When I was at my heaviest, my mom sent me to a clinic that offered group therapies and diet plans for obese people. We met once a month, and in group therapies, we didn’t talk about food, how much we hated our bodies, or anything like that. Instead, we discussed things like losing loved ones, stress from work or college, troubling family lives, and so on. All the obese people there had found comfort in food, and that’s why it got out of control. Just like some people turn to alcohol or drugs, food addiction is different because it’s immediately noticeable and one of the hardest to overcome. At 24, I had just lost my dear grandma and father. At the same time, I was finishing college and starting my career. You could say I was dealing with a lot at that time, and the only joy in my life was eating a big meal. It made me feel drowsy and mellow at the end of the day, helping me escape the sadness and stress I was constantly feeling.
@@MorganHyde-ie5runah, it’s just a coping mechanism, when I was at my lowest I was the opposite, I found comfort in having control over what I ate and pretty much challenging myself in everything, that turned into anorexia and I definitely wasn’t healthy, I was working out over 3 hours a day and eating little to no food, was I lazy? No. Does that mean I was healthy and doing it for the right reasons? No. Not everything is an excuse, and in my personal case I feel more healthy now that I don’t work out as much, does that make me lazy at all? No. The person that commented was def trying, because if she/he was going to therapy it means they were trying to change, step by step, that’s not putting excuses.
As an ex obese man, it is a conscious, or sub-conscious, choice to be obese. It's really whether you recognize it as a problem and decide to change it.
@@maelys3630 You may not be able to control the fact that you have it, but it is still your responsibility to manage it. You can work to overcome it and try to minimize it's impact on your health and lifestyle. I also have health issues caused by genetics that I can't control but I get up every day and focus on maintaining a healthy lifestyle despite those issues.
14:39 Mitch is so insufferable. People don’t talk about mental health in 3rd world countries because the are struggling to get the basics like food, water, and shelter. It’s maslow’s hierarchy of needs, not a relative measure of importance
Only in United States people deal with mental health! There’s people with bigger problems everywhere like he said. And the government pushes that shit on society and becomes a thing now
Watching this again and realizing that the editing is on point. When man says he would never be that guy immediately after saying he bullied his brother for years.
@@benyo3622I observed this as well and he honestly doesn’t strike me as fit but rather someone who occasionally lifts and wears clothing that is too tight
"I was fatshaming him my whole life" - so fatshaming didnt have any positive impact on his brothers physique at all but he kept going instead of choosing a different approach, what a guy
@yannickburger9832 Mitch is a former Navy Seal/MMA champion. He is built different. Obesity should be shamed as much as it should be normalized: 0. But bullying has always been humanitys tool to avoid normalizing disadvantageous behaviour
@@MASFTV1 Love people like you. Need more people like you, and to stop coddling and enabling people that live that life style to the point they're waddling.
As a formerly obese person it's a choice but it's also VERY hard to change that lifestyle. Id say it was easier to quit drinking alcohol and weed than changing the diet.
Yeah, people gotta respect that it's basically a large set of skills and habits that have to be learned. 99.99% of the people who are harsh and black-and-white about it have never been seriously overweight and didn't grow up that way.
That one guy in the panel is the exact reason why some people are scared to take the first step in their fitness journey. Because guys like him make them feel like they don't have a place.
1:57 "I'm on team free, only because right now it benefits me. Just because it's nice, doesn't mean necessarily that it's something that I'm entitled to" My man is speaking facts 👏🏼👏🏼
@@heythereimkevin they should absolutely. It was their choice to get that big and extreme bodybuilding can also be unhealthy despite it being very attractive compared to fat people
@@heythereimkevini dont get what youre trying to prove here smally. 300 lbs bodybuilders are also unhealthy since theyre most likely on roids. So theres no need to address your insecurities.
8:16 forgets to mention he quit his job, lived at home supported by his parents, and was taking a drug protocol costing around $3k usd a month to lose all that weight
@@samv284 That's like saying "Jimothy goes on all these shows spreading the gospel about how putting all his cash in a hot tub made it double over a month, and I don't think it's dishonest because if you watch his show, he explains that his parents threw more cash into the hot tub every night."
It's the same as asking if drug addiction is a choice, and the answer is "it's complicated". Healthy rats in a natural environment won't consume cocaine if offered, but every single rat that was removed from their mother after a week being born took it. It's epigenetics, genetics and environment. But that doesn't mean you can't change or choose to be healthy
any addiction was a choice the very first so regardless of what you say ur wrong an made a horrible choice to do a drug so yes its a choice an ur fault plain n simple
As someone who has been fat up until the age of 16, then became very skinny, and then got really muscular in my 20’s (30 now) I think I can honestly answer the question. I’ve been on both sides. The answer is yes AND no. Everyone knows that a calorie is a calorie, and you can’t argue with math and physics. No one else controls your hand and makes you put a hamburger in your mouth. BUT, what people forget, is that your relationship with food is so deeply hardwired into your habits, that it’s simply a lot more complicated. I have found that almost everyone who eats too much/compulsively has some sort of emotion they can’t seem to deal with: fear, loneliness, feeling disconnected, low self esteem. Eating is by default a way to cope with some type of emotion.
A calorie actually isn’t a calorie when it comes to your health. You should see what eating the same amount of daily calories on a no sugar diet compared to the same amount of calories on a moderate sugar diet does to your body and health.
Wow Jesse, I’m truly moved by the video. I live in Germany, and I’ve been to the U.S. a few times to visit family, which made me notice the extent of obesity that some of the people I saw were dealing with. It really got me thinking, especially because I work as a nurse and have a background in sports science, so I’m very interested in movement and health. I think the topic is very complex, and your video really highlights that. I think it’s incredibly powerful that you included voices from those affected in your video. I also really appreciate how you emphasize a nuanced perspective throughout. Truly impressive-sending so much love to you and everyone featured in the video ❤️
I have dropped from 250lbs to 170lbs in last 14 months just by following your videos and meal plan from Onlymeal. You have the best and most interesting content on YT. The people who want to lose fat, just need to find motivation... Keep going strong with your stuff.
Two things can be true at the same time. Someone on steroids pointing out the fact that someone obese is unhealthy isn't any less true because they're taking steroids which is harmful as well. The statement is true regardless who says it.
@@marcuslee7868 arguably just as unhealthy. Blood pressure scuffed up n cholesterol, probs Liver dmg, but most people on GeaR eat Healthier n drink more Water as well.
As someone who went from fat to fit (powerlifter) and then gained 50 pounds after pregnancy, there's a certain empathy you develope when you go through the motions. There's this level of big-headedness you adapt when you're at the top and you're the best and you lift the heaviest. I was there. I lost 100 pounds, could deadlift 415 pounds and finally had my dream body and even though I spent most of my life in a bigger body I thought I was better than everyone (creatine rotting the brain lol) and deciding to be overwight was a show of a character flaw. And then I got pregnant and couldn't lose the weight. I say all this to say. Always be empathetic. There's definitely a way to hold people accountable and be nice because it can always be you.
This. I am anal and ocd and have just lost 40lbs. Obesity is more the lack of making a very difficult choice. For some, it’s extremely extremely harder than for others. Tie this into very busy lifestyles with work and kids and also with underlying emotional issues that do not equip you to be successful. Losing weight requires a total rewiring of your brain and relationship to food which is often a major source of comfort. Making bad food choices is easy and everywhere. You need to fundamentally change who you are and that kind of change is rare in any endeavor. It takes a level of drive mental shift and discipline that is uncommon and uncommon to sustain.
Creatine is actually healthy for your mental health new studies show. The supplement that changes your behavior is steroids, commonly known for lowering your IQ, making you more aggressive, etc.
@@nikhilmalik62 First off, hats of to you for making a conscious change. You are 100 percent correct. A lot of us have deep disfunction when it comes to eating. I would go as far to say that most people do stemming from childhood but no one ever talks about the psychological strain eating puts on so many. Sometimes it's not as easy as changing what you eat and exercising. It's a whole mental re-do.
@@HazemMaddouri Oh I took a lot of creatine everyday to increase my muscle growth and in my personal experience I was a lot more irritable and aggressive. It's just something I say to describe being a muscle head. lol
as an obese man who chose to lose the weight and since gained it all back, I often see people say that no one would choose to be obese or to have the problems that come with it. It is however the byproduct of multiple choices, many simply bad habits formed and a lack of understanding your own body that leads you to obesity. I adhered to a diet, I hit the gym, I lost the weight. but when my routine got interrupted due to an injury and the subsequent financial stress, I threw it all out the window and fell back into old habits very easily. You can choose to do the right thing, but it's not always as simple for some of us as it is others.
Same 😂. I gained back all the weight I lost and then some. Now I've lost more weight than I ever have and I'm still fat it sucks. It's harder this time around for some reason.
See, it isnt a choice when mere food you can afford when under financial downturn is outright junk. I can hardly imagine you would got it back on bland oat porridge, lentils etc.
@@ivanmatusic5540 Healthier foods are cheaper. Issue is you are prob buying foods that say they healthy and market themselves that way so its more expensive.
@@zyncwargaming179 Healthy foods are easy to get if you live near proper grocery stores and have reliable transportation, but there are many food deserts now, typically in areas without public transportation that make it genuinely difficult for the people there to eat healthy.
5:52 ya bro. Come down to any rural area of Alabama. Tons of hard working people who work 60 hours a week, but their only “grocery store” for 20 miles is a Dollar General. Calories in calories out, sure, but what about the micros? Ultra (unhealthy) processed food with 1 serving containing 80% of your daily sodium with 30% of your required calories. The lack of information that people have while holding such strong opinions is baffling. I’m not obese, I’m not fat. I’m a body builder. So don’t think I’m defending myself here.
the fitness guy closest to Jesse, in the group literally offered no kind of extension or criticism that was actually helpful. Guy is just a bully who can't open up about his own insecurities so he instead picks on who he feels is the weakest link in the room. He seriously needs some mental therapy or something.
100% compassion and encouragement and leading by example work. I have helped so many of my friends and family start their journey simply because they saw me and my progress and how happy i was overall.
It wasn't politically correct, it was scientifically correct. You can't be offended because when you think about it you can't logically flaw it and so you accept it.
