Darkest Dungeon Lore: The Ancestor (Spoilers)
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- The chronological retelling of the Ancestor's tragic story.
This is a bit different than the usual Lore videos I produce because of the lack of on screen sourcing. I'll be making another Ancestor video explaining everything more in-depth with proper quotes and be able to justify my reasoning on why I put certain event where I did.
This is not an official statement on the lore of the game.
My thoughts, opinions, and theories are my own, and subject to change if new information is presented.
I apologize in advance for the janky animations ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Music can be found at the follow:
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House of Ruin - Stuart Chatwood
The House - Kevin MacLeod
Masquerade of the Vampire - Brandon and Derek Fiechter
Forbidden Tannin - Stuart Chatwood
Mocking Thirst - Stuart Chatwood
Grave Blow - Kevin MacLeod
Midnight Tale - Kevin MacLeod
Moorland - Kevin MacLeod
A Singular Pervasion - Kevin MacLeod
Bad Encounter - Myuu
Round That Corner - Myuu
Facing Darkness - Myuu
Giant Wyrm - Kevin MacLeod
Halls of the Undead - Kevin MacLeod
Plaint - Kevin MacLeod
Lone Harvest - Kevin MacLeod
Decay - Kevin MacLeod
Down the Rabbit Hole - Myuu
Gnarled Situation - Kevin MacLeod
Crusade - Kevin MacLeod
Five Armies - Kevin MacLeod
Town in Chaos - Stuart Chatwood
The End Is Always Near - Myuu
Into The Depths - Myuu
Run - Myuu
Despair - Myuu
Blasted Heath - Stuart Chatwood
Explore the Ruins - Stuart Chatwood
Feral Chase - Kevin MacLeod
Drums of the Deep - Kevin MacLeod
Awkward Meeting - Kevin MacLeod
Ghost Story - Kevin MacLeod
Path to Darkness - Blake Matthews
Virtutes Vocis - Kevin MacLeod
Interloper - Kevin MacLeod
Lament Part 2 - Myuu
Voice Actors:
Miskatonic Memorialist
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Renara Hawke
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Annie H
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Craig Murley
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Eldurrino
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Jett Barker
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Jeremiah Billing
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The Bread Bringer (Teun Laarhuis)
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Eduardo Riedel
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Shaun Giblin
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Artists:
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Young Hag and Mariner by Qsy
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Drowned Crew Comic 1 by MetalGy
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Drowned Crew Comic 2 by SeptHuitNeufDix
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Prophet Comic by Arsh
Siren Comic by yellow-py
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Talon Damsel by Marvin Seo
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Additional Backgrounds by Tasty_Y, Sporozowen, Da Erkka, and eclipsezr
Additional Art by Dalton J Spin
Special Thanks:
Red Hook Studios
Chris Bourassa
Tyler Sigman
Trudi Castle
Wayne June
Renara Hawke
The Bread Bringer
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Legal Stuff:
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Been about 2...ish days. Hope everyone liked and enjoyed the video/movie. I said I would make a more typical video with the on-screen quotes to explain the timeline more in-depth and I will, but I wanted to tag something else onto that. If you had any questions about the video/movie, leave a comment to this and I'll try to answer it the best I can in the next video. I'm not an expert but I can explain my reasons or at the very least my thought process.
Stay safe, and remind yourself that over confidence is slow and insidious killer....
It's strange that Ancestor managed to defeat the countess while being just a mortal human. Perhaps he had some occult powers already?
Or maybe he was intentionally *allowed* to do it?
@@dmitrymakovchik5091 The occult powers, I'm not too sure about, maybe he had some previous dealings with the occult, since he is surprisingly chill with the whole "Vampire almost killed me" thing. The Countess allowing him to defeat her is a possibility, and this is something I want to delve into with the Countess, she is one of the few "Independent" variables in the Estate. That she might have been an "Agent" for the Heart, or had some dealing with it in the past, since it's implied that her blood is the same as the Heart.
TL;DR - I wonder what the story behind the Collector, Shambler and Thing from the Stars is and if The Sleeper and the Fanatic have something to do with the next game?
