Yup, I'm honestly not surprised they decided to make him Into an "Echo Fighter" type character. Instead of -Summer, Beth, and Jerry- being a trio fighter!
@@Tyrgermanic Bird Person would be awesome if he got in MultiVersus, not sure if they'll add him in yet due to the current state of Rick and Morty right now.
If regular fighters are taking too long to make and polish then echoes can be a good holdover and can even help to add otherwise unlikely characters like Batman Beyond
Samurai Jack will be the first character in multiversus that is also playable in CN: Punch Time Explosion, hyped to see what they wiil or will not change from that game
“Echoes” with a few different moves could easily be a very good compromise for characters like Shazam or Batman Beyond who are different enough to not be a reskin of Black Adam or Batman, but not that unique to warrant putting the development time to make them into a 100% unique character.
@@jacktheflash8478 I mean, look at Ryu and Ken in Smash, they’re very different. Or Chrom and Roy, Chrom has a totally different up B. And with what we’re seeing with his perks Pickle Rick probably has 2 different moves already with the “Grapple” and the “Ketchup.”
Pickle Rick getting his own slot feels weird, sure we have both Dr. Mario and Mario, but at least Dr. Mario has an entire side series to his name, Pickle Rick was in one (albeit very funny) episode of Rick & Morty, I’d rather they focus on adding more franchises to the game but I guess Pickle Rick could work, at least it seems he wouldn’t take up much development time
If echo fighters add something new to the game and it isn’t that hard to work on Id say let them do it so they can focus on other things while we have new toys to play with
When I heard that the next character could Grapple and ketchup.I guessed it was gonna be Numbuh 1 from Codename:Kids Next Door,Since he uses a grabber and they use ketchup and mustard as blasters.And KND is CN show so anotherCN character to add to the game.
I'm gonna take a guess and say of the three potential Cartoon Network characters. It'll probably be something like this: - Ben 10 (A fairly popular CN rep and one of the higher demanding ones) - 2010's era Cartoon Network rep (Regular Show, Gumball, etc.) - The Powerpuff Girls I could also say maybe a new Steven Universe rep as a potential candidate because there's definitely been some demand for another Steven Universe rep like with some for Marceline in Adventure Time. Maybe having Peridot or something as that in a way. But who knows really.
Honesty Steven Universe is one of those IPs that WB owns that have quite a bit of characters that can work wonders in a fighting game, at least move set wise, same with Adventure Time, literally most of the cast could have a move set since they have had their fair share of scraps, 2 each of them can bring something unique to the table as far as a Fighters move set goes, I can definitely see Lapis Lazuli, Peridot, Connie with Lion, Jasper, Bismuth, Amethyst, Pearl and Spinal being added as fighters since they each have a lot of personality and different moves and abilities that can really make them each fun additions to the roster. Either way, I think having a unique CN rep from a franchise not currently represented in MultiVersus would be a smarter move, like Gumball or Mordecai or even as you said Powerpuff Girls or one of the classic era CN characters like a Dexter from Dexter's Lab or Johnny Bravo even.
I hope we get Pickle Rick soon as it would at least confirm if we are getting variant characters; that are more than just costumes. Cake made sense as a skin because she has the same body type as Jake. Fionna has a very different body type then Finn and would likely need modified hit/hurt boxes. So the prospect of getting semi clone characters is good because it means we may see some fighters that wouldn't likely be playable if they stuck to just skins and fully unique characters. With Smash the controversy always seemed to mainly be with characters fighting the same that should have been fully unique like Ganondorf having Captain Falcons moves. As long as Multiversus avoids that it should be fine.
I really hope that they will reveal the first look of Multiversus Story Mode in style of Subspace Emissary along with a new female character joining the roster for season 2 and 3.
Personally, I think they’re probably gonna hold off on Pickle Rick because of what happened with Justin Roiland. As for echoes in Multiversus, normally, I’m all for them, and I still think that Alph and the Koopalings should’ve had their own slots in Smash (despite how they would likely have the exact same moveset and that would mean that Bowser Jr. would have seven echoes), but in the case of Multiversus, I’d be against it simply because I feel that variants already kinda fill that purpose.
@MagcargoMan I believe that, since they are separate characters from Bowser Jr. in the Mario series, they should have their own slots, regardless of moveset uniqueness.
We need Princess Bubblegum, Foghorn Leghorn, Hippety Hopper, Mera, Poison Ivy, Huckleberry Hound, Morocco Mole Hong Kong Phoney, Crash Bandicoot and Spyro The Dragon.
It's not an echo fighter. Samus and Zero Suit aren't. even though in the story it's the same person. But as fighting game characters they fight completely different. The evidence in the leak.. and the actual show imply that's the case here.
True they could've used Rick as a base for Pickle Rick and have him fight completely different from his human self, lack of Portal Gun and Meeseeks could make him an interesting fighter indeed.
I think making semi-clone characters a la Toon Link or Wolf in Smash (i.e. similar base moves to another character but different playstyles and moves) would be an understandable compromise, just as long as they don't go overboard with it. That way they could also include characters that maybe wouldn't work as a legendary skin but would still play similarly to their counterparts, like Shazam. He's got the same powers as Black Adam yeah, but his personality and fighting style is pretty different and it would probably feel weird to see him chokehold and toss someone aside like Adam does.