The one fit dude who kept talking was insane and sanctimonious. He really said he goes not eating for 10 days as some sort of value test. The doctor was sane and helpful, I feel that is the difference. You can help someone without declaring yourself judge jury and executioner of the situation
@@kekFadingit wasn't logical or scientific. Being obese is absolutely a choice and Israetel is clearly out of his mind and should have his PhD revoked. Just because people don't WANT to be fat doesn't mean that they didn't make the CHOICE to be fat by overeating. That's like saying someone who gets shit-faced drunk, gets in their car, and then kills someone in an accident didn't make the choice to kill someone. That would be stupid. They made CHOICES that the KNEW could end in disaster. The difference here is that the drunk still might not have killed someone. The person overeating has no chance of not becoming fatter, and they damn well know it.
That line there near the very end, 'it is your choice NOT to change.' Or something to that effect, THAT'S what it is! Obesity isn't always a choice. What you do about it IS.
In college, while I was taking my biology classes, I found out that if parents are obese or are prone to gaining weight, their kids are more likely to deal with the same problems. It’s pretty clear that both genetics and lifestyle choices have a big impact on this issue.
Genetics can make you more prone to be overweight and getting it off less quickly than others, but no genetics cause a person to be obese, that is most definitely just lifestyle.
I come from a fat family, I'm the only one that chose to exercise and keep my diet in check past the age of 25, I'm in my 50's now and still fit not fat can't say the same for my younger brother who was the same size when we were young but he's following my parents lack of footsteps and is 5'9" and 19 stone with high BP and fatty liver disease vs myself same height but a lean 12 stone with a max vo2 of 78 and resting hr 38bpm peak season.
You know I’ve seen some of your shorts and more light hearted content and never really cared too much for it, but when I saw some snippets of this video on my feed I knew i had to watch it. And I’m glad I did. This was a beautiful video and I love how you didn’t overpower any of the conversations and let everyone speak freely. I thank you sincerely Jessy for tackling such a charged topic in today’s society especially in such an elegant manner. I wish you and everyone reading the best in your personal journeys ❤
His argument was shitty, he's separating hard choices from easy choices for no reason. People can choose not to eat so much and to be more active, but they aren't.
I was a very lean, fit athlete my entire life. I gained weight once in my 30s following an accident & recently had long Covid & gained a ton of weight. I lost the weight each time after I was able to return to a workout routine. Still, getting back into shape each time was psychologically harder, took longer, and required a lot more motivational self talk than I would've liked. It's so easy for fitness routines to become detailed. If your child has cancer, if you're prescribed medication with side effects, if you have a soul crushing job. I can't imagine how difficult it becomes if fitness was never part of your lifestyle to begin with.
That's like saying being addicted to drugs isn't a choice. Pretty sure most people choose to never do drugs or eat 8k calories in one sitting to stretch your stomach to such ungodly amounts, normal portions of food no longer satisfies you.
My older sister used my weight my whole life to shame and humiliate me, even in front of others. I haven't talked to her in 6 years and ironically, I lost so much weight in last 2 years that I'm in healthy weight range now
I relate to that so much. It's self love and self-acceptance that pushed me to take care of myself and make better choices for my future (and lose 55 pounds in the progress)
that's so rough, family is all I ever had, I owe everything to them, when I was at my heaviest at 117kilos they were the reason I'm at a healthy weight and getting stronger, I could never imagine how I would feel in your shoes, tops to you, hope you succeed in life
Such an inspirational video, thank you! I made this trip myself, I was 360lb in my 22s. I was done, hated myself in so many ways. I made a decision to turn it around and lost -170lb in about 3 years. I was on top, fit, eating healthy, my life was insanely better in all aspects. But in this very high I found out about a really aggressive lung cancer, dr. gave about 2 years to live and said I should enjoy every moment with my family. I was crushed, lost all sense of achievement, everything felt worthless fighting if I won't be around much. I've gained almost 100lb in 1 year. But then again a few months ago I realized I was giving up before even trying to fight, so I'm BACK! I'll get there and beat this situation as I did in the past.
There are a lot of medical conditions that certainly are factors. My cousin, for example has a thyroid issue that caused weight gain to be so easy that she needed surgery to reduce her excess weight. In my case, I have such a busy schedule that it's difficult to find time to work out because I'm always tired due to barely sleeping. I'm working on fixing that and have lost weight, but I've got a long way to go. Currently I'm building the right habits to eat better, and even recently changed my job to help with that since i worked food services where i got lots of free food that really was very detrimental to a healthy diet. The diet change alone has been helping with my energy levels and helping improve my sleep quality. I don't have the time or money for a gym membership yet, but I've been working on building a calisthenics routine, but the changes are still pretty new.
The thyroid issue kinda disproves the calories in vs calories out cliche that so many people think is set in stone (3rd law of thermodynamics), medical steroids have a similar effect, genes and hormones play a huge part imho.
Getting obese isn’t always a choice, such as children who are fed poorly by parents who are just eating what they’ve given. STAYING obese is a choice. Whether you chose to be obese or not, choosing not to do anything about it is a choice being made.
Yep this is why we see stories all the time of kids being obese and then working out in their teenage years because it was their choice to make a change
I agree. My twins are with their Mother most of the time. Her diet is trash, so becomes my kids😞 I cannot stand it. She don't exercise either n there's nothing medically stopping her from doing so. Kids are learning horrible habits from BM n I can't do anything
@@simply11believelane47That's a whole ass excuse because you can also help them when they are with you by going out doing physical activities and showing them how to workout and creating that love for it at a young age same way I am doing with my kid, he knows how to do pull ups and push ups and does them for fun with his friends at school.
I don't think I've ever met, or for that matter, ever SEEN a person who WILLINGLY wants to be obese in the most plain sense of the word ("choice"), but obesity is the result of many of continuous decisions that aren't the best for your health and physical appearance. But there are some factors that have a blatantly obvious effect on an individual, like genetics, endocrine disorders, and gastrointestinal disorders, among others. In the end, every single person's case is completely different and requires attention that reflects that entirely unique situation.
all that's true; the elephant in the room is the billions spent by big food to literally formulate our foods to keep us metabolically sick fat and HUNGRY all the time.
@WigganNuG ABSOLUTELY!!! Less food, or less hormonal sensation of being full, but five times the calories of WHOLE, HEALTHY foods...it's repulsive what these companies do.
@@janickgonzalez8900 it’s like you’re a frog in boiling water, did the frog choose to be boiled alive? Or did someone turn the heat on and it wasn’t aware.
Something being up to choice doesn't always mean it's easy or a one-and-done thing. Most people who are obese continuously make choices that lead to them being obese.
@yazzy3177 I’ll admit he was speaking facts most the of the time, but then he’d go off on a tangent and ruin it by saying something absurd. He undermined people different experiences. Yes, at the end of the day calories in calories out, we all know that. Easier said than done.
I was obese since 8th grade. I mean when I was 28 I weighted about 198KG. I hated my self back then. didnt even want to go out or interact with anyone. have a lot of mental issues and focus issues. but now, in my 35, im about 95kg im working out every single day. Im not saying I have 6 packs or something. but im MUCH happier now adays. more motivated. more focused. just hit my PR for deadlift yesterday for 195KG. I can now lift my own weight when I was obese :)
The heaviest I ever weighed was 275 pounds when I was 21. I went to the doctor because I had brain fog and felt like absolute shit. I was diagnosed with high blood pressure, had issues with my lipids and some scary heart concerns. I grew up in a low-income household and was never taught about nutrition, and growing up I mostly lived off of fast food due to the situation at home growing up. I believe that being fat is a choice for adults, but not for children. Now, at 25, I weigh 175 pounds, work out regularly, and am mostly healthy (still on 5mg lisinopril for blood pressure). Ultimately, the decision to change your life is up to you.
Personally was around 450 at my heaviest at around 19 (195 rn) I never felt bad or anything but got Diabetes due to the weight 😬 luckily insulin is free where I live and after losing the weight I only need to take one pill daily.
I’ve actually changed a lot of peoples lives by extending a hand instead of kicking them down. I’ve convinced several people to come to the gym with me and I’ve seen the incredible results and get to see them come to life and develop as they start building themselves. Maybe 1 in 100 times fat shaming someone makes them rethink their choices. Every single time I’ve convinced someone to come have fun exercising with me, I’ve personally witnessed their crazy transformations. Those odds are faaar greater than fat shaming.
I am a certified personal trainer, I am an ex fitness model, and for the first 34 years of my life, I was thin/fit and very strong and slim. But starting at the age of about 23, I started having to fight against a degenerative disease that gives me frequent painful joint dislocations, nerve pain, and severe chronic pain. Since then, I have about 7-8 chronic illnesses (including the original EDS hypermobility, some are co-morbidities of it), and the pain has simply gotten too bad. I stopped being able to work at 27 but kept working out to try and stay out of my wheelchair. At about 34, things shifted. I stopped being able to work out very often because of how much pain I was in, my depression became severe from the sheer amount of pain I was in which means I didn't go out much. I also am immunocompromised so couldn't do much during covid which is what started the depression and isolation. So at 34, my overweightness started. It wasn't a choice. It was a shift in my life that I'm unhappy with that I'm trying to change, and because of the sheer amount of pain I'm in and the 12+ joint dislocations I have daily and the wrist brace I have to wear constantly (or whatever injury I have at the moment)....I haven't been able to fix it. I am an overweight disabled personal trainer. It's not been my choice.
I’m so sorry to hear that. I hope you get the care you deserve. This is exactly why blanket statements can be harmful as we never know what someone is going through 😢
no matter how many sick you get ... is there any disease that specifically makes you eat more and more unless you die ? imagine if you had that many diseases in a third world country where it's hard to get access to food ... would you still get overweight with all those illnesses combined ? I hardly think so
All it takes is one bad day or one bad health episode/diagnosis for people's bodys to change in a way they never imagined. The people like Mitch who criticize others physiques should remember that they could find themselves in those exact shoes one day and have a whole new level of understanding. Stay humble and be resepctful.
Exactly. I never thought I'd gain all the weight back and I'd be arrogant towards others who were obese but now that I found myself in their shoes I gained a new understanding and I'm somewhat ashamed of the way I acted before.