SO we know of the countess, we know of the many main powerhouses that control their respective areas...but what of those in-between?
What of the Collector, who constantly seeks the heads of heroes?
What of the Shambler, for what purpose did it offer to the Ancestor save for either a source of power or a form of defence?
What of the Thing from the Stars, for how could such a beast that was birthed from The Sleeper that was bound behind those very barries he erected?
But then how does it all lead into out next story in this ever damning story, how does the light becom corrupted, causing feral creatures that cling to a false god, a false flame...
We know that The Sleeper can bring about those powerful foes from our previous brawls but yet we never see The Fanatic...
What if The Thing from the Stars was not the only thing to leave the farmstead andd spread it's malicous upon the lans once more...
But hey, thats just a theroy, A GAME THEROY!
Thanks for reading! :D
@@scpfoundationukdivision7792
TLDR, Maybe they'll return stronger than before or maybe we'll find their corpses or some other reference to them.
So I did make a video on the Fanatic and his possible origins. I briefly talked about the Ancient and Comics forces in the Estate as well.
The Collector we don't know too much aside from an Eldritch monster dimension jumping to collect more souls. Which is how he has the heads of heroes who may still be alive in our timeline. In another dimension, Dismas, Junia, and Barristan are dead. (My head-canon, pun-slightly intended, is the heads actually talk to the hero who is holding it, which is why they cause so much stress)
Shambler I still don't know too much about. Currently two ideas. 1) unlocking the Door to the Darkest Dungeon sent out a beacon. Monsters and Cultists flocked to the Estate, their Mecca to Madness. Shambler was one of them. 2) The Shambler was something the Ancestor unleashed from the Dungeon/Cosmos. Not sure on the exact connection but seeing as the Shamber drops Ancestral Artifacts, he must have some sort of bond with the Creature. (It also can be infected by the Heart's corruption so that also favors the Not Part of the Heart Category)
The Thing that Came from the Stars, I don't think it left the Farmstead but rather is trapped outside of it. When the Comet was landing, a piece broke off and landed outside of the Stone Slabs, that piece began forming into the Thing that Came from the Stars by absorbing animals and people outside of the Farmstead and now it's just kinda lost. Can't return to his "Home" because of the same pillars keeping the Sleeper in.
Anyways, thanks for watching, and stay tuned! :D
Very well done
He thought he had everything meticulously planned out. But unfortunately for him, overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
I mean, no matter what, the ancestor still wins in the end
Feels like you're talking about me
everyone have a plan until they get a punch in the face -Mike Tyson
Lol half of the lore boils down to
"Hey are you gonna pay us for all the horrible shit we did for you"
Ancestor: " No, I dont think I will."
I wish I could evade all my responsibilities like the ancestor
The half the game boils into
The Ancestor: “So looks like I fucked up a whole lot”
"Am I fucking up too much?"
*Looks at the Flesh*
"No, it's the denizens of the Hamlet who are wrong!"
@@rynemcgriffin1752 The Ancestor: "Whelp, trying to contact the outer planes of existence didn't work out that well, how bout I try this necromancy thing I've heard so much about."
The Mariners are the ones I feel worst for. As far as we can see, they didn't commit any atrocities, just sourced artifacts and such. Should've just payed the poor bastards.
The tragic extent of my failings - The Movie
That's the idea. XD
Ohhhh so now I know.
Finally.
Local Man Ruins Everything: The Musical
My road to damnation: on ice
Now i know the tragic extend of his failings.
Not all of them * darkest dungeon 2 intensifies *
Thats alot of L
Ancestor: hey little man, can you go to this town and recruit people to kill god? It's not part of a ritual or something.
Heir: sure, why not?
*actually kills god*
Ancestor:
FUCK!…. Well at least time is a circle.
“How much of this is your fault? How much of this evil was wrought by _your_ hand?”
*_”Yes”_*
"Except for that" *points to countess*, "well... kinda."
@@Mr.Sparks.173 Nah that one was definitely his fault
@JamesTAdams that's what the "well kinda" part was - just the ancestor trying to shift the blame, but failing to fully do so.