I think you're thinking in the wrong direction with Pickle Rick here, Echo fighters are basically reskins (don't get me wrong I'm one of those people that love echo fighters *cough* please Dry Bowser echo *cough*) but Pickle Rick from what you've shown and what we know in the show fights VERY differently. Rick currently is a Mage type character, mostly fighting from afar and having some close up moves... Pickle Rick on the other hand is more likely to be a Brawler or Assassin, being a very up close fighter with many tools in his arsenal, so despite being the same character he'd be so vastly different in how he fights that they HAVE to reclassify his class and make him a separate character. So it might be better to think in this way because with how skins like Cake and Uncle Shagworthy are, they are more akin to Echo fighter mixed with alt costume/characters in Smash, and if they broke the trend now it might cause some uproar about any current characters and/or future characters that get the skin treatment and not a separate character.
True Pickle Rick actually controlling completely different from the Rick we have in the game right now would be a better use of him as fighter, plus I don't mind them having multiple fighters based on one character if they can each bring completely different moves and playstyles, like if Dragon Ball fighting games can have multiple playable versions of Goku that each play differently in they're own right, then sure as heck Pickle Rick being his own thing with Rick as a base for the development of the oddball Vegetable version of everyone's favorite Scientist.
I don't really see the logic behind echo / clone fighters in this game when variants already exist and can do so much of what echo / clone characters usually do (different voice, different animations, different effects). *Unless* they're significantly different from the original character, but still similar enough that they can be a base. I'm thinking, like, at least 3 or 4 moves that are completely different. In which case I guess maybe they'd be justified over just being a variant, I guess. And said move differences are actually the full move being entirely different, not just a reskin of the original move, because as mentioned variants can already do that, although its not very common (yet). Pickle Rick in particular just seems like kind of a lame choice for that concept, though. Its a pretty well-known meme, sure, but it's a gag from a single episode and at the end of the day its just... Rick. With a silly body shape. That sounds exactly like what a variant is. If they were doing more intensive clone / echo characters I would expect actual different characters. Nubia works for this concept, being a different character. If they put in the Powerpuff Girls as a single character and not a group fighter, they could work for the concept, each one having a similar general moveset but their own handful of unique attacks (and of course being different characters, obviously). If we do indeed get Hermoine as a Harry Potter character, they could add other Harry Potter characters as echoes. Pickle Rick... doesn't work in my opinion and doesn't really justify not just being a variant. It would just muddy the line of what would be a variant and what would be an echo. I'm excited for Marvin variants, but hearing there's specifically 2 of them and the 800 gleamium price makes me think it's just gonna be old and new Space Jam outfits just like all the other LT characters. Which is pretty boring, especially since his current variant is also pretty bland IMO. Though admittedly I can't really think of better variants for Marv off the top of my head either, I can't really think of any real outfits he had from classic Looney Tunes. I'm sure there were some, but its been long enough since I've seen much LT that nothing really comes to mind.
Though you did have a good theory on this mystery “C020B” character to be Pickle Rick, if I recall correctly I think from a short video I saw on somebody showing the skins that Rick had, Pickle Rick was shown there but as a variant for him. My guess that could have the “B” in the code name putted in there on accident. The one character that came into my mind with perks here was actually SpongeBob. I’m not sure if Nickelodeon would even consider having him be in MultiVersus or just have him only be in their fighting games. I’m not sure if SpongeBob used a grapple hook before or some form of a laser but it’s just my guess though.
Concerning your choice to move Eleven on your image the voice lines datamine did include lines addressing her from the WB characters so I don’t think she was a holdover from before being a WB focused game. My guess would be Netflix would want the game to be playable on their gaming app first since they removed the Stranger Things games from other platforms so they could only be played on Netflix. Maybe if you play on Netflix you’ll unlock Eleven for free.
Yeah that makes sense, maybe Eleven will be the first third party rep in MultiVersus since there's dialogue acknowledging some of the current fighters in the WB Brawler.
i could see something like this happening for sure. would work well as a holdover while giving representation to other characters that would feel too similar, i think some good examples of this could be Sylvester and Tweety over tom and jerry, Batman Beyond for batman and Shazam for black adam, Hell injustice already does this with things like captain cold having Mr. Freeze as an alt and Chetara having Vixen as an alt
For pickle rick i think he'll be a variant for rick and nubia for wonder woman, i think they might push pickle rick for a while until adult swim founds a new voice actor for rick and morty for the show and for multiversus, as for the 3 cn characters my bet will be mordecai and rigby since there on the highly requested characters for the game, the ppg and maybe dexter, will have to wait and see, im really excited to see more cn characters coming to the game.
@@bobafett4265 Oh heck yeah, i also wanna see that happening, adventure time, regular show and gumball were the last cn series that mark my late childhood and early teens while steven universe and more marked most of my teens, there my most wanted characters for the game like the rest of the cn cast as well daffy duck and scooby-doo.
Super strength, speed, agility, reflexes, senses, stamina, and endurance. Superior hand-to-hand combatant. Magical weaponry, including a magical sword and armor. Paralyzing "Cold Sight" Possesses the ability to open dimensional portals via lion armor. Considering Nubia has these abilities. I think she deserves to have her own character slot. I disagree with pickle rick being his own character though. He just needs to be some kind of special variant skin which alters his playstyle when equipped (they need to add some new system for vague characters like that).
Hey man I would appreciate you making a video on the nasb2 leaks. I think that the next game could be incredible and with enough eyes on it the game could get the funding it needs to be great.
what ppl dont like echo fighters ? im pretty sure i seen ppl saying they shoulda done more in smash , i mean i think they coulda done more..i definetly never got the vibe they were controversial at all
Pickle Rick definitely needs to be an echo. It'd be a waste of a slot, time and resources if otherwise. Also......what if Duck Dodgers is an Echo for Marvin? That's be interesting to be sure.
