Ford Puma ST review! A pointless crossover?!
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2021
- In this video I review the all new Ford Puma ST. A car I wasn’t a big fan of when it was first announced....But does it live up to the hype? Does it make sense? Let’s find out!
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FYI at the start of the video when I mention the Ford Puma first being released, I was talking about this new variant. This video makes no reference to the original Puma as for me, this new one is a completely different car albeit with the same name. I wasn’t a huge fan of the original Puma to be honest with the exception of the Racing Puma! As always guys, thanks for watching 😊
You made a very good point about the B&O sound system. However, I have to confess I only found the front passenger door card rattling when I received my car from new. I took it back to the dealer and asked them to fix it and to their credit, they did and now even at max volume its brilliant. It does help if you have a particular track with a "mid bass" that demostrates the rattle well, that then prevents them going "Oh we tested it and couldn't hear any rattle". In particular, I would even loop that specific part of a track which causes the rattle and then pan between each of the speakers to demonstrate good vs bad.
Whilst i accept we have semi conductor part shortages, I don't think that excuses Ford missing sound deadening foam from your vehicle!
I have the regular ST-Line-X with the 125 bhp engine and it is very fun to drive. I love the way it looks and it's handling. Awesome effort from Ford.
Great informative vid yet again Gary and great to watch 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Just watched this video again love it after a long wait picking my puma st up next weekend can't wait and mine will have the new performance seats and some other interiors upgrades
Awesome mate! I’m sure you’re going to love it 👌🏻👌🏻
I like it, the original Puma was not a good car, people need to remember that when they look back with rose tinted specs.
Yea the old Puma was a rot box. I did like the racing Puma though.
It was not a good car and it was car of the year by :jeremy in top gear 97... what... comparing the puma with a ferrari...
Yes they were.
They were fantastic handling cars. We're talking about a car from the mid 90's. Also based on a mk4/5 chasis which was one of the best handling fiestas ever made.
Another enjoyable informative and balanced video Gary, Regards from Scotland
Thanks Ian 👍🏻
Absolutely fantastic video mate!
I'm picking my new Puma ST up in 4 days in the Mean Green colour and I CANT wait, especially after watching this!
Thanks and subscribed!!!
Thank you mate!! Hope you enjoy 😊
Long term review - how has it been, too stiff or Ok for fmily life and pitted roads?
And does it feel genuinely quick and whats real world MPG please?
Great review, could tell you liked it a lot! Would definitely consider one of these for the family 👍
Mate it would be great as a compromise if you have a small family but still want the feel of a Fiesta ST!
Got one 😜. Took it round my local race track Snetterton. Was brilliant. Love it.
I can imagine them to be good fun on a track 👌🏻👍🏻
Great review mate! I was a bit like you especially with the looks but the more I see the Puna on the roads the more I like it! If I had the money I'd think I'd go for the Puma ST over the Fiesta ST.
It’s a great alternative if you’re after that little bit of extra practicality 👌🏻
Your exactly right about the sport mode! I've got the focus st and that's what I found that when it's in sport mode you get the feeling all it wants to do at every opportunity is just blast away and it doesn't like slow movements of the steering/throttle which if you try to drive a bit calmer it becomes very twitchy (suppose that's what normal mode is for🤷♂️)
Yea it can be a little unnerving initially if you want to have a bit of a blast on an uneven road, but you get used to it don’t you.
@@CarFocused oh yeah you do get used to it but for a while I thought it was just me because I drive lorries 80% of my driving life and as you can imagine responsive is not something a lorry does so I thought it was me just being over sensitive so I'm glad you picked up on it👍
yooooo, not sure what you need me for! this was great. Look forward to the next one :)
Haha I wouldn’t go that far...
Got the 2023 puma st coming in 2.months time can't wait to see how good this car is, I've only test drove the 2022 model. Be interesting to see some proper reviews for the 2023 model
Great video mate, I can't wait to film with the Puma ST I have!
I’m sure you’re going to love it 😁👌🏻
Thanks for the review, I was really tempted trading my polo GTI in for one of these, but I think I will miss the DSG. Keep up the great work.
If you enjoy your DSG then the chances are you probably would miss it...
If you enjoy your DSG then the chances are you probably would miss it...
The Polo is a suitcase. A small, ugly suitcase.
Nice video mate. I quite like the Puma. I would have one if they were sold in South Africa.
Thank you 😊
I have to admit the Puma looks very nice in black and has grown on me. I was looking at one in the Nottingham Ford dealership while getting my Focus serviced.
They are actually nicer in the flesh aren’t they!
