The Final Major World! - Talos Principle 2
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- The Talos Principle 2 Part 14 - everything comes together. All that remains are the gold puzzles, unless if something gets in the way.
Edited by: Dan White and Ben Ranger
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41:38 "The backside of the pyramid looks just like the rest; they weren't hiding anything weird back here. Like a face." This line and what immediately followed it was a hilarious combination.
I wish I understood my studies this fast
I thought they hide a triforce
Peak comedy
Not ready for this series to be over
The time will come. And yes, it will be a sad day.
Fr
Don’t make me think about that 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
None of us are... Tho time is running out whether we like it or not.... I just hope it is later rather than sooner
same. can't wait for the dlc to release
To me, the mechanic of that zone was "think outside the box". Which is also why some of them click super fast and seem way too simple: if you get it, you get it.
Funnily enough, I didn’t manage to beat the first puzzle, started thinking the mechanic of the region was some kind of big meta level and left. Started another level, and couldn’t figure it out either, didn’t understand what the mechanic was or how to beat the level. Then it clicked for me on the third level I went to, and it made me realize I just had to go back to these levels and... well, think outside of the box.
And to limit how far you can think outside of the box, each puzzle is recessed into a crater blocking any sight-lines to the other puzzles. That way, you don't waste time considering cross puzzle ideas.
Although a big meta level would be pretty fun.
It's interesting how an external option can keep you from solving what's in front of you. I spent so long on the first couple Pandora puzzles and gave up cuz I thought they weren't possible yet. As soon as I realized they were self-contained in each area, the solutions came immediately
The fun thing about the last world is it was mainly mechanics I thought the first game would use but then it never did. So it's cool that this game now actually uses them
i figured the "mechanic" was rather that it was using all of the tools in the first game and no new ones (though to be fair it did break this rule once i believe (though it was just a swapper - which to be fair, is a simplification of puzzle structure in TP1))
I think the mechanic is intentional laser blockage.
You either need to set up something that doesn't work at first, then open a beam path remotely,
or you need to set up a way to disrupt beam path, set up functional lasers, then disrupt them remotely.
Tyler at 0:50 : “why would I care if a fan blows me”
Me: well I guess that’s off the table if we ever meet
Editor had the same thought lol
Tyler when he walks into a room with two fans: drops trou “which one of y’all is the upper fan and which one y’all is the lower fan”
ayo@@brotondo2705
Parasocial me dabby
I just wanna point out. At the time I'm writing this you have exactly 69 likes(including mine so im number 69 yeeeeaa hehe boy).... Nice.
The series must go on! The golden puzzles must be great, right?
They are quite difficult
they are what you would expect from the last world basically
Hope can only get you so far. Knowledge is the only real way to know. Me in the shower 15 days ago
yes they are
The Golden Puzzles are great and the extra ending is worth it in my opinion. Also the last time into the Megastructure is fun.
"They weren't hiding anything like a face" a moment later seeing many faces.
I didn't know it was possible for Hermanubis to remain as mayor. In my playthrough, Byron became the mayor.
There is another option actually if you are against progress. Hermanubis is sort of the middle of the road, status quo option.
i ended up having nobody as mayor
There are actually a surprisingly high number of small differences in the final act and cinematics. Just the elections supposedly have 5 different possible outcomes. Most of the differences seem to be affected by various dialogue options chosen throughout the game, interactions in the in-game message boards or how you deal with the Somnodrome. Tyler unfortunately skipped the main Somnodrome sequence entirely, and he probably doesn't interact much with the chats either, so he got the status quo result of the elections.
I, for instance, got Byron as well and I did a bunch more interactions along the way, but on the other hand Yaqut refused to come back to the megastructure with me.
@@keirbhaltair Interesting, I just assumed 3 because I believe there are only 3 steam achievements. Supporting Byron but breaking Yaqut's spirit seems like a weird mix.
I wonder how he even ended up with hermanuris ending. is it because of the dialog he picked before the vtol ride?
Wow, this is my favorite episode in a while! I really love what this game does with its story and worldbuilding. Also, the puzzles in this area felt more interesting to watch. I can't wait to see where this all goes!
the best is yet to come
@@xXxXx-----xXxXx ooh! exciting!
Hey Tyler, just a heads up, there are bonus endings. You're bound for the boring ending, but I hope you'll take the time to find the other endings.
