100% of those that die have consumed something containing water within the last month, 100% of those that die were in the same star system where water was at.
Lmao remember when Gwynneth Paltrow said she drank alkaline water with a spritz of lemon, the acidity of which would dealkalize the water even before your stomach acids would
Oye. My former mother-in-law used a "too much water can kill you!" article as an excuse to drink no water whatsoever. To make it worse, she had two cups of coffee and two glasses of wine per day. Needless to say, her health suffered miserably.
Can't believe professor dave really trying to defend Dihydrogen Monoxide. Doesn't he know it causes suffocation and accelerates rust? This video should have a disclaimer on it 🙄
@@ncapone87 Yeah but alcohol can lead to brain damage, dependency, problems with your liver and pancreas, and give you high blood pressure. Just to name a few
I was with my niece, and we were getting a pitch from some water salesman guy saying their water was perfectly ph balanced with the right minerals for blah blah i don't really remember, and he gave us a couple bottles as free samples. Later in the car, I took a drink and remarked "Wow! This is so much wetter than normal water!" The water then malfunctioned for my niece as it started coming out her nose.
Fluoride treatment isn't only putting fluoride in water, in some places, where the naturally occurring fluoride levels are high, it is removed from water until the levels are down to the one part per million that is desired.
4:20: The very same thing happened when 5G was announced; people started reporting all kinds of ailments even before it was switched on in that specific location.
@@lacanian1500 Looking into it the story deeper it turns out to be older and concerned an earlier generation phone tower in Spain that hadn't been switched on yet.
@@appletile2887 Yes most people can't tell the difference. That's why leftard twats claim to be socialist and then say that Hitler is far right, when Hitler was in fact a hardline socialist.
@@AverageAlien Stop making an example of your own ignorance. Germany saw one of the largest spats of privatization in its history under Hitler. It's like saying Stalin was far-right because he hated jews, makes no sense. Either way, each side has some valid grievances and nobody should take left nor right as gospel.
you are not a living undead, that is an oxymoron, you could be an unliving undead though that would be redundant. think the pc term is differently abled living impaired or DALI. ;)
To be fair, tap water can be pretty bad depending on where you are. In some places in the US, it's undrinkable due to pollution (Flint, MI is a great example, where it's contaminated with enough heavy metals to make it poisonous). In other places it just tastes bad. So avoiding tap water in some places is valid. But yeah, that doesn't excuse pseudoscience and snake oil.
When I travelled to the US, I even noticed that the tap water _smells_ bad... I never noticed that tap water can even _have_ a smell, but let's just say that I'm even more glad about the absurdly high standards of tap water in Germany.
@@midnight8341 I'm thinking that's probably a pipe issue. A lot of people have them and likely don't even know and can't really get them changed because they'd just cost too much. Could also be cities not knowing or caring. Then again not all water treatment plants are equal and once again some places just don't care.
@@midnight8341 Oft liegt es an den Rohren im Haus. In alten deutschen Häusern sollte man es auch of meiden Leitungswasser zu trinken. Am besten vorher überprüfen lassen. Und wenn man mal länger nicht daheim war, immer erst mal das Wasser für 10 Minuten oder länger laufen lassen. Denn in stehendem Wasser können sich Keime vermehren.
Civil water guy here, good stuff Prof Dave. We largely fluoridate where I live in Canada, but not all. I got flurorisis as a kid because they used to used so much of it where I grew up, gave me mottled baby teeth.
Just remember that fluoride travels through whole body to get to teeth and bone via blood. It affects you in more than just sunshine and good ways. It is a known neurotoxin and no amount of "debunking" will work because science can't contradict itself like that. We also never voted for fluoride in our water, and largely, we didn't even get a heads up. Is that a trustworthy way of doing things in a democracy?
This is all BS -- my uncle was killed by fluoride. After brushing his teeth in the morning he drove to work and was hit by a truck carrying fluoridated water. He never knew what hit him.
scientists in 1920: finally this will make sure no one gets cavities scientists in 2020: guys the earth is not flat how many times do i have to tell you Huh it seems that my comment has turned into a mini warzone Well come on in folks Holy shit this shit is escalating
@@andregon4366 Obviously, flouride in water is responsible for reducing cavities. It couldn't be improved oral hygiene practices, improved nutrition, and even improved prenatal care. 🙄
The situation is not nearly as bleak as people make it sound. Here in Arizona we have eliminated DHMO entirely from many of our streams, in spite of occasional natural recontaminations.
I’m looking forward to more deep dives from you into specific topics like this. Flat earth has been flattened, but pseudoscience and anti-science are more prevalent than ever.
@@flagmichael Bad example because the Salvation Army has actually killed people (turning away trans women from shelters leaving them to die in the cold) not to mention funding extremist anti LGBT policies in Africa which include imprisonment and the death penalty.
@@flagmichael The Salvation army has rehabilitation centers across the country which operate as sweatshops. They use underprivileged suffragettes to staff their clothing donation stores for NO INCOME, NO MONEY, while all of the products they recieve are free. Free profit and free labor, religious indoctrination, all under the guise of rehabilitating unfortunate individuals????? Not to mention the style of rehab gives them tax credits on almost everything they spend on the "beneficiary's". I've worked in one of these ARC rehab programs before many years ago, and all I saw were unfortunate souls blind to the fact that they are being used for labor, while the programs and curriculum they would be a part of had zero use at all, and half of it was fundamentally religious in nature, so no real benefit came to any of these poor people. You people need to unstick yourself from your mental enslavement and realize what is going on. Conspiracy is everywhere. Sitting here and making a game out of combating individuals that inquire about the nature of the world around us is not a bad thing at all, in fact it is very valuable. (especially since our systems of checks and balance is infantile and mischievous in nature, always siding with the corporations).
14:00 The dose makes the poison is one of my favourite lines. As someone who uses cannabis medically, and hates people who think it is a panacea that can do no harm, I like to educate people that you can theoretically overdose on weed, you would just need to smoke about 2000 joints in a minute. At that point, they usually say "see, its harmless" and then I hit them with the following fact. It would take twice as many cigarettes to overdose on nicotine, but if you injected the nicotine from just 1 pack of cigarettes directly into your vein, you would be dead. In addition to dose, the method and duration of delivery is also very important.
@@phillipsmusic3871 Oh OK I missed the context thx. That probably why it seemed unrelated XD Case closed. Not touching that topic with a barge pole. We have to same enemy so I ain't here to impede or join you guys. Long live the people
Whoa, whoa, whoa there, Mr. Science guy, but a Yoga instructor on UA-cam specifically told me that water was flat. Loving your new content and your History of Drugs series was fantastic.
A Yoga Instructor! Woah, I better rethink some things, I dunno who to believe now. I better go leave a comment on a video about the power of crystals to ask what they think.
My dad is a professional yoga instructor and he tells me horror stories every day about the ridiculous alternative health bullshit that some of his students talk about in class.
@@jackburton7062 I understand what you're saying. In places where potable water is hard to find or produce or in emergencies, bottled water is necessary. I've worked in camps many times but they rarely ever used bottled water, with the majority of the water being tanker trucked in at a tenth of the cost of bottles. My point is aimed more at the average person who buys bottled water thinking it is better than what comes out of the tap when it's virtually the same thing.
It is simple: Marketing. There is too much money to be made out of fools. I do see a use of bottled water, when I am on vacation, driving, and want to drink water, I might buy some, and then just refill it. I properly buy it for the bottle. There is another use of bottled water, not all, but many: it is sterilized, so it can last for years. good in case of emergency. But not for regular use, not for your wallet or the planet.
@@ikocheratcr Marketing.. I've said that if they could figure out a way to sell you a breath of air they'd try. I can see the need for bottled water in emergencies or temporarily if potable water isn't readily available. I would not trust bottled water in long term storage (years) though. A clear container isn't the best thing for that and the plastics used will break down over time and quicker in UV light, not the best. Most tap water is chlorinated so there is no worry of it going "bad" unless whatever it is stored in wasn't disinfected and sealed properly. I've had my emergency supply of water last for years before being refreshed without a hint of a problem. just sayin'
In some locations the tap water is seriously unpalatable. I was once one of about 20 people in a focus group, and it turned out the subject was tap water. The upshot was to determine the perceived impact of known trichloroethylene plumes in the ground around the Phoenix metro area. We were asked (among other things) where we got out drinking water. Most bought it 5 gallons at a time from the coin-op dispensers around town; others had water treatment systems at home. I was the only one in the group who drank the iron-rich tap water. My daughter lives in southwest Albuquerque. The tap water has so much manganese in it that a glass of water left overnight has a pink film on the bottom.
Why? Is removing chemicals, toxins and other additives from our food, air & water really all that bad of an idea? If it's all just one big grand conspiracy theory, what do you stand to lose? If it's all just BS then it looks like you'll have everything just as it is now with no change. What the hell are you dreading?
@@TheAgentAaronbecause as professor Dave would surely tell you, RFK Jr is a pseudo scientific hack, yes there are harmful Adatives in our food, the problem is RFK doesn't use reputable sources, if any to come to his conclusions. Instead of citing multiple reputable research papers, he just boldly asserts medical claims as fact. I want to follow the science and remove proven carcinogens and high fructose corn syrup from our food to improve general health, RFK would say something causes autism cause he saw it on Twitter so it must be true. Also removing "chemicals"...? Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound " oh no the chemicals! " news flash, everything is a chemical lmao, your very eyes reading this are made of chemicals, saying it's a good idea to "remove chemicals" means literally nothing. Also "additives" is equally as vague, salt could be considered both a chemical, and an additive, as well as being toxic in high quantities, does that mean we should ban salt? No, of course not, you're just being vague and conspiratorial and using spooky language that doesn't mean anything. Also "if it's all just BS then it looks like you'll have everything just as it is now with no change" is profoundly stupid, I'm baffled you'd even say that, if it's all BS then RFK could be making medical and dietary changes that could negatively impact the lives of millions. You're a deeply unscientificly minded person with lacking critical thinking skills.
“I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.” - Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper (Doctor Strangelove or How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love The Bomb)
Can you guys imagine living in a world without an objective and empiric method to find answers to questions so you can be as sure as possible about what’s the truth on a topic? We have a cool developed and trustworthy scientific method which gives reliable answers and yet the amounts of fakes, conspiracies, and pseudo stuff is off the charts. Imagine a world without a way to be sure of things.
I know this is an older video, but I just want to say thank you Professor Dave, for covering this topic. A decade or so ago, during a point in my life that I was vulnerable to conspiratorial indoctrination, I watched an anti-water fluoridation "documentary" that at the time I thought had some compelling points. Since then I've learned to better spot nonsense and pseudoscience, and I've often assumed that all of those "compelling points" were probably half-truths, misrepresentations, or outright lies. This has been in the back of my mind for quite some time, though I was not confident that I had the subject matter expertise to dig into the research and determine what the truth was. Your handling of this subject refuted all of the pieces of "evidence" that I can recall. Now, rather than simply assuming that they were incorrect, I now understand how exactly they misrepresented and lied about these things. Thank you, and keep fighting the good fight for real science!
