Will Durant---The Philosophy of Plato
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- Опубліковано 4 лис 2014
- Will Durant---The Philosophy of Plato
Embark on a timeless journey into the world of Plato's philosophy, guided by the profound insights of Will Durant. In this captivating video, Durant unravels the complex tapestry of Plato's ideas, offering a deep dive into the life, works, and enduring influence of one of history's most significant philosophers.
🔍 What You'll Discover:
Introduction to Plato: Gain insights into the life and background of Plato, understanding his role as a student of Socrates and a teacher of Aristotle.
Plato's Metaphysical Realm: Explore Plato's metaphysical beliefs, including the theory of Forms (or Ideas) and the allegory of the cave, which delve into the nature of reality and human perception.
The Republic and Political Philosophy: Delve into Plato's seminal work, "The Republic," and his ideas on justice, the ideal state, and the philosopher-king.
The Socratic Method: Understand Plato's use of the Socratic method in his dialogues, which laid the foundation for philosophical inquiry and dialectical reasoning.
Influence on Western Philosophy: Discover how Plato's philosophy has left an indelible mark on Western thought, from his impact on Christian theology to his influence on modern political theory and ethics.
Contemporary Relevance: Durant examines the enduring relevance of Plato's ideas in today's discussions on ethics, education, and the pursuit of truth.
PLATO
1. 00:03 The context of Plato
2. 08:36 Socrates
3. 26:40 Preparation of Plato
4. 34:58 the ethical problem
5. 41:28 the political problem
6. 48:01 the psychological problem
7. 52:34 the psychological solution
8. 01:12:30 the political solution
9. 01:26:56 the ethical solution
10. 01:32:26 criticism
Thanks, Rocky C
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Good. Listening to a book. And other beds TV. Ugh.
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I'm 73 and been in awe of Will Durant for over 50 years now. He and his wife Arial have achieved collectively a monumental work and I would rate him as pretty much the greatest historian who ever lived. His erudite philosophical passion and analysis of the past brngs its characters, zeitgeist & thinking vividly to life.
Just picked up one his books from my shelf today, titled 'The Lessons of History' written at the end of his working life and strangely after all his efforts to understand the past he had this to say:
"Is it possible that, after all, history has no sense, that it teaches us nothing, and that the immense past was only a weary rehearsal of the mistakes that the future is destined to make on a larger stage and scale?"
Lessons of History is one of the best books ever written, imho
@delete which book of his should I start with?
Sounds like he died of indigestion.
Who after all can say ultimately there is no sense and we can understand nothing? He sounds like a madman asking such a ridiculous question. History is obviously replete with pertinent objective lessons. Of course our understanding can never be complete and all tribes of men are indefinitely fallible. So?
Very Well said in tribute, Leonson!
The dispassionate delivery is refreshing. Allows the listener to form conclusions without dramatic interference.
Exactly!
He reads The Stand by Steven King on Audible and is sooo good
Omg. This was the dude that read One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest! I listened to that audiobook like 12 times many years ago. Hi, my long lost friend!
Good analysation. You mind thinks similar to myself. With that small sample from you, I'd be bold enough to declare we draw conclusions not too disparate from one-another.
Agreed!
Me getting distracted and then seeing the face of Plato and it seems that he is saying,'Hey are u listening or not?'😂
That's true. Especially for us who here many different voices all the time. No, not the outer ones, but that would be easier to tolerate.
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The government, has a base that created molecular manipulation weapons that can cause earthquakes.
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At 55 years in age. I have longed to learn the many lessons offered/shared by the well known philosopher's. I enjoy learning a great deal. Yet I dislike reading, therefore lessons given by audio or video are beneficial for those like myself. I am extremely grateful for this share and experience. Thank you.
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I have never read such a significant series of books as a youth. As an old man, these videos remind me of all the pleasures that I felt not only in reading such a masterful reckoning of the english language but also a serious summary of all of civilization. An unbelievably masterful work! Thank you for the reminder.
I listen to your channel all the time and have not yet said thank you. Thank you.
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Postscript
Lest it be thought that my praise of Durant too extreme, let me quote something from the Wikipedia article on Boris Pasternak, author of Dr. Zhivago...at his burial, some of the gov't officials tried to cut observances short. But the common folk would have none of it. Person after person got up to eulogize a writer whose books were at that time still by and large banned in the Soviet Union. The final speech was this...
