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  • It's time for a little more reacting to bogus apologists misrepresenting evolution! This time we are going multicultural, with the help of the channel Science is Dope. What does Hinduism have to say about evolution? How does it compare to Christianity? Together we watch videos from Sadhguru and Frank Turek and have a little fun dismantling their absurd rhetoric. Enjoy!
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  • @kaisipe412
    @kaisipe412 Рік тому +133

    I once saw a statement that really stuck with me. "Your inability to grasp science is not an argument against it."

  • @johnfitzgerald8879
    @johnfitzgerald8879 Рік тому +149

    "Reptiles are turtles, snakes, lizards, alligators and crocodiles. Unlike amphibians, reptiles breathe only through their lungs and have dry, scaly skin that prevents them from drying out."

    • @uncleanunicorn4571
      @uncleanunicorn4571 Рік тому +17

      Professor David should know that, he may need to do another collab with aronra.

    • @tomfoolery5680
      @tomfoolery5680 Рік тому +15

      And most importantly reptiles have completely self contained, homeostatic eggs. Laid, incubated and hatched on dry land. A few even give live birth as well. Amphibians require water. I'm pretty sure amphibians go through multiple life stages as well. Idk if all of them do.

    • @baconghoti
      @baconghoti Рік тому +33

      @@uncleanunicorn4571 going to give him the benefit of the doubt and allow he confused or misheard amphibious and amphibian. Plenty of animals are amphibious and not amphibian.

    • @NewNecro
      @NewNecro Рік тому +9

      ​@@baconghoti I think that as well but then again if the correction is "reptiles" the context would undoubtedly be biological classification and not lifestyle.

    • @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
      @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Рік тому +1

      They are not an Earth 🌍 turtle. Though, I don't think he *understands* the difference.

  • @kallisto9166
    @kallisto9166 Рік тому +539

    Kudos to ScienceIsDope. India needs more skeptical voices and fewer godmen.

    • @CrimWorld9
      @CrimWorld9 Рік тому +10

      SID was great, but SID and Dave had such little chemistry... They both felt so awkward with each other. Maybe if they collab more they might start getting a rhythm... but this video was painful to watch/listen to.

    • @theTranscendentOnes
      @theTranscendentOnes Рік тому +17

      @@CrimWorld9 Nah, you're projecting. They were fine.

    • @CrimWorld9
      @CrimWorld9 Рік тому +2

      @@theTranscendentOnes Projecting? What do you mean?

    • @theTranscendentOnes
      @theTranscendentOnes Рік тому +6

      @@CrimWorld9 You're seeing something that isn't there that is a reflection of your character/perspective and not necessarily of the conversation you're talking about.

    • @CrimWorld9
      @CrimWorld9 Рік тому +7

      @@theTranscendentOnes It's interesting that was your choice to describe me tho. I said they were awkward with each other because they constantly had long pauses and were often responding each other with "hmmm ... uh... right... yeaaa..." or "mhmm". I said that this might just be a product with them not being comfortable with each other yet, so it will get better with more videos that they make together.
      However, you took that to mean that there was something wrong with my character? Are you sure I'm the one that's projecting?

  • @dramaloop4658
    @dramaloop4658 Рік тому +852

    Please dont be charitable to hindu preacher. Please make a series debunking him please whole india will thanks you in future

  • @XenopathDNB
    @XenopathDNB Рік тому +264

    Would love to see more collabs with @ScienceIsDope. This was fantastic!

    • @anteshell
      @anteshell Рік тому +6

      I read your comment before I saw his channel name. I read it as "sciencel". An adaptation from "incel". Was a bit confused why would you call him like that, but then I read his name.
      As a side note, "sciencel" would be quite apt name for flat earthers and similar science deniers.

    • @ryansergas2776
      @ryansergas2776 Рік тому +1

      @@anteshell I read it like that too, lol

    • @dendaGulliLapoch
      @dendaGulliLapoch Рік тому +1

      @@anteshell lmfao

    • @LisaAnn777
      @LisaAnn777 Рік тому +1

      ​@@anteshell I'm going to be calling them that now. Because many of them also seem to be incels.

    • @Devilnero1991
      @Devilnero1991 Рік тому

      I say this with the upmost respect but @ScienceisDope comes across as an idiot here. I think he finally realized major objections about Sadhguru is not good enough. Dave as always picked up where Sadhguru actually makes bullshit like using terms that doesn't mean anything like "Evolutionary memory"

  • @angusyang5917
    @angusyang5917 Рік тому +107

    Creationist books: You can't defeat us by yourself.
    Charles Darwin: I know, but they can:
    *Gets bodied by a century and a half of evolutionary and origin of life research*

    • @siaotak4657
      @siaotak4657 Рік тому +2

      Genesis is undeniably allegorical. Science and religion can go hand-in-hand perfectly if said religion allows for interpretation. If you have a basic education in philology you will understand that the Bible has a much, MUUUUUCH deeper meaning. If you read Genesis and interpret it literally you only prove that you've never read a poem in your life and can't understand meaning.

    • @laxminarayanbhandari855
      @laxminarayanbhandari855 Рік тому +2

      Fucking genius.

    • @angusyang5917
      @angusyang5917 Рік тому +9

      @@siaotak4657 Most religious books are indeed allegorical, and were written at a different period of time, which is why I don't advocate for religion being completely pushed out of schools, but rather its significance and facts taught in a scientific and academic manner in the history, not science, class. However, that does not mean that everything must conform to whatever these books say.

    • @Julian0101
      @Julian0101 Рік тому +9

      @@siaotak4657 Ah yes, if you interpretate "plants existed before the sun" alegorically, then of course genesis and science can go hand in hands.
      Too bad that what the meaning of this poem actually means is something that no one has literally never proven.

    • @junodonatus4906
      @junodonatus4906 Рік тому +12

      ​@@siaotak4657
      I don't see why science and religion should go hand-in-hand at all. All religions should be taught in school but as the myths that they are. There's nothing wrong with learning about Greek mythology as long as school is not teaching you that Zeus is real. The same for goes for Jesus.