This reminds me of Annie Leonard's "The Story of Stuff" episode where she explains the problems with the bottled water industry (The Story of Bottled Water). Nice to see more debunking on the subject from the scientific perspective and not just the socio-economic one :)
This video is wrong or misguided on many points. If you want to hear a legitimate counter argument and math to back it up, then continue reading. There was no mention in this video that the fluoride added to water is not sodium fluoride but hexafluorosilicic acid and sodium silicofluoride which is very toxic and is a byproduct of the phosphorus mining industry. This stuff is very toxic and is not the same as naturally occurring sodium fluoride which is safe in very minute amounts. He also doesn’t mention how sodium fluoride was the main active ingredient in rat poisons for many years. Look it up. Recommend amount of toothpaste = 1 pea sized squirt. 1 pea is approximately 0.25cm cubed. There are 4000 pea sized amounts of toothpaste in a liter. 1500mg/liter fluoride toothpaste divided by 4000 = 0.375mg of fluoride per 1 pea sized amount of toothpaste. The EPA’s max regulatory limit for fluoridated water is 4mg/Liter and the secondary limit is 2mg/L. These limits have known to be exceeded with limited action from regulatory authorities. The EPA allows cities to exceed the 2mg limit for up to 12 consecutive months before taking action. But for science, let’s just go with the HHS recommendation of 0.7mg/L. If someone drinks 2 liters of water a day, that is 1.4 mg of fluoride daily ingestion. Now think about athletes and people who work/live in hot climates that consume a gallon of water (3.78 Liters) a day. That would bring us 2.65 mg of Fluoride a day. This far exceeds the 0.375mg of fluoride in a pea sized squirt of toothpaste. Now what if it is a hot climate and someone’s is drinking a gallon of 2, 3, or 4 mg/L fluoridated water? A fluoride concentration of 2 mg/L in drinking water would result in 7.56mg of daily fluoride consumption. That is 20x more fluoride consumed through water compared to the fluoride in a pea sized scoop of toothpaste! This isn’t even factoring in that the fluoride we receive from municipal energy water supplies is NOT sodium fluoride but the chemicals listed above. I will save writing out the calculations for acute toxicity via drinking water, which can and does happen, but the real problem is long term exposure. These heavy metals bind to the calcium in our bones. What happens to our bones when we get older? The density goes down and large amounts of heavy metals may be released to flow through our blood and land in soft tissue. Alzheimer’s anyone? Our bodies require many nutrients and minerals in very minute amounts that are found naturally occurring in underground water springs. If we are lacking a nutrient, we can simply supplement it into our diet. It is absurd to think the government cares so much about our teeth that they would medicate or supplement the water supplies with it, meanwhile, Americans are greatly lacking in many other nutrients and minerals that the government does not supplement our water with. Instead the government allows all kinds of crap into our food including hydrogenated oils which cause heart disease, one of the leading causes of death in America in the hundreds of thousands. “Cigarettes are good for you too!” they used to say. What makes more sense, the government is very concerned with our teeth, but not how much sugar (tooth decay) companies use in food. Or the government allowed a way for the phosphorous mining industry to rid itself of industrial waste instead of dumping heavy concentrations of it into streams which the EPA outlawed? You tell me what is logical. Many times throughout history, the science community has claimed to have it all figured out until one day a lone Wolf scientist figures out the establishments belief is wrong. This lone Wolf has been mocked at many times. Today is no different. We must question established views on science. It doesn’t mean there is a great conspiracy always but that simply large populations of people scientist have often been wrong. However, those in power should not be blindly trusted. Did you know America is one of the only countries who fluoridate their water? Question, question, and question again.
@Aditya Chavarkar yes it is a fact byproducts of the phosphorus mining industry are used to fluoridate water. And I can agree on your point with the caffeine.
@Aditya Chavarkar it’s the fact it greatly contributes to heart disease, one of the leading causes of death in America, and yet the government doesn’t show that they care. But on the other hand they care so much about our teeth health to supplement our water supply. There are many substances that simply have no place in food and the public is largely unaware of the health effects of hydrogenated oils. Nobody’s forcing McDonald’s down my throat but most people didn’t ask their cities to add fluoride to their water either.
@@Nathanh56 Maybe heart deseases are the main cause of death in USA because it has the biggest percentage of fat and obese people in the world? Just an hypothesis
@@Nathanh56 Honestly, I just find it absolutely fascinating how you used so many words to simply say "I didn't watch and/or understand the video and I know next to nothing about the subject at hand". It's clear from your explanation that you don't have the slightest bit of understanding of how chemicals work and you're too engrossed in your own false sense of understanding to listen to how absolutely ridiculous you sound.
@@appletile2887 Yep. The technology has changed. But if you think amalgam fillings are a ticking timebomb, first consider the life extension to which fillings contributed. Life expectancy has almost doubled in the last century. There's new filling technology now, if it bothers you, get it changed.
I learned about Fluoride in Toothpaste the hard way. I wanted to stop buying toothpaste tested on animals and these mostly seem to correlate with 'fluoride free' toothpastes - my teeth started discolouring a little and I got the first cavities I have ever had in my life (in my mid-20s). I was advised to find a brand of vegan toothpaste which is 'full of chemicals'. I found one which fitted the bill - and it was about 75% cheaper than its 'all natural, snake oil counter part'. My teeth are back in good health and mostly everything else I kept constant so I am chalking it up to chemicals being 'good for teeth' :)
@@MD-vs9ff there a massive difference between synthetic chemicals and natural chemicals synthetic chemicals are most commonly bad for your body for a number of reasons... Where natural chemicals are more healthy less changes of detrimental side effects etc...
You should probably redo the video or spread awareness about Floride because a judge ruled that Floride causes brain damage in young children based off of a single study. It's giving me Andrew Wakefield vibes but with judicial backing
My grandfather worked at Licking Co. Water Testing and Spectrometry Laboratory, and every time I see someone on the internet talking about how fluoride targets and attacks specific parts of the brain, I say, “show me the bibliography”
Hello Professor Dave I am starting my own business of dehydrated water… and it’s pretty darn simple you just have to add water to it to rehydrate it… I think it would be the solution for long space travel and way more benefits…
My wife and I were worried about fluoride for our baby due to much of the misinformation spread about it. We don't have fluoride in the drinking water where I live, and we chose to brush with non-fluoridated toothpaste. Our son developed a small amount of bottle rot because of this terrible misinformation, as we thought we were doing what's best for our son. Luckily we were on top of things, and switched to a baby fluoride toothpaste, and his teeth immediately improved. He now has perfectly healthy teeth per the dentist thanks to fluoride. Misinformation definitely harms
Are you fucking crazy look on the back of every toothpaste (with fluoride )it says if swallowed call poison Control hotline do you know where fluoride comes from, good luck ! DO MORE RESEARCH !!!!!!!!
I value your research. My own anecdotal experience is this: I brushed and flossed daily, always using fluoride toothpaste. My teeth were rotting, with several breaking resulting in two root canals. *_My dentist_* told me to try fluoride-free toothpaste and purified water for a few months and see if it helps my teeth. But, if I didn’t see noticeable benefits, then I should go back to sing fluoride again. My teeth stopped rotting and breaking. Not a single cavity, break, or toothache in several years. I understand what the research says. So did my dentist. My own dental health happened to improve after removing fluoride, but I am likely the exception, not the rule.
@@AMERICANZOMBIETODAY I think his point is more like "mainstream science has proven to be far more reliable than social media posts made by self proclaimed experts in conspiracy.'
Genetics are complicated. There are always exceptions, just like there are some rare allergic reactions to vaccines. That doesn't discount that for the vast majority of the population, these practices are beneficial.
This is why forced public health measures are an insult to individual human rights. What if adding fluoride to the water benefits 98% of people but actually makes 2% sicker? Must those individuals be sacrificed for a perceived greater good?
@@urbanstarship What? A good public health program will be able to accommodate those exceptions. Say in this case, by installing free RO filters to remove the fluoride and providing a dispensation for the additional water costs. Now whether we are actually DOING that is another matter, but saying that we shouldn't have basic public health measures because it requires "sacrificing" people is nonsense.
I still remember an episode of MASH where Frank Burns uttered the line "don't contaminate our water supply with fluoridation" and then followed it up with "better dead than red" when teaching locals how to speak English. The writers of MASH knew about conspiracy theory nuts even back then.
That was pretty interesting. I feel like I learned a thing or two. I'm definitely sharing this with a few choice friends and family members. Thanks, Prof Dave!
Many killers have a middle name, or sometimes a first name, of "Lee." (Spoiler: Lee is a very common first or middle name in the American South, in memory of Robert E. Lee. Killers are as likely to come from the American South as anywhere, so the grab bag has lots of Lees in it.)
My wife and I grew up in the same small West Texas town that had fluoridated water. Seventy years later I have had 2 cavities and she has had zero. Don’t know how this would match up with overall statistics, but i think it must be pretty good.
I grew up in Fairfax County, VA, where the county's water supply was fluoridated. I am now 60 years old and I have never had a cavity in my entire life. Not one. Genetically, BOTH my parents had bad teeth. Excellent debunk video, and I am living proof that fluoridation works!
I'm glad you present yourself as an example of proof. Fluoridation has been happening for several decades now with little side effects exhibited in the population. There will always be exceptions. Some people are just very sensitive to things like this,, but if it was really that bad for us, the results would be obvious by now. Too many people are overly suspicious of anything the government does these days. It's good to be wary but don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
As your pure science videos are WAY out of my depth, I'm PUMPED that you're beginning another debunking series! You're flawless in your dissections! ♫ "Professor Dave Eviscerates" ♫ **hrrrmph** lol! ;)
I just don’t understand what emotion your trying to convey and somehow lost a few IQ points while reading this and I can’t afford those kinda losses pal. RIP OuR bRaiNS
@@rushoflife2368 How is this oblique? I was stating the science focussed content here is too advanced for me to follow but the debunking content I find amusing. BTW, it's "You're", so I can see evidence of the IQ drop you mention, even though IQ tests are mainly cultural and really have little relevance to any actual Intellectual capacity.
Shout out to my mum for giving me fluoride tablets as a kid when the city stopped fluoridation of tap water - 30 years old and never had a cavity ever ✌
When I was getting my chemistry degree, I remember a guest lecture where the professor spoke about a time that a salesman came to his door to try and sell him a device to "take the chemicals out of his water". He was like: "this guy came to the wrong house..." :p He also said: "It's not the chemical, it's the concentration." As Dave pointed out so eloquently in this video, as he does.
@@OGPatriot03 Nope, It's the concentration really because anything, and I mean ANYTHING can kill you depending on the concentration, from basic potassium found on bananas to snake poinson.
@@alexalbuquerquerodriguesal108 But when a substance becomes toxic is obviously highly dependent on the chemical in use. You can't say that chemicals never matter for anything.
