Can You Beat Shin Megami Tensei V on Hard Without Buffs/Debuffs?

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  • Опубліковано 20 жов 2022
  • First playthrough highlights: • I Thought Playing SMT ...
    Watch my other challenge runs here: • Challenge Runs
    SMTV won the vote and this was something I wanted to do anyways so that was very convinient. Unfortunately my first plan (Nahobino only) has already been done so we settled for option 2 which was no buffs/debuffs.
    Very fun challenge run as always but not as brutal as I expected it to be with a few exceptions cough Shiva cough
    Might do something a little shorter next since those runs always take forever to complate. We kinda stuck with Megaten games lately but I do want to do other things as well again, just a matter of what is happening in which order. With Persona 5 coming out on pretty much every plattform today and Soul Hackers 2 still being rather new, there is enough material to cover future challenges for sure :D
    Enjoy the run and feel free to leave suggestions what to go for next!
    #shinmegamitensei #smtv #challengerun
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  • @lowfatslaplordofcheese6410
    @lowfatslaplordofcheese6410 Рік тому +153

    This has got to be one of my favorite small channels, this man goes though turn based suffering so we don’t have to.

  • @BoxuTrev
    @BoxuTrev 6 місяців тому +21

    POV kid me playing any rpg

  • @Deoxys_Used_Mimic
    @Deoxys_Used_Mimic Рік тому +118

    From what I’ve heard, you actually *DON’T* want a ton of null/repel/drain affinities/abilities for the Shiva fight.
    His AI reads that, and becomes much more likely to spam Almighty attacks, and since you’re going to be taking guaranteed damage anyway if you *resist* instead of null/repel/drain…
    …you’ll be taking less damage across the entire fight, because you’ll be taking *half damage* from the *more frequent* elemental attacks instead of *full damage* from *endless* almighty attacks.

    • @tvgaming2132
      @tvgaming2132 Рік тому +13

      You want to drain 2 of what Shiva pulls off, you can RESIST one and it'll be fine

    • @paperluigi6132
      @paperluigi6132 10 місяців тому +1

      @@tvgaming2132so 2 drains/nulls/repels is ok, and any more causes the Almighty spam?

    • @tvgaming2132
      @tvgaming2132 10 місяців тому +5

      @@paperluigi6132 from what I know, no.
      If you can't get hit with anything, he'll spam almighty moves/ that one move that powers up AND allows to pierce anything in the game regardless of resistance

    • @that_dude8411
      @that_dude8411 26 днів тому

      Or you can just lock him by killing his adds and popping dekunda every turn

  • @killjoy_ao4653
    @killjoy_ao4653 Рік тому +126

    Debuffs ❌
    Buffs ❌
    Pain ✅
    Suffering ✅

    • @pocketinfinity6733
      @pocketinfinity6733 Рік тому +3

      perfectly balanced as all things should be

    • @Zentiu
      @Zentiu Рік тому

      Putting the icing on the cake, he wanted to make his last name Ffs 🤣

    • @Hymn_
      @Hymn_ Рік тому

      the smt experience in a nutshell

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 4 місяці тому

      @@Hymn_ unless it’s smt1 lol

    • @Hymn_
      @Hymn_ 4 місяці тому +1

      @@MILDMONSTER1234 is smt 1 really that easy? like even easier than p4g?

  • @IkraamDaniels
    @IkraamDaniels Рік тому +29

    SMT without buffs/debuffs. My favourite flavour of suffering

  • @xelldincht4251
    @xelldincht4251 9 місяців тому +10

    No buff/debuff challenge is the most interesting one. My god did Nyarly struggle to get through SMT Nocturn with those rules. It's admirable how you find ways to make a hard game even harder

  • @BurritoOfDoom
    @BurritoOfDoom Рік тому +14

    Hey man, just going to say that I found your channel randomly through the Ichiban playthrough and I want to thank you for the amount of effort you put into your content!
    Going to binge every Video now, stay healthy and thanks again!

