I completely agree with you about the part where she talked about beating the Japanese girl. I was at that battle. There is no way (in my mind and 25 year career) she won. She got away with that one for sure. (Also not her fault) (also also you can watch that on line) it was stupid judging decisions. But there was one qualifier here in Aus to get to the Olympics. And from the footage I saw she won. It was a 9 person international judging panel. A few reputable names I know from over seas on the panel and she was the best Bgirl on the day. I was on the outskirts of the whole process here in Aus. And unfortunately without the girls stepping up. I think our whole Oceanic region would have got left out. The qualifier was last second. The info was difficult to get. You had to be registered with 2 or 3 organisations. (Again not her fault) and no one knew what was really happening. But she was the best on the day. And she stepped up and took on the role for the grater community. We all knew she wasn’t on the top tier level. But what can we do here in Aus. There is zero funding and infrastructure. We’re a million miles away from the big comps and scenes. The country is big and hard to get around and has a small population relative to its size. Plus’s no one ever gave a toss about breaking in this country till the Raygun memes came out. The Olympics was a building block to build the scene and get connections. No one would have ever thought this would be the biggest story in the world for over a week. There is no way in the world anyone could have seen this coming lol.
Wow! Thank you so much for this amazing information that puts soooo much into perspective. A lot of what we’re seeing makes sense given what you’ve elaborated on here. And her tongue jut makes 100 x more sense knowing that she probably knows the win was wrong. Wow! Thanks again 🤗
It's like the swimmer from a country in Africa that 'qualified' but was left for dead when in the Olympic heats. The crowds cheered him, but we shot Raygun down (like Aussies often do 😔)
@@TheBehavioralArts the qualifiers were made hard to reach and difficult to understand registering to give her an advantage over everyone else. Proper fraud and embarrassment
@@sarahanderson3897I can comment on this since Im from a country that finds it difficult to qualify for Olympics. They give us Universality slots just so your country can be represented in the Olympics and swimming is a hard sport where if you fail you get left out and people cheering is more of support and acknowledgment pushing through to finish the event, I believe there is a huge difference with this and then someone from the a country which has such huge Olympic history it's disgraceful for this to happen. Referring back to the Universality slots that are given to such countries like mine we have swimmers who swim well but if you don't meet the Olympic standard it don't matter you don't get it. Australia has a huge representation and she apparently qualified for this by winning a tournament somehow. That is not right I hope you're getting what I'm trying to say
Aussie here 🦘I honestly thought that her performance was a comedy stint for entertainment until I realised that it was for real and then I felt second hand embarrassment.
it's like entering a cooking show and saying "what I focus on is getting the ingredients ready and chopping. I don't do the putting the ingredients together and applying heat part that you would associate with Jack over here"
That's what I thought we were witnessing 🤣 Genuinely thought they had done a random draw of a name from the audience to let them 'have a go', a competition being the first breakdancing competition at the games. She even looked like a spectator in that silly uniform which just struck me as an excited fan get-up. Imagine my surprise when I realised she was indeed the actual competitor.
Can you imagine somebody wanting to compete in the hurdles race… But instead of going over them they go around them… And then say, I know my hurdling isn’t strong about jumping over the hurdles, but I have good running form and creativity, so I go around them. (?)
Now this might be the most perfect analogy re: what this woman did & why it's so damn infuriating that she took a spot that she didn't deserve, when it's been proven that there several really talented breakers within the breaking community that actually does exist in Australia. Unsurprisingly, many of them claim they had no idea ANY qualifying competitions had been held. The fact is, it's so freaking obvious that nobody on any of the qualifying committees made any meaningful attempts to get the word out that they were holding qualifiers in breaking for its OFFICIAL debut as an Olympic sport in Paris. I don't think it's a leap, at all to believe that the lack of effort to find more deserving candidates, was a conscious, deliberate choice. I will never believe that this woman & her husband didn't exploit the system in one way or another to ensure that she was on the 2024 Australian team.
The best part of the Olympic competition was her trash yawning while her competitor was breaking then she proceeded to show the skills of a fish thrashing in the bottom of a boat.
Hahaha yeah I’ve really been cringing as much at her reactions as the actual dance because there’s an air of confidence and belonging to them that is… misplaced.
From the BBC, "at an Olympics qualifying event in Sydney last October, where 15 women from across Oceania competed, Raygun emerged triumphant and booked her ticket to Paris." Just imagine if she hadn't gone and one of those other 14 losers she was better than had been there...
I believe she is a narcissist. She and her husband blocked good dancers from attending the tryouts. She defrauded the Aussie taxpayers and they're asking the authorities to investigate. The petition had 50k signatures as of a week ago.
The truth is she has a massive ego because her so called friends and family, never have told her anything negative! Never have told her that she really sucks, maybe should try something else, they were all happy to encourage her and tell her how amazing she is and would have seen her performance b4 she did it at the Olympics. Instead of watching her and being a real friend by telling her that you can't do that, it's really bad, trying to prevent her from being embarrassed and hated by the world and an entire country truly hating her, that's what a real friend or family member would have done. Instead they knew she was going to be so bad, they were ok with what was going to come next. Her EGO is huge to the point she truly believes she is amazing at what she does, because her whole life she has been told how good she is, she has been lied to and false support because that's what society is now days, anything negative is not acceptable even if it's what someone needs to hear!
@@chadjcrase I was going to ask how Matt and Trey would be able to parody her? She already did it to herself? How much more would they have to embellish and would it even be possible? Lmao
There’s nothing wrong with her break dancing. What she was doing in this video did take some ability, flexibility etc. It was simply not worthy of an Olympic placement. I was hoping this was a giant troll on her part cuz I have to admit that would’ve made some people laugh at least. I have no idea how she was convinced nor by who that she was legitimately ready for the Olympics, but sadly she ended up accomplishing the opposite of her goal, cuz she looked like a total fool out there.
Omg. I have been calling her performance a participation award. She and her supporters are saying “she tried her best” as an excuse for the performance and that no one should be judging her for it. You don’t get a participation award at the Olympics. You need a certain skill level that she simply doesn’t have. I think that she was arrogant to try to get into the Olympics. It would be like if I was trying out for a swimming event at the Olympics. I can swim but I am not an extremely good swimmer. If somehow I got chosen and enter the Olympics, people would be making fun of me too. I would not belong there. Criticism of her performance is not bullying. She opened herself up for criticism when she entered the Olympics.
If you met all the criteria and were selected to go to the Olympics then you deserve to be there. There is a much broader purpose to the Olympics than just winning.
@@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996 Competitions have a primary purpose of finding the best competitor. So winning is actually THE prime goal when competing. I know that recently society has had this push where we pretend everyone is the same and we all get a medal regardless of performance or skill, but that sociological drivel goes out the window in an international competition to see what country can win the most gold medals.
When I first saw her break dancing, it was like I was being punked. I know others have said it was like watching SNL, and that's 100% true. I feel she was pulling off one of the biggest Olympic stunts ever! She got her 15 minutes, for sure.
Here's the thing that I think most people find offensive: She knows that she's not as good as the other competitors at the facets of break dancing that require skill and strength, but SHE STILL THINKS THAT SHE BELONGS JUST BECAUSE SHE REALLY REALLY WANTS TO. That's the problem with her and so many other people. They want the acknowledgement and recognition WITHOUT PUTTING IN THE WORK.
@@nicoibanez2725 it got her a trip to Europe with expenses paid, as well as her "coach", her husband, (because the other coach wasn't good enough for her), and now they're on a 5-week tour of Europe
I'm glad you shared her interview, but lets honest, her belief of her skills shouldn't matter. If a person persuades their way into the Olimpics, something went horribly wrong.
It's too coincidental that she has written a PhD thesis called 'Deterritorializing gender in Sydney's breakdancing scene: a B-girl's experience of B-boying'. She was obviously chosen for some DEI reason.
Oh absolutely! That’s exactly the problem with a scoring system that is vague and subjective. There’s no tangible and objective measure to say “you’re not good at this!”
Excellent video. Love the way you broke it down so a boomer could understand. At the end of the day this was peak entitlement. Sweet young lady but she let ambition get in the way of reality.
@@j.y.3604 You may want to look into the history of the Olympic Games and what has been included at various times. Its a wild list. This isn't some U.S. Conservative Gotcha Moment.
@@j.y.3604 Breakdancing is no joke, it is extremely athletically demanding. She made a mockery of it and she highlighted how easily the IOC can be gamed. She did her community a huge disservice and I hope she feels very real consequence for her actions. I think her academic credentials should be revoked as she breached the trust and used her position to gain an unearned advantage, she deserved to be fired from her teaching position as she is clearly not a person of integrity. None of those things should take away from the value of breakdancing however.
@Cyril29a she got her trip with expenses paid to the olympics, as well as a trip for her "coach", her husband, and that allowed them to initiate a 5-week tour of Europe and save some money. She got people to talk about her and, in the process, crushed some kids' dreams
Australian here, I was not impressed by her performance. I thought it was quite embarrassing. I don't understand how she made it into the Olympics at all. From comparing her to the other dancers she is no where near the level they are.
@@Shadowcat31 What? Where did you come up with that story? She qualified fair and square by competing in several events, sometimes being at the very bottom and other times in the top.
@@andreascj73 You typically don't qualify for the Olympics by being a middling-tier performer. Usually, we expect the people who consistently get top scores to go instead of those who sometimes get lucky with subjective judging and sometimes get last place.
@@Shadowcat31That's not true at all, stop spreading misinformation. It was an American ball room dancing association that oversaw all the breaking events. Nobody contacted Raygun to organise anything. It breaches the competition laws in Australia to have some one participate in an event who is organising it.
@@carissaf6909 ok, everyone let's just all calm down, I read that information awhile ago from what I THOUGHT was a credible source, since then many articles have come out telling the REAL story and I haven't had a chance to catch up with it yet. You're right, what I originally posted was incorrect, I read up on it more(which is why it took me so long to reply to this) and see that info was wrong. My bad, I am more than willing to admit when I'm wrong and I appreciate you checking me and informing me. 😉
Listen, I’m black person from the soul city of the US and I have no rhythm. I can’t talk about anyone and would rather listen to Irish folk dance than hip hop. I didn’t even know there was a breakdancing category. I casually watched her and had immediate secondhand embarrassment and thought the Olympics were doing a spoof. I was like, “why the Olympics messing with breakdancers, that’s so mean.” Then…I realized…she was serious and I was slack jawed with horror. It’s like the Ethiopian woman who got in track and field and was as slow as a snail 😂😂😂 that’s why everyone needs a black friend, they would have been like, “baby, god didn’t bless you with that so go sit down.”
Im a white mum from Australia, and I totally agree with you. We have a comedy duo "Kath and Kim" over here, and it suspiciously looked like Kath at the Olympics. Google kath n kim kath dancing. I found out two days later it was not satire and I was just as shocked. She def needs a black friend ❤
Am white Aussie, here, and i agree with you completely. If you look up margaret bland dancing, on youtube, you will see what i thought she was doing. Its a spoof on our awful dancing from thirty years ago. Oh, we all need black friendssss.. plural. Or we die of boredom. Enjoy watching margaret bland! : ) . We also have very talented dancers here. They should have been in Paris , not raygunn. All a bit suss..
