Majora's Mask is One Big Buddhist Metaphor and Here's Why (NEW DISCOVERIES)

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
  • Welcome to my first ever video on The Legend of Zelda. Zelda has always been a huge blindspot for me. Up until last year, the closest I had ever gotten to a Zelda game was when I played an hour of Ocarina of Time about a year ago. Then last year, I put out a post asking people if I ever did a video on a Zelda game, which one should I do, and the response I got was overwhelmingly in favor of Majora's Mask. That said, I did play Ocarina of Time first anyway (because of its legendary status and because it comes before Majora's Mask chronologically). It took me a full year to get to Majora's Mask, and I'm so regretful that it took me this long. This game's lore is OFF. THE. CHAIN.
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    1. Introduction (My History with Zelda): 0:00 - 1:07
    2. Majora's Mask Thesis (Buddhism): 1:08 - 3:31
    3. Termina and the 3-Day Cycle: 3:32 - 6:37
    4. Zeltik's Video on the Fierce Deity: 6:38 - 8:29
    5. Why Does Link Look Like the Fierce Deity: 8:30 - 11:55
    6. The Inspiration for the Four Giants: 11:56 - 14:30
    7. Giants, Buddhas and Elements: 14:31 - 16:49
    8. Speculation Regarding the Moon: 16:50 - 18:43
    9. Summary (and Fierce Deity's Sword): 18:44 - 19:27
    10. Outro: 19:28 - 20:15
    Zeltik's Video on the Fierce Deity and Buddhism: • The Fierce Deity Unmas...
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  • @the8thgate543
    @the8thgate543 10 місяців тому +170

    The mask concept of this game was also most likely inspired by Tibetan Buddhism. The Tibetan see the masks as a symbolic manifestation of their inner enemies. They do not believe that anyone has any enemies (externally), but that the only enemies we have are internal. In the game, we are led to believe that Skull kid is antagonist, or enemy. Then we figure out that Skull kid is only being used as a puppet by the mask. So the mask must be evil, it must be the enemy. But the evil aura that the mask mask possessed was a manifestation of the inner darkness of the Skull kid. Also, the majora’s mask is in the shape of a heart. The Skull Kid must confront the darkness within to overcome his suffering. Which happens by the end of the game, and the happy mask salesman noted that the evil aura of the mask has finally left it. At this point, the Skull Kid has finally overcome his inner darkness. In OoT, when Link is in the water temple, he faces Dark Link, which is the same symbolic representation. Navi tells Link to conquer his dark self. And so in OoT Link has already conquered his darkness, in Majora’s Mask he is someone that is helping the Skull Kid to conquer his inner darkness as well. The Skull Kid or Majora was never Link’s enemy, Link was just someone who wanted to stop the cataclysm and to help/free all beings from suffering
    Our protagonist Link is the bodhisattva. One who has achieved nirvana but has delayed it to free all sentient beings from suffering. In the ending credits, the everyone is all happy and you see the Deku Butler mourning the tragedy of his son. Letting us know that it’s pretty much impossible to save everyone from their suffering. This is reinforced throughout the game whenever Link helps someone in a sidequest, time will restart due to the 3 day cycle, and everything starts back to square 1.

    • @Scrollskillups
      @Scrollskillups 10 місяців тому +5

      This comment felt like I wrote it ha I’m just here to say that was a good comment man and yea he has delayed it to help others. Ha also fierce deity has eyes when puttin on the mask. Showing he isn’t blinded he is aware.

    • @ZeranZeran
      @ZeranZeran 10 місяців тому +7

      Probably going to seem very random, as a young kid that the Jackie Chan cartoon actually teaches this in detail, and even makes sure to differntiate between Oni masks, and other ancient Chinese and Japanese artifacts. Very ahead of its time, and not preachy about it. I thought that the fact that these amazing monsters were based on ancient creatures or legends was so just cool, and I still do. Makes it seem more real. Watching this video totally took me back to learning about that and even researching more about it on my own as a kid. Never thought I'd see them again :).

    • @ZeranZeran
      @ZeranZeran 10 місяців тому +3

      Also, great catch on the water temple and Link fighting his shadow self.. I sort of got the meaning, but never connected it in this way. Great comment.

  • @brettrichardson7924
    @brettrichardson7924 10 місяців тому +93

    love how majoras mask not explaining itself allowed its art to really come through and shine.

    • @Crichjo32
      @Crichjo32 10 місяців тому +6

      This is something Japanese developers do so well compared to Western developers. Games like Zelda and Dark Souls, let their design and symbolism do the storytelling rather than directly telling you.