Another very good review in my opinion, not really compromised by the 'make do' approach today. The main issue I have with this vehicle is that it is so expensive (considering how many parts (and therefore economies of scale) are in common with the Fiesta. Like you I really disliked the look of the Puma when it first came out but the looks have grown on me a little. But as it is still a jacked up, heavier small car with a digital dash, IPad stuck to the dash, oversized wheels and with questionable build quality I would give it a pass. I actually have a MK8 Fiesta in my sights in a few years time, which will replace my MK3.5 FoST. Reasons for this include 'proper' handbrake, good economy but with a 'peppy' engine, Analogue dash, reasonably cost effective, not an EV, BHEV, PHEV or SUV, still mildly tuneable with the Mountune goodies. As my wife and I are unlikely to need the extra room this offers I think the Fiesta ST would win for me. It will be interesting to see how long Ford wait before hybridising the Fiesta MK8. I am guessing just a couple more years at most (2023?).
Got a mean green ST with performance pack. Perfect all round car.
Me too. Love it. Been round a race track with it already. Was brilliant.😜
Great review as always mate. A bit odd the rear diffuser is matte black. Not sure what to make of it tbh. Does the higher driving position not dampen the engagement compared to the Fiesta ST? Quite like the look from the front and that blue is a great colour. Wheels look good too - not that I’d go for diamond cut alloys again until they can seal them better.
Thanks Simon - with the seat pumped down you don’t really notice the higher position all that much. As for the diamond cut wheels - time will tell I guess. Thanks for watching as always bud 😊
Good review on the puma st. I really fancy getting one just a bit £££ for me at the moment.👌👍
Discounts out there mate, but in a couple of years prices will be reasonable on the used market 👍🏻
Great video. When the Polo GTI goes back I may consider this
You’ll have to take one for a test drive 😁
Excellent video, especially as you were doing it by yourself. Must have taken ages to make!
Thanks Neil - took a few hours to film!
Great video. My mate has a Focus ST, but it's an obvious boy racer car. The looks of the Puma have really grown on me, so am thinking of one of these...I want the fun and performance, but not the boy racer label.
Thanks mate. Yes, it’s definitely the least ‘chavved up’ ST on the market. They are really good cars too 👌🏻
The left hand side of the rear diffuser just cries out for 2 more exhaust tips to match the right hand side. I know Ford deny an RS version will be coming but surely that diffuser was made with 4 pipes in mind?? (Fingers crossed 🤞🏻🤔)
Haha you never know 😉
The puma is a grower looks wise I also hated it from the start but then I didnt like the original puma until I bought one as a donor car and that grew on me massively (the amazing 1.7 and close ratio box helped), think id still take a fiesta st but then i havnt the family but id deffo take a puma over the focus.
Hi Im mid 40s, our Uk roads are pitted to hell - any suspension compliance or just proper stiff like a Fiesta ST?
I think it would be interesting for you to do a video review on the i20n when its out if you can get your hands on one
Would love to!
@@CarFocused love the look off the i20 n again its a grower could give my st a run for it money
I have the Mk8 Fiesta ST, and I would 1/2 consider the Puma if it wasn’t so ludicrously expensive compared to the Fiesta. As they’re based on the same platform I can appreciate it being priced as a ‘Fiesta Plus’ but it’s almost competing with the Focus, which is bigger and more powerful.
6:24 Has this issue been rectified?
I picked my ST up today, and didn’t notice this problem when I cranked the audio up.
It was, however, an issue in my previous 1.0L Puma.
How you liking it so far, I got the 2023 puma ST coming in 2 months time I can't wait it's a massive upgrade from my current 2007 Honda CRV
To be fair you looked like you had a lot of fun in that car! The extra practicality is always welcome over a fiesta st. But for 29k its only 3k off a focus st with 80bhp more which is also practical and great fun. What would be your pick?
Hard mate as the Focus is a little more grown up and doesn’t quite have the feel of the Fiesta - albeit it’s not far off. The Puma feels very similar to the Fiesta in terms of thrills but actually has a bigger boot than both the Fiesta and the Focus, which is appealing. The Focus would probably edge it for me personally - in full spec form with PP.
@@CarFocused i was genuinely surprised with the extra space under the floor. 80l of space is very useful and helps with make the puma to be more practical than it has any right to be. I will also say you did a spot on job editing this video. It felt old school while still feeling professional throughout
@@johnjackson2349 thank you for the feedback mate 😊
I would have got the Focus ST but I needed the ground clearance so I ended up with the Puma ST. I’ve not been disappointed with it and in Mean Green it looks a little different from the mainstream offerings.