It's much more consumer friendly for us to get Pickle Rick as a character rather than a costume. This way you can get him with gold, not have to spend real money to buy gleamium to get him.
I hope there aren't any echo/clone characters, mostly because they already have Variants to cover that. If Pickle Rick is going to be a separate character, he's going to have to be different enough mechanically to justify that. Having different perks suggests this is the case.
I hope pickle rick doesn't become an echo fighter. He just needs to be a variant. Many other characters should take priority for echo-fighters and there are some that have completely different movesets. I don't want Shazam to be a variant skin of Black Adam. I don't want Batman beyond to be a variant skin of Batman. I don't want all the robins to be variant skins of dick grayson considering they each have different gadgets and fighting styles. It would be like making miles morales a variant of spiderman (yes I know they are owned by sony/marvel but its an example). But how would it realistically work considering they are their own characters but each are spiderman but one had venom blast but the other doesn't?
If they wanna do echo fighters they need to choose really good characters like terry mcginnes as a batman echo, or having all three power puff girls as echos of eachother. Picking someone like pickle rick is just disappointing and lame.
I really hope that's not the case with Pickle Rick; it'd be extremely lame if he got his own character slot when characters like Uncle Shagworthy and Fern were variants. Same goes for Nubia. I really don't want to see clones in this game, especially not as a way to be filler for a character drought. Have no idea why Raven's taking so long, she's be in the game for as long as Marvin has. Probably should have released her this season. Maybe they will, but I highly doubt we'll get another content update during this season.
If they used Rick as a base for Pickle Rick then it's possible Pickle Rick would likely play differently due to him being unable to turn his head and lacking his Portal Gun and Meeseeks box, he would likely be a different class as well just based on the episode alone, since he used traps and melee to get the job done.
I'm not familiar with Smash and these echo fighters but I would love to see characters similar to Harley Quinn. Her movility, speed and combo potential is what keep me glued to this game. I like Arya too but you require insane precision and timing to land her good attacks, and doing that on online matches where lag exists is way to frustrating.
I'm honestly not against Pickle Rick being added in as a Echo Fighter or a Sudo Echo with some new moves and such, but considering the state of Rick and Morty right now with the Justin Roiland drama I think both WB and Player First Games want to distant themselves from that IP till the dust is settled, so we might just get Joker or whoever is next, but we'll have to wait a bit longer for them in this case, not sure who else they can add as an Echo Fighter to fill in the void, maybe General Zod from Superman? or maybe Adam West Batman? Batman Beyond? Not sure who else who could be a sort of Echo Fighter, as long as they aren't the same character as the ones we already have then I'm all for them being in the game.
I feel really concerned about the state of Multiversus. Such bad timing with everything and so much controversy wherever they step just makes it so that it becomes difficult for them to make any good progress. As for Pickle Rick, it would feel strange to have them as separate characters, but I’m up for it. The only thing I can really hope is that the game can continue moving forward and not be drowned out by the immortal nostalgic power that seems to surround Nintendo
Animaniacs theme song also says “We’re Animan-ey, totally insan-ey!” Just throwing out that they could still be in the running as that “insane” character he was talking about.
It's hard to tell with Pickle Rick to have all these codenames as evidence for him to be a fighter for MultiVersus. Nothing relates to him with the codename grapple that he ever used in the show.
@PapaGenos so a little while ago I made a comment on Twitter about how I saw a supposed rumor of some kind that Dixie Kong would be joining a brand new smash bros game while of course it’s just a rumor but I really wanted to ask you what you thought of about this rumor also I tried to find it but when I did everything was either blank or taken down so hopefully this means it’s true.
17:22 I know that MultiVersus is basically a joke when it comes to Mature Language, leaving multiple swears in the non-mature-language pool, but I really hope that at least this is counted as Mature Language, or they change the setting to "Mature Content" and include this, or something. UUUGH.
Honestly, regardless of the Roiland situation, I think it would be foolish to not do more Rick and Morty stuff in MultiVersus as this years is the show’s 10th Anniversary.
I wonder if pickle rick will be a skin, but with unique perks, making skins with unique perks could be a good way to make similar characters that would be skins, feel more like actual characters, something like, Ken from street fighter, he is very similar to Ryu, he could easily work as an skin, but the Fire Shoryuken, is an iconic attack from Ken, it doesn't feel right to not have it, so making a perk for a Ken skin for Ryu could do that, idk if Ryu will be in the game or not, that's just an example that comes to mind, couldn't think of anyone else. wait, another good one, Peter Parker Spider Man and Miles Morales, both would be very similar, but Miles Morales have electric attacks, wouldn't feel right not to have it, so unique perks of electric attacks for a Miles Morales Skin for Spider Man would be a solution, again, not saying any of those characters would join the game, just examples that come to mind.
Best way to do it would be to make pickle rick and unlockable skin (free but can be grinded for in a reasonable fashion). By equipping the variant skin it automatically adds new perks. Picke rick shouldn't take an entire slot. Since he is essentially just Rick. But characters like Batman beyond, Supergirl, Batgirl , Batwoman, tweety and sylvester. They need to be their own characters since they have been well established with their own series and not just a funny meme added in single episode.
@@keshi5541 Batman Beyond changes so much that it can't be a skin, same for supergirl and batgirl, batwoman if i remember correctly, use guns, so that's a HUGE difference there already, tweety and silvester i think couldn't even fit tom and jerry moveset too well. Nubia i think would work, Michael Jordan for Lebron as well, this would be a great way to please both Robin and Nightwing fans without taking 2 slots, Shazam could work with Black Adam with some changes, it's a good way to put Godzilla and Mecha Godzilla without taking 2 slots, if Ryu ever gets added there could be Ken, Evil Ryu, Dan, Akuma, there's a ton of options.
