A lot of people are asking where Library of Alexandria is, and here's the answer: It didn't have enough points to make the list, surprisingly. It is at 94 points.
There are still so many categories you can make them up from pretty much anything, I think there are more top10 lists that doesn't have a video than those he already covered
You know, I kinda wanna see how Strip Mine ranks in comparison to all the other cards in Vintage. The best way to find out would be doing "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)".
Just look at all the cards that are restricted in Vintage -- that's your list. Case in point: Library of Alexandria is clearly the most powerful land -- colorless or otherwise -- ever printed, and it's nowhere in today's video.
Okay so we gonna talk about how much time and effort it takes to make these videos? Like deadass he has to research all of this stuff guys, appreciate it with a like!
oh god my bank acount is screwed. i have a habt of watching these top 10s and going "hmm, like that card, let me go pick up a set of 4 on amazon or ebay..." I CANT AFFORD TO BE DOING THAT WITH LANDS
I forgot stripe mine and wasteland tap for Mana! Most of the time they go directly to the graveyard, destroy an opponents land, and counts as a land per turn (cheaters try to circumvent this drawback)
Inkmoth has given me so much joy through the years. As a commander player, having the board wrathed every other turn makes you value manlands a whole lot more.
I'm surprised where Mutavault ended up on this list. But then again I don't play legacy or vintage because I clearly don't know what the top 10 Vintage cards are (minus the Power 9)
Outsider Sidaroth it is the worst one that you could possibly play in commander although I have seen people run it. It was supposed to be an answer to the 2 cycles of enchantments that flip into land from ixalan block where it was first printed. I remember a couple of the flip lands being good but I don’t remember how well they did in standard. It may have shown up in sideboards but I kinda doubt that it saw much mainboard play. It is never going to get any points outside of standard because there are better options for older formats but it is still in standard at least as long as theros is since it was reprinted there so there is still a chance it could see some play if we get a new land like field of the dead power level but probably still a mediocre sideboard card.
@@jakeapplegate6642 lots of modern players play it. it kills your opponents "single" mana source, and at the same time "fixes" your mana. Jund players hate when you turn them off thier one green source well getting that one color your need to take over the game. I run it in Skred Red, and U/W players hate it when thier colonnade gets killed and they don't have any creatures in play and i thine out my deck and drop a stormbreath dragon.
I feel like a waste should count because they aren't essential, aren't as easily fetchable as the other basic lands, and overall are often surpassed by a colorless land.
Corey I’m sure those would have made the list except that none of them tap for colorless mana or any mana for that matter. Did you skip the part where they have to tap for colorless mana to make the list? Also all lands are colorless so there’s that too.
@@Ninjamanhammer well, library is restricted in vintage, and workshops is completely untouched. It's busted in a shops deck, but if you're not running expensive artifacts, you would be better off running elephant graveyard. Library is nuts in pretty much every deck in vintage, and therefore has a lot more reach.
The Innistrad block colorless lands, Gavony Township etc. They are best when played in their respective two color guilds as they augment those decks' strategies. GW is all about going wide from white and going big with green. Makes it so you always win board stalls but its just a land.
I'd love to see a 3rd Nexus land so a deck can be done around them. Slinkmoth Nexus T= Add ◇ 2= Slinkmoth Nexus becomes a 2/2 artifact Blinkmoth creature with Skulk and Hexproof until end of turn 2,T= Target Blinkmoth gets +2/+2, Skulk, and Hexproof until end of turn.
You could also sacrifice the artifact lands to feed Kuldotha forgemaster. If you sacrifice the forgrmaster itself you only need 1 additional artifact to be able to put anything from the library into play.
@@NizzahonMagic Goblin welder. You can generate mana and them swap them from something in the graveyard. If my legacy mud didnt run 4 chalice and 2 trinis to protect from other decks, Id gladly play goblin welder (R) and some red artifact lands.