I feel like the fitness inlfuencers didn't understand the other side:(. I look very fit, but have always battled with binge eating but simply never get called out for it, because i'm still on the smaller side. Obviously, i work hard and go to the gym, but if i had been given different genetics it could have easily been a case of obseity. I wish the gym influencers were people who had a transformation like the guy speaking throughout the video. It gives a lot more compassion to the fact that eating dsiordders are seomtiems not a choice, but a state of being and a difficult cycle to beat. I wish i could give every single person in the is video a hug. as long as someone is trying to, that is the most important part
I've always been overweight since I was a kid. Idk, maybe thyroid issues, hard to say. Even when I put in the work, I average 200 at 5'9". The only thing that really got me doing even the basics like pushups and situps and the occasional plank was my friend KJ. He didn't shame me at all, she just said "I care about you, and I wanna be friends for longer, so you're going to work out with me". He's Indian and hard to argue with, so now I have a morning regimen. Also, I don't think obesity is a choice. I think it's a result. A result of lifestyle and genetics. Some people just have to work harder at it. I do what I can, but I'm fine with my gut. As long as I can work and live without much pain.
At my heaviest I was probably closer to 375lbs. My first actual weigh in was at 371.4. I gained over 170lbs in the years after my ex was killed by a drunk driver. The short answer is that it’s a complex issue with many different variables from person to person. But it can be a choice and people can make the change I’m living proof of it. I’ll have to make a video on this to lay out all my thoughts on this because I see it as much bigger than just obesity. People are quick to point at the fat person (a visual manifestation of coping) so you don’t see the unhealthy ways they cope with the problems in their own lives. Doesn’t make being obese any less unhealthy, but that’s where I see some people’s discomfort coming from like the fella talking about shaming his family.
I am sorry to hear what you went through. I think you said it well. Obessity is often a physical manifestation of coping that people point at,ignoring their own unhealthy coping skills(like anti fat guy in video). Keep pushing man!
This narrative appears sympathetic, but is actually extremely stigmatizing. Fatness is not a visual manifestation of trauma or whatever. Yes, some fat people eat as a coping mechanism, but this probably applies to a small minority of people. The real cause is food drive, most fat people just need to eat more food to feel normal than thin people do. This is why GLP1 agonists like Ozempic work, they're not reducing trauma, they're reducing subconscious food drive. It's not meaningfully a choice. You're not "living proof" of anything, everyone knows it's possible to lose weight. You losing weight does not prove everyone can lose weight if they just try hard enough. I've seen people in my life successfully and unsuccessfully try to lose weight, the difference was not effort. The difference was that one of them developed an eating disorder.
I love the mini documenterys he started doing. I know it soo much time to make this but the outcome is so worth it love the new content msn cant wait to see whats next
I was a normal, healthy 14 year old - then I had 3 life threatening asthma attacks in the space of 6 months - these were severe attacks that kept me in hospital for weeks at a time, on heavy doses of hydrocortisone and other drugs that wrecked my health. I spent the next 18 months on big doses of cortico-steroids to control my asthma. I went from 125 pounds to over 180 pounds, though I was eating a normal healthy diet - there were no splurges on sugary foods or fatty, carb laden foods, we lived out in the country and basically lived off the land. But I put on massive amounts of weight over the next year, though I had been gradually weaned off the steroids - and I could not shift that weight. Strangely, the next year, I lost about half the excess weight, then suddenly, without any change in diet, gained a massive amount again. I felt tired all the time, I slept 12 hours a day, I was cold all the time, my hair was thinning and I couldn’t think straight. This pattern of sudden weight gains and losses continued for years. It destroyed my late teens and early twenties. Various doctors basically told me i was lying about not being an overeater. Others prescribed anti-depressants, though I had never identified as depressed, I was even told I could be bipolar, because when I was losing weight I was energetic, even excitable, emotionally lábiles, hard to keep up with, but when I was gaining weight, I was slow, placid - it was like two personalities to the outside observer! This went on for years, until eventually i went into an unending decline for months. Fortunately a friend of my mother’s came to visit while I was staying with her, having given up my job due to total inability to perform any of the work. The friend told me to go get a specific blood test for TSH. A few dates later my doctor rang sounding rather panicked. She asked me to come down and see her straight away. She revealed that the test for TSH had come back with the highest reading she had ever seen or heard of. TSH stands for thyroid stimulating hormone. It’s the hormone that your thyroid gland needs to operate. Normally my thyroid gland had stopped operating completely after more than a decade and a half of alternating between hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism, hence the rollercoaster ride with my weight and physical energies and abilities. Stop blaming all fat people for the weight that they carry. Yes, some people have bad habits when it comes to eating., some people have a genetic predisposition to forming and keeping adipose tissue. Some people genuinely have hormonal imbalances that are beyond their control. I have now been on a thyroid supplement for decades. I have no thyroid gland left, it got cleaned up and just disappeared. I can’t put up the amount of thyroxine that I take on a daily basis because it could cause heart arrhythmia or worse… I am stuck with a metabolism that is artificially mediated. I gain weight on anything over 1300 cal per day. I need a low-carb diet, with lots of protein and I still find it incredibly difficult to maintain a healthy weight. I work out in the gym three times a week. I do HIIT cardio another three days, I get seven hours sleep at night, I do not eat excessively. Theoretically, I should be able to maintain an ideal body weight on 2200 cal. This is impossible for me no matter how much exercise I do, I would have to be going all day long. I’m a busy person with work to do as I’m responsible as a full-time carer for a disabled person. Be careful when judging fat people, you don’t know the struggle they may have experienced and be experiencing
Anything the FDA recommends, I now do the opposite. Health and Beauty Mastery by Julian Bannett book exposes so many shocking truths about the health industry. I completely changed my habits.
It was a pretty bad analogy. Obesity is the result of many continuous bad choices. A choice doesn't always mean something has to be easy or happen in an instant. You can choose to do something that is less comfortable.
Its about context. He stated "active" choice. No one is actively making the choice that they want to be fat, obese, or what have you. The only people spouting that they "choose" to be fat are the ones that have already gone too far, and don't know how to go back, so they portray it as being their choice. Yes, many factors lead to becoming fat or obese, many of them are choices that inadvertently lead to weight gain, but the intent is what matters. NOW, if you want to argue that someone makes the choice to do nothing about being fat, then 100%, that is their choice not to fix the problem that they created over the course of their life, they're actively making the choice to say screw it, I'm not going to do anything about it. What I liked about the shirt analogy is that it is simple. You wake up in the morning, you make the choice to wear your favorite shirt, but you don't tell yourself every morning "Hey, I'm gonna wear my favorite fat suit". But, at the end of the day it's a semantics argument. If you think it's a jank analogy, then cool beans man. Personally, it put a complex issue into an easy to understand analogy, and I dig it.
People in general need to be working on their health. Just because you are skinny does not mean you arent as lazy as the obese person. Unless you are actively working on your health each day then you dont have anything to say. We should be encouraging people to make positive changes in their life, not trashing them.
Jeff nippard I think made the best answer to the question. Yes it's a series of choices and also just circumstances that nobody chooses. You have no control over if your brain tells you to eat and you always hungry. You do have to a large extent choices of how you address that like what you eat but knowing what's the right choices isn't necessarily easy. It's complicated.
The question about the plane seat is silly because the seats are just small. I’ve sat next to body builders and have been just as uncomfortable as when sitting next to obese people.
Even just normal dudes with slightly above average height suck to sit next to because the seats aren't designed for the length of their legs or width of their shoulders.
That guy in the plaid shirt talking about "descriptor words" made an excellent point that transcends this issue by a lot. He implied that intent was more important than word usage when determining prejudice or bias. That's something we all need shoved in our ears and eyes more regularly. Thanks, Plaid guy
"mental toughness" wtf is that, that one guys mental toxicity is so corny. You dont have to starve yourself for 10 days, you can just track macros like a normal person.
Clearly you don’t know who Mitch Aguiar is. He’s a navy seal combat veteran and the owner of MASF supplements. Mitch speaks the truth and doesn’t sugar coat shit.
@@DomenicSacco Being a vet doesn't give him any authority on health, fitness, or diet. People that actually have knowledge on that topic would be someone like Dr. Israetel, who spoke in this video on the complexity of the obesity epidemic, and that it is not someone's fault, but it is their responsibility.
imagine how much better a place the world would be if more people were capable of thinking about and discussing a subject with the nuance that Dr. Mike brings to this subject.
Mike is an idiot. Not one of his analogues made sense. What does wearing a purple shirt have to do with not choosing to be fat😂 99% of the time, being fat is a choice. Most people who are fat and have medical conditions got those medical conditions because they were fat and unhealthy. It's your choice to eat highly processed, high calorie foods or not. It's your choice to prioritise fitness and health above other things.
@DzaMiQ I mean... really? Sure he wasn't able to get lean enough to be competitive, but then again we're in danger of comparing pro level body building with genpop and I feel like mike is providing his view about the latter 🤷♂️ 2 different worlds, and I don't think there is any doubt as to whether some people put on and retain fat and higher rates than others.
@@BjerkeRobin of corse there are different factors at play when it comes to how fast someone burns fat. But to say in any shape or form that you have no power over being fat or get in shape is just next level of copemaxxing.
I think it's a choice sometimes, but other times it can be out of your control. There's a girl in my college class with a mobility problem, and she's quite overweight. I'm sure she could definitely eat healthier, but at the same time, exercise isn't really an option for her. I also heard a story about this woman who has held hostage by her boyfriend, and she became obese as a result of trauma.
"I'm excited to wake up. Do you know how crazy that is?" He just described what many people wish to feel and do find crazy because they're struggling so badly. That's not even just for obesity, it's for a lot of other things too.
Jesse you are the man, always pushing the threshold with real wholesome content, your genuine self and humility with people is an absolute rarity on the internet these days.
I agree mostly with this video. But one factor that was not mentioned was medications an individual may be on. For example, I am a breast cancer survivor, but the medication I have to take causes weight gain. I have gained 5 lb in 6 months. I go to the gym 4 to 5 times a week and eat less than 1500 calories a day, and I have to be on this medication for 5 years. As someone who has always been on the thinner side, it's hard for me to accept that, and my mental health and self confidence is suffering.
His explanation couldn't of made LESS sense in my view. It's like saying do people CHOOSE to go to them gym? By his argument then NO no one chooses to go to the gym, which is a complete fraudulent lie.
