So. Fun fact for the Nuwa fight. If you bring in less than 4 Demons, she will exclusively use Zanma and Sacrifice of Clay. So you can instead only bring in Sudama, Fortuna, and a Sudama-affinity Nahobino to absolutely cheese her. I am surprised so few people know about this cheese strat.
i'd assume most people wouldn't think to expect the game to work on that kind of logic because man, if that was randomly and deliberately programmed, f those programmers
For the first turn, she'll go Mazio guaranteed. Just bring a single Elec Dampener and you can skip her first turn. Then all you have to worry about are the normal attacks she'll do before charging up Sacrifice of Clay. Just heal up with Fortuna, and you'll be fine.
@@FungalFury "Absolute Suicide" is a stretch. While you generally want a full party for maximum press turns and all the advantages that brings, I've reduced my party size enough times to see it as a legitimate strategy than a boss gimmick. When faced with "I could re-fuse my entire team to resist this boss, or I could simply bring the ones I already have who are immune anyways" it's kind of a no-brainer to me: minimize the grind. There's a reason why so many Solo Challenge runs of SMT and it's spinoffs actually kind of laugh off bosses that are normally on the harder side, and vice-versa. That said, SMTV moving towards Persona Timers on buffs/debuffs definitley makes this less appealing, since you need to refresh them and can't just set-and-forget, making the lower press turn amount a potential concern if you're not fully immune to a boss and just mostly unconcerned by it. I can't imagine actually soloing Matador in SMT3 if my own Sukukaja wore off after just three turns, as an example. Signed: A longtime yet still on the casual side SMT fan, who's played a bunch of the games but not all of them. For example, Vanilla SMT4? Yes. Apocalypse? No.
When I started this I thought it was gonna be "If Nahobino gets hit" but you're doing of ANYTHING gets hit. That's crazy! Can't wait to finish the video!
Looking at all those saves, it occured to me that one crucial feature that vanilla SMT5 didn't have was the ability to delete save files. I really hope they've fixed this in Vengeance. It was a major annoyance.
in the nuwa battle if you are alone and use skills or items every turn, she will always go for zanma so if you have a force immunity you should be able to "easily" win
I always felt so satisfied taking out bosses on Hard in this game. Proper preparation is everything, but it seems so bipolar sometimes. If the game wants to fuck you over, it will really badly because certain things are so punishing, like missing taking away two actions so missing at a bad moment and the enemy getting lucky crits can get you killed.
@@menthols4625 Thats just SMT in general if you play it on the hardest difficulty, on IV:A on Apocalypse difficulty I just had the bad luck to make a doubletap with the incorrect skill on a boss, missed and lost my 2 last turns, then the boss just obliterated my MC, and since it was Apocalypse difficulty, its just like Nocturne and V, if MC dies, game over.
@@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX the one problem with smt v's combat is enemies feel spongy as hell on hard difficulty. other than that it's probably peak smt turn based combat
I’ve just had a thought Jack! Immediately after the tutorial Deamon fight, Aogami teaches you HOW TO HEAL WITH MAGATSUHI. You have to take that hit in NG or else the tutorial makes no sense! Just wanted to make you feel better 😂
Wierd take, But, as frustrated as you get at the game trying to get through without raking a hit From the CPU perspective who forgets everything that isn't saved: You're just an unstoppable untouchable ultra instinct asshole who won't sit there and take your lumps like a good player
Holy, I finished this game ages ago and I never noticed that the demon Petra have his 1 inch banana complete with 2 rambutans out in the open like that.. LOL
I’m glad I got to check some of this live, it was a blast seeing it. I’ll be watching this when I get home from work, but I already know this will be a good video
So I'm not the only one who feels like a big chunk of the game has been cut last minute ? Cause Dazai's story is kinda ok but the other characters feel like they were planned to have a lot more but don't.