I believe the international negativity towards RayGun isn't purely based on how bad her performance was...it's her attitude afterwards. Many athletes at the Olympics came in last or struggled to finish and people cheered them on because the athletes were sincere in their efforts, and failures, and had humility. The American 4x100 relay team that lost badly and got disqualified knew they screwed up and accepted their failures so they can improve. They have been roasted by the media, and you know what they DIDN'T do - they didn't act like victims or say they were trying something 'different' in the sport. Diver Alison Gibson who got zero points when her foot hit the diving board knew she messed up and said she will "keep fighting" to get better. Diving fans love and support her! In light of her zero-points performance and numerous controversies surrounding the Oceania qualifier, RayGun has chosen to take a more grandiose and frankly arrogant route by refusing to admit any mistakes. She said she was just being "different" and "creative". She has a PhD in Breakdancing yet didn't show any of the fundamentals of the sport - basics she would know. The 'sexism' word is being used now to describe the dislike she's getting, which is a misguided cop-out. The other Olympic b-girls are getting praise and support from the same people. Raygun admitted after the event she knew she wouldn't be able to compete against the younger opponents at the games. That in itself is a massive red flag! Regardless of the sport, the Olympics is about competition between the best worldwide who dedicate their lives to their sports. I agree she should not get hate or threats, however, if she can show some humility and acknowledge that the breaking community, and its roots in poor Black and Hispanic neighborhoods in NY, feel disrespected, that would help change the narrative.
This! I hate how she tried (and still tries) to gaslight the whole world into "you just didn't get my performnce" as if it actually was a piece of mordern art. Honestly, if she would have just said sorry afterwards, explained she had no ill intentions, but just couldn't keep up with the pros, this story would have been over after two days.
A thing that really bothers me and that hasn’t been addressed is that she is comfortable calling herself a professor. In Academia, there are levels of Professor positions: -Lecturer (anyone with a masters degree can apply to become a lecturer. It is not a permanent position and they don’t get to pick the classes they teach, she does not have professor status AT ALL. They’re only expected to teach a class) -Assistant prof (that’s where you start when you get a permanent position in academia and get hire as a prof. You’re expected to teach AND do research AND participate to conferences AND write articles/papers/books) -Associate prof (you’re permanent permanent and do the same as assistant profs, usually they will also create their own class and/or lab/chair) -Full prof (highest level of academics, same as before but you’re more advanced in your career and a well established researcher) She is a LECTURER. She is trying to pose as someone she isn’t both in academia AND on stage. Seriously. Friends who are lecturers would NEVER call themselves PROFESSORS honestly, you know the system. You’re not a professor.
@@BenStrickland-fj4bc Yes...the "I'm a gurl, I'm breaking barriers" and the Swift Kickback that criticizing her is misogyny tell me everything I need to know about how she got where she is.
@@NiaPgn Neither did the interpreter. In this case I had no clue there was an issue because I know nothing about break dancing. But Spidey does know and it was instantly obvious to him. And maybe everyone but me. But then I am old...
#1 - I'm convinced Australia is just trolling the rest of us...😂 #2 - There should be no place on that stage for this nonsense. It was incredibly disrespectful to the entire hip-hop culture, to those with real talent, and to other Olympic level athletes.
I speak for Australia and we want nothing to do with her or this mockery. As a big sporting nation taking this as an insult doesn't truly express the current mood
There's been a whole lot of trolling going on lately. It comes from the top. I guarantee you someone knew what they were doing. There's no universe where stuff like this just happens by accident. There would've been countless chances for them to realize their "mistake".
@@jessie1697she was representing her country and even though she wasn’t good, i saw another video with an explanation, it was important to have the representation. I didn’t get it at first but i am ok now. Other dancers, better, much better than her, also got zero points.
Preparing food and cooking it isn't my forté, but I'm really good at finding the most unusual and colorful ingredients. People don't like the taste, but you cannot deny the excellence in my specialty areas.
Can I just say that I believe your whole life has led up to this moment. Seriously, I cannot think of another person that is so wholly qualified to do this critique and breakdown. It’s like the kid inside you is saying “yes! I KNEW my breakdancing obsession would come in handy one day!” I haven’t finished the video, but am already so impressed with the assessment. 😊
Haha thanks so much. You’re right about that feeling, I was definitely thinking “ha!!! Never thought idd need to combine these two passions like this!”
This woman being "creative" with breakdancing is like going to a guitar competition, smashing your guitar into a drumset 77x, shitting on the guitar, then saying "bet you've never seen someone do that with a guitar before 😎".
Watching her break dance felt like more of an SNL skit, than an Olympic performance! Sorry, just keeping it real. I'm more impressed she holds a doctorate and is a professor, than by her "break dancing". Thanks for the great "break down", Spidey!
A doctorate doesn't mean anything more than you can regurgitate what you've been told and will toe the party line. All institutions are corrupt at this point.
I too thought it was a skit or games volunteer steeping up for some comic relief, like a ball boy or girl playing at a tennis match. It’s a real shame that the Breakdance debut and now swan song has been overshadowed by this deluded individual who clearly had no place in the Olympic Games. I believe that she knew exactly what she was doing.
My partner is always saying, "We need to have an Olympics where average people try to do the thing that the professional athlete is doing so that people get a baseline for how hard it actually is," and I think this did exactly that. If anything positive came out of this whole debacle, it is that people have walked away with more respect for breakdancing than they have had in years.
This may have some relevance if Rachael had attempted the 100m Freestyle Final, but this is not a sport anyone knows, nor cares about. As an Aussie, I still love Eddie the Eagle and I didn't even see him. 😄
No I don't agree. We are not fools. We don't need to see AVERAGE people do anything. I've never ever looked at a serious competitive sports person who has worked their way up and thought mmmm maybe I need to see an average person try to do 5 back flips, twist in the air etc to PROVE the athletes are QUALIFIED. You can resesrch a certain discipline of course but suggesting what your suggesting is a ridiculous argument . Your partner sounds as ridiculous as RAYGUNS performance.
In Australia the media is pushing the narrative Stop the Hate . Noone is hating , just having an honest opinion about what is acceptable talent for the world stage,the Olympics.
Why doesn't anyone talk shit about the worst women's soccer/basketball team? Because brands support those sports. So much hate coming from the baseball, karate and cricket communities, which have a whole industry to stand.
Let me start with, I've been a dancer, ballet , modern, ballroom dancer. I've studied in these different fields for years. I cannot imagine entering a ballroom competition without having the skill of the foxtrot, or waltz, but I won anyways. Not possible. Ballet, not possible to enter without having the skill to complete pirouette. But hey, I entered for fun and to inspire. Not possible .She did say she went for, fun and to inspire. Mission accomplished . We are all having fun, and definitely inspiring. It's like, wink wink, competitive sports is not about breaking world records, hundreds of hours if not thousands of hours of training, most of these Olympic athletes started their sport as young as 8 years old. Money is sacrificed, childhood playtime, friends sacrificed, years of being on the road traveling to events. Many move to different countries, schools, states for their sport. But for her, at 37 years old, questionable rankings, how she climbed through her more recently acquired sport, openingly explaining she has not developed needed skills. Her arrogance was apparent, her lack of skills shined. She's an embarrassment to the culture she imposed herself in. I love watching the strength and skills of b-boys and b-girls. Those dancers with true skills is fun and inspiring. Not her.
I definitely agree that it's a shame that someone more qualified (ie, someone with any skill at all) could have been there but wasn't. However, I genuinely don't think she was arrogant - I think it was more the Dunning-Kruger effect at work! While she acknowledged that her skill level was not the highest, she really seemed to believe that it wasn't the lowest either, and that she had enough skill to actually earn a spot in the Olympics. Edit: and I share your second-hand embarrassment at seeing her insert herself into a culture. 😢
What was she even talking about? She has no style, musicality or creativity either. The sprinkler is not her move. She is not good at ANYTHING related to breaking.
She is just indulging in her contemporary dance training while gaslighting the non-breaking community. Also, even though breaking is not that big in Australia, the judges at the qualifiers have a lot to answer for. This is proof that something isn't right with her qualification for the Olympics ua-cam.com/video/kKxuHpIV8k0/v-deo.htmlsi=qic5PsWalfBCUs9N
@funkitup2660 I don't see how she is a dancer at all. Her movements are awkward, and she has zero grace. Contemporary dancers execute unconventional movements but with grace.
She scored zero points...that's zero break dance points. That means she literally did not break dance... she didn't get 1 point for 1 break dance move. Australia should be asking themselves, "WTF was that? Who approved this to represent us....."
To clarify (and as Spidey points out), there wasn't a scoring system for breaking like there is for say figure skating where moves are awarded points. Essentially each match was a 1v1 battle with 3 rounds and an odd number of judges would vote for who won the round. For example, if there's 7 judges maybe 6 judges would vote Red and 1 for Blue. When they say she scored "zero points" it actually means that she got 0 votes in 3 rounds. In all 3 rounds, the judges unanimously voted for her opponent. Still embarrassing, but not quite as embarrassing as "she literally did not complete one single thing that qualified as a breaking move".
its actually votes. so its binary 1 or 0, if a judge thinks you are "better" than your opponent this round, they give you 1. she scored zero votes out of 54 total chances (9 judges x 3 opponents x 2 rounds each opponent) As for the 5 judging criteria in Technique, Execution, Vocabulary, Originality, Musicality, she is "better" 7 out of 270 times (9 judges x 6 rounds x 5 criteria) in terms of percentage. eg. +2%, +1.6% meaning slightly better. So in breaking scoring, its about relative comparison, not out of 10 marks or out of 100. but still she isn't better than her opponent 97.4% of the time, so the skill gap is just too big.
Meanwhile, there are probably hundreds of people in Australia who should have been able to compete for her spot in the Olympics. Ones who could actually Break Dance.
were they actually passed over or did they just not register to compete? I don't know, enlighten me. I felt sorry for her because she actually believes she was Olympic quality....her performance wasn't up to par to even the kid breaking on the street corner...sadly
Apparently her husband and her were key in getting her the spot if her husband was a judge ?? There was a bit of shenanigans going on and her husband was in on it.@@caver6292
@illsaveyes Well…with all the negative press, personally I think she embarrassed/humiliated herself in national tv. Will she have the cojones to do that again? Who knows. Some people believe any press is good press. Personally I felt uncomfortable just watching it.🙈
No, a Simon Cowell should have been part of the committee responsible for the selecting of the people who would represent their country in the Olympics. Her performance was shameful but it happened only because she was allowed there.
I'm Australian and embarrassed of her corruption in entering the Olympics in an unaustralian way. She stole the spotlight of someone who worked hard to deserve it.
That poor lady is going to have students bunny hopping through the hallways for weeks to come. I think she is intellectually fascinated with breakdancing, but she is definitely not a breakdancer skill wise. Baffling how she made it to the olympics considering her competition. Thanks for the great analysis!
Intellect and intelligence are different...the former is "heady" and the latter is "ready"......one comes out of experience-won knowledge via engagement.