@Brandon-vd7er You definitely demonstrated in your example how you didn't understand his example. What he's saying is he disagrees with the premise of the question. No one would deliberately choose to be obese if they had a one-time, binary decision to make. That's his point.
The fact is that it's a hard choice. Being consistent with your diet, tracking your calories, and exercising for years is in fact a choice. Or rather choices you make everday. Boiling it down to a comparison of which shirt you are wearing simply doesn't make sense in the first place. And because it is such a hard choice to take care of your health, when you've been obese for so long, people would obviously just refuse accountability.
Yes. It’s pretty clear that people who are obese fall into different categories, it’s unfair to label them under one big header of “Lazy and undisciplined”. I see now that for some people it is a case where they are lazy and undisciplined. Others have been obese since childhood which only got worse in adulthood. Others have lower metabolism, others have more medical complications. So on. I think Dr Mike’s statement is a perfect way to capture this case by case scenario. It’s really easy to understand what he’s trying to put down, it seems to me like other people are just still trying to find a way to shit on fat people. This problem is too complex to just label it one thing or the other. In addition, I think whoever said being obese is a disease is on to something. I wouldn’t label it as an ED, but its own thing.
@@DefeatLust "Just because it takes more than a 1 time binary decision, that means it's no longer a choice? Huh? " When did he say that? He just said, if there's a 1 time binary decision and everyone would choose A instead of B, it's not really a choice. It's not even a 1 time decision, because people already had to choose to be overweight or not, if being overweight was a choice. "That's a series of small CHOICES that you CHOSE and got the inevitable result." Correct, you choose to eat that candy bar. You didn't choose to become fat. You choose your actions, not reactions.
I’ve been obese twice in my life, the second time was the heaviest ever and I was Type 2 Obese and almost 300 lbs and I chose that life!!! I ate junk daily and all day with 0 thought to eating Whole Foods and neverrr exercised neither, simply because I didn’t want to.
Do you all not recognize that food is not the only contribution to obesity? It is a large one, but genetics, literally being born that way, metabolism, all of that comes into play as well.
As a former obese person (I weighed close to 300 pounds when I was just 16 years old and eventually got down to 185), I can confidently say that obesity is a choice. However, it has a lot to do with some particular mental issues like depression which laziness, binge eating and addiction can come from. One day with the help of my close friend, he introduced me to fitness and proper nutrition and in the beginning I hated it, but I hated myself and my body even more, so I decided to make a change, it wasn't easy but through all of that I became a Massage Therapist and a high level Personal Trainer. The body obeys the mind, even people with many types of "diseases" still try to live healthy and that is a choice they make to sustain their life as long as they can.
So you literally just described how obesity is not a choice because no one chooses to have mental health issues that result in obesity. It's not an active choice. People choose the food that they eat, but they do not choose to eat compulsively, nor do they consciously choose to binge. Saying obesity is a choice is like saying people with anorexia choose to develop osteoporosis. These things are consequences of underlying mental/physical/environmental factors. If obesity was a choice, then all the people who undergo gastric bypasses would remain thin, and none of them would regain any of the weight. You would have to argue that they chose to have invasive surgery only to choose to still be obese despite going to drastic lengths to fix it. They relapse because they have untreated illnesses, which means it's not a choice, obesity is closer to a symptom of an underlying problem.
1:50 this dude has it right. He understands that while it would benefit him to have the free seat, he also knows that he shouldn't get it simply because of his size.
Something people dont always understand is if your obese and on steroids you both have very similar health conditions. Especially if say someone is 250 plus pounds of muscle, your heart still has to work overtime
I was thin my whole life as soon as i hit adulthood i started to gain belly fat. I fast and try ro not eat sweets or processed foods. I even went to the gym for a few months and worked out for hours at a time. It felt like nothing helped me lose weight. I kinda just gave up.
health and fitness takes a lot of trial and error. a lot of the time fasting doesn’t work because it puts your body under stress, causing it to hold onto the calories it thinks it needs, and trying to gain muscle is harder w/o proper nutrition. (not a dietitian, just based on my own journey) don’t give up! having a healthy body improves every piece of your life
Do you think it is a choice?
@@JesseJamesWest yes first reply
@@JesseJamesWest w vids man
Yes dad 🥹
Always be positive🗿
@@JesseJamesWest sometimes when there is no medical reason
"Its not you're fault, but it is your responsibility" quote changed my whole perspective on this conversation. thank you!
If it is not your responsibility, who else's fault could it be?
If everybody is promoting créatine monohydrate who is taking the other créatine forms
That’s a life quote right there.
This is literally the quintessence for betttering your life. If you think about this sentence every day you stop sabotaging yourself
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When I was at my heaviest, my mom sent me to a clinic that offered group therapies and diet plans for obese people. We met once a month, and in group therapies, we didn’t talk about food, how much we hated our bodies, or anything like that. Instead, we discussed things like losing loved ones, stress from work or college, troubling family lives, and so on.
All the obese people there had found comfort in food, and that’s why it got out of control. Just like some people turn to alcohol or drugs, food addiction is different because it’s immediately noticeable and one of the hardest to overcome.
At 24, I had just lost my dear grandma and father. At the same time, I was finishing college and starting my career. You could say I was dealing with a lot at that time, and the only joy in my life was eating a big meal. It made me feel drowsy and mellow at the end of the day, helping me escape the sadness and stress I was constantly feeling.
Yes, it is important to learn how do deal with the tough turns life throws at us. Hope the group was helpful.
That's an excuse. I was in horrible pain in my twenties and didn't do that, I ate healthy and exercised. I'm sick of excuses.
Studies have shown that individuals with chronic pain may experience changes in empathy levels, which can affect their interactions with others.
@@MorganHyde-ie5ruand are you the outlier or the rule?
@@MorganHyde-ie5runah, it’s just a coping mechanism, when I was at my lowest I was the opposite, I found comfort in having control over what I ate and pretty much challenging myself in everything, that turned into anorexia and I definitely wasn’t healthy, I was working out over 3 hours a day and eating little to no food, was I lazy? No. Does that mean I was healthy and doing it for the right reasons? No. Not everything is an excuse, and in my personal case I feel more healthy now that I don’t work out as much, does that make me lazy at all? No. The person that commented was def trying, because if she/he was going to therapy it means they were trying to change, step by step, that’s not putting excuses.
As an ex obese man, it is a conscious, or sub-conscious, choice to be obese. It's really whether you recognize it as a problem and decide to change it.
@@maelys3630 excuses is all i hear
@@maelys3630 You may not be able to control the fact that you have it, but it is still your responsibility to manage it. You can work to overcome it and try to minimize it's impact on your health and lifestyle. I also have health issues caused by genetics that I can't control but I get up every day and focus on maintaining a healthy lifestyle despite those issues.
@ sounds like you’re facing some adversity. Are you going to give your all or succumb to it
I love this answer. It's all perspective at the end of the day
So it’s a choice
14:39 Mitch is so insufferable. People don’t talk about mental health in 3rd world countries because the are struggling to get the basics like food, water, and shelter. It’s maslow’s hierarchy of needs, not a relative measure of importance
Choices … that’s what it’s all about.. end of story
Maslow while influential is not the most accurate, McClelland said that those can vary trough the time, even in underdeveloped nations
Only in United States people deal with mental health! There’s people with bigger problems everywhere like he said. And the government pushes that shit on society and becomes a thing now
@@jenniferlogiurato-rider3585 People don't always have choices, so no. There are a lot of things beyond choices
@@jenniferlogiurato-rider3585 Fuckin what?
Watching this again and realizing that the editing is on point. When man says he would never be that guy immediately after saying he bullied his brother for years.
“I was just trying to help my bro idk why he said I can’t be involved with his life anymore?”
I'm not really the type to talk, but his physique looks terrible. Even if it was effective, he's not really worthy of shaming others IMO.
@@benyo3622 It looks like he took a dip into PEDs for a while. Those are _definitely_ healthy. 🙄
@@benyo3622I observed this as well and he honestly doesn’t strike me as fit but rather someone who occasionally lifts and wears clothing that is too tight
"I wonder why my brother blocked me from all places 5 years ago, he must have done it by accident"
Damn, somebody give that guys brother a hug.
"I was fatshaming him my whole life" - so fatshaming didnt have any positive impact on his brothers physique at all but he kept going instead of choosing a different approach, what a guy
@@hyperion3135 he didn't know how the f to actually help
@yannickburger9832 Mitch is a former Navy Seal/MMA champion. He is built different. Obesity should be shamed as much as it should be normalized: 0. But bullying has always been humanitys tool to avoid normalizing disadvantageous behaviour
@@hyperion3135actually it did have an impact on him, he eventually lost 115lbs. Btw I’m the guy in the video lol
@@MASFTV1 Love people like you. Need more people like you, and to stop coddling and enabling people that live that life style to the point they're waddling.
Such an Honor being able to tell my story on your channel!! UA-cam has always been a dream, and you are helping making it happen!!
I appreciate you bro!!
You are Legend
Omg hi❤
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"Real growth only happens when you get tired of your own shit" I felt that bro, thank you :)
As a formerly obese person it's a choice but it's also VERY hard to change that lifestyle. Id say it was easier to quit drinking alcohol and weed than changing the diet.
Yeah, people gotta respect that it's basically a large set of skills and habits that have to be learned.
99.99% of the people who are harsh and black-and-white about it have never been seriously overweight and didn't grow up that way.
As someone who was a massive weed addict and someone who struggles with food consumption, the food is 100% harder to kick than weed
That one guy in the panel is the exact reason why some people are scared to take the first step in their fitness journey. Because guys like him make them feel like they don't have a place.
Or they can just ignore them and still try to be healthy.
Imagine the guy being your brother tho.. djeez
@@frydacI would love that. I would get tired of it and would motivate myself to do it.
Yeah, Mitch Aguiar is a total dbag.
That's just more excuses. "But another person exists and has opinions!". Uh, yeah. Theres about 350M of them in the US alone. Time to grow up.
Here to stay positive.
I've been on both sides of the fence, 166 and 285, never judge someone. We all are going through something.
We need to judge those preaching that obesity is healthy.
Yes!! ♥
@@JustDoof12 It's a shame nobody's sayin that
@@JustDoof12And that my friend, is why you learn to not care what other people think. People like you, lol
@letuce_1762 That's the worst thing that anyone can do, is judge others.