@@banjo9158 Basketball players should all be skins of lebron james honestly. It would be dumb for Micheal jordan to be a new character but I know for a fact when he becomes a skin there will be an outrage LOL. People calling multiversus racist for grouping them together because they are both black from memes to people actually being serious about it and getting angry. I would call these skins Alternates and not Variants. Makes sense word wise and won't confuse people as to whether the skins actually have functions or are just cosmetic.
Heres what I'm wondering if the Joker really is coming given we have cartoon batman would we get cartoon joker given well Mark Hamell said he wasn't ever going to voice joker again given well he said without Kevin Conroy he doesn't have a batman. I do hope if it is that version of the joker the lines were recorded before Kevin passed away on both sides.
Tbh I don't think this would be good in welcoming new players. For existing players and Rick mains this may be great. But making an echo fighter at this point of the game when there's still room to introduce new/heavily requested characters feels like a misdirection from leads in the team.
I think the reason why Pickle Rick might be a standalone fighter instead of a skin is because Pickle Rick is already quite different from Rick himself. Not only is the build different (given that it's a pickle with Rick's face and rat limbs, meaning it doesn't have the same joint structures and articulations as human Rick; e.g. Pickle Rick cannot turn his head around), but so is his potential moveset (there is NO WAY Pickle Rick can use the portal gun or summon any Meeseekses, due to his canonical size). This isn't so much in line as Daisy being an echo of Peach, who share the same build and moveset. It's more like Zero Suit Samus being standalone from Samus, I'd say.
That's fair dude, could see Pickle Rick playing a bit differently heck possibly a different class all together like Assassin or something that isn't a Mage class, but who knows.
The whole clone character/variant philosophy or ideas presented by players, including the comment section, seem to 'misdirecting' or badly influencing character-inclusions through these methods. In my opinion, if the character can do something that an existing fighter can, then they can be a variant (especially with the help of unique perks). If the character can't or is unfitting (through fighting moves, not manner), then a clone figther is needed. I think Fern is the closest for a clone fighter, but it's like a Lucina thing in Smash (where she COULD not-copy Marth)
Gonna be honest I'm really hoping they *don't* add Pickle Rick as a full fighter, it really feels weird to make a one off form of Rick as a whole character.
The reason I think Eleven wasn't left over from a Netflix pitch is because Raven and some other characters have dialog talking about her. I don't think they'd have recorded those lines if she wasn't at least *planned* to be in the current version of the game.
Also despite having been a fan of Harry Potter as a kid, I sincerely hope that they don't get a character in MultiVersus. Rowling is a hateful, wretched, slimeball and I don't want anymore attention (or money for that matter) being wasted on her. Same for Roiland tbh, we don't need any more Rick and Morty content, the 2 main characters and a stage is plenty.
Yup, I'm honestly not surprised they decided to make him Into an "Echo Fighter" type character. Instead of -Summer, Beth, and Jerry- being a trio fighter!
It's not an echo fighter. Samus and Zs Samus aren't echo fighters just because they're forms of the same person.
And it'd be Bird Person anyways
@@Tyrgermanic Bird Person would be awesome if he got in MultiVersus, not sure if they'll add him in yet due to the current state of Rick and Morty right now.
If regular fighters are taking too long to make and polish then echoes can be a good holdover and can even help to add otherwise unlikely characters like Batman Beyond
Batman Beyond is one of my only wanted characters
I believe they said if they did plan to add batman beyond he'd be his own unique character
How about Bizarro for Superman?
I want Batman beyond too! Excited 🙂
Samurai Jack will be the first character in multiversus that is also playable in CN: Punch Time Explosion, hyped to see what they wiil or will not change from that game
“Echoes” with a few different moves could easily be a very good compromise for characters like Shazam or Batman Beyond who are different enough to not be a reskin of Black Adam or Batman, but not that unique to warrant putting the development time to make them into a 100% unique character.
Is it still an echo if it has different moves?
Tony said he wants Batman beyond to be unique.
@@jacktheflash8478 I mean, look at Ryu and Ken in Smash, they’re very different. Or Chrom and Roy, Chrom has a totally different up B. And with what we’re seeing with his perks Pickle Rick probably has 2 different moves already with the “Grapple” and the “Ketchup.”
@@TheBackRoom_Gaming Yes, I do believe being echo with a few changed moves would constitute that.
Pickle Rick getting his own slot feels weird, sure we have both Dr. Mario and Mario, but at least Dr. Mario has an entire side series to his name, Pickle Rick was in one (albeit very funny) episode of Rick & Morty, I’d rather they focus on adding more franchises to the game but I guess Pickle Rick could work, at least it seems he wouldn’t take up much development time
It was, indeed, the funniest shit I’ve ever seen
Dr. Mario is Mario. Pickle Rick is a fighter when Rick is a scientist
If echo fighters add something new to the game and it isn’t that hard to work on Id say let them do it so they can focus on other things while we have new toys to play with
When I heard that the next character could Grapple and ketchup.I guessed it was gonna be Numbuh 1 from Codename:Kids Next Door,Since he uses a grabber and they use ketchup and mustard as blasters.And KND is CN show so anotherCN character to add to the game.
I was wondering what I was going to do for the next 18 minutes and 46 seconds. Glad to be here.
