@@brianmuvuti2505 South Africa is just going to become the Somalia of the South and the world will come to think of it as this place of famine and war that goes on for generations. Zimbabwes fate awaits you but on a larger scale and far more serious due to the low rainfall that 66% of the country receives. Cape town is going to be a complete mess, just as Bulawayo became due to lack of concern by the ANC who see it as a foreign place. Go for a trip to Harare and see the starving masses without water, education, health facilities, electricity if you want to see your future. South Africa is dieing and it will not be pleasant for any of its citizens.
Kallie, lets just be honest and frank. If government has the right to take their citizens assets, no one's property is safe. Indian people that own land, or Colored people that own land, Black people not of the same tribe as the ANC, as well as refugees that own land, are not safe. This affects every single person in SA directly and indirectly. Just as per the current political strategy, the ANC makes this fight racial and emotional, which then divides the voters down a color line and when they keep on suggesting that they are going to take farms, then no one cares and the bill passes without any effort. However, with all the land that they have taken already, or land that they have in their control, it has not been shared or redistributed and in 99% of the cases it is lying baron without producing any food or jobs for that matter. We are in trouble and the world needs to take a hard look at what they have allowed to happen here. Our government is failing us, all of us!!
Every government in the world can expropriate land in the national interest and if you do not think we have historic wrongs to right in this country you were clearly subject to apartheid schooling... Do you care what the other 99% of the world's people were taught in their history books are you ok believing the lies you were told?
@@GladIRecognizedABeautifulSoul Well said. Unfortunately those with almost all the economic power in this country will rather run the risk of serious social upheaval than admit past wrongs and allow the government to try to make it right.
@@GladIRecognizedABeautifulSoul You are joking right? People that are 44 year of age now, and younger, where not allowed to vote prior 1994... How did they create this mess? Did they ask their forefathers to come to Africa? Where is the English today on the matter, the Dutch, etc.? Why are they not coming to aid their people?
What is really going in South-Africa that is more interesting than the fact that after a quarter century the ANC have somehow been convinced to keep the economic system in place that both made most whites , and a very few Africans, among the wealthiest middle classes in the world under apartheid and is still doing so now?
David Foster how is this propeganda if he is constantly explaining each and every topic he brings up supporting them with facts of how it is now and how it could be better???? Seriously....
@@truthseeker9011 Here's a quick definition of propaganda: "Information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view." This is exaclty what Afriforum is doing.
But those with prosperity doesn't want to share it and with land prices what they are who do you think can afford to buy land? Sure the ANC is far too neo liberal for my taste and if they were not so conservative in their economic approach things would be much better for their voters and even for everyone else as well. In either case it's not a easy world to live in when the Western capitalist terrorize all states that tries to help their people develop and i hope i can eventually learn how much the ANC's inaction was due to their own planning and how much was enforced trough white monopoly capital and their foreign backers. Remember if they should try serious reform the USA might get more involved and turn this country into another Venezuela or worse.
@@pietersteenkamp5241 I know you, the black supremecist masquerading as a white man. Either your lies are ridiculous or you are niave enought to think that after 25 years of (redistribution of wealth "aka theft") that white people still have all the wealth. Even if they did, they owe blacks nothing. The economic migrants which flooded to the white country and seeked a union of states owe white people trillions in benefits they recieved.
Yes people would buy land from the 10% if the apartheid is introduced and this time controlled by blacks and whites have no equal economic share. That's how white managed to hold on that land in first place
This is GREAT! Thank you Afriforum for your efforts in these cases. The world needs to know the truth of what is happening in the country. I know you will make a difference to the benefits of all South Africans. Thank you!
Yes it's unfortunate that the ANC refuses to do what the vast majority of the people of South-Africa wants them to do. If they had acted democratically we would have rectified many wrongs but unfortunately they always had plenty of conservatives who were as interested in maintaining their own power as any advocate of apartheid.
I don't share same ideologies with Afri-Forum, but I realised long ago that the people of South Africa will suffer because of Identity Politics not Rationale. So if Afri-Forum's intentions are good and without any BOERE-JODE hidden agendas then you deserve support from all South Africans. Everything is falling apart so YES interventions are necessary.
I have written many times to the White House in the US with my concerns about the land issues, the injustices faced by minorities and so forth. I have written to media here and forwarded videos etc. While some may wonder why keep trying, well if you do not try nothing changes and when people are educated about the truth, then change comes. In forty years a govt that calls itself communist and the so called party of the people has managed to destroy/cripple many areas of the country such as economic growth, power, education, the sense of safety, job development/ability, and an expression comes to mind, nothing is as frightening as ignorance in motion because as long as a majority of the people remain oblivious to reality, hands out for "free money" and "free land" and "free everything" they will turn a blind eye to reality. Stop the free and I cannot imagine the consequences of people who are hungry and desperate. Well done Agriforum.
China is communist(like) yet is one of the successful countries to date. are white people still afraid of communism today.I don't mind it but only when it's done right, remember that this is Africa. and many may be open to communism if they feel that democracy and capitalism are not working for them. Most African states admire China and Cuba( Don't know why). Thats the reality, i'm sure some are itching to turn communist and turn to Chin for help on how it did it.
@@kgothatsomoiloa1784 Erm, socially China is Communist, Economically it adopted Capatalism probably because they saw that Communism has NEVER worked economically for any country that has ever implemented it. Educate yourself before commenting
Thank you. Because the onslaught of criminals on society is pure madness. Criminals aren't afraid of the law and have no regard for life. Last night they tried to blast the ATM here. They bombed it 3 times and shot at us with AK47s. Where are they getting the weapons from? When they realised that help was coming, they ran off, without any cash and thank God, without hurting anyone. But others aren't so lucky. Our country is littered with broken hearts and broken families because criminals have more rights and aren't afraid of punishment, because even when they get caught, they know they'll have an easy time in prison. And in some instances, carry on their criminal ways in prison! It's almost a lose-lose situation. We don't live normal lives.
This ANC Government has already shown its disdain for the rule of law and the constitution. All of the ANC members of Parliament failed to defend, uphold and protect the Constitution of the land. They chose instead to protect a President who was corrupt and had stolen public money. The court had ruled that members of Parliament also violated the Constitution and their oath of office by failing to hold Zuma accountable about the spending on his private compound in Nkandla. They simply ignored the court, Zuma was side-lined while the looting of the state continued just like their comrades in Zimbabwe Mugabe style, and exactly how to do it. The ANC elite using Ramaphosa, allowed their members to continue unabated. They saw that the rest of the world would stand by and watch and do nothing while the country is destroyed. I really hope you can convince other Governments. They were unconvinced in the past.
Afriforum is a non-racial and patriotic civil rights movement. That is why the ANC cannot stomach them. Afriforum argues using facts, while the ANC /EFF rely on basic emotions. Afriforum infuriates the ANC/EFF and their PC lapdogs.
Dankie julle!!. Dis hoogtyd dat die Afrikaner opstaan vir sy regte! #buffaloboer Ek voel n draai kom. Al hoe meer Afrikaners kom uit en se dit soos dit is. Ons is n trotse nasie, Maar daardie trots was standing van ons af weg geneem sonder dat ons regtig 100% bewus was. Ons is egter nou! Staan op vir die Afrikaners, ons Taal en waarin ons glo!!#afriforum
The ANC has never been communist and isn't communist today nor are the racist as then odds are we would not still have all the money. Do you know that white people are still significantly over represented in government jobs/consulting and that the salaries are massively higher than the government norm? Is that a sign of racism to you?
Pieter Steenkamp Where on Gods green earth do you get that information and please back it up with facts. The ANC were trained by communists and are in a tripartite agreement with the unions which are communist as it’s in there name. As for jobs in government still being represented by whites is a blatant lie. You clearly don’t live in SA or are the dumbest person in the country which is saying something. But I’ll await your facts to confirm what you’ve said. I won’t be holding my breath.
1: how many farms have already been taken over by the S25 processes, willing buyer, willing seller? 2: of these farms with a black farmer being placed onto these farms, how many have been: a: sold, b: abandoned, c: being farmed subsistently, d: being farmed profitably scientifically and feeding the nation? 3: how much money has already been spent on projects from viable farms handed over to communities? a: of these farms, how many have collapsed entirely? b: back to subsistence farming? c: being farmed profitably to the equivalent or better level to what was taken over?