  • @sreelakshmi7472
    @sreelakshmi7472 Рік тому +109

    Sadhguru's fluency in English and his usage of intricate sounding terms like evolutionary memory, genetic memory bla bla somehow makes people believe in whatever he says irrespective of whether it makes sense or not. Many people believe and agree with his ideas though some things don't make sense at all.

    • @shubhamrawat_69
      @shubhamrawat_69 Рік тому +30

      Quantum dimensions

    • @theTHINKER69420
      @theTHINKER69420 Рік тому +20

      @@deepakjanardhanan7394 "There may be much beyond senses... Which don't make any "sense"... Hmm"🤓

    • @sreelakshmi7472
      @sreelakshmi7472 Рік тому +17

      @@deepakjanardhanan7394 by 'which don't make any sense' i mean which are straight up absurb and meaningless. He asserts many things that are pointless and inevident. Sure, there are some things that are beyond senses. Some of his assertions have evidence and some don't. I don't hate him or anything. It's just my view.

    • @sreelakshmi7472
      @sreelakshmi7472 Рік тому +6

      @@theTHINKER69420 guess he doesn't have a counter argument, so he just deleted the comment.

    • @deepakjanardhanan7394
      @deepakjanardhanan7394 Рік тому +5

      @@sreelakshmi7472 there many people who have experienced beyond senses. They don't speak. Because they know people will make fun out of them or crucify them. Only a few such speak, that too in a very limited manner. Sadhguru is one such being. I'm sure he has not shared even 1% of what he experienced or experiences...

  • @danpettinger1353
    @danpettinger1353 Рік тому +87

    He is indeed a very sad guru.

  • @berniethekiwidragon4382
    @berniethekiwidragon4382 Рік тому +21

    I can't help but hear "Sad Guru".

  • @karamhaikhudaka
    @karamhaikhudaka Рік тому +44

    I never knew this collab would happen but I'm so glad it did! I would love to see more videos like these.

    • @ajaypg4850
      @ajaypg4850 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/iGPCzCQw0c4/v-deo.html Nasa scientist who converted to Hinduism.

  • @penultimatosis
    @penultimatosis Рік тому +47

    I know someone who dropped out of college to go study under Sadhguru for a few years and he helped develop the local isha temple and travels across the country teaching yoga and doing rituals to tend to holy rooms in peoples houses. I had the “fundamentalist heebegeebeez” whenever he would talk about it and this is the first thing I’ve seen confirming that instinct was correct so here’s an algorithm bump as thanks for doing the good work.

    • @VARMOT123
      @VARMOT123 Рік тому +7

      He says some general mindfulness stuff but inevitably goes into this nonsense

    • @ajaypg4850
      @ajaypg4850 Рік тому

      Bible Scientific Errord
      Six day creation
      The idea that the Earth and the Universe were created in six days a few thousand years ago is completely unscientific. The age of the universe is calculated as being around 13.8 billion years while Earth is calculated to have formed 4.5 billion years ago. The difference between these two dates is significantly greater than six days. For those biblical literalists who argue for a 7,000 year old earth, there are multiple lines of evidence against a recent creation and-by extension-against a six day creation.
      Human evolution
      The claim that humans were the result of a special creation event at the end of this six day period is wrong. In fact, the evidence that humans and other animals evolved gradually over a period of some three to four billion years is overwhelming.
      A global flood
      There is no evidence for a global flood event as described in the Bible. While there is evidence for large floods in regions spanning all over the world, there is nothing to suggest one giant flood engulfed the planet surface. Many ancient tribes and religions across the globe have flood myths, likely arising from past events. This does not suggest the flood described in the story of Noah actually occurred.
      Tower of Babel
      There is no linguistic evidence for any of the events included in the Tower of Babel myth.
      Anatomy of insects
      Leviticus 11:20-23 (NIV):
      All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground. Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper. But all other winged creatures that have four legs you are to detest.
      While some would see this as a scientific error, J.P. Holding has an "explanation":[3]
      Is this an error -- since insects have six legs, not four, and since "fowl" have two legs, not four? The reference to "fowl" is thought by some skeptics to refer to birds, but the word used here is 'owph, which merely means a creature with wings -- it is the same word used in verse 21 (flying). The reference in both cases is to insects. But there is an even better - and more correct - answer.
      Quite simply, the big back legs on the locust, etc. were not counted as "legs" in the same sense as the other legs. Let's use an illustration from our popular literature, George Orwell's Animal Farm. In this story, Snowball the pig invented the slogan, "Four legs good, two legs bad" so as to exclude humans from Animal Farm society. The geese and other fowl objected, because they had only two legs. Snowball explained (more clearly in the book than in the movie) that in animal terms, the birds' wings counted as legs because they were limbs of propulsion, not manipulation, as a human's arms and hands were.
      Now note the differentiation in Leviticus above -- referring to "legs above the feet" for leaping. The "feet" are being differentiated from the "legs above the feet" because of their difference in function. They are legs, but in a different sense than the "four" legs which are just called "feet." We are being told of two types of legs: The "on all four" legs (which are nowhere called legs; they are only called "feet" [v. 23]), and the "leaping legs." It is clear that the Hebrews regarded the two large, hopping hind limbs of the locust and the other insects of the same type, which are the only types of insects mentioned here (we now translate "beetle" as "cricket"), as something different than the other four limbs - perhaps because they were used primarily for vertical propulsion, whereas the other limbs were for scurrying around. (Shifts of terminology like this happen even today; check this proposal to redefine "planet".)
      What the above explanation so clearly misses is the fact that when the Bible mentions that “All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you” [Group A] this group does not include those with leaping legs as shown by the fact this group does not include those with leaping legs as shown by the fact that the very next passage states “There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground.” [Group B]
      Now if the passages lacked the first half discussing Group A, evangelical apologists such as J.P. Holding may have some ground. But as the biblical text clearly differentiates Group A (those with no jointed legs) as separate to Group B (those with said jointed legs) and yet both groups are defined as having four legs, this argument can be of no defense. Even if J.P Holding were correct on the still unsubstantiated basis that the ancient Hebrews defined crickets and similar insects of Group B as having four typical legs and two "jointed legs" for leaping,that still would not explain the missing legs of the beetles and other non-leaping insects from Group A which are discussed separately.
      One should also note that the mentioned passage from Animal Farm provides an example of the pigs making up a clever excuse to justify and amend a previous mistake. In fact, Orwell's tale was a complete satire on how apologists operate, a literary device that went right over the head of J.P. Holding, who to the surprise of none, thinks the porcine ratiocination should be taken seriously. A real-life apologist invoking the B.S. excuse of a fictional apologist and not realizing that the character was actually a mockery of himself represents pure poetic justice.