Looking at the #10, could you make a list for all cards (except basic lands) counting only points in Vintage? It might be a way to get the actual strongest cards in Magic's history.
This channel does a really good job of acknowledging that there are lots of ways to play the game, and that there really isnt a way to determine the objective strength of a card. Different formats make cards weaker or stronger, and vintage is just one way to play. Why not just use Cedh standards?
Hmmm. I guess Rishodan port from masques, yavamaya hollow, ancient tomb for sure, city of traitors for sure, mutavault! Ghost quarter, darksteel citadel,
HankusTheTankus All the lands here save for Rishadan Port and Strip Mine can be used way more aggressively, and have way fewer hoops to jump through than Field of the Dead.
I'm unable to look up the price of Mishra's Workshop when I owned it. This is one I wish I could go back in time to hold on to. Mana burn was the biggest problem against it for a long time. Also, many of the artifacts were too clunky to even consider playing. It hurts to look at the price now. I already sold my Liliana's when she peaked, and now I have to worry that she's going to spike one day. Really, the colorless stuff always seems to be the most valuable. People knew Mishra's Workshop was a promising card, but many who even dared to try it got mana burned or had other problems with it that just don't exist anymore.
How to get Library of Alexandria into the Top Ten: Nr. 1 Wasteland, Strip Mine & Ghostquarter; =3 Lands of the same kind in 1 slot, well done! Nr. 3 Ancient Tomb + Nr. 7 City of Traitors =2 Lands of the same kind each got its own slot, combined => 1 slot free Nr. 2 Mutavault + Nr. 6 Mishras Factory =2 Lands of the same kind each got its own slot, combined => 1 slot free including as well Nr. 4 Inkmoth- & Blinkmoth Nexus => 1 slot free But the question is still, would Library of Alexandria get it?
Crazy to see because I don't play old formats, but City of Traitors and Ancient Tomb being considered good cards is really shocking. You could probably get these for free from other players if you asked them when they came out.
Ancient Tomb was always a powerhouse, even when it first came out. It was understood that the mana boost could outweifh the life cost, as it let you get your bombs out before your opponenet could.
Yep. Take a look at artifact-heavy decks in any format -- there is so much artifact synergy that making it so literally every card in your deck -- including lands! -- is an Artifact, that it is still really really good.
@@NizzahonMagic yeah you are right about that. All That Glitter decks would love artifact lands now that I think about it. And that's just the Silver/Gold rank jank I run into.
You replace a basic with an artifact land. You play land for turn ( the exact thing you were going to do anyhow) For 0 mana and 0 cards, your artifact total/artifact etb goes up by 1 uncounterably and it doesn't even start out tapped. Yeah, they're broken.
sadly with mox's ban and power creep affinity is no longer a thing in modern :(. mox was the wrong ban, urza needed to be banned along with wish karn, and 3 drop teferi. static walkers and urza were mistakes
Mox was a neccesary ban. Mox was not banned for its use in Urza decks, but because it was problematic throughout years of enabling unhealthy strategies in modern.
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A lot of people are asking where Library of Alexandria is, and here's the answer: It didn't have enough points to make the list, surprisingly. It is at 94 points.
If it didn't get banned, I wonder where it would fall lol
Hey, Nizzahon!
Could you please do a ranking of the Basic Land's??
@@Paulthored No.
@@NizzahonMagic Fair enough. To much effort, not enough gain, eh?
@@NizzahonMagic plz
You know a list is stacked when number 10 is Mishra's Workshop.
Indeed!
Lol I ment factory
Can you do a video on cards that have points in six or more formats? It would be so cool to see the top 10 multi-format all stars!!!
Yes!
Great idea
It would be cool!
Island
Richard Nixon ooooh good point. Let’s add non-land as a stipulation (or at least, non-basic)
I really like how you have multiple similar cards take up the same spot on some lists. Definitely makes the video more interesting
Cool, thanks!