White South Africans can no longer afford to suffer from masochism and stockholm syndrome. We want to enact our international, CODESA and human rights to self-determination as what is happening in this country is exploitation, abuse and meets the international legal definition of genocide. It would function to hedge governance and hold RSA to higher standards less risking losing citizens to the Cape, rather than them fleeing overseas they remain in the region. You wouldn't need to leave RSA to overseas but would have a less extreme alternative. We would retain human and capital resources. What we are proposing would give you the freedom to continue to live under the current trajectory, treatment inter alia. But to resist a referendum would be tantamount to infringing on our rights and quite frankly the best option for this region. Hedging Governence will lower the risk of the RSA public servents being able to afford to enact communist policies less risking a loss of resources. It's a win win situation. Let everyone consider the freedom to sculpt a harmonious and prosperous future for themselves and their children by hedging governence with self determination of the Cape rather than endure the untenable social, economic and psychological abuse and exploitation at the hands of people with naturally occuring differing interests. You may feel free to remain a citizen of RSA but don't hold us hostage. Say no to being gagged, say no to masochism, say no to not having a say, say no to stockholm syndrome. I guarantee you everyone in RSA will be free of the current dispensation's policies by standing together and demanding self determination of the Cape. Let us plant the seeds of harmony and prosperity. Let us not be coralled and made to be complacent. If you do not prepare you prepare to fail. We need to realise we have been demoralised into subverting our own best self-interests. Let us be custos veritatis, guardians of the truth. And the truth is we need to take the future into our own hands. Changes need to be made and self-determination will apply the pressure required to correct the policies of the current dispensation.
@klaas wertmann Your doubt is the problem. It would be in good faith if the black majority would act in kind and not infringe in our rights. We did give them our country after all, built over 500 years. If need be, Let us rather die free than live on our knees.
Accurate, factual and incisively presented. I can see where they’re coming from. Authentic patriotism is rare in our greed ridden society, where the thirst for retribution has clouded sound judgement. Afriforum seems to be exposing & breaking down deep prejudices.
Thank you Afriforum. We are all depending on your efforts. Please help the world understand that we are only about 8.3% of South Africans paying all the income tax and that we (tax payers) would prosper equally well in any developed economy because like them we work very hard to earn what we have and that it is a lie that we somehow stole it from the poor!! Tell the world not to enable corruption in South Africa and help it kill the goose causing everyone to lose everything - hello Zimbabwe.
@SS9 • The Whites built the Dams to Reserve Water in a water deprived country, they built Eskom without using Tax Payers money, it was the cheapest and best electricity supply in the World. Take a trip to Liberia and taste Africa without the impact of White ingenuity. Then you might be able to engage the Afrikaaner in a rational conversation.
The people in South Africa embraced the opportunity to turn their environment into a manifestation of their mindset. The ongoing process of decivilization and decay strives to bring equilibrium between the quality of the infrastructure and service delivery on the one hand, and the intellectual capacity of the voter on the other hand. This is what democracy is supposed to do. Democracy is a sophisticated system for sophisticated voters, but a death sentence in the wrong hands. Radioisotopes are a sophisticated solution in the hands of a trained oncologist, but very much harmful in ignorant hands. Eventually, there is also correlation between the intellectual capabilities of the average voter and their life expectancy and quality of life. Democracy enforces this phenomenon. Democracy is a system that gives people the power to kill themselves through hunger and disease. Food for thought...
Thank you AfriForum, the blatant double standards needs to come to an end, Land expropriation without compensation is the very policy that crippled all the socialist countries, it will effect each and every one of us especially the poor. Please go and tell the world what the ANC , the communist and eff political elite are doing here, we are 100% behind you and thank you for the action you guys are taking...I’m also going to increase my debit order to AfriForum!
Meanwhile in China purchasing power is skyrocketing and that's even without democracy to help properly allocate internal resources and labor. Meanwhile Trump is taking land for the wall and dropping 7000 bombs in Afghanistan destroying land and farms.... The idea that we have anything to fear from so called communism is rich considering who is terrorizing and bombing the world as we speak.
Pieter Steenkamp China has gone a long way to becoming a market-capitalist-economy , it’s key theme under Deng’s reforms was decentralization , nevertheless it’s still horrible to live in China with no freedom of speech, freedom of religion etc., just ask anyone who lives in Hong Kong, this is the reason for the huge protests the past few months, they don’t want to be part of that Chinese government with even a little communist policies. America’s GDP has a steady growth each quarter, lowest unemployment in 70 years, their economy is doing better than ever under TRUMP. Obama dropped more bombs in Afghanistan than Trump ever did and 50 meters wide land stretching over an exiting border is nothing, there was always a border there and farms are gladly giving up a little more not to be controlled by drug cartels and human traffickers, governments take land to build roads all the time, building a border is not much different, the notion that Trump takes land for the border ludicrous, I don’t know where you heard this crap. There’s overwhelming evidence that this socialist policy specifically “land expropriation without compensation “ crippled economies, caused famine and genocide on ALL the counties who tried it ...Old communist China, old Soviet Union, Vietnam, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe.....please use your google search and make sure of your facts because you’re talking crap here!..If you think communism is not so bad then you need to do some serious research on how tyrannical and murderous communism is ...read the Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, hundreds of millions died under Mao and Stalin(communism)..they murdered way way way more than Hitler ever did!
*Pieter Steenkamp China has gone a long way to becoming a market-capitalist-economy , it’s key theme under Deng’s reforms was decentralization* It's still a a planned economy which just goes to show how much of that you can do and to still then look like a market based one. *nevertheless it’s still horrible to live in China with no freedom of speech, freedom of religion etc., just ask anyone who lives in Hong Kong, this is the reason for the huge protests the past few months, they don’t want to be part of that Chinese government with even a little communist policies* The people in Hong Kong have all those freedoms any ways which is why a certain segment of the population is allowed the freedom to cause so much choas for what i don't consider an especially good reason. All nations have extradition treaties and you could keep the riots for the day the CPP tried to abuse it to pursue their critics instead of criminals. Calling China communist is of course just indicating that you don't know what communism is which certainly isn't what the USSR did and isn't what China did. For communism you need entrenched democracy and basically the 'dictatorship' of parliament; it's just not authoritarian and calling anything authoritarian communism means definitions don't mean anything. *America’s GDP has a steady growth each quarter, lowest unemployment in 70 years, their economy is doing better than ever under TRUMP* So you are a trump supporter? The unemployment was going lower and lower during Obam's presidency as well and Trump just continued the trend. Why do you consider the stock market and full employment to be a measure of a fantastic economy? Does it matter if people get paid wages they can live on? Does it matter that they clearly can't and aren't which is why they voted for Trump in the first place? *Obama dropped more bombs in Afghanistan than Trump ever did* Actually the USA dropped more bombs on Afghanistan in 2019 than in 2006 and more than any year under Obama. Of course Obama was no slacker but Trump delegated to his subordinates and they have decided to bomb a whole lot more. *and 50 meters wide land stretching over an exiting border is nothing, there was always a border there and farms are gladly giving up a little more not to be controlled by drug cartels and human traffickers* I can see that you don't know how construction works which isn't too surprising given that you believe that drug cartels and human traffickers control the US border; a true pyschopant and trump love who despises the poor and immigrants for their poverty and suffering. *governments take land to build roads all the time, building a border is not much different, the notion that Trump takes land for the border ludicrous, I don’t know where you heard this crap* But he is taking and trying to take more land &entire farms for the border as that is what you actualy need to do for both security and probably a hundred legal reasons. The idea that you can take 50 meters of land is nothing but the fantasies of someone who has no idea how any of this works. Governments do take land for supposed reasons of national interest which is why i am always fascinated by the fact the Apartheid government took more land from white citizens than the ANC has ever proposed and people are angry at the ANC. I guess if it's your team doing illegal evil things it's OK but not if the other demcoratically elected team does it it's the end of the world? Conservative/reactionary hypocrisy at it's evil best. *There’s overwhelming evidence that this socialist policy specifically “land expropriation without compensation “ crippled economies, caused famine and genocide on ALL the counties who tried it* There is also ample evidence that not doing any development and consolidation of capacity has left much of the world horrendous poor and open to suffering from whichever corporations or foreign nation can intimidate or bribe the elected officials of developing countries. Tens of millions die due to prevent disease and hunger every year and almost all of that is in nominally free market capitalist societies. Yes there has been massive abuses of power in 'communist' countries that led to atrocities and deaths but it is by no means unique to 'communist/socialist' countries and it doesn't keep happening as it does in the the so called free market capitalist system that constitutes more than a few European countries. *Old communist China, old Soviet Union, Vietnam, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe.....please use your google search and make sure of your facts because you’re talking crap here* I somewhat believed what you do today back in high school, presumably because of my western upbringing& western propaganda, before i read Chomsky at 15 or 16 which made it clear all wasn't as i had been told. Over the last two decades that have only become ever more obvious as the USA kept setting the world on fire and staging ever more obvious coups and bombing campaigns against people that were no threat to the USA and had not attacked it. If you would go investigate these things for yourself i don't believe you can find other than that the world isn't as you have been told but it's hard so i know why so few try and succeed. *If you think communism is not so bad then you need to do some serious research on how tyrannical and murderous communism is* Well i don't think communism is bad but then it's because i think communism is what the late 19th century thinkers suggested which is of course wasn't bad. The problem of course is in the doing and replacing totalitarian systems and their totalitarian mechanisms in a global sea of totalitarian ambitions( imperialism was alive in well which is why the west invaded Russia while it was trying to reform itself) was always going to be fraught with danger and it's no surprise that totalitarian elements in communist movements either won out trough direct violence or overwhelmed popular sentiments by other means. When people crave immediate solutions to their immediate problems of hunger/cold there is a large proportion that will vote for a Trump like figure who isn't an political establishment figure and promises them solutions. Democracy in practice is a very young thing and since most people spend every working day in a totalitarian workplace the really do not know what democracy requires nor do they have well developed skills to participate in it. *read the Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, hundreds of millions died under Mao and Stalin(communism)..they murdered way way way more than Hitler ever did* Well you clearly did not read it nor did you read the black book written by people you would not trust any ways. The 100 million number is a total fabricated fiction and no, Hitler was far worse than Stalin and if it helps far worse ambitions. One day you may come around to not believing in childish fantasies about 100 million deaths due to socialism but i expect that if you can believe in Trump and border walls, to keep out migrants, you are a long way from having the knowledge or critical faculties to deal with actually complex subject matters. It's additionaly funny that so many anti communist turn out to be nazi's themselves or people who obfuscates the astronomcal crimes of Hitler by trying to pretend Stalin secretly did worse!