@@sethpawlik He seems to be cited a lot by people making arguments exactly the same to the ones dismantled in this very video. Argument from authority much?
I was not aware that "technology" was available for sale, cause taking the chemicals out of water, is really throw it all out. The scammer was clearly not aware water is a chemical. How much joy I would have had in that case.
Science will never be able to keep up with the acceleration of ignorance, because it's not science's fault. It's a failure of education infrastructure, sure, but more than that, it's a failure of capitalism. Class divides and culture wars are created specifically to maximize consolidation of wealth and that's creating and ever-growing wealth and wellness gap in modern society. I know I sound like the conspiracy theorist now, but this is the cause of the out of control nonsensical conspiracy and anti-science mindsets. It all comes down to money, power, and influence, which is why you find religion at the center of it.
.7 ppm of flouride being added to drinking water does not mean thats what people are actually consuming, black tea can come in at 3.75 ppm and some wines at 1.53 ppm.
I suffered kidney stones for years then I started to drink distilled water, when I was having my last stone ( about 12 yrs. ago ) the ER doc gave me an ultrasound and told me I had 3 in left kidney and 4 in right and wished me well. Started to drink distilled and 2 months ago got another ultrasound and now I have none in either kidney, think I'll keep on drinking distilled, by the way, anyone with a distiller can tell you about the crud and dirt you have to clean from your distiller.
In dental school, I was tasked with giving a presentation on why water fluoridation is a bad idea. It was the most difficult research project I've ever done and I convinced no one in my 140 person class lol. I basically had to cherry pick to put together anything resembling a cogent point. I dont think I was supposed to succeed. I think my professor was making a point haha.
@@whatislife1200 you can only try so hard to be convincing when the evidence is coincidental and extrapolated at best and non existent at worst. The project was a farce. I was not meant to succeed.
@@sethpawlik the difference between the us and eu is healthcare access. Water fluoridation is not the best way to administer fluoride, but it is the easiest way to get systemic fluoride to children in high poverty and low education areas. The differences are still apparent in local rural communities in the US between towns that fluoridate their water and those that don't. Socioeconomics make a difference.
@@TheGiantRobot amazing, every word of what you said is wrong. Did you even bother watching the video, it disproves all of your points. I'm not even going to bother disproving you because you're soo far up your ass, that you're not gonna listen anyways
When I was a kid and I first learned about water fluoridation I remember being so impressed and thinking we were really living in the future. And I still love the feel of my perfectly smooth and well-mineralized teeth. 😉
@@johnathanmandrake7240 ah yes, the dreaded "c" word, one of the two very broad science terms which is often wrongly simplified to mean "bad thing", next to radiation. Why *wouldn't* governments put small amounts of tooth-strengthening chemicals in drinking water if they have the resources?
The "why flouride based water if we have it in toothpaste" argument is a bit strange to me. If I had a collection of very expensive equipment, such as servers in a datacenter, I wouldn't just want one locked door to prevent theft. I would want several security measures so I don't lose equipment.
@@whatislife1200 what a strange strawman. I never said I would lock the bathroom to save the computers. You would secure the path to them with increasing security the closer you are to them. Parking lot, lobby, data hall, data cabinet/server rack, server. The idea is that every measure helps ensure security, but you dont waste money on measures that dont make sense. Locking the bathroom when you are already inside and it wouldnt have access to a greater measure of security is pointless. Water fluoridation on the other hand is another measure itself that has been proven effective.
It's funny, when I was in my late teens/really early twenties I fell for this trap and avoided flouride at all costs. I ended up escaping it as I grew older, but not because of research or any analysis. I just grew up and couldn't be bothered by people claiming to know everything. 10 minutes into your video explaining the effects and history in a scientifically based way I can understand and I can't believe I ever fell for it to begin with.
@@pinkfloyddwc okay... Good for you? The point of the video isn't supposed to convince you to drink flouridated water. It's to convince you that the anti-flouride movement is a hoax. If you want to drink "natural" spring water, which very likely has flouride in it, but possibly doesn't sometimes, be my guest.
I'm a very lucky person because I live in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Our tap water is rated as the best and safest in all of Europe. As part of the complex purification process, it's filtered through the dunes around Zandvoort. It's naturally low in calcium and has no chlorine or additional fluoride ions, In the second quarter of 2021, it had a natural fluoride level of 0.21 mg/l Our water management company, Waternet continuously monitors the water quality. Our tap water is of a higher quality than any of the bottled mineral water available in the supermarkets. It tastes great too.
In an 8-ounce glass of water, you would typically consume about 0.16 milligrams of fluoride. The average amount of toothpaste used on a toothbrush is about the size of a pea, which contains approximately 0.25 milligrams of fluoride. That's not much more, but I understand if you swallowed a liter of toothpaste it would be a different story. However, on a day-to-day basis I drink about 96 ounces of water and brush my teeth twice a day. So I get 1.92mg of flouride from water and .50mg from toothpaste... if i swallowed it all, but the common understanding is to spit and rinse! Max for an adult recommended appears to be 10mg so well below the maximum recommended safety limit.
Fluoride is attracted to calcium. As we age, the pineal gland picks up calcium, and therefore, like bone, it picks up fluoride. Arterial plaques that have become calcified pickup fluoride, just as teeth during development. Yet conspiracies abound that fluoride causes hardening of arteries. Totally unrelated as is the pineal gland argument.
There's a book from Ulrich Warnke... It's called the 3rd eye opening... I don't know if it's in your language... 100% of people with multiple sclerosis have pineal gland calcification... It can affect the melatonin production in a negative way and in the Hydroxyapatit cristals adult people have a very high concentration of fluoride... About 21000 parts per million... I'm no scientist but basically fluoride affects your hormone system and production... It's not necessary for your body... It effects the cognitive function of children in a negative and desastrous way (Choi et AL. 2012) (Choi and Grandjean 2013)... Melatonin production is important to prevent several types of cancer and pineal gland calcification affect it in a bad way... (Cohen et AL. 1978) (Liburdy et AL. 1993)...i recommend to look out for this book
I went to the the international academy of oral health and medicine website and couldn't find any actual science, just ways to appear scientific and no actual links and was disappointed that it's library has very little in the way of credible scientific literature and articles and only a few things listed, and yet people believe that this is scientific.
Great video, but you missed the biggest argument against fluoride which is its effects on the pineal gland (calcification). Hope you cover it in Pt 2. Thanks.
It’s so adorable how you think that what you just said has anything to do with the basic definitions of words I was just elucidating. Keep wishing on that star, kiddo. One day you’ll be a real boy!
Max, whining about “cherry picking” is something stupid people do when they can’t refute airtight arguments. Address what’s in the video concretely or keep your mouth shut, little boy.
When I was in college my physiology professor gave us an article from Scientific American that suggested that fluoridation could have some negative effects after long term exposure. I think that it was called "Second Thoughts About Fluoride." For this reason, I have felt a bit unsure about fluoride. Not losing sleep over it, I still use fluoride toothpaste and even fluoride mouth rinse once in awhile, but I couldn't help but wonder if there could be some slight long term effects. Like, what if fluoride water makes people feel less energetic or have low thyroid hormone, but its a small enough effect to not be very noticeable in a study. Years later, I suppose that that article in Scientific American might have been too sensational though. These are just my musings, I'm actually very pro-science. Thank you Dave for covering this topic, keep up the good work.
That feels like a far more reasonable concern then "the government is brainwashing us! it's all a scheme by big pharma to close our third eye!" or something like that. But there have been plenty of studies on the effects of fluoride on people. I'd hope, at least, if there were some serious chronic problems we would have identified them by now.
@@seanc41 ionizing radiation causes damage to dna. Non ionizing can cause damage to the cell itself, killing it. That is if its at a high enough energy. I mean visible light can cause physical damage to the nuerons that can sense light. Technically none of it is safe at certain points.
Sean, this has nothing to do with "textbooks". You do not have the capacity to read primary scientific literature. So you go by narrative. If you like a story, you believe it.
That's curious, but an article in Scientific American isn't exactly a high confidence, large, longitudinal study published in a peer reviewed journal of good repute....
@@nasonguy For sure, you have an important point there. I can't remember if that article referenced any such peer-reviewed studies, I'll have to look it up one of these days soon. I just remember it talking about bone cancer and thyroid hormone, I forget the details after all these years.
Bro am over hear watching him go the extra mile to dunk on people, double time. This is hilarious, and I am glad I got to spend my work day, pretending to work but instead reading Dave dumpster trolls all day long
Hey Dave! Just gotta thank you, for making chemistry more than something I HAVE to do. You've made it something I've started to GENUINELY ENJOY! THANK YOU!
Lots of countries in Europe like Belgium Netherlands,… don’t add fluoride to water though while they seem more stringent on water quality. They added it for a period of time and stopped it later on. So the analogy of the seat belt with airbags is way overblown. Especially since teeth are not the only consideration to make here.
Hi Dave, I've a question...If there's flouride added to the water supply and its in our tap water/toothpaste is it not also in our bread vegetables and any of our shop bought food that went through a process of being washed or produced with mains water...is t not ubiquitous in all the food we consume?
Regulations vary across the country but most food processing plants tend to rely on wells or surface water and avoid municipal water sources because of the cost. Farms do the same. Regardless of the water source they use they are still required to filter and treat the water before using it for food production.
@@MrQuaiven many thanks for your reply, here in Ireland they add chlorine also an anti bacterial. I mostly use filtered rain water....which we get enough of here and on occasion use the tap water for convenience during dry spells. Your video was very informative however I'll be using less tap water and more rain water with regular dental visits for the children 🙂👍
all of the talk of preventing tooth decay made me feel bad for my teeth. I'm not really a consistent brusher so I had to stop for the video and go use my fluorinated toothpaste. Then I spit all of the foam out and washed down the minty taste with a gulp of my likely fluorinated tapwater.
Look, it’s good to question everything and use healthy discernment and skepticism, but the same conspiracy theorists that accuse people of being sheep when listening to established science will believe in just about anything else.
Thats what I was thinking.They'll tell you to open your mind 🤣🤣🤣🤣 to what exactly 🤷 ??Oh their lies , lies they alone believed. They're biased as f 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, the scammers always say "investigate, here is what you need to read", "believe me", "trust me", while at the same time saying do "not trust 'them'", "they want you to read their things", etc ... And people fall for their lies, sad.
As a sheep rancher, the hilarity of being called sheep by the same people running out for livestock medication i use on my animals to treat the current pandemic is almost painful.
"The level of fluoride incorporated into dental mineral by systemic ingestion is insufficient to play a significant role in caries prevention." Thats from the pubmed study that you link in the description.
In the studies ive read when they mention a "topical" application, they are referring to either toothpaste or gels applied by dentists. 50 to 90 percent of the fluoride you drink passes right by your teeth, gets digested, enters the bloodstream, then deposited in your bones and brain. Fluoride applied topically does seem to help with cavities, but drinking it does not really show any benefits. Even though it helps with cavities, most forms added to water are also slightly toxic, so there are some studies that point out that it might do more harm than good, especially when it interacts with other things you are exposed to, such as aluminum or heavy metals.