I'm gonna take a guess and say of the three potential Cartoon Network characters. It'll probably be something like this:
- Ben 10 (A fairly popular CN rep and one of the higher demanding ones)
- 2010's era Cartoon Network rep (Regular Show, Gumball, etc.)
- The Powerpuff Girls
I could also say maybe a new Steven Universe rep as a potential candidate because there's definitely been some demand for another Steven Universe rep like with some for Marceline in Adventure Time. Maybe having Peridot or something as that in a way. But who knows really.
Honesty Steven Universe is one of those IPs that WB owns that have quite a bit of characters that can work wonders in a fighting game, at least move set wise, same with Adventure Time, literally most of the cast could have a move set since they have had their fair share of scraps, 2 each of them can bring something unique to the table as far as a Fighters move set goes, I can definitely see Lapis Lazuli, Peridot, Connie with Lion, Jasper, Bismuth, Amethyst, Pearl and Spinal being added as fighters since they each have a lot of personality and different moves and abilities that can really make them each fun additions to the roster. Either way, I think having a unique CN rep from a franchise not currently represented in MultiVersus would be a smarter move, like Gumball or Mordecai or even as you said Powerpuff Girls or one of the classic era CN characters like a Dexter from Dexter's Lab or Johnny Bravo even.
He turned himself into a Multiversus fighter. Funniest thing I've ever seen.
I hope we get Pickle Rick soon as it would at least confirm if we are getting variant characters; that are more than just costumes. Cake made sense as a skin because she has the same body type as Jake. Fionna has a very different body type then Finn and would likely need modified hit/hurt boxes. So the prospect of getting semi clone characters is good because it means we may see some fighters that wouldn't likely be playable if they stuck to just skins and fully unique characters.
With Smash the controversy always seemed to mainly be with characters fighting the same that should have been fully unique like Ganondorf having Captain Falcons moves. As long as Multiversus avoids that it should be fine.
Yo early squad!! I sure hope they add echo-like characters in the future, it makes more room for characters like Shazam
I really hope that they will reveal the first look of Multiversus Story Mode in style of Subspace Emissary along with a new female character joining the roster for season 2 and 3.
Personally, I think they’re probably gonna hold off on Pickle Rick because of what happened with Justin Roiland.
As for echoes in Multiversus, normally, I’m all for them, and I still think that Alph and the Koopalings should’ve had their own slots in Smash (despite how they would likely have the exact same moveset and that would mean that Bowser Jr. would have seven echoes), but in the case of Multiversus, I’d be against it simply because I feel that variants already kinda fill that purpose.
There is no Brittney and Charlie as Alternate Outfits in the Smash Series.
@Fire Embliam who?
@Fire Embliam oh, the guys from Pikmin 3. Sorry, it took me a second. Anyway, what’s your point?
What would have been the point of giving the Koopalings their own slots?
@MagcargoMan I believe that, since they are separate characters from Bowser Jr. in the Mario series, they should have their own slots, regardless of moveset uniqueness.
I kid you not PapaGenos they turned him into a Echo fighter, He's called Echo Fighter Rick. Funniest shit ever ever heard
Papa you know what'd make me VERY HAPPY?
imagine Dexter Douglas aka Freakazoid gets in.
Or any of the Three Animaniacs
We need Princess Bubblegum, Foghorn Leghorn, Hippety Hopper, Mera, Poison Ivy, Huckleberry Hound, Morocco Mole Hong Kong Phoney, Crash Bandicoot and Spyro The Dragon.
It's not an echo fighter. Samus and Zero Suit aren't. even though in the story it's the same person. But as fighting game characters they fight completely different.
The evidence in the leak.. and the actual show imply that's the case here.
True they could've used Rick as a base for Pickle Rick and have him fight completely different from his human self, lack of Portal Gun and Meeseeks could make him an interesting fighter indeed.
@@bobafett4265 how could he be the base!? It's a pickle. With rat legs. Maybe the asset of his face but that's about it. Think about it
I'm curious how the community will react if that Pickle Rick thing comes to fruition. Me personally, I'm not too big a fan.
Variants keep the moveset, echos would have slight differences. I'm down with it. Give me 200 characters
Floaty Bloody Man would also be a good choice
Guys it's Condiment Man
Bird Person would also be a good choice
I think making semi-clone characters a la Toon Link or Wolf in Smash (i.e. similar base moves to another character but different playstyles and moves) would be an understandable compromise, just as long as they don't go overboard with it. That way they could also include characters that maybe wouldn't work as a legendary skin but would still play similarly to their counterparts, like Shazam. He's got the same powers as Black Adam yeah, but his personality and fighting style is pretty different and it would probably feel weird to see him chokehold and toss someone aside like Adam does.
I think you're thinking in the wrong direction with Pickle Rick here, Echo fighters are basically reskins (don't get me wrong I'm one of those people that love echo fighters *cough* please Dry Bowser echo *cough*) but Pickle Rick from what you've shown and what we know in the show fights VERY differently. Rick currently is a Mage type character, mostly fighting from afar and having some close up moves... Pickle Rick on the other hand is more likely to be a Brawler or Assassin, being a very up close fighter with many tools in his arsenal, so despite being the same character he'd be so vastly different in how he fights that they HAVE to reclassify his class and make him a separate character. So it might be better to think in this way because with how skins like Cake and Uncle Shagworthy are, they are more akin to Echo fighter mixed with alt costume/characters in Smash, and if they broke the trend now it might cause some uproar about any current characters and/or future characters that get the skin treatment and not a separate character.