Very grateful to know and accept that GOD is not asleep. I dont have any money and fully depjendant upon the LORD , I think my life is an example of what GOD does and can do. It is also written that Far across the rivers of Africa will MY scattered people turn from their wicked ways and seek MY Face and I will hear their cry and heal their land. We going through trials as a Christian nation and many of our citizens are also Christians and stands behind us in unity for victory of the evil forces in our land. MAY GOD have mercy on us and order Devine Intervention, it is NOT impossible
@Sam • Really, open your eyes. BEE is killing the goose that lays the GOLDEN eggs. Bee is not helping this "used to be" great nation. We whites never cried for 25 years even after all the murders and then denial by the ANC communists. Go and look at your so called atrocities of the pre 1994 government. Its laughable comparing to the ANC communist and their supporters. I do not know in what world you are living in but even the coloured people of South Africa is done in by the ANC. Well I dare say that the ANC communist is stealing even from their own people. What a joke!
@Sam • "Anger", I'm quite happy where I am. If it were not for the whites you would not have had schools or hospitals. What playing fields have been leveled? Look how Umtata, Leshoto and Limpopo looks. Its a disaster. Even KZN is in ruins. Gauteng has been totally messed up. Our first class universities are not worth going to. Its just a question of time before your world of level playingfield is going to break in pieces. Good luck!
@Sam • Thank you for your willingness to enganged. Its much appreciated. This is my last respons. Get over yourself. All men are equal before God. Does that meam we are all the same? Enjoy your life and your fortune( or not) The wheel turns and the comming around is often not what you expected. The sower reaps what he sowes. People stay uninformed only for a limited time. The majority people do not want socialisme(communisme), Even though the like the handouts. Reality check always comes around. Cherio. 😉
Because the international government don't care about white people if the white countries sanction SA this will be seen as racists and the gutless politicians in the white countries will cave , white people all over the world need to see this as a example for our children or grand children future in Germany , USA , France , Canada and ete dont let it happen
@@GladIRecognizedABeautifulSoul let's me clear of this, if was any other racial group that like for instance if it was white Americans doing some kind of economic hard ship on blacks or Latinos the media and the UN would be outrage calling racism and crying over the suffering of this group but because these types of laws are against whites there is no talking by thr UN or the media that is just striaght up facts so yes we need to see this crystal clear
Because it would hurt the poorest the most including poor white farmers who are already hurting. How can you ask for the help of the USA and Europe while they set the middle east on fire? Don't you see how dangerous it is to get that sort of 'help'?
@@moderate1452 Yes of course their neo liberal western European type economic policies are of course hurting the poor in this country most of all. My point is simply that the people whining in this comment section are by world standards in the top 5% of income earners and they absolutely need to stop behaving like they are suffering from anything but the same policies that hurt American , British and western workers in general. The ANC is not proposing anything radical and what they are would help EVERYONE here which is of course why Afriforum is against it.
How could two million blacks file land claims when the black population in 1910 was only four million and most lived in the reserves anyway and an additional 8 million morgen was given to them in 1913
And let's not forget that the ANC and the other liberation movements set a precedent by going all-out to garner international support for their struggle, including their armed struggle.
You should have just made that lady at the end really think about what she's saying by saying the government comes and expropriates her property for reasons of it being on a strategic location for the public good maybe 5G infrastructure and she gets no compensation for it. The light might just go on upstairs.
White people of SA...we are roughly 3 - 4mil whites in the country and there are no recognision for our rights as the minority..why does Afriforum only have 200000 members is my question?? By my calculation at least 800000.families should be members....this will give Afriforum significant monthly income and it will make them a force to be reckoned with....the way I see it at this stage, is that Afriforum is the most prominent human rights defender for us in the minority, but they need our financial support to fight the good fight. Think their membership is R130 x 800000 = R104mil per month..The government will have their hands full, since they have many other priorities(like Sassa grants) and may not have sufficient legal budget, since corruptio is rife and they are not disciplined with the tax money they do receive. Let's increase our support towards Afrforum and we may be surprised at the results...what have we got to loose.
AfriForum WE FULLY SUPPORT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE INTERNATIONAL CAMPAIGN AGAINST LAND EXPROPRIATION WITHOUT COMPENSATION , WE JOIN IN THE STRUGGLE THAT DEFY THE UNJUST POLICIES AND LAWS DIRECTED ON WHITE-AFRICANS. AfriForum WE STAND READY TO JOIN YOUR NOBLE CAUSE., WE LOBBY WITH YOUR ORGANISATION TO MAKE US PART OF YOUR DELEGATION.
We need a daily update on this campaign to see if it will work or should we start taking off the "nice" gloves and go into phase 2. This was a very "soft" announcement which we have heard many times over the past 25 years. Come on AFRIFORM, start showing your real colors and what you are capable of in doing for the few die-hard Boere left to fight the battles around us. We are all gatvol for all the "rondslomp" while others are running away with the booty. I pray that you will be successful in your efforts and goals to achieve what you have in the pipeline to save the white Christian race. If I sound racist saying this then let it be because I am white and already labeled as a racist even if I am not. I compliment every effort that you make. My subs are up to date.
Terblanche, terblanche, terblanche? Aaah? Do u know, or are u in this crazy band of nazis called the "broederbond", or something like that? Yhaa! Do u recall what happened to one mad dog going by the same monicker there? What ever hole has that cockroach crawled into? Oh! How disgusting & how arrogant that broederbond zombie nation boss MTHAKATHI was. Thought it was invincible & now look what happened to it & it's high IQ smart arse? PAY DAY TIME Reached him, didn't it now?
There is so much undeveloped virgin land that government already owns in SA. So why do they want to take land that's already paid for and privately owned and already developed.? Why take peoples rights away to own property? God forbid this bill passes. Every bank will be in the ground. The whole country will be in the ground. For every farm or land or property seized it must be.... 1) made public of the intention prior to seize by at least 6 months. 2) they must state the reasons why it is to be taken. 3) they must prove why it needs to be taken. 4) they must prove what they going to do with the land or property. 5) they cannot sell it to any third party of foreigner. 6) they are not allowed to set up any other business or mining operation or any other business that the land is currently being used for or zoned for. 7) anything contrary to above that fails any of this then that land cannot be taken and must be given back. 8) any land or property that has a bond and is taken then that bank has no recourse on the bond. At the end of the day this must and cant go down no matter what.