Thank you for this well researched content Dave. I personally have been a victim of these fluoride conspiracies myself. I stopped brushing my teeth with toothpaste when I was about 10 because I was worried about the impact on IQ, but apart from "saving my intelligence" I also saved myself from perfectly healthy teeth as I developed toothache and cavities for the first time, and my teeth never fully recovered, they still get sometimes achy even though I’m using normal toothpaste. I'm around 20 now.
I mean, their definetly is a reason to avoid flourine. Its the dose that makes the poison but that doesnt mean low levels of a toxin wont impact your health.
I had no idea that the white spots on my teeth were from fluorosis. I thought it was completely normal, and I actually used to think that it was some sort of enamel buildup and that parts where it wasn't as white were spots where my enamel had been broken down. But that was also when I was like 8 and didn't really know much.
@@Loctorak alright genius, google it then. There's no disease that is typically called bone decay. There's osteoporosis, osteopenia, radiation induced bone necrosis, decay of the bones after death. It's like if someone said heart decay. Or brain decay, which you may be suffering yourself.
Fluorosis can only occur during the development of the dentition. If you’re teeth have come in it’s irrelevant. As for the dose, off the top of my head I can’t remember but I know that it’s variable. Some children need more some need less. The 0.7ppm in water for instance was chosen because it hit the sweet spot of maximally reducing caries (decay) whilst minimally causing fluorosis. * found the graph I liked, it’s has the x axis of fluoride concentration and 2 y axis, 1 of DMFT(decay,missing,filled teeth) the other of the index of dental fluorosis. It seems that for some individuals fluorosis occurs at any conc, but this steadily increases with increased conc. hence why they keep water fluoridation to below 1mg/L. Whelton HP, Spencer AJ, Do LG, Rugg-Gunn AJ. Fluoride Revolution and Dental Caries: Evolution of Policies for Global Use. Journal of Dental Research. 2019;98(8):837-846. doi:10.1177/0022034519843495 If you don’t have access I’m sure you can find the article somewhere
My favorite is "you should put electrolytes in your water!" Like first if all, water already has electrolytes and second, my kidneys are pretty sensitive so I just gotta drink regular water and if I added too many electrolytes, my body would be not happy with me.
No - he is talking about hydrogen hydroxide. It has its uses - cooling of nuclear power plants, levitation of large shipping containers, as a soil additive for growing GMO fruits and vegetables. We should not fear modern technology.
@@eniqjoles7720 oh ....... well ...... i didnt think about that . Makes sense that paint chip eaters are also coal smokers living it up in their armchair on the flat earth where no man has left the dome to go to the moon that is located inside, outside the dome , to plant a flag on holographic reflection of earth . I think
I personally LOVE oxygenated water. Specifically, 1 part oxygen to 2 parts hydrogen. REALLY hits the spot on a hot summer day. Makes me feel alive!
A mixture made of 4 parts H2 and 1 part O2 has a little extra kick, though ;)
@@pavel9652 Or for just a little tang, 2 parts hydrogen to 2 parts oxygen. Works really well with the "magical" colloidal silver too.....
Great options, great options.
Pfft, just flush your water with nitrogen and drink that deoxygenated water....
@@Pobodies_Nerfect chem trails are made of it! be aware!
Water? Never touched the stuff, fish fuck in it.
100% of those that die have consumed something containing water within the last month, 100% of those that die were in the same star system where water was at.
That's why I drink sulfuric acid
And its got Fluoride
@@billdell3051
You mean it _has_ people's teeth in it? 😰
Is this an Archer reference on a professor Dave video
Lmao remember when Gwynneth Paltrow said she drank alkaline water with a spritz of lemon, the acidity of which would dealkalize the water even before your stomach acids would
Ha!
Um is she the one who sell vag candles?
@@calculator4482 i think so yeah...
@@calculator4482 yeah she's the one
@@garvinsimmons are you srsly suggesting that lemon juice is alkaline? I hope you joking tho, even if I don't get it
Oye. My former mother-in-law used a "too much water can kill you!" article as an excuse to drink no water whatsoever. To make it worse, she had two cups of coffee and two glasses of wine per day. Needless to say, her health suffered miserably.
There truly is no end to human stupidity, is there.
Holy crap TWO cups of coffee!!!!! How reckless 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Who's gonna tell her that both coffee and wine have water in it 😂
@@tutteredboast1268 as well as the additional poisons caffeine and ethanol
@@duncanbananatyne3890 source on caffine?
Can't believe professor dave really trying to defend Dihydrogen Monoxide. Doesn't he know it causes suffocation and accelerates rust? This video should have a disclaimer on it 🙄
BuT tHaTs WaTeR
I know right! You know 100% of people who have died were found with dihydrogen monoxide in their system. 🤣
@@LightningSt0rm thanks for doing the research and committing to waking up
Ok buddy
Dihydrogen Monoxide is used in nuclear power plants and can cause sweating and urination
"fluoride is a neurotoxin"
*proceeds to binge day drink
Yeah but alcohol deactivates toxin enzymes
@@ncapone87 Yeah but alcohol can lead to brain damage, dependency, problems with your liver and pancreas, and give you high blood pressure. Just to name a few
@@Kapoosh000 but.... Fluoride!
I suppose beer made with treated water would likely still have the fluoride in it.
In large doses, yes. Fluoride in water is low.
Edit: I love having autism, but it is annoying sometimes.
I was with my niece, and we were getting a pitch from some water salesman guy saying their water was perfectly ph balanced with the right minerals for blah blah i don't really remember, and he gave us a couple bottles as free samples.
Later in the car, I took a drink and remarked "Wow! This is so much wetter than normal water!"
The water then malfunctioned for my niece as it started coming out her nose.
ROFL "malfunctioned"
You mean, "This is so much _watter_ than normal water"
🤣
Lol
That's something my grandpa would say. That his kind of humor and I always loved it.
I can't imagine why UA-cam recommended I rewatch this video now 🤔
Fluoride treatment isn't only putting fluoride in water, in some places, where the naturally occurring fluoride levels are high, it is removed from water until the levels are down to the one part per million that is desired.
That actually makes a lot of sense.
Or they just don't remove it at all ,and nobody drinks from the sink , and if you do drink it your teeth and bones start to get brown spots.
@@immortui1832 I see you didn't even watch the whole video
@@irrelevoice i'm talking about what happens in my natal city bro, in Mexico
@@irrelevoice he actually means carelessness in his his native place where extra fluoride is not removed and cause flourosis.
"We're just getting warmed up."? I think you mean, "We've only gotten our feet wet.". =P
D'oh! Missed opportunity.
Maybe 'We have only gotten our feet fluorinated"' ;)
@@ikocheratcr
Could also say, "we only got our teeth fluorinated"
4:20: The very same thing happened when 5G was announced; people started reporting all kinds of ailments even before it was switched on in that specific location.
citation needed
@@lacanian1500 Looking into it the story deeper it turns out to be older and concerned an earlier generation phone tower in Spain that hadn't been switched on yet.
@Andri he's just a liar, literally spamming the same entirely unsupported comments all over the comments section. just ignore.
@@lacanian1500 "citation needed" bruh just straight up say that you're dumb, no need to sound smart
@@harrietjameson he's just asking for a source. Thats completely reasonable.
I like how those conspiracy theorists relate everything to communism and then people will just believe in them
can't blame them, always good to be cautious of communism
@@AverageAlien LOL, I see what you did there.
@@appletile2887 The leftard demorat party has used this ignorance against it's own people to stay relevant.
@@appletile2887 Yes most people can't tell the difference. That's why leftard twats claim to be socialist and then say that Hitler is far right, when Hitler was in fact a hardline socialist.
@@AverageAlien Stop making an example of your own ignorance. Germany saw one of the largest spats of privatization in its history under Hitler. It's like saying Stalin was far-right because he hated jews, makes no sense. Either way, each side has some valid grievances and nobody should take left nor right as gospel.
„We drink water everyday“
Bold of you to assume that I’m not a living undead
@Michael Darrow I can’t bro I’m literally not living
Skeleton or zombie?
you are not a living undead, that is an oxymoron, you could be an unliving undead though that would be redundant. think the pc term is differently abled living impaired or DALI. ;)
@@Joe-Dead
The PC term is Animated American apparently.
Even though a lot of undead aren't even American.
PC culture at its finest.
Are you actually serious right now that there is a „political correct“ term for zombies ?
To be fair, tap water can be pretty bad depending on where you are. In some places in the US, it's undrinkable due to pollution (Flint, MI is a great example, where it's contaminated with enough heavy metals to make it poisonous). In other places it just tastes bad. So avoiding tap water in some places is valid. But yeah, that doesn't excuse pseudoscience and snake oil.
When I travelled to the US, I even noticed that the tap water _smells_ bad... I never noticed that tap water can even _have_ a smell, but let's just say that I'm even more glad about the absurdly high standards of tap water in Germany.
@@midnight8341 I'm thinking that's probably a pipe issue. A lot of people have them and likely don't even know and can't really get them changed because they'd just cost too much. Could also be cities not knowing or caring.
Then again not all water treatment plants are equal and once again some places just don't care.
@@rambbler In the Phoenix metro area there is a lot of old iron pipe. Good water in, horrid water out.
@@rambbler The US still has lots of lead plumbing. If your water tastes somewhat sweet that might be due to lead.
@@midnight8341 Oft liegt es an den Rohren im Haus. In alten deutschen Häusern sollte man es auch of meiden Leitungswasser zu trinken. Am besten vorher überprüfen lassen.
Und wenn man mal länger nicht daheim war, immer erst mal das Wasser für 10 Minuten oder länger laufen lassen. Denn in stehendem Wasser können sich Keime vermehren.
Civil water guy here, good stuff Prof Dave. We largely fluoridate where I live in Canada, but not all. I got flurorisis as a kid because they used to used so much of it where I grew up, gave me mottled baby teeth.
Just remember that fluoride travels through whole body to get to teeth and bone via blood. It affects you in more than just sunshine and good ways. It is a known neurotoxin and no amount of "debunking" will work because science can't contradict itself like that. We also never voted for fluoride in our water, and largely, we didn't even get a heads up. Is that a trustworthy way of doing things in a democracy?
Oh NO! Fluorosis of your baby teeth -- I bet it made them all fall out!! hahaha
sounds great
@@zz449944 same as the permanent teeth...
@@zz449944fluorosis can affect more than baby teeth. It can also affect your bones and contribute to osteoslcerosis
This is all BS -- my uncle was killed by fluoride. After brushing his teeth in the morning he drove to work and was hit by a truck carrying fluoridated water. He never knew what hit him.
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie
😂😂
I see what you did there!
"They're trying to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!"
Purity of essence
Nice reference.
