From PayPal Intern to Starting 4x Billion-Dollar Companies - Joe Lonsdale Interview

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  • Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
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    Episode 578: Shaan Puri ( / shaanvp ) sits down with Joe Lonsdale ( / jtlonsdale ) to talk about how he leveraged one internship at PayPal into one billion dollar success after another. Today Joe is Managing Partner of 8VC and an early investor in Anduril.
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    Show Notes:
    (0:00) The One Reason strategy
    (3:18) Learning Global Macro Finance from Peter Thiel
    (5:35) Taking multi-million dollar bets at 4:30am
    (8:43) Hire for raw IQ over expertise
    (10:33) Nurturing employees into unicorn founders
    (12:24) Solving hard problems with Addepar
    (13:53) Always “Being on”
    (15:32) How to spot opportunities for new businesses
    (21:10) How Epirus landed a military defense contract
    (27:09) Getting hits in hard domains
    (28:24) Business Idea: AI-powered Estate Planning
    (29:19) Business Idea: Business Process Outsourcing for local government
    (30:58) Big swings vs. base hits
    (31:49) Idea vs. execution
    (32:38) Focus vs. diversity of thought/attention
    (33:33) Insights from Elon’s inner circle
    (35:36) Joe Lonsdale’s unfair advantages
    (38:48) How to invest your time to make your first $1M
    (40:40) Working on an A+ problem as an intern at PayPal
    (43:15) Be within 2 standard deviations of top talent
    (44:14) Early days at Palantir
    (46:56) Building a top engineering culture
    (48:31) Borrowing trust as 21-year old defense contractor
    (52:22) Peter Thiel’s biggest contrarian bet
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    Links:
    • Joe's Twitter - / jtlonsdale
    • Joe's blog - blog.joelonsdale.com/
    • Joe's podcast - www.americanoptimist.com/
    • 8VC - www.8vc.com/
    • Addepar - addepar.com/
    • Palantir - www.palantir.com/
    • Epirus- www.epirusinc.com/
    • OpenGov - opengov.com/
    • Prologis - www.prologis.com/
    • Lessons from Peter Thiel - joelonsdale.com/lessons-peter...
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    Check Out Shaan's Stuff:
    Need to hire? You should use the same service Shaan uses to hire developers, designers, & Virtual Assistants → it’s called Shepherd (tell ‘em Shaan sent you): bit.ly/SupportShepherd
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    Check Out Sam's Stuff:
    • Hampton - www.joinhampton.com/
    • Ideation Bootcamp - www.ideationbootcamp.co/
    • Copy That - copythat.com
    • Hampton Wealth Survey - joinhampton.com/wealth
    My First Million is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Arie Desormeaux // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

КОМЕНТАРІ • 177

  • @AmericanOptimist
    @AmericanOptimist Місяць тому +10

    Shaan and Ben crushed it, as usual. Awesome to see all the research and hard work that goes into each episode. Thanks for a great conversation!

  • @MurphDeVane
    @MurphDeVane Місяць тому +40

    This Shaan travel pod arc is legendary.

  • @justinpfortier
    @justinpfortier Місяць тому +50

    One of the best interview episodes on this pod ever

    • @sutats
      @sutats Місяць тому

      Let's see how Sam does it.

  • @jonathanedward5062
    @jonathanedward5062 Місяць тому +36

    Had to check if I accidentally put playback speed on 1.25x. Nope, he actually talks super fast.
    Very interesting. He likes himself a lot, but he talks about cool stuff.

    • @ryanbresler1674
      @ryanbresler1674 Місяць тому

      dude is not sober in this interview lol. his face is twitching around too. he did a little something something before this one IMO

    • @krisb-travel
      @krisb-travel Місяць тому +1

      He looks sober to me, I live in this world of entrepreneurs and traders, plenty of guys talk fast and look like they’re tweaking but it’s just the excitement and flood of ideas hitting their brain.

    • @ryanbresler1674
      @ryanbresler1674 Місяць тому

      @@krisb-travel i also live in this world, and used to party. he's got the sniffles, fidgeting, and doing weird things with his face the entire interview. he's like 4/4in "this guy might be on drugs" intro checklist
      of course, we'll never know, but i'd put money that he's on a little somehting somethin

    • @krisb-travel
      @krisb-travel Місяць тому

      @@ryanbresler1674 definitely possible, its honestly hard to tell with some of these guys.

    • @alexvech
      @alexvech Місяць тому

      @@ryanbresler1674just look at how he’s touching the nose

  • @10000Mistakes
    @10000Mistakes Місяць тому +24

    Holy cow, does he talk fast... and each sentence is wisdom. Dude is next level. Been following Karp for a while but this is first interview with Lonsdale I've seen. Great job Saan... now get back to helping us normies get our first million, haha.