  • @pixienyx4306
    @pixienyx4306 Рік тому +11

    I know you said Nahobino solo has been done, (and I watched Deus, it was brilliant!) but I’d love to see your attempt. I mean yeah, it’s possible, that much is proven, but the sheer amount of choice and adaptability in SMT games mean that your play through is likely to be totally different. RNG, unlocks, tactics, it’ll all be different. I’d genuinely love to see your take on it!

  • @TheatreKiller
    @TheatreKiller 9 місяців тому

    Great stuff my brother

  • @StanleyG23
    @StanleyG23 Рік тому +28

    Endure and Enduring Soul stack so having them both on a demon or the Nahobino might not have been a bad idea.
    Other than that, nice run!

  • @JackBenci
    @JackBenci Рік тому +9

    Very nice!

  • @pixienyx4306
    @pixienyx4306 Рік тому +3

    Love this channel… like legit, you are one of my favourite challenge runners, way up there with the likes of Benci, Nyarly and Robin and Zephyr. Teeny thing though. Max Ishtar can be sealed. And she doesn’t seem all that good at shifting it…. So arguably, Max Ishtar is easier if you get the RNG, and the RNG seems to be in your favour for that fight. Maybe something to try messing about with in future 😊

  • @Hymn_
    @Hymn_ Рік тому +4

    “Can you beat SMT V on hard difficulty with no buffs/debuffs.”
    that’s just straight up psychological torture

  • @raxon912
    @raxon912 Рік тому +9

    Yakumos Akihabara boss fight was difficult enough in my own playthrough

  • @Pystoria
    @Pystoria Рік тому +1

    You are a brave man

  • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
    @kichiroumitsurugi4363 Рік тому +2

    About Odin and his usage of Gungnir - he uses attacking skills on the first press turn, then Charge/Concentrate on the second. Gungnir is always what he will use after Charge

  • @RosyMiranto
    @RosyMiranto Рік тому +4

    now do SMT V No Fusion No Essence (except for Aogami's) in the future. either way, great job for doing this run man.

    • @steam-powereddolphin5449
      @steam-powereddolphin5449 Рік тому +3

      Bucketgetter has already done a full No Fusion/Demon Customization run with additional restrictions to minimize cheese. At a (somewhat) low level throughout the whole thing!

    • @RosyMiranto
      @RosyMiranto Рік тому +1

      @@steam-powereddolphin5449 okay thanks

    • @cryguy0000
      @cryguy0000 Рік тому +1

      I think a "no socializing" challenge could be interesting. No side quests, demon negotiation, shop, world of shadows, can only talk to mandatory NPCs

  • @crowdoveskies5108
    @crowdoveskies5108 Рік тому +1

    1:00:02 Shiva:"Say some Nahobino's dissin' your fly girl, just give em' one of these!"

  • @steam-powereddolphin5449
    @steam-powereddolphin5449 Рік тому +3

    I've been thinking that someone would do this at some point; I'm surprised I haven't seen the same thing attempted for the SMT4 titles or Strange Journey.

    • @OrionEJ
      @OrionEJ Рік тому +2

      The game is BALANCED around buffs and debuffs. To not use buffs and debuffs is pain.

  • @deathiezzlulz
    @deathiezzlulz 4 місяці тому +1

    16:27 feeun mac cuu hill. it’s an irish name

  • @gabrieldevoogel6225
    @gabrieldevoogel6225 Рік тому

    Hey! I personally think yoy should’ve done magic because there’s a demon named Yoshitsune who’s really great from when you get him onward as a physical attacker, but I still loved the video and think your phys build was well made with your restrictions especially being impressive to have succeeded with

    • @kichiroumitsurugi4363
      @kichiroumitsurugi4363 Рік тому +1

      He already got Yoshitsune anyway, but Murakumo still far outclasses Hassou Tobi

  • @Syrahl696
    @Syrahl696 Рік тому +3

    To get a demon to give you its essence, don't you have to first level it up enough to unlock all it's skills? I'm pretty sure thats how it works, and if so, that Sandalphon grind was a bit of a waste of 2 hours. Oops!

  • @ozossosozz7300
    @ozossosozz7300 Рік тому

    Any reason why you don't slot the nahobino to 2nd-4th team slot at any point since you can't guarantee first turn crit for press token for most of the game on strength build?