It's odd that a university professor can't figure out that she is not good enough, especially a self-proclaimed paid expert in the field of break dancing. It sort of highlights the detritus that has infiltrated our top institutions
I would blame American Idol and its ilk over academia. And she's not a professor. Professor is a job title. She's a lecturer/instructor, which is not a permanent, tenure-track position. They're contracted employees with no long-term investment in the university and vice versa. Not that that has any bearing on the stark fact that she's an acute case of a problem that is not rare in her generation, which is an overdeveloped sense of entitlement. (I say that as a former university lecturer who taught these generations.) Not defending her at all. Just saying she's part of a larger societal tendency that doesn't have much to do with academia, but you sure see it online and on TV all the time.
Wow. This is the first video from you that I've seen. I wasn't sure what I was getting into when you started talking but you deserve a standing ovation for the time and effort that you put into this. This was an absolutely stellar overview of her body language that was done with respect and integrity. Consider me subscribed.
I can't help but feel sorry for all the other people who competed for a chance to go to the Olympics but didn't make it because they chose to send her instead. I do feel bad that she's getting so much hate, but I can't understand how she thought this was going to go any other way.
She's not getting HATE. I'm so fed up with people using that word for ANY type of criticism. She's a spoilt entitled brat. If I'm employed by a company to do their accounts but I've ZERO skills in accounting and lied and used connections to get a position and the companies accounts are EFFED up I get fired and rightfully so. I don't accuse my boss or the company as HATERS. I just suck at the job I was hired to do. That's life. It doesn't matter what context its in. I don't feel remotely bad for her. She's selfish and destroyed more talented people's chance to be there. She should be ashamed of herself. Society needs to stop forgiving absolutely SHOCKINGLY BAD BEHAVIOUR. Just like you can't be a little bit pregnant you can't excuse this in a "oh well " type of talking. She is obnoxious end of story
Olympics was rigged. The judges was attacked by a kung fu kangaroo. they are biased against Australians, if this was held in Australia we would have won
It was really nice to watch this, because as many others, I don't know a thing about break dancing. I could tell she didn't do the same stuff, and she looked like an ordinary person trying to imitate break dancing, but I really appreciate that you brought your knowledge of the sport and explained both the behaviour as well as the sport to us. Thanks for always staying mindful that there's a real human being on the other side of the camera. Enjoyed this video!
Imagine an airliner pilot saying on the intercom that he's glad to have you as a passenger and that he's not good at calculating fuel and landing, or not as good as the stewardess is at it😂😂😂
This is a really great video. Love the science and analytics absent of the assumptions. I love how you assert that nothing is absolute here in this analysis- it allows for people to actually learn something and to think critically.
@@mizzury54 You can say that for literally any sport. "The whole point of swimming is speed and stamina" - that doesn't warrant it being in the olympics!! "The whole point of shooting is precision and focus" - that doesn't warrant it being in the olympics!!
exactly, and the creativity and musicality is suppose to show in how the athleticism, power, and moves are presented...how can this woman have an academic career in studying breakdancing and get that aspect ass backwards 🥴
I just can't get my head around how Raygun even remotely got NEAR the Olympics. Have you seen the skills of breakdancers on the subway in New York? HEAPS, HEAPS, HEAPS, superior. It's disgusting she got that far. Embarrassment. In five years she'll write a book on how she trolled the Olympics.
Exactly this!!! I saw a NY breakdancer who was literally pop locking while doing a handstand! And for her to act like she doesn’t understand why the world is outraged!? She knows very well what she’s doing and she got away with it with the officials but the world sees through her antics
The AOC doesn't want to admit they caused this. They didn't inform people in advance from disadvantaged communities, and this privileged woman with a doctorate, a nice paying position were in the know and just swooped in because there was no real competition. The AOC wasn't going to admit that better disadvantaged dancers didn't have enough time to get funds for a passport and what not.
@@Shadowcat31 That part of what you said has been debunked. Her and her husband didn't form the breakdancing group. It was debunked days ago. The part that is correct is that dancers who were much better didn't know ahead of time. They should have let people know months in advance, but they didn't. She and her husband knew, and she had just enough talent to compete and win since there was only a few people there.
Yeah but those talented folks are probably MEN. And contest judges, institutions (and seemingly the Olympics too) have no trouble devaluing the achievements, talents and abilities of men, in exchange for pity-prizing entitled women who feel "left out". Her entire thesis was about this... the preponderance of men and the "sidelining" of women in the break scene.
I am seeing her performances for the first time and I’m dumbfounded. I so much appreciate the way Spidey handles this with professionalism and his kindness toward the performer while not making excuses.
Love the analysis! Basically she said, “I can’t breakdance, but I’m gonna fake it on the Olympic stage and no one will make fun of me.” Plus, the previous judges didn’t know what they were doing. That baseline should have lost her every competition.
The empathy, compassion and rationale you provide is beautiful. I wish the whole world could absorb this presentation, because these are the concepts that help us all to understand and treat each other better. It all goes back to humanity and our constant struggle with imperfections despite good intentions.
If one defines creativity by doing the same thing as everyone else, then the breaking competition is the least creative sport there is. But most sport isn't about creativity. Also, the music was entirely the choice of the DJ.
It felt clunky. It felt like what one would expect from any random 30-something who got drunk and decided to try break dancing for the first time ever.
This was the best video analysis I've seen on this -- as fair and objective as it gets. She knew she was not good at breakdancing and for some reason deluded herself into thinking she was worthy to compete on the highest stage there is. Anything you're doing -- sport, dance, whatever -- you can't completely bypass the foundational elements of them and still call it that. Like I can't say "I'm a salsa dancer -- I don't know the dance but I have CREATIVITY". THEN YOU'RE NOT A SALSA DANCER -- you're something else, and you'll be inherently bizarre to compete in a competition by that name. She played herself and I wish she listened to that voice that was tugging at her.
I’m a Kiwi - across the “ditch” from Australia. People from other countries sometimes mistake our accents. I’m gonna carry my passport in future so I can PROVE this WAS NOT MY COUNTRIES FAULT!!
I’m one of the lucky ones who happened to watch her performance live because it’s been hard to find it again. I think they have been taking it down. I asked the exact question you vocalized, “How is this at the Olympics?”, and “How was she considered Australia’s best?”
No, NBC has had tight control over all videos. Ozzy man has a review on his sub stack. You can get there by going to his channel here on youtube, looking under the Community post, and taking that link
I tried breaking last year. It was so hard! I could do a couple of freezes but no power moves. The crew of guys that was teaching me were so athletic, strong, flexible, and talented. Their moves were so clean and fast. Raygun is sloppy, slow, and unathletic. She could'nt even hold clean lines with the sprinkler
Break dancing is athleticism first, and "dancing" second. I have never seen a good break dancer who wasnt athletic, the moves they pull off would break my joints at this point D:
I just wanted to commend this behavioral artist in adding more of his research & personal experience with breakdancing. Loved his edits to show different types of break moves & their advance levels. Really appreciated his refusal to bully her, yet he gives a possible answer for why Raygun performed sub par. Thanks for this deep dive video.
I understand what you're saying, but I just want to add to what you said--you recognize that you don't have certain abilities, so you don't pretend to do those things...but she wasn't "pretending," she genuinely believed that she could do this. What's at issue is not that she was pretending, but rather, the huge discrepancy between her actual skill level/ability and the standards/expectations that come with performing at an Olympic level. To the chagrin of many, she didn't have that kind of awareness to foresee just how unexemplary her performance would be on the Olympic stage.
@jl9336 I agree, I also think she has way too many people around her telling she is amazing and also letting her get away with not being good and not wanting to hurt her feelings instead of just being honest. I've seen many women be amazing at break dancing, so I don't understand why they let someone with no talent through to the Olympics. There have to be more qualified women out there.
As an Aussie, we were so proud of the David and Goliath effort of our athletes coming 4th on the medal tally, only for it to be overshadowed by this 36 year old child which embarrassed the nation.
Don't feel too bad. Australia always shines at the Olympics. As a child. I assumed the Aussie population was similar to the US. When I found out it was about the same as Florida, I was stunned. It's truly amazing how strong of a showing Australia puts up at every Olympics. Ray Gunn is the exception that proves to the rest of us that Australia isn't just a medal producing machine and you have mere mortals like the rest of us!
Indian here, we always have this psychological PTSD when it comes to going against the Aussies due to all the heart breaking loses in cricket finals. But this lady has clearly given a fresh perspective. This lady has somehow purged two decades of psychological advantage the Baggy Greens had methodically built against the Indian cricket fans. So on behalf of India 🇮🇳 , thank you Raygun 🙏🏾
I thought she was an Olympic employee like a cleaning operative or something having a laugh. Couldn’t believe it when realised she was a competitor. Comedy Gold. 😂
She smashed more than two stereotypes! This was a disgrace for the Olympian and for all of us who desire to go to the Olympics. And to see her make a joke of it is disgraceful! Also people fought hard to have breakdancing in the Olympics and all she did was make a complete joke about it! She didn't score any points are very low therefore she did not take that part serious you don't go to the Olympics just to have fun or represent women, which she did poorly, it's to win! Very sad.
When I was young, someone with no talent / accomplishments who acted this entitled would have been made fun of (shamed). It's how human society used to mediate itself & maintain standards of behavior. We seem to have eliminated that tool, which may be why we are sinking so quickly past Idiocracy and into depths never previously imagined.
@@Anna_Keythe weirdest thing is that she is a Dr of cultural studies and lectures at a university in Australia - she just became her next lecture on cultural moments!!
@mark123655 The problem is that AusBreak, who hosted the qualifying “competition,” almost certainly didn’t even know where to go to find the best breakdancers in Sydney, let alone all of Oceania. They weren’t really in the culture and probably didn’t know where to even start to get to the events and competitions where young dancers go. These sorts of things aren’t so easy to find with a Google search. Instead of doing the work informing the dance scene about the Olympic opportunity (hint: talk to Asian kids) they volunteered themselves as the “experts” and their own small circle of dancers ended up being the competitors, which was fine with them. Raygun was, in their minds, the right person because of her extracurricular “academic” work playing at being “in the culture.”
@@AbsentMinded619 Not sure if they'd reached everyone, but certainly other people in the scene on Insta knew about it based on other people who is have looked through the history. And ultimately you can only select from those who show up. There was also 45 days notice of the Oceania Champs (not 11 as some of the online tripe has said) and it was held in Sydney CBD, not some difficult to get to place. It's also a difference between breaking casually, and a scored and judged competition where the focus might be different. And it wasn't like the trials where the first organised tournament. Raygun had won one before and placed up there in others, but had also placed 60+ in an international comp.
Imagine you are a breakdancer and are super excited to see your passion be considered as sport in the Olympics for the first time, and even if you knew you wouldn't ever be able to compete you would still absolutely LOVE to watch others compete. Then this woman comes along and single handely destroys that and rips it away from you by making a mockery of the sport causing tthe Olympicss to regret the decision change their minds
The fact that the media is telling everyone to stop saying things because she gave it a go pisses me off. She wasn’t there to give it a go. She’s not in high school. She chose to perform on the world stage where the best of the best go to be judged the best. What was she thinking knowing she can’t do it. There were others -I have heard that couldn’t afford to travel and not enough notice. Honestly we should have just pulled out of the sport for women. Or made a better effort to find someone who can actually do it.
Just because you're bad at something it doesnt mean you shouldn't not do it. So like a hobby. But that's all it is. A hobby. You need to know your limitations.
Performance in terms of trying to pull a fast one on Australia. And the AOC is screwed up by not informing dancers way in advance. That's typical privlege thinking when Breakdancing comes from the streets. It reaks of racism.