It's pretty impressive that there is still new topics for this series
There are still so many categories you can make them up from pretty much anything, I think there are more top10 lists that doesn't have a video than those he already covered
You know, I kinda wanna see how Strip Mine ranks in comparison to all the other cards in Vintage. The best way to find out would be doing "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)".
Okay but why do I want to see that Force of will is at number one?
😄
Just look at all the cards that are restricted in Vintage -- that's your list. Case in point: Library of Alexandria is clearly the most powerful land -- colorless or otherwise -- ever printed, and it's nowhere in today's video.
One day Nizzahon will make Top 10 Vintage Cards, but will put the Power 9 in it just to troll you :)
What will you do when he finally makes that video? Where will you go? Will you be able to find purpose yet again?
14:31 "I used the lands to destroy the lands. It nearly manascrewed me. But the Vial is down. It always will be. Thalia is inevitable."
Okay so we gonna talk about how much time and effort it takes to make these videos? Like deadass he has to research all of this stuff guys, appreciate it with a like!
Thanks!
More power to people like you!
I was kinda expecting you to make a top 10 colorless one drops. I don't know if you've done it already, but I was curious to see it
I know the Tron lands are named after Voltron, but for some reason I always think about the 80s movie with the weird sport inside the computer.
Same lol
2:27 "they sharted" lol i love your videos not making fun just noting it
Pre-Watch: Expecting Zhalfarin Void.
As soon as Mishra's Workshop appears: Nevermind.
Hahahah
So from this video we can assume one important fact. Out of the two big brothers, Urza was better engineer, while Mishra was a better farmer.
Mishra was all about those artifact creatures. Urza didn't start using them until after the war.
Whenever I see a rishadan port I see a city of brass, then an angry player
LMAO
oh god my bank acount is screwed.
i have a habt of watching these top 10s and going "hmm, like that card, let me go pick up a set of 4 on amazon or ebay..." I CANT AFFORD TO BE DOING THAT WITH LANDS
I forgot stripe mine and wasteland tap for Mana! Most of the time they go directly to the graveyard, destroy an opponents land, and counts as a land per turn (cheaters try to circumvent this drawback)
Another stong thing about Ghost Quarter is that it can also hit basic lands (Which is extremely relevant in Ponza match-ups)
All lands are colorless :^)
0:49 oh dang you got me
Inkmoth has given me so much joy through the years. As a commander player, having the board wrathed every other turn makes you value manlands a whole lot more.
Maze of Ith was going to the store to get points, but it suddenly returned home.
good content. Not like typical click baity top ten lists. Well researched.
Thanks!
I'm surprised where Mutavault ended up on this list. But then again I don't play legacy or vintage because I clearly don't know what the top 10 Vintage cards are (minus the Power 9)
How does the more Standard friendly Field of Ruin hold up to the big boys of Land Destruction?
Outsider Sidaroth it is the worst one that you could possibly play in commander although I have seen people run it. It was supposed to be an answer to the 2 cycles of enchantments that flip into land from ixalan block where it was first printed. I remember a couple of the flip lands being good but I don’t remember how well they did in standard. It may have shown up in sideboards but I kinda doubt that it saw much mainboard play. It is never going to get any points outside of standard because there are better options for older formats but it is still in standard at least as long as theros is since it was reprinted there so there is still a chance it could see some play if we get a new land like field of the dead power level but probably still a mediocre sideboard card.
@@jakeapplegate6642 Field of Ruin has seen play in modern. It's not nearly as weak as you think.
@@jakeapplegate6642 lots of modern players play it. it kills your opponents "single" mana source, and at the same time "fixes" your mana. Jund players hate when you turn them off thier one green source well getting that one color your need to take over the game. I run it in Skred Red, and U/W players hate it when thier colonnade gets killed and they don't have any creatures in play and i thine out my deck and drop a stormbreath dragon.