With all due respect their job is to solve puzzles, not to remove any reason why you should play the game yourself.
@@omegahaxors9-11 Easier said than done when the strongest graphics card you have is a shitty old quadro. I almost fried my laptop trying to run a UE4 game because I was being stupid
@@JamesTDG "A Quadro" says very little when some of the most powerful graphics cards out there are Quadros...
@@inv41id Quadro 1000M, comes stock in the thinkpad w520
@@inv41id Didn't they discontinued the Quadro line in 2020 in favor of Ampere architecture?
But now looking into it more, it's pretty confusing. I think Quadro got rebranded as RTX? But they still sell enterprise-focused GPUs as if they were Quadro cards? I have no idea. Anyway hope yall are having a good day.
i never understood puzzle 6 in this area and always just parkoured to the end. that is honestly a really smart use of mechanics
Hey, me too.
same
39:27 I immediately thought of 'it' as well, and am also glad you made sure to not spoil it
I don't get it
me toooo, hard not to talk about something so awesome when everything is a spoiler lmao
Assuming "it" involves ventures running into travelers?
Before anyone comments no we wont explain it. The people who don't know can't explain it and the people who do know also know why we shouldn't
On an unrelated note heya "it" fans :3
I was a little disappointed to not have a new mechanic here, but these were also some of my favorite non-gold puzzles.
Puzzle 7 and the Lost puzzle at 26:30 are mvps for me. Love, love clever beam work.
46:30 I think the difference is more that the reset Neith is talking about is like a reset button on a machine, rather than installing a backup onto a different machine. "Hold the power button for 5 seconds then load a local save state" not "buy/make a new one and load an external save state"
like a factory reset, probably would've put 1k back to how they were at the very beginning of the game
Bro I empathize with Athena’s struggle sm. Like. I’d want to search for knowledge, etc. out of curiosity, but if I knew for sure whatever that was could be used by anyone to absolutely rewrite the universe (not in a metaphorical way) I don’t know if I could do that. At the same time, one of my core beliefs is that every single person (or humanity as a whole), no matter what they’ve done in the past, can be good/do good things, I don’t want to avoid searching for answers out of the fear that they’re going to be misused. But then again, I’ve also seen (from history) how bad things can get if even a small number of powerful people choose to do a small number of harmful things (whether that be to get that power or once they have that power). So it’s complicated lol. And idk if there’s a good answer.
Anyway! It’s very fun watching you solve the puzzles XD.
Broke: "Wrong"
Bespoke: "I hope you understand that the opposite is true."
(26:01)
Melville is my favorite of the cast that we get to interact with. Just a lot to like about her and her very practical personality.
She also had quite the character arc! She went from the competent mechanic who happily worked day and night to hold the city in one piece, sacrificing any time for hobbies and the like in the process, to someone who yearned for a better world, who realized that devoting herself to maintaining the ever degrading status quo of New Jerusalem for thousands of years is worse than death.
31:33 Man... Trevor's a real one. Hope he's enjoying himself wherever he is. Heaven probably.
40:48 imagine having more viewers than the entire population we currently know of
39:26 i didn't connect the dots when i played through the game myself, but right before you said it i almost yelled outer wilds out loud, i mean it's such a big coincidence it can't be accidental, right?
lol I'm glad he didn't say it then. I still need to finish it. I was thinking Interstellar
Ohhhhhh, that's the intended solution for the puzzle in 25:00. I did it with one box. I sprint jumped with one box so it landed about halfway onto the bridge, circled back and then did two big jumps. Just took a little tuning to get the spacing right.
When we woke up in the city again I was almost thinking "what if this is just a dream by The Machine?" like.. what we just learned Athena was trapped in
But then I realized when well.. actual gameplay started up again.. but that could have been a cool twist, like you wander the city and are like "yeah guess can see the museum" and suddenly mechanics from the island were there to tip you off you are not in the real world
The theme of area 12 is just "Talos 1 Mechanics Only"
the one where you change reflectors while maintaining a connection isn't possible in talos 1 and I don't think there's any puzzles where you move a reflector around on your head or walk on a purple bridge. I think the theme is more "controlling state remotely" like making your own switches using the environment and timing. this world definitely has more of a "outside the box" vibe
Okay I'm convinced this game could be come a movie, even without a puzzle I was riveted to the last 20 minutes of the vid
The story of this game is very good, the puzzle difficulty might have not veen there yet but the story has been such an amazing highlight of this game. I'm very impressed
they played it way too safe. but at least they set up the foundation, hope they can be more ambitious with dlc
@@codesymphony In a way it makes sense since I feel the puzzles were not the main focus, I'd say the story and world building was so the puzzles were easy so everyone could enjoy the story. However I will say as a puzzle game it will not hold up well if they do not bring difficulty either through the gold puzzles or through the dlc
39:05 He's definitely thinking about the Eye of the Universe from Outer Wilds.