1:57 "I'm on team free, only because right now it benefits me. Just because it's nice, doesn't mean necessarily that it's something that I'm entitled to" My man is speaking facts 👏🏼👏🏼
I read this comment the moment he said it in the video whaaat 😂
I would have loved if he followed up with the body builder “ok cool - should airlines charge more for a 300lb 6’4” body builder?@“ 😂
@@heythereimkevin they should absolutely. It was their choice to get that big and extreme bodybuilding can also be unhealthy despite it being very attractive compared to fat people
@@heythereimkevini dont get what youre trying to prove here smally. 300 lbs bodybuilders are also unhealthy since theyre most likely on roids. So theres no need to address your insecurities.
@@oxovly4455 bodybuilders are the most insecure people out there 😂😂
8:16 forgets to mention he quit his job, lived at home supported by his parents, and was taking a drug protocol costing around $3k usd a month to lose all that weight
Guarantee you if you had the same circumstances you quaint make it that far either.
Holy cow, thank you for providing this much needed context! I'd say it's wild that this comment isn't higher up, but I think we all know why that is.
@walidpopal9076 in fairness this guy is honest about the steps he took in other videos, just it didn't feature in this one
@@samv284 That's like saying "Jimothy goes on all these shows spreading the gospel about how putting all his cash in a hot tub made it double over a month, and I don't think it's dishonest because if you watch his show, he explains that his parents threw more cash into the hot tub every night."
Yup, you gotta do what you gotta do. Results do have value.
It's the same as asking if drug addiction is a choice, and the answer is "it's complicated". Healthy rats in a natural environment won't consume cocaine if offered, but every single rat that was removed from their mother after a week being born took it. It's epigenetics, genetics and environment. But that doesn't mean you can't change or choose to be healthy
Wonderful analogy 👏
Our environment is the product of the culmination of our decisions. It was choices then and a choice now to be obese, not a "it's complicated".
Not gonna lie I was team choice until I saw this. You really changed my mind wow
any addiction was a choice the very first so regardless of what you say ur wrong an made a horrible choice to do a drug so yes its a choice an ur fault plain n simple
Most valid answer here
The fitfluencers railing about how your health is the most important thing...then why aren't you natty?
It's one guy really. The other two barely give input.
People are blind to things they choose to be
What is natty
@@benda777nba not using performance enhancing drugs
true but there is difference on what juice they are using compared to being obese this only lead to one road
As someone who has been fat up until the age of 16, then became very skinny, and then got really muscular in my 20’s (30 now) I think I can honestly answer the question. I’ve been on both sides.
The answer is yes AND no. Everyone knows that a calorie is a calorie, and you can’t argue with math and physics. No one else controls your hand and makes you put a hamburger in your mouth.
BUT, what people forget, is that your relationship with food is so deeply hardwired into your habits, that it’s simply a lot more complicated. I have found that almost everyone who eats too much/compulsively has some sort of emotion they can’t seem to deal with: fear, loneliness, feeling disconnected, low self esteem. Eating is by default a way to cope with some type of emotion.
A calorie actually isn’t a calorie when it comes to your health. You should see what eating the same amount of daily calories on a no sugar diet compared to the same amount of calories on a moderate sugar diet does to your body and health.
@@dewilew2137 you’re correct but his statement wasn’t arguing against that and it’s pretty clear what he meant to say lol
@@dewilew2137 Lol what the other guy said. You're correct but that was obviously not my point.
Is is your choice? NO. Is it your fault? Yes.
yapper its 100 ur choice wether its easy or not doesnt matter ur still making a choice
Wow Jesse, I’m truly moved by the video. I live in Germany, and I’ve been to the U.S. a few times to visit family, which made me notice the extent of obesity that some of the people I saw were dealing with. It really got me thinking, especially because I work as a nurse and have a background in sports science, so I’m very interested in movement and health. I think the topic is very complex, and your video really highlights that.
I think it’s incredibly powerful that you included voices from those affected in your video. I also really appreciate how you emphasize a nuanced perspective throughout. Truly impressive-sending so much love to you and everyone featured in the video ❤️
The fit guy closest to Jesse is definitely an alpha male podcaster lmao
Or... he was teased in high school and turned into a bully. I see no alpha there.
@@RondeLeeuw Or... you are delusional.
In other words, douche
They are wearing name tags bro it's Mitch you can just say Mitch
Dude was annoying the hell outta me
I have dropped from 250lbs to 170lbs in last 14 months just by following your videos and meal plan from Onlymeal. You have the best and most interesting content on YT. The people who want to lose fat, just need to find motivation... Keep going strong with your stuff.
Great results man! Just keep it up and dont quit
I lost 45lbs with their meal plan! its amazing and glad to see that someone other also using it
Nicee
You sound like a bot
1:14 respect to that girl!! She wanted to make a change for the better and went right for it!!
Agreed, she acknowledged it and is making an effort to change.
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She thinks she is healthy...
@@ccdsds3221being healthy is not all about how you look. One can be fit and unhealthy.
@@ccdsds3221 Yes, that part was pretty ridiculous. But at least she hasn't given up
1:51 This level is self-awareness is amazing. People, myself included, sometimes tend to justify things in a way that benefits them.
Anyone who is on steroids can’t SAY SHIT to anyone obese 🤣 yall heart both working overtime
Facts!
U right , one show compromise other laziness
Two things can be true at the same time. Someone on steroids pointing out the fact that someone obese is unhealthy isn't any less true because they're taking steroids which is harmful as well. The statement is true regardless who says it.
@@marcuslee7868 arguably just as unhealthy. Blood pressure scuffed up n cholesterol, probs Liver dmg, but most people on GeaR eat Healthier n drink more Water as well.
I mean they can lol cause them being on steroids is a choice same w being fat
As someone who went from fat to fit (powerlifter) and then gained 50 pounds after pregnancy, there's a certain empathy you develope when you go through the motions. There's this level of big-headedness you adapt when you're at the top and you're the best and you lift the heaviest. I was there. I lost 100 pounds, could deadlift 415 pounds and finally had my dream body and even though I spent most of my life in a bigger body I thought I was better than everyone (creatine rotting the brain lol) and deciding to be overwight was a show of a character flaw. And then I got pregnant and couldn't lose the weight. I say all this to say. Always be empathetic. There's definitely a way to hold people accountable and be nice because it can always be you.
This. I am anal and ocd and have just lost 40lbs. Obesity is more the lack of making a very difficult choice. For some, it’s extremely extremely harder than for others. Tie this into very busy lifestyles with work and kids and also with underlying emotional issues that do not equip you to be successful. Losing weight requires a total rewiring of your brain and relationship to food which is often a major source of comfort. Making bad food choices is easy and everywhere. You need to fundamentally change who you are and that kind of change is rare in any endeavor. It takes a level of drive mental shift and discipline that is uncommon and uncommon to sustain.
Creatine is actually healthy for your mental health new studies show. The supplement that changes your behavior is steroids, commonly known for lowering your IQ, making you more aggressive, etc.
@@nikhilmalik62 First off, hats of to you for making a conscious change. You are 100 percent correct. A lot of us have deep disfunction when it comes to eating. I would go as far to say that most people do stemming from childhood but no one ever talks about the psychological strain eating puts on so many. Sometimes it's not as easy as changing what you eat and exercising. It's a whole mental re-do.
I just wanted to ask what do you mean by creatine rotting the brain ? I've never heard that
@@HazemMaddouri Oh I took a lot of creatine everyday to increase my muscle growth and in my personal experience I was a lot more irritable and aggressive. It's just something I say to describe being a muscle head. lol
as an obese man who chose to lose the weight and since gained it all back, I often see people say that no one would choose to be obese or to have the problems that come with it. It is however the byproduct of multiple choices, many simply bad habits formed and a lack of understanding your own body that leads you to obesity. I adhered to a diet, I hit the gym, I lost the weight. but when my routine got interrupted due to an injury and the subsequent financial stress, I threw it all out the window and fell back into old habits very easily. You can choose to do the right thing, but it's not always as simple for some of us as it is others.
Lol the same thing happened to me a few years ago. Lost 100 lb and got them back in these last two years. I recently started losing weight again.
Same 😂. I gained back all the weight I lost and then some. Now I've lost more weight than I ever have and I'm still fat it sucks. It's harder this time around for some reason.
See, it isnt a choice when mere food you can afford when under financial downturn is outright junk.
I can hardly imagine you would got it back on bland oat porridge, lentils etc.
@@ivanmatusic5540 Healthier foods are cheaper. Issue is you are prob buying foods that say they healthy and market themselves that way so its more expensive.
@@zyncwargaming179 Healthy foods are easy to get if you live near proper grocery stores and have reliable transportation, but there are many food deserts now, typically in areas without public transportation that make it genuinely difficult for the people there to eat healthy.
5:52 ya bro. Come down to any rural area of Alabama. Tons of hard working people who work 60 hours a week, but their only “grocery store” for 20 miles is a Dollar General.
Calories in calories out, sure, but what about the micros? Ultra (unhealthy) processed food with 1 serving containing 80% of your daily sodium with 30% of your required calories.
The lack of information that people have while holding such strong opinions is baffling.
I’m not obese, I’m not fat.
I’m a body builder.
So don’t think I’m defending myself here.
Rural Alabama? Also a choice to live and work there.
the fitness guy closest to Jesse, in the group literally offered no kind of extension or criticism that was actually helpful. Guy is just a bully who can't open up about his own insecurities so he instead picks on who he feels is the weakest link in the room. He seriously needs some mental therapy or something.
Yeah but apparently tHeRe’S nO SuCh ThInG
I believe it’s called “anecdotal evidence” and that is no base for a discussion
Lol ok kiddo.
Dude was being brutally honest, welcome to the real world, betting your probably obese yourself
Sounds like he hurt your fragile delicate feelings. Grow a pair.
100% compassion and encouragement and leading by example work. I have helped so many of my friends and family start their journey simply because they saw me and my progress and how happy i was overall.
That Doctor needs to run for congress because he can literally answer any question in a politically correct way without offending no one. That’s crazy
It wasn't politically correct, it was scientifically correct. You can't be offended because when you think about it you can't logically flaw it and so you accept it.