It just less good in CMDR since the other two opponents get it, but I still find it adequate, it's cheap too.
where do you find data on these cards? is there a website where i can type in a card and the zite will tell me the card's tournament results?
Mtggoldfish if I'm not mistaken
Mtgtop8 too
no colourless one drops video? :(
First is Wayfarers Bauble...
*Commander's Quarters has entered the chat*
Second is Astrolabe
Sol Ring.....
Back in the day Tron lands also had the issue that mana burn was a thing. Not much of a problem if carefully managed, but losing a life to it sucked.
That's a good point.
2:38 Mishra's Workshop is also legal in Commander. Good luck affording one though for your artifact deck.
Top ten basic lands when?
It's funny because there are 10 with snow covered basics.
@@justinanderson2631 aren't Wastes also basic? I forget
@@corey2232 oh yeah, but would it even make the list? Lol
When are we getting Snow-Covered Wastes?
Corey it might eldrqzi and mud decks in modern legacy and vintage generally play a singleton copy for cards like assasins trophy and path.
In my Treva EDH, theres a focus on land power.
It runs Tabernacle at Penrdell Vale . And gaias cradle.
How about a video on lands that ONLY come into play tapped?
So, most of the list are the good Manlands, followed by the Scrys?
"and at number one I actually have three cards" (Nizzahon, every top ten)
When the Tron lands are ranked #9..... Yeah, this list is going to be stacked.
I feel like a waste should count because they aren't essential, aren't as easily fetchable as the other basic lands, and overall are often surpassed by a colorless land.
Pre-watch guesses...
#1 Mishras Workshop
#2 Tabernacle
#3 Library
#4 Strip Mine
#5 Maze
#6 Bazaar
#7 Urza's collectively
#8 Ancient Tomb
#9 Factory
#10 Wasteland
How did you do?
Have you ever applied your scoring system to all cards? I'm curious what the overall highest scoring cards of all time would be.
Probably the Island.
Probably something standard friendly and boring like farseek, shock, or llanowar elves.
Power 9 minus timetwister would all be way up there.
I'm curious what the top ten non-basic lands are?
Would love to see white be next!
Since white has the least amount of ramp it would be interesting to see how the list turns out
It's shame that the most powerful colorless producing land in the game didn't make it on the list. Rip library of Alexandria. 😔
Tabernacle is also a contender in many decks.
Hell, Bazar of Baghdad is a monster in the right decks too
Corey I’m sure those would have made the list except that none of them tap for colorless mana or any mana for that matter. Did you skip the part where they have to tap for colorless mana to make the list? Also all lands are colorless so there’s that too.
@@jakeapplegate6642 Library DOES tap for colourless mana.
Workshop is more powerful.
@@Ninjamanhammer well, library is restricted in vintage, and workshops is completely untouched. It's busted in a shops deck, but if you're not running expensive artifacts, you would be better off running elephant graveyard. Library is nuts in pretty much every deck in vintage, and therefore has a lot more reach.
Just goes to show how incredibly crucial lands are to the game that the best colorless lands are the ones that destroy other lands.
*Pushes glasses up.
Um, actually I think you’ll find that all lands except Dryad Arbor are colorless.
Good one.
The Innistrad block colorless lands, Gavony Township etc. They are best when played in their respective two color guilds as they augment those decks' strategies. GW is all about going wide from white and going big with green. Makes it so you always win board stalls but its just a land.
They don't have colorless identities, so they were not elligble for this list. That said, Township wouldn't have made a list this stacked anyway
An idea for another mtg top 10: top 10 land cycles
I'd love to see a 3rd Nexus land so a deck can be done around them.
Slinkmoth Nexus
T= Add ◇
2= Slinkmoth Nexus becomes a 2/2 artifact Blinkmoth creature with Skulk and Hexproof until end of turn
2,T= Target Blinkmoth gets +2/+2, Skulk, and Hexproof until end of turn.