  • @env0x
    @env0x Рік тому +77

    Adiyogi is literally a Sadhguru-trademarked deity, he invented the whole mythology around him and even had a giant statue built of him.

    • @kumaaraanderson234
      @kumaaraanderson234 Рік тому +18

      Yes, Sadhguru has no direct initiation from any Hindu lineage. Most of what he says is spun from his half-baked research.

    • @sapthadas2594
      @sapthadas2594 Рік тому +3

      2 statues now

    • @zulubeatsprince
      @zulubeatsprince Рік тому +7

      Yea i dont think this video is fair to hindu philosophy which i think is pretty advanced. i as an atheist can say i agree with the hindus like 90% or more.

    • @blazer9547
      @blazer9547 2 місяці тому

      Advanced lmao, hindu apologism😂​@@zulubeatsprince

    • @trrinketlad7940
      @trrinketlad7940 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@blazer9547its still has some continuation since indus valley civilization. Plus vedas being vedas, think i would give it a pass.

  • @George89999
    @George89999 Рік тому +33

    I have no trouble accepting that some people long before Darwin thought that living things changed over time, several different people in different places/cultures had guesses along those lines in history.
    But there's a big difference between just the assertion that living things somehow changed over time and providing evidence of change, a mechanism of change, and making testable predictions based on a scientific theory. Just because a religious figure got some details of observable reality a little bit correct in a *very* general sense (and a lot very wrong) doesn't mean that they were divinely inspired.
    There's a big difference between science and just guessing something that can be sort of vaguely considered (if you ignore everything thing they got very wrong) similar-ish to a scientific conclusion. And all of that ignores modern day religious figures retrofitting religious teachings onto science by changing their original meaning.

    • @PBadasie
      @PBadasie 11 місяців тому

      Before I start, George, nice. Second is that Hinduism books was written by people. At that time there was not scientific tool but speculation, many that is right. But it also states that if anything become outdated, it is not to be used or follow. You have many Hindus who live there lives how it was hundreds of years ago and that is not correct. Sadhguru is teaching that way. Ex. In Christianity you can’t plant different plants in one crop (I was told) but that is one crucial type of farming. In conclusion we should always move forward in life, remembering that but but not dwelling in it.

    • @George89999
      @George89999 11 місяців тому

      @@PBadasie Hello! I agree with you that people should move forward with the truth. But my comments about evolution was not a criticism of Hinduism per se, rather I was pointing out that the argument here (that Hinduism predicted biological evolution as understood by modern science) was flawed and in reality doesn't support Hinduism any more than the discovery of the "Big Bang" supports Christianity (which it doesn't). My criticism was directed at the specific argument being used not against any religion as a whole.

    • @PBadasie
      @PBadasie 11 місяців тому +1

      @@George89999 I understand that. I just wanted to say that Sadhguru does not represent modern teachings.

    • @George89999
      @George89999 11 місяців тому

      @@PBadasie No problem, that was what I figured from the start. My apologies if I accidentally gave you the impression otherwise. In pretty much every religion you have those who are more backwards or extreme versus those who are more accepting on science and/or are more moderate.

    • @PBadasie
      @PBadasie 11 місяців тому +2

      @@George89999 Yes like many people don’t know that Hinduism is actually a way of life and but they just fight over it. You can also be an atheist and a Hindu. There are some who only focus on one aspect. That is wrong.

  • @matthewryan2887
    @matthewryan2887 Рік тому +74

    Really loved the colab and having 2 different views on the same topic. Growing up in a Christian school, it thankfully wasn't forced upon us and we were able to think freely, but in Year 12 we had a class with the Chaplin of the school who taught us about ways to stay sceptical about what we are reading. We did an analysis of Genesis 1 and we found by analysing it, it has the writing style of a poem, repeated phrases, same lengths and other hallmarks of poetry. Just found that really interesting that some people still cannot understand that it is not literal

    • @chrishollandsworth6700
      @chrishollandsworth6700 Рік тому +23

      You were lucky. We were taught to deny evolution, and i missed that whole chunk of biology in high school. Imagine my surprise later to find out about all the evidence of evolution after 20 years of a faith supported by incorrect facts. It was devastating.

    • @matthewryan2887
      @matthewryan2887 Рік тому +10

      @@chrishollandsworth6700 I feel like the school I went to was just Christian to get some parents to put their kids in, it wasn't very hardcore which is nice and we were never taught creationism by anyone

    • @chrishollandsworth6700
      @chrishollandsworth6700 Рік тому +10

      Well thats actually pretty cool. I would have alot more respect for Christian teachers if they were diligent about seperating their personally held beliefs from established fact. I spent 20 years as a Christian, immersed in apologetics and deep scriptural study and completely neglected my interests in physics and biology as a result of my indoctrination. Now I am 40 years old and learning about science like an 18 year old college freshman. Im glad to hear that you had it easier, bro!

    • @johnp1899
      @johnp1899 Рік тому

      I don’t think you grasped the Christian culture . Are you referring to the whole bible being literal or just genesis or do you know ?

    • @MrURBETTA
      @MrURBETTA 11 місяців тому

      ​@@chrishollandsworth6700 what established facts are you talking about?

  • @aniket8350
    @aniket8350 Рік тому +10

    Bruh this collaboration was out of nowhere.
    Two of my favourite debunking channels are coming together.
    This was awesome 👍👍 keep up the good work

  • @richardtucker9385
    @richardtucker9385 Рік тому +62

    Dave, I love that you do these videos, I hate that you have to. Keep fighting the good fight!

    • @brandwas12
      @brandwas12 4 місяці тому

      What good fight... the fight for nihilism?