The one fit dude who kept talking was insane and sanctimonious. He really said he goes not eating for 10 days as some sort of value test. The doctor was sane and helpful, I feel that is the difference. You can help someone without declaring yourself judge jury and executioner of the situation
Doctor Mike is the opposite of politically correct 😂
@@kekFadingit wasn't logical or scientific. Being obese is absolutely a choice and Israetel is clearly out of his mind and should have his PhD revoked. Just because people don't WANT to be fat doesn't mean that they didn't make the CHOICE to be fat by overeating. That's like saying someone who gets shit-faced drunk, gets in their car, and then kills someone in an accident didn't make the choice to kill someone. That would be stupid. They made CHOICES that the KNEW could end in disaster. The difference here is that the drunk still might not have killed someone. The person overeating has no chance of not becoming fatter, and they damn well know it.
Thank you !!! Dr is just saying nothing ! Yes but also no, no but also yes ...
That line there near the very end, 'it is your choice NOT to change.' Or something to that effect, THAT'S what it is! Obesity isn't always a choice. What you do about it IS.
In college, while I was taking my biology classes, I found out that if parents are obese or are prone to gaining weight, their kids are more likely to deal with the same problems. It’s pretty clear that both genetics and lifestyle choices have a big impact on this issue.
Genetics can make you more prone to be overweight and getting it off less quickly than others, but no genetics cause a person to be obese, that is most definitely just lifestyle.
I come from a fat family, I'm the only one that chose to exercise and keep my diet in check past the age of 25, I'm in my 50's now and still fit not fat can't say the same for my younger brother who was the same size when we were young but he's following my parents lack of footsteps and is 5'9" and 19 stone with high BP and fatty liver disease vs myself same height but a lean 12 stone with a max vo2 of 78 and resting hr 38bpm peak season.
That Mitch guy tho, take a chill pill bro 😂
You have no idea lol. He is a former SEAL, met him when I was stationed at little creek.
Nah, he’s just saying the hard truth, which is something a lot of people are in denial of to make there situation acceptable to themselves
@@lordmarsgaming1935oh did you now? 👀
sometimes harsh truth is necessary
bro is trying too hard
Here to stay positive 🤝🏻
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wrong, you're to stay relentless.
You know I’ve seen some of your shorts and more light hearted content and never really cared too much for it, but when I saw some snippets of this video on my feed I knew i had to watch it. And I’m glad I did. This was a beautiful video and I love how you didn’t overpower any of the conversations and let everyone speak freely. I thank you sincerely Jessy for tackling such a charged topic in today’s society especially in such an elegant manner. I wish you and everyone reading the best in your personal journeys ❤
Dr . Mike with the clear reasoning and facts. Love it.
They couldn't even have him in this debate, it'd be too 1 sided
Eh, not really I can cook in the metabolic and genetic debate💯💯.
As soon as I saw him I already knew what he going to say.
His argument was shitty, he's separating hard choices from easy choices for no reason. People can choose not to eat so much and to be more active, but they aren't.
Thought about the other Dr Mike ngl 😂😂
@@perceptoshmegington3371 he is overhyped, just saying what people want to hear.
This video look into mindsets, but it's strange that there is absolutely no discusion on how the current food industry is causing this.
guessed you missed my part eh xD
@@SimonGoliathLafontantI didn’t notice it tbh
11:38 small discussion here
I was a very lean, fit athlete my entire life. I gained weight once in my 30s following an accident & recently had long Covid & gained a ton of weight. I lost the weight each time after I was able to return to a workout routine. Still, getting back into shape each time was psychologically harder, took longer, and required a lot more motivational self talk than I would've liked.
It's so easy for fitness routines to become detailed. If your child has cancer, if you're prescribed medication with side effects, if you have a soul crushing job. I can't imagine how difficult it becomes if fitness was never part of your lifestyle to begin with.
The way my jaw dropped at 3:33
Yeah my man coulda went at it a little softer than that just a touch lol
6:13 yes. Obesity is not necessarily your fault, still your body is your responsibility.
That's like saying being addicted to drugs isn't a choice.
Pretty sure most people choose to never do drugs or eat 8k calories in one sitting to stretch your stomach to such ungodly amounts, normal portions of food no longer satisfies you.
It is a choice. Obesity causes insulin resistance in the muscle, which then this leads to a horrific sequence of events.
My older sister used my weight my whole life to shame and humiliate me, even in front of others.
I haven't talked to her in 6 years and ironically, I lost so much weight in last 2 years that I'm in healthy weight range now
I relate to that so much. It's self love and self-acceptance that pushed me to take care of myself and make better choices for my future (and lose 55 pounds in the progress)
❤❤❤ you didn’t deserve that abuse from her.
That's crazy
Seems like you shedded the most important weight 6 years ago.
that's so rough, family is all I ever had, I owe everything to them, when I was at my heaviest at 117kilos they were the reason I'm at a healthy weight and getting stronger, I could never imagine how I would feel in your shoes, tops to you, hope you succeed in life
Such an inspirational video, thank you!
I made this trip myself, I was 360lb in my 22s. I was done, hated myself in so many ways. I made a decision to turn it around and lost -170lb in about 3 years. I was on top, fit, eating healthy, my life was insanely better in all aspects. But in this very high I found out about a really aggressive lung cancer, dr. gave about 2 years to live and said I should enjoy every moment with my family. I was crushed, lost all sense of achievement, everything felt worthless fighting if I won't be around much. I've gained almost 100lb in 1 year. But then again a few months ago I realized I was giving up before even trying to fight, so I'm BACK! I'll get there and beat this situation as I did in the past.
Obesity is not a choice, but it is a consequence of your choices… it’s a small but important difference
There are a lot of medical conditions that certainly are factors. My cousin, for example has a thyroid issue that caused weight gain to be so easy that she needed surgery to reduce her excess weight. In my case, I have such a busy schedule that it's difficult to find time to work out because I'm always tired due to barely sleeping. I'm working on fixing that and have lost weight, but I've got a long way to go. Currently I'm building the right habits to eat better, and even recently changed my job to help with that since i worked food services where i got lots of free food that really was very detrimental to a healthy diet. The diet change alone has been helping with my energy levels and helping improve my sleep quality. I don't have the time or money for a gym membership yet, but I've been working on building a calisthenics routine, but the changes are still pretty new.
The thyroid issue kinda disproves the calories in vs calories out cliche that so many people think is set in stone (3rd law of thermodynamics), medical steroids have a similar effect, genes and hormones play a huge part imho.
Was your cousin overweight before the thyroid issues? A lot of medical conditions develop because of being overweight/unhealthy.
Getting obese isn’t always a choice, such as children who are fed poorly by parents who are just eating what they’ve given. STAYING obese is a choice. Whether you chose to be obese or not, choosing not to do anything about it is a choice being made.
Yep this is why we see stories all the time of kids being obese and then working out in their teenage years because it was their choice to make a change
I agree. My twins are with their Mother most of the time. Her diet is trash, so becomes my kids😞 I cannot stand it. She don't exercise either n there's nothing medically stopping her from doing so. Kids are learning horrible habits from BM n I can't do anything
@@simply11believelane47That's a whole ass excuse because you can also help them when they are with you by going out doing physical activities and showing them how to workout and creating that love for it at a young age same way I am doing with my kid, he knows how to do pull ups and push ups and does them for fun with his friends at school.
So it a choice since supply create incentives to choose
It's all about breaking the circle and that's only if you realize the damage and you want change.
I don't think I've ever met, or for that matter, ever SEEN a person who WILLINGLY wants to be obese in the most plain sense of the word ("choice"), but obesity is the result of many of continuous decisions that aren't the best for your health and physical appearance.
But there are some factors that have a blatantly obvious effect on an individual, like genetics, endocrine disorders, and gastrointestinal disorders, among others.
In the end, every single person's case is completely different and requires attention that reflects that entirely unique situation.
all that's true; the elephant in the room is the billions spent by big food to literally formulate our foods to keep us metabolically sick fat and HUNGRY all the time.
@WigganNuG ABSOLUTELY!!! Less food, or less hormonal sensation of being full, but five times the calories of WHOLE, HEALTHY foods...it's repulsive what these companies do.
@@janickgonzalez8900 it’s like you’re a frog in boiling water, did the frog choose to be boiled alive? Or did someone turn the heat on and it wasn’t aware.
Something being up to choice doesn't always mean it's easy or a one-and-done thing. Most people who are obese continuously make choices that lead to them being obese.
@principle6261 that's quite literally what I said.
Obesity isn't a choice. No one chooses obesity. It's a consequence of other choices.
Putting jubilee to shame w this
Ik Myron ruined that one honestly
@@eruptsrek2275 he was the only way who spoke his mind so no
@yazzy3177 I’ll admit he was speaking facts most the of the time, but then he’d go off on a tangent and ruin it by saying something absurd. He undermined people different experiences. Yes, at the end of the day calories in calories out, we all know that. Easier said than done.
Yeah I feel like this guy’s vid was a bit more nuanced especially with the different environments
The burger place?
I fully agree with the logic (across almost everything) that it may not be your fault, but it is your responsibility.
That fit dude on the far left probably had all his values programmed into him when he was manufactured 💀
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Fr lmaooo
He should have been sitting on the far right since its clear thats where he is.
And maybe that’s what made him a respectable man that takes care of his health🤷🏽♂️
Real 🤣
00:15 completely accurate
13:48 HAHAHAHA Jesse roasted
Wild lmao
Whoever edited this deserves an award
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I mean he went hard on his brother imagine a stranger hahah
I was obese since 8th grade. I mean when I was 28 I weighted about 198KG. I hated my self back then. didnt even want to go out or interact with anyone. have a lot of mental issues and focus issues. but now, in my 35, im about 95kg im working out every single day. Im not saying I have 6 packs or something. but im MUCH happier now adays. more motivated. more focused. just hit my PR for deadlift yesterday for 195KG. I can now lift my own weight when I was obese :)
Well done!❤
The heaviest I ever weighed was 275 pounds when I was 21. I went to the doctor because I had brain fog and felt like absolute shit. I was diagnosed with high blood pressure, had issues with my lipids and some scary heart concerns. I grew up in a low-income household and was never taught about nutrition, and growing up I mostly lived off of fast food due to the situation at home growing up.
I believe that being fat is a choice for adults, but not for children. Now, at 25, I weigh 175 pounds, work out regularly, and am mostly healthy (still on 5mg lisinopril for blood pressure). Ultimately, the decision to change your life is up to you.