You could also sacrifice the artifact lands to feed Kuldotha forgemaster. If you sacrifice the forgrmaster itself you only need 1 additional artifact to be able to put anything from the library into play.
Yep, there are about a million Artifact synergies that make the Artifact lands super good, with Forgemaster being one of many.
@@NizzahonMagic Goblin welder. You can generate mana and them swap them from something in the graveyard.
If my legacy mud didnt run 4 chalice and 2 trinis to protect from other decks, Id gladly play goblin welder (R) and some red artifact lands.
Need an honoable mention for Library of Alexandria.
YES
Only 94 points.
the multiple cards per rating is a good way to show cards doing the same effects
Meeshra's Workshop, Meeshra's Factory, and Reeshadan Port haha :p
i thought to see the Demon Cathedral from the demon list here but then i noticed it has not enought points. What place would it be?
We need a ranking for Basic Lands!
You know it's a crazy powerful list when #10 comes in at 100+ points.. buckle up guys
Looking at the #10, could you make a list for all cards (except basic lands) counting only points in Vintage? It might be a way to get the actual strongest cards in Magic's history.
This channel does a really good job of acknowledging that there are lots of ways to play the game, and that there really isnt a way to determine the objective strength of a card. Different formats make cards weaker or stronger, and vintage is just one way to play. Why not just use Cedh standards?
Have you ever done a "top cards ever" list? and will you ever do one if not?
Hmmm. I guess Rishodan port from masques, yavamaya hollow, ancient tomb for sure, city of traitors for sure, mutavault! Ghost quarter, darksteel citadel,
I bet a dollar that Wastelands is in the list... but I don't know enough about rotating formats to know if it can be in the first 3 positions. :)
Ok, I haven't seen the video yet. But I'm predicting #1 is the Urza Tron Lands
Have you ever done a top 10 cards? Like top 10 cards of all time points wise?
If I had to take a guest, I would said that the basic land are top 1-5.
How powerful is Field of the Dead compared to these cards?
It's meh
HankusTheTankus All the lands here save for Rishadan Port and Strip Mine can be used way more aggressively, and have way fewer hoops to jump through than Field of the Dead.
I have yet to pull this off... but using Awakening of Vitu-Ghazi on Inkmoth Nexus. Boom 🤯
Ummmm technically all lands are colorless 0/10 doesn't understand the rules of magic.
I kid, sweet list
Actually, Dryad Arbor is green!
Nice work Doc :) I wonder if Westvale Abbey is anywhere near this list?
Where is maze of ith,
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
And bazar?
You were right, I was very close. Maybe next time!
Will you do a video on lands that don't produce any mana?
Already did it.
@@NizzahonMagic Right, forgot about that, was literally thinking about that video when I wrote that comment :|
I'd really like to see a top 10 pro gamer snacks list
How are you doing lands that produce 2-3 colors or have dual colored activated abilities?
Interested in seeing what 2-10are. Pretty sure the number 1 is the eye.
Edit: That moment when you realize your top pic didn't even make the list....
Eye of ugin does not produce mana
@@cax1175 Not sure what that has to do with being a land.
monocolor decks are actually a good place to put these, usually
huh guess bazaar of bhagdad seeing literally only vintage play kinda limits it.
I'm unable to look up the price of Mishra's Workshop when I owned it. This is one I wish I could go back in time to hold on to. Mana burn was the biggest problem against it for a long time. Also, many of the artifacts were too clunky to even consider playing. It hurts to look at the price now. I already sold my Liliana's when she peaked, and now I have to worry that she's going to spike one day. Really, the colorless stuff always seems to be the most valuable. People knew Mishra's Workshop was a promising card, but many who even dared to try it got mana burned or had other problems with it that just don't exist anymore.
ha you lost 1.5k
Mishra's Factory is now legal in Modern.
Yep
Do a top 10 basic lands next!