True Pickle Rick actually controlling completely different from the Rick we have in the game right now would be a better use of him as fighter, plus I don't mind them having multiple fighters based on one character if they can each bring completely different moves and playstyles, like if Dragon Ball fighting games can have multiple playable versions of Goku that each play differently in they're own right, then sure as heck Pickle Rick being his own thing with Rick as a base for the development of the oddball Vegetable version of everyone's favorite Scientist.
pickle rick is the only thing I would consider buying
I don't really see the logic behind echo / clone fighters in this game when variants already exist and can do so much of what echo / clone characters usually do (different voice, different animations, different effects). *Unless* they're significantly different from the original character, but still similar enough that they can be a base. I'm thinking, like, at least 3 or 4 moves that are completely different. In which case I guess maybe they'd be justified over just being a variant, I guess. And said move differences are actually the full move being entirely different, not just a reskin of the original move, because as mentioned variants can already do that, although its not very common (yet).
Pickle Rick in particular just seems like kind of a lame choice for that concept, though. Its a pretty well-known meme, sure, but it's a gag from a single episode and at the end of the day its just... Rick. With a silly body shape. That sounds exactly like what a variant is. If they were doing more intensive clone / echo characters I would expect actual different characters. Nubia works for this concept, being a different character. If they put in the Powerpuff Girls as a single character and not a group fighter, they could work for the concept, each one having a similar general moveset but their own handful of unique attacks (and of course being different characters, obviously). If we do indeed get Hermoine as a Harry Potter character, they could add other Harry Potter characters as echoes. Pickle Rick... doesn't work in my opinion and doesn't really justify not just being a variant. It would just muddy the line of what would be a variant and what would be an echo.
I'm excited for Marvin variants, but hearing there's specifically 2 of them and the 800 gleamium price makes me think it's just gonna be old and new Space Jam outfits just like all the other LT characters. Which is pretty boring, especially since his current variant is also pretty bland IMO. Though admittedly I can't really think of better variants for Marv off the top of my head either, I can't really think of any real outfits he had from classic Looney Tunes. I'm sure there were some, but its been long enough since I've seen much LT that nothing really comes to mind.
Though you did have a good theory on this mystery “C020B” character to be Pickle Rick, if I recall correctly I think from a short video I saw on somebody showing the skins that Rick had, Pickle Rick was shown there but as a variant for him. My guess that could have the “B” in the code name putted in there on accident. The one character that came into my mind with perks here was actually SpongeBob. I’m not sure if Nickelodeon would even consider having him be in MultiVersus or just have him only be in their fighting games. I’m not sure if SpongeBob used a grapple hook before or some form of a laser but it’s just my guess though.
big chungus was used in a video game
Those mystery CN characters and the other mystery ones in limbo have me extremely curious
“I’m Pickle Genos Mario!”
Funniest shit I’ve ever heard.
Maybe the slowdown of characters and messy development is due to the new regime at Warner-Discovery cutting funding?
"Among", you say?
Concerning your choice to move Eleven on your image the voice lines datamine did include lines addressing her from the WB characters so I don’t think she was a holdover from before being a WB focused game.
My guess would be Netflix would want the game to be playable on their gaming app first since they removed the Stranger Things games from other platforms so they could only be played on Netflix. Maybe if you play on Netflix you’ll unlock Eleven for free.
Yeah that makes sense, maybe Eleven will be the first third party rep in MultiVersus since there's dialogue acknowledging some of the current fighters in the WB Brawler.
The two Marvin skins are probably his Space Jam outfits
The real news here for me is that Tooned Out might still be happening.
Next they can add roiland himself, his moveset can consist of him s$&@ually assaulting the characters in different and unique ways
Wow what a terrible time for this to leak!
i could see something like this happening for sure. would work well as a holdover while giving representation to other characters that would feel too similar, i think some good examples of this could be Sylvester and Tweety over tom and jerry, Batman Beyond for batman and Shazam for black adam, Hell injustice already does this with things like captain cold having Mr. Freeze as an alt and Chetara having Vixen as an alt
You should have every cartoon character from the old fighter game in the early 2000's, because they are all still owned by WB
Pickle Rick as an echo fighter over fern is kinda crazy to me
For pickle rick i think he'll be a variant for rick and nubia for wonder woman, i think they might push pickle rick for a while until adult swim founds a new voice actor for rick and morty for the show and for multiversus, as for the 3 cn characters my bet will be mordecai and rigby since there on the highly requested characters for the game, the ppg and maybe dexter, will have to wait and see, im really excited to see more cn characters coming to the game.
I hope they add Mordecai and Rigby as separate fighters, would allow fans to have their dream match up of Mordecai and Rigby VS Finn and Jake.
@@bobafett4265 Oh heck yeah, i also wanna see that happening, adventure time, regular show and gumball were the last cn series that mark my late childhood and early teens while steven universe and more marked most of my teens, there my most wanted characters for the game like the rest of the cn cast as well daffy duck and scooby-doo.
Super strength, speed, agility, reflexes, senses, stamina, and endurance.
Superior hand-to-hand combatant.
Magical weaponry, including a magical sword and armor.
Paralyzing "Cold Sight"
Possesses the ability to open dimensional portals via lion armor.
Considering Nubia has these abilities. I think she deserves to have her own character slot.
I disagree with pickle rick being his own character though. He just needs to be some kind of special variant skin which alters his playstyle when equipped (they need to add some new system for vague characters like that).
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Hey man I would appreciate you making a video on the nasb2 leaks. I think that the next game could be incredible and with enough eyes on it the game could get the funding it needs to be great.
