So, here is the thing about the VFR1200F DCT (automatic).... It is NOT exclusively an automatic. It can be "Automatic" if you set it in that mode (D or S), and it does the automatic very very well. The "DRIVE" mode should be called "ECO", because that is what it is.... 6th gear going 40mph here in Texas..... and I LOVE that D mode when i want to save gas. Slip it into S "SPORT" and it is not a subtle change, it is a MONSTROUS change in the machine. Turns it into a V4 juggernaut, very much ready for track day, or the back roads twists, or even a drag race. It almost feels electric after 2nd gear, like my friend's TESLA in Ludicrous mode. The Automatic is hated by most, UNTIL they actually try it, then it all makes sense. And don't even get me started at what a benefit it is when you come over a hill and find yourself in horrible traffic. That alone is a good reason to have the automatic. Just gas and brake, as if you were in a car. NOW imagine, you are on your VFR1200F DCT and you are cruisin' in DRIVE mode (eco) and see an open stretch of road that is begging for you to hit it hard.... ALL that you must do is press the " - " or " + ", to downshift or upshift, and you let it rip. You can go through the gears up or down as needed, and the VFR1200 has rev matching technology, so there is no heavy engine drag on you when you downshift. The shifts are amazing, the power will try to rip the bars out of your hands. it is THAT powerful. And HONDA nailed it on the linked braking system with ABS. The brakes are the best I have ever experienced on any bike...... so, if the Formula 1 guys got it right, popping through the gears with their paddle shifters, up and down..... imagine a bike where you can do the same thing. Well, here it is, the VFR 1200F DCT. I test drove both the standard shift, and the DCT models. Both were amazing bikes. I had to have the DCT with the auto trans & paddle shifters. I have NOT regretted it for a moment. My other bikes are jealous of this thing. I am happy to answer any questions anyone has about this bike.
lol....for me this is now the best on the market! I want it in white color. Perfect.....excellent for tours, and has enough power, automatic...perfect......Thx Honda...I have been waiting for a bike like this for years....
7:40 - Why not for a track day? It's better suited then a manual since it shifts (a lot) faster in manual mode then a normal manual clutch gearbox. Sure it's no race bike, but if you were to compare a manual to a dct VFR on a track, I'm 100% sure the DCT would be faster.
.Have you tried one yet, its very odd, but a lot of fun! Aimed more at the beginner rider than an expert, but soon, your right, they will be able to keep up. Once they get the tip tronic technology as good as they have in cars, ie when you select the gear it is instantly in etc it will defo make it onto race bikes, but that is some way off yet!
Respond to this video... Its defo getting there, but for that kind of thing you still need a clutch to give you the extreme speed stability, hence why no racers use this system yet, or it would have been put on race bikes already. Good to see you back mate!!
I moved to a Burgman earlier in the year due to hand disablity , I can see this bike as a good alternative that would let me ride bikes again, just a shame about the price though :(
I like how everyone just assumes there's no need for an automatic because they would never ride one -if not for the automatic myself and many, from what I see on other sites -really want to ride them -I looove my ctx automatic and before that I had a 78 hondamatic
Uptown disco...there is a cheaper aprillia out now with the same system mate too! Oh and yeah, plastics might cost a bit if you scraped guys.......didn't think of that lol! Merry xmas
@W00LFY100 Cheers mate!! yeah been a bit manic, moved back to london, left Kerrang Radio, so I can put more into this kind of thing!! So loads coming, RSV4 on the way!!
@CORNABY242 Yeah man, I agree, at first I wasnt sure, but when you see it without paniers etc, it really grew on me!! And of course, in white, everyone gives you loads of respect on the road, because they think your a copper! ;-)
Have you ridden it mate? YOu mean engine braking? Yeah actually, you can with the tiptronic controls if you want, and as its always in gear, there is some engine breaking there!! Ps, a lot fo people agree with the ugly thing, but as there is no right or wrong only opinion in those matters, it's all in the eye of the beholder! I kinda like it in a Streethawk type way! Nice comments though lol!
@dbauernf Ps an amateur would prob go quicker to be fair yes, thinking about it, and give it time, but yeah the engine breaking and stability you get from the clutch (ie using engine braking to settle the back of the bike down down, and transfer weight to the back wheel before you turn in) would be non existent!! But in time defo!
