Top 5 tips for building better Ork boyz
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- My top 5 tips on how to make better looking Ork boyz.
1. Use multiple kits - stormboyz, lootas, bikers. Old WHFB kits if you can track them down.
2. Build better poses
3. Use the waist ball joint
4. Use third party bits
5. Cut up arms at the shoulder to repose - Ігри
That "back-glueing" the cut off shoulder bit underside was TOP! thanks!!!
I’m a long time imperial painter/model builder but I’ve just started an ork army(bought prophecy of the wolf) this is super helpful. Thanks so much!
Welcome to the Waaagh!
Re: #5 Grab an anatomy book from your library. Adding the edges of pectoral and trapezoid muscles helps! I use the same bitz for my boyz!
4:29 8 Out of 10 cats Does Countdown... Nice 🙂👍
Bought a box of Black Orcs specifically for my Nobz. The helmets look satisfyingly brutal.
Erm well I managed to do he pose with the arm
This. But I agree with him, the pose doesnt look good.
You'z proppa Orky den
As someone who picked up the combat patrol orks, I can tell you that you can make the duplicate ork boyz look great with little to no effort of kitbashing. I'd heavily recommend using some spare deff dread ork icon parts as masks for the ork boys. The look really cool when used that way.
I positioned my arm in that position. It wasn't comfortable but I could do it. I agree with the point though, but it's not impossible to position your arm like that. I'd suggest if you want those arms up in the air, the trick is to keep the hand inline with the head or forward of the head.
You could just turn him around on the waist balljoint and dats da ork that went to da painboy to get his legs re attached and they got put on backwards.
I hope he got his teef back afterwards
Just did your arm trick on some stormboyz, and oh my Gork n Mork! Made a huge difference in apperance. Thanks!
Fantastic tips. So many simple ways to make your boyz look better and more individual.
Tip for converting kommandos or blood axes. Some 1:35 kits or 1:42 kits of soldiers have pouches and backpacks, helmets that can be looted. Wehicle and soldier accesory kits for scale models is a good place to find gibbuns, bits and bobs.
An excellent video and I'm also a new subscriber. I've been collecting Orks since I was first introduced to the game in 1991 and these are great tips.
One of my biggest pet peeves is Orks that are modeled so hunched over that they seem to be looking at the ground. This can be alleviated during basing by putting something under the forward most foot to rock them back slightly.
A 6th tip would be to clean the mold lines off the models thoroughly. Mold lines and the connection points to the sprue left on the model show up very easily once either the primer, a wash, or drybrushing is applied over them. A set of metal files and a mold line removal tool are worth their weight in gold to remove these. Be careful if you use a hobby knife for this process as it can ruin the model and/or injure you. Bits of plastic can fly off the model and into your eye or the eye of anyone nearby, too.
A good set of flat snips helps with removal from the sprue, especially if you only use them for this purpose.
An optional step, but one I do with every model I am prepping is to drill out the barrels of their sluggas and shootas. Sure, it adds time to the prep of 90 to 120 Ork Boyz, but it makes them look so much better once painted and on the table.
I swear that the dice seem to roll better for models that have their gun barrels drilled out.
Doing those two things really takes your painting up to the next level and they are both easy to master. After 120 Ork Boyz and several units of Gretchin, you'll have it mastered, too!
Great additional advice Gene
Yeah great advice :)
I wanted to concentrate mostly on Ork-boy specific tips but mold lines and drilling barrels are a definite must! (though I concede that I didn't do it for the example boy!)
Thank you for the video! It is very useful!
Fan Fact: For decades I've been collecting fantasy bits for 40k conversions. But now I use 40k bits for my Orruks in Age of Sigmar.
For tip 2, I could bend my arm just fine like that, then I remembered I have E.D.S.
XD
"the old boar boyz kit"
OLD??? WHAT? 0.0
I remember when that thing first came out :p
God time flies...
Some handy tips 👍🏻👍🏻
Subbed looking forward to more content
Thanks man!
What a beautifully painted orks!
Great tutorial man. Highly underrated channel.
Great tips there mate. With all the armies I collect I keep over looking my Orks.
About time you got your life on track then innit?
I concur with Dread Waaagh - that just sounds like you need to get stuck in with the ladz!