Let's not forget the countess was some sort of eldritch monster before the ancestor did his deeds. It's very well possible that the ancestor only accelerated the mess that is the crimson court as opposed to being the sole cause like the rest of the stories around the hamlet. As in the crimson court story could have ended similarly if the ancestor didn't trick everyone into drinking the countess's blood.
It's been a blast working on voicing the Prophet. I hope we might work together again in the future!
Likewise. Thank you for playing the Prophet. It wasn't an easy voice to do and you nailed it.
That was a stellar job!
@@Miraihi Thank you so much! It's one of my first acting roles so I was a bit nervous about it.
No
You did a great job.
Local man ruins everything!
(Darkest dungeon 2 gets announced)
OH LORD HE IS AT IT AGAIN!
_He ain’t local anymore. WE’RE TAKING THIS HELL WORLDWIDE BABAAAAAYYY!_
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!?
Local man ruins everything electric boogaloo
Prophet's headline be like:
"Old man yells at cloud."
Maybe this time it's nit his fault
Maybe...
The poor Caretaker is probably one of the last people in Hamlet who have seen and served the Ancestor. I think he knows a lot more what is happening to Hamlet and about Ancestor. You can feel it that he is hiding something, not telling everything that our heroes need to know
Because you can see the caretaker shift into a flesh monster while buying provisions in the end game it's very possible that the caretaker's seen the heart of darkness and was assimilated into it. Leaving behind a mad monster taking on the guise of his original self.
@@BlazingDarkness Other people in facilities also shift, including our heroes. It's an insight that you gained from visiting DD give you glimpses of things how they truly are. It would drive anyone insane when you realise that you are actually a biological eldritch mass, but your brain hides it from your vision to defend your mind and sanity.
@@1God1Fury @ least, that is how you perceive the ending. Can any of us truly know?!
Certainly explains why he KEEPS ON STEALING THE BAR SLOT GODDAMN IT HALF OF MY TEAMS ARE ALCHOHOLICS GET OUT OF THERE!
@@sirmount2636 no. That's pretty much how it is in the lore
God I hate ancestor even more now, such an amazing villain. And to ever be fooled into thinking such a wretched and vile person would have a sudden change of heart. Madness...
He's a villain we love to hate. A suave, smooth aristocratic who does whatever he wants because he can. He's so entertaining because of how over the top evil he is. And since he's voiced by Wayne June it makes it even better.
He never had a change of heart. He just lacked direction. With each event his purpose became more concrete. The man was truly vile and got what he deserved. To become subsumed by an eldridge horror. Makes no difference he sought that end. He will madly continue on, a wretch too far gone to realize what a miserable existence he has carved for himself.
Though its just speculation, like it could have been the hearts way of mocking him and all hes done by assimilating him and continuing to use him as a puppet
Dont get me wrong hes a horrible person but I dont think taking his life was apart of his ambitions usually those sort of rituals are done in the entities presence
@@geoshark12 I dont think it is necessarily to mock him, the ancestor was the one to put everything in place so it would make sense for the thing/creature to even reward his efforts just like the cultists that received its blessings Also not to mentionbthe fact that he was the one that wrote the letter to manipulate us into traveling to the Hamlet, so who would have been better than the man himself to serve as the avatar of crawling chaos itself?
@@lemniscatel5491 what im saying is if you look at it from the point of view of a man who realized he had been manipulated and tried to kill himself as escape , yet the heart brings him back to continue
Even though the video says hes an unreliable narrator I don’t agree with that , he does not lie to you once in the game , he actually tells you the whole story , unlike say glados from portal where we know we can’t trust her words
I dont think dying was some sort of master plan i think it was a man the realized he is fucked and he needed someone to clean up his mess
I like to think that in the end, he did have a change of heart and sent the letter in earnest... but his fate was no longer his at that point, and anything he could have done would have furthered the Heart's goals, along with his own dark ambition made manifest.
He was the Heart’s creature from the moment he put that glass to his lips. Everything he did, whether it be for or against it, only ever played into its designs. Even his death was not his own; merely another step further in the great ones plan.