Breaking reminds me of the gymnasts on the pommel horse - it's serious athleticism! Imagine a total beginner, a class 3 beginning gymnast, stepping in among those world class gymnasts and expecting to be accepted and celebrated, then being angry when everyone doesn't cooperate.
She lost because she looked like Michael Scott out there. And she’s being mocked because she has his exact same overconfidence and lack of self-awareness. “We are not the same, understand? Now get out of here!” - The Hudson Hornet
I think her performance was hilarious and memorable. She was definitely creative in her moves, and I suspect there will be immitations and nods to this, for years to come. It didn't at all look like breakdancing. But I found it delightful to watch. It needs to be in a movie or something :-)
I pulled a muscle, while laying on the floor... watching someone showing me a Breakdance move 😂 immediately buried my hope, to attend the olympics. A lifetime ago... 😅
The sad thing is there is another Australian breakdancer in Australia who is far more skilled that missed out on a chance to represent their country at the Olympics. This really highlights a failing in the selection process.
@@megag52 I don’t know the scene at all and don’t follow it. I just knew that Raygun could not possibly have been our most talented breakdancer in the country. I knew there must have been someone who was more talented who missed out. I just Googled Molly Chapman and watched a performance and in my opinion she is far better than Raygun across all the aspects breakdancing is judged by as outlined by Spidey.
This is a narrative that keeps being pushed but fact is both Molly and Gunn competed in an international event and Gunn came 64th and Molly came 79th (out of 90). Actual breakers i have seen critique the qualification battle say that Gunn legitimately beat Molly due to better perfected techniques and creativity albeit acknowledged that Molly's moves were more complex.
She should of never been there. That is what people are mad about. The Olympics are supposed to be the best in the WORLD. We hold Olympic athletes in high regard for a reason. She and her people should of never thought she had a chance. It is sad that no one told her beforehand. It is sad hse thought she deserved to be there.
From the BBC, "at an Olympics qualifying event in Sydney last October, where 15 women from across Oceania competed, Raygun emerged triumphant and booked her ticket to Paris" She won the right to be there. I think you mean Breaking should have never been in the Olympics. Then I could have got behind you....
I think the fact that break dancing is an art before a sport is what makes her feel that she can pass a lack of skill and athleticism off as "creativity" or just a difference in style. She also seems to think that her knowledge of the art/sport and her status as an academic on the subject gives her performance greater credibility. The problem is that these ways of thinking don't hold weight in the context of competing on an Olympic level.
But, she doesn't even TALK like a breaker! For someone who wrote their college thesis on the topic, I and claims to be breaking for over 10 years-I havnt even heard her refer to any moves by name- like she doesn't know them....
RayGunn just seemed to be flailing about. At one point you see her making a second attempt to lift her lower body with one leg because she didn't succeed the first time. Watching her made me think of the mockumentary "Waiting for Guffman" in which small town, would-be thespians with zero talent attempt to make the big time in a self-directed musical. They also spend a lot of time talking about the crucial points of their performances which makes the characters both heart breaking and funny. On the other hand the breakdancer shown starting at 10:17 had me shouting "Oh my god!" because he is obviously incredibly talented and strong. Such speed and precision! So much so that its exciting to see. Spidey, you get the gold medal for not lookimg for a villain and for your clear, thorough analysis of this situation.
I completely agree with you about the part where she talked about beating the Japanese girl. I was at that battle. There is no way (in my mind and 25 year career) she won. She got away with that one for sure. (Also not her fault) (also also you can watch that on line) it was stupid judging decisions. But there was one qualifier here in Aus to get to the Olympics. And from the footage I saw she won. It was a 9 person international judging panel. A few reputable names I know from over seas on the panel and she was the best Bgirl on the day. I was on the outskirts of the whole process here in Aus. And unfortunately without the girls stepping up. I think our whole Oceanic region would have got left out. The qualifier was last second. The info was difficult to get. You had to be registered with 2 or 3 organisations. (Again not her fault) and no one knew what was really happening. But she was the best on the day. And she stepped up and took on the role for the grater community. We all knew she wasn’t on the top tier level. But what can we do here in Aus. There is zero funding and infrastructure. We’re a million miles away from the big comps and scenes. The country is big and hard to get around and has a small population relative to its size. Plus’s no one ever gave a toss about breaking in this country till the Raygun memes came out. The Olympics was a building block to build the scene and get connections. No one would have ever thought this would be the biggest story in the world for over a week. There is no way in the world anyone could have seen this coming lol.
Wow! Thank you so much for this amazing information that puts soooo much into perspective. A lot of what we’re seeing makes sense given what you’ve elaborated on here. And her tongue jut makes 100 x more sense knowing that she probably knows the win was wrong. Wow! Thanks again 🤗
It's like the swimmer from a country in Africa that 'qualified' but was left for dead when in the Olympic heats. The crowds cheered him, but we shot Raygun down (like Aussies often do 😔)
@@TheBehavioralArts the qualifiers were made hard to reach and difficult to understand registering to give her an advantage over everyone else. Proper fraud and embarrassment
So, basically, she is qualified to be there due to technicalities? That would make sense.
@@sarahanderson3897I can comment on this since Im from a country that finds it difficult to qualify for Olympics. They give us Universality slots just so your country can be represented in the Olympics and swimming is a hard sport where if you fail you get left out and people cheering is more of support and acknowledgment pushing through to finish the event, I believe there is a huge difference with this and then someone from the a country which has such huge Olympic history it's disgraceful for this to happen. Referring back to the Universality slots that are given to such countries like mine we have swimmers who swim well but if you don't meet the Olympic standard it don't matter you don't get it. Australia has a huge representation and she apparently qualified for this by winning a tournament somehow. That is not right I hope you're getting what I'm trying to say
Aussie here 🦘I honestly thought that her performance was a comedy stint for entertainment until I realised that it was for real and then I felt second hand embarrassment.
She and her husband should be investigated for corruption!
I thought it was a skit too 😂
This should be investigated and can we trust on IOC and AOC statement..
@@MKitchen75 We absolutely cannot trust any statement from IOC or AOC as they are defending this trash.
@@suzy5166whered u hear that misinformation?
Some of her moves I have made this morning trying to vacuuming under the bed.
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Best comment ever 🫶🏼
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Maybe we’ll see you in the Olympics next time!
Gold 😂😂😂
I'm a horrible guitar player. Fortunately my strength is playing loud. 😂😂😂
Looolll 💯
Good point. She should start a punk band
@@Squidward_Tikilandcome on, dont let her loose to destroy another art form.
I went through pilot training. I was really good at flying straight and level, but taking off and landing weren't my strong point.
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it's like entering a cooking show and saying "what I focus on is getting the ingredients ready and chopping. I don't do the putting the ingredients together and applying heat part that you would associate with Jack over here"
Great analogy 😂
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My wife always says they should let a "regular" person try each event at the Olympics. I think we got our first experience of that here
That's what I thought we were witnessing 🤣 Genuinely thought they had done a random draw of a name from the audience to let them 'have a go', a competition being the first breakdancing competition at the games. She even looked like a spectator in that silly uniform which just struck me as an excited fan get-up. Imagine my surprise when I realised she was indeed the actual competitor.
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Is that like getting a participation trophy ?
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I had a roommate who was a "regular" person who could break dance SOOOO much better than her
Can you imagine somebody wanting to compete in the hurdles race… But instead of going over them they go around them… And then say, I know my hurdling isn’t strong about jumping over the hurdles, but I have good running form and creativity, so I go around them. (?)
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“I have a doctorate in breakdancing so the Olympic committee should admit me because of my academic credentials”
Now this might be the most perfect analogy re: what this woman did & why it's so damn infuriating that she took a spot that she didn't deserve, when it's been proven that there several really talented breakers within the breaking community that actually does exist in Australia. Unsurprisingly, many of them claim they had no idea ANY qualifying competitions had been held. The fact is, it's so freaking obvious that nobody on any of the qualifying committees made any meaningful attempts to get the word out that they were holding qualifiers in breaking for its OFFICIAL debut as an Olympic sport in Paris. I don't think it's a leap, at all to believe that the lack of effort to find more deserving candidates, was a conscious, deliberate choice. I will never believe that this woman & her husband didn't exploit the system in one way or another to ensure that she was on the 2024 Australian team.
😂🎉NAILED it!❤
@@teresaroby4441Her father-in-law had some involvement too , I believe.
The best part of the Olympic competition was her trash yawning while her competitor was breaking then she proceeded to show the skills of a fish thrashing in the bottom of a boat.
Hahaha yeah I’ve really been cringing as much at her reactions as the actual dance because there’s an air of confidence and belonging to them that is… misplaced.
omg lmao fish thrashing around YES!!
That move was called the Magic Carp Slash.
Her performance WAS the most valuable by marketing metrics, just not dancing metrics.@@TheBehavioralArts
It was basically interpretive dancing achieved through break dancing. Absolutely awful.
Who told her she could breakdance? That’s the biggest crime
I guess it was lie, or he'd never have sex again.
It's her level of confidence that gets me. I can't believe that she believes that she is that good.
The way she kept tapping the Australian emblem as if she was making her country proud 😭🤦♀️
So typical of the colligate system in Australia atm. The universities are full of these tossers.
From the BBC, "at an Olympics qualifying event in Sydney last October, where 15 women from across Oceania competed, Raygun emerged triumphant and booked her ticket to Paris." Just imagine if she hadn't gone and one of those other 14 losers she was better than had been there...
I believe she is a narcissist. She and her husband blocked good dancers from attending the tryouts. She defrauded the Aussie taxpayers and they're asking the authorities to investigate. The petition had 50k signatures as of a week ago.
The truth is she has a massive ego because her so called friends and family, never have told her anything negative! Never have told her that she really sucks, maybe should try something else, they were all happy to encourage her and tell her how amazing she is and would have seen her performance b4 she did it at the Olympics. Instead of watching her and being a real friend by telling her that you can't do that, it's really bad, trying to prevent her from being embarrassed and hated by the world and an entire country truly hating her, that's what a real friend or family member would have done. Instead they knew she was going to be so bad, they were ok with what was going to come next. Her EGO is huge to the point she truly believes she is amazing at what she does, because her whole life she has been told how good she is, she has been lied to and false support because that's what society is now days, anything negative is not acceptable even if it's what someone needs to hear!
I can't wait for the South park episode of her...
It's hard to parody any more; when things go 'beyond' parody.
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@@chadjcrase I was going to ask how Matt and Trey would be able to parody her? She already did it to herself? How much more would they have to embellish and would it even be possible? Lmao
You sir, made my day!🤣
Yep! It'll be hard but they'll find a way.
She's smashing the stereotype that Olympians are good at their events.
underrated comment
Didn't she get a 0?
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There’s nothing wrong with her break dancing. What she was doing in this video did take some ability, flexibility etc. It was simply not worthy of an Olympic placement. I was hoping this was a giant troll on her part cuz I have to admit that would’ve made some people laugh at least. I have no idea how she was convinced nor by who that she was legitimately ready for the Olympics, but sadly she ended up accomplishing the opposite of her goal, cuz she looked like a total fool out there.