To the journalist at the end, they're making statements you did not hear them say the farms that have been taken for the 25 years has not worked. They said that of the farms taken only 6 percent work now you say taking land is going to work. Where do you get your facts from? I know of lots of actual farms that have failed. You say we are against reform but is it right to take property when there is no proof of it being stolen as the ANC cannot prove it hence why they wanna have the right to do it themself and not let courts deal with it.
The argumentative questions from a member of the audience at the end seem to suggest the situation in SA should continue to be hidden from the rest of the world. It is also interesting to see AfriForum distilling the muddy reality of SA. The reference to those profiting from the status-quo is a powerful argument. Highlighting and isolating those resisting a normalization while profiting from the chaos helps with the emotional argument. The general mood after 2008 in the West is very negative towards "Big Money" riding on the backs of the disadvantaged.
God love all people, irregardless of race. The changes proposed by ANC will end slavery mentality in both the perpetrator and the victim. Come on SAn's, we can do better if we share the benefits of this country. Greed is not the way to go.
Baie dankie vir africforum. Ja baie beter. Ja nou amerika en UK weet en streng vir sa. Ja anc en eff en blf moet uit en hulle moet asb terug na afrika toe daar bly. Ek is nie intersant vir eff en anc en blf nie... Sa mense moet saam werk. Los boere plaas hulle moet nodig vee en vrugte en groente werk. Ons almal bid sterk vir God...God help vir sa boere, mense...
The question is why would any investor not currently invested in SA put pressure on the ANC? On the other hand a stable, productive society is infinitely more important to the foreign companies already in SA. The automakers are one example. The only way to have the outside world pay attention to a relatively small group of people in a distant country, is if they perceive a direct threat to their own interests.
Couls someone -maybe FW de Klerk explain -my understanding was that the ANC would need a 66% majority vote in an election to change the Constitution -remember the sterling work done by Helen Zille in the past to prevent this .....and now?
Kallie I must take off my hat to you in the way you dealt with that "journalist" at the end. I actually watched that twice. Any chance you guys could put more visual statistics on your videos? May just get the percentages across more clearly. Just a suggestion. Really appreciate what you guys are doing. Keep going! Remember the dogs bark but the caravan moves on. P.S. Have you thought of doing a video where you congratulate the ANC on successfully completing their land restitution program? The monies that were paid out as compensation over the last 26 years is surely proof that the process was successful and we can now move on to more pressing matters? Just another thought - the people that are trying to say that these farm murders are irrelevant, do they eat at all?
Rip South Africa. Look like the EWC is supporting the ANC to say that fighting for property and freedom of land for them, land sould be for all who lives in South Africa 🇿🇦. This is what I say! But They The EWC said they will support you to support this to give the land to the right oners of this land. So what's the smoking gun? They're know the American are on there aspect of this battle.
Great work AfriForum! I do however wonder when there will be an investigation into how much China have to do with the "ANC political strategy" and the extend of how much the TAX payer getting sold off, by greedy individuals and CHINA!?
Regarding the first example of the farmer with 30 hectares and the squatters next door: All these arguments assume that the farmer just freely inherited this land with infrastructure on it, which isnt true. In the vast majority of cases farms are bought with mortgages based on the future economic productivity of the farm. If the squatters want a productive farm, then go and buy it. Thats if your socialist government has provided an adequate education to comprehend the argument. I quess 'Freedom now, education later' has finally come home to roost.
Good lord! Why Even bother taking questions from the press? What a silly bunch of disingenuous rubbish - why entertain these fools? It just lowers the value and importance of the presentation.
From someone who knows South African politics very well these people shouldn't have made this press conference. It makes them look very stupid. Their relevance would have better been sustained if they remained an underground movement. The points they are raising can fool anyone who doesn't know South African politics
@@machiyanombo6821 it must be that low IQ of yours that cant get its small head around the real facts, it doesnt want to admit that the ANC are destroying , and busy looting this country dry, you, me and every other person in this country irrespective of race is and will be profoundly affected , as to what is comming, PLEASE MAKE ONE VALID POINT ????,,,,,,
"Let,s send troops to America to defend the rights of South Africa, the ANC said?"' What a joke, this would make a good movie, South African Troops dying of AIDS, before the plane lands in the USA!!
@SS9 • apartheid does not exist you moron. My situation has not been difficult. What are you talking about? Why are you commenting here if you not south african?
Expropriation of property implies ALL property, not only land. They do not need other laws to take you guns, vehicles, pension etc. WAKE UP SOUTH AFRICA. Legalized theft is still theft. Afriforum....voorwaarts.
Absolutely brilliant Afriforum, any ANC voters or cadres who wish to comment here???I am increasing my monthly debit order to AFRIFORUM.
If you look at the worlds opinion, the anti-White movement is starting to collapse. We are tiered of getting blamed for everything.
South Africa is a sovereign. To hell with your international drive. We as Africans must and will continue with EFF and ANC policies.
@@brianmuvuti2505 hahaha.
@@brianmuvuti2505 those policies are atrocious.
@@brianmuvuti2505 South Africa is just going to become the Somalia of the South and the world will come to think of it as this place of famine and war that goes on for generations. Zimbabwes fate awaits you but on a larger scale and far more serious due to the low rainfall that 66% of the country receives. Cape town is going to be a complete mess, just as Bulawayo became due to lack of concern by the ANC who see it as a foreign place.
Go for a trip to Harare and see the starving masses without water, education, health facilities, electricity if you want to see your future. South Africa is dieing and it will not be pleasant for any of its citizens.
Ernst Roets is a very sharp guy. I love his thinking
Sam • wow look at you Sam! U were first to comment on this post. Aren't you a big man! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Roets his small racist guy
Kallie, lets just be honest and frank. If government has the right to take their citizens assets, no one's property is safe. Indian people that own land, or Colored people that own land, Black people not of the same tribe as the ANC, as well as refugees that own land, are not safe. This affects every single person in SA directly and indirectly. Just as per the current political strategy, the ANC makes this fight racial and emotional, which then divides the voters down a color line and when they keep on suggesting that they are going to take farms, then no one cares and the bill passes without any effort. However, with all the land that they have taken already, or land that they have in their control, it has not been shared or redistributed and in 99% of the cases it is lying baron without producing any food or jobs for that matter. We are in trouble and the world needs to take a hard look at what they have allowed to happen here. Our government is failing us, all of us!!
this is not our goverment. it was never a democracy. that has always bern a smokescreen
Every government in the world can expropriate land in the national interest and if you do not think we have historic wrongs to right in this country you were clearly subject to apartheid schooling... Do you care what the other 99% of the world's people were taught in their history books are you ok believing the lies you were told?
@@ep6263 This is a democracy but i can see how you find the freedom of others to express themselves deeply distressing...
@@GladIRecognizedABeautifulSoul Well said. Unfortunately those with almost all the economic power in this country will rather run the risk of serious social upheaval than admit past wrongs and allow the government to try to make it right.
@@GladIRecognizedABeautifulSoul You are joking right? People that are 44 year of age now, and younger, where not allowed to vote prior 1994... How did they create this mess? Did they ask their forefathers to come to Africa? Where is the English today on the matter, the Dutch, etc.? Why are they not coming to aid their people?
Please share this , let the world know what realy going on in South Africa !!!!
What is really going in South-Africa that is more interesting than the fact that after a quarter century the ANC have somehow been convinced to keep the economic system in place that both made most whites , and a very few Africans, among the wealthiest middle classes in the world under apartheid and is still doing so now?
Lol, this is propaganda.
@@davidfoster989 It is Afriforum trying to keep minority wealth&power intact; noble bunch for sure.
David Foster how is this propeganda if he is constantly explaining each and every topic he brings up supporting them with facts of how it is now and how it could be better???? Seriously....
@@truthseeker9011 Here's a quick definition of propaganda:
"Information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view."
This is exaclty what Afriforum is doing.
If the ANC did their job - creating conditions conducive to prosperity - then anyone who wishes to acquire land can simply buy land.
But those with prosperity doesn't want to share it and with land prices what they are who do you think can afford to buy land? Sure the ANC is far too neo liberal for my taste and if they were not so conservative in their economic approach things would be much better for their voters and even for everyone else as well. In either case it's not a easy world to live in when the Western capitalist terrorize all states that tries to help their people develop and i hope i can eventually learn how much the ANC's inaction was due to their own planning and how much was enforced trough white monopoly capital and their foreign backers. Remember if they should try serious reform the USA might get more involved and turn this country into another Venezuela or worse.