Personally was around 450 at my heaviest at around 19 (195 rn) I never felt bad or anything but got Diabetes due to the weight 😬 luckily insulin is free where I live and after losing the weight I only need to take one pill daily.
@@Xielent naive take
this is true. most overweight people i know were overfed as children and never gained the work ethic or knowledge to lose weight
I’ve actually changed a lot of peoples lives by extending a hand instead of kicking them down. I’ve convinced several people to come to the gym with me and I’ve seen the incredible results and get to see them come to life and develop as they start building themselves.
Maybe 1 in 100 times fat shaming someone makes them rethink their choices. Every single time I’ve convinced someone to come have fun exercising with me, I’ve personally witnessed their crazy transformations. Those odds are faaar greater than fat shaming.
I really appreciate that you give genuine interveiw awnsers and not cherry pick the most obscene and extremist ones that make the video more grabbing
I am a certified personal trainer, I am an ex fitness model, and for the first 34 years of my life, I was thin/fit and very strong and slim. But starting at the age of about 23, I started having to fight against a degenerative disease that gives me frequent painful joint dislocations, nerve pain, and severe chronic pain. Since then, I have about 7-8 chronic illnesses (including the original EDS hypermobility, some are co-morbidities of it), and the pain has simply gotten too bad. I stopped being able to work at 27 but kept working out to try and stay out of my wheelchair. At about 34, things shifted. I stopped being able to work out very often because of how much pain I was in, my depression became severe from the sheer amount of pain I was in which means I didn't go out much. I also am immunocompromised so couldn't do much during covid which is what started the depression and isolation. So at 34, my overweightness started. It wasn't a choice. It was a shift in my life that I'm unhappy with that I'm trying to change, and because of the sheer amount of pain I'm in and the 12+ joint dislocations I have daily and the wrist brace I have to wear constantly (or whatever injury I have at the moment)....I haven't been able to fix it. I am an overweight disabled personal trainer. It's not been my choice.
I’m so sorry to hear that. I hope you get the care you deserve. This is exactly why blanket statements can be harmful as we never know what someone is going through 😢
I’m sorry to hear about your condition! I pray you find healing!! ❤
no matter how many sick you get ... is there any disease that specifically makes you eat more and more unless you die ? imagine if you had that many diseases in a third world country where it's hard to get access to food ... would you still get overweight with all those illnesses combined ? I hardly think so
It's safe to say you're an exception and not all fat people share the same story.
Quit yapping nobody cares
All it takes is one bad day or one bad health episode/diagnosis for people's bodys to change in a way they never imagined. The people like Mitch who criticize others physiques should remember that they could find themselves in those exact shoes one day and have a whole new level of understanding. Stay humble and be resepctful.
That mitch guy is the most insecure guy there 🤣🤣
Exactly.
Exactly. I never thought I'd gain all the weight back and I'd be arrogant towards others who were obese but now that I found myself in their shoes I gained a new understanding and I'm somewhat ashamed of the way I acted before.
I am so fat, nasa thought they discovered a new planet.
I feel like the fitness inlfuencers didn't understand the other side:(. I look very fit, but have always battled with binge eating but simply never get called out for it, because i'm still on the smaller side. Obviously, i work hard and go to the gym, but if i had been given different genetics it could have easily been a case of obseity. I wish the gym influencers were people who had a transformation like the guy speaking throughout the video. It gives a lot more compassion to the fact that eating dsiordders are seomtiems not a choice, but a state of being and a difficult cycle to beat. I wish i could give every single person in the is video a hug. as long as someone is trying to, that is the most important part
Yeah best thing to do on a sunday evening is to watch a new jesse video
yessir!
I've always been overweight since I was a kid. Idk, maybe thyroid issues, hard to say. Even when I put in the work, I average 200 at 5'9". The only thing that really got me doing even the basics like pushups and situps and the occasional plank was my friend KJ. He didn't shame me at all, she just said "I care about you, and I wanna be friends for longer, so you're going to work out with me". He's Indian and hard to argue with, so now I have a morning regimen. Also, I don't think obesity is a choice. I think it's a result. A result of lifestyle and genetics. Some people just have to work harder at it. I do what I can, but I'm fine with my gut. As long as I can work and live without much pain.
Keep it up brother . I’m in a similar situation and it’s nice to see someone else.
At my heaviest I was probably closer to 375lbs. My first actual weigh in was at 371.4. I gained over 170lbs in the years after my ex was killed by a drunk driver.
The short answer is that it’s a complex issue with many different variables from person to person. But it can be a choice and people can make the change I’m living proof of it.
I’ll have to make a video on this to lay out all my thoughts on this because I see it as much bigger than just obesity.
People are quick to point at the fat person (a visual manifestation of coping) so you don’t see the unhealthy ways they cope with the problems in their own lives.
Doesn’t make being obese any less unhealthy, but that’s where I see some people’s discomfort coming from like the fella talking about shaming his family.
I am sorry to hear what you went through. I think you said it well. Obessity is often a physical manifestation of coping that people point at,ignoring their own unhealthy coping skills(like anti fat guy in video). Keep pushing man!
@ thank you! I really appreciate the encouragement it’s been a long journey.
This narrative appears sympathetic, but is actually extremely stigmatizing. Fatness is not a visual manifestation of trauma or whatever. Yes, some fat people eat as a coping mechanism, but this probably applies to a small minority of people. The real cause is food drive, most fat people just need to eat more food to feel normal than thin people do. This is why GLP1 agonists like Ozempic work, they're not reducing trauma, they're reducing subconscious food drive. It's not meaningfully a choice.
You're not "living proof" of anything, everyone knows it's possible to lose weight. You losing weight does not prove everyone can lose weight if they just try hard enough. I've seen people in my life successfully and unsuccessfully try to lose weight, the difference was not effort. The difference was that one of them developed an eating disorder.
"This man is overweight," bro That guy looked so pissed 😂 crazy way to start the video
It looked like just a neutral face to me lol
I love the mini documenterys he started doing. I know it soo much time to make this but the outcome is so worth it love the new content msn cant wait to see whats next
Got hooked from the short. Great content idea
I was a normal, healthy 14 year old - then I had 3 life threatening asthma attacks in the space of 6 months - these were severe attacks that kept me in hospital for weeks at a time, on heavy doses of hydrocortisone and other drugs that wrecked my health. I spent the next 18 months on big doses of cortico-steroids to control my asthma. I went from 125 pounds to over 180 pounds, though I was eating a normal healthy diet - there were no splurges on sugary foods or fatty, carb laden foods, we lived out in the country and basically lived off the land. But I put on massive amounts of weight over the next year, though I had been gradually weaned off the steroids - and I could not shift that weight.
Strangely, the next year, I lost about half the excess weight, then suddenly, without any change in diet, gained a massive amount again. I felt tired all the time, I slept 12 hours a day, I was cold all the time, my hair was thinning and I couldn’t think straight. This pattern of sudden weight gains and losses continued for years. It destroyed my late teens and early twenties. Various doctors basically told me i was lying about not being an overeater. Others prescribed anti-depressants, though I had never identified as depressed, I was even told I could be bipolar, because when I was losing weight I was energetic, even excitable, emotionally lábiles, hard to keep up with, but when I was gaining weight, I was slow, placid - it was like two personalities to the outside observer! This went on for years, until eventually i went into an unending decline for months.
Fortunately a friend of my mother’s came to visit while I was staying with her, having given up my job due to total inability to perform any of the work. The friend told me to go get a specific blood test for
TSH. A few dates later my doctor rang sounding rather panicked. She asked me to come down and see her straight away. She revealed that the test for TSH had come back with the highest reading she had ever seen or heard of. TSH stands for thyroid stimulating hormone. It’s the hormone that your thyroid gland needs to operate. Normally my thyroid gland had stopped operating completely after more than a decade and a half of alternating between hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism, hence the rollercoaster ride with my weight and physical energies and abilities.
Stop blaming all fat people for the weight that they carry. Yes, some people have bad habits when it comes to eating., some people have a genetic predisposition to forming and keeping adipose tissue. Some people genuinely have hormonal imbalances that are beyond their control.
I have now been on a thyroid supplement for decades. I have no thyroid gland left, it got cleaned up and just disappeared. I can’t put up the amount of thyroxine that I take on a daily basis because it could cause heart arrhythmia or worse… I am stuck with a metabolism that is artificially mediated. I gain weight on anything over 1300 cal per day. I need a low-carb diet, with lots of protein and I still find it incredibly difficult to maintain a healthy weight. I work out in the gym three times a week. I do HIIT cardio another three days, I get seven hours sleep at night, I do not eat excessively. Theoretically, I should be able to maintain an ideal body weight on 2200 cal. This is impossible for me no matter how much exercise I do, I would have to be going all day long. I’m a busy person with work to do as I’m responsible as a full-time carer for a disabled person.
Be careful when judging fat people, you don’t know the struggle they may have experienced and be experiencing
Anything the FDA recommends, I now do the opposite. Health and Beauty Mastery by Julian Bannett book exposes so many shocking truths about the health industry. I completely changed my habits.
thanks
truly a great book
i got it
Scam website lmao
Fun scary fact. In order for an FDA product to be approved, it has to have a kill rate. Read that again.
Dr. Mike coming in with a solid analogy. Always appreciate it
He was 100% trolling lmao...being FAT is a choice !
@@S.V.23 Did he sound like he was trolling?
It was a pretty bad analogy. Obesity is the result of many continuous bad choices. A choice doesn't always mean something has to be easy or happen in an instant. You can choose to do something that is less comfortable.
@@S.V.23 prove it!
Its about context. He stated "active" choice. No one is actively making the choice that they want to be fat, obese, or what have you. The only people spouting that they "choose" to be fat are the ones that have already gone too far, and don't know how to go back, so they portray it as being their choice. Yes, many factors lead to becoming fat or obese, many of them are choices that inadvertently lead to weight gain, but the intent is what matters. NOW, if you want to argue that someone makes the choice to do nothing about being fat, then 100%, that is their choice not to fix the problem that they created over the course of their life, they're actively making the choice to say screw it, I'm not going to do anything about it. What I liked about the shirt analogy is that it is simple. You wake up in the morning, you make the choice to wear your favorite shirt, but you don't tell yourself every morning "Hey, I'm gonna wear my favorite fat suit". But, at the end of the day it's a semantics argument. If you think it's a jank analogy, then cool beans man. Personally, it put a complex issue into an easy to understand analogy, and I dig it.
