a quick question WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER
27:20 you mean the Geneva suggestion?
Fun Fact: Despite any depictions by American, there are some sources say that the person in charge of the soldiers during the Boston Massacre ran in front of his soldiers to try to stop them from firing. But the first volley had already been fired before he acted.
I still need patterz to do the Achievement Hunter Fake English Slang videos because i think he'd appreciate those.
8:25 I don't know about in real life but there was a law like that in a song of ice and fire books called First night
Even today, you will find very few American soldiers who don't know what we owe to Baron Von Stuben(probably spelled his name wrong). He taught us how to be soldiers and built the foundation of our entire structure.
Please more reactions to oversimplified 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Fun fact, even to this day, someone who is traitor is sometimes called a Benedict Arnold
Oyster shells can be sharp, yes, but throwing oysters, especially rotten ones, was the 1700's Boston equivalent of flipping the bird at someone.
26:01 I’m offended. How dare you be so correct.
I love patterrz too much
Is it funny that in my history class we actually watch this video for a lesson about the American revolution
21:50 „Equal rights for everyone! Except: women, indigenous people, slaves, non whites in general, poor people and the list goes on“
“And I mean _white_ whites, so no Irish, Polish, or Italians. Y’know what? Not even whites. Nobody gets any rights.
Ah, America.”
To the brittish, tea may be worth 5 lives,but to americans, its just another beverage
fun fact: thomas Jefferson did want freedom for EVERYONE, but was forced to revise due to the overwhelming support of slavery
The wife law is from the story of gilgamesh
You should watch the pig war video since he basically is talking about the American/British boarder after the revolutionary war
Jefferson wanted to write to free the slaves; However, he didn't want the southern state to separate
Foreshadow Jefferson
Patterz you should react to the war of the bucket by oversimplified!
7:21 am i american? 😂 had me dying just
We have Neil DeGrass Tyson as our current smart thinker
60 million pounds at the end of the Seven Years War in 1763 would be about 15 billion pounds today. Oyster shells have sharp, jagged edges. It’s like throwing broken glass. When the British sent 25,000 troops to New York in 1776, that represented 25% of their entire army worldwide.
3:49
And that answers your question:
Much like back in Europe, If no one lives there, there is no one to contest your claim of ownership (this only refers to the parts of the continent without settlement by any human. So put down your torches and pitchforks, americans).
I love watching British people learn about American history, its a long-form version of a kid watching a bigger kid clearly cheat at a game and be like "is this allowed?" 😂
5:00 that circle is literally Denver 😂
Why does pat feel like a British me?
The “give your wife you a “british/engilish man” was the Scottish
My teacher played this video in our class and it was great 😂
You couldn’t just settle anywhere on the American continent without the risk and constant fear of Indian ambush
27:50 “there is a horse on that boat “ count again there is more than one
They don’t mention it but apparently there were many people against the revolution who wanted to stay part of the British Empire