Can i ask you a question. I am considering an ST Ford and considering this Puma ST as its a bit higher and practical. But i am also thinking about the Focus ST. Can i ask what the difference is between this 1.5 and the 2.3 in the Focus. Does this feel significantly slower than the Focus. The good thing is the practicality in terms of ride height and the MPG, but at what sacrifice when compared to the Focus?
Such a shame it’s not available with the 8 speed auto slush box that’s available on the 1.5 3 pot focus. Cracking gearbox for everyday driving and with so many gears your always on the power. I’d have considered one of these if the auto was available :(
They like to keep the ST’s manual, it’s a recipe that tends to work well. But there is an auto version for the Mk4 Focus ST as far as I’m aware.
@@CarFocused aye I have a focus st mk4 manual it’s 2 years old in September and I can’t say I’m enjoying it much day to day anymore and the auto with the same spec new is close to 40k with the rrp hikes over the last 9 months and that’s Tesla model 3 territory. I’m torn
Great video again very informative I just think Ford need 2 stop sticking ST on every make of Ford just like rhe ST line what's that all about I really don't get it
Luckily all of the cars they put an ST badge on are cracking cars to drive 👌🏻
@@CarFocused I suppose so but don't you think there just doing it to too many cars now just so they can sell more because of the badge
Great review mate - nice 1 👌 Looks a really good car but not sure where Ford are coming from with the eye watering price though. That amount of money moves you into the territory of BMW/Audi/Mercedes etc.
It’s till cheaper than the competition believe it or not (other cars in its class)
@@CarFocused Yeah I guess it just depends what car you really want at the end of the day. I’m sure with some haggling you’d be able to get a decent discount atm I’d hope
@@Markyreg yea you can get one like this for £28,300 at 2.6% Apr
Great video just watched it again o was buying a st line x but after a long think I'm getting the puma st now in grey matter .only works out 25 30 pound more per month on a st line x with good spec
Awesome! Merry Christmas!
@@CarFocused merry Christmas 🎅 can't wait I think it's going to have the new ford performance seats in it could be interesting
Not gone for the performance pack this time as the puma is more per month so keeping payment closer to what I'm paying but I guessing it will still be amazing without the it and a good replacement fir my st2
@@andrewmaple9863 I've done exactly the same, ordered a puma st mean green colour just standard no performance pack or extras I don't need to keep price as low as I can on monthly PCP, hope it still handles well an doesn't feel skittish lol, enjoy ur puma st ,mine brand new an delivery expected about sept/Oct this year, 🏴👍👍
@@johnwhite2143 got my puma st now it also without the performance pack but I don't think it needs it it's still amazing car 😀 your love it
Weird that the Puma gets slated for its cabin when it actually has soft touch materials and the t roc has hard scratchy plastic everywhere and is even more expensive
It's actually not as bad as I thought it would be great review
Thank you mate 😊
Great review mate how a car review should be. Not a fan personally am tempted by the fiesta st still.
Thanks mate. I think if you don’t need the extra space then a Fiesta would be the better option. It’s cheaper too 👍🏻
Mega review mate! Props for the upload time 👍 ... Still definietly too nice to the car 🙈
Haha I obviously liked it more than you did 😂 Mate I was meant to hook up with Max but my son had a massive reaction to peanuts so had to go to A&E! So had to cancel and film with my pocket camera later on 🙈 My son if fine though thank god!
@@CarFocused Oh bloody hell! Hope he is good mate .... I don't hate the Puma just too many bones to pick with 🤣
Tbh I had some issues with the interior build quality and how hyper sensitive it is in sport. But overall a good car.
Brilliant,a car for us so called sensible old guys that you can have more practicality,yet still let your inner hooligan out, works for me.
That’s basically this car summed up! I like the way you’ve described it!👍🏻👍🏻
I been lucky enough to drive a puma st amazing car I think the steering feels a bit light than the fiesta st what's your thoughts
It’s very quick and takes some getting used to. I did talk about it during the drive section of this review 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CarFocused I'm going to get a puma st line still don't know if I should pay more for this st what your thoughts?
The engine is great as long as it doesn’t have the now common oil leak after a few thousand miles
What are ford thinking with these,should have made the mk4 Focus RS
Couldn’t agree more. I don’t believe for one second they couldn’t have produced an RS in some form, rather than setting the goal they had and just giving up because they couldn’t reach the desired power/emissions target!!
I don't get the problem. It's a Focus RS underneath that anyway.
the 155hp ST-Line X is enough for me. maybe i should take a turn past the Ford dealer and maybe test drive it because it seems to be really nice car to drive.