@@TheCorrodedMan The moment he saw it and it saw him, he was damned.
It all started with that smile. That damn smile...
Can you feel it? The walls between the sane world and that unplumbed dimension of delirium are tenuously thin here...
Yes all it take is a little hole a boom there goes your sanity
Ah, I just lost my entire party to the shambler but this....
soothes and sedates my frustration.
A momentary abatment!
Is it normal to accidentally summon the shambler and then accidentally beat it?
@@ibraheemshuaib8954 I don't know my friend
@@ibraheemshuaib8954 Idk man. I just went to get my trinkets back from the shrieker and ended up accidently killing the birb. Sadly, I got one of the worst buffs from that, 33% disease resist. Its also, on my Flagellant.
@@ibraheemshuaib8954 That's how all my battles go
Loved the different VAs. Gives the whole video a theatrical, dramatic mood, and everybody's unique accounts about the Ancestor, from the Countess's villainous dramatics to the Siren's frankness and nervous energy or the Prophet's senile ramblings, feels like I'm watching some kind of documentary about a serial killer (probably a more accurate description than not of the Ancestor). Amazing stuff, loved it.
This is S-tier level work my friend
Thank you Renara! Your performance is amazing as always, really channel that lawful evil aristocrat.
I've just started listening to this video, and holy crap my lady, you've already captivated me for such a beautiful parasitic character. :P In all seriousness, I like what you've done already. :D And the videos before this have been pretty amazing as well. Good job everyone all around! :D
Also, this was a stellar cast. The voice acting for each boss was brilliantly done, and I'd love to see and/or hear them again on the channel.
If I can I certainly will. It's been a ton of fun (if a bit heavy on the throat)
He made all these plans to lure heroes for blood sacrifice and I beat the bloodmoon with zero deaths lmao
Beat him at his own game. Very good.
I guess the only blood it got was from injuries 😆
The man. The legend.
You beat the final boss with no deaths? Nice.
@@thermophile1695 2-man squad strats
This video is beyond insanity. The voice acting, editing and visuals are all Redhook quality. Seriously well done to all who made this.
Rewatching this, I think I had a small realization. A True Deathless win, ultimately, beats the Ancestor and your suggested plan that he had. And that’s accomplished either with the perseverance of half a team (Hell, even Reynauld and Dismas), or by utilizing the many cursed elements of the Estate to defeat the Heart in such a manner, thereby the Ancestor providing the tools for his own defeat.
As poetic as meet your maker is, I think just killing the heart of darkness is enough. The ancestor assumed you, the heir, would be another one of his victims, used to justify his means and revive the heart. Little did he know, through either godly command, idiotic perseverance, or a sure iron will, you successfully beat the heart and destroy his plans, even if you lost some heroes along the way. As they say, the end justifies the means.
Yeah, a true deathless run really should give you a different speech at the end. Perhaps the Ancestor being baffled, annoyed, maybe even a little bit proud as he speaks of his ruined plans even while condescending that it was all pointless. He should definitely have a reaction to you not having sent anyone to die and only shedding the blood of madmen and monsters, even if the bloodshed still ultimately fuels his ambitions.
They did hint that in DD2, there is something special for getting the same 4 heroes to the end of the game with all 5 memory slots filled. Allegedly! I have no idea what that could be, I hope it's a secret ending, and not just unlocks their Hero Shrine skins.
Called grand slam
"We will watch your career with great interest."
Its somewhat disheartening to learn that all the bosses you fight are just victims of the ancestors fuckery. Im interested to see how the story developes with the second game coming soon
Well, the brigands are kind of assholes on their own
And the Hag became a victim to herself
I do feel sorry for the cannons.
I despise the ancestor... No trace of redemption of compassion. No friends, no goals, just a morbid curiosity for things better left alone. I love him...
In (42 minutes and 38 seconds), you will understand the true extend of my failings...
You assembled the Ancestor's Journals into a cohesive, sensible timeline. Awesome
The moral of the story, Hire a ragtag group of misfits to fight some old guy and his failures.
I don't find the Ancestor to be an unreliable narrator so much that everything he says is true, but only from his own point of view... which is warped at best.