Omg, that's like the "5 lbs of poop in your colon that's poisoning you" line.
scientists in 1920: finally this will make sure no one gets cavities
scientists in 2020: guys the earth is not flat how many times do i have to tell you
Huh it seems that my comment has turned into a mini warzone
Well come on in folks
Holy shit this shit is escalating
That's what you call reversed evolution.
cavities? More like discovering new physics and a complete revolution on our knowledge of how the universe works
@@AverageAlien that and cavities
@@blakelapierre I started flossing everyday, this helped my mouth health so much
@@andregon4366 Obviously, flouride in water is responsible for reducing cavities. It couldn't be improved oral hygiene practices, improved nutrition, and even improved prenatal care. 🙄
You have seen 100 “Everyone who dies has had dihydrogen monoxide” jokes. You earn the silver Dihydrogen Monoxide award.
It's a component of snake venom used in cleaning fluids...
This sounds like the description of a Reddit sticker
The situation is not nearly as bleak as people make it sound. Here in Arizona we have eliminated DHMO entirely from many of our streams, in spite of occasional natural recontaminations.
This is about to be very relevant
My favourite one is still the "be nice to water and it will freeze pretty"
Boy do I love to give my water some lovin', before drinking it.
Though, it always ends up tasting a bit salty...
@@Poodleinacan You didn't just go there... lol
I’m looking forward to more deep dives from you into specific topics like this. Flat earth has been flattened, but pseudoscience and anti-science are more prevalent than ever.
Correction: flat earth was crumpled in a ball to be properly discarded
@@FlatPlaneReality Basically saying "science is a government scam!!!"
I'm so glad that the government is allowed to put chemicals in the water I drink.
Agreed. My UA-cam ads are full of them.
@@FlatPlaneReality the entire Republican party at this point
My favorite part of any conspiracy is when they try to say that the organization we're not supposed to trust supposedly admits to being evil.
The Salvation Army finally admitted to funding child sacrifices in live volcanos with our donations.
@@flagmichael Bad example because the Salvation Army has actually killed people (turning away trans women from shelters leaving them to die in the cold) not to mention funding extremist anti LGBT policies in Africa which include imprisonment and the death penalty.
@@johnbradley8780 Yes, I have looked into them. They never make any sense. Also, why shouldn't I trust science?
@@johnbradley8780 Please, what are the flaws? What are the "unexplained theories"?
@@flagmichael The Salvation army has rehabilitation centers across the country which operate as sweatshops. They use underprivileged suffragettes to staff their clothing donation stores for NO INCOME, NO MONEY, while all of the products they recieve are free. Free profit and free labor, religious indoctrination, all under the guise of rehabilitating unfortunate individuals????? Not to mention the style of rehab gives them tax credits on almost everything they spend on the "beneficiary's". I've worked in one of these ARC rehab programs before many years ago, and all I saw were unfortunate souls blind to the fact that they are being used for labor, while the programs and curriculum they would be a part of had zero use at all, and half of it was fundamentally religious in nature, so no real benefit came to any of these poor people.
You people need to unstick yourself from your mental enslavement and realize what is going on. Conspiracy is everywhere. Sitting here and making a game out of combating individuals that inquire about the nature of the world around us is not a bad thing at all, in fact it is very valuable. (especially since our systems of checks and balance is infantile and mischievous in nature, always siding with the corporations).
14:00 The dose makes the poison is one of my favourite lines.
As someone who uses cannabis medically, and hates people who think it is a panacea that can do no harm, I like to educate people that you can theoretically overdose on weed, you would just need to smoke about 2000 joints in a minute.
At that point, they usually say "see, its harmless" and then I hit them with the following fact. It would take twice as many cigarettes to overdose on nicotine, but if you injected the nicotine from just 1 pack of cigarettes directly into your vein, you would be dead.
In addition to dose, the method and duration of delivery is also very important.
Nobody should be dosing anyone without their permission 🧐
@@christyraeemfinger5740
Yes. Nobody should.
Think your comment was a bit unrelated however
@@ONEisN0THINGThe comment he was responding to was literally stating the dose makes the poison, referring to the dose of fluoride in our water.
@@phillipsmusic3871 Oh OK I missed the context thx.
That probably why it seemed unrelated XD
Case closed. Not touching that topic with a barge pole.
We have to same enemy so I ain't here to impede or join you guys.
Long live the people
@@ONEisN0THING I agree
Moisture is the essence of wetness, wetness is the essence of beauty.
MerMAN!
Whoa, whoa, whoa there, Mr. Science guy, but a Yoga instructor on UA-cam specifically told me that water was flat.
Loving your new content and your History of Drugs series was fantastic.
A Yoga Instructor! Woah, I better rethink some things, I dunno who to believe now. I better go leave a comment on a video about the power of crystals to ask what they think.
Water molecules are 3dimensional
My dad is a professional yoga instructor and he tells me horror stories every day about the ridiculous alternative health bullshit that some of his students talk about in class.
After working in a bottled water plant, I never understood why anyone would buy extra filtered tap water.
Because its hard to lay water lines all the way to the camp site. I work on job sites that dont have water. Hope this helps.
@@jackburton7062 I understand what you're saying. In places where potable water is hard to find or produce or in emergencies, bottled water is necessary.
I've worked in camps many times but they rarely ever used bottled water, with the majority of the water being tanker trucked in at a tenth of the cost of bottles.
My point is aimed more at the average person who buys bottled water thinking it is better than what comes out of the tap when it's virtually the same thing.
It is simple: Marketing. There is too much money to be made out of fools. I do see a use of bottled water, when I am on vacation, driving, and want to drink water, I might buy some, and then just refill it. I properly buy it for the bottle.
There is another use of bottled water, not all, but many: it is sterilized, so it can last for years. good in case of emergency.
But not for regular use, not for your wallet or the planet.
@@ikocheratcr Marketing.. I've said that if they could figure out a way to sell you a breath of air they'd try. I can see the need for bottled water in emergencies or temporarily if potable water isn't readily available.
I would not trust bottled water in long term storage (years) though. A clear container isn't the best thing for that and the plastics used will break down over time and quicker in UV light, not the best. Most tap water is chlorinated so there is no worry of it going "bad" unless whatever it is stored in wasn't disinfected and sealed properly. I've had my emergency supply of water last for years before being refreshed without a hint of a problem. just sayin'
In some locations the tap water is seriously unpalatable. I was once one of about 20 people in a focus group, and it turned out the subject was tap water. The upshot was to determine the perceived impact of known trichloroethylene plumes in the ground around the Phoenix metro area. We were asked (among other things) where we got out drinking water. Most bought it 5 gallons at a time from the coin-op dispensers around town; others had water treatment systems at home. I was the only one in the group who drank the iron-rich tap water.
My daughter lives in southwest Albuquerque. The tap water has so much manganese in it that a glass of water left overnight has a pink film on the bottom.
Who else here is dreading an FDA ran by RFK?
Why? Is removing chemicals, toxins and other additives from our food, air & water really all that bad of an idea? If it's all just one big grand conspiracy theory, what do you stand to lose? If it's all just BS then it looks like you'll have everything just as it is now with no change. What the hell are you dreading?
@@TheAgentAaronbecause as professor Dave would surely tell you, RFK Jr is a pseudo scientific hack, yes there are harmful Adatives in our food, the problem is RFK doesn't use reputable sources, if any to come to his conclusions. Instead of citing multiple reputable research papers, he just boldly asserts medical claims as fact. I want to follow the science and remove proven carcinogens and high fructose corn syrup from our food to improve general health, RFK would say something causes autism cause he saw it on Twitter so it must be true. Also removing "chemicals"...? Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound " oh no the chemicals! " news flash, everything is a chemical lmao, your very eyes reading this are made of chemicals, saying it's a good idea to "remove chemicals" means literally nothing. Also "additives" is equally as vague, salt could be considered both a chemical, and an additive, as well as being toxic in high quantities, does that mean we should ban salt? No, of course not, you're just being vague and conspiratorial and using spooky language that doesn't mean anything. Also "if it's all just BS then it looks like you'll have everything just as it is now with no change" is profoundly stupid, I'm baffled you'd even say that, if it's all BS then RFK could be making medical and dietary changes that could negatively impact the lives of millions. You're a deeply unscientificly minded person with lacking critical thinking skills.
Talk about advancments in research
He says he won't change things, only make recommendations. I'm freaked out over Musk, he's evil
Professor Dave has the incredible ability to make a very complex topic both relatable and understandable, and that is true genius.
True
@@OGPatriot03 Could you cite any particular lies?
@@OGPatriot03 ok
@@OGPatriot03 when did he lie? if you can give an example of him lying in this video, and explain how it’s a lie i’ll listen to what you have to say
@@wasabithumbs6294 Of course he can't.
“I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.” - Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper (Doctor Strangelove or How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love The Bomb)
That is how you can recognize a natural leader: decisive, unshakable faith in whatever.
The water conspiracies were the hardest for me to stop believing. I needed this video
I still find that "oxygenated water" one kinda funny. I'm glad you found a way away from conspiracies.
@@dominien6487 Hey, look at the good side, he was able to get out of stupid pseudoscience.
@@dominien6487 I’m sure you believe in some BS too
@@dominien6487
Well, with that "No" we already have identified the first obvious bullshit you believe in.
@@dominien6487 you believe that people wanna see your low quality UA-cam videos but I don't see anyone making fun of you for that.
The fact that they delayed it accidentally made it really easy to disprove the idiots that thought it was bad for them. Love it.
Or they did it on purpose.
You're one of the sheeple I guess.
The nazi's put Flouride in the water for jews in concentration camps.... It must be good for you...
@@GeorgeDCowley Either way, it showed a lot.
@@forrestunderwood3174 I don't disagree.
Can you guys imagine living in a world without an objective and empiric method to find answers to questions so you can be as sure as possible about what’s the truth on a topic? We have a cool developed and trustworthy scientific method which gives reliable answers and yet the amounts of fakes, conspiracies, and pseudo stuff is off the charts.
Imagine a world without a way to be sure of things.
Living in a world without true answers would end with chaos
Yes. It is called the middle ages.
@@OGPatriot03 I certainly hope you aren't talking about Prof. Dave. he's quite literally based in reason and rationale
@@OGPatriot03 dismissive of what? Who has to dismiss more science to come to their conclusion? You or him? That’s what I thought.
@@OGPatriot03 he lists his sources... where are yours?
I know this is an older video, but I just want to say thank you Professor Dave, for covering this topic. A decade or so ago, during a point in my life that I was vulnerable to conspiratorial indoctrination, I watched an anti-water fluoridation "documentary" that at the time I thought had some compelling points. Since then I've learned to better spot nonsense and pseudoscience, and I've often assumed that all of those "compelling points" were probably half-truths, misrepresentations, or outright lies. This has been in the back of my mind for quite some time, though I was not confident that I had the subject matter expertise to dig into the research and determine what the truth was.
Your handling of this subject refuted all of the pieces of "evidence" that I can recall. Now, rather than simply assuming that they were incorrect, I now understand how exactly they misrepresented and lied about these things. Thank you, and keep fighting the good fight for real science!