Best choise Suzuki Vitara 129 HP plus 14 Wolts 14 HP 5,7 litre 100 km
4X4
Cool little car bro
Yea it’s good fun!
Maybe the puma 155 st line would be better bet ?
Why is that?
@@CarFocused better steering lock and more comfort. Bit I do drive a steering mk8 so probably be OK for me lol
Another quality video as always. The exhaust note of this has surprised me, didn’t think it would sound like that. However, I just can’t get past how ugly this car is even the ST. For me it just wouldn’t be something I get out of and look back at as I walk away. Ford has nothing I’d swap my RS for right now. I just wonder how much of a difference the facelift Focus will look when it lands.
I’m very intrigued on the facelift too...
Nice review. It looks fun to drive but I can’t get past it ugly looks! The only current ford I like the look of is the mustang and I don’t mean that hideous electric thing lol.
Thanks mate - it is a grower when you spend time with it in the flesh - but the front end does take some getting used to 🙈
I just purchased a Fiesta Mk8-5 ST3 two weeks ago, and l find the ride quality is intolerable at times and overly firm and crashes over uneven road surfaces. I actually regret buying it now £29500 =metallic paint. The winter pack should have gone for one of the Puma ST's
I decided on the fiesta mainly because Ford was doing 0% interest over 2 years a stop Gap car... well, it is now 200ps through the front wheels with manual gearbox, which makes pulling away from a standstill embarrassing at times as the little car really struggles for traction god knows what it'll be like in the winter 😮
My Cupra is the same in terms of pulling away, I think a 1.0 Ecoboost Fiesta would beat me away from the lights 😂
Small engine with big power usually means premature rod bearing failure.
Time will tell....
On a BMW yeah
If it was awd it wud be a proper suv.
Great review but can't say I'm a fan 🤢 if I were spending shy of 30k I'd buy a mint focus RS😁
DIY STYLE is the best.
You think?
I like the st but its too expensive and it looks like a kia
Rev counter on the right and speedo on the left - what the actual f*ck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can that be switched?
I absolutely hate this car, but I gotta defend the exhaust tips. I love that ford just throws those honest steel tips on their ST models. I prefer the look on the fiesta/focus ST over the chrome tips you get on a Polo/Golf GTI. Kinda looks aftermarket from factory.
30K FOR A PUMA?!?!
May seem expensive but it’s still cheaper than the competition. Cars are just expensive these days 😢
@@CarFocused yeah I guess, but I thought the fiesta st3 was like 24k. Just confused as to why this is so much more 🤔
@@Hazardous975 yea you’re just paying for a bit more room. It is a bit of a steep price hike!
No thanks, not a fan of high COG cars. If I wanted more internal space than a Fiesta ST, I'd rather buy a Focus ST.
The thing is the Puma has a bigger boot than the Focus and retains that small hatch feeling of the Fiesta ST.
I'm not a fan, I hate the looks & I confess to being confused to the direction Ford are taking. The new Focus is an ugly pig compared to the last model, the Mondeos being discontinued for another ugly crossover & the engine range & drive train options of their current car range makes absolutely no sense.
That’s fair enough Ian. I do agree about the styling - for me the best era was the ‘kinetic design’ era. It’s all been downhill since then. But what I can say is that this little car is certainly fun to drive 😊
@@CarFocusedIMHO Ford need something aesthetically pleasing in their range, they've become obsessed with practicality over style. Cancelling the Mk4 RS won't help either nor will importing lard arses like the Mustang
Another boring bloated crossover car that looks like any other . The Ford range is so limited when you consider the range of models it had in the past. This car sounds like a fart in bottle.
Fart in a bottle 😂😂💨
yes dont like this car they all odd these crossover things like a fiat 500 Plus !
Firstly, crossovers are for confused non car people who want a hatchback but also notice the vast amount of SUV's on our roads (we are now sadly just like them lot across the pond) and feel the need to try and 'fit in'
So for Ford to do a 'sporty' crossover, is a little bit cringey tbh. Who are the target customers? People who have zero intentions of driving quick but want to be seen driving a top of the line model that gives the impression of something they are not?? OAP's who want to upgrade from their four year old Nissan Juke??
It's a bit of a mockery and a slap in the face of the Ford Racing Puma tbh. That car was never quick, but it at least was a hot hatch (when it first came out) and wasn't trying to be three cars in one.
I am an owner of old Fiesta ST (time to replace) and a huge fan of the fast hatchbacks but my wife wants a SUV. Taking into account my financial might ( unable to afford two cars), the Puma ST would probably suit the both sides (everyday drive for my wife and weekend fun for me)