"God marks the path of the elect with thorns, and Pasternak was picked out and marked by God. He believed in eternity and he will belong to it... We excommunicated Tolstoy, we disowned Dostoevsky, and now we disown Pasternak. Everything that brings us glory we try to banish to the West... But we cannot allow this. We love Pasternak and we revere him as a poet... Glory to Pasternak!"
A "dollar-ocracy", rule by the bankers, is what America has devolved into. They bribe and blackmail politicians through AIPAC, they own the six corporations that own ALL of mainstream media - ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, etc. - and they own the universities, decide what is taught and who teaches.
And how do the bankers get all these dollars to corrupt the nation with? Why, they simply conjure them out of thin air - black magic hocus pocus - and then lend their conjured-out-of-thin-air dollars to the U.S. government AT INTEREST. Usury. Mathematically certain eternal debt. Mathematically certain ever-growing debt. Maybe it's better to call the U.S. a "usury-ocracy".
Not content to suck up all the wealth out of America through this slight of hand, this scam, they push for wars against countries that have not adopted their usurious corrupt system - Iran, Syria, Libya - until they also submit. They also earn more through the cost of war - which the government must borrow from them at interest. And through control of the military-industrial complex, i.e., selling and reselling the ridiculously overpriced weapons. That thousands of young Americans die, are maimed, are driven to suicide by PTSD, that beautiful ancient cities are destroyed and millions of locals are killed, maimed, left orphans, suffer PTSD, become America's enemies, is an insignificant detail in their overall business plan.
They consider themselves "chosen" and "gods" and consider those not of their tribe "cattle" to be milked dry and slaughtered at will. Any pushback will be met with namecalling, shaming and guilt. Masters at "gaming the system", anyone not going along with their agenda enthusiastically enough will find themselves out of a job.
Solution? Shut down the "Federal Reserve Bank" and have the treasury issue interest-free money, get money out of politics and get rid of "special interest groups" and lobbying.
Usury is the root of all evil, unearned wealth and power, arrogance through cunning manipulation of numbers and clever manipulation of emotions.
God bless America! God bless the world! Peace on earth and goodwill to all mankind!
@@wrybreadspread You said: "God marks the path of the elect with thorns". That must be the reason, then.
The more perfect a thing is the less likely it is to succeed. Those with more potential upward have that same amount downward.
This comment made me smear my shit on the walls in pure anger!
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I own the entire set of, 'The Story of Our Civilization', by Will and Ariel Durant, and you do each of those books a great respect. Thank you for your audio readings. The Durants inspired me to dig further into history, as they make history fun. It's as if one is reading a fictional account, yet they are extremely accurate. History made fun. Thank you for bringing history alive, outside of my mind. Great job, brother.
Who would've thought history could be taught in such a delightful, light, yet clear, fashion. Amazingly read, vividly described.Thank you Rocky for your channel
Durant's ability to condense vast amounts of information so concisely and beautifully is an absolute wonder. I often have to pause after reading or hearing a passage written by Durant just to marvel at the writing.
Your sentiments are exactly why we developed our upcoming course on Will Durant. Would you consider auditing the course for us? We would give you a free membership on plansip.org (50/50 plan) and mail you a free copy 'Re Imagining Plato', to be released with the course.
@@DurantandFriends sounds intradesting to me 🤔
Love what I consider to be the #1 Historian of the 20th Century. "The Story of Civilization" series is a must for anyone interested in history.
I recall a section where he mentions about when some Middle-Eastern (I believe) noble or king, after the New World was found by Middle 2nd Millenia AD Europeans, who didn't like tobacco, had given some people dried horse dung and told them it was tobacco, and they proceeded to smoke it and then ranted and raved about how good it was... Lots of little bits of stuff like this in these books.
I could listen to these books by Pulitzer Prize - winning historian Will Durant all day long ... heck, I do. All of them. Day and night. These Blackstone audio books are the perfect combination of incredibly well-written content read, in English, by an absolute master narrator in Grover Gardner. Cudos to the entire Durrant 11 Volume series.
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I was just thinking how fitting this man's voice and pronunciation are to these writings. Good stuff.
Yes... Another Alexander scoulby... Yet completely original.... ❤️❤️❤️✌️min Charles Daniel Coleman
Yeah. He’s read me many books, including Stephen King’s “The Stand.” Top tier narrator. I can abide him for many hours.
Amazing how realitive this is in today's society, 2500 years later....
If you're not aware of Will Durant, his "Story of Civilization" is brilliant, eleven volumes. He has several other excellent books.