  • @bahram_t
    @bahram_t Місяць тому +1

    You guys are clearly professionalizing the channel w/ the more consistent thumbnails etc- great stuff Sam & Shaan

  • @adamk8724
    @adamk8724 Місяць тому +139

    3 camera setup, old money decoration in the back, is it a premium episode or what? 😂

    • @josemelo_97
      @josemelo_97 Місяць тому +12

      I never noticed we had paid for the premium subscription 😂

    • @jbrowse09
      @jbrowse09 Місяць тому +8

      It must be apart of the gentlemen’s agreement haha

    • @HighResGlassPics
      @HighResGlassPics Місяць тому +7

      Pretty sure the old world background is his house. Shaan mentions a cold plunge I doubt they were doing that somewhere random.

    • @cldtcts
      @cldtcts Місяць тому

      ​@@josemelo_97 we're on the trial

    • @famousatmidnight15
      @famousatmidnight15 Місяць тому +1

      What’s with the water bottles, needs glasses of cognac

  • @Globalnnoble
    @Globalnnoble Місяць тому +14

    Loving the consistency

  • @ContactBrand
    @ContactBrand Місяць тому +8

    Love these different location in person interviews.

  • @RichEdwards
    @RichEdwards Місяць тому +2

    Another level up episode for Shaan! Great job.

  • @user-to4ej6ji1q
    @user-to4ej6ji1q Місяць тому +1

    you are by far the best person explaining binary options! Thank you for putting these videos together. I look forward every week to see your videos!

  • @ryanjjones
    @ryanjjones Місяць тому +2

    Shaan is DOMINATING that table. ;) Love you man

  • @andrewheeps3981
    @andrewheeps3981 Місяць тому

    Great interview- would love to see more of these.

  • @kimdejot
    @kimdejot Місяць тому +3

    Jesus this guy is so intense! I can't listen to this podcast in the background because the speed and insight with which he drops things is crazy. Wow!

  • @davidkincade
    @davidkincade Місяць тому

    Thank you for an excellent interview. Really inspiring.

  • @doehillarious2819
    @doehillarious2819 Місяць тому +2

    after almost an hour it felt like there's so much more to lern from Joe

    • @johnvonleibniz
      @johnvonleibniz 29 днів тому +1

      He's definitely an underrated Founder/VC.

  • @chriscarlton9777
    @chriscarlton9777 Місяць тому

    One of the best episodes yet

  • @titocosta
    @titocosta Місяць тому +1

    Great interview, amazing job to both! Joe super insightful thank you

  • @richhands5269
    @richhands5269 Місяць тому +14

    My three favorite channels: My First Million, Stock Brotha, & How Money Works. Make my week complete! 🔥 🔥 🔥

    • @angelocean365
      @angelocean365 Місяць тому +1

      Thanks. Im going to check out Stock Brotha and How Money Works. If they are amazing as this channel then Im in for a long weekend catching up ;-)

  • @nessci2355
    @nessci2355 Місяць тому

    been listening to the pod for a while but this is my first time seeing a video

  • @GalTesler1
    @GalTesler1 Місяць тому +17

    had to triple-check my phone to make sure it wasn't on 2x playback speed

    • @pensionfi
      @pensionfi Місяць тому

      Lol payed on lower speed

    • @RJ.CreativeStudios
      @RJ.CreativeStudios Місяць тому

      😂

    • @ryanbresler1674
      @ryanbresler1674 Місяць тому +4

      think dude is yoked lol. his face is twitching a lot too if you're not watching

  • @memyselfid
    @memyselfid Місяць тому

    Thanks Shaan for these Austin sessions, they got me through a day of boring bug testing. Just noticed the same outfit in multiple vids, so props for banging out multiple remarkable interviews in one day. But If you went full Steve Jobs and wore the same outfit the whole trip, and that's the outfit you chose, props to that as well. Keep that freak flag fluttering

  • @Ability-Plus
    @Ability-Plus Місяць тому +1

    James Sinclair recommended this on his podcast. This is talking business at another level. 👍

  • @aminbusiness3139
    @aminbusiness3139 Місяць тому

    Thank you , enjoyed this one . Looking forward to the Mohnish interview

  • @Drackomass
    @Drackomass Місяць тому +1

    Such an information dense episode.

  • @faisalislam9840
    @faisalislam9840 Місяць тому

    Looking forward to this one

  • @480brad
    @480brad Місяць тому

    One be of the best episodes ever!