This reminds me of Annie Leonard's "The Story of Stuff" episode where she explains the problems with the bottled water industry (The Story of Bottled Water). Nice to see more debunking on the subject from the scientific perspective and not just the socio-economic one :)
This video is wrong or misguided on many points. If you want to hear a legitimate counter argument and math to back it up, then continue reading.
There was no mention in this video that the fluoride added to water is not sodium fluoride but hexafluorosilicic acid and sodium silicofluoride which is very toxic and is a byproduct of the phosphorus mining industry. This stuff is very toxic and is not the same as naturally occurring sodium fluoride which is safe in very minute amounts.
He also doesn’t mention how sodium fluoride was the main active ingredient in rat poisons for many years. Look it up.
Recommend amount of toothpaste = 1 pea sized squirt. 1 pea is approximately 0.25cm cubed. There are 4000 pea sized amounts of toothpaste in a liter. 1500mg/liter fluoride toothpaste divided by 4000 = 0.375mg of fluoride per 1 pea sized amount of toothpaste.
The EPA’s max regulatory limit for fluoridated water is 4mg/Liter and the secondary limit is 2mg/L. These limits have known to be exceeded with limited action from regulatory authorities. The EPA allows cities to exceed the 2mg limit for up to 12 consecutive months before taking action. But for science, let’s just go with the HHS recommendation of 0.7mg/L. If someone drinks 2 liters of water a day, that is 1.4 mg of fluoride daily ingestion. Now think about athletes and people who work/live in hot climates that consume a gallon of water (3.78 Liters) a day. That would bring us 2.65 mg of Fluoride a day. This far exceeds the 0.375mg of fluoride in a pea sized squirt of toothpaste.
Now what if it is a hot climate and someone’s is drinking a gallon of 2, 3, or 4 mg/L fluoridated water? A fluoride concentration of 2 mg/L in drinking water would result in 7.56mg of daily fluoride consumption. That is 20x more fluoride consumed through water compared to the fluoride in a pea sized scoop of toothpaste!
This isn’t even factoring in that the fluoride we receive from municipal energy water supplies is NOT sodium fluoride but the chemicals listed above.
I will save writing out the calculations for acute toxicity via drinking water, which can and does happen, but the real problem is long term exposure.
These heavy metals bind to the calcium in our bones. What happens to our bones when we get older? The density goes down and large amounts of heavy metals may be released to flow through our blood and land in soft tissue. Alzheimer’s anyone?
Our bodies require many nutrients and minerals in very minute amounts that are found naturally occurring in underground water springs. If we are lacking a nutrient, we can simply supplement it into our diet. It is absurd to think the government cares so much about our teeth that they would medicate or supplement the water supplies with it, meanwhile, Americans are greatly lacking in many other nutrients and minerals that the government does not supplement our water with. Instead the government allows all kinds of crap into our food including hydrogenated oils which cause heart disease, one of the leading causes of death in America in the hundreds of thousands. “Cigarettes are good for you too!” they used to say. What makes more sense, the government is very concerned with our teeth, but not how much sugar (tooth decay) companies use in food. Or the government allowed a way for the phosphorous mining industry to rid itself of industrial waste instead of dumping heavy concentrations of it into streams which the EPA outlawed?
You tell me what is logical.
Many times throughout history, the science community has claimed to have it all figured out until one day a lone Wolf scientist figures out the establishments belief is wrong. This lone Wolf has been mocked at many times. Today is no different. We must question established views on science. It doesn’t mean there is a great conspiracy always but that simply large populations of people scientist have often been wrong. However, those in power should not be blindly trusted. Did you know America is one of the only countries who fluoridate their water?
Question, question, and question again.
@Aditya Chavarkar yes it is a fact byproducts of the phosphorus mining industry are used to fluoridate water. And I can agree on your point with the caffeine.
@Aditya Chavarkar it’s the fact it greatly contributes to heart disease, one of the leading causes of death in America, and yet the government doesn’t show that they care. But on the other hand they care so much about our teeth health to supplement our water supply.
There are many substances that simply have no place in food and the public is largely unaware of the health effects of hydrogenated oils. Nobody’s forcing McDonald’s down my throat but most people didn’t ask their cities to add fluoride to their water either.
@@Nathanh56 Maybe heart deseases are the main cause of death in USA because it has the biggest percentage of fat and obese people in the world? Just an hypothesis
@@Nathanh56 Honestly, I just find it absolutely fascinating how you used so many words to simply say "I didn't watch and/or understand the video and I know next to nothing about the subject at hand". It's clear from your explanation that you don't have the slightest bit of understanding of how chemicals work and you're too engrossed in your own false sense of understanding to listen to how absolutely ridiculous you sound.
Today I learnt that there is a special group of flat earthers focussed on dentistry. How bizarre.
@@appletile2887 Yep. The technology has changed. But if you think amalgam fillings are a ticking timebomb, first consider the life extension to which fillings contributed. Life expectancy has almost doubled in the last century. There's new filling technology now, if it bothers you, get it changed.
I remember hearing this when I was younger and just thought like "There's stuff in water that makes your teeth stronger? Cool!"
ikr? and the "WO0KE" kids were like **ITS THE COMMUNISTS DAMNIT**
Drink up
@QQ Do you know how toxicity works? Learn things.
@@hankkingsley9183
you tell him to go learn things, how about you lecture ?
... and you believed it in like manner as many still believe sugar substitutes are also "safe & effective"! 🤡
I learned about Fluoride in Toothpaste the hard way. I wanted to stop buying toothpaste tested on animals and these mostly seem to correlate with 'fluoride free' toothpastes - my teeth started discolouring a little and I got the first cavities I have ever had in my life (in my mid-20s). I was advised to find a brand of vegan toothpaste which is 'full of chemicals'. I found one which fitted the bill - and it was about 75% cheaper than its 'all natural, snake oil counter part'. My teeth are back in good health and mostly everything else I kept constant so I am chalking it up to chemicals being 'good for teeth' :)
Literally everything is chemicals, dude. Good and bad. All the shit, no matter how natural, is full of chemicals.
What’s the brand you use? I’m interested
@@MD-vs9ff I am assuming OP is aware of this given that they put "full of chemicals" in quotes
@@MD-vs9ff there a massive difference between synthetic chemicals and natural chemicals synthetic chemicals are most commonly bad for your body for a number of reasons... Where natural chemicals are more healthy less changes of detrimental side effects etc...
Fluoride make the enamel of your teeth brittle and thin causeing sensitive teeth and cavities meaning. Need to visit dentist more often....
You should probably redo the video or spread awareness about Floride because a judge ruled that Floride causes brain damage in young children based off of a single study. It's giving me Andrew Wakefield vibes but with judicial backing
Its about to get worse
What else you expect from this channel?
@@2pacisAkiltheMClol
I think it was a slightly lower IQ score that was observed when the flouride levels were above the recommendations
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My teeth are falling out, my enamels are peeling off and my gums are sore 😡
- Random American lady
Proto-Karen
My grandfather worked at Licking Co. Water Testing and Spectrometry Laboratory, and every time I see someone on the internet talking about how fluoride targets and attacks specific parts of the brain, I say, “show me the bibliography”
Hello Professor Dave I am starting my own business of dehydrated water… and it’s pretty darn simple you just have to add water to it to rehydrate it… I think it would be the solution for long space travel and way more benefits…
My wife and I were worried about fluoride for our baby due to much of the misinformation spread about it. We don't have fluoride in the drinking water where I live, and we chose to brush with non-fluoridated toothpaste. Our son developed a small amount of bottle rot because of this terrible misinformation, as we thought we were doing what's best for our son. Luckily we were on top of things, and switched to a baby fluoride toothpaste, and his teeth immediately improved. He now has perfectly healthy teeth per the dentist thanks to fluoride. Misinformation definitely harms
Are you fucking crazy look on the back of every toothpaste (with fluoride )it says if swallowed call poison Control hotline do you know where fluoride comes from, good luck ! DO MORE RESEARCH !!!!!!!!
And I only know one city in the United States that's fluoride free and I believe that's Houston and recently
I value your research.
My own anecdotal experience is this:
I brushed and flossed daily, always using fluoride toothpaste. My teeth were rotting, with several breaking resulting in two root canals. *_My dentist_* told me to try fluoride-free toothpaste and purified water for a few months and see if it helps my teeth. But, if I didn’t see noticeable benefits, then I should go back to sing fluoride again.
My teeth stopped rotting and breaking. Not a single cavity, break, or toothache in several years.
I understand what the research says. So did my dentist. My own dental health happened to improve after removing fluoride, but I am likely the exception, not the rule.
@@AMERICANZOMBIETODAY
I think his point is more like "mainstream science has proven to be far more reliable than social media posts made by self proclaimed experts in conspiracy.'
Genetics are complicated. There are always exceptions, just like there are some rare allergic reactions to vaccines. That doesn't discount that for the vast majority of the population, these practices are beneficial.
@@northernstar2064 In high enough doses, yes. But how is this relevant?
This is why forced public health measures are an insult to individual human rights. What if adding fluoride to the water benefits 98% of people but actually makes 2% sicker? Must those individuals be sacrificed for a perceived greater good?
@@urbanstarship What? A good public health program will be able to accommodate those exceptions. Say in this case, by installing free RO filters to remove the fluoride and providing a dispensation for the additional water costs. Now whether we are actually DOING that is another matter, but saying that we shouldn't have basic public health measures because it requires "sacrificing" people is nonsense.
I still remember an episode of MASH where Frank Burns uttered the line "don't contaminate our water supply with fluoridation" and then followed it up with "better dead than red" when teaching locals how to speak English. The writers of MASH knew about conspiracy theory nuts even back then.
Burns was definitely a JBS candidate.
Bros saying all the examples of Communism failing miserably and resulting in tons of deaths is just "conspiracy nuts"
That was pretty interesting. I feel like I learned a thing or two. I'm definitely sharing this with a few choice friends and family members. Thanks, Prof Dave!
Same
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@@AMERICANsparky32 ???
Obligatory “100% of serial killers were exposed to dihydrogen monoxide as a child” joke
Many killers have a middle name, or sometimes a first name, of "Lee."
(Spoiler: Lee is a very common first or middle name in the American South, in memory of Robert E. Lee. Killers are as likely to come from the American South as anywhere, so the grab bag has lots of Lees in it.)
Having to revisit because of RFK’s dissapointing rhetoric
i saw this vid and though the same lol crazy times
My wife and I grew up in the same small West Texas town that had fluoridated water. Seventy years later I have had 2 cavities and she has had zero. Don’t know how this would match up with overall statistics, but i think it must be pretty good.
Dave: mentions Alex Jones.
Me: *remembers the frogs remix*
"turning the frickin' frogs gay"
@@geraintwd "do you understand that?"