    • @John-ne4fq
      @John-ne4fq Місяць тому

      Yeah I tried so hard to decipher it but so much of the game is probably only symbolic and meaningful personally to the creators themselves and will never truly be understood which always leaves it with an air of mystery and also personal interpretation of the person who plays it. This is how symbolism has been used for thousands of years. There is no one right answer

  • @st.anselmsfire3547
    @st.anselmsfire3547 10 місяців тому +76

    There's actually a lot of Buddhism in the Zelda series. A big part is how reincarnation seems to work. The main characters aren't rebirths of their previous selves so much as avatars. Zelda is an avatar of Hylia, for instance, and Ganon/Ganondorf is an avatar of Demise. And Link seems to be an avatar of some kind of spirit of the hero. It's really interesting, and it explains how you can have multiple Zeldas hanging out at the same time (as in Adventure of Link) or two Links (as in Link Between Worlds and Twilight Princess).

    • @Medicalguy
      @Medicalguy 10 місяців тому +7

      Or two Ganondorfs after the revelation in ToTK. One locked beneath the castle for all time and the others rising and falling during that time

    • @chilldragon4752
      @chilldragon4752 10 місяців тому

      Great point.

    • @user-dy7ls7uo9j
      @user-dy7ls7uo9j 10 місяців тому

      avatar is a concept within hinduism tho

    • @axonn101
      @axonn101 10 місяців тому +5

      I don’t think Zelda is necessarily the avatar of Hylia. In Skyword Sword we find out that Hylia does not exist in her spiritual form anymore. Zelda is Hylia. Hylia does not exist somewhere else non-physically.
      Ganondorf/Ganon is also not the avatar of Demise. Ganondorf is separate for the most part. Demise curses Zelda and Link at the end of Skyword Sword that his hatred will follow them. The “soul” of Demise is sealed in the Master Sword but his hatred in incarnate within Ganon. Though to be clear it is possible that Ganon could be permanently killed. Ganondorf is almost certainly dead by the end of Windwaker and Twilight Princess. The Ganondorf we see in Tears of the Kingdom is a different person.
      Link is a bit more difficult to define. Demise’s curse says that so long as the incarnation of Hylia and the one with the “soul of the hero” exist then his hatred will as well. But Link does not seem to be reincarnated in the way Hylia is through Zelda. Each Link is his own person. It just seems that in times of need the “soul of the hero,” which is most likely the original Link from Skyward Sword, comes back to help Zelda.

    • @victorturnage4188
      @victorturnage4188 10 місяців тому

      Theres a lot of greek too.

  • @yppiehageltoster465
    @yppiehageltoster465 10 місяців тому +604

    Max's analyses are always autism fueled masterpieces

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  10 місяців тому +246

      No truer statement has ever been made.

    • @saerain
      @saerain 10 місяців тому +19

      *analyses 🧐

    • @benfrancois7856
      @benfrancois7856 10 місяців тому +7

      This is true said the blind man to the def man lol I'm just kidding yes max is by far on of my favorite UA-camrs

    • @Indi_51
      @Indi_51 10 місяців тому +4

      You got that right, and I adore it! Dang, the script is genius!

    • @HyLo-rule
      @HyLo-rule 10 місяців тому +12

      i laughed way too hard at "autism fueled masterpiece"

  • @chrizzel28
    @chrizzel28 10 місяців тому +223

    I'm extremely happy to see you branching out to another series I love. Always a pleasure to see you covering things like that.

    • @BlackedURsister
      @BlackedURsister 10 місяців тому

      Zelda is for girls tho , well and bottoms , it’s on Nintendo. Only girls got Nintendo consoles , boys got PlayStation and Xbox . I only knew girls with fake cube and switch wii etc

  • @MBulteau
    @MBulteau 10 місяців тому +25

    Great analysis! I always felt that Link falling down into Termina had hints of lower world vs higher world mythology to it as well. Just as Skyward Sword references the story of the buddha in paradise and the spider's thread down to hell in the cistern where a rope leads all the way down to a lower, darker world with monsters.
    Skull Kid is also said to have "returned to the heavens" by Granny when she's telling the story about how the four giants expelled him. If Termina is a lower world, then Hyrule, as the world above, seems to be its "heavens."

    • @HighPriestFuneral
      @HighPriestFuneral 10 місяців тому +1

      I had the same thought as well, Lockstin and Gnoggin did a fantastic video some years ago about the connections between Termina and Lorule from A Link Between Worlds, it's a fascinating look, to be sure.

  • @Goose683
    @Goose683 10 місяців тому +53

    Really fascinating to hear this kinda interpretation. Usually you hear about how Termina is the 5 stages of grief.

    • @Galamoth06
      @Galamoth06 10 місяців тому +2

      But that's just a theory...!