Out of curiosity what would Wastes score be. I would imagine most of it's points are in Standard or Block.
Block stopped having meaningful championships by the time Wastes were printed, so no points there
Would you cite where you get the pt/mc, gp results from?
mtgtop8.com primarily
I’m somewhat surprised Weatvale Abbey wasn’t on the list.
It has a score in the 60s, but also does not technically have colorless identity - Ormendahl is Black.
Nizzahon Magic I thought about that after the fact. 😅
I think this top 10 list has the most cards in it ever, because there are so many "groups"
If you had counted wastes, would it have made the list?
good call grouping so many of them
How to get Library of Alexandria into the Top Ten:
Nr. 1 Wasteland, Strip Mine & Ghostquarter;
=3 Lands of the same kind in 1 slot, well done!
Nr. 3 Ancient Tomb +
Nr. 7 City of Traitors
=2 Lands of the same kind each got its own slot, combined => 1 slot free
Nr. 2 Mutavault +
Nr. 6 Mishras Factory
=2 Lands of the same kind each got its own slot, combined => 1 slot free
including as well
Nr. 4 Inkmoth- & Blinkmoth Nexus
=> 1 slot free
But the question is still, would Library of Alexandria get it?
Land destruction is so strong because it exploits the rng of your draws
No honorable mention for Cloudpost?
last time i was this early
(seriously i'm always awake right when you upload)
Yeah, Nizzahon's uploades go up around 3-4PM where I am. So I'm able to get them really quickly.
how many points does Wastes have?
Crazy to see because I don't play old formats, but City of Traitors and Ancient Tomb being considered good cards is really shocking. You could probably get these for free from other players if you asked them when they came out.
Ancient Tomb was always a powerhouse, even when it first came out. It was understood that the mana boost could outweifh the life cost, as it let you get your bombs out before your opponenet could.
They are all pre-2011 cards, and most are old frame (pre-2004). That says a lot about nerfing lands in modern MTG...
Rishadan port's biggest impact was making city of brass unplayable
That isn't remotely true. It was certainly not its biggest impact.
Colorless: Void, Given form.
Top ten basic lands!
Love your content! Keep it up
we need a top ten phil foglio!
Seconded
Would artifact lands be OP without affinity?
Yep. Take a look at artifact-heavy decks in any format -- there is so much artifact synergy that making it so literally every card in your deck -- including lands! -- is an Artifact, that it is still really really good.
@@NizzahonMagic yeah you are right about that.
All That Glitter decks would love artifact lands now that I think about it.
And that's just the Silver/Gold rank jank I run into.
You replace a basic with an artifact land.
You play land for turn ( the exact thing you were going to do anyhow)
For 0 mana and 0 cards, your artifact total/artifact etb goes up by 1 uncounterably and it doesn't even start out tapped. Yeah, they're broken.
I wonder what rank eye of ugin is
It doesn't produce mana
@@NizzahonMagic lame
*Sees how many GP tops Darksteel Citadel has* Nice
sadly with mox's ban and power creep affinity is no longer a thing in modern :(. mox was the wrong ban, urza needed to be banned along with wish karn, and 3 drop teferi. static walkers and urza were mistakes
Mox was a neccesary ban. Mox was not banned for its use in Urza decks, but because it was problematic throughout years of enabling unhealthy strategies in modern.
You just suggested banning 3 cards that are all really cool for one mox
Guessing mutavault for number one
No Eldrazi Temple?
Nope, it has a score in the 80s.
@@NizzahonMagic Thanks for the reply, love your channel ;-)!
Mutavault has no points in Pioneer?
Because it was never pioneer legal
Green producing lands?
Should be "lands that tap for colorless mana". All lands except Dryad Arbor are colorless.
Yep, I know this, but chose a name that would be better for the algorithm, and explained what I meant in the video.
The order of this list is surprising.
Top 10 zero drops?
Or Top 0 ten drops