Why thank you so much! What a refreshing comment :-) Do you know me?? Oh hang on you don't - oh okay, well here is the deal - go get funding - and give it a go fella! That's what I did, and I now make a TV Show about motorbikes across the whole of Europe :-) Its fun being paid to be an ugly geek :-)
@richardhughes289 Well first I got a national rock Radio show here in the UK, then used all of my power and wealth to wrangle free bikes, so i could quit the radio and do this full time ;-)
So, here is the thing about the DCT (automatic).... It is NOT exclusively an automatic. It can be "Automatic" if you set it in that mode (D or S), and it does the automatic very very well. The "DRIVE" mode should be called "ECO", because that is what it is.... 6th gear going 40mph here in Texas..... and I LOVE that D mode when i want to save gas. Slip it into S "SPORT" and it is not a subtle change, it is a MONSTROUS change in the machine. Turns it into a V4 juggernaut, very much ready for track day, or the back roads twists, or even a drag race. It almost feels electric after 2nd gear, like my friend's TESLA in Ludicrous mode. The Automatic is hated by most, UNTIL they actually try it, then it all makes sense. And don't even get me started at what a benefit it is when you come over a hill and find yourself in horrible traffic. That alone is a good reason to have the automatic. Just gas and brake, as if you were in a car. NOW imagine, you are on your VFR1200F DCT and you are cruisin' in DRIVE mode (eco) and see an open stretch of road that is begging for you to hit it hard.... ALL that you must do is press the " - " or " + ", to downshift or upshift, and you let it rip. You can go through the gears up or down as needed, and the VFR1200 has rev matching technology, so there is no heavy engine drag on you when you downshift. The shifts are amazing, the power will try to rip the bars out of your hands. it is THAT powerful. And HONDA nailed it on the linked braking system with ABS. The brakes are the best I have ever experienced on any bike...... so, if the Formula 1 guys got it right, popping through the gears with their paddle shifters, up and down..... imagine a bike where you can do the same thing. Well, here it is, the VFR 1200F DCT. I test drove both the standard shift, and the DCT models. Both were amazing bikes. I had to have the DCT with the auto trans & paddle shifters. I have NOT regretted it for a moment. My other bikes are jealous of this thing. I am happy to answer any questions anyone has about this bike.
So, here is the thing about the VFR1200F DCT (automatic).... It is NOT exclusively an automatic. It can be "Automatic" if you set it in that mode (D or S), and it does the automatic very very well. The "DRIVE" mode should be called "ECO", because that is what it is.... 6th gear going 40mph here in Texas..... and I LOVE that D mode when i want to save gas. Slip it into S "SPORT" and it is not a subtle change, it is a MONSTROUS change in the machine. Turns it into a V4 juggernaut, very much ready for track day, or the back roads twists, or even a drag race. It almost feels electric after 2nd gear, like my friend's TESLA in Ludicrous mode. The Automatic is hated by most, UNTIL they actually try it, then it all makes sense. And don't even get me started at what a benefit it is when you come over a hill and find yourself in horrible traffic. That alone is a good reason to have the automatic. Just gas and brake, as if you were in a car. NOW imagine, you are on your VFR1200F DCT and you are cruisin' in DRIVE mode (eco) and see an open stretch of road that is begging for you to hit it hard.... ALL that you must do is press the " - " or " + ", to downshift or upshift, and you let it rip. You can go through the gears up or down as needed, and the VFR1200 has rev matching technology, so there is no heavy engine drag on you when you downshift. The shifts are amazing, the power will try to rip the bars out of your hands. it is THAT powerful. And HONDA nailed it on the linked braking system with ABS. The brakes are the best I have ever experienced on any bike...... so, if the Formula 1 guys got it right, popping through the gears with their paddle shifters, up and down..... imagine a bike where you can do the same thing. Well, here it is, the VFR 1200F DCT. I test drove both the standard shift, and the DCT models. Both were amazing bikes. I had to have the DCT with the auto trans & paddle shifters. I have NOT regretted it for a moment. My other bikes are jealous of this thing. I am happy to answer any questions anyone has about this bike.
Hank M would you recommend this for new riders?
lol....for me this is now the best on the market! I want it in white color. Perfect.....excellent for tours, and has enough power, automatic...perfect......Thx Honda...I have been waiting for a bike like this for years....
I'm from Chicago and I love it.👍👍👍👍👍
This is the best of the DCT reviews I could find. Sold on this bike
Your channel has just become awesome buddy, wish you were still uploading to UA-cam!
I need this bike in my life
I actually like the design of the vfr 1200, honda have dared to be different and i think its fair to say it is a unique machine.
7:40 - Why not for a track day? It's better suited then a manual since it shifts (a lot) faster in manual mode then a normal manual clutch gearbox. Sure it's no race bike, but if you were to compare a manual to a dct VFR on a track, I'm 100% sure the DCT would be faster.
Nice to see you getting the vids up again. I've been getting withdrawel symptoms lol
Hi luke, great reviews! I'm swapping to a Hornet 900 after seeing your review :)
.Have you tried one yet, its very odd, but a lot of fun! Aimed more at the beginner rider than an expert, but soon, your right, they will be able to keep up. Once they get the tip tronic technology as good as they have in cars, ie when you select the gear it is instantly in etc it will defo make it onto race bikes, but that is some way off yet!
Respond to this video...
Its defo getting there, but for that kind of thing you still need a clutch to give you the extreme speed stability, hence why no racers use this system yet, or it would have been put on race bikes already. Good to see you back mate!!
Luke are you going to do any more diaries? missing your bike content dude
Hi Luke, what is the bike show called your working on? What channel and when is it due to come out?
I moved to a Burgman earlier in the year due to hand disablity , I can see this bike as a good alternative that would let me ride bikes again, just a shame about the price though :(
Can anyone tell me if the throttle be revved in neutral ?