@@boneshreddagaming8775 very true. Having a game on Saturday had to put together a quick 2.5 k list so had to do do chaos after this I'll focus on Orks
@@PeninsulaPaintingProjects Good lad! Keep us updated on how you get on :)
It’s funny I found this video. I just got into building minis a few days ago. I went with orks. Waaagh! Anyway after I built my nobz first I had all these extra parts. About 1/3 way through building the boyz I had an epiphany. And boom. I got some pretty sweet models built. Probably too much details for a beginner but boy it’s fun tbh
I really appreciate this video! It was very helpful for me to change up my boyz and not feel so samey
Tip number 6.
Get some plasticard, one of those combi-packs with several sizes are ideal. Preferably two thicknesses of plastic tube as well where one fits in the other.
With that, you can make armour plates, shoota barrels, entire choppas, glyphs and much more with just simple cuts and some imagination.
Cut a small bit of tube, put it on the other, you get a step. This is useful for adding strength and good looks to custom weapons handles and/or barrels.
This together with greenstuff leaves zero missed possibilities. One can make anything orky really easy.
@Lord Inquisitor Shadowlord Ah yes, styrene.
That name always confused me, since it reminds so much of polystyrene.
But that's the stuff! Go nuts with it. It's always good to have some styrene/plasticard when making models.
You never know when you want to add something, build a box, or a house, or a choppa, or an entire tank.
Good luck :)
Great tips! Your Ork Boyz definitely don't look basic anymore!
~ Wolfbrother Methos
Yea I did it. It was easy. It's just a one armed wood chopping motion or a head cleaving motion or a " I got to make a fool of myself by throwing this wad of paper through the wall while attempting to make it in the hoop" motion.
Excelent tips mate
Fantastic video man! I'm already considering you to be my main rising competition as your videos and style are quite close to my own. This video for example is one I've had jotted down for my orksentials series and you're literally hitting a bunch of my notes as you go so I'd say we think very much a like sir! I'll hold off doing anything that crosses over anytime soon as much as possible.
this was a very well considered and planned episode, executed perfectly! Keep them coming at this quality and there will be no stopping you mate!
Very excited for your next video and seeing your channel grow!
We should definately do some collaborations!
Tell you one thing I found interesting, you saying to choose 3rd party or official heads and stick with it. I hadnt really ever taken that stance myself but you did argue it well and made me consider your point and even made me stop for a moment and wonder if I myself might regret not doing that, but then I have SO many different heads from so many 3rd partys that I just feel my boyz are full of variety rather than all hailing from the same great grandaddy, but then I play freebootaz so a rag tag band is kinda the point for me!
Awww you make me blush matey!
I'm well up for collaboration on something.
A lot of the heads thing does come down to personal preference really. I like a certain amount of uniformity to my armies (to an extent - they are Orks after all!).
Please can you do a painting tutorial for your Orks?
Brill! Great tips. Thanks 👍
I can confirm that Kromlech has some kneeling orc legs which look great with kitbashing Kommando Orks. I also used the Stormboy arms holding the axe choppas under the blade. I think it sells the idea that they are waiting to attack rather than just flailing their arms about.
I use bits of sprue to fill gaps when repositioning limbs.
Cheap, available, and it welds to the plastic better than putty.
You made me realize I needed to lower my arms 😂
If I ever start up a freebootaz army I might check those heads out
Been working on Necrons lately, but watching this is making me want to bust da boys out again
If GW wanted us to not use third party products they would put out packs of upgrades to help the hobbyist make unique troops. Since GW apparently dosen't want to do this they must by be ok with us going to another company for support. They obviously don't have enough product capacity since they use theirs for all the new primaris Lt's they are making.
Games workshop these days are going monopose forcing us to be stuck with recolured clone armies
The arm pose is pretty easy I find but I totally agree it doesn’t look natural if the body was leaning a different way it could work
It is easy for me to use third party bitz, since GW dose not go west of the Mississippi in the USA.
Honourable mention: Cleaning out the attic and find your old warhammer 40k orks? are some of them missing arms? no problem! chuck some blood for the blood god technical paint on the stump and they're good to go! an ork will fight one armed, no problem :)
Really good video Lad.
Thanks!
Excellent new Ork channel. I've come to the conclusion (given all my armies etc) that this is the most fun army to play. Just built / building some Ork Boyz from the Assault on Black Reach box. They're ok you only get two Shootaz with the ork boyz in that box though. When you say old Ork boars kit, do you mean the Age of Sigmar Boar kit also ?