Video's been out for a while, but wanted to say that this is a super cool run! I watched this live on twitch when you first did it and it was really fun. You are just a really great streamer all around. Also very surreal to see my handle in the vid and see you responding to my questions on UA-cam 😅
My first playthrough, I chose to do on hard and chose to defeat shiva. I did at least 40 runs before I finally beat him and regretted my decision to finish that quest.
If you already have one of a demon you try to recruit, they'll go away and usually give you an item, too. I think that would have worked better than trying to run away from the Jack Frosts.
That goes to Apocalypse for me, if that counts at least. I only struggled with the neutral route on SMTIV vanilla (fuck that route holy shit) and the early game of Nocturne. 1 and 2 were easy to cheese what with them both being old as shit and V was a breeze the moment I realized that it was basically Nocturne 2: Electric Boogaloo. All in all the hardest SMT game bar none is still Jack Bros.
@@drumo2273 I'll agree with Apocalypse. I'm currently stuck on YHVH but the other bosses took me atleast 2 to 3 tries each everytime I got a new one to fight.
Love this kind of "playing the game wrong" runs, what's next once you finish whatever is left in this run? Beat smt v without attacking? Items only? Looking forward to whatever comes next
Hey Jack? You think you’ll ever do an SMT IV or Apocalypse challenge run? You mentioned 4 is one of your favourite games before, so I think it’d be cool. And I personally have such a soft spot for Apocalypse… (best music, fight me 🤣)
Great video and fun run but... my god some of the stuff you said is everything wrong with the smt fandom. "simply dad told me to not like this game so i don't like it anymore." and "this dungeon is boring because it makes me use my head for 5 seconds."
My partner sent me the game and idk if this was a glitch bht i dodged attacks and got near damageless on the tutorial, it might be possible, but the same way time travel is, i hope it is, but no guarantees
Eh, he's more or less right. Though the game itself says "Fee-on", "Finn" is generally the more accepted pronunciation, but both are correct. Though he did say MAC a little too hard, should be more like mic
@@jgal7979 Ah. I can't hear how he's saying that part, it blends in with the background for me. I guess I've just heard enough people completely butcher it that this one seems spot on lol
i started on casual and i dont think casual is casual its more like harder then a normal game would be,i barely made it through the first game on casual,my other playthrough with reborn where allot easier but even vengence version while reborn stil had 1 annoing thouf fight in it on casual that boss was a freaking damage spunge even on my lv 99 charc with improved stats.
wait, got a question if someone can answer, hum, why did he do a main character physical build if he was just going to use a monster with an amazing physical skill, and most tough enemies were resistant to physical? that just sounded like extra work for nothing.....
thats pretty much every SMT game u get stronger much faster than the difficulty of the bosses only exception being nocturne on the highest difficulty even then its arguable
Lol, watched simply dads video and decided you dont like the game as much? Dont let other peoples opinions affect yours. Especially his, he literally hates everything and is blind to any critical feedback of what he says. I agree it seems some stuff was cut during development and that it isn't a perfect game (none are and V definitely does have some flaws but for atlus' most ambitious title yet they did a stunning job). But simplydad literally treats V as if it is the worse thing to come out of smt and even called it the worst game he played that year. Either he only plays perfect games or is just an exaggerated internet persona that loves getting off on hating stuff. He also loves articulating what he says in a way as if it is fact rather than opinion. Then he literally said 'cant wait for people to start hating V cuz i said i did' even though people had issues before he made his video, proving that he loves the idea of changing peoples opinion.
You literally said that he must have changed his opinion on smt5 because he watched simply dads video, but then went on to say that simply dad wasn't first one to be critical of the game and he must be full of himself for thinking people changed their opinion just because of his video. So which is it?
@@JaredConnell I'm not contradicting myself in that statement. I said that Jack said he has changed his opinion on V as a result of simply dads video. But i am also saying, as an aside to that, that simply dad has a massive ego, so much so that he believes he started the smt v hate. I am not saying he hasn't influenced people (with outright misinformation in parts of his video) but I am saying that he isn't the start of it like he seems to believe.