People in general need to be working on their health. Just because you are skinny does not mean you arent as lazy as the obese person. Unless you are actively working on your health each day then you dont have anything to say. We should be encouraging people to make positive changes in their life, not trashing them.
12:49 he cooked
It is more effective to inspire than to command
Obesity for most people is the product of a 1000(s) negative choices, and the tough part is it takes 1000 positive choices to get out of.
Jeff nippard I think made the best answer to the question. Yes it's a series of choices and also just circumstances that nobody chooses. You have no control over if your brain tells you to eat and you always hungry. You do have to a large extent choices of how you address that like what you eat but knowing what's the right choices isn't necessarily easy. It's complicated.
The question about the plane seat is silly because the seats are just small. I’ve sat next to body builders and have been just as uncomfortable as when sitting next to obese people.
Even just normal dudes with slightly above average height suck to sit next to because the seats aren't designed for the length of their legs or width of their shoulders.
@@jakemaxwell3810 so they should buy two seats
That guy in the plaid shirt talking about "descriptor words" made an excellent point that transcends this issue by a lot. He implied that intent was more important than word usage when determining prejudice or bias. That's something we all need shoved in our ears and eyes more regularly.
Thanks, Plaid guy
DR MIKE IS WILDIN 😂 5:07
“Here to stay positive💪🏻”
"mental toughness" wtf is that, that one guys mental toxicity is so corny. You dont have to starve yourself for 10 days, you can just track macros like a normal person.
Clearly you don’t know who Mitch Aguiar is. He’s a navy seal combat veteran and the owner of MASF supplements. Mitch speaks the truth and doesn’t sugar coat shit.
if he can do it for 10 days, how easy it is for other people to put the fork down for a few hours.
@@DomenicSacco Being a vet doesn't give him any authority on health, fitness, or diet. People that actually have knowledge on that topic would be someone like Dr. Israetel, who spoke in this video on the complexity of the obesity epidemic, and that it is not someone's fault, but it is their responsibility.
They think they aren’t eating much but you become normalized to eating large portions then you think it’s not much.
imagine how much better a place the world would be if more people were capable of thinking about and discussing a subject with the nuance that Dr. Mike brings to this subject.
Mike is an idiot. Not one of his analogues made sense. What does wearing a purple shirt have to do with not choosing to be fat😂
99% of the time, being fat is a choice. Most people who are fat and have medical conditions got those medical conditions because they were fat and unhealthy.
It's your choice to eat highly processed, high calorie foods or not. It's your choice to prioritise fitness and health above other things.
Mike is Coping as hell in here.
@DzaMiQ I mean... really? Sure he wasn't able to get lean enough to be competitive, but then again we're in danger of comparing pro level body building with genpop and I feel like mike is providing his view about the latter 🤷♂️
2 different worlds, and I don't think there is any doubt as to whether some people put on and retain fat and higher rates than others.
@@BjerkeRobin of corse there are different factors at play when it comes to how fast someone burns fat. But to say in any shape or form that you have no power over being fat or get in shape is just next level of copemaxxing.
I think it's a choice sometimes, but other times it can be out of your control. There's a girl in my college class with a mobility problem, and she's quite overweight. I'm sure she could definitely eat healthier, but at the same time, exercise isn't really an option for her. I also heard a story about this woman who has held hostage by her boyfriend, and she became obese as a result of trauma.
Ur Name is Legitsiu🙌🍻
Jesse's content just keeps getting better and better
"I'm excited to wake up. Do you know how crazy that is?"
He just described what many people wish to feel and do find crazy because they're struggling so badly. That's not even just for obesity, it's for a lot of other things too.
Jesse you are the man, always pushing the threshold with real wholesome content, your genuine self and humility with people is an absolute rarity on the internet these days.
I agree mostly with this video. But one factor that was not mentioned was medications an individual may be on. For example, I am a breast cancer survivor, but the medication I have to take causes weight gain. I have gained 5 lb in 6 months. I go to the gym 4 to 5 times a week and eat less than 1500 calories a day, and I have to be on this medication for 5 years. As someone who has always been on the thinner side, it's hard for me to accept that, and my mental health and self confidence is suffering.
2:50 Sometimes I disagree with Mike, but he nailed it. Its not a choice. A better way to pose the question is "Are people deliberately being fat?"
His explanation couldn't of made LESS sense in my view. It's like saying do people CHOOSE to go to them gym? By his argument then NO no one chooses to go to the gym, which is a complete fraudulent lie.
@Brandon-vd7er You definitely demonstrated in your example how you didn't understand his example.
What he's saying is he disagrees with the premise of the question. No one would deliberately choose to be obese if they had a one-time, binary decision to make. That's his point.
The fact is that it's a hard choice. Being consistent with your diet, tracking your calories, and exercising for years is in fact a choice. Or rather choices you make everday. Boiling it down to a comparison of which shirt you are wearing simply doesn't make sense in the first place. And because it is such a hard choice to take care of your health, when you've been obese for so long, people would obviously just refuse accountability.
Yes. It’s pretty clear that people who are obese fall into different categories, it’s unfair to label them under one big header of “Lazy and undisciplined”.
I see now that for some people it is a case where they are lazy and undisciplined. Others have been obese since childhood which only got worse in adulthood. Others have lower metabolism, others have more medical complications. So on.
I think Dr Mike’s statement is a perfect way to capture this case by case scenario. It’s really easy to understand what he’s trying to put down, it seems to me like other people are just still trying to find a way to shit on fat people.
This problem is too complex to just label it one thing or the other.
In addition, I think whoever said being obese is a disease is on to something. I wouldn’t label it as an ED, but its own thing.
@@DefeatLust
"Just because it takes more than a 1 time binary decision, that means it's no longer a choice? Huh? "
When did he say that? He just said, if there's a 1 time binary decision and everyone would choose A instead of B, it's not really a choice.
It's not even a 1 time decision, because people already had to choose to be overweight or not, if being overweight was a choice.
"That's a series of small CHOICES that you CHOSE and got the inevitable result."
Correct, you choose to eat that candy bar. You didn't choose to become fat. You choose your actions, not reactions.
I’ve been obese twice in my life, the second time was the heaviest ever and I was Type 2 Obese and almost 300 lbs and I chose that life!!! I ate junk daily and all day with 0 thought to eating Whole Foods and neverrr exercised neither, simply because I didn’t want to.
10:06 “Im exited to wake up every morning” some people won’t get how deep that is
I only rarely had those mornings in my life, damn
@@fart_a_lotti I feel like the last time I had morning like that was when I was 12 🤣
@@hunk88 as someone who was bullied in school, last time when I had morning like that I was maybe 8💀
@@Hope_On_The_Stage even worse😂, glad to know im not the only one though.
Greg is gonna have a blast with this one
Can’t wait😂
perfect for cookbook content lol
Honestly I don’t find douchette to be that much better than Myron
if i get 2 greg videos reviewing me back to back, ima freak out.
you mean I'm gonna blast to Greg
14:33 yeah they don't battle with obesity because there is not enough food to eat! Seriously what got into this guy?
Yeah this guy sucks
@@Mehenricksfr fr
Do you all not recognize that food is not the only contribution to obesity? It is a large one, but genetics, literally being born that way, metabolism, all of that comes into play as well.
That dude is a joke "I go 10 days without food just for the mental toughness" yeah that's a mental illness bro
I was fat shamed as a kid by my friends(I love them for it) and it is hands down what made me change and now I am much stronger and leaner
As a former obese person (I weighed close to 300 pounds when I was just 16 years old and eventually got down to 185), I can confidently say that obesity is a choice. However, it has a lot to do with some particular mental issues like depression which laziness, binge eating and addiction can come from. One day with the help of my close friend, he introduced me to fitness and proper nutrition and in the beginning I hated it, but I hated myself and my body even more, so I decided to make a change, it wasn't easy but through all of that I became a Massage Therapist and a high level Personal Trainer. The body obeys the mind, even people with many types of "diseases" still try to live healthy and that is a choice they make to sustain their life as long as they can.
So you literally just described how obesity is not a choice because no one chooses to have mental health issues that result in obesity. It's not an active choice. People choose the food that they eat, but they do not choose to eat compulsively, nor do they consciously choose to binge. Saying obesity is a choice is like saying people with anorexia choose to develop osteoporosis. These things are consequences of underlying mental/physical/environmental factors.
If obesity was a choice, then all the people who undergo gastric bypasses would remain thin, and none of them would regain any of the weight. You would have to argue that they chose to have invasive surgery only to choose to still be obese despite going to drastic lengths to fix it. They relapse because they have untreated illnesses, which means it's not a choice, obesity is closer to a symptom of an underlying problem.
12:27 He in the middle does not want to be there 😂
Appreciate you making this video and shedding light on what could be a difficult subject. Nice job Jesse!
I love how positive this vid is ❤❤ at least they are in the gym!
6:42 did he jus cut him off in between😭😭
That's just evil
Yeah dawg😂
hes spitting
He responded. “He said I did know that”
12:38 dude said it better in 20 seconds than the other dudes who rambling
1:50 this dude has it right. He understands that while it would benefit him to have the free seat, he also knows that he shouldn't get it simply because of his size.
Where is the full video of the debate? I want to see what everyone one said, how it was said, and how the other guests reacted.
Omg Mitch, bullying people does not help!!! Positivity and encouragement to be your best is helpful
12:07 alright this guy is something else 💀🤣
Mitch? If so yeah I agree he seems like a jerk
Something people dont always understand is if your obese and on steroids you both have very similar health conditions. Especially if say someone is 250 plus pounds of muscle, your heart still has to work overtime
I was thin my whole life as soon as i hit adulthood i started to gain belly fat. I fast and try ro not eat sweets or processed foods. I even went to the gym for a few months and worked out for hours at a time. It felt like nothing helped me lose weight. I kinda just gave up.
health and fitness takes a lot of trial and error. a lot of the time fasting doesn’t work because it puts your body under stress, causing it to hold onto the calories it thinks it needs, and trying to gain muscle is harder w/o proper nutrition. (not a dietitian, just based on my own journey) don’t give up! having a healthy body improves every piece of your life