Yeah the black reach Orks are great. I forgot to mention in the video but the set of 3 boyz contain unique choppas and sluggas that aren't found on the regular boyz sprue, so are another useful resource.
There used to be two boar kits for WHFB, savage Orcs and regular Orcs. Sadly the regular one has been discontinued (real shame, it's a fantastic kit) and the only one left is the Savage Orc kit. The choppas are great for snakebites, but would look too low-tech for other Ork armies.
@@boneshreddagaming8775 interesting, I may make a blue stuff mould out of those unique sluggas and choppas then
my tactic for making better boyz is saying fuck it and just building them because if i spend time making sure they are amazing i wont get as many done and i wont have more dakka
AoS ‘Ardboyz work wonders for custom Nobz, for ideas to do some kit bashing with. Too large for regular Boyz sadly, but you can make aome snazzy Nobz, and best of all, better Nob heads. The helmets alone are worth collecting the kit for.
Thanks for the tips!
Most welcome man!
A couple years back when gw wanted us to kitbash and be creative white dwarf has a section with some ork conversion and kitbashes in its own section
@4:35 I can hold my arm like that. No problem. But I have hypermobility. :P
Great video by the way. If you want to have a horde (or the old green tide) army its hard to make not to many Orks the same.
Perhaps should say unless you have hypermobility ;)
Yeah it's definitely tricky to make them all look unique, but a few choice cuts here and there can really open options up for you :)
Spellcrow have the best heads. Love the character style. Kromlech heads are my favorite to paint with contrast paints.
Useful tips
Thanks :)
Love it man thanks!
I kinda like using different style heads for my Boyz in 40K. There's no discrimination in my ranks.... well.... theres some. In fact, probably a lot. but still.... makes them different and different is good enough for any WAARGH!
Great just finished my ork army ooh a video
What the fuck have i done
Also I think the bases provided they are the correct size can be quite varied and GW will allow 3rd party vendor pieces to be used there for tournaments and GW shop games ... correct me if I am wrong... but any other part of the mini they may well object and disallow play with that mini.
Really it comes down to the individual staff member. I've been given a tentative nod by one of my local GW staffers if I ever wanted to play there, but it's a bit shakey ground.
Hi mister! I have a video suggestion! It's about Zealot miniatures they really cool minotaurs! Can you please do a review and then make a video about it?
Nice tips :) thanks
Hey, after seeing this video, I had to subscribe. 😉 I Love my Ork Boys, and I've seen those 3rd party bits. I need those bits, and MORE ORKS. Also, You a Gorker or a Morker?
WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!
Morker, definitely morker! Though for the life of me I can't figure out why this video has suddenly exploded in popularity!
Is the same fairly simple compatibility still the same with the newer Ork models? Especially swapping between new and older Ork miniatures?
Edit by old I mean the ones that you can still buy everywhere. I’m new to the game so by old I might not realise that you might be talking about even older models that I don’t know about.
Anybody that is not your typical neck beard can move his arm this way. ._.
I see no problem with mixing third party heads right along side GW heads. I think the species of both heads are Ork. I use 1st edition Orks 2nd edition Orks GorkaMorka Orks and 3rd edition Orks all in the same squad for variety.
I'm the same myself as I run freebootaz but I think Nick argues the point well, I see why this would help pull an army together, especially if running a smaller army or Klan specific maybe. But for larger mixed Klan armies i think variety is key and most human faces come in a myriad of shapes and sizes so Orks would be no different
It does come down to personal preference really. I see the different generations and different heads as being almost entirely different species, so don't like the mixed look. That's just me though :) If you like mixing things then that just gives you even more variety!
@@boneshreddagaming8775 if I played against orks with 3rd party heads I'd be fine with it, but personally i dont like how bulky they are for my boyz
I'm just getting into the hobby what sort of problem would using third party models be if I was looking to compete in tournaments?
Welcome to the hobby!
I'm not a 40k tournament player I'm afraid (yet) so I can't say for definite. I play 40k casually rather than at tournaments, but I'm wanting to change that when the pandemic is resolved. Somewhere like DakkaDakka or on a channel like Vanguard Tactics would be the best place to ask I think.
For official GW run tournaments I know that you'll not be able to use 3rd party models. Managers do have some discretion in stores but really it's best to assume you won't be allowed to use them.