42:05 that line goes really hard, with center being center of the pyramid, or maybe even center of the mystery
imagine making a whole space platform then hollowing it out to make puzzles
There's a reason for that, and the story in this episode already explains it. Melville explained when they first arrived that the appearance of this last area is 90% identical to a spaceport design Athena and co. came up with. Then, as Byron explained when they were in the Megastructure, all 12 areas around the Megastructure were manifestations of Athena's dream, where she dreamt of puzzles and towers. It just so happened that one of the areas took the form of the spaceport design that was in the back of her mind. Also, keep this design in mind; you may come across it again later.
@Cklodar yea but imagine you, built a whole rocket platform, then filled it with puzzles because of a dream
@@kalibbailey6219 Okay, I guess I wasn't interpreting your comment as a joke. Point taken. (If you weren't making a joke, though, then, no she didn't have to build it. She willed the whole thing into existence through her dream.)
@Cklodar I kinda interpreted the "willed into existence" similar to when a carpenter turns a log into a statue
Ben's Comments:
After all those new tools, it's easy to forget about all the potential the original mechanics had, the kind of potential that was overlooked in The Talos Principle 1.
Now at the very end, these wild new interactions can finally get their chance to shine!
I like how i understood the solution to "the trickiest puzzle in the game" a few minutes before tyler figured it out. Finally learning something😂
good job
46:05 i wonder what it is that he was brewing in his head for a year
find out in ttp3
the correct solution to 26:34 Alternator is definitely more complex, and really leads to both gates alternating as the name of the level suggests. there should not be any hurrying to the first gate.
27:30 I do think you cheesed it. Blue connection should be correct, but the other connector is connected to red, and blue through gate. When the gate is up only red can work. When the gate is down blue will work and the red connector has both blue and red input, so it emits nothing.
I never really knew how the storyline branches out, didn't expect hermanubis can stay as mayor, i thought its just rand and byron in the end.
I guess thats the consequences for tyler skipping out on everything not a puzzle, bullying thecla after making byron mayor is fun
Yes, it depends on your social network activity, what kind of ideas you stand for. Weird how a single person who was just born can influence a society of roughly a thousand people so much, huh
Also, "If I wAnTeD lOrE, I'd Go ReAd A bOoK oR sOmEtHiNg" I really don't get this attitude. You're losing all the context of the gameplay this way, it's like buying sushi only to dismantle it, eat only the rice and throw everything else in the bin
@@andrewch4066 A good game doesn't *need* lore to be enjoyable but a great game can be enhanced by it
@@andrewch4066 Its also based heavily on what you say in conversations. Do not forget that everything you do on the island is being streamed. Basically 1k is an streamer that most of the population is watching.
@@SuperBearnut I guess that kinda explains it. But it's not like this stream is carefully crafted to push the viewers towards a certain ideology, the population also sees and hears the debates with Alkatraz who is quite adamant about his stance, and Pandora too
That 'Gateway Switch' puzzle is brilliant!
Interesting, I didn't realize that the participants in the final expedition could change.
For me, under Mayor Byron we departed with Byron, Alcatraz and Melville, but not Yaqut.
Same here, I wonder that since Byron got to be major Yaqut didn’t want to go? It kinda sucked when I was playing it bc yaqut was my favorite and he didn’t want to come with me :(
How did you get Al to come along, though? By being more sympathetic to his views during dialogues? When I first heard it was possible for Al to join on the final expedition, I imagined the purpose of the expedition must then be to either shut down to destroy the Machine, in which case I couldn't imagine Byron also being willing to come along.
@@Cklodar No idea what I did specifically, but I was approaching the machine with the goal to remove the danger that it posed being controlled by Athena's Dreams.