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Once you familiarize yourself with the narrator, you usually can get an idea of what he means.
He's unreliable in the sense that his knowledge of the otherworldly isn't fully true; everyone isn't just one flesh, but rather their own individuals, who preserve in the end.
I wonder if he was still sane when he contacted the heir, some far-off nephew probably living a relatively affluent life in some port, brought here to avenge his stupidity. Poor man whoever he was, hell, he probably thought the ancestor was still alive, but no, when he arrived he found a near-abandoned town and a madman, with only two scoundrels to protect himself, or maybe he lured the heir in to accelerate the process, nonetheless, the heir will know the tragic extent of their failings.
Because let us not forget, in the crimson court the high society invites YOU, the player to partake in their debauchery, maybe to feast on you, to laugh at your demise, or just for a dance which you might return different from. Of course, instead of a daring young heir, they would welcome a pack of hardened mercenaries.
I think to a degree, he wasn't really writing to any family in particular. In the end quote, he said the "Great Family of Man" so he was likely referring to humanity in general. It could also be that he made a clone of himself as a description of the painting claim the pictures have an uncanny resemblance to you.
I like to think that the Heir goes on all the expeditions too, but just doesn’t fight. Like he commands them while there.
@@Saladin0127 I'm pretty sure that is how it is, which is why retreating is a thing. I'm pretty sure you carry all the items as well.
Lore speed run: the ancestor was an asshole with a pinch of eldrich gods.
The way this is done reminds me of Fallout New Vegas' endings, how each character talks during the section regarding them. I love it.
It's really cool seeing all the lore put together like this in such a natural progression. Really puts a lot of terrible actions into perspective when you see and infer what led him to each terrible deed. Excellent work!
Honoured to have been able to add my own little contribution to this project. Massive well done to everybody involved :)
We tried to warn them about the horrors of the Hamlet. We want to save them from their eternal hell but did not heed our omen. This...place is that of woes and depair where madness consumes the souls of the damned. We are the remnants of a madman's dream. Heed our warning heir and turn back, or be devoured by the ancient evil that has imprisoned us.
I mean the theory that he sent the letter so that you'd send more people to their deaths and complete the ritual is somewhat supported by the game mechanics.
On blood Moon difficulty if you lose more than... I think it was 12 heroes, the game automatically ends in a lose condition. This could be because 13 was the number of sacrifices the heart needed to fully revive. Then again I could just be reading way too much into this.
No, you're 100% right. We don't know if that *was* the ancestors intention, but yes, every death does contribute to the heart's power, and it is specified that the blood moon lose condition *is* the heart taking over the manor.
But then wouldn't the death of the countless human enemies count to the sacrefice?
@@SSFplayer2 possibly. Though it could also be that lives of a certain qualify are required to complete the ritual.
@@nathanielthomson6600 fair
@@SSFplayer2 another fact worth considering is that if you take more than a year to face the heart of darkness on blood moon you also automatically lose the run. So it's not necessarily that the lives of the heroes were needed but that their deaths can accelerate the completion of the ritual. Which would suggest that not all lives are equal in the eyes of the ritual.
Holy shit, you are quite the story teller. I loved the voice acting in this, especially the Countess. I greatly enjoyed your previous lore videos and this is just on a new level, an amazing 42 minutes of my life spent. I’m looking forward to your future projects and I hope to see you grow, I’ll make sure to share this around!
It is said that" those who play with the devil's toys shall be brought by decree to weld his sword" amazing video keep up the good work ,the match is struk and a star is born. P.S excellent voice acting for everyone.
This was magnificent from the art to the voice acting just all of it! Now It gets me pumped for the Darkest Dungeon 2 and the story's and lore it holds.
I like the necromancers accent. I love the other performances too.
This is amazing, the production quality is breath taking and it makes me want to go back...back...to the Darkest Dungeon.