    • @nicholasfacciola6626
      @nicholasfacciola6626 3 місяці тому +1

      ⁠@@brandwas12it’s not nihilistic to denounce people profiting from spewing pseudoscientific propaganda. That’s a straw man argument.

    • @adityaranjansahoo6261
      @adityaranjansahoo6261 8 днів тому

      ​@@nicholasfacciola6626I think PseudoScience can't be Belated right away to the Oldest Religion in the World....Hinduism along all of its Ancient facts has proven to be the most scientifically accurate Religion based on the information we currently possess...Yes This guy may be profiting from People's beliefs..but it was because of his Research on these texts that taught many People Bout Sanatana

  • @kaziem
    @kaziem Рік тому +36

    YAY MORE PROFFESSOR DAVE REACTS!

  • @herobrine8763og
    @herobrine8763og 5 місяців тому +9

    Please do more of these Indian gurus, my mom has recently fallen for 'scientifically supported' spirituality and continuously watches them non-stop. She started getting up at 3:30 am and also is trying to put her tongue in her nose for some reason

    • @demonicakane2083
      @demonicakane2083 5 місяців тому

      Tongue in her nose wth.... Send her anti videos to neutralize those extremist beliefs

    • @bobbymidha3901
      @bobbymidha3901 Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂. Omg, that makes two of us.

  • @theslashbro4474
    @theslashbro4474 Рік тому +56

    Hey, Dave. If you wanna go for more of these reaction style videos, may you please do it on Subboor Ahmad? He has a degree in Philosophy in Science (no evolutionary psychology or anthropology qualifications) and seems to misrepresent a lot of scientific concepts such as natural selection - he's actually debated against Aron Ra.
    thank you!

    • @osassabi2202
      @osassabi2202 Рік тому +6

      Oh I would so love this. His whole shtick is misrepresenting evolution

    • @Mrfunny663vnb83
      @Mrfunny663vnb83 Рік тому +3

      Wait but subbor Ahmed has a PhD on philosophy of biology. Right? His expertise is on philosophy of science not science or biology.
      He also debated Skydivephil, James Fodor, An atheist professor (can't remember his name ) on Evolution

    • @theslashbro4474
      @theslashbro4474 Рік тому +3

      @@Mrfunny663vnb83 Oh sorry! I was actually studying biological psychology for school whilst writing that! I mixed them up... sorry! You're totally right he does have a philosophy in science. My bad, I fixed it.

    • @Mrfunny663vnb83
      @Mrfunny663vnb83 Рік тому +1

      @@theslashbro4474 No problem.
      Last time i checked his works i think he also said he would publish a book on Evolution soon something like this.

    • @theslashbro4474
      @theslashbro4474 Рік тому +1

      @@Mrfunny663vnb83 If he does release it, I truly hope Dave covers it

  • @yashsaxena6416
    @yashsaxena6416 Рік тому +22

    Wow amazing. Collab of two of my favourite youtubers. Please do more Professor.

  • @vidarlystadjohansen9829
    @vidarlystadjohansen9829 Рік тому +7

    just pushing the algorithm, great job as always

  • @theAi_journey
    @theAi_journey Рік тому +53

    If you see the evolution of sadguru last 25 years, he really perfected his art of selling BULLSHIT. That's a real talent 👏

    • @therealsmalk
      @therealsmalk Рік тому

      ​@@SUNOMAJEDAARGAANE "British civilised savage Indians" 💀

    • @roypatton1707
      @roypatton1707 Рік тому +3

      So, he's a poopsmith

    • @San_Vito
      @San_Vito Рік тому

      @@roypatton1707 or a crapmancer.

    • @ex.hindu.now.atheist
      @ex.hindu.now.atheist Рік тому

      @Ashoka
      "If you see the evolution of sadguru [...] a real talent"
      =======================================
      Why do your refer to him by his self-bestowed honorific 'sad(h)guru'?
      He was, and is (and perhaps will always be) JAGGI-BOI.

  • @user-vn3rk7wf7y
    @user-vn3rk7wf7y Рік тому +63

    Let us not forget, Sadhuru obtained his omniscience and amphibian like metamorphosis by sitting incredibly still for approximately 2 weeks.

  • @prodigyy505
    @prodigyy505 Рік тому +24

    Science is Dope in the video?? Thats astonishing

    • @gradientO
      @gradientO Рік тому +5

      He uploaded a short 15 min of this Collab to this channel

  • @malchir4036
    @malchir4036 Рік тому +26

    26:51 Biblical Inerrancy doctrine is not that the Bible is true word for word, that's Scriptural (hard) Literalism. Biblical inerrancy means that the Bible, whether they mean the one they worship or the supposed original texts, cannot be false.
    So if the Bible is contradicted by something, either the interpretation of the verse is wrong, the translation is wrong, or the observations are mistaken, the source was mistaken(if you have a verse that goes "Yonah said", the only thing that's necessarily true is that Yonah said it)... But at no cost can the Bible be regarded as wrong, that dogma is always true by fiat of it being dogma.
    Hard Literalists don't have that much wiggle room in their apologetics.

  • @wolframsigma6
    @wolframsigma6 Рік тому +13

    10:55 The best part about these avatars is that somehow humans already exist on Earth and live in a society, there is even an Evil Ruler/Demon King in most cases, and Lord Vishnu somehow has to take these avatars of primitive lifeforms to save humans from that Demon. The only thing that SEEMS to be scientific about the Dashavatar legend is the fact of mere coincidence of the first 3 avatars having a similar progression in correct chronological order. (although as Prof. Dave mentioned, missing a LOT of organisms). Other than that, The Fish Avatar ( Matsya) carries ALL lifeforms including Humans on its back by becoming huge, The Turtle (Kurma) lifts a mountain on its back to help gods churn the lake of immortality using a giant snake and The Wild Boar (Varaha) retrieved Planet Earth from some Deep Sea "outside" of Earth by literally carrying EARTH on his Nose. These legends are in no way close to Science, let alone Darwin's Theory of Evolution(which in itself has now been unified with Mendel's work on genetics to be called Modern synthetic theory of evolution, iirc)

  • @omega-xk4gj
    @omega-xk4gj Рік тому +12

    The Principal of My School is a Massive Fan of Sadhguru. So much so that she made me and my partner watch a video of him before we had a State level Competition to "increase" our confidence.
    As an Atheist it literally had a negative impact on my performance for all things considered

  • @nikhildivakar3918
    @nikhildivakar3918 Рік тому +9

    Two of my favourite youtubers! Looking forward to more of these :)

  • @SaintD382
    @SaintD382 Рік тому +9

    Man, I love Pranav's accent so much. This is one of my favorite accents, it's just so much fun to listen to.