So. Fun fact for the Nuwa fight. If you bring in less than 4 Demons, she will exclusively use Zanma and Sacrifice of Clay. So you can instead only bring in Sudama, Fortuna, and a Sudama-affinity Nahobino to absolutely cheese her.
I am surprised so few people know about this cheese strat.
i'd assume most people wouldn't think to expect the game to work on that kind of logic because man, if that was randomly and deliberately programmed, f those programmers
For the first turn, she'll go Mazio guaranteed. Just bring a single Elec Dampener and you can skip her first turn. Then all you have to worry about are the normal attacks she'll do before charging up Sacrifice of Clay. Just heal up with Fortuna, and you'll be fine.
I too, am surprised nobody knows a strat that isn't spoken about much.
Because it's absolute suicide in basically any smt game to not have a full party
@@FungalFury "Absolute Suicide" is a stretch.
While you generally want a full party for maximum press turns and all the advantages that brings, I've reduced my party size enough times to see it as a legitimate strategy than a boss gimmick. When faced with "I could re-fuse my entire team to resist this boss, or I could simply bring the ones I already have who are immune anyways" it's kind of a no-brainer to me: minimize the grind. There's a reason why so many Solo Challenge runs of SMT and it's spinoffs actually kind of laugh off bosses that are normally on the harder side, and vice-versa.
That said, SMTV moving towards Persona Timers on buffs/debuffs definitley makes this less appealing, since you need to refresh them and can't just set-and-forget, making the lower press turn amount a potential concern if you're not fully immune to a boss and just mostly unconcerned by it. I can't imagine actually soloing Matador in SMT3 if my own Sukukaja wore off after just three turns, as an example.
Signed: A longtime yet still on the casual side SMT fan, who's played a bunch of the games but not all of them. For example, Vanilla SMT4? Yes. Apocalypse? No.
cool but you didnt save jack frost so the run is invalid and you have to do it again
Bullying is unacceptable in this community please cease
That pfp says enough
@@JackBenci that's bullying?
Do it again
@@FoulPet that’s joking?
"I'm not a big fan of accursed poison"
>Is clicking AP every boss fight by endgame
I'm glad you saw the light
The moment I got that skill I was like wow this is bonkers, it let me beat lahmu on my first try
I'll see you all soon... I'm very sure. After I've recovered...
Let's be honest, you'll never recover from Geralt and Sudoku Hell
When I started this I thought it was gonna be "If Nahobino gets hit" but you're doing of ANYTHING gets hit. That's crazy! Can't wait to finish the video!
Looking at all those saves, it occured to me that one crucial feature that vanilla SMT5 didn't have was the ability to delete save files. I really hope they've fixed this in Vengeance. It was a major annoyance.
Back in ancient times, we used to hit our nuts with a hammer just to experience the ecstasy of missing a hit.
Today we do dmgless runs in hard games.
in the nuwa battle if you are alone and use skills or items every turn, she will always go for zanma so if you have a force immunity you should be able to "easily" win
This is actually how i beat her on my first playthrough lol
Fun fact: Hydra is the only boss that doesn’t resist every ailment in some way
How do you mean? Even Shiva only resists mirage.
@@Rajin90 Shiva resists every ailment
@@sullycub7183 I stand corrected. I only checked the essence last time.
@@Rajin90 fair
@@sullycub7183That was the most mature conversation on the internet. Wow.
Haven't watched it yet, but seriously thank you Jack! You've made great content, and have had a great community.
SMT V: Physical Skills cost MP
Jack: YES!!! HASSOU TOGI GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Damn this makes me want to play this game again. The story was a little underwhelming but i loved the combat. It was just so satisfying imo.