When I was in high school I joined the Book of the Month Club and Will and Ariel Durant's 11 volume masterpiece was available for something like $3.99, with the promise to buy 5 or 6 more books. Grabbed it up. Took me over three years to read through them. 50 years later, I still have them and have read thru them several time. Truly an epic achievement in literature, history and scholarship.
My father had, and read, these volumes; after I married, my husband was reading them over the years of visiting my parents, and my father gave the set to him eventually. My son now has the set and reading it as well. I was too busy with other things through those years but discovered the readings on UA-cam. And I am hooked.
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I have the collection. So many times I referred to them for study and to assist my kids in school, now my grandchildren. The books are timeless.
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This gent reads beautifully, and at just the right pace
This was fascinating. Plato was a truly deep amd forward thinking man for his time
An idealist and an extremist.
A radical thinker with a lucid imagination.
Highly enjoyable. Thank you Will Durant
You are my go to for Will Durant. Thank you
“Woe to he who teaches men faster than they can learn.”
Know I finally understand wisdom: you never know anything.
😄YES; that little gem shone out at me also.👍
Tell all the truth but tell it slant
Success in circuit lies
Too bright for our infirm Delight
The truths superb surprise
As lightning to the children
eased with explanation kind
The truth must dazzle gradually
Else every man be blind
A template for the cornerstone of our lives.
Thank you for your channel Rocky C. ! Absolutely amazing treasure!!!
What an excellent series. I kept putting off listening but I am now hooked. It is enhanced even more by the narrator who is one of my favorites.
The time spent reading Durant's works was a year of happy reading.
this is very powerful it keeps one soul at peace and in lighting the mind and broad the bring.
Play this is gonna a you’re ya
Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle are great philosophers of the world.People could not forget them..'Universal Arrow',Kerala,India.
Hithesh Yogi how be unity of governments in civilization🐟🐙🐧 will anime eastern wisdom of all Governmental docturines to an civilization?
Hithesh Yogi he’s also the cause of many problems in our society for his totalitarian ideas
I love your stuff. Listen daily. Cheers!!!
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Thank you for posting this video. I love listening to these. Such eye opening information and wonders, and facts
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1:26:19 “Men engrossed in the pursuit of money are unfit to rule a state.” *cough cough*
Yes, this is a problem in the USA. Career politicians retire multi-millionaires. It is essentially winning the lottery and their pensions are federally guaranteed. Then they retire and do "consulting" work earning millions per year. As it stands now, D.C. is where you go to strike it rich. It is a breath of fresh air that Trump donates his salary.
Oy veh!
@@slappy8941 What, 109 countries?
If Trump were as engrossed in the pursuit of money as you (cough cough) insinuate, he would never have run for President. Why would a billionaire in his 70s give up a life of profit and relative ease to go through the drastically reduced income, burden, and torrential abuse that go with the Presidency? Wrong, sir. Wrong.
@@knpstrr
This is a universal problem.
Thanks Durant, Thanks Rocky C
Man,, how the story being told by will durrant is different than bertrand russel. When i hear this version it touches my soul and my heart.
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Love this channel.
Will and Ariel Durant wrote the best introduction to world history ever written.
Wow, the info is crammed tight on this vid. So much interesting stuff!
Extremely nutritious stuff alright.
Oh, thank you! 😍 I've been looking for this audio book for a long time.
PLATO'S CRITIQUE OF DEMOCRACY
"But even democracy ruins itself by excess-of democracy. Its basic principle is the equal right of all to hold office and determine public policy. This is at first glance a delightful
arrangement; it becomes disastrous because the people are not properly equipped by education to select the best rulers and the wisest courses. As to the people they have no understanding, and only repeat what their rulers are pleased to tell them. To get a doctrine accepted or rejected it is only necessary to have it praised or ridiculed... Mob-rule is a rough sea for the ship of state to ride; every wind of oratory stirs up the waters and deflects the course. The upshot of such a democracy is tyranny or autocracy; the crowd do loves flattery, it is so 'hungry for honey', that at last the tdliest and most unscrupulous flatterer, calling himself the 'protector of the people' rises to supreme power." - Plato.
The more Plato thinks of it, the more astounded he is at the folly of leaving to mob caprice and gullibility the selection of political officials-not to speak of leaving it to those shady and wealth-serving strategists who pull the oligarchic wires behind the democratic stage. Plato complains that whereas in simpler matters-like shoe-making-we think only
a specially-trained person will serve our purpose, in politics we presume that every one who knows how to get votes knows how to administer a city or a state. When we are ill we call for a trained physician, whose degree is a guarantee of specific preparation and technical competence-we do not ask for the handsomest physician, or the most eloquent one; well then, when the whole state is ill should we not look for the service and guidance of the wisest and the best? To devise a method of barring incompetence and knavery from public office, and of selecting and preparing the best to rule for the common
good-that is the problem of political philosophy.