She could be Andy Kaufman
One meme really nails it :"No one ever remembers last place! Wait, what...??“
Omg. I have been calling her performance a participation award. She and her supporters are saying “she tried her best” as an excuse for the performance and that no one should be judging her for it.
You don’t get a participation award at the Olympics. You need a certain skill level that she simply doesn’t have. I think that she was arrogant to try to get into the Olympics. It would be like if I was trying out for a swimming event at the Olympics. I can swim but I am not an extremely good swimmer. If somehow I got chosen and enter the Olympics, people would be making fun of me too. I would not belong there. Criticism of her performance is not bullying. She opened herself up for criticism when she entered the Olympics.
If you met all the criteria and were selected to go to the Olympics then you deserve to be there. There is a much broader purpose to the Olympics than just winning.
Kids in parks or sidewalks breakdance much much better than this
Olympics are for showing the best she’s an amateur at best @@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996 7:49
@@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996 Competitions have a primary purpose of finding the best competitor. So winning is actually THE prime goal when competing. I know that recently society has had this push where we pretend everyone is the same and we all get a medal regardless of performance or skill, but that sociological drivel goes out the window in an international competition to see what country can win the most gold medals.
@@theKashConnoisseur What does anything you just said have to do with my comment?
When I first saw her break dancing, it was like I was being punked. I know others have said it was like watching SNL, and that's 100% true. I feel she was pulling off one of the biggest Olympic stunts ever! She got her 15 minutes, for sure.
I hope she gets only this limited time of attention and not one cent or other benefit. Oy.
I know, I saw the clips but didn’t realise she as competing, I just thought someone was taking the Micky.
@@SuperSecretSilliness She'll be on the next season of "Dancing With. The Dickheads" and "Get Me Out Of Here, I'm A Dickhead"
@SuperSecretSilliness exactly!
At least Eddie the Eagle was able to leap off the ski slope and land.....although not very far !!!!😂😂😂..effort was put in.
Here's the thing that I think most people find offensive: She knows that she's not as good as the other competitors at the facets of break dancing that require skill and strength, but SHE STILL THINKS THAT SHE BELONGS JUST BECAUSE SHE REALLY REALLY WANTS TO. That's the problem with her and so many other people. They want the acknowledgement and recognition WITHOUT PUTTING IN THE WORK.
cultural marxism ~~
This is what having PhD on fix dancing gets her 😂😂
All of this!
But she IDENTIFIES as a 18 year old b girl😂
@@nicoibanez2725 it got her a trip to Europe with expenses paid, as well as her "coach", her husband, (because the other coach wasn't good enough for her), and now they're on a 5-week tour of Europe
She’s a break dancer. She’s not a world-class breakdancer. It was cruel to allow her to go. Someone should have realized this much, much earlier.
I'm glad you shared her interview, but lets honest, her belief of her skills shouldn't matter.
If a person persuades their way into the Olimpics, something went horribly wrong.
It's too coincidental that she has written a PhD thesis called 'Deterritorializing gender in Sydney's breakdancing scene: a B-girl's experience of B-boying'. She was obviously chosen for some DEI reason.
is it possible the problem is that there are no good female breakers in Australia? I haven't seen anything on who her competition is.
@HeathSims-dz7rp Well she can obviously talk the talk, but walk the walk?? Nah.
Oh absolutely! That’s exactly the problem with a scoring system that is vague and subjective. There’s no tangible and objective measure to say “you’re not good at this!”
Excellent video. Love the way you broke it down so a boomer could understand. At the end of the day this was peak entitlement. Sweet young lady but she let ambition get in the way of reality.
I'm still utterly baffled. And jumping around like a 3 year old imitating a kangaroo is not creativity!
@@j.y.3604 You may want to look into the history of the Olympic Games and what has been included at various times. Its a wild list. This isn't some U.S. Conservative Gotcha Moment.
@@j.y.3604 Breakdancing is no joke, it is extremely athletically demanding. She made a mockery of it and she highlighted how easily the IOC can be gamed. She did her community a huge disservice and I hope she feels very real consequence for her actions. I think her academic credentials should be revoked as she breached the trust and used her position to gain an unearned advantage, she deserved to be fired from her teaching position as she is clearly not a person of integrity.
None of those things should take away from the value of breakdancing however.
I thought the one creative thing was the kangaroo. No one else has ever done it in breaking. lol
@@addie_is_me Kangaroos have
@Cyril29a she got her trip with expenses paid to the olympics, as well as a trip for her "coach", her husband, and that allowed them to initiate a 5-week tour of Europe and save some money. She got people to talk about her and, in the process, crushed some kids' dreams
She said her moves were focused on style, musicality and creativity but we got none of that.
@@renarouge5558 How does
" musicality" figure into it?
@@kirbywaite1586 Musicality helps dancers create smooth transitions between moves that match the beat and rhythm of the music.
@@kirbywaite1586 A breakdancer who can respond to the music in real-time often scores higher than someone who performs without regard to the music.
@@renarouge5558 I see. Well, more evidence of her incompetency. Thanks.
Exactly she really dances to her own drum. It feels like I matter what she does it felt out of time
I think she had the biggest reality check anyone ever had on this earth.
Yet the reality didn't sink in! haha!
Unfortunately it wasn't big enough to sink in 😂
Her body language while breakdancing : I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BREAKDANCE !!!!!
Beached whale or a dog rolling in the grass .
This comment made me laugh outloud!
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I was going with "Drunk suburban wine mom."
Australian here, I was not impressed by her performance. I thought it was quite embarrassing. I don't understand how she made it into the Olympics at all. From comparing her to the other dancers she is no where near the level they are.
@@Shadowcat31 What? Where did you come up with that story? She qualified fair and square by competing in several events, sometimes being at the very bottom and other times in the top.
@@andreascj73 You typically don't qualify for the Olympics by being a middling-tier performer. Usually, we expect the people who consistently get top scores to go instead of those who sometimes get lucky with subjective judging and sometimes get last place.
@@Shadowcat31That's not true at all, stop spreading misinformation. It was an American ball room dancing association that oversaw all the breaking events. Nobody contacted Raygun to organise anything. It breaches the competition laws in Australia to have some one participate in an event who is organising it.
@@carissaf6909 ok, everyone let's just all calm down, I read that information awhile ago from what I THOUGHT was a credible source, since then many articles have come out telling the REAL story and I haven't had a chance to catch up with it yet. You're right, what I originally posted was incorrect, I read up on it more(which is why it took me so long to reply to this) and see that info was wrong. My bad, I am more than willing to admit when I'm wrong and I appreciate you checking me and informing me. 😉
@@andreascj73 read my reply above
Listen, I’m black person from the soul city of the US and I have no rhythm. I can’t talk about anyone and would rather listen to Irish folk dance than hip hop. I didn’t even know there was a breakdancing category. I casually watched her and had immediate secondhand embarrassment and thought the Olympics were doing a spoof. I was like, “why the Olympics messing with breakdancers, that’s so mean.” Then…I realized…she was serious and I was slack jawed with horror. It’s like the Ethiopian woman who got in track and field and was as slow as a snail 😂😂😂 that’s why everyone needs a black friend, they would have been like, “baby, god didn’t bless you with that so go sit down.”
Im a white mum from Australia, and I totally agree with you.
We have a comedy duo "Kath and Kim" over here, and it suspiciously looked like Kath at the Olympics.
Google kath n kim kath dancing.
I found out two days later it was not satire and I was just as shocked.
She def needs a black friend ❤
You wild
Am white Aussie, here, and i agree with you completely. If you look up margaret bland dancing, on youtube, you will see what i thought she was doing. Its a spoof on our awful dancing from thirty years ago.
Oh, we all need black friendssss.. plural. Or we die of boredom.
Enjoy watching margaret bland! : ) .
We also have very talented dancers here. They should have been in Paris , not raygunn. All a bit suss..
My thoughts exactly!! She needed a friend for sure!!
@@chrismartin5450she does now....
I believe the international negativity towards RayGun isn't purely based on how bad her performance was...it's her attitude afterwards. Many athletes at the Olympics came in last or struggled to finish and people cheered them on because the athletes were sincere in their efforts, and failures, and had humility. The American 4x100 relay team that lost badly and got disqualified knew they screwed up and accepted their failures so they can improve. They have been roasted by the media, and you know what they DIDN'T do - they didn't act like victims or say they were trying something 'different' in the sport. Diver Alison Gibson who got zero points when her foot hit the diving board knew she messed up and said she will "keep fighting" to get better. Diving fans love and support her! In light of her zero-points performance and numerous controversies surrounding the Oceania qualifier, RayGun has chosen to take a more grandiose and frankly arrogant route by refusing to admit any mistakes. She said she was just being "different" and "creative". She has a PhD in Breakdancing yet didn't show any of the fundamentals of the sport - basics she would know. The 'sexism' word is being used now to describe the dislike she's getting, which is a misguided cop-out. The other Olympic b-girls are getting praise and support from the same people. Raygun admitted after the event she knew she wouldn't be able to compete against the younger opponents at the games. That in itself is a massive red flag! Regardless of the sport, the Olympics is about competition between the best worldwide who dedicate their lives to their sports. I agree she should not get hate or threats, however, if she can show some humility and acknowledge that the breaking community, and its roots in poor Black and Hispanic neighborhoods in NY, feel disrespected, that would help change the narrative.
This! I hate how she tried (and still tries) to gaslight the whole world into "you just didn't get my performnce" as if it actually was a piece of mordern art. Honestly, if she would have just said sorry afterwards, explained she had no ill intentions, but just couldn't keep up with the pros, this story would have been over after two days.
A thing that really bothers me and that hasn’t been addressed is that she is comfortable calling herself a professor. In Academia, there are levels of Professor positions:
-Lecturer (anyone with a masters degree can apply to become a lecturer. It is not a permanent position and they don’t get to pick the classes they teach, she does not have professor status AT ALL. They’re only expected to teach a class)
-Assistant prof (that’s where you start when you get a permanent position in academia and get hire as a prof. You’re expected to teach AND do research AND participate to conferences AND write articles/papers/books)
-Associate prof (you’re permanent permanent and do the same as assistant profs, usually they will also create their own class and/or lab/chair)
-Full prof (highest level of academics, same as before but you’re more advanced in your career and a well established researcher)
She is a LECTURER. She is trying to pose as someone she isn’t both in academia AND on stage. Seriously. Friends who are lecturers would NEVER call themselves PROFESSORS honestly, you know the system. You’re not a professor.
Thanks for this , I didn’t know the distinction. So She is delulu not just in breakdancing
Oh, That is very interesting. 😮 oops. 😂❤ SMH, Australia 🇦🇺.
Thanks for the clarification. She exaggerates her accomplishments in multiple fields. She's probably gotten through life that way.
@@BenStrickland-fj4bc Yes...the "I'm a gurl, I'm breaking barriers" and the Swift Kickback that criticizing her is misogyny tell me everything I need to know about how she got where she is.
You missed one thing in your levels - a full professor has been granted TENURE.
Ray gun gets a score of 10 for Delusion. 😂
What happens when Mummy and Daddy want to spare your little feelings and refuse to tell you this isn’t for you, try something else.
@elizabethnicholas1939 yes, she has never heard the word "no" in her life
Yes but she’s just competed in the Olympics 🤔
Peak delusion
Delusions of grandeur
She reminds me of that South African sign language interpreter that was just saying nonsense to deaf persons but looked genuine to hearing persons.