I like the idea of a 170bhp 1200cc scooter!
I like how everyone just assumes there's no need for an automatic because they would never ride one -if not for the automatic myself and many, from what I see on other sites -really want to ride them -I looove my ctx automatic and before that I had a 78 hondamatic
I absolutely love this bike. Does anyone know if the automatic model spends more fuel than the manual model?
Great review... sold me on the DVT!
Uptown disco...there is a cheaper aprillia out now with the same system mate too! Oh and yeah, plastics might cost a bit if you scraped guys.......didn't think of that lol! Merry xmas
Which one do you like more manual or DCT version?
@W00LFY100 Cheers mate!! yeah been a bit manic, moved back to london, left Kerrang Radio, so I can put more into this kind of thing!! So loads coming, RSV4 on the way!!
Did I hear you say this bike is aimed at people learning to ride?
@motorcycleluke It was great.. :) Happy New year too! :)
I like the white on that VFR. Now that 600 RR Looks so sexy behind him!
Good review thanks, I am pretty much sold.
what is a lighter bike similar to that 1200 dct?
Honda CTX 700
@CORNABY242 Yeah man, I agree, at first I wasnt sure, but when you see it without paniers etc, it really grew on me!! And of course, in white, everyone gives you loads of respect on the road, because they think your a copper! ;-)
what does DCT mean?
Don't understand havin to look at mugs when listening to the comments and looking at the machines attributes would be so very much preferred....
Price?
coh imagine if you dropped this on it's side, looks like it would be a lot of money in plastics
Haha Top Bloke that's him Told! I ride a VFR800
@dbauernf Hope my answer makes sense bro lol! Had to do it in like two posts as I wanted to say so much! How was your xmas too - a good one i hope?
@TriHerald I believe so mate!
Have you ridden it mate? YOu mean engine braking? Yeah actually, you can with the tiptronic controls if you want, and as its always in gear, there is some engine breaking there!!
Ps, a lot fo people agree with the ugly thing, but as there is no right or wrong only opinion in those matters, it's all in the eye of the beholder! I kinda like it in a Streethawk type way! Nice comments though lol!
gracias por tu video!
You really need to hold the camera steady Sir
@dbauernf Ps an amateur would prob go quicker to be fair yes, thinking about it, and give it time, but yeah the engine breaking and stability you get from the clutch (ie using engine braking to settle the back of the bike down down, and transfer weight to the back wheel before you turn in) would be non existent!!
But in time defo!
Que gran moto!!!!
Nice reply to that idiot Luke, loving the shows. Your doing something you love so keep up the good work.
Why thank you so much! What a refreshing comment :-) Do you know me?? Oh hang on you don't - oh okay, well here is the deal - go get funding - and give it a go fella! That's what I did, and I now make a TV Show about motorbikes across the whole of Europe :-) Its fun being paid to be an ugly geek :-)
dual clutch transmission
@richardhughes289 Well first I got a national rock Radio show here in the UK, then used all of my power and wealth to wrangle free bikes, so i could quit the radio and do this full time ;-)
Luke, as a foreign viewer: speak more slowly please.
Sorry, but we see too much of your face when you're talking, please spend more time filming the bike instead
: )
What's the point of making it automatic? Boring!
So, here is the thing about the DCT (automatic).... It is NOT exclusively an automatic. It can be "Automatic" if you set it in that mode (D or S), and it does the automatic very very well. The "DRIVE" mode should be called "ECO", because that is what it is.... 6th gear going 40mph here in Texas..... and I LOVE that D mode when i want to save gas. Slip it into S "SPORT" and it is not a subtle change, it is a MONSTROUS change in the machine. Turns it into a V4 juggernaut, very much ready for track day, or the back roads twists, or even a drag race. It almost feels electric after 2nd gear, like my friend's TESLA in Ludicrous mode. The Automatic is hated by most, UNTIL they actually try it, then it all makes sense. And don't even get me started at what a benefit it is when you come over a hill and find yourself in horrible traffic. That alone is a good reason to have the automatic. Just gas and brake, as if you were in a car. NOW imagine, you are on your VFR1200F DCT and you are cruisin' in DRIVE mode (eco) and see an open stretch of road that is begging for you to hit it hard.... ALL that you must do is press the " - " or " + ", to downshift or upshift, and you let it rip. You can go through the gears up or down as needed, and the VFR1200 has rev matching technology, so there is no heavy engine drag on you when you downshift. The shifts are amazing, the power will try to rip the bars out of your hands. it is THAT powerful. And HONDA nailed it on the linked braking system with ABS. The brakes are the best I have ever experienced on any bike...... so, if the Formula 1 guys got it right, popping through the gears with their paddle shifters, up and down..... imagine a bike where you can do the same thing. Well, here it is, the VFR 1200F DCT. I test drove both the standard shift, and the DCT models. Both were amazing bikes. I had to have the DCT with the auto trans & paddle shifters. I have NOT regretted it for a moment. My other bikes are jealous of this thing. I am happy to answer any questions anyone has about this bike.