  • @Roonlovesfish3874
    @Roonlovesfish3874 Рік тому +52

    Thank you so much for this
    Much love from an Indian Atheist ❤❤

  • @michaelextreme6357
    @michaelextreme6357 Рік тому +1

    Watching this on Easter day, good content as always mate

  • @ex.hindu.now.atheist
    @ex.hindu.now.atheist Рік тому +5

    BUT the story of the 10 avataras of Vishnu show that human beings (in the form that we exist now) were already in existence during each and every one of the avataras.
    So, HOW does this story match with the theory of evolution by natural selection ?

  • @laflemme7247
    @laflemme7247 Рік тому +13

    We need more science communicators like you. Too many people are ignorant about scientific topics that the scientific method is etched so deeply into to such an extent that they blatantly mischaracterize the science behind it. What you do is so much more necessary than some people realize, and apart from this contribution to humanity, you are also a great professor and musician (Love the Simulated Sun project and you are a *phenomenal* pianist!).
    This is one of the activities in my free time that bring me the most faith in the fact that humanity still has a chance. You are an inspiration as a figure to me.
    Thank you, Professor Dave!

  • @navneetkaushik2482
    @navneetkaushik2482 Рік тому +29

    Really happy that you did a collab with Science is dope , you and him are two of my fav. youtubers.

  • @neilkirkley1500
    @neilkirkley1500 Рік тому +3

    Is it just me or did this end a little abruptly? Awesome video, would love to see more of these.

  • @stefanjanik3560
    @stefanjanik3560 Рік тому +12

    Can you please do a video on the Indian Rationalist Association, they are real heroes debunking all the guru nonsense.

  • @Kammerliteratur
    @Kammerliteratur Рік тому +11

    Tbh, I'd prefer Christian apologetics to accept Evolution like this sad guru guy by overinterpreting the creation myths in the bible in a way that they can pretend that whoever wrote genesis "knew" about evolution.

  • @JokerDoom
    @JokerDoom Рік тому +6

    Turtles are not amphibians. Amphibia is a taxonomic distinction, with the primary differences between them and reptiles being:
    [1] Amphibians have a larval stage where they have gills, where reptiles are born with lungs and no gills
    [2] Smooth, wet skin as opposed to dry scales
    [3] Amphibians almost always have to both mate and lay their eggs in water, where reptiles lay eggs on land
    [4] There is only a single species of amphibian that has claws (the aptly named clawed frog)
    Most amphibians are either frogs/toads or salamanders/newts. So if it's not one of those, it's almost certainly a reptile. Hope that helps.

  • @terryfiaty8383
    @terryfiaty8383 Рік тому +6

    Happy for you @Science is Dope

  • @celestialsatheist1535
    @celestialsatheist1535 Рік тому +55

    Two of my favourite UA-camrs collaborating. This is a dream that I didn't even know I had

  • @101stub
    @101stub Рік тому +3

    Good collaboration Professor Dave. Keep up the good work!

  • @masikergmg
    @masikergmg 7 місяців тому

    Wait this is the best collab ever ive been watching both of your channels for quite a while!!!!!!! Please make more!!!!!

  • @andrewsmith2880
    @andrewsmith2880 Рік тому +16

    I used to teach yoga. I've met a few of Sadhguru's "followers" (or at least people who had attended his Inner Engineering seminars) and they all had this starry-eyed, cult-like admiration for him. They would ask me if I had heard of him, what I thought of him etc. I was curious, so I looked into attending one of his seminars. I've been to plenty of yoga retreats, lessons, conventions, seminars etc. over the years and the $500 price tag for an introductory "lesson" jumped out at me as a red flag. Even "famous" gurus that I've studied under don't charge anywhere near that much just to attend a lesson (most of them are free or ask for a small donation). I've listened to a few of his videos and I would classify what he says as "feel good bullshit." His meditation techniques are rudimentary at best and below what even an initiate would learn. I certainly wouldn't pay any money to hear him speak. He's not even an expert in the field he's trying to scam people with, so I doubt he knows anything about actual science.

    • @kamion53
      @kamion53 Рік тому +1

      I was already wondering what financed the huge steel statues he had build, but the $500,- price tag explains a lot.
      the Adyogi statue was actually the only entree that turned up in Wikipedia when I seach for more info on Adiyogi, not being very keen on their own sites.

    • @sarcastic3833
      @sarcastic3833 7 місяців тому

      😂😂😂

  • @raymondwhatley9954
    @raymondwhatley9954 Рік тому +4

    at the 12:40ish mark there's a need for some clarification. There is a distinction between the words "Amphibious" which is an adjective describing something that can traverse land and water and goes between the two (some man made vehicles are even described this way) and so tortoises could be described in this way. Then there is the word "Amphibian" which is a noun and refers to a taxonomic grouping of related animals which includes frogs and salamanders. Many tortoises/turtles are amphibious, but they are not amphibians.

  • @pratikshetty6248
    @pratikshetty6248 Рік тому +8

    Woah science is dope is here.. Congratulations

  • @princequestly2218
    @princequestly2218 Рік тому +2

    Another great video Dave. Love these.

  • @johncoops6897
    @johncoops6897 Рік тому +1

    If ever there was a video that needs translation captions, this is it. The Auto Generated English is certainly not perfect, but at least allows the general discussion to be followed.

  • @ErenJaeger-kx7wn
    @ErenJaeger-kx7wn Рік тому +14

    A University student of our country bangladesh. Committed suicide by getting inspired from his book "Death"

    • @ErenJaeger-kx7wn
      @ErenJaeger-kx7wn Рік тому +4

      @Robert clive the founder of India yes you can google it. He was a student of Jahangirnagar University. physics Department student

    • @solacedagony1234
      @solacedagony1234 Рік тому +2

      Did this comment have a point?