Having played SMT5 the world building is interesting, plot is meh but the gameplay is absolutely ace
And that music as well
I always felt so satisfied taking out bosses on Hard in this game. Proper preparation is everything, but it seems so bipolar sometimes. If the game wants to fuck you over, it will really badly because certain things are so punishing, like missing taking away two actions so missing at a bad moment and the enemy getting lucky crits can get you killed.
@@menthols4625 Thats just SMT in general if you play it on the hardest difficulty, on IV:A on Apocalypse difficulty I just had the bad luck to make a doubletap with the incorrect skill on a boss, missed and lost my 2 last turns, then the boss just obliterated my MC, and since it was Apocalypse difficulty, its just like Nocturne and V, if MC dies, game over.
@@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX the one problem with smt v's combat is enemies feel spongy as hell on hard difficulty. other than that it's probably peak smt turn based combat
I’ve just had a thought Jack! Immediately after the tutorial Deamon fight, Aogami teaches you HOW TO HEAL WITH MAGATSUHI. You have to take that hit in NG or else the tutorial makes no sense!
Just wanted to make you feel better 😂
Doing a challenge like this for a game so recent? You're a madman. That deserves a sub
Me: Gonna go to slee...
Someone: Can you beat Shin Megami Tensei 5 without Taking Damage?
Me: WHY?
Video: I am 2 hours long.
Me: Me sad.
Gotta say, love these ridiculous challenges. I don't have the patience for them so I appreciates these so much more.
Man I love this game. The story is kinda meh but everything else is top notch. I applaud your vigilance for actually doing this!
Wierd take, But, as frustrated as you get at the game trying to get through without raking a hit
From the CPU perspective who forgets everything that isn't saved: You're just an unstoppable untouchable ultra instinct asshole who won't sit there and take your lumps like a good player
Cool video, your suffering was very entertaining to watch. And that ending...oh oh business is about to pick up !
funny rpg man
When I heard "I can fight women as well" I instantly thought of "IM AN EQUAL EQUALITY CRIME FIGHTER"
Holy, I finished this game ages ago and I never noticed that the demon Petra have his 1 inch banana complete with 2 rambutans out in the open like that.. LOL
love your energy and your music choices! i literally recognize all of them lol
No-selling Ishtar is, quite frankly, the funniest god damn thing I've seen in regards to SMTV.
this challange is a pain btw.. a late game bosses can and WILL just spam almighty once they relize nothing works
I’m glad I got to check some of this live, it was a blast seeing it. I’ll be watching this when I get home from work, but I already know this will be a good video
I wasnt able to make the streams, but Im glad there was a video on it. Thanks for making this, it was a ton of fun to watch!
dude i notice just now that you posted it on yt, i was even present during some live, good memories
You left Jack Frost alone with that Hee-vil Ho?
...Damn, good job on the challenge but that's just cold-blooded XD
My Joker in P5 was named Akira Toriyama and My Royal Name was Amelio Young
Jack Frost literally just said: "Gimme your f**king wallet and no-ho one gets hee-hurt!"
That's why he's the mascot
Me, a masochist (probably) shiny hunter in pokemon games looking at the reset counter
You gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers
You are a crazy gamer!
When I saw the title I thought only the Nahobino could not get damaged 😅
not me reading protag name as SMES for the whole video
Still sad that this game didn't get more dlcs. Return of true demon as great. But it is not enough.
So I'm not the only one who feels like a big chunk of the game has been cut last minute ? Cause Dazai's story is kinda ok but the other characters feel like they were planned to have a lot more but don't.
Video's been out for a while, but wanted to say that this is a super cool run! I watched this live on twitch when you first did it and it was really fun. You are just a really great streamer all around. Also very surreal to see my handle in the vid and see you responding to my questions on UA-cam 😅
Whenever playing SMT I always use the name Soma Fide I just think it’s cool and kinda matches the way SMT likes to name other characters
Mr. Benci I am really behind on my school work! I'm particularly behind on Further Maths and I will use this video as background noise!
well well well Mr. Funny man
when vengance route run :DDDDD
My first playthrough, I chose to do on hard and chose to defeat shiva.