"But behind these political problems lies the nature of man; to understand politics, we must understand psychology. Like man, like state; governments vary as the characters of men vary ; . . , states are made out of the human natures which are in them; the state is what it is because its citizens are what they are. Therefore we need not expect to have better states until we have better men; till then all changes will leave every essential thing unchanged." - Plato.
Sarcastic Towelie how be numbering of particles 🐨🐯 of the realms and dominions governments and nature o there is what ?
more people in america and democratic countries need to read this section.
scratch that, more people need to read Will Durant in general
Sarcastic Towelie the aristocracy is bending us in the US over a barrel right now though
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
To keep myself from Boredom, I imagine this guy is Clank
from Ratchet and Clank Explaining all of this to me.
check out J Peterman clips from Seinfeld here on UA-cam, He's hilarious.
Thanks for uploading!
Thank you for this great upload.
How did I fall into such a pearl?
How unfortunate that the modern school system has forgotten the lessons taught to us by Plato.
Wrong
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Forgotten or excluded?
I learned about Plato in school... wth are you talking about?
I am 15 and thus video helps me sm to read my frst non fiction book. I am the point of questioning everything I won't say imma philosopher but the topic of internal philosophy to understand oneself bfr the world has intrigued me. And this video helps me read the big words which I do not under or can pronounce. I am using google to understand the stuff I don't understand. But this sure helps me read the book a lot and hopefully in future I won't need these videos to read properly.
If I could go back I wouldn't smoke weed at age 14,15. By 16 while formerly a top-notch student at these, I could no longer fathom math and science. (I am now 66; I went on in the arts). Please wait if you want to experiment with this kind of thing until your brain is fully formed, dear--age 22 or so. Meanwhile, whether you take my caution or not, best of luck with your reading and study of philosophy. . .There's indeed no shame in being so creative as to access audio books--and the writings of Will and Ariel Durant on audio are a treasure trove, making so much accessible to so many.
Thank you man! For all this!
This is rad. Thank you.
I say rad too that’s so rad and extreme
Can I just say that ( even as a Brit) I find a North American accent
extremely pleasant to listen to . There seems to be an element of accent
" snobbery " in certain videos : unfortunately many Brits haven't realised
that they DON'T all sound like James Mason or Olivier ! !
Damn, this was really good.
great reader... he did alot of books-on-tape in the last century. many different wonderful nomes d lectur...
This was great; I just wish there was information on his theory of forms. I find that fascinating.
A wonderful contextualisation of Plato and the implications of his work and life. Highly appreciated and recommended, indeed philosophy is the channel upon which all rivers must flow in their path to the endless sea of meaning and purpose.
What a mind! Informative and entertaining. I sleep listening to these.
Will Durant's book THE STORY OF PHILOSOPHY is among the most enjoyable and informative books I have read. It was recommended to me by a high school teacher. ( Another Great book is THE STORY OF MANKIND by Hendrik Van Loon.)
Fantastic share. Easy to follow and understand. Should be incorporated into the curriculum of today's elementary/adolescent students educational experience. Opening young minds at an early age. Might lead to a more insightful and beneficial take on education and life's challenges.
I think that Plato was the greatest mind to have ever lived. It's been said, - that all revelations in thought are merely footnotes to Plato.
Possibly,, in western Europeans culture. But not "EVER".., He was fortunate to LEARN, from Socrates, who was also thought by the " Great African EGYPTIANS ancestors " ...everyone leave's blank!! There's no CIVILIZATION,, as we know it today without them!! History... Borrowed/ Stolen/ and plagiarized as their own!!!!
Sorry!!
Great book, excellent narration (I think this voice actor also read 'the Name of the Rose).' Thank you for posting.
Hi folks , thanks rocky , how come i never heard of Durrant ,is he not appreciated in America, i listen to many up loads, brings 0nes mind back to my earlier self . What? My mind is stimulated refreshed , remembering. I like to go slow ,have a smoke and coffee , wheres his critics , surely there's some. Anyway ,i do wish i discovered him much earlier ,kind regards from an open mind. S B 4am saturday.
Durant was a graduate of Saint Peter's College, a Jesuit school in Jersey City, New Jersey........now St. Peter's University.
Wow!! What a podcast! Congratulations and thank you so
Much!