    • @studypurposeonly69
      @studypurposeonly69 Рік тому +10

      That's so fucked up. What is more disturbing is that he was a physics graduate but has still fallen for pseudoscience

    • @raitaluna9142
      @raitaluna9142 Рік тому +1

      ​​@@ErenJaeger-kx7wn u know what's funny people are making it like sadhguru is a black magician.. UA-cam channel like secret revealed are degrading this incident worse by making stupid claims of black magic.. According to him meditation = black magic.. 😂😂😂

    • @youtubeaccount2429
      @youtubeaccount2429 Рік тому

      @Robert clive the founder of India just like Robert Clive. How the piggie squealed 😊

  • @dusty3913
    @dusty3913 Рік тому +8

    First fish: Sushi. You ever eat sushi? See? First fish…sushi.
    Second animal: Turtle…very old, these creatures.
    Third animal: Boar. You have boars here? Very physical. See?
    OMG-this is how one does science the easy way. Lol

  • @GetMoGaming
    @GetMoGaming Рік тому +2

    Very enjoyable, but @ScienceIsDope - you need a levelling compressor on your mic feed.🖖

  • @s.muller3786
    @s.muller3786 5 днів тому

    Only found this channel recently, amazing video! Very fun to watch! :)

  • @DarkMatterVisible
    @DarkMatterVisible Рік тому +10

    *gasp* I knew turtles were reptiles and Dave didn’t.
    I WILL let this go to my head.

    • @thechosenone5644
      @thechosenone5644 Рік тому +1

      I’m wondering if there was some miscommunication going on in that part of the video. I think the Indian guy meant to say amphibious in the sense that some turtles can transition between land/water and not in the sense of being an amphibian, which could have tripped up both of them.

  • @dendaGulliLapoch
    @dendaGulliLapoch Рік тому +4

    Nice to know of another channel that I can watch for science debunk jargon and knowledge centric BASED content

    • @MrDmadness
      @MrDmadness Рік тому

      I agree, but respectfully remind you ( and myself ) to not stay in an echo chamber. Even when that chamber IS logic, I still find I'm better built by spending a bit of time hearing ridiculous ideas of people unknowing that science isn't a "thing", it's not like when people say "god" it's a process that involves everybody.
      Basically I'm saying that explaining simple things to stupid people fires those same neurons in you that you did when you first learned them :)

    • @uttamraj3786
      @uttamraj3786 Рік тому +5

      @@MrDmadness Being in an echochamber for a rationalist is almost impossible at least in India.

    • @justsomerandomguy6719
      @justsomerandomguy6719 8 місяців тому

      ​@@uttamraj3786I definitely agree with that. The amount of pseudo science there is in India is mind boggling.

  • @pranilpanda6789
    @pranilpanda6789 Рік тому +3

    This collab is unexpected but dope!

  • @hulkernaut
    @hulkernaut Рік тому +9

    12:08 Turtles are definitely reptiles. Although they can spend MOST of their lives in water, they never have a stage of their lives after hatching (from their land eggs) where they breathe through gills, like amphibians.

    • @mugflub
      @mugflub Місяць тому

      Yeah, that was a big miss on Dave's part. I suppose we all have blind spots and knowledge gaps.

  • @Fknmeet
    @Fknmeet Рік тому +22

    As a science is dope and professor Dave fan i am so happy

  • @fernlovebond
    @fernlovebond Рік тому +7

    Damn, I love it when someone is totally convinced of their own little mythology that they just assume everyone is following along with their crazy train of thought. "Nonsense nonsense, nonsense, of course, you see?" *gestures/expression of 'obviously'* All that weird talk about eating things and they become a man or woman, and we're all going "uh, anyone else know WTF he's talking about?" but the person making insane jibberish is completely oblivious. If you tell them "that's not making any sense" they are either baffled or offended and try to tell you that you're just not getting it.

  • @seth3438
    @seth3438 Рік тому +4

    An aesthetically appealing person in an aesthetically appealing setting calm and confidently stringing laughably errorneous and shallow statements together is likely to appeal to all those looking for an emotional 'home' that their own fairy tale can no longer provide.

  • @ayanvaidya2727
    @ayanvaidya2727 Рік тому +1

    A few months i go offline and this collaboration happned???? 🤯🤯🤯

  • @miker953
    @miker953 Рік тому +7

    I'm not eating anymore watermelon just to be certain I won't turn into a cow.

  • @yuvrajganguly
    @yuvrajganguly Рік тому +4

    Now, letting everything else slide, the question I have is; this supposed "Adiyogi" existed more than 12000 years before Buddha, then how the hell did he knew about Buddha???

  • @sourmakoshark7473
    @sourmakoshark7473 Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for all of your pharmacology videos and organic chemistry videos professor Dave, I found your channel through your Kent hovind debate as I was starting to become an atheist and i have loved every one of your videos since, your debunks provide the entertainment I need, while your pharmacology and o chem videos have helped me as a pharmacy student!

  • @SquatchRN
    @SquatchRN Рік тому +11

    When I see a Prof Dave debunk or reaction video I watch! Thanks for the content!

  • @vishwakumar2864
    @vishwakumar2864 Рік тому +8

    The story of Matsya avatar (Fish form) DOES NOT talk about life beginning in water. It is just a similar flood story just like noah's ark.
    There are lot of humans and various animals in that same story.

    • @vishwakumar2864
      @vishwakumar2864 Рік тому

      This is just a hindu version of cooking up and reintepreting the old stories to show off fake supremacy of their superstitions over scienctific method.
      "Look our daddies used to just close our eyes and magically get to know all things, this is why superstitions peddled in our culture are great 😏".
      Apparently blindly believing in these charalatans is supposed to be superior to making observations, hypotheses, predictions, experiments and looking for empirical evidence.

    • @joshuamlnarik5942
      @joshuamlnarik5942 Рік тому +1

      Doesn't make it any less wrong. 🎉

    • @San_Vito
      @San_Vito Рік тому

      @@joshuamlnarik5942 But does it make ir more wrong?