This version of the Prophet's story fits so well with the sequel storyline so far, the idea that he KNEW the Ancestor was bringing about the end of the world but no one would listen. Also the idea that somehow he was being kept alive, maybe there was some force opposite the Heart that was using all of it's strength to keep one person on the path to help save the world. Then when the Prophet saw the heart maybe he saw that no matter what he did he would fail and that he would then (perhaps as punishment) have to live forever in hell because he couldn't die.
i mean, the ancestor definitely didnt plan to kill his guests with the wine... he openly says theyve been drinking blood wine for a while, and this is just the latest vintage
Great job! Can't wait for the story of DD2.
Thanks and I can't wait to hear what you have in store for DD2
I don't even play Darkest Dungeon but this video was very enjoyable to watch/listen, plus the voice acting was awesome! So much character, I love it :D
Oh, hey! How funny I find you here. How'd you come across this?
eldritch gods?
"heavy hunter breathing noises"
Why... the fuck is this disliked, VO work is very very well done and the lore is accurate, the art work done using the assets are all fitting too so just why? Well done all who worked on this
This video is fantastic. I love the effort put into it.
Thanks! Seen your stuff too, big fan. :D
@@MiskatonicMemorialist
This was a great, timeline documentary film on the ancestor and the tragic extent of his “failings”. And no, I cannot leave after answering the call.
So happy I got to work with you on this project and absolutely LOVE how it turned out! Keep up the amazing work, and I hope I get to work with you again soon!
Incredible! I always wanted more lore videos on the fame. This was far better than I expected, well done
Lore in a nuthsell:
Ancestor does a terrible thing that causes trouble, so he makes another terrible thing to avoid consequences
As someone that doesnt care all to much about lore while playing but wants to know after playing i realy love videos like this. It reminds me of "VaatiVidya"s videos on Dark Soul lore ....for those that dont know that is high Praise ^^. well done and the Va's give this a realy creepy vibe (wich i love)
You got a discord or something this is cool as shit. God damn masterpiece.
Soooooooon...
@@MiskatonicMemorialist is soon over? :c
@@mumkhar7892 Yes.
discord.gg/QZn5xUPX
@@MiskatonicMemorialist ty good Sir
Not gonna lie I'm a minute in and know darkest dungeon lore but this just feels amazing to hear
The countess learned a very valuable lesson, sometimes humans are more monstrous than any eldritch abomination..
if the hearth wanted blood, couldnt he just send the undead army over the townsfolk or the brigands?
i think that the countess is a being that used to be part of the beings that live in the heart of darkness, perhaps a parasyte of some kind.
My theory is he committed suicide to become one with the heart and inherent its power, and in doing so, lost control of his undead army. So they just follow his last orders: defend the manner.
Anyone entering the manner has to deal with the spooky scary skeletons, but the skeletons will never leave the manner.
This was incredibly fun to watch and the variety of different voice actors gave it a great variety
Amazing story told in an exquisite way. Thank you for all the effort put into this : )
This work is the DEFINITION of underrated
Old Man ruins everything: The Movie, The Game
I'm under the impression that this Ancestor isn't a nice guy...
Perhaps we would learn more about the Ancestor's deceptions in the next game!
I’m so very excited to see this channel grow because let’s face it with this level of work it’s inevitable that your channel will grow it’s just so darn diddly good.
FANTASTIC voice-work! I’m in love with this!
Its kinda ironic, that this video just happened to be in my reccomended videos when I was in the process of thinking about a concept for the Villain of my new D&D campaign^^
What’s the Character called exactly? Is it a king or a noble like the ancestor?
This might be the best history for a so ambiguous game I have ever seen.
It ties very well whith the tone of the game, and utilizes every hint we have piece it together all of the Ancestor's actions and it's effects when we, the Successor, arive.
OMG WHAT A HIDDEN GEM!!!!!!!! Ive been finding lore vids for the Darkest dungeon but all i found we Ok lore vids BUT THIS IS NEXT LVL!!!!!
LOVE THE VOICE NARRATION
Fantastic work! The quality is top marks and it makes the game even richer for me now, having the timeline setup in order to see the slow decent into madness. This is the first video I've seen from this channel, but I definitely plan to watch more! Keep up the awesome work!
Thank you! Take a look at some of the older ones like the Marvin Seo Journals or the Creatures Collectors.