Yaqut didn't come because he was afraid of the new technology, after what happened to Miranda.
I guess my position was "It's dangerous while it's out of control"
@@tachrayonic2982 Wow, really didn't think the ending could be this different based on dialogue choices! Fascinating. Since you got Byron (Mayor Byron, no less) to come along as well, did your 1k and Al convince Byron of all these points you listed?
@@Cklodar I don't know the specifics, I had no idea it might impact who'd come along.
All I know is that I was weary of the danger posed by The Machine, but I wanted to embrace the technology within, and I picked dialogue options generally following that reasoning. It was my first playthrough, so I didn't know what impact those decisions would have.
39:27 yeah don’t worry I see the comparison to “other media” too
Yeah you definitely cheesed that first lost puzzle. It's a shame, because that puzzle had one of the most satisfying solutions in the game for me.
This is my new favorite game of all time! I love this series a lot.
Let's go it's GOLDEN PUZZLES time baby !!!
This section has the best puzzles hands down
39:26 as a representetive from the [redacted] community i appreciate you following our strict no spoilers policy
On an unrelated note: is there your playthrough of said game on youtube?
I hope this last area doesn't actually have a new mechanic and just gives a deeper exploration of the ways all the mechanics explored can interact tbh
Something that only clicked for me NOW, after having done all puzzles and stars, and watched you all this way, the stars were never relevant for the golden doors...
I am sure of this now as I noticed I had unlocked golden puzzles while trying to figure out the last star that I had skipped until then... But it didn't make sense until now.
Melville says this: "There seem to be more puzzles per cluster then necessary to gain access to the tower. I wonder what happens if you solve all of them."
I'm now pretty sure that golden puzzles are unlocked by doing all PUZZLES, not all stars... (And as we know, the stars can be annoying). I don't know if it has any impact on the ending by not doing the stars however...
I'll never get over Hermanubis' voice
vampire survivors just came out with a new update. added "adventure mode" which is basically just new game plus and a few new maps
for real? might be time for me to get into it
26:09
the moment i realized the secret level signs are the same as the secret exit signs in jellycar worlds
If you like Tyler didn't chill on a tropical beach, what are the possibilities for act 5?
46:45 - miranda probably never had contact with their society, no connections no back ups; kinda makes a lot of sense.
F for Trev, he was a real one 😞
Spoilers below
In my playthrough I had Byron become a mayor. That may be due to some interactions inside a "personal terminal", but idk exactly. So many details near the ending are different based on player choices, cool!
I know of two factors affecting it.
If you interact with the working Somnodrome (which Tyler didn't, even though he totally could have I'm pretty sure...) then you can do things with that which affect people's beliefs.
Also, engaging with the social media stuff affects the mayorship, but of course he basically completely ignored it, so ...
Thank you for giving a spoiler warning ❤
@@sotek2784No, he couldn't interact with it. Hermanubis would have been waiting by its side if it were interactable. This happens because he likely ignored Doge's matchmaking attempts, a requirement for seeing this fantastic little easter egg (even though for regular players who don't ignore social media, the Somnodrome scene would probably feel more like a regular part of the story).
Anyone notice some of the sound effects sound similar to Warcraft 3. Such as powering the door at 2:49 sounds exactly like the wisps in WC3.
I can't unhear other characters calling the main character "wonky".
Did you know that elohim backwards is Mihole, which looks a lot like my hole. This is a nod to the fact that solving his puzzles is akin to pegging. In this ted talk I will-
39:29 *banjo music starts playing*
That trick in Mobile instruments, I could not figure it out. Instead i took the cube off the fan after jumping up and used the height to jump onto the wall, completing the puzzle without the connector
39:26 I know what you're talking about, I remember you saying you played it without recording it. I wonder if it was an intentional homage.
Oh there's no playthru of it? Rip i rly wanned to see tyler figurr out all of. Well, everything. That's just that kind of game
Hey Tyler, not sure if you’d be interested in revisiting the game Roll that you’d played a while back, but it just got an insane huge update to the point of it being called 2.0
I actually had the scene where you wake up after the mega structure and Byron had become the major. Glad it was different for you to see a different side of things
I'm so in love with Melville
she has feet pics
There is one reson I havn't been watching this series. I want to play the game myself once I hit winter break. I hate not watching every video That Aliensrock puts out.
when I played Duality, I immediately thought of Small Space, Big Solution from Road To Gehenna. Disconnect from the source!!!