I grew up in Fairfax County, VA, where the county's water supply was fluoridated. I am now 60 years old and I have never had a cavity in my entire life. Not one. Genetically, BOTH my parents had bad teeth. Excellent debunk video, and I am living proof that fluoridation works!
I'm glad you present yourself as an example of proof. Fluoridation has been happening for several decades now with little side effects exhibited in the population. There will always be exceptions. Some people are just very sensitive to things like this,, but if it was really that bad for us, the results would be obvious by now.
Too many people are overly suspicious of anything the government does these days. It's good to be wary but don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
But is ur penial gland calcified? lol
@@SharkBellyKelli Not that I am aware of, and it's "pineal gland".
I had perfect teeth, then I moved to the U.S.......
@@brabanthallen you wouldn’t believe this Jesuit if your pineal gland wasn’t fluoridated
I am a plumber. I had a guy that spent like 5k on a filter for aligned or whatever water. He was really angry when I started to question it.
Sounds like easy money lol, you could have "installed" an imaginary filter that delivers the nonexistent water he wants 🤣
I just heard about chlorophyll water a couple days ago from one of my students. My response was pretty much "Why? Are you a plant?"
Exactly what I was thinking of it.
Chlorophyll?
More like... BORE-OPHYLL amirite??
Eat a half of a Mcdonalds cheeseburger and put the other half in a ziplock bag. See how long it takes to break down or mold.
This video is going to be very important again, very soon
As your pure science videos are WAY out of my depth, I'm PUMPED that you're beginning another debunking series! You're flawless in your dissections! ♫ "Professor Dave Eviscerates" ♫ **hrrrmph** lol! ;)
I just don’t understand what emotion your trying to convey and somehow lost a few IQ points while reading this and I can’t afford those kinda losses pal. RIP OuR bRaiNS
@@rushoflife2368 How is this oblique? I was stating the science focussed content here is too advanced for me to follow but the debunking content I find amusing. BTW, it's "You're", so I can see evidence of the IQ drop you mention, even though IQ tests are mainly cultural and really have little relevance to any actual Intellectual capacity.
@@rushoflife2368 The guy's expressing excitement, I'm sure everyone else was able to follow but I'll say it slowly, just for you. E-X-C-I-T-E-M-E-N-T
Shout out to my mum for giving me fluoride tablets as a kid when the city stopped fluoridation of tap water - 30 years old and never had a cavity ever ✌
Why'd your city do that? Where do you live?
I've spent my 34 years of life in Melbourne and never had a cavity either. 👌
@@JohnGardnerAlhadis this was in Mildura area in the 90's. I think melb always had fluoridated water since the 70's
@@OMGshinyobject Really? That's odd, I kind of always assumed that all of Australia (or at least Victoria) fluoridated its water. 🤔
What's your IQ?
Liar
When I was getting my chemistry degree, I remember a guest lecture where the professor spoke about a time that a salesman came to his door to try and sell him a device to "take the chemicals out of his water". He was like: "this guy came to the wrong house..." :p He also said: "It's not the chemical, it's the concentration." As Dave pointed out so eloquently in this video, as he does.
@@OGPatriot03 No, it's the concentration, enough of anything can kill you
@@OGPatriot03 Nope, It's the concentration really because anything, and I mean ANYTHING can kill you depending on the concentration, from basic potassium found on bananas to snake poinson.
@@alexalbuquerquerodriguesal108 But when a substance becomes toxic is obviously highly dependent on the chemical in use. You can't say that chemicals never matter for anything.
@@sethpawlik He seems to be cited a lot by people making arguments exactly the same to the ones dismantled in this very video. Argument from authority much?
I was not aware that "technology" was available for sale, cause taking the chemicals out of water, is really throw it all out. The scammer was clearly not aware water is a chemical. How much joy I would have had in that case.
Science communication is needed more than ever… especially debunking false and conspiratorial beliefs.
Science will never be able to keep up with the acceleration of ignorance, because it's not science's fault. It's a failure of education infrastructure, sure, but more than that, it's a failure of capitalism. Class divides and culture wars are created specifically to maximize consolidation of wealth and that's creating and ever-growing wealth and wellness gap in modern society. I know I sound like the conspiracy theorist now, but this is the cause of the out of control nonsensical conspiracy and anti-science mindsets. It all comes down to money, power, and influence, which is why you find religion at the center of it.
And clear demarcation between scientific areas and religious areas.
Indeed!
.7 ppm of flouride being added to drinking water does not mean thats what people are actually consuming, black tea can come in at 3.75 ppm and some wines at 1.53 ppm.
I suffered kidney stones for years then I started to drink distilled water, when I was having my last stone ( about 12 yrs. ago ) the ER doc gave me an ultrasound and told me I had 3 in left kidney and 4 in right and wished me well. Started to drink distilled and 2 months ago got another ultrasound and now I have none in either kidney, think I'll keep on drinking distilled, by the way, anyone with a distiller can tell you about the crud and dirt you have to clean from your distiller.
In dental school, I was tasked with giving a presentation on why water fluoridation is a bad idea.
It was the most difficult research project I've ever done and I convinced no one in my 140 person class lol. I basically had to cherry pick to put together anything resembling a cogent point.
I dont think I was supposed to succeed. I think my professor was making a point haha.
@@whatislife1200 you can only try so hard to be convincing when the evidence is coincidental and extrapolated at best and non existent at worst.
The project was a farce. I was not meant to succeed.
@@sethpawlik the difference between the us and eu is healthcare access. Water fluoridation is not the best way to administer fluoride, but it is the easiest way to get systemic fluoride to children in high poverty and low education areas.
The differences are still apparent in local rural communities in the US between towns that fluoridate their water and those that don't. Socioeconomics make a difference.
You were also taught that mercury fillings are safe and benign.
@@TheGiantRobot amazing, every word of what you said is wrong.
Did you even bother watching the video, it disproves all of your points. I'm not even going to bother disproving you because you're soo far up your ass, that you're not gonna listen anyways
@@mele2904 because they're perfectly safe and you have no clue what you're talking about.
When I was a kid and I first learned about water fluoridation I remember being so impressed and thinking we were really living in the future.
And I still love the feel of my perfectly smooth and well-mineralized teeth. 😉
I just felt my teeth and I see why you love the smooth feelings.
That is cute, but also actually true, lol
I'm so glad that the government is allowed to put chemicals in the water I drink.
@@johnathanmandrake7240 ah yes, the dreaded "c" word, one of the two very broad science terms which is often wrongly simplified to mean "bad thing", next to radiation.
Why *wouldn't* governments put small amounts of tooth-strengthening chemicals in drinking water if they have the resources?
Implying countries without fluoridated water have awful teeth.
Just wanted to say that I have read half of your book and find it's a great way to introduce people to science!
Professor Dave has a lot of lies to tell you about water, because he is a paid for schill for Big Pharma. WHAT A SHEER BULLY.
@@karlboehrpanzerfahrer7442 ohh a guy with a bunch of misconceptions and pretending to be a conspiracy nut to get attention appeared
@@christianhoej1562 Who's that professor Dave?
Yeah, because "big pharma" is responsible for water fluoridation. Good call, slick.
@@karlboehrpanzerfahrer7442 no you who created that account so you can have attention.
Dave still tearing idiots apart in the comment section to this day. The hero we need.
The "why flouride based water if we have it in toothpaste" argument is a bit strange to me. If I had a collection of very expensive equipment, such as servers in a datacenter, I wouldn't just want one locked door to prevent theft. I would want several security measures so I don't lose equipment.
That makes too much sense, you are clearly a shill for Big Flouride!
@@T-I-M-E.42 Apparently
@What Is Life dude did you watch the video ingesting fluoride is good for you too
@@whatislife1200 what a strange strawman. I never said I would lock the bathroom to save the computers. You would secure the path to them with increasing security the closer you are to them. Parking lot, lobby, data hall, data cabinet/server rack, server. The idea is that every measure helps ensure security, but you dont waste money on measures that dont make sense. Locking the bathroom when you are already inside and it wouldnt have access to a greater measure of security is pointless. Water fluoridation on the other hand is another measure itself that has been proven effective.
Most theft wouldn't be from break-ins anyway, so better security is almost a necessity, otherwise your insurance premium would be off the charts.
It's funny, when I was in my late teens/really early twenties I fell for this trap and avoided flouride at all costs. I ended up escaping it as I grew older, but not because of research or any analysis. I just grew up and couldn't be bothered by people claiming to know everything. 10 minutes into your video explaining the effects and history in a scientifically based way I can understand and I can't believe I ever fell for it to begin with.
I’ll keep drinking natural spring water thanks
@@pinkfloyddwc okay... Good for you? The point of the video isn't supposed to convince you to drink flouridated water. It's to convince you that the anti-flouride movement is a hoax. If you want to drink "natural" spring water, which very likely has flouride in it, but possibly doesn't sometimes, be my guest.
@@88HELLJUMPER88 alright well I’m not gonna read your essay so…
@@pinkfloyddwc really?? You aren't going to read my 6 lines of text?😭 Oh the fucking HUMANITY!!! Ignorant child.
@@88HELLJUMPER88 ad hominem much?
I'm a very lucky person because I live in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Our tap water is rated as the best and safest in all of Europe. As part of the complex purification process, it's filtered through the dunes around Zandvoort. It's naturally low in calcium and has no chlorine or additional fluoride ions, In the second quarter of 2021, it had a natural fluoride level of 0.21 mg/l Our water management company, Waternet continuously monitors the water quality. Our tap water is of a higher quality than any of the bottled mineral water available in the supermarkets. It tastes great too.
Also Amsterdam is dope as shit.
Milk in the Netherlands is the nicest I've ever tasted too.
@@kevindoran9389 🐄🥛.
In an 8-ounce glass of water, you would typically consume about 0.16 milligrams of fluoride.
The average amount of toothpaste used on a toothbrush is about the size of a pea, which contains approximately 0.25 milligrams of fluoride.
That's not much more, but I understand if you swallowed a liter of toothpaste it would be a different story. However, on a day-to-day basis I drink about 96 ounces of water and brush my teeth twice a day. So I get 1.92mg of flouride from water and .50mg from toothpaste... if i swallowed it all, but the common understanding is to spit and rinse!
Max for an adult recommended appears to be 10mg so well below the maximum recommended safety limit.
I asked my father “ what would happen if someone ate a whole tube of toothpaste “? Now I know thanks prof. Dave
Would love to see you debunk the whole “calcification of your organs (pineal gland)” they say flouride does! Nice video
Fluoride is attracted to calcium. As we age, the pineal gland picks up calcium, and therefore, like bone, it picks up fluoride. Arterial plaques that have become calcified pickup fluoride, just as teeth during development. Yet conspiracies abound that fluoride causes hardening of arteries. Totally unrelated as is the pineal gland argument.