    • @RagnarAlvarrGaming
      @RagnarAlvarrGaming  Рік тому +1

      You'll notice that I switched Nahobino around for certain boss battles due to getting easier press turns. For the majority of the game it wasn't necessary though and I kinda like having the protagonist on slot 1 to lead off the team :)

  • @jbn507
    @jbn507 Рік тому +2

    You pronounced Loup Garou correctly!
    I’m actually going through the game with no fusions allowed on hard right now, it’s pretty fun

  • @notbob7305
    @notbob7305 Рік тому

    9:17 you can also did this with a ragda absence way later in the game

  • @light6666
    @light6666 5 місяців тому

    can you beat smt5 without MC (note you are alowed to play normally till you get pixie mc is not alowed to deal direct damage so poison and other form of damage is totally fine including reflect as its not you doing the damage)

  • @houseoutwrong2187
    @houseoutwrong2187 Рік тому

    Fionn McCool is how it's pronounced

  • @Atelierwanwan
    @Atelierwanwan Рік тому +2

    Fun video as usual. I do admit since I haven't played SMT I don't know how significant this challenge it as I never use buffs or debuffs in games anyway. I always feel like I'm wasting a turn, especially in the games where the buffs have a short time. Am I doing more damage in 2 turns with the buff than I would have with just an extra attack kind of thing.

    • @Noahs_Chair
      @Noahs_Chair 6 місяців тому

      In most SMT games not using buffs and debuffs is borderline suicidal.
      However, SMT V massively nerf buffs/debuffs. They only have 2 stages instead of 4, they run out if you wait, and they are split in All target and single so you don't get party wide buffs out of the gate.
      They are still really good here since you have passives that extend their duration and their multiplyers are as fat as always.
      But this is still by far the easiest game to beat without buffs/debuffs.

  • @appledroplarry
    @appledroplarry 11 місяців тому

    Looks easier than nocturne challenge.

  • @shiroamakusa8075
    @shiroamakusa8075 Рік тому

    Watching this I'd actually think banning dampeners of any kind would actually be a tougher challenge.

    • @Zorothegallade-gg7zg
      @Zorothegallade-gg7zg 4 місяці тому

      An even better idea would be a "No added resistances" challenge.
      -You can't use Dampeners
      -You can't add passive skills that grant resistances, immunities, repels or drains to the Nahobino or Demons
      -You CAN use an Essence to change Nahobino's affinities.

  • @chunkytomatosoup1826
    @chunkytomatosoup1826 Місяць тому

    You can pretty much just sleepwalk through base smtv anyways unless

  • @darkstar_xd
    @darkstar_xd 11 місяців тому

    This Challenge is Basically Impossible in SMT 3, Soo lets see If It is Possible in SMT 5
    :D

  • @littlevivigaming4822
    @littlevivigaming4822 Рік тому

    According to Persona 5, Cu Chulainn is pronounced "coo hoolan"

  • @katieheys3007
    @katieheys3007 3 місяці тому

    I'm a long term RPG player so started this game in hard and died on the second battle...three times. haha

  • @raikaria3090
    @raikaria3090 Рік тому

    Wait if Charge/Concentrate is x1.8; dosen't that mean it's a dps loss to use them?

    • @RagnarAlvarrGaming
      @RagnarAlvarrGaming  Рік тому +1

      If you time them with your magatsuhi (guaranteed crit or more crit damage) it is still stronger overall but yeah, those got nerfed quite a bit in SMTV.

  • @Dajudge06
    @Dajudge06 Рік тому

    I guess I didnt know they still made Tensei games or that for some reason I just havent seen this one before, guess I assumed they broke off Tensei for the Persona games. Granted I havent been huge into SMT games but I would keep an eye on them since Nocturne caught my eye way back on the ps2 (mostly because I was HUGE into DMC games at that time XD).

  • @DamonAkuma92
    @DamonAkuma92 Рік тому

    I did i always abuse the shit out of the press turn system and add all elemental skills to multiple magic based demons.