😂😂😂😂
Best analogy yet 😂😂😂
Not the same because this didn’t make sense to anyone 😅
@@NiaPgn Neither did the interpreter. In this case I had no clue there was an issue because I know nothing about break dancing. But Spidey does know and it was instantly obvious to him. And maybe everyone but me. But then I am old...
@@zanniesmomyou didn’t see any breaking back in the 80s and 90s at all?
It was like watching a game of "Twister" with only one person playing.
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#1 - I'm convinced Australia is just trolling the rest of us...😂
#2 - There should be no place on that stage for this nonsense. It was incredibly disrespectful to the entire hip-hop culture, to those with real talent, and to other Olympic level athletes.
💯 👏🏼 PREACH
As a Bronx native, this spoke vol. Thank u! ❤️
I speak for Australia and we want nothing to do with her or this mockery. As a big sporting nation taking this as an insult doesn't truly express the current mood
There's been a whole lot of trolling going on lately. It comes from the top. I guarantee you someone knew what they were doing.
There's no universe where stuff like this just happens by accident. There would've been countless chances for them to realize their "mistake".
The Les Twins are real Breakers! She’s educated and mentally ill! I kinda feel sorry for her! Mentally Ill an educated are not always good together!
@@jessie1697she was representing her country and even though she wasn’t good, i saw another video with an explanation, it was important to have the representation. I didn’t get it at first but i am ok now. Other dancers, better, much better than her, also got zero points.
She's the Elaine of breakdancing 😂😂😂😂
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Clicking the like gives an Elaine thumbs up. 👍
My dog scratching her back while on the floor did it better.
Even the Kangaroos are pissed off.
That performance was actually what I would picture in my head of a 30-something college professor break dancing from Australia! 😂😂😂😂
Haha. So she’s not smashing the stereotypes, she’s right on the money.
@@TheBehavioralArtsBut in doing so she displaces and deterritorializes gender (whatever that's supposed to mean) 😂
😂😂😂😂
@@Litig8r_ "deterritorializes gender"
@@incamoran9532You do realize that I was quoting from her dissertation's abstract, don't you? 🫣
Preparing food and cooking it isn't my forté, but I'm really good at finding the most unusual and colorful ingredients. People don't like the taste, but you cannot deny the excellence in my specialty areas.
4:54 I truthfully do not believe that her weaknesses dynamics, I honestly feel like her true weakness was lack of talent
Her weakness is lack of self awareness.
And lack of ability/ athleticism.
@@simfimpimBoom! 😂
@@frankG335 that wasn't her final form! she was saving her best dance moves for the final! you damn fools!
Or lack of self awareness?
This was the most mature and knowledgeable analysis of Rayguns performance I have viewed. Well done.
I was thinking while listening to this that Spidey is a phenomenal communicator.
Nope, he did not
Let's face it, it was just rubbish. There I said it😂
@lindacooper355 yes.
And you were right ha
The Blunder from Down Under.
@@sacramentostu 🤣🤣🤣
@sacramentostu yes, whoever selected her for the Olympic games needs to be ashamed of themselves.
😂The Kangaroo pose is my new dance move now at parties. 🤣🤣 🎉 🥳
😂 I know that was the one I think that will catch on
Can I just say that I believe your whole life has led up to this moment. Seriously, I cannot think of another person that is so wholly qualified to do this critique and breakdown. It’s like the kid inside you is saying “yes! I KNEW my breakdancing obsession would come in handy one day!” I haven’t finished the video, but am already so impressed with the assessment. 😊
Haha thanks so much. You’re right about that feeling, I was definitely thinking “ha!!! Never thought idd need to combine these two passions like this!”
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Thats it, I'm sending my 3 year old to the Olympics when she's throwing a tantrum because...its talent apparently
Bahahahaha
Your 3 year old and my special needs 22 year old.... He can hurle a glass across the room like nobody's business!
Heck, I'm in my 50s, but I think I can do it, so I might just go myself!
😂best comment
xDDD
You know it's bad when you watch the Olympics and say...I can do that😂
And better 😂😂
Wow, true.
It’s *really* bad when you say “I can do that”….and you can actually do better! 😂
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This woman being "creative" with breakdancing is like going to a guitar competition, smashing your guitar into a drumset 77x, shitting on the guitar, then saying "bet you've never seen someone do that with a guitar before 😎".
Watching her break dance felt like more of an SNL skit, than an Olympic performance! Sorry, just keeping it real. I'm more impressed she holds a doctorate and is a professor, than by her "break dancing". Thanks for the great "break down", Spidey!
Even though her doctorate is BS as well as her dissertation.
A doctorate doesn't mean anything more than you can regurgitate what you've been told and will toe the party line. All institutions are corrupt at this point.
Rachael Dratch, an SNL alum, "interupted" Jimmy Fallon's monologue and did a bit as Rachel Gunn. So there's kinda an SNL skit
I too thought it was a skit or games volunteer steeping up for some comic relief, like a ball boy or girl playing at a tennis match. It’s a real shame that the Breakdance debut and now swan song has been overshadowed by this deluded individual who clearly had no place in the Olympic Games. I believe that she knew exactly what she was doing.
Haha rachel drach from SNL appeared on Jimmy Fallon and mocked this routine.. she did pretty well lol
My partner is always saying, "We need to have an Olympics where average people try to do the thing that the professional athlete is doing so that people get a baseline for how hard it actually is," and I think this did exactly that. If anything positive came out of this whole debacle, it is that people have walked away with more respect for breakdancing than they have had in years.
This may have some relevance if Rachael had attempted the 100m Freestyle Final, but this is not a sport anyone knows, nor cares about. As an Aussie, I still love Eddie the Eagle and I didn't even see him. 😄
Sorry about the double-negative there.
The old Olympics was like that.
No I don't agree. We are not fools. We don't need to see AVERAGE people do anything. I've never ever looked at a serious competitive sports person who has worked their way up and thought mmmm maybe I need to see an average person try to do 5 back flips, twist in the air etc to PROVE the athletes are QUALIFIED. You can resesrch a certain discipline of course but suggesting what your suggesting is a ridiculous argument . Your partner sounds as ridiculous as RAYGUNS performance.
exactly. It's like acting. you don't think there's much skill to it until you watch someone who really can't act
In Australia the media is pushing the narrative Stop the Hate . Noone is hating , just having an honest opinion about what is acceptable talent for the world stage,the Olympics.
That's the world we live in. Truth can't be told. It's considered hate.
Exactly. Disagreement is not hatred.
Nor is crapping oneself laughing.
Why doesn't anyone talk shit about the worst women's soccer/basketball team? Because brands support those sports. So much hate coming from the baseball, karate and cricket communities, which have a whole industry to stand.
😂@@Plethorality
I’ve seen tons of Australians mortified .
As an Aussie, I don't think we'll ever fully recover from this. It's so shameful 😬
Sad but true. We might have to turn you back into a prison - have a bit of a time out
Let me start with, I've been a dancer, ballet , modern, ballroom dancer. I've studied in these different fields for years. I cannot imagine entering a ballroom competition without having the skill of the foxtrot, or waltz, but I won anyways. Not possible. Ballet, not possible to enter without having the skill to complete pirouette. But hey, I entered for fun and to inspire. Not possible .She did say she went for, fun and to inspire. Mission accomplished . We are all having fun, and definitely inspiring. It's like, wink wink, competitive sports is not about breaking world records, hundreds of hours if not thousands of hours of training, most of these Olympic athletes started their sport as young as 8 years old. Money is sacrificed, childhood playtime, friends sacrificed, years of being on the road traveling to events. Many move to different countries, schools, states for their sport. But for her, at 37 years old, questionable rankings, how she climbed through her more recently acquired sport, openingly explaining she has not developed needed skills. Her arrogance was apparent, her lack of skills shined. She's an embarrassment to the culture she imposed herself in. I love watching the strength and skills of b-boys and b-girls. Those dancers with true skills is fun and inspiring. Not her.
I definitely agree that it's a shame that someone more qualified (ie, someone with any skill at all) could have been there but wasn't. However, I genuinely don't think she was arrogant - I think it was more the Dunning-Kruger effect at work! While she acknowledged that her skill level was not the highest, she really seemed to believe that it wasn't the lowest either, and that she had enough skill to actually earn a spot in the Olympics.
Edit: and I share your second-hand embarrassment at seeing her insert herself into a culture. 😢
And don’t forget all the injuries, surgeries, therapy… Also, many gymnasts start at age 2-3.
I've said the same thing as a competitive martial artist. The level of delusion on that chick is unbelievable.
Now that dancing! Breaking has always looked more like gymnastics to me.
Brilliant analysis. And it's the people around her too. Very self centered and disrespectful
What was she even talking about? She has no style, musicality or creativity either. The sprinkler is not her move. She is not good at ANYTHING related to breaking.
She is just indulging in her contemporary dance training while gaslighting the non-breaking community. Also, even though breaking is not that big in Australia, the judges at the qualifiers have a lot to answer for. This is proof that something isn't right with her qualification for the Olympics ua-cam.com/video/kKxuHpIV8k0/v-deo.htmlsi=qic5PsWalfBCUs9N
*S P R I N K L A A H*
@funkitup2660 I don't see how she is a dancer at all. Her movements are awkward, and she has zero grace. Contemporary dancers execute unconventional movements but with grace.
For real.
@@cybrpunk Facts
She scored zero points...that's zero break dance points. That means she literally did not break dance... she didn't get 1 point for 1 break dance move. Australia should be asking themselves, "WTF was that? Who approved this to represent us....."
We are asking that question...unfortunately our woke leaders are not asking...
I’m still wondering how break dancing became an Olympic event… Raygun is more academic than practical. Something went wrong in the selection process.
To clarify (and as Spidey points out), there wasn't a scoring system for breaking like there is for say figure skating where moves are awarded points. Essentially each match was a 1v1 battle with 3 rounds and an odd number of judges would vote for who won the round. For example, if there's 7 judges maybe 6 judges would vote Red and 1 for Blue. When they say she scored "zero points" it actually means that she got 0 votes in 3 rounds. In all 3 rounds, the judges unanimously voted for her opponent. Still embarrassing, but not quite as embarrassing as "she literally did not complete one single thing that qualified as a breaking move".
its actually votes. so its binary 1 or 0, if a judge thinks you are "better" than your opponent this round, they give you 1. she scored zero votes out of 54 total chances (9 judges x 3 opponents x 2 rounds each opponent)
As for the 5 judging criteria in Technique, Execution, Vocabulary, Originality, Musicality, she is "better" 7 out of 270 times (9 judges x 6 rounds x 5 criteria) in terms of percentage. eg. +2%, +1.6% meaning slightly better.
So in breaking scoring, its about relative comparison, not out of 10 marks or out of 100.
but still she isn't better than her opponent 97.4% of the time, so the skill gap is just too big.
I got just as many points as her from my couch.
Her over confidence is obnoxious. Just because you do something for years, doesn't automatically mean your good at it.
Meanwhile, there are probably hundreds of people in Australia who should have been able to compete for her spot in the Olympics. Ones who could actually Break Dance.
were they actually passed over or did they just not register to compete? I don't know, enlighten me. I felt sorry for her because she actually believes she was Olympic quality....her performance wasn't up to par to even the kid breaking on the street corner...sadly
Yes this was a fixed competition that her husband ran and then she won.