I did at least 40 runs before I finally beat him and regretted my decision to finish that quest.
What do you mean 40 runs? You beat the game 40 times before tackling Shiva?
@@jesusmejia3417they most likely meant 40 tries at Shiva.
If you already have one of a demon you try to recruit, they'll go away and usually give you an item, too. I think that would have worked better than trying to run away from the Jack Frosts.
truly underrated content
Absolutely mental! I admire your patience, have a sub!
I thought this challenge was like only nahobino can't take damage
I was there on Stream, We dripped up the goddamn name, and we suffered and suffered before managing to Bully every single boss into submission!
the payday 2 music had me confused for a second
does this guy still has his stream about this i wanna watch it
SMTV was by far the easiest mainline I've ever played.
Fantastic video!
That goes to Apocalypse for me, if that counts at least.
I only struggled with the neutral route on SMTIV vanilla (fuck that route holy shit) and the early game of Nocturne. 1 and 2 were easy to cheese what with them both being old as shit and V was a breeze the moment I realized that it was basically Nocturne 2: Electric Boogaloo.
All in all the hardest SMT game bar none is still Jack Bros.
@@drumo2273 SMT3 becomes a joke after Matador
@@drumo2273 I'll agree with Apocalypse. I'm currently stuck on YHVH but the other bosses took me atleast 2 to 3 tries each everytime I got a new one to fight.
I can’t believe he did this without getting hit once
Love this kind of "playing the game wrong" runs, what's next once you finish whatever is left in this run? Beat smt v without attacking? Items only? Looking forward to whatever comes next
WHEN SONIC CD THEME KICKED IN I KNEW THAT IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD TIME
Yes and no, better get your block/absorb and dodge potential up early game.
Haven’t watched it yet but I worry for your sanity
what a madlad. great video!
My God, you're a madman
Hey Jack? You think you’ll ever do an SMT IV or Apocalypse challenge run? You mentioned 4 is one of your favourite games before, so I think it’d be cool. And I personally have such a soft spot for Apocalypse… (best music, fight me 🤣)
Why would I fight you when you're correct
@@MegidolErin I like you. The Tokyo map music is omg awesome.
Remember when you said you weren’t gonna make this your full time career?
Mc Hammer was a joke that equaled both a like and a subscribe.
Just me, or does transformed Dazai look like Omega weapon in FF8 and Noah from Nocturne had a very hairy baby……
5:26
Based.
Oh my god; dude.
Great video and fun run but... my god some of the stuff you said is everything wrong with the smt fandom. "simply dad told me to not like this game so i don't like it anymore." and "this dungeon is boring because it makes me use my head for 5 seconds."
Nerd
Minor nitpick. You could have pick Kanade
So, I'm about 13 minutes in and I already know you should've made the "no damage" rule for the MC only.
THE KING RETURNS
I noticed the danganronoa ost at times, neat.
Wait wait wait ypu can put Nahabio in other slots?!
You can use your own name. Its not narcissistic to do so. Its an Rpg after all.
Bro, where's the sands from the tutorial fight? That was the best part
Odin uses Hade Blast - Jack looks at the wiki.
STOP FEEDING ME BAD INFORMATION!!!!!!!!
My partner sent me the game and idk if this was a glitch bht i dodged attacks and got near damageless on the tutorial, it might be possible, but the same way time travel is, i hope it is, but no guarantees
*Sigh* Looks like I'm not going to be getting any sleep tonight.
Ayo New Goddess Reincanation V is my favorite game :D (Shinmegamitensei5 in engrish)
11:47 just noticed that p3 ost
So now are we gonna do the no damege run on vengance?
you madlad
1:32:37 ICE application incoming
whats the song playing at 43:27
Guess I’m not sleeping yet lol
oh fuck yes
Whats the background song playing at 24:40?