IM PICKLE RICK
i'm a little relieved, as this means characters like the powerpuffs or bare bears could get in
I always assumed the big chingus TM was just for a emote/taunt
what ppl dont like echo fighters ? im pretty sure i seen ppl saying they shoulda done more in smash , i mean i think they coulda done more..i definetly never got the vibe they were controversial at all
Pickle Rick definitely needs to be an echo. It'd be a waste of a slot, time and resources if otherwise.
Also......what if Duck Dodgers is an Echo for Marvin? That's be interesting to be sure.
Pickle Rick being anything more than a skin is a waste of slot.
I really hope to see more Hanna-Barbara reps not just from Scooby doo
I'm pretty sure that the thing that they're referring to with the codename thing to Rick Sanchez is number 1 from codename kids next door
Proud to see that the comments here are mostly staying on topic about the game and not any things outside of the game..
It's much more consumer friendly for us to get Pickle Rick as a character rather than a costume. This way you can get him with gold, not have to spend real money to buy gleamium to get him.
Hi papa
I hope there aren't any echo/clone characters, mostly because they already have Variants to cover that. If Pickle Rick is going to be a separate character, he's going to have to be different enough mechanically to justify that. Having different perks suggests this is the case.
I hope pickle rick doesn't become an echo fighter. He just needs to be a variant. Many other characters should take priority for echo-fighters and there are some that have completely different movesets.
I don't want Shazam to be a variant skin of Black Adam. I don't want Batman beyond to be a variant skin of Batman. I don't want all the robins to be variant skins of dick grayson considering they each have different gadgets and fighting styles.
It would be like making miles morales a variant of spiderman (yes I know they are owned by sony/marvel but its an example). But how would it realistically work considering they are their own characters but each are spiderman but one had venom blast but the other doesn't?
I’d rather have Pickle Rick as a variant
If they wanna do echo fighters they need to choose really good characters like terry mcginnes as a batman echo, or having all three power puff girls as echos of eachother. Picking someone like pickle rick is just disappointing and lame.
I'd love if we got Edd Ed N Eddy reps or KND somehow
I feel Pickle Rick it's gonna be a semi clone fighter with sharing Rick Sanchez moves and some unique moves like throw ketchup
A Laser, those arm drill gauntlets, a Grappling Hook made from that trap he used in the episode, which seems like something Rick would do.
It's just a joke...
Sort of off topic but what do you think of James Gunn’s and Peter Safran’s DC plan?
It's good
havent looked into it
@@PapaGenos Here’s a link to a video about it: ua-cam.com/video/Nd6gBZI5808/v-deo.html
I really hope that's not the case with Pickle Rick; it'd be extremely lame if he got his own character slot when characters like Uncle Shagworthy and Fern were variants. Same goes for Nubia. I really don't want to see clones in this game, especially not as a way to be filler for a character drought.
Have no idea why Raven's taking so long, she's be in the game for as long as Marvin has. Probably should have released her this season. Maybe they will, but I highly doubt we'll get another content update during this season.
If they used Rick as a base for Pickle Rick then it's possible Pickle Rick would likely play differently due to him being unable to turn his head and lacking his Portal Gun and Meeseeks box, he would likely be a different class as well just based on the episode alone, since he used traps and melee to get the job done.
I'm not familiar with Smash and these echo fighters but I would love to see characters similar to Harley Quinn.
Her movility, speed and combo potential is what keep me glued to this game.
I like Arya too but you require insane precision and timing to land her good attacks, and doing that on online matches where lag exists is way to frustrating.
Poor multiversus i feel bad for them there timing is so unlucky lately
This could be too a new tier of skin.
The leaker sent me the Fionna lines if you want them
I'm honestly not against Pickle Rick being added in as a Echo Fighter or a Sudo Echo with some new moves and such, but considering the state of Rick and Morty right now with the Justin Roiland drama I think both WB and Player First Games want to distant themselves from that IP till the dust is settled, so we might just get Joker or whoever is next, but we'll have to wait a bit longer for them in this case, not sure who else they can add as an Echo Fighter to fill in the void, maybe General Zod from Superman? or maybe Adam West Batman? Batman Beyond? Not sure who else who could be a sort of Echo Fighter, as long as they aren't the same character as the ones we already have then I'm all for them being in the game.
Oof this is kinda awkward considering the Justin Roiland news
Yeaaaah bad timing as usual for multiversus
I feel really concerned about the state of Multiversus. Such bad timing with everything and so much controversy wherever they step just makes it so that it becomes difficult for them to make any good progress. As for Pickle Rick, it would feel strange to have them as separate characters, but I’m up for it. The only thing I can really hope is that the game can continue moving forward and not be drowned out by the immortal nostalgic power that seems to surround Nintendo
Animaniacs theme song also says “We’re Animan-ey, totally insan-ey!”
Just throwing out that they could still be in the running as that “insane” character he was talking about.
true! but I dont think they will be too soon, although animaniacs stuff should show up on the WB Lot stage whenever we get that
It's hard to tell with Pickle Rick to have all these codenames as evidence for him to be a fighter for MultiVersus. Nothing relates to him with the codename grapple that he ever used in the show.
@PapaGenos so a little while ago I made a comment on Twitter about how I saw a supposed rumor of some kind that Dixie Kong would be joining a brand new smash bros game while of course it’s just a rumor but I really wanted to ask you what you thought of about this rumor also I tried to find it but when I did everything was either blank or taken down so hopefully this means it’s true.
17:22 I know that MultiVersus is basically a joke when it comes to Mature Language, leaving multiple swears in the non-mature-language pool, but I really hope that at least this is counted as Mature Language, or they change the setting to "Mature Content" and include this, or something. UUUGH.