Almost all the elements in that last zone are present in Talos 1. That could be the "theme".
Its kinda poetic that the last world only uses mechanics from the first game.
besides the purple bridge
@@CaTastrophy427 I mean, the purple bridge is just a horizontal purple door, not really a new mechanic
We don't need a theory of everything to be happy personally - we just need a small part of it that aligns with our needs, goals, and dreams. But as everyone, a summary of all humanity's needs, goals, and dreams - both personal and singular as well as those universal - are summarized into a need theory of everything. A singular person doesn't need a theory of everything, everyone is who needs it.
I like how UA-cam (or the editors) placed an ad right where 1k gets zapped and blacks out, like you start to see ads about cars when you're about to die.
in the forgetten level you did chess it
I think it's worth going back and trying to solve the level as "indented". I think you would like the solution
Yea it is a super interesting puzzle using the intended solution that really makes you think about beam mechanics.
I want to know what the comparison to other media would have been! Maybe it's something I already know of, but if not it seems like something I'd want to check out!
The "bad boy"s have taken over the series.
The future is looking pretty golden, if you catch my drift.
i was in tears when byron said
"this really is a talos principle to"
"Nice poem, bro." Me too myself anytime I try to say something profound.
I wonder, how does it determine who goes for the final trip? In my 2 playthroughs I got Al and Yaqut as one team, then Byron and Melvile as another. Now seeing Yaqut there too is confuisng
In my playthroughs I always got Byron, Melville and Yaqut, like Tyler did, but I saw in comments that it's also possible to get Byron and Al simultaneously. Now, Yaqut being swayable either way is understandable; he sees things from an emotional point of view, and your dialogue with him really shapes how he views the Theory of Everything. But I can't for the life of me imagine what the final expedition must be about if both Byron and Al agree to go together. (I imagine when you only get Al and Yaqut to go on the expedition, the purpose would be to shut down or destroy the machine?)
"Screw protocol... Its byron"
MAH MAN
6:42 There is a harder puzzle like this in the final bonus world of Road to Gehenna. It's called "Small Space Big Solution". I went back to replay it yesterday and I'm only just now noticing it. It's basically just the first half of the puzzle. Makes me wonder how many other puzzles in this game are remade from or copies of the same ideas from the other games
Very exciting! Hope this game sticks the landing!
39:25 i get that reference
39:00 That sounds as ominous as the "Man in the Wall" from warframe.
You can keep Hermanubis? I had NO IDEA! Judging by reddit comments, there was only choice between two mayors. I glad you can actually keep Hermanubis too. I guess all you need to skip using somnodrome as Tyler did ?
At least glad Tyler get both Mel and Yaqut, that's a hard one.
Tyler's favorite puzzle is my favorite puzzle
He says it's one of the trickiest, yet so far it's the only one I could've solved
@aliensrock do you plan to provide you final thoughts like you have on previous series?
I’m guessing he will provide it after the Gold puzzle and final Megastructure parts
He does it for every game ending I'm sure you will see it on the finale
Are there videos of his ttp1 play through? I remember only finding the first few worlds or so with pretty bad framerate
Please continue the serries and finish the game!
these creators must build our cities!
Thank you for continuing the series!
Lol, I got Byron as a mayor, didn't even think it was a choice.
good puzzles!
Confirmed talos principle 3 at 39:27???
Talos Principle is the bomb
This has been my favorite series in awhile.
I realy hope theres more
Time for golden puzzles hope is cool
Woah, they totally changed that first puzzle. It used to be *much* harder and relied on tricky beam mechanics.
I'm kind of disappointed actually, it was a pretty decent puzzle
wow tyler realy went hard on his passive agressive against hubermainis or whats he called
I think that's everyone's natural response 😅 byron is our bro
when I got to this part Byron was the mayor? I didn't know there was something different??
0:50 aliensrock is clearly not a minecraft youtuber
keep it coming
Please play the golden puzzles! There are some things in there you'll surely like
16:23 no, full on jank
The fact that this series is ending reminds me of... Paquerette down the bunburrows. What happened with the development of that game anyway?
Yes it's fantastic!
ball bearings 😁