Hey, really late here but it is the danganronpa v3 investigation theme ua-cam.com/video/Kl4VnTNuS-0/v-deo.htmlsi=mai3DV_lowOvyIn4
why twitch removed his streams
Imagine trying to beat Demifiend Lmao
Haha yeah imagine that would be innnnsaaaannneee...
@@JackBenci Oh
Oh no
@@RTDelete See you next video 😘
@Jack Benci
Oh lord
Frigecky carried Jack hard
anyone know the song at 59:50?
it is Ikebukuro underground from SMT4, here’s the link ua-cam.com/video/XEtRzDYYBuY/v-deo.html
Ikebukuro Underground Theme from SMT4
5:31 The answer is no.
why do you do this to yourself
You deserve...how about a break?
Oh Fuck No
Why would you do this to yourself?
47:05 - that, in fact, is not how you say it.
Eh, he's more or less right. Though the game itself says "Fee-on", "Finn" is generally the more accepted pronunciation, but both are correct. Though he did say MAC a little too hard, should be more like mic
@@MegidolErinI was referring to his take on “cumhaill” more than the start but hey you know it’s not half bad in hindsight.
@@jgal7979 Ah. I can't hear how he's saying that part, it blends in with the background for me. I guess I've just heard enough people completely butcher it that this one seems spot on lol
i started on casual and i dont think casual is casual its more like harder then a normal game would be,i barely made it through the first game on casual,my other playthrough with reborn where allot easier but even vengence version while reborn stil had 1 annoing thouf fight in it on casual that boss was a freaking damage spunge even on my lv 99 charc with improved stats.
wait, got a question if someone can answer, hum, why did he do a main character physical build if he was just going to use a monster with an amazing physical skill, and most tough enemies were resistant to physical? that just sounded like extra work for nothing.....
Simple! I did a magic build on my normal playthrough and simply wanted to see what physical was like :)
@@JackBenci .....................okay, I guess.
thats pretty much every SMT game u get stronger much faster than the difficulty of the bosses only exception being nocturne on the highest difficulty even then its arguable
😭😭
Throw you a sub? Okay.
*Shouts* WHERE'S MY EX?! I NEED HER FOR A THROW!
Wooooooo :)
You’ve played this on yuzu? If yes, how smooth is the emulation on Smt 5?
Unfortunately, this was captured from a Nintendo Switch! Sorry!
If you leave the game loaded too long, it can tend to lag. And sometimes it stutters a bit here and there. 100% playable, though.
Men
Lol, watched simply dads video and decided you dont like the game as much? Dont let other peoples opinions affect yours. Especially his, he literally hates everything and is blind to any critical feedback of what he says.
I agree it seems some stuff was cut during development and that it isn't a perfect game (none are and V definitely does have some flaws but for atlus' most ambitious title yet they did a stunning job). But simplydad literally treats V as if it is the worse thing to come out of smt and even called it the worst game he played that year. Either he only plays perfect games or is just an exaggerated internet persona that loves getting off on hating stuff. He also loves articulating what he says in a way as if it is fact rather than opinion. Then he literally said 'cant wait for people to start hating V cuz i said i did' even though people had issues before he made his video, proving that he loves the idea of changing peoples opinion.
Lol
You literally said that he must have changed his opinion on smt5 because he watched simply dads video, but then went on to say that simply dad wasn't first one to be critical of the game and he must be full of himself for thinking people changed their opinion just because of his video.
So which is it?
@@JaredConnell I'm not contradicting myself in that statement. I said that Jack said he has changed his opinion on V as a result of simply dads video. But i am also saying, as an aside to that, that simply dad has a massive ego, so much so that he believes he started the smt v hate.
I am not saying he hasn't influenced people (with outright misinformation in parts of his video) but I am saying that he isn't the start of it like he seems to believe.
Bro every reset you have the same demons in the same positions, seems u just keep going pretending you reset when in fact you did not lol