Since when are they the government to govern? it was all about stealing from taxpayers, that is their real manifesto
@@pietersteenkamp5241 I know you, the black supremecist masquerading as a white man. Either your lies are ridiculous or you are niave enought to think that after 25 years of (redistribution of wealth "aka theft") that white people still have all the wealth. Even if they did, they owe blacks nothing. The economic migrants which flooded to the white country and seeked a union of states owe white people trillions in benefits they recieved.
@@optimistic5778 😂😂 you are funny white boy
Yes people would buy land from the 10% if the apartheid is introduced and this time controlled by blacks and whites have no equal economic share. That's how white managed to hold on that land in first place
This is GREAT! Thank you Afriforum for your efforts in these cases. The world needs to know the truth of what is happening in the country. I know you will make a difference to the benefits of all South Africans. Thank you!
Thank you Afriforum.. you're giving us hope. The ANC only cares about money and votes, not the country or its people.
Yes it's unfortunate that the ANC refuses to do what the vast majority of the people of South-Africa wants them to do. If they had acted democratically we would have rectified many wrongs but unfortunately they always had plenty of conservatives who were as interested in maintaining their own power as any advocate of apartheid.
@@pietersteenkamp5241 sjoe maar jy mis die plot darem erg...
@@goodvibesalternative5389 o fositse. Monna ona o nepile ka se ase bolelang
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior no he is not. He is running after the propaganda from the New World Order whuch was pushed down ons SA for decades.
Lou Jordan false hope that is 😆
I don't share same ideologies with Afri-Forum, but I realised long ago that the people of South Africa will suffer because of Identity Politics not Rationale. So if Afri-Forum's intentions are good and without any BOERE-JODE hidden agendas then you deserve support from all South Africans. Everything is falling apart so YES interventions are necessary.
well said! they seemed a little right wing at first, but also have my support moving forward now
I have written many times to the White House in the US with my concerns about the land issues, the injustices faced by minorities and so forth. I have written to media here and forwarded videos etc. While some may wonder why keep trying, well if you do not try nothing changes and when people are educated about the truth, then change comes. In forty years a govt that calls itself communist and the so called party of the people has managed to destroy/cripple many areas of the country such as economic growth, power, education, the sense of safety, job development/ability, and an expression comes to mind, nothing is as frightening as ignorance in motion because as long as a majority of the people remain oblivious to reality, hands out for "free money" and "free land" and "free everything" they will turn a blind eye to reality. Stop the free and I cannot imagine the consequences of people who are hungry and desperate. Well done Agriforum.
China is communist(like) yet is one of the successful countries to date. are white people still afraid of communism today.I don't mind it but only when it's done right, remember that this is Africa. and many may be open to communism if they feel that democracy and capitalism are not working for them. Most African states admire China and Cuba( Don't know why). Thats the reality, i'm sure some are itching to turn communist and turn to Chin for help on how it did it.
@@kgothatsomoiloa1784 Erm, socially China is Communist, Economically it adopted Capatalism probably because they saw that Communism has NEVER worked economically for any country that has ever implemented it.
Educate yourself before commenting
Thank you. Because the onslaught of criminals on society is pure madness. Criminals aren't afraid of the law and have no regard for life. Last night they tried to blast the ATM here. They bombed it 3 times and shot at us with AK47s. Where are they getting the weapons from? When they realised that help was coming, they ran off, without any cash and thank God, without hurting anyone. But others aren't so lucky. Our country is littered with broken hearts and broken families because criminals have more rights and aren't afraid of punishment, because even when they get caught, they know they'll have an easy time in prison. And in some instances, carry on their criminal ways in prison! It's almost a lose-lose situation. We don't live normal lives.
This ANC Government has already shown its disdain for the rule of law and the constitution. All of the ANC members of Parliament failed to defend, uphold and protect the Constitution of the land. They chose instead to protect a President who was corrupt and had stolen public money. The court had ruled that members of Parliament also violated the Constitution and their oath of office by failing to hold Zuma accountable about the spending on his private compound in Nkandla. They simply ignored the court, Zuma was side-lined while the looting of the state continued just like their comrades in Zimbabwe Mugabe style, and exactly how to do it. The ANC elite using Ramaphosa, allowed their members to continue unabated. They saw that the rest of the world would stand by and watch and do nothing while the country is destroyed. I really hope you can convince other Governments. They were unconvinced in the past.
Thank you Afriforum Best Wishes and safe travels.
All the best guys!
AfriForum is the lamp in the darkness.
More like a lampshade....
@@pietersteenkamp5241 and you keep on showing others how foolish your arguments are.
Afriforum wont last very long. the apartheid era never left.
Afriforum is a non-racial and patriotic civil rights movement. That is why the ANC cannot stomach them. Afriforum argues using facts, while the ANC /EFF rely on basic emotions. Afriforum infuriates the ANC/EFF and their PC lapdogs.
@Sam • Sam, evidence to the contrary. Also, don't speak for everybody you not relevant.
Dankie julle!!. Dis hoogtyd dat die Afrikaner opstaan vir sy regte! #buffaloboer Ek voel n draai kom. Al hoe meer Afrikaners kom uit en se dit soos dit is. Ons is n trotse nasie, Maar daardie trots was standing van ons af weg geneem sonder dat ons regtig 100% bewus was. Ons is egter nou! Staan op vir die Afrikaners, ons Taal en waarin ons glo!!#afriforum
Proudly a member of an organization that is fighting ANC communism and racism. Well done guys.
The ANC has never been communist and isn't communist today nor are the racist as then odds are we would not still have all the money. Do you know that white people are still significantly over represented in government jobs/consulting and that the salaries are massively higher than the government norm? Is that a sign of racism to you?
Pieter Steenkamp Where on Gods green earth do you get that information and please back it up with facts. The ANC were trained by communists and are in a tripartite agreement with the unions which are communist as it’s in there name. As for jobs in government still being represented by whites is a blatant lie. You clearly don’t live in SA or are the dumbest person in the country which is saying something. But I’ll await your facts to confirm what you’ve said. I won’t be holding my breath.
Trump is out in 11 months. So who will you go to after that.
@@Speed-shooter Pieter Steenkamp got his facts from his commie lecture at university 😂😂
Jacques de Wet 🎯
GREAT TO HEAR KALLIE SAY THAT WERE IN IT FOR A LONG HAUL . 👍👍👍👍👍👍
1: how many farms have already been taken over by the S25 processes, willing buyer, willing seller?
2: of these farms with a black farmer being placed onto these farms, how many have been:
a: sold,
b: abandoned,
c: being farmed subsistently,
d: being farmed profitably scientifically and feeding the nation?
3: how much money has already been spent on projects from viable farms handed over to communities?
a: of these farms, how many have collapsed entirely?
b: back to subsistence farming?
c: being farmed profitably to the equivalent or better level to what was taken over?
None
White South Africans can no longer afford to suffer from masochism and stockholm syndrome. We want to enact our international, CODESA and human rights to self-determination as what is happening in this country is exploitation, abuse and meets the international legal definition of genocide.
It would function to hedge governance and hold RSA to higher standards less risking losing citizens to the Cape, rather than them fleeing overseas they remain in the region. You wouldn't need to leave RSA to overseas but would have a less extreme alternative. We would retain human and capital resources.
What we are proposing would give you the freedom to continue to live under the current trajectory, treatment inter alia. But to resist a referendum would be tantamount to infringing on our rights and quite frankly the best option for this region. Hedging Governence will lower the risk of the RSA public servents being able to afford to enact communist policies less risking a loss of resources. It's a win win situation.
Let everyone consider the freedom to sculpt a harmonious and prosperous future for themselves and their children by hedging governence with self determination of the Cape rather than endure the untenable social, economic and psychological abuse and exploitation at the hands of people with naturally occuring differing interests.
You may feel free to remain a citizen of RSA but don't hold us hostage. Say no to being gagged, say no to masochism, say no to not having a say, say no to stockholm syndrome.
I guarantee you everyone in RSA will be free of the current dispensation's policies by standing together and demanding self determination of the Cape.
Let us plant the seeds of harmony and prosperity.
Let us not be coralled and made to be complacent. If you do not prepare you prepare to fail. We need to realise we have been demoralised into subverting our own best self-interests. Let us be custos veritatis, guardians of the truth. And the truth is we need to take the future into our own hands. Changes need to be made and self-determination will apply the pressure required to correct the policies of the current dispensation.
This is the best way but because it is the best way it will be opposed by those who dont want a peaceful solution.