Apparently her husband and her were key in getting her the spot if her husband was a judge ?? There was a bit of shenanigans going on and her husband was in on it.@@caver6292
@@laurad324🤷♂️seriously ffs
@illsaveyes Well…with all the negative press, personally I think she embarrassed/humiliated herself in national tv. Will she have the cojones to do that again? Who knows. Some people believe any press is good press. Personally I felt uncomfortable just watching it.🙈
She should have had a Simon Cowell in her life when she first started out with breaking in 2007.
Hell yeah.
Brilliant! 👏
No, a Simon Cowell should have been part of the committee responsible for the selecting of the people who would represent their country in the Olympics.
Her performance was shameful but it happened only because she was allowed there.
For the first time I feel like at 62 I can begin breakdancing. I may fall and break a hip but no one will be the wiser.
😅 I'm right here with you! 😅
Hey great idea!! We can start our own team!!😂😂😂😂
brew some moonshine and ypou'll have no headspins gone wrong lol
@@LynetteA68it's called a crew, let's get serious here 😂
Well, you can also try curling. That honestly doesn't take much either.
A breakdancer saying that power moves and freezes are their weaknesses is like being a Hamburger chef who can’t cook beef patties
She plays the guitar listening to it 😂
I'm Australian and embarrassed of her corruption in entering the Olympics in an unaustralian way. She stole the spotlight of someone who worked hard to deserve it.
Corruption?
That poor lady is going to have students bunny hopping through the hallways for weeks to come.
I think she is intellectually fascinated with breakdancing, but she is definitely not a breakdancer skill wise. Baffling how she made it to the olympics considering her competition.
Thanks for the great analysis!
Intellect and intelligence are different...the former is "heady" and the latter is "ready"......one comes out of experience-won knowledge via engagement.
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Weeks? She wishes! She will never live this down.
@@Adelicows - I still watch pretty much every YT parody short of her that crops up in my feed.... and so far, they've still not gotten boring.
It's odd that a university professor can't figure out that she is not good enough, especially a self-proclaimed paid expert in the field of break dancing. It sort of highlights the detritus that has infiltrated our top institutions
It's odd that she is a university professor.
I don't think her university could be top rated.
Academia is full of arrogant people
I would blame American Idol and its ilk over academia.
And she's not a professor. Professor is a job title. She's a lecturer/instructor, which is not a permanent, tenure-track position. They're contracted employees with no long-term investment in the university and vice versa.
Not that that has any bearing on the stark fact that she's an acute case of a problem that is not rare in her generation, which is an overdeveloped sense of entitlement. (I say that as a former university lecturer who taught these generations.)
Not defending her at all. Just saying she's part of a larger societal tendency that doesn't have much to do with academia, but you sure see it online and on TV all the time.
Wow. This is the first video from you that I've seen. I wasn't sure what I was getting into when you started talking but you deserve a standing ovation for the time and effort that you put into this. This was an absolutely stellar overview of her body language that was done with respect and integrity. Consider me subscribed.
Thanks so much 😊 I’m so glad you enjoyed it
I can't help but feel sorry for all the other people who competed for a chance to go to the Olympics but didn't make it because they chose to send her instead. I do feel bad that she's getting so much hate, but I can't understand how she thought this was going to go any other way.
She's right up there with North West's Lion King performance.
And, the ones who are too young for 2024, because the 2028 Olympics won't include break dancing.
She killed their chances.
@@JLady4 Oh wow, I hadn’t heard of that so just had to look it up! 😆
@zxyatiywariii8 The irony is that the next one may take place again at the 2032 Olympics in Brisbane, Australia.
She's not getting HATE. I'm so fed up with people using that word for ANY type of criticism. She's a spoilt entitled brat. If I'm employed by a company to do their accounts but I've ZERO skills in accounting and lied and used connections to get a position and the companies accounts are EFFED up I get fired and rightfully so. I don't accuse my boss or the company as HATERS. I just suck at the job I was hired to do. That's life. It doesn't matter what context its in. I don't feel remotely bad for her. She's selfish and destroyed more talented people's chance to be there. She should be ashamed of herself. Society needs to stop forgiving absolutely SHOCKINGLY BAD BEHAVIOUR. Just like you can't be a little bit pregnant you can't excuse this in a "oh well " type of talking. She is obnoxious end of story
She devoted her entire academic and athletic career to pulling off one of the biggest Andy Kaufman style stunts in Olympics history.
Olympics was rigged. The judges was attacked by a kung fu kangaroo. they are biased against Australians, if this was held in Australia we would have won
Andy would be proud.
🤣🤣 That's a blast from the past but yes, exactly what it was.
Mighty Mouse is on the way!!!!
And then she's going to write a book about it.
It was really nice to watch this, because as many others, I don't know a thing about break dancing. I could tell she didn't do the same stuff, and she looked like an ordinary person trying to imitate break dancing, but I really appreciate that you brought your knowledge of the sport and explained both the behaviour as well as the sport to us. Thanks for always staying mindful that there's a real human being on the other side of the camera. Enjoyed this video!
Justice for Molly Chapman!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 😊
@@TheBehavioralArtsI’d be interested to see your analysis of her statements since the event.
Agreed! Great video as always!
Imagine an airliner pilot saying on the intercom that he's glad to have you as a passenger and that he's not good at calculating fuel and landing, or not as good as the stewardess is at it😂😂😂
I can't believe you knew that THIS was the video we all NEEDED. I feel like I need popcorn for this one🍿😂
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That's a plan! I'm going to go make me some popcorn to settle into this. Thanks for the idea! 🍿🍿🍿
Agreed, he said all the things I want to say in a cool, calm, respectful manner, something I’d find difficult in this situation 😂
This is a really great video. Love the science and analytics absent of the assumptions. I love how you assert that nothing is absolute here in this analysis- it allows for people to actually learn something and to think critically.
The whole POINT of breakdancing is athleticism, power & amazing moves.
That doesn't warrant it being in the Olympics .
@@mizzury54 You can say that for literally any sport. "The whole point of swimming is speed and stamina" - that doesn't warrant it being in the olympics!! "The whole point of shooting is precision and focus" - that doesn't warrant it being in the olympics!!
exactly, and the creativity and musicality is suppose to show in how the athleticism, power, and moves are presented...how can this woman have an academic career in studying breakdancing and get that aspect ass backwards 🥴
I just can't get my head around how Raygun even remotely got NEAR the Olympics. Have you seen the skills of breakdancers on the subway in New York? HEAPS, HEAPS, HEAPS, superior. It's disgusting she got that far. Embarrassment. In five years she'll write a book on how she trolled the Olympics.
Exactly this!!! I saw a NY breakdancer who was literally pop locking while doing a handstand! And for her to act like she doesn’t understand why the world is outraged!? She knows very well what she’s doing and she got away with it with the officials but the world sees through her antics
The AOC doesn't want to admit they caused this. They didn't inform people in advance from disadvantaged communities, and this privileged woman with a doctorate, a nice paying position were in the know and just swooped in because there was no real competition. The AOC wasn't going to admit that better disadvantaged dancers didn't have enough time to get funds for a passport and what not.
@@Shadowcat31 That part of what you said has been debunked. Her and her husband didn't form the breakdancing group. It was debunked days ago. The part that is correct is that dancers who were much better didn't know ahead of time. They should have let people know months in advance, but they didn't. She and her husband knew, and she had just enough talent to compete and win since there was only a few people there.
Yeah but those talented folks are probably MEN. And contest judges, institutions (and seemingly the Olympics too) have no trouble devaluing the achievements, talents and abilities of men, in exchange for pity-prizing entitled women who feel "left out". Her entire thesis was about this... the preponderance of men and the "sidelining" of women in the break scene.
Its embarrassing that break dancing was even considered as an Olympic competition.
I think this is like going to Olympics for swimming and saying I might not be fast, but I won’t drown
This woman had 0 athleticism. How was she able to qualify and compete for the Olympics. What a scandal. This needs to be investigated.
The scandal is breaking being included in the first place.
I am seeing her performances for the first time and I’m dumbfounded. I so much appreciate the way Spidey handles this with professionalism and his kindness toward the performer while not making excuses.
Dr. Grande’s analysis is pretty hilarious.
Love the analysis! Basically she said, “I can’t breakdance, but I’m gonna fake it on the Olympic stage and no one will make fun of me.” Plus, the previous judges didn’t know what they were doing. That baseline should have lost her every competition.
The empathy, compassion and rationale you provide is beautiful. I wish the whole world could absorb this presentation, because these are the concepts that help us all to understand and treat each other better. It all goes back to humanity and our constant struggle with imperfections despite good intentions.
She over-valued creativity and musicality but then wasn’t even that creative or musical.
Amazingly delusional. In other words, a narcissist. Read her 550pp thesis. The uni needs investigating.
If one defines creativity by doing the same thing as everyone else, then the breaking competition is the least creative sport there is. But most sport isn't about creativity. Also, the music was entirely the choice of the DJ.
She overvalued the creativity because she knew she couldn't compete physically. She was in way over her head
Perhaps she over estimated the appeal of her creativity and it was a risk that didnt work out
Ozzy Man discussed how her dance was all mimicing behaviors of Australian animals--his review was quite creative
There was no creativity. It was a hot mess. No control over movements at all. No rhythm.
Cultural Marxism at its finest/
That's not entirely true. There was a lot of creativity.... Just like a toddler... Lots of toddler like creativity....
Maybe it should never have been in the Olympics to begin with? Maybe that was the point?
It felt clunky. It felt like what one would expect from any random 30-something who got drunk and decided to try break dancing for the first time ever.
@@zxyatiywariii8 I would like to see you exposed to the Olympic media, and the 'social' element that goes with it.
This was the best video analysis I've seen on this -- as fair and objective as it gets. She knew she was not good at breakdancing and for some reason deluded herself into thinking she was worthy to compete on the highest stage there is. Anything you're doing -- sport, dance, whatever -- you can't completely bypass the foundational elements of them and still call it that. Like I can't say "I'm a salsa dancer -- I don't know the dance but I have CREATIVITY". THEN YOU'RE NOT A SALSA DANCER -- you're something else, and you'll be inherently bizarre to compete in a competition by that name. She played herself and I wish she listened to that voice that was tugging at her.
I’m a Kiwi - across the “ditch” from Australia. People from other countries sometimes mistake our accents. I’m gonna carry my passport in future so I can PROVE this WAS NOT MY COUNTRIES FAULT!!
Aussie here and I don't blame you for wanting to do so!
I’m one of the lucky ones who happened to watch her performance live because it’s been hard to find it again. I think they have been taking it down. I asked the exact question you vocalized, “How is this at the Olympics?”, and “How was she considered Australia’s best?”
No, NBC has had tight control over all videos. Ozzy man has a review on his sub stack. You can get there by going to his channel here on youtube, looking under the Community post, and taking that link
@@LindaC616 , thanks!
@@heathernewbold406 yw!
Her performance was worthy of an SNL skit. I have a feeling we may see it in their next season.
Chloe Feinman already has a short out about it 😅
That is their wheelhouse I suppose. Save the intelligent analysis for everyone else.