For 3rd party tournaments I cannot imagine there being any problems. I've only ever been to one and had absolutely no problems (the opposite in fact - people really liked the 3rd party models), but I've no idea if that's representative.
Sorry I can't be more help!
@@boneshreddagaming8775 Thanks for letting me know. I'll have to double check where I go play I guess. The whole reason I'm getting into this is to build my army and make them unique for me.
@@SadwichPunch2100 The best thing about the hobby is making an army that is truly yours :) Using 3rd party bits definitely opens things up a lot more but GW's range is so extensive these days that you've got tons of choice even if you are restricted by where you'll play!
Better orks...but more expensive !!!....A lot easier to get better poses with just what in the box
We dem boyz
Here is a summary: buy bitz
I find spellcrow heads need a lot of work to make the necks look right otherwise they're too long.
Here for the losing bits and being sad.
The really annoying thing is that I can see it right there on the desk. It's there! Why can't I see it on the video?!
I was able to put my arm up like that
I like how the 3rd party heads look. But I hate rezin. (Conflicted)
please do a skin painting tutorial
My method is almost a carbon copy of Quarter Paint's fantastic tutorial :) I would mostly be copying him if I did anything. I've only changed a couple of colours up because of what I had in my collection, but the process and the colours are largely identical.
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I can position my arm in that position, and it would make even more sense in a melee where they're chopping away and doing big swings. Also the twisting of the body doesn't really look much different on your painted boys. It's hardly noticeable. It seems like the kind of thing you notice because you've changed it. I think having a load of orks with heir weapons low doesn't look very good and doesnt fit with the narrative of how orks are
I'm currently building a lady-bois army
Love your video, but your little test of arm swing with the shoulder is off. One, its easy, two, if you have ever chopped wood, some swings go pretty high, just sayin ;)
I've refused good trades over those LOUSY arm poses
Makes me want to rebuild the army that was stolen so many years ago.
F BRO.
I've had that happon to me
Something I have seen on alot of boyz recently is tip 5 done too extreme. People have their ork boyz with there weapon directly out parallel to them and it just looks very silly. High effort for low quality pose.
It can definitely be overdone. The Black Reach boyz had their arms sticking out at 90 degrees which never looked right to me (but those were the limitations of plastics at the time).
satehrdayz ar' fa' da' boyz
I never even realized orks had such fucked up backs.
Good video and tips, but the audio is awful.
Pls dont touch your mic so often.
I wasn't touching my mic :-/
I know the bumps you're referring to, but the mic was far away from me.
I want to give this video a like but it's a 444 and i just can't ruin that
You can aim for 666 soon
Saying that arm with the chopper didnt look normal while talking about a fantasy game makes no sence
Anatomy still needs to make sense though, and his point was more about the fact that the arm was pulled back way too much.
Tip #4 - That's why this video has dislikes; unless it's an offical Games Workshop tournament then mix & match as you like. Gaming in Warhammer stores with 3rd party parts!? No problem. Adding 3rd party pieces to GW kits!? Heck yes. Again; only tournaments need to be 100% GW products, regular gaming no.
Really? So many experts who can identify 100% alternative bits?
fully disagree with his assessment that raised arms look bad.
If games workshop tournaments ban you for having third party kits, then thats fine. Eventually nobody will play in tournaments, and games workshop will not only lose their custom in miniatures to 3D printing and 3rd party groups who produce models at acceptable prices, unlike the sick joke territory GW are leaving behind for even worse pricing - but they'll lose the custom for the tourney's too. It will eventually be overtaken by 3rd party tourneys as the participation rate for GW stuff falls off a cliff.
This is our hobby, not a GW printing press, they can suck a fat one and deserve to go down. The fans will take it from here.
I don't think it's particularly worth to make ork boyz so unique because you're simply going to be making so many of them. Sculping sucks, resin work sucks, and honestly most of the other plastic ork kit arms look better on themselves to keep them looking distinctive and unique from the line troops.
If you're making a kill team or whatever they're called, go nuts, but it's a bit too ambitious otherwise.
man... with this video we could almost think gw stuff is cheap... but no sry, we can't do that. We can't buy more and more for gw mistakes.
Weird
Good tips, body twisting and arm posing in particular, man why dont people use this on their figures!
Us not using them made GW take it away from the new primaris line... See what you did you nitwits!