  • @HJAWutube
    @HJAWutube Місяць тому

    That was great. Thx so much.

  • @lonamisa_
    @lonamisa_ Місяць тому +12

    Introducing the My First Billy series…

  • @4kVisionx
    @4kVisionx Місяць тому +1

    The entrepreneurial spirit lives strong in my man Joe

  • @rickmavroudis3978
    @rickmavroudis3978 Місяць тому +2

    Ben is probably the reason so many silicone valley guys can't stop the Adderall.
    Best episode so far. Thanks for the conversation, Shaan!

  • @wisamey
    @wisamey Місяць тому +1

    The only podcast that i thought about playing it on 0.75x!

  • @enfiestado
    @enfiestado Місяць тому +3

    Every time I think you guys have released the best episode ever, you still manage to top it

  • @Stopwars0809
    @Stopwars0809 27 днів тому

    Shaan. Holy sh--! You really brought your A-game to this one. Ty!

  • @marc-gregory-knowles
    @marc-gregory-knowles Місяць тому +2

    Production is dope.

  • @ST5S5
    @ST5S5 Місяць тому

    🔥 episode

  • @agoysy
    @agoysy Місяць тому +1

    You can tell this dude is intelligent. I have to SLOWER the video to understand his points

  • @EcomCarl
    @EcomCarl Місяць тому +1

    Sean's insights on avoiding a "blended strategy" and focusing on one strong reason for success are spot on! Remember, clarity and focus are the pillars of successful entrepreneurship. 🔍

  • @TheWarmDown_MMA
    @TheWarmDown_MMA Місяць тому +43

    Lesson 1: Have connections to one of the world’s richest men. Lesson 2: use that guys cash to build something huge

    • @sidm3859
      @sidm3859 Місяць тому +9

      easy to say that. i think its deeper than that

    • @user-rf4qx8md9r
      @user-rf4qx8md9r Місяць тому +6

      You wouldnt make it even if you had the connections

    • @screwthisite
      @screwthisite Місяць тому

      @@user-rf4qx8md9r many other guys have connections to EM/Peter Thiel. I'd peg count at 10-50 folks at least.
      We should give credit where due. This guy is a rockstar

    • @views40
      @views40 Місяць тому +5

      Let's ask ourselves how we are similar to Joe, not how we are different. Mentally putting distance between us an others is how we turn off the learning and pattern-recognition mechanisms. Yes, Joe Lonsdale is an outlier, but there is so much we can learn still. Onwards and upwards 💪

    • @corail53
      @corail53 Місяць тому

      @@sidm3859 It really isn't. This guy rides coat tails and then just leverages his money into connections he has made. Anyone who had been in his place would have been able to repeat this.

  • @TalesOfTrillions
    @TalesOfTrillions Місяць тому

    The discussion on focus vs. diversity of ventures really got me thinking. Who else agrees that sometimes, it's about finding the balance?

  • @ericlamideas
    @ericlamideas Місяць тому +1

    this guy is on another level holy s**t

  • @subem81
    @subem81 Місяць тому

    This is fantastic, but the audio levels are all jacked up and make it difficult to listen to without having to constantly manage volume manually.
    Amazing content though.

  • @ShailPM
    @ShailPM Місяць тому

    liking this location

  • @tanicwhisper0647
    @tanicwhisper0647 Місяць тому

    It’s been a minute since i’ve seen yall on my home page.

  • @asken5139
    @asken5139 Місяць тому +2

    way better than the tim ferris episode! This one is full of curiosity from both parties. It feels like you are equals. The feriss one felt desperate.

    • @stufigol
      @stufigol Місяць тому

      agree. Tim Ferris was very high level

    • @corail53
      @corail53 Місяць тому

      Tim ferris is a con man who got rich selling a book of basic info. He then over charges for his speaking circuit and has not produced anything of value.

  • @chan90s
    @chan90s Місяць тому +2

    I'm listening at 1.75x, my usual speed. But this guy speaks fast

  • @mknick89
    @mknick89 Місяць тому +1

    It's funny how when someone enjoyed something how fast they talk

  • @abhipatil4844
    @abhipatil4844 Місяць тому +1

    Awesome

  • @jasperflontes4289
    @jasperflontes4289 Місяць тому +3

    My advice to everyone is this : if you want to grow big this year especially in your finances. Be willing to take risks. Saving is great but taking risks puts you on a pedestal where you wouldnt have to worry about savings as you do now. Thanks to larysa Caba, my portolio is doing really great and im proud of the decisions i made last year.

  • @sam1323123
    @sam1323123 Місяць тому +1

    It’s like they’re having a contest on who talks the fastest.