There's a book from Ulrich Warnke... It's called the 3rd eye opening... I don't know if it's in your language... 100% of people with multiple sclerosis have pineal gland calcification... It can affect the melatonin production in a negative way and in the Hydroxyapatit cristals adult people have a very high concentration of fluoride... About 21000 parts per million... I'm no scientist but basically fluoride affects your hormone system and production... It's not necessary for your body... It effects the cognitive function of children in a negative and desastrous way (Choi et AL. 2012) (Choi and Grandjean 2013)... Melatonin production is important to prevent several types of cancer and pineal gland calcification affect it in a bad way... (Cohen et AL. 1978) (Liburdy et AL. 1993)...i recommend to look out for this book
@@Motekk67 Thank you for a very informative comment. I'll be checking that book out.
@@stevestevenson1486 hey awesome 😀👍
@@johnnyjohnson4228 nice fake profile you schill
Hey Dave Andrew Huberman recently brought up some papers on fluoride at levels of 0.5ppm effecting Thyroid function, what do you think of this?
I went to the the international academy of oral health and medicine website and couldn't find any actual science, just ways to appear scientific and no actual links and was disappointed that it's library has very little in the way of credible scientific literature and articles and only a few things listed, and yet people believe that this is scientific.
will swishing fluoride in my mouth and running it through my nose with a neti pot prevent me from getting COVID-19 so I don't have to wear a mask?
Great video, but you missed the biggest argument against fluoride which is its effects on the pineal gland (calcification). Hope you cover it in Pt 2. Thanks.
From what I can tell, this is only if there it far too much fluoride, about 5 ppm. Normal levels (1 ppm) are OK
It's a non-starter. Calcification = calcium. Fluoride =/= calcium. It's completely idiotic.
It’s so adorable how you think that what you just said has anything to do with the basic definitions of words I was just elucidating. Keep wishing on that star, kiddo. One day you’ll be a real boy!
Max, whining about “cherry picking” is something stupid people do when they can’t refute airtight arguments. Address what’s in the video concretely or keep your mouth shut, little boy.
@@ProfessorDaveExplains What?
Why is there water in the fluoride supply?
I'm dead at "singing at water changes its structure" 😂🤦
When I was in college my physiology professor gave us an article from Scientific American that suggested that fluoridation could have some negative effects after long term exposure. I think that it was called "Second Thoughts About Fluoride." For this reason, I have felt a bit unsure about fluoride. Not losing sleep over it, I still use fluoride toothpaste and even fluoride mouth rinse once in awhile, but I couldn't help but wonder if there could be some slight long term effects. Like, what if fluoride water makes people feel less energetic or have low thyroid hormone, but its a small enough effect to not be very noticeable in a study. Years later, I suppose that that article in Scientific American might have been too sensational though. These are just my musings, I'm actually very pro-science. Thank you Dave for covering this topic, keep up the good work.
That feels like a far more reasonable concern then "the government is brainwashing us! it's all a scheme by big pharma to close our third eye!" or something like that. But there have been plenty of studies on the effects of fluoride on people. I'd hope, at least, if there were some serious chronic problems we would have identified them by now.
@@seanc41 ionizing radiation causes damage to dna. Non ionizing can cause damage to the cell itself, killing it. That is if its at a high enough energy.
I mean visible light can cause physical damage to the nuerons that can sense light. Technically none of it is safe at certain points.
Sean, this has nothing to do with "textbooks". You do not have the capacity to read primary scientific literature. So you go by narrative. If you like a story, you believe it.
That's curious, but an article in Scientific American isn't exactly a high confidence, large, longitudinal study published in a peer reviewed journal of good repute....
@@nasonguy For sure, you have an important point there. I can't remember if that article referenced any such peer-reviewed studies, I'll have to look it up one of these days soon. I just remember it talking about bone cancer and thyroid hormone, I forget the details after all these years.
Looking through daves comment sections is always a fun time
Bro am over hear watching him go the extra mile to dunk on people, double time. This is hilarious, and I am glad I got to spend my work day, pretending to work but instead reading Dave dumpster trolls all day long
Hey Dave! Just gotta thank you, for making chemistry more than something I HAVE to do. You've made it something I've started to GENUINELY ENJOY! THANK YOU!
Lots of countries in Europe like Belgium Netherlands,… don’t add fluoride to water though while they seem more stringent on water quality. They added it for a period of time and stopped it later on. So the analogy of the seat belt with airbags is way overblown. Especially since teeth are not the only consideration to make here.
Hi Dave, I've a question...If there's flouride added to the water supply and its in our tap water/toothpaste is it not also in our bread vegetables and any of our shop bought food that went through a process of being washed or produced with mains water...is t not ubiquitous in all the food we consume?
Regulations vary across the country but most food processing plants tend to rely on wells or surface water and avoid municipal water sources because of the cost. Farms do the same. Regardless of the water source they use they are still required to filter and treat the water before using it for food production.
@@MrQuaiven many thanks for your reply, here in Ireland they add chlorine also an anti bacterial. I mostly use filtered rain water....which we get enough of here and on occasion use the tap water for convenience during dry spells. Your video was very informative however I'll be using less tap water and more rain water with regular dental visits for the children 🙂👍
all of the talk of preventing tooth decay made me feel bad for my teeth. I'm not really a consistent brusher so I had to stop for the video and go use my fluorinated toothpaste. Then I spit all of the foam out and washed down the minty taste with a gulp of my likely fluorinated tapwater.
Look, it’s good to question everything and use healthy discernment and skepticism, but the same conspiracy theorists that accuse people of being sheep when listening to established science will believe in just about anything else.
Thats what I was thinking.They'll tell you to open your mind 🤣🤣🤣🤣 to what exactly 🤷 ??Oh their lies , lies they alone believed. They're biased as f 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, the scammers always say "investigate, here is what you need to read", "believe me", "trust me", while at the same time saying do "not trust 'them'", "they want you to read their things", etc ...
And people fall for their lies, sad.
Well, yes, it's classic projection.
As a sheep rancher, the hilarity of being called sheep by the same people running out for livestock medication i use on my animals to treat the current pandemic is almost painful.
"The level of fluoride incorporated into dental mineral by systemic ingestion is insufficient to play a significant role in caries prevention." Thats from the pubmed study that you link in the description.
That's why he said that the ingesion of Fluoride is topical.
In the studies ive read when they mention a "topical" application, they are referring to either toothpaste or gels applied by dentists. 50 to 90 percent of the fluoride you drink passes right by your teeth, gets digested, enters the bloodstream, then deposited in your bones and brain. Fluoride applied topically does seem to help with cavities, but drinking it does not really show any benefits. Even though it helps with cavities, most forms added to water are also slightly toxic, so there are some studies that point out that it might do more harm than good, especially when it interacts with other things you are exposed to, such as aluminum or heavy metals.
Personally, I love dehydrated water. So quick and easy to use. Just put it in the bottle, and there you go.
Thank you for this well researched content Dave.
I personally have been a victim of these fluoride conspiracies myself. I stopped brushing my teeth with toothpaste when I was about 10 because I was worried about the impact on IQ, but apart from "saving my intelligence" I also saved myself from perfectly healthy teeth as I developed toothache and cavities for the first time, and my teeth never fully recovered, they still get sometimes achy even though I’m using normal toothpaste. I'm around 20 now.
You where 10 and worried about IQ? Man... This misinformation it's really doing some harm...
This is so sad, I am truly sorry and I hope it gets better
we need to stop pseudoscience now!
@@TheGiantRobot That's a lot of objectively false nonsense you got there. I hope someday you stop being gullible and delusional.
I mean, their definetly is a reason to avoid flourine.
Its the dose that makes the poison but that doesnt mean low levels of a toxin wont impact your health.
Its the estrogen mimicing compounds in the water that are the real problem tho
“Toothpaste tastes good” hold on I think I just had a stroke
I had no idea that the white spots on my teeth were from fluorosis. I thought it was completely normal, and I actually used to think that it was some sort of enamel buildup and that parts where it wasn't as white were spots where my enamel had been broken down. But that was also when I was like 8 and didn't really know much.
no, it's not normal... but "Prof Dave” says fluoride is "safe & effective" - just like he and the STATE said about the "vaccines"!
@@infinityBBC I see, an anti-vaxxer. And I naively thought the only retard I’d ever meet was the autistic kid I met in 6th grade.
You were a smart kid. You came up with a reasonable hypothesis based on what you knew.
Fluorosis causes yellowing or Browning of your teeth, white spots are decalcification.
@@chicken29843 fluorosis starts as white flecks or spots
I can't wait for you to talk about "water memory"! one of my coworkers won't shut up about it
Thanks for this informed and comprehensive debunking of a long-standing conspiracy theory.
Thank you for this video. The amount of misinformation on this is really frustrating.
I have fluorosis from the well water at my parents' house. But hey, I've never had a cavity, so I don't mind
Two questions:
What is bone decay?
What is the maximum daily dose to avoid fluorosis?
Bone decay is bone decay. It's the decay of bone. The occurrence of bone decaying.
That question is like asking what a question is.
@@Loctorak alright genius, google it then. There's no disease that is typically called bone decay. There's osteoporosis, osteopenia, radiation induced bone necrosis, decay of the bones after death.
It's like if someone said heart decay. Or brain decay, which you may be suffering yourself.
Fluorosis can only occur during the development of the dentition. If you’re teeth have come in it’s irrelevant. As for the dose, off the top of my head I can’t remember but I know that it’s variable. Some children need more some need less. The 0.7ppm in water for instance was chosen because it hit the sweet spot of maximally reducing caries (decay) whilst minimally causing fluorosis.
* found the graph I liked, it’s has the x axis of fluoride concentration and 2 y axis, 1 of DMFT(decay,missing,filled teeth) the other of the index of dental fluorosis. It seems that for some individuals fluorosis occurs at any conc, but this steadily increases with increased conc. hence why they keep water fluoridation to below 1mg/L.
Whelton HP, Spencer AJ, Do LG, Rugg-Gunn AJ. Fluoride Revolution and Dental Caries: Evolution of Policies for Global Use. Journal of Dental Research. 2019;98(8):837-846. doi:10.1177/0022034519843495
If you don’t have access I’m sure you can find the article somewhere
My favorite is "you should put electrolytes in your water!" Like first if all, water already has electrolytes and second, my kidneys are pretty sensitive so I just gotta drink regular water and if I added too many electrolytes, my body would be not happy with me.
Where can I buy structured ionized Snake Oil ?
"Over here!"
I can't believe he's really defending hydroxylic acid
No - he is talking about hydrogen hydroxide. It has its uses - cooling of nuclear power plants, levitation of large shipping containers, as a soil additive for growing GMO fruits and vegetables. We should not fear modern technology.
Who in their right mind would use coal to cook without ventilation
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@@eniqjoles7720 oh ....... well ...... i didnt think about that . Makes sense that paint chip eaters are also coal smokers living it up in their armchair on the flat earth where no man has left the dome to go to the moon that is located inside, outside the dome , to plant a flag on holographic reflection of earth . I think
Legitimately didn't know that tap water has fluoride in it. That's probably one of reasons why I have bad teeth. This is good to know.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how funny a name "Dr. Henry Trendly Dean" is?