Honestly, regardless of the Roiland situation, I think it would be foolish to not do more Rick and Morty stuff in MultiVersus as this years is the show’s 10th Anniversary.
I wonder if pickle rick will be a skin, but with unique perks, making skins with unique perks could be a good way to make similar characters that would be skins, feel more like actual characters, something like, Ken from street fighter, he is very similar to Ryu, he could easily work as an skin, but the Fire Shoryuken, is an iconic attack from Ken, it doesn't feel right to not have it, so making a perk for a Ken skin for Ryu could do that, idk if Ryu will be in the game or not, that's just an example that comes to mind, couldn't think of anyone else. wait, another good one, Peter Parker Spider Man and Miles Morales, both would be very similar, but Miles Morales have electric attacks, wouldn't feel right not to have it, so unique perks of electric attacks for a Miles Morales Skin for Spider Man would be a solution, again, not saying any of those characters would join the game, just examples that come to mind.
Best way to do it would be to make pickle rick and unlockable skin (free but can be grinded for in a reasonable fashion). By equipping the variant skin it automatically adds new perks.
Picke rick shouldn't take an entire slot. Since he is essentially just Rick.
But characters like Batman beyond, Supergirl, Batgirl , Batwoman, tweety and sylvester. They need to be their own characters since they have been well established with their own series and not just a funny meme added in single episode.
@@keshi5541 Batman Beyond changes so much that it can't be a skin, same for supergirl and batgirl, batwoman if i remember correctly, use guns, so that's a HUGE difference there already, tweety and silvester i think couldn't even fit tom and jerry moveset too well. Nubia i think would work, Michael Jordan for Lebron as well, this would be a great way to please both Robin and Nightwing fans without taking 2 slots, Shazam could work with Black Adam with some changes, it's a good way to put Godzilla and Mecha Godzilla without taking 2 slots, if Ryu ever gets added there could be Ken, Evil Ryu, Dan, Akuma, there's a ton of options.
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Basketball players should all be skins of lebron james honestly. It would be dumb for Micheal jordan to be a new character but I know for a fact when he becomes a skin there will be an outrage LOL.
People calling multiversus racist for grouping them together because they are both black from memes to people actually being serious about it and getting angry.
I would call these skins Alternates and not Variants. Makes sense word wise and won't confuse people as to whether the skins actually have functions or are just cosmetic.
@@keshi5541 Yeah, it could work.
Outfits sadly.
Real fighters from franchises to Multiversus, are real joy.
Not anymore!
Heres what I'm wondering if the Joker really is coming given we have cartoon batman would we get cartoon joker given well Mark Hamell said he wasn't ever going to voice joker again given well he said without Kevin Conroy he doesn't have a batman. I do hope if it is that version of the joker the lines were recorded before Kevin passed away on both sides.
When more characters coming?
Tbh I don't think this would be good in welcoming new players. For existing players and Rick mains this may be great. But making an echo fighter at this point of the game when there's still room to introduce new/heavily requested characters feels like a misdirection from leads in the team.
I think the reason why Pickle Rick might be a standalone fighter instead of a skin is because Pickle Rick is already quite different from Rick himself. Not only is the build different (given that it's a pickle with Rick's face and rat limbs, meaning it doesn't have the same joint structures and articulations as human Rick; e.g. Pickle Rick cannot turn his head around), but so is his potential moveset (there is NO WAY Pickle Rick can use the portal gun or summon any Meeseekses, due to his canonical size). This isn't so much in line as Daisy being an echo of Peach, who share the same build and moveset. It's more like Zero Suit Samus being standalone from Samus, I'd say.
That's fair dude, could see Pickle Rick playing a bit differently heck possibly a different class all together like Assassin or something that isn't a Mage class, but who knows.
The whole clone character/variant philosophy or ideas presented by players, including the comment section, seem to 'misdirecting' or badly influencing character-inclusions through these methods.
In my opinion, if the character can do something that an existing fighter can, then they can be a variant (especially with the help of unique perks). If the character can't or is unfitting (through fighting moves, not manner), then a clone figther is needed.
I think Fern is the closest for a clone fighter, but it's like a Lucina thing in Smash (where she COULD not-copy Marth)
Note: I have nothing against clone fighters.
I also want to highlight Papagenos's statements in 8:10 - 9:50
Powerpuff Girl....???
Gonna be honest I'm really hoping they *don't* add Pickle Rick as a full fighter, it really feels weird to make a one off form of Rick as a whole character.
I agree wholeheartedly
Definitely agreed. Rick and Morty does _not_ need another playable character, and a one-off meme character like Pickle Rick would be incredibly lame.
Also #Spongebob4multiversus
Will they have Justin as the va?
geez, talk about bad timing!
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Idk why Justin Roiland's business would effect a video game that has nothing to do with him
The reason I think Eleven wasn't left over from a Netflix pitch is because Raven and some other characters have dialog talking about her. I don't think they'd have recorded those lines if she wasn't at least *planned* to be in the current version of the game.
Also despite having been a fan of Harry Potter as a kid, I sincerely hope that they don't get a character in MultiVersus. Rowling is a hateful, wretched, slimeball and I don't want anymore attention (or money for that matter) being wasted on her.
Same for Roiland tbh, we don't need any more Rick and Morty content, the 2 main characters and a stage is plenty.
Hell nah this is kinda disappoing
Rumbleverse is Dead.
@Exu Vittorio Yes, they announced it today
Theres controversy about everything nowadays, bunch of weirdos on Twitter that are in desperate need of a real hobby 😂
Not a fan of echo fighters
Terrible timing. Rick and morty is basically cancelled