  • @awh4272
    @awh4272 Місяць тому

    4:19 - global macro fund story of bets at 4am
    41:40 - solve the big A+ problem
    49:25 - casting

  • @austinwheeler6234
    @austinwheeler6234 Місяць тому +1

    What's up with the video feed of Joe? It looks like 12 fps. It's a little distracting.

  • @NicholasPalance
    @NicholasPalance Місяць тому +2

    Fantastic interview!

  • @jamesmcginn6291
    @jamesmcginn6291 Місяць тому

    Now Palantir makes perfect sense to me. Great episode. Special thanks to Joe for being so generous with this information.

  • @pulzytv9550
    @pulzytv9550 Місяць тому +1

    Cmon man, all this setup & you couldn’t add subtitles to the video? I’m having difficulties hearing what he’s saying

  • @MrVito1180
    @MrVito1180 Місяць тому +1

    I see PLTR, i just click LIKE automatically

    • @corail53
      @corail53 Місяць тому

      Why? You like having closed source big data being pretty much only sold to giant tech and governments? Or are you just a palatard who is obsessed with the stock despite it having crashed from 25$ down to 7$ and now not even back to 25$ which was a constant but not ath?

  • @MarioHernandez-np9pb
    @MarioHernandez-np9pb Місяць тому

    🔥🔥

  • @awh4272
    @awh4272 Місяць тому

    49:25 - srs question. How do I get help with casting? I have a product that has made millions of dollars in sales for clients at a low level and has potential for 9 figs of sales/savings at a higher lever but I don't know anyone at a higher level who will sit and take me seriously! How can I even start with this?

  • @raeroms9589
    @raeroms9589 Місяць тому +9

    This guy snufs something. Count the number of times he rubs his nose 😅

  • @TheOGDesigner
    @TheOGDesigner Місяць тому

    Bro this thing looks like a movie!

  • @GauravSharma1
    @GauravSharma1 Місяць тому +1

    One of the best MFM episodes! Joe is awesome.🔥

  • @NicholasPalance
    @NicholasPalance Місяць тому +1

    Is Joe’s “9 Things I Learned from Theil” paper publicly available?

  • @paulmcguire3495
    @paulmcguire3495 Місяць тому +4

    Gotta say,,, absolutely love everything you guys have done with MFM. But these really high level convos are not my fav, not the most engaging content ever, and pretty hard to relate to. (I switched off pretty quickly).
    Give me a gritty, start-up story any day. (Relatable).
    Sorry, still love and appreciate everything MFM. ❤

  • @jb_kc__
    @jb_kc__ Місяць тому +1

    only guy i've ever listened to that i had to 1x instead of 2x the video 🤣

    • @s4lino
      @s4lino Місяць тому

      you do want to listen to billion dollar company guy and not million right? in this lifetime? of course you got to listen faster or think faster or reiterate faster like his networking power, he still got the chess nerd speech and mouth movement thang.

  • @DerekJarmicki
    @DerekJarmicki Місяць тому +2

    MFM The Neckbeard nation inspiration station!

  • @thegrowaveagency4833
    @thegrowaveagency4833 Місяць тому

    I'm exactly like him

  • @Justsomeguy492
    @Justsomeguy492 Місяць тому +7

    Hard to relate to. He comes with business ideas talking to his connections which are all successful business people, and then makes 10 person AI team to solve problem. Not really applicable to 99% of people watching this

    • @crpunks
      @crpunks Місяць тому

      Make it 99.999%

  • @california94538
    @california94538 Місяць тому +1

    Went to high school with this gentleman. Great to see him on the show!

    • @GaryRabatin
      @GaryRabatin Місяць тому +1

      Gave birth with this gentlemen. Great to see him on the show.

    • @marvinvalencia6765
      @marvinvalencia6765 Місяць тому +2

      Im his roommate
      . Great to see him on the show!

    • @skyhappy
      @skyhappy Місяць тому +2

      I'm his dog. Great to see him on the show!

    • @crpunks
      @crpunks Місяць тому +3

      I’m his landlord, great to see him on the show.

  • @K12war
    @K12war Місяць тому +2

    How to be successful: be born to the right parents. End of story.

  • @divdac
    @divdac Місяць тому +2

    First podcast I've had to put it on 0.75x speed. Shaan went full Ben Shapiro

  • @dereklamle4119
    @dereklamle4119 Місяць тому +1

    Interesting guy - oozes confidence , talks a bit fast, not everyone’s cup of tea. He’s probably fine with it

  • @jsanford01
    @jsanford01 Місяць тому

    Cold plunge? What about vacation with family??