@klaas wertmann Your doubt is the problem. It would be in good faith if the black majority would act in kind and not infringe in our rights. We did give them our country after all, built over 500 years. If need be, Let us rather die free than live on our knees.
Thank you AfriForum!!!
Very well done and said!!
Accurate, factual and incisively presented. I can see where they’re coming from.
Authentic patriotism is rare in our greed ridden society, where the thirst for retribution has clouded sound judgement. Afriforum seems to be exposing & breaking down deep prejudices.
YOU GUYS JUST DID THE ROOF OF A HOUSE IN 1 HOUR .HITTING THE NAILS ON THE HEAD EVERYTIME!
Good on you folks, love it...
Well done on putting the amateur journalist in her place. 👌🏼👍🏼
No farmers no food, it is as simple as that.
Thank you Afriforum. We are all depending on your efforts.
Please help the world understand that we are only about 8.3% of South Africans paying all the income tax and that we (tax payers) would prosper equally well in any developed economy because like them we work very hard to earn what we have and that it is a lie that we somehow stole it from the poor!! Tell the world not to enable corruption in South Africa and help it kill the goose causing everyone to lose everything - hello Zimbabwe.
@SS9 • the whites built South Africa bra. You leave and go back to Congo
@SS9 • The Whites built the Dams to Reserve Water in a water deprived country, they built Eskom without using Tax Payers money, it was the cheapest and best electricity supply in the World. Take a trip to Liberia and taste Africa without the impact of White ingenuity. Then you might be able to engage the Afrikaaner in a rational conversation.
The people in South Africa embraced the opportunity to turn their environment into a manifestation of their mindset. The ongoing process of decivilization and decay strives to bring equilibrium between the quality of the infrastructure and service delivery on the one hand, and the intellectual capacity of the voter on the other hand. This is what democracy is supposed to do. Democracy is a sophisticated system for sophisticated voters, but a death sentence in the wrong hands. Radioisotopes are a sophisticated solution in the hands of a trained oncologist, but very much harmful in ignorant hands.
Eventually, there is also correlation between the intellectual capabilities of the average voter and their life expectancy and quality of life. Democracy enforces this phenomenon.
Democracy is a system that gives people the power to kill themselves through hunger and disease.
Food for thought...
True and clearly articulated, salute.
True and clearly articulated, salute
thanks for what you are doing for all south africans well done afriforum you the best
Thank you AfriForum, the blatant double standards needs to come to an end, Land expropriation without compensation is the very policy that crippled all the socialist countries, it will effect each and every one of us especially the poor.
Please go and tell the world what the ANC , the communist and eff political elite are doing here, we are 100% behind you and thank you for the action you guys are taking...I’m also going to increase my debit order to AfriForum!
Meanwhile in China purchasing power is skyrocketing and that's even without democracy to help properly allocate internal resources and labor. Meanwhile Trump is taking land for the wall and dropping 7000 bombs in Afghanistan destroying land and farms.... The idea that we have anything to fear from so called communism is rich considering who is terrorizing and bombing the world as we speak.
Pieter Steenkamp China has gone a long way to becoming a market-capitalist-economy , it’s key theme under Deng’s reforms was decentralization , nevertheless it’s still horrible to live in China with no freedom of speech, freedom of religion etc., just ask anyone who lives in Hong Kong, this is the reason for the huge protests the past few months, they don’t want to be part of that Chinese government with even a little communist policies.
America’s GDP has a steady growth each quarter, lowest unemployment in 70 years, their economy is doing better than ever under TRUMP.
Obama dropped more bombs in Afghanistan than Trump ever did and 50 meters wide land stretching over an exiting border is nothing, there was always a border there and farms are gladly giving up a little more not to be controlled by drug cartels and human traffickers, governments take land to build roads all the time, building a border is not much different, the notion that Trump takes land for the border ludicrous, I don’t know where you heard this crap.
There’s overwhelming evidence that this socialist policy specifically “land expropriation without compensation “ crippled economies, caused famine and genocide on ALL the counties who tried it ...Old communist China, old Soviet Union, Vietnam, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe.....please use your google search and make sure of your facts because you’re talking crap here!..If you think communism is not so bad then you need to do some serious research on how tyrannical and murderous communism is ...read the Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, hundreds of millions died under Mao and Stalin(communism)..they murdered way way way more than Hitler ever did!
*Pieter Steenkamp China has gone a long way to becoming a market-capitalist-economy , it’s key theme under Deng’s reforms was decentralization*
It's still a a planned economy which just goes to show how much of that you can do and to still then look like a market based one.
*nevertheless it’s still horrible to live in China with no freedom of speech, freedom of religion etc., just ask anyone who lives in Hong Kong, this is the reason for the huge protests the past few months, they don’t want to be part of that Chinese government with even a little communist policies*
The people in Hong Kong have all those freedoms any ways which is why a certain segment of the population is allowed the freedom to cause so much choas for what i don't consider an especially good reason. All nations have extradition treaties and you could keep the riots for the day the CPP tried to abuse it to pursue their critics instead of criminals. Calling China communist is of course just indicating that you don't know what communism is which certainly isn't what the USSR did and isn't what China did. For communism you need entrenched democracy and basically the 'dictatorship' of parliament; it's just not authoritarian and calling anything authoritarian communism means definitions don't mean anything.
*America’s GDP has a steady growth each quarter, lowest unemployment in 70 years, their economy is doing better than ever under TRUMP*
So you are a trump supporter? The unemployment was going lower and lower during Obam's presidency as well and Trump just continued the trend. Why do you consider the stock market and full employment to be a measure of a fantastic economy? Does it matter if people get paid wages they can live on? Does it matter that they clearly can't and aren't which is why they voted for Trump in the first place?
*Obama dropped more bombs in Afghanistan than Trump ever did*
Actually the USA dropped more bombs on Afghanistan in 2019 than in 2006 and more than any year under Obama. Of course Obama was no slacker but Trump delegated to his subordinates and they have decided to bomb a whole lot more.
*and 50 meters wide land stretching over an exiting border is nothing, there was always a border there and farms are gladly giving up a little more not to be controlled by drug cartels and human traffickers*
I can see that you don't know how construction works which isn't too surprising given that you believe that drug cartels and human traffickers control the US border; a true pyschopant and trump love who despises the poor and immigrants for their poverty and suffering.
*governments take land to build roads all the time, building a border is not much different, the notion that Trump takes land for the border ludicrous, I don’t know where you heard this crap*
But he is taking and trying to take more land &entire farms for the border as that is what you actualy need to do for both security and probably a hundred legal reasons. The idea that you can take 50 meters of land is nothing but the fantasies of someone who has no idea how any of this works. Governments do take land for supposed reasons of national interest which is why i am always fascinated by the fact the Apartheid government took more land from white citizens than the ANC has ever proposed and people are angry at the ANC. I guess if it's your team doing illegal evil things it's OK but not if the other demcoratically elected team does it it's the end of the world? Conservative/reactionary hypocrisy at it's evil best.
*There’s overwhelming evidence that this socialist policy specifically “land expropriation without compensation “ crippled economies, caused famine and genocide on ALL the counties who tried it*
There is also ample evidence that not doing any development and consolidation of capacity has left much of the world horrendous poor and open to suffering from whichever corporations or foreign nation can intimidate or bribe the elected officials of developing countries. Tens of millions die due to prevent disease and hunger every year and almost all of that is in nominally free market capitalist societies. Yes there has been massive abuses of power in 'communist' countries that led to atrocities and deaths but it is by no means unique to 'communist/socialist' countries and it doesn't keep happening as it does in the the so called free market capitalist system that constitutes more than a few European countries.
*Old communist China, old Soviet Union, Vietnam, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe.....please use your google search and make sure of your facts because you’re talking crap here*
I somewhat believed what you do today back in high school, presumably because of my western upbringing& western propaganda, before i read Chomsky at 15 or 16 which made it clear all wasn't as i had been told. Over the last two decades that have only become ever more obvious as the USA kept setting the world on fire and staging ever more obvious coups and bombing campaigns against people that were no threat to the USA and had not attacked it. If you would go investigate these things for yourself i don't believe you can find other than that the world isn't as you have been told but it's hard so i know why so few try and succeed.
*If you think communism is not so bad then you need to do some serious research on how tyrannical and murderous communism is*
Well i don't think communism is bad but then it's because i think communism is what the late 19th century thinkers suggested which is of course wasn't bad. The problem of course is in the doing and replacing totalitarian systems and their totalitarian mechanisms in a global sea of totalitarian ambitions( imperialism was alive in well which is why the west invaded Russia while it was trying to reform itself) was always going to be fraught with danger and it's no surprise that totalitarian elements in communist movements either won out trough direct violence or overwhelmed popular sentiments by other means.