    • @joshuamlnarik5942
      @joshuamlnarik5942 Рік тому

      Yes, yes it actually does.

    • @NileshKumar-nr2vj
      @NileshKumar-nr2vj Рік тому

      Yeah but Sadguru represents it like that

  • @Ugly_German_Truths
    @Ugly_German_Truths Рік тому +3

    "Every time there is evil on the earth?"
    There was ever a time without "evil"?

  • @bobmarley9905
    @bobmarley9905 Рік тому

    crossover i never imagined happening!

  • @TankEngine75
    @TankEngine75 Рік тому +4

    I still remember that time when I got some Sadhguru Videos on my recommendation, I'm not even an Indian nor Hindu so I was so confused why I got those videos on my recommendation, didn't know he's a Hindu extremist

  • @thedebapriyakar
    @thedebapriyakar Рік тому +18

    HOLY SHIT THIS IS FREAKIN ' AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @melm4251
    @melm4251 Рік тому +8

    i'm pretty sure the most physical animal is some kind of half pig, half bear, half man creature

    • @thomasneal9291
      @thomasneal9291 Рік тому

      ala Al Gore, ala South Park.

    • @farisakhtar4824
      @farisakhtar4824 Рік тому

      A being made of three halves? That's more than one being.

    • @San_Vito
      @San_Vito Рік тому

      @@farisakhtar4824 It's a South Park reference...

    • @farisakhtar4824
      @farisakhtar4824 Рік тому

      @@San_Vito what episode is that from? I thought I've already seen all of South Park.

  • @Eldd.
    @Eldd. Рік тому

    Hey prof!
    Did you hear about the guy who copyrighted the phrase:
    "The truth about cancer"
    I believe the guy's name was Ty M. Bollinger.

  • @leo_pi
    @leo_pi Рік тому +75

    I am Indian and have been brainwashed by Sadhguru. I am only 10 yrs old, but highly skeptical about mystics like Sadhguru. I have been Hindu for my entire life but have turned atheist in the last year. I am the only atheist out of 2000 people in my school. For a long time, my family has been telling me that I am too young to understand how religion is true. My parents believe in Astrology, I absolutely hate it.
    Thank you so much for debunking charlatans like Sadhguru. Keep going!
    Edit: how the hell am I getting so many likes and comments in such little time?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?

    • @Disturbed0neGaming
      @Disturbed0neGaming Рік тому +14

      Keep thinking for yourself but also remember that you have to live with your parents for quite a while yet until you're an adult, so be careful and don't put yourself in too much danger.
      If you're really only 10 years old, then you're on the right track, keep being skeptical of everything, it's the only rational way to live life.
      Be safe.

    • @leo_pi
      @leo_pi Рік тому +9

      @@Disturbed0neGaming My parents aren't really violent or abusive, most of the time we just ignore our opinions and make jokes about my atheism sometimes.

    • @Disturbed0neGaming
      @Disturbed0neGaming Рік тому +9

      @@leo_pi That's good to hear.
      Maybe in time you can get them to study and learn the science of the real world and leave the magic and myths behind?
      It's never wrong to question anything, ever. Anyone who tells you different is hiding something and shouldn't be trusted.
      Good luck to you in your future studies!

    • @leo_pi
      @leo_pi Рік тому +7

      @@Disturbed0neGaming Thanks! My mother is actually a scientist at a well regarded hospital, and she isn't that in on this stuff.

    • @SUNOMAJEDAARGAANE
      @SUNOMAJEDAARGAANE Рік тому +2

      Do you live in India?

  • @MagnumSpydyrIN
    @MagnumSpydyrIN Рік тому +23

    finally! Dave, please disprove this person. I'm from India and so many of my educated friends revere this guy like he's a messiah, and anytime I disagree with him, they defend him. When people support him, all rationality goes out the window. It perplexes me how people allow their bias to distort their judgement. This person has scammed millions of people and profited lavishly from their ignorance. This individual contradicts the basic notion of a sadhu.

  • @theweatherdog1816
    @theweatherdog1816 Рік тому +6

    12:23 Turtles are reptiles, Dave. Reptiles, Dave! Reptiles! REPTILES!

  • @ivana4113
    @ivana4113 Рік тому +2

    Ty for speaking so nice english for us non english speakers

  • @saifitanvirahmed8604
    @saifitanvirahmed8604 Рік тому +8

    always good to see two of my favourite youtuber together debunking some igorant fools 😍

    • @YouMeverse
      @YouMeverse Рік тому +3

      Atleast he doesn't claim himself godmen/profit ,,he not married to 6 yr old baby.

    • @2604maverick
      @2604maverick 7 місяців тому

      @@YouMeverse no idiot would claim himself as idiot :D so ofcourse he doesnt claim himself as godmen...and he did not kill his wife as well...she left her body like all normal people do :D

  • @gearwhizz
    @gearwhizz Рік тому +3

    12:30 is a big whoopsy by Dave. Turtles are amniotes the next step on the evolutionary path towards mammals and reptiles. Any classification that includes them with amphibians would also include all living mammals, reptiles and birds.

  • @blascantu7221
    @blascantu7221 Рік тому +2

    I didn't know about Bhaisab Scienceisdope until now, dhanyavad ji (thanks sir)!!I will subscribe to his channel now.

  • @Lobster_Lars
    @Lobster_Lars Рік тому +1

    Good call bringing in a guy who can clear up some things about the culture and religions of India

  • @kimchikoalaa714
    @kimchikoalaa714 Рік тому +4

    i've been waiting man! i'm so sick of this new spirituality/manifestation/yoga/life coaching/meditation type of pseudo-cult/religion gaining traction in my country

    • @mtk3755
      @mtk3755 Рік тому

      Well it's not wrong that's probably the best thing but this cult has make a business and joke out of it.

  • @Onio_Saiyan
    @Onio_Saiyan Рік тому +11

    ScienceIsDope is a great channel.