    • @IgorLollatoTrevs
      @IgorLollatoTrevs 10 місяців тому +2

      .... A GAME THEORY!!!!! XDDD

    • @Medicalguy
      @Medicalguy 10 місяців тому

      Easier when we are western. These folks grew up saturated in this culture and it seem to have subconsciously injected it into their work.

    • @chrislipimp
      @chrislipimp 10 місяців тому

      It’s all connected friend

    • @RhumpleOriginal
      @RhumpleOriginal 10 місяців тому +1

      Maybe, taking a shot in the dark here, maybe link needed to experience the 5 stages first hand and provide peace to get to his own enlightenment. (Making this up as I go) link is never the person in any game to say he can't do anything or let tragedy get in his way to be a hero. Termina would be the only way for him to actually experience those stages.

  • @baddragonite
    @baddragonite 10 місяців тому +149

    To be honest even though the devs didn't fully envision a timeline at the beginning I think it's one of the most "Tolkien esque" stories out there, meaning in the sense that it's meant to feel like a magical but existing world with cultures and languages and so on and evoke similar feelings to a religious experience in the same way Tolkien's work does
    The Hyrule historian trilogy of books are also just great display pieces for a shelf

    • @benfrancois7856
      @benfrancois7856 10 місяців тому +1

      je suis d'accord, c'est sûr, j'aime beaucoup le nouveau jeu vidéo Zelda même si je n'y ai pas encore joué. Je sais que j'aimerais bien y jouer. Je n'ai joué qu'à quelques jeux Zelda Nintendo mais j'aime la plupart d'entre eux.

    • @burningbronze7555
      @burningbronze7555 10 місяців тому

      Trilogy of books?

    • @jaidens.g.1920
      @jaidens.g.1920 10 місяців тому +6

      @@burningbronze7555 Hyrule Historia, Arta & Artifacts, and the Zelda Encyclopedia. Conveniently, the main colors of the books are green, red, and blue, respectively

    • @ZeranZeran
      @ZeranZeran 10 місяців тому +3

      I'm sorry, I mean this with 0 hatred or negativity. Do people really have a religious experience from Tolkien's writing?
      I've felt that way with a few video games, as silly as that may sound. This makes me want to read my first Tolkien book. It sounds like a wonderful feeling to discover through reading.

    • @ZeranZeran
      @ZeranZeran 10 місяців тому +4

      @@jaidens.g.1920 I can't believe I never noticed that! Just like Din, Nayru, and Farore. How cool.

  • @nexneedsanewvessel7571
    @nexneedsanewvessel7571 9 місяців тому +7

    i also like the thought of link giving up all his masks in exchange for the fierce deity mask as a pretty direct metaphor for parting with earthly attachments to reach enlightenment. i'm sure this was stated elsewhere, i'm just excited haha. super cool video!

  • @OfficialWordParty
    @OfficialWordParty 10 місяців тому +8

    I'm 31 and still love these old zelda games. I played them as a child. My parents bought majoras mask and we kids couldn't play it until they beat it. This game will always bring me back to those days. It's so cool to hear you explaine a childhood favorite with such depth.

  • @ChateauLonLon
    @ChateauLonLon 10 місяців тому +3

    For your first shot at a Zelda video, this is pretty great :)
    There's actually a line from one of the Business Scrubs that seems to refer to the Fierce Deity and its frightening demon-repellant visage.
    "Rumor has it, demons aren't afraid
    unless they see something that
    looks the same as themselves."

    • @an3582
      @an3582 9 днів тому +1

      Doomguy!

  • @TheChowderr
    @TheChowderr 10 місяців тому +42

    If you're gonna continue with zelda, Twilight princess is a gem for analysis, such a great story

  • @UlfAhlborg
    @UlfAhlborg 10 місяців тому +4

    Yeah that’s definitely the bodhi tree. It’s said when Siddartha Gautama attained enlightenment the whole world erupted with blossoming lotuses. If you check at 17:30 that tree definitely has what look like a few white lotus flower blossoms sprouting from it. Cool!

  • @harrymasononvacation
    @harrymasononvacation 10 місяців тому +31

    Now THIS is some synchronicity! I literally just got the itch a day ago to play Majora's Mask and Link's Awakening, and here you are Max! Glad you're going through these, and PLEASE check out Link's Awakening.

  • @thatkodochagirl
    @thatkodochagirl 10 місяців тому +74

    Wow!!!!! I absolutely love this analysis and the connections here. This could be one of the underlying reasons why this game speaks to so many people...the concept of letting go of our attachments and achieving enlightenment is something deeply rooted in many ancient religious teachings. This desire exists within all of us, I believe. Amazing work!!!! ❤

    • @Sronmars_Den
      @Sronmars_Den 10 місяців тому +2

      It does speak to a lot of people. 🙃

  • @tristanneal9552
    @tristanneal9552 10 місяців тому +11

    Wow, this video was fantastic! The best ive seen on MM. As far as Zelda goes, Skyward Sword is known for some notable religous influence; Dragon dieties, Japanese Magatama, and an entire Buddhist temple come to mind.