When people crave immediate solutions to their immediate problems of hunger/cold there is a large proportion that will vote for a Trump like figure who isn't an political establishment figure and promises them solutions. Democracy in practice is a very young thing and since most people spend every working day in a totalitarian workplace the really do not know what democracy requires nor do they have well developed skills to participate in it.
*read the Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, hundreds of millions died under Mao and Stalin(communism)..they murdered way way way more than Hitler ever did*
Well you clearly did not read it nor did you read the black book written by people you would not trust any ways. The 100 million number is a total fabricated fiction and no, Hitler was far worse than Stalin and if it helps far worse ambitions. One day you may come around to not believing in childish fantasies about 100 million deaths due to socialism but i expect that if you can believe in Trump and border walls, to keep out migrants, you are a long way from having the knowledge or critical faculties to deal with actually complex subject matters. It's additionaly funny that so many anti communist turn out to be nazi's themselves or people who obfuscates the astronomcal crimes of Hitler by trying to pretend Stalin secretly did worse!
Pieter Steenkamp enjoy your Sunday you Communist Prick!
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You have my support
Suppose we freedom fighters now? Against ANC bondage
Saluut Afriform!
Afriforum has our mandate.
Very grateful to know and accept that GOD is not asleep. I dont have any money and fully depjendant upon the LORD , I think my life is an example of what GOD does and can do. It is also written that Far across the rivers of Africa will MY scattered people turn from their wicked ways and seek MY Face and I will hear their cry and heal their land. We going through trials as a Christian nation and many of our citizens are also Christians and stands behind us in unity for victory of the evil forces in our land. MAY GOD have mercy on us and order Devine Intervention, it is NOT impossible
Love you guys!!! Dankie vir alles.
Dankie Afriforum
Keep it up! We appreciate all your hard work and wish you the best!
Remember to mention the atrocities of BEE and so on
@Sam • Really, open your eyes.
BEE is killing the goose that lays the GOLDEN eggs.
Bee is not helping this "used to be" great nation.
We whites never cried for 25 years even after all the murders and then denial by the ANC communists.
Go and look at your so called atrocities of the pre 1994 government.
Its laughable comparing to the ANC communist and their supporters.
I do not know in what world you are living in but even the coloured people of South Africa is done in by the ANC.
Well I dare say that the ANC communist is stealing even from their own people. What a joke!
@Sam • "Anger", I'm quite happy where I am. If it were not for the whites you would not have had schools or hospitals.
What playing fields have been leveled?
Look how Umtata, Leshoto and Limpopo looks. Its a disaster. Even KZN is in ruins. Gauteng has been totally messed up. Our first class universities are not worth going to.
Its just a question of time before your world of level playingfield is going to break in pieces.
Good luck!
@Sam • Thank you for your willingness to enganged. Its much appreciated. This is my last respons.
Get over yourself. All men are equal before God. Does that meam we are all the same?
Enjoy your life and your fortune( or not)
The wheel turns and the comming around is often not what you expected.
The sower reaps what he sowes.
People stay uninformed only for a limited time. The majority people do not want socialisme(communisme),
Even though the like the handouts.
Reality check always comes around.
Cherio. 😉
Sam • how's the squatter camp been treating you lately mate?
Why do we not ask for sanctions?
Because the international government don't care about white people if the white countries sanction SA this will be seen as racists and the gutless politicians in the white countries will cave , white people all over the world need to see this as a example for our children or grand children future in Germany , USA , France , Canada and ete dont let it happen
@@GladIRecognizedABeautifulSoul let's me clear of this, if was any other racial group that like for instance if it was white Americans doing some kind of economic hard ship on blacks or Latinos the media and the UN would be outrage calling racism and crying over the suffering of this group but because these types of laws are against whites there is no talking by thr UN or the media that is just striaght up facts so yes we need to see this crystal clear
Because it would hurt the poorest the most including poor white farmers who are already hurting. How can you ask for the help of the USA and Europe while they set the middle east on fire? Don't you see how dangerous it is to get that sort of 'help'?
@@pietersteenkamp5241 The ANC is hurting the poorest of the poor
@@moderate1452 Yes of course their neo liberal western European type economic policies are of course hurting the poor in this country most of all. My point is simply that the people whining in this comment section are by world standards in the top 5% of income earners and they absolutely need to stop behaving like they are suffering from anything but the same policies that hurt American , British and western workers in general. The ANC is not proposing anything radical and what they are would help EVERYONE here which is of course why Afriforum is against it.
That activist doesn't put the declared agenda of the ANC together with her statements. She's merely using fallacies.
How could two million blacks file land claims when the black population in 1910 was only four million and most lived in the reserves anyway and an additional 8 million morgen was given to them in 1913
Why not? they are born liars and thieves.
Yo white people are arrogant. You need to be given hiding.
@@brianmuvuti2505 and what do you call yourself, racist! You're welcome to come and give me a hiding if you think you can.
I'd vote for you guys if you became an actual political party and I suspect you'd take a huge chunk away from the D.A...
And let's not forget that the ANC and the other liberation movements set a precedent by going all-out to garner international support for their struggle, including their armed struggle.
Thank you Afriforum!
PROPERTY means everything you own and worked so hard for = Regardless of RACE
You should have just made that lady at the end really think about what she's saying by saying the government comes and expropriates her property for reasons of it being on a strategic location for the public good maybe 5G infrastructure and she gets no compensation for it. The light might just go on upstairs.
she will gladly offer her property up for the revolution. I'm sure :)
Why wouldn't you speak to Loving live, this man is for us, we of members assist you to make a appointment with Scott and explain the problem in SA.
Please speak to Oom Scott.
That "journalist" was completely outclassed.
White people of SA...we are roughly 3 - 4mil whites in the country and there are no recognision for our rights as the minority..why does Afriforum only have 200000 members is my question?? By my calculation at least 800000.families should be members....this will give Afriforum significant monthly income and it will make them a force to be reckoned with....the way I see it at this stage, is that Afriforum is the most prominent human rights defender for us in the minority, but they need our financial support to fight the good fight. Think their membership is R130 x 800000 = R104mil per month..The government will have their hands full, since they have many other priorities(like Sassa grants) and may not have sufficient legal budget, since corruptio is rife and they are not disciplined with the tax money they do receive. Let's increase our support towards Afrforum and we may be surprised at the results...what have we got to loose.
Support you 100%
AfriForum WE FULLY SUPPORT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE INTERNATIONAL CAMPAIGN AGAINST LAND EXPROPRIATION WITHOUT COMPENSATION , WE JOIN IN THE STRUGGLE THAT DEFY THE UNJUST POLICIES AND LAWS DIRECTED ON WHITE-AFRICANS. AfriForum WE STAND READY TO JOIN YOUR NOBLE CAUSE., WE LOBBY WITH YOUR ORGANISATION TO MAKE US PART OF YOUR DELEGATION.
Jesus take the wheel!!
We need a daily update on this campaign to see if it will work or should we start taking off the "nice" gloves and go into phase 2. This was a very "soft" announcement which we have heard many times over the past 25 years. Come on AFRIFORM, start showing your real colors and what you are capable of in doing for the few die-hard Boere left to fight the battles around us. We are all gatvol for all the "rondslomp" while others are running away with the booty. I pray that you will be successful in your efforts and goals to achieve what you have in the pipeline to save the white Christian race. If I sound racist saying this then let it be because I am white and already labeled as a racist even if I am not. I compliment every effort that you make. My subs are up to date.
Terblanche, terblanche, terblanche?
Aaah? Do u know, or are u in this crazy band of nazis called the "broederbond", or something like that?
Yhaa! Do u recall what happened to one mad dog going by the same monicker there?
What ever hole has that cockroach crawled into? Oh! How disgusting & how arrogant that broederbond zombie nation boss MTHAKATHI was. Thought it was invincible & now look what happened to it & it's high IQ smart arse?
PAY DAY TIME Reached him, didn't it now?
There is so much undeveloped virgin land that government already owns in SA. So why do they want to take land that's already paid for and privately owned and already developed.?
Why take peoples rights away to own property?
God forbid this bill passes. Every bank will be in the ground. The whole country will be in the ground.
For every farm or land or property seized it must be....
1) made public of the intention prior to seize by at least 6 months.
2) they must state the reasons why it is to be taken.