I tried breaking last year. It was so hard! I could do a couple of freezes but no power moves. The crew of guys that was teaching me were so athletic, strong, flexible, and talented. Their moves were so clean and fast. Raygun is sloppy, slow, and unathletic. She could'nt even hold clean lines with the sprinkler
Break dancing is athleticism first, and "dancing" second. I have never seen a good break dancer who wasnt athletic, the moves they pull off would break my joints at this point D:
@@k4yserNah it’s both; best fighters can dance too
I just wanted to commend this behavioral artist in adding more of his research & personal experience with breakdancing. Loved his edits to show different types of break moves & their advance levels. Really appreciated his refusal to bully her, yet he gives a possible answer for why Raygun performed sub par. Thanks for this deep dive video.
I cant sing so i dont go out and pretend i can i cant dance so i dont go out and pretend i can. I have second-hand embarrassment for this behavior
Karaoke in a nutshell
Admirable quality in you! I love it when people know their strengths and weaknesses.
I understand what you're saying, but I just want to add to what you said--you recognize that you don't have certain abilities, so you don't pretend to do those things...but she wasn't "pretending," she genuinely believed that she could do this. What's at issue is not that she was pretending, but rather, the huge discrepancy between her actual skill level/ability and the standards/expectations that come with performing at an Olympic level. To the chagrin of many, she didn't have that kind of awareness to foresee just how unexemplary her performance would be on the Olympic stage.
@jl9336 I agree, I also think she has way too many people around her telling she is amazing and also letting her get away with not being good and not wanting to hurt her feelings instead of just being honest. I've seen many women be amazing at break dancing, so I don't understand why they let someone with no talent through to the Olympics. There have to be more qualified women out there.
You can't write well, but you're out here doing it. Stop the hypocrisy.
As an Aussie, we were so proud of the David and Goliath effort of our athletes coming 4th on the medal tally, only for it to be overshadowed by this 36 year old child which embarrassed the nation.
Don't feel too bad. Australia always shines at the Olympics. As a child. I assumed the Aussie population was similar to the US. When I found out it was about the same as Florida, I was stunned. It's truly amazing how strong of a showing Australia puts up at every Olympics. Ray Gunn is the exception that proves to the rest of us that Australia isn't just a medal producing machine and you have mere mortals like the rest of us!
Indian here, we always have this psychological PTSD when it comes to going against the Aussies due to all the heart breaking loses in cricket finals. But this lady has clearly given a fresh perspective. This lady has somehow purged two decades of psychological advantage the Baggy Greens had methodically built against the Indian cricket fans. So on behalf of India 🇮🇳 , thank you Raygun 🙏🏾
Don't worry about that. French people love Australian people whatever! 💙🇨🇵❤️🇦🇺
I legit feel bad for yall
Australia is beautiful. Also full of good people..
I thought she was an Olympic employee like a cleaning operative or something having a laugh. Couldn’t believe it when realised she was a competitor. Comedy Gold. 😂
😂😂😂
A volunteer you mean?
YES! I thought she was like the rodeo clown or something but the Olympic version 😂
@@DustAndGraceASMR ...a rodeo clown 🤣🤣🤣
She smashed more than two stereotypes! This was a disgrace for the Olympian and for all of us who desire to go to the Olympics. And to see her make a joke of it is disgraceful! Also people fought hard to have breakdancing in the Olympics and all she did was make a complete joke about it! She didn't score any points are very low therefore she did not take that part serious you don't go to the Olympics just to have fun or represent women, which she did poorly, it's to win! Very sad.
When I was young, someone with no talent / accomplishments who acted this entitled would have been made fun of (shamed). It's how human society used to mediate itself & maintain standards of behavior. We seem to have eliminated that tool, which may be why we are sinking so quickly past Idiocracy and into depths never previously imagined.
Very well said. These days, we're so terrified of being branded as a "bully" that natural, critical feedback is no longer in play.
Right. She is a perfect example of current culture.
Reminds me of that kid's story 'The Emperor's New Clothes' Nobody will speak the obvious any more.
@@Anna_Keythe weirdest thing is that she is a Dr of cultural studies and lectures at a university in Australia - she just became her next lecture on cultural moments!!
I disagree, for example your comment is stupid because you just watched a vid shaming someone. Ya, our shaming skills are top notch, don't worry.
The fact remains she was chosen above far superior Australian competitors. We still need answers.
Just don't understand why they picked her.??
@@JeanMackie-nn6uhIf you see any reels of the Oceania comp, there just wasn't much talent there.
@mark123655 The problem is that AusBreak, who hosted the qualifying “competition,” almost certainly didn’t even know where to go to find the best breakdancers in Sydney, let alone all of Oceania. They weren’t really in the culture and probably didn’t know where to even start to get to the events and competitions where young dancers go. These sorts of things aren’t so easy to find with a Google search. Instead of doing the work informing the dance scene about the Olympic opportunity (hint: talk to Asian kids) they volunteered themselves as the “experts” and their own small circle of dancers ended up being the competitors, which was fine with them. Raygun was, in their minds, the right person because of her extracurricular “academic” work playing at being “in the culture.”
She is the priest of wokeism. She delivers "the message"
@@AbsentMinded619 Not sure if they'd reached everyone, but certainly other people in the scene on Insta knew about it based on other people who is have looked through the history. And ultimately you can only select from those who show up. There was also 45 days notice of the Oceania Champs (not 11 as some of the online tripe has said) and it was held in Sydney CBD, not some difficult to get to place. It's also a difference between breaking casually, and a scored and judged competition where the focus might be different.
And it wasn't like the trials where the first organised tournament. Raygun had won one before and placed up there in others, but had also placed 60+ in an international comp.
Can you imagine anyone wanting to embarrass themselves so publicly in order to get a free trip to Paris?
Imagine you are a breakdancer and are super excited to see your passion be considered as sport in the Olympics for the first time, and even if you knew you wouldn't ever be able to compete you would still absolutely LOVE to watch others compete. Then this woman comes along and single handely destroys that and rips it away from you by making a mockery of the sport causing tthe Olympicss to regret the decision change their minds
The fact that the media is telling everyone to stop saying things because she gave it a go pisses me off.
She wasn’t there to give it a go.
She’s not in high school.
She chose to perform on the world stage where the best of the best go to be judged the best.
What was she thinking knowing she can’t do it.
There were others -I have heard that couldn’t afford to travel and not enough notice.
Honestly we should have just pulled out of the sport for women.
Or made a better effort to find someone who can actually do it.
You are very kind. ‘Not quite at the level’ is one heck of an understatement.
Just because you're bad at something it doesnt mean you shouldn't not do it. So like a hobby. But that's all it is. A hobby. You need to know your limitations.
Either Australia punk’d us on purpose or the Olympics did! There’s no way someone saw her and thought “Olympics!”
I am sorry, but “performance” is a strong word and generous way to describe that “break dance”.
At first, I thought it was an interpretive dance routine.
Performance in terms of trying to pull a fast one on Australia. And the AOC is screwed up by not informing dancers way in advance. That's typical privlege thinking when Breakdancing comes from the streets. It reaks of racism.
Of what ? scooby doo and the gang running away perhaps
Breaking reminds me of the gymnasts on the pommel horse - it's serious athleticism!
Imagine a total beginner, a class 3 beginning gymnast, stepping in among those world class gymnasts and expecting to be accepted and celebrated, then being angry when everyone doesn't cooperate.
A bit unrelated to your comment - which I agree with btw - but are there any adult beginner gymnasts? Don't they all start really young?
She lost because she looked like Michael Scott out there. And she’s being mocked because she has his exact same overconfidence and lack of self-awareness.
“We are not the same, understand? Now get out of here!”
- The Hudson Hornet
I think her performance was hilarious and memorable. She was definitely creative in her moves, and I suspect there will be immitations and nods to this, for years to come. It didn't at all look like breakdancing. But I found it delightful to watch. It needs to be in a movie or something :-)
You knowing about breaking is not something I had on my Bingo card... 🤯
He's multi faceted 😂
Ikr! 🤯🤣
It was a lifetime ago. If I tried a single thing now I would dislocate my everything and that’s still while being upright 😆
@@TheBehavioralArts I feel ya Spidey 😂😂
I pulled a muscle, while laying on the floor... watching someone showing me a Breakdance move 😂 immediately buried my hope, to attend the olympics. A lifetime ago... 😅
The sad thing is there is another Australian breakdancer in Australia who is far more skilled that missed out on a chance to represent their country at the Olympics. This really highlights a failing in the selection process.
Yeah mean Molly?
@@megag52 I don’t know the scene at all and don’t follow it. I just knew that Raygun could not possibly have been our most talented breakdancer in the country. I knew there must have been someone who was more talented who missed out. I just Googled Molly Chapman and watched a performance and in my opinion she is far better than Raygun across all the aspects breakdancing is judged by as outlined by Spidey.
@@mmlv44633 there a absolutely mo doubt that on pretty much any random street of western Sydney you could find someone better than rachel gunn
This is a narrative that keeps being pushed but fact is both Molly and Gunn competed in an international event and Gunn came 64th and Molly came 79th (out of 90). Actual breakers i have seen critique the qualification battle say that Gunn legitimately beat Molly due to better perfected techniques and creativity albeit acknowledged that Molly's moves were more complex.
She should of never been there. That is what people are mad about. The Olympics are supposed to be the best in the WORLD. We hold Olympic athletes in high regard for a reason. She and her people should of never thought she had a chance. It is sad that no one told her beforehand. It is sad hse thought she deserved to be there.
From the BBC, "at an Olympics qualifying event in Sydney last October, where 15 women from across Oceania competed, Raygun emerged triumphant and booked her ticket to Paris" She won the right to be there. I think you mean Breaking should have never been in the Olympics. Then I could have got behind you....
Strange situation, but a fantastically interesting analysis. I'll be watching more of your videos!
I think the fact that break dancing is an art before a sport is what makes her feel that she can pass a lack of skill and athleticism off as "creativity" or just a difference in style. She also seems to think that her knowledge of the art/sport and her status as an academic on the subject gives her performance greater credibility. The problem is that these ways of thinking don't hold weight in the context of competing on an Olympic level.
This is 1 of the best comments I have seen yet.
I would say its equally sport and art. Kinda how music is art and entertainment
The really bad thing about this is - She stole a talented young womans opportunity with this. Its not every year that you have that chance.
But, she doesn't even TALK like a breaker! For someone who wrote their college thesis on the topic, I and claims to be breaking for over 10 years-I havnt even heard her refer to any moves by name- like she doesn't know them....
*breaking
She like that kid in grade school who sees breakdancing once and tries to impress everyone on the playground with their impression of it.
RayGunn just seemed to be flailing about.
At one point you see her making a second attempt to lift her lower body with one leg because she didn't succeed the first time.
Watching her made me think of the mockumentary "Waiting for Guffman" in which small town, would-be thespians with zero talent attempt to make the big time in a self-directed musical.
They also spend a lot of time talking about the crucial points of their performances which makes the characters both heart breaking and funny.
On the other hand the breakdancer shown starting at 10:17 had me shouting "Oh my god!" because he is obviously incredibly talented and strong.
Such speed and precision! So much so that its exciting to see.
Spidey, you get the gold medal for not lookimg for a villain and for your clear, thorough analysis of this situation.