35:37 - yes, we don't know how much time had passed since the letter was sent, but it wasn't "months" or even "years". Decades sounds more probable. When you embark on infinite harvest mission (CoM DLC), the Ancestor says: "The poor Miller - thrice a victim. The seasons took his livelihood, I took his land, and now, *uncountable years* later, the comet has taken his humanity."
Agreed. That was just to drive home the point that we're coming to the Estate after years of neglect and ruin. Not even the Ancestor knows how much time has past.
Local Man Ruins Everything
Darkest Dungeon, also known as "Local Man Ruins Everything: The Game".
i really like it how it shows all his screw up connecting one to another in an chronological order. but it make you wonder, the duchess was already a monster before hand, that would imply that there are others and how her blood gave the ancestor a vision of the old ones. She could be connected to them as well.
This deserves more attention
The Ancestor? Idk, I made a whole movie already, plus the follow-up. ;)
i have been waiting for a lore video like this for YEARS!!!! thank you so much!! alright, time to watch it lol
This is amazing as a long time Darkest Dungeon I’m so happy people still make Darkest Dungeon content
Absolutely magnificent performance for the characters and outstanding explanation of the lore.
I was glad to see interest on the game, but after seeing the sheer quality of the video I am no less than overjoyed!
Now this, this is art
This just brings out the need on knowing more what will happen in DD2 now. Ugh.
I'd never expect a channel with 1k subscribers to produce such a high quality video. Terrific work, keep it up!
Imagine if the ancestor accidentally slept with the countess lol
I've been listening to Lores before , You made a goddamn MASTERPIECE!
Really love your video man 😄
Thank you!
Holy smokes, this was so well produced and voiced! Awesome!
That's a brilliant job. You guys managed to tell the whole story keeping the narrative. Bravo
Wow! This is the best explaination of the lore about the ancestor Ive ever seen. Thank you sir!
This was just incredible, absolutely amazing work on this, and it was done to such a high level of quality too, simply astounding!
How do you only have 1.3k subs?! This is seriously quality stuff!
A monster unlike any other, known as the..... Algorithm.
voice acting storytelling and pictures very good 10/10 video
I haven’t played this game, and don’t plan too, but the lore is awesome. This is exactly the kind of in depth story about DD that I was looking for! Thank you so much! Great job you guys. I can tell how much love was poured into this.
You all did a great job! (Liked, commented, and subbed)
Just beat the game for the first time and wanted a few looming questions answered which led me to this video, and dear lord did it deliver.
4:10 and 5:30
This seems wrong though.
The final cutscene of Crimson Court clearly portrays him as creating this "Wine" made from the blood of the Countess, because of his degeneracy.
He himself drank from the blood, but only a little, hence the wording of a "single drop", and from what is explained, it seems to hint that he wasn't only seeking new "experiences", it almost looks like he did this as symbolic vengeance towards the Countess.
She wanted to consume the Ancestor, so the Ancestor consumed her.
He unleashed the Crimson Curse as accident, and only "now" when he is older, does he reflect upon his hypocrisy, and hedonistic ways.
Basically, you can imagine it with in-game mechanics that the nobles immediatelly became cursed by drinking the whole wine, but since the Ancestor drank only a drop, he experienced an incredible amount of "Stress" and saw a vision.
It's plausible that his motivation was just his own degeneracy but it raises the question of why serve it to his guests? The way he talks about the Court in the prior cutscenes and opening, leads us to believe that he hated the Court. If it was a self-serving motivation, why bring it to the Court to share with others?
While he did drink the blood, I assumed it was by accident. He was still raising his glass for a toast, about to reveal the truth behind the wine, when everyone began to transform, since they just started drinking as soon as they got the glasses. He drops his glass in shock, and a "single drop" that fell from his glass, gifted him with the vision. A full drink or swig would have driven him mad and transformed him like everyone else.
The hypocrisy part I'm not sure I understand since he is adamant about how he refused to be labeled a hypocrite. Which is why he allowed the Court's degeneracy in the first place. He was a slave to his own vices, but in hindsight those were lesser when compared to someone like the Baron.