3) they must prove why it needs to be taken.
4) they must prove what they going to do with the land or property.
5) they cannot sell it to any third party of foreigner.
6) they are not allowed to set up any other business or mining operation or any other business that the land is currently being used for or zoned for.
7) anything contrary to above that fails any of this then that land cannot be taken and must be given back.
8) any land or property that has a bond and is taken then that bank has no recourse on the bond.
At the end of the day this must and cant go down no matter what.
@Ram Pokker there is probably very little mineral resources on that land.
The ANC needs to repay the communist Chinese somehow. We all know they don't have the cash so they will give mineral rich land Instead.
"Are you a journalist or an activist?" XD
To the journalist at the end, they're making statements you did not hear them say the farms that have been taken for the 25 years has not worked. They said that of the farms taken only 6 percent work now you say taking land is going to work. Where do you get your facts from? I know of lots of actual farms that have failed. You say we are against reform but is it right to take property when there is no proof of it being stolen as the ANC cannot prove it hence why they wanna have the right to do it themself and not let courts deal with it.
I did not think I would have watch the entire video, but it was interesting and I enjoyed the speakers :)
The stupidity, greed and hatred of these inferior beings is insatiable.
We´re so tired of the ANC! People on top of the ANC are pure evil...
The argumentative questions from a member of the audience at the end seem to suggest the situation in SA should continue to be hidden from the rest of the world. It is also interesting to see AfriForum distilling the muddy reality of SA. The reference to those profiting from the status-quo is a powerful argument. Highlighting and isolating those resisting a normalization while profiting from the chaos helps with the emotional argument. The general mood after 2008 in the West is very negative towards "Big Money" riding on the backs of the disadvantaged.
God love all people, irregardless of race. The changes proposed by ANC will end slavery mentality in both the perpetrator and the victim. Come on SAn's, we can do better if we share the benefits of this country. Greed is not the way to go.
@Ram Pokker is not important.
@Ram Pokker lets reason looking at the bigger picture (nationally), not at a personal level. This is not targeting individuals.
Wel gedaan
Keep up good work! Lets talk about me running youtube and facebook ads for you. Targeting US politicians and republicans and more to get the word out
South Efrikan running ads is 100% legal. It would just get the word out faster. But there is a fine line when running political ads.
South Efrikan for example this video right here can be run to everybody watch the Fox News UA-cam channel.
Brilliant idea Michos
South Efrikan it shows more people that we want to reach what’s going on. So no it isn’t.
@@michaelnel-realforce7653 Good idea ! Fox News is perfect.
Baie dankie vir africforum. Ja baie beter. Ja nou amerika en UK weet en streng vir sa. Ja anc en eff en blf moet uit en hulle moet asb terug na afrika toe daar bly. Ek is nie intersant vir eff en anc en blf nie... Sa mense moet saam werk. Los boere plaas hulle moet nodig vee en vrugte en groente werk. Ons almal bid sterk vir God...God help vir sa boere, mense...
Commerical farming by the few educated and capitalised people who can achieve it and make a profit, OR subsistence farming and poverty for everyone?
come to Australia
It is not expropriation, it is confiscation of property which is a universal crime
The question is why would any investor not currently invested in SA put pressure on the ANC? On the other hand a stable, productive society is infinitely more important to the foreign companies already in SA. The automakers are one example. The only way to have the outside world pay attention to a relatively small group of people in a distant country, is if they perceive a direct threat to their own interests.
Couls someone -maybe FW de Klerk explain -my understanding was that the ANC would need a 66% majority vote in an election to change the Constitution -remember the sterling work done by Helen Zille in the past to prevent this .....and now?
The world is in so much trouble of its own. You are on your own pretty much, act accordingly, stop waiting for help. It isn't coming any time soon.
If you believe you will get help from the so called "international community", you are very naiive and mistaken. These people are the dark side.
How does it feel now????
That woman journalist is irritating. Has her own agenda.
Not a journalist.
Kallie I must take off my hat to you in the way you dealt with that "journalist" at the end. I actually watched that twice. Any chance you guys could put more visual statistics on your videos? May just get the percentages across more clearly. Just a suggestion. Really appreciate what you guys are doing. Keep going! Remember the dogs bark but the caravan moves on. P.S. Have you thought of doing a video where you congratulate the ANC on successfully completing their land restitution program? The monies that were paid out as compensation over the last 26 years is surely proof that the process was successful and we can now move on to more pressing matters? Just another thought - the people that are trying to say that these farm murders are irrelevant, do they eat at all?
Rip South Africa. Look like the EWC is supporting the ANC to say that fighting for property and freedom of land for them, land sould be for all who lives in South Africa 🇿🇦. This is what I say! But
They The EWC said they will support you to support this to give the land to the right oners of this land. So what's the smoking gun?
They're know the American are on there aspect of this battle.
We that voted no knew this would happen why did you vote yes what were you thinking????
Great work AfriForum! I do however wonder when there will be an investigation into how much China have to do with the "ANC political strategy" and the extend of how much the TAX payer getting sold off, by greedy individuals and CHINA!?
Argh no sigh, they back 🥱🥱
Know this is a process and can take time to fight but we dont have much time before things go haywire now do we
Well done!
Julle kan verniet by my kom bly in Rominië.
Dankie maar nee dankie kan nie roemenies?, praat nie.
Nou leer of kry ‘n tolk.
Stuur jou adres
Stuur jou adres asseblief. Ek voel nie vuilig in hierdie land nie
Dis hoekom ek daar weg is.
Are you going to adres the 'decolonialosation' of towns, like Harrismith, where the hijacked council caused the total implotion of basic services.
👍👍👍👍👍
The Marxists don’t care 🤷♂️
Regarding the first example of the farmer with 30 hectares and the squatters next door: All these arguments assume that the farmer just freely inherited this land with infrastructure on it, which isnt true. In the vast majority of cases farms are bought with mortgages based on the future economic productivity of the farm. If the squatters want a productive farm, then go and buy it. Thats if your socialist government has provided an adequate education to comprehend the argument.
I quess 'Freedom now, education later' has finally come home to roost.
Good lord! Why Even bother taking questions from the press? What a silly bunch of disingenuous rubbish - why entertain these fools? It just lowers the value and importance of the presentation.
Land reform has to happen if you don’t want to become the next Zimbabwe.
From someone who knows South African politics very well these people shouldn't have made this press conference. It makes them look very stupid. Their relevance would have better been sustained if they remained an underground movement. The points they are raising can fool anyone who doesn't know South African politics
74 Comments here,not one black person commenting, where is all the black people's comments, why are they not commenting?This effects them aswell
Protected by low IQ of 69
We cannot waist our time by commenting on racists
@@machiyanombo6821 it must be that low IQ of yours that cant get its small head around the real facts, it doesnt want to admit that the ANC are destroying , and busy looting this country dry, you, me and every other person in this country irrespective of race is and will be profoundly affected , as to what is comming, PLEASE MAKE ONE VALID POINT ????,,,,,,
Ja but truth is truth, and the post is right, effects everyone
Afriform couldnt be destracted because Afriform knows what they're fighting.
I second @ Grim..... Will be increasing debit order 👌
Well done .
good stuff
make aware the international community to put pressure on South African communist government to rethink their nonsensical policies
This is not a debate let me finish......My hero Kallie, give these lefties stick
Awesome !!!!!
"Let,s send troops to America to defend the rights of South Africa, the ANC said?"' What a joke, this would make a good movie, South African Troops dying of AIDS, before the plane lands in the USA!!
Sorry Alex that movie can not be made they crashed their last transport plane
Alex Morton and that right there shows ur evilness
Bravo
The banal interrogative of the brainwashed SJW is classic
How do we go about donating to Afriforum?
@SS9 • go back to Congo and leave my land
check their website
@SS9 • why caucasus?
@SS9 • Wtf are you talking about? If you implying that I'm white, if so I am honoured. I'm coloured you racist doos.
@SS9 • apartheid does not exist you moron. My situation has not been difficult. What are you talking about? Why are you commenting here if you not south african?
Expropriation of property implies ALL property, not only land. They do not need other laws to take you guns, vehicles, pension etc. WAKE UP SOUTH AFRICA. Legalized theft is still theft. Afriforum....voorwaarts.
The world does not care... they have all their own issues to deal with. Stop looking for international solutions
Too true. From the US - no one here really knows where Africa is, let alone South Africa. And wouldn't care anyway.
Welgedaan Soludariteit en Afriforum. Julle doen. Teveel ander praat net.