Glad you enjoyed it! Our media outlet is planksip.org and our other UA-cam channel is @planksip.
Beautiful
Having peeped at comments am relaxing into a good listen.
Very nice historical and philosophical analysis!
This is great, i have this book but its nice to have the audio version as well!
MarcusAurelius13 who has a infinity of Questions?
What book is it?
the man of wisdom ' unused by the world' , story of my life
Need visuals of places being talked about and maps and people.☺️💕
I do agree but also nice that it doesn't have that so it's not distracting from the message.
This is 🔥 content
Wow, this is good stuff!
Listening to this No wonder were are doomed, that’s been and is our destiny all along....
Mankind’s 3,000 years of recorded history is in reality very, very short. Man hasn’t learned much, if anything meaningful at all. The Bible is our highest source of knowledge about God and Godliness, which is the last thing people want, and which is the most essential thing people need.
“There is a way that seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death.” - PROVERBS
My appreciation Sir!
Thank you.
Plato staring through my soul😊
his gaze met a horizon so distant, the sights he saw surround us today
Philosophers, back then, ate cheese, onions, olives, cabbages and wheat. Health eating!
Axmed Bahjad Oh
Axmed Bahjad Yea i respect them but even Seneca, Marcus Auralious and some others... they just had health problems.... but at the same time NO ONE really new about nutrition at all back then. There was no solid science back then.
+Axmed Bahjad could you imagine the gas ? boiled Onions and Cabbage with wheat cakes ?
Axmed Bahjad I doubt though they had cheese in those days. It was probably thick milk rather than halloumi.
Yes, they ate food. What's your point?
Men engrossed in the unseemly pursuit of power,having no control over their passion,make us the victims of that passion.All philosophy must be about character,or religious prejudice becomes the norm.
"..Reeking with modernity and contemporary savour."Find the wisest amongst us and nominate them to office.
thanks for sharing
Thank you
Amazing
Excellent.
Indeed, thank you:)
badass!
*Awesome Channel* 👍
Please don't stop uploading
great video
Klasse! Danke schön!🙂
IM views for a philosopher! It is a testament to a man still winning admirers!
Absolutely!
Good philosopher
perfect
I just BELIEVE anybody who thinks human beings are weak or stupid has never listened to this information about themselves.
Plato is a God! He caught the essence of human nature
You hit the nail on the head . Plato is the god !
Can only remember this as a series of books, never got into 'books on tape' or the like. I love to read since i was given the opportunity to love to learn & to love HOW to learn. Montessori school instead of kindergarten for 2 (or maybe 3 yrs.) so when I went to public school, I could read, write, multiply, divide, they said I was already at a 5th-6th grade level. I became essentially an autodidact & the academic aspect of school was awful until i went to college, but I developed an erratic self-discipline & was an attention-seeker, it wasn't good, except I learned to be funny (like a class clown, as public school bored me & I had a bad attitude) & to help others ( did wind up working w/ various less-fortunate populations, people w/ autism & other issues) .
I would be honored to be liberated from the chains of ignorance that restrains me from knowing myself ,to properly understand any significance my internal identity could reveal as reality.
Never did I realize the authoritative absolutist tone of Plato as being so similar to "1984".
What one rejoices can be another's great fear.
Plato and the Pythagoreans were responsible for the Dark Ages, they destroyed their Scientific Method which wasn’t discovered again for over 2000 years
That account of Socrates death was intense. I wonder how accurate it is.
Ben DeVeny The wikipedia page on hemlock talks about this some. It says that the account is accurate so far as what death from the poison is like.
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Hi Ben - I looked it up. Doesn't sound like a "good" death.
Poison hemlock
Nausea and vomiting
Headache
Abdominal pain
Altered mental status
Seizures
Weakness
Respiratory failure
Poison hemlock: Signs of poison hemlock toxicity can be divided into an early stimulation phase and, in severe poisonings, a later depressant phase.
Emesis [means vomiting]
Salivation [drooling]
Mydriasis [means excessive dilation of pupils]
Tachycardia, [heart palpitations] then bradycardia[abnormally slow heartbeat]
Initial fasciculations [small muscle twitches all over the body], then flaccid paralysis
Hypoventilation [can't breathe], respiratory arrest
Does it matter ,the story is stronger than mere facts.take what you can from life.
@Jimmy Johnston 311 was an inside job
*Can you upload Will Durant's, **_The Age of Obama, Trump and Biden_** ? Thanks.*
Appreciate it very much!
Which of his books is this taken from?
+Rocky C Thank you very much Rocky.