@@MiskatonicMemorialist "...why serve it to his guests?"
Why not?
The Ancestor - at this time - is a slave of hedonistic impulse. Most people such as him, and the rest of the court were people who liked to "experiment" out of boredom.
Sure, he could drink it alone, but if he enjoyed his pleasures alone, then why would he have the court in the first place? Hence it makes sense for him to "share" this new experience rather than doing so alone.
"...I assumed it was by accident."
As I looked more into it, yeah. It does seem more like an accident indeed. I imagine he was taking the glass to his lips just as it all began, and he accidently "kissed" his drink (as we commonly refer to, in my country, when someone takes the most gentle of sips). :p
"The hypocrisy part I'm not sure I understand..."
I worded things poorly, so I am to blame on this one.
What I meant to say is that "back then" the Ancestor was just like the rest of the court, or at least he mostly was. And though he did despise some of the folk in that court, he did not voice his oppinion for fear of being branded as a hypocrite.
The very Ancestor, now at an older age, realizes the error and decadence in his ways, and I was using it to further justify it as to why I thought that he "shared" his wine without malice, as opposed to wishing to poison the court, as this video claimed it to be. :p
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We put the caveat of "Perhaps" as to his reasoning, since there are alot of theories about why he did what he did, because it was such a weird thing to do.
I will say that him being bored was definitely the cause for a majority of problems. So it's definitely a possibility that he did just want to engage in some light hearted cannibalism. (Victorians am I right :p)
My theory was that he just wanted to humiliate his peers in a sadistic prank, given the degeneracy of the Court, and since he hated most (if not all) of them, it's not out of the realm of possibility. Would be a fitting punishment, since in his eyes, they were parasites who feasted at his expense. Raises his glass for the toast, but doesn't actually drink it.
The other theory was just a good ol fashion poisoning, since it was the blood of an Eldritch monster which for all he knew was toxic.
I welcome any discussion on the Ancestor, since he's such a fasinating character. Given how much he messed up and that's just what we know, DD2 will probably reveal even more horrible stuff.
The best lore video of any game I have and probably ever will see!
Truely magnigicent presentation of the one that is responsible for the malignant and twisted horrors infestating his own land.
Oh, and also adding pigs into my List of Phobias.
Wow I've been waiting for a channel like this, hope you're hyped for Darkest Dungeon 2 as well
The path of a true sigma male is long and arguous
For your theory at the end, there’s just one issue with it, he doesn’t need us to bring the heart to full power. Remember, in the higher difficulties the heart becomes unstoppable through two ways, by losing enough heroes or after 99 weeks. If he was intentionally trying to become part of the heart to obtain unlimited power, he would want heroes to stay away while he’s vulnerable. He’s now a timeless entity, the difference of a few weeks doesn’t matter. Also, then the ghosts wouldn’t be guiding you away from the hamlet to avoid stirring the heart, because that would just make the heart’s triumph inevitable.
This is an amazing video and I so desperately wanted to love the game for there is much about it to love.
"He needed a way to rid himself of these...parasites."
- Should've chosen Rapture.
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
@@MiskatonicMemorialist "No" say the ancient Tomes, "it belongs to the eldritch being buried under your castle!" 🤣
wonderful vids, it feel like a movie!
I don't think I've ever commented on a video before, but I had to appreciate how amazing this is. From the voice work to the in-depth examination of the lore through a narrative lens, I am taken a back by how incredible the detail, and the effort that was put into it. Thank you for making this, it truly was a delight to experience. The ending gives me chills.
Love the videos and learned a lot more of the game that I thought I knew! Keep up the good work and hope to see more when Darkest Dungeon 2 comes out!
This channel is criminally underrated! Damn thats quality! Hope you keep continuing to grow and get the support you deserve!
It is indeed. I ran into the guy when I pointed out a bit of lore I noticed (that being the frequent use of the alchemical symbol of olive oil) and offered my vocal services. Very glad I did.
And that was how I met Bread Bringer. Discussing the Church of the Holy Olive Oil.
@@MiskatonicMemorialist Both are good for cooking.