  • @RyanKeane9
    @RyanKeane9 Рік тому +1

    I would like to see a Science is dope/Rationality rules crossover

  • @ilonachan
    @ilonachan Рік тому

    the "it was revealed to me in a -dream- meditation" thing is like a worse version of "because my holy book said so": at least I can GET and READ that holy book to debunk it

  • @Nactastic
    @Nactastic Рік тому +3

    Hey Dave, really enjoying this reaction format. It makes things feel more informal while still debunking these frauds out here, keep it up Dave!

  • @nemock
    @nemock Рік тому +38

    This is a great reaction video. I have such a limited understanding of any Hindu perspectives so this was great way to get a feel for some of that thinking.

    • @zulubeatsprince
      @zulubeatsprince Рік тому +3

      This video is not exactly a fair representation of hindu thought imho. They come the closest to secular thought if you really understand the essence of the teachings from the vedas.. people will be people so we see all the gurus pontificating.

    • @WoolandFlax
      @WoolandFlax Рік тому

      Would make more sense to hear a Hindu persons thoughts that believes it, rather than someone that is debunking it.

  • @takeiteaasy1954
    @takeiteaasy1954 Рік тому +2

    Good video! 👍 what do I tell my buddy who says evolution is God, or creation?

  • @lblizzardblizzard776
    @lblizzardblizzard776 Рік тому

    Congrats on the CFI write up. Well done!🎉🎉🎉👏👏👏👏

  • @davibro
    @davibro Рік тому +9

    Great video! Just one correction, Frank Turek is an Old Earth Creationist.

    • @captivedesk3168
      @captivedesk3168 Рік тому +4

      Citation? Frank is wishy washy when it comes to not rejecting YEC because its part of his audience

    • @nagranoth_
      @nagranoth_ Рік тому +3

      More like he avoids the issue

  • @thecritiquer9407
    @thecritiquer9407 Рік тому +2

    really as an Indian I'm very grateful.

  • @TheseNuts2
    @TheseNuts2 Рік тому +2

    Great video.

  • @aarondeimund6898
    @aarondeimund6898 Рік тому

    Thanks for all you do!

  • @nemdenemam9753
    @nemdenemam9753 Рік тому +3

    Hi Professor Dave! Thanks for the videos, I can't wait for the debate. I have a question about 'micro/macro' evolution. Is there a demonstrated example for animals where mutation has created offsprings that were able to produce fertile offsprings among each other but not with their parent's group? I mean post zygotic reproductive isolation because if I understand that is a generally accepted 'final' barrier between species. The 'highest' level of isolation I can find on google is the sea urchin with gametic isolation, although it's unclear for me if it's a chemical (or some kind of other 'after interaction') kind of deal or something that makes it likely that any interaction begins at all. Also the micro/macroevolution usage seems to be present in scientific journals (eg: Linking micro and macroevolution in the presence of migration)

    • @nio804
      @nio804 Рік тому +7

      I don't think it works like that. Speciation happens to populations, not individuals. There will never be a single mutation that differentiates two species.
      Ring species demonstrate how it works pretty well, in my opinion.

    • @wertelka_1
      @wertelka_1 Рік тому +1

      The final barrier occurs when that group of offspring isolates from the parent group (migrates elsewhere, for example) and then evolves independently. Then, their far descendants will be unable to reproduce with the original parents. Then, they become a new species.

    • @nemdenemam9753
      @nemdenemam9753 Рік тому

      @@wertelka_1 so which two species do you think would be the best demonstration to show that they come from the same lineage and they produce fertile offsprings among themselves but they cannot produce fertile offsprings with their predecessor or 'brother' species? And what would be the demonstration that they indeed started out from the same species?

    • @nemdenemam9753
      @nemdenemam9753 Рік тому

      @@nio804 ring species was the thing that sparked my interest as well. However reading about actual examples, those furthest apart can still interbreed, they just rarely do it (as far as I understand it is considered to be behavioural isolation). For example about the ensatina salamander example you can see this article on Berkeley's site. Search: 'Berkeley tom devitt Love in the hybrid zone'. The same can be said about the Greenish warbler ('Genomic divergence in a ring species complex', pubmed). Or read Jerry Coyne's 'There are no ring species' article on his site. Do you know of another ring species which has offspring 'species' that cannot produce fertile offsprings? Or maybe new results that overwrite these?

    • @wertelka_1
      @wertelka_1 Рік тому

      @@nemdenemam9753 humans and chimpanzees are pretty closely related, and that is demonstrated by a significant overlap in their genetic code (>90% similarity) as well as by fossil records. It is known that they came from the same species due to the same fossil record.
      Humans can't produce viable offspring with chimps, that has been proven experimentally.
      By the way, thanks for helping me with preparation for my biology exam)

  • @chandrajitkarmakar2333
    @chandrajitkarmakar2333 Рік тому +5

    This collab was unexpected.
    But anyways, people from all over the world need to speak out against pseudoscientific stuff which is literally an insult to science.

  • @ShubhamKumar-sj6dp
    @ShubhamKumar-sj6dp Рік тому +1

    thank you for this

  • @prairiehorse6168
    @prairiehorse6168 Рік тому +1

    Oh my God. You have chosen violence!! Pranav is great. Glad you guys collaborated.

  • @donchristie420
    @donchristie420 Рік тому +21

    I love how this is evolving

  • @sriprakhyapochiraju9498
    @sriprakhyapochiraju9498 Рік тому +5

    OKAY I LOVE THIS! I cannot believe you guys collaborated!! You guys should make more content together!

  • @highlight1104
    @highlight1104 Рік тому

    Do you have any videos explaining the Milankovitch cycles and climate change? I see that many climate change deniers talk about the Milankovitch cycles all the time.

  • @jedoesstuff9086
    @jedoesstuff9086 Рік тому

    Have you heard of peter rodgers? He apparently is a doctor but he has youtube videos talking about how fluoride damages the brain and even goes so far to say that water fluoridation makes him weary of swimming

  • @vivekishere
    @vivekishere Рік тому +4

    12:12 both turtles (chelons) and tortoise (tetsudos) are both reptiles

  • @shivamchouhan5077
    @shivamchouhan5077 Рік тому +11

    Wow you are collaborating with science is dope! That's amazing ❤️