  • @tomha9884
    @tomha9884 Місяць тому

    Look at the beggining of the podcast when he talks about the celebration he outs his hands on his nose and sniffs then quickly moves on to talk about going to thier favorite breakfest place.

  • @jondonron
    @jondonron Місяць тому +1

    do a podcast with alex karp

  • @HighResGlassPics
    @HighResGlassPics Місяць тому

    This is a "save it, and watch again episode".

  • @HereForChess
    @HereForChess Місяць тому

    5 stars

  • @boxingesq.236
    @boxingesq.236 Місяць тому

    I rather hire for talent, ambition, and Hardrock. Truth

  • @shoaibriz
    @shoaibriz Місяць тому +5

    He speaks so fast

  • @JorgeL1
    @JorgeL1 Місяць тому

    Excellent episode 🔥

  • @romeomartinez399
    @romeomartinez399 Місяць тому

    This was an incredible conversation, keep up the great work!!

  • @ThinkingWithGod
    @ThinkingWithGod Місяць тому

    We don’t lack ideas, we don’t lack money, we lack really talented hardworking people with persistence…
    -Joe Lonsdale

    • @s4lino
      @s4lino Місяць тому

      I am guessing to get talented hardworking people with persistence aka super horse on super endurance or AAA humans you do need a mission statement as big as Def Con / Make Murica Awesome/Awesome Again / Save the World or Make it better in people feelable ways? I think only dough'alot and ideology drives people to greatness aka inking your company logo to your forearm type conviction....though timing (what year birth to graduate with the class of who's who of society), survival of oneself/autonomy then compounding from sustainment to greatness seem to be the path....most get stuck at the sustainment portion possibly due to timing? Though if we were all great then who will be the employees that are the foundations of the pyramid? So the timing test has sifted that for society at point in time?

  • @Juan-ws9sy
    @Juan-ws9sy Місяць тому

    This was an amazing conversation

  • @Mespo300
    @Mespo300 Місяць тому +1

    This dude talks so fast I had to check my Spotify app 3x to make sure it wasn’t on 2x speed.

  • @AndresSeeman
    @AndresSeeman 16 днів тому

    I used 0.75 playback speed to listen this podcast

  • @digitalsoulopreneur
    @digitalsoulopreneur Місяць тому

    Summary plz

  • @kennyleaver
    @kennyleaver Місяць тому +1

    time to rename the show.. "My First Billion" :)

  • @Mfgguy
    @Mfgguy Місяць тому

    Packed with solid wisdom. Thank you Joe for sharing with us.

  • @ListenMySon
    @ListenMySon Місяць тому

    I'm quite amazed that no one in this space talks how Elon is CIA? Screenshot this bros.

  • @idabrinck-lund9744
    @idabrinck-lund9744 Місяць тому

    Sit on the other side…. Shawn!!! Look at almost ALL tv programs

  • @metaversenft
    @metaversenft Місяць тому +6

    Guy is coked to the gills, fast speaking and powerful lol.

    • @zaraka2
      @zaraka2 Місяць тому

      Had the same thought, started looking for this comment

    • @sp500-steph7
      @sp500-steph7 Місяць тому

      licks his lips way to often

  • @IanHobday
    @IanHobday Місяць тому

    Hope that Google buying Hubspot doesn't impact my favorite podcast...

  • @FragShackGamers
    @FragShackGamers Місяць тому +1

    what do i win?

    • @maxdrut
      @maxdrut Місяць тому

      Some internet points

  • @kevykev2
    @kevykev2 Місяць тому +1

    This is what the best minds are doing lol

  • @KCAATV
    @KCAATV Місяць тому +2

    I can't listen as fast as this dude talks. He is the classic example of a "fast talker" which is a personality trait that is not always an asset.

    • @dannyquiroz5777
      @dannyquiroz5777 Місяць тому

      Use UA-cam settings to kick it down to 0.75

    • @corail53
      @corail53 Місяць тому

      @@hyperadapted Con man.

  • @antoniocollins
    @antoniocollins Місяць тому

    8.6

  • @chan90s
    @chan90s Місяць тому

    This guy sounds like Peter Thiel

  • @TheEamonKeane
    @TheEamonKeane Місяць тому

    This guy's brain runs hotter for sure. Reminds me of Balaji

  • @PrivacyDefend
    @PrivacyDefend Місяць тому

    This dude talks EXACTLY like Peter thiel

  • @cheltondebeer9702
    @cheltondebeer9702 Місяць тому

    Turn of sound and look at Shaan's body language. He looks like Jonah hill on 21 jump street

  • @asken5139
    @asken5139 Місяць тому

    47:50: "I was lucky to grow up with national chess and math champions". Outlier.