  • @appleihate5678
    @appleihate5678 10 місяців тому +12

    When you spoke of the 5 elements of Buddhism (Fire, Wind, Water, Earth, and Void) it reminded me that those are the exact elements represented in the game Legend of Dragoon. I think your analysis of that game would be intriguing.

  • @d8dknee8rjdje8
    @d8dknee8rjdje8 10 місяців тому +3

    The fact that videos still come out trying to analyze this game 23 years after its release... Quite a game.

  • @tntradernox3654
    @tntradernox3654 10 місяців тому +3

    I can’t recall if I actually wrote it in the comments when you did the survey, but I remember thinking that you were brave (or foolish) to tackle a LoZ game. When it comes to contradicting someone’s personal head-canon, the LoZ community can be one of the most toxic.
    But this was a very satisfying analysis and I feel like it gave a concrete meaning behind the symbolism of the fierce deity in particular. And even if someone doesn’t agree, this analysis is a great jumping off point to build on. Great job as always!

  • @KaliYuga2049
    @KaliYuga2049 10 місяців тому +5

    You didn't mention the fact that majora's final form gets a Third Eye

  • @Jonathan-Anderson
    @Jonathan-Anderson 10 місяців тому +8

    Majora's Mask is my favorite game of all time. And i must say, it brings me great pleasure to see a wholesome interpretation that I've never heard of before. What an amazing video.

  • @nat_sukashii
    @nat_sukashii 10 місяців тому +10

    I am happy to see old games videos from Max! As I am currently playing Majora's Masks I'll keep this video for later but I will still do my part for the algorithm~ 💛

  • @Yan_Alkovic
    @Yan_Alkovic 10 місяців тому +5

    This is my second-favourite Zelda Game, so I'm very happy to have seen what you had to say about and I was pleasantly surprised that it was Buddhism of all things that permeated the theming in this one!
    Twilight princess would be my pick for the next Zelda game TBH.

  • @isaacmcdonald5780
    @isaacmcdonald5780 10 місяців тому +2

    I’d like to add, the center Myo-o, Fudo Myo-o is the patron saint of swordsmen in Japanese Buddhism. His Sanskrit name is Akalanantha or the immovable one, and he upholds Buddhist law. He is also an incarnation of the Hindu god Shiva.
    This is such a cool video, I always appreciated the themes of good deeds and ascension in this game- after getting into eastern mysticism later in life it brings me joy to see my favorite game as a kid being a gateway to this path. Great video, definitely subscribing!

  • @Amy_Dunn
    @Amy_Dunn 9 місяців тому +6

    I don't think Termina completely disappeared at the end, considering that the end credits show a town celebrating and link leaving. Considering that there is a Zelda title that all takes place in a dream, that came out before Majora's Mask, which made it clear it was in a dream, and that the world would end as soon as Link woke up. Unless they made it obvious that Termina was a dream world, it would be more likely that it's a real place that Link moves on from, and find his way home.

  • @luca4464
    @luca4464 10 місяців тому +7

    FINALLY you covered an analysis on my all time favorite series and for that I must thank you!!

  • @flyingtypetrainer4072
    @flyingtypetrainer4072 10 місяців тому +4

    Awesome analysis and great video! So thrilled to hear you're playing Zelda. I love your videos, so this video in my feed was such a treat to see. Appreciate your work,- keep it up!

  • @BioAlpha5
    @BioAlpha5 10 місяців тому +2

    Ya know this has huge Alchemy Shinto and Godai connections especially in Tears of the Kingdom. I made a Alchemy Part 1 video before tears came out and Working on a Sequel video about it even and this video popped up, making me realize most what i said in my video or my current research, i feel like im onto something! Thank you!
    Great watch and i love your content, it inspires me to do better on my own editing and research!

  • @Inquiring_Together
    @Inquiring_Together 10 місяців тому +1

    Great work. I’m glad you got to enjoy the series.

  • @mcturkey7932
    @mcturkey7932 10 місяців тому +3

    the fact that you've only really just started to get into the series and already you sound like an expert and have something to add to the lore and discussion is a big achievement, keep up the good work!

  • @gozololuzbacio2394
    @gozololuzbacio2394 10 місяців тому +3

    Awesome,
    As for which zelda game to tackle next, i’d love to see stuff on wind waker and twilight princess too!

  • @stoi5946
    @stoi5946 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome analysis, keep it up Max!

  • @arjouuh7129
    @arjouuh7129 10 місяців тому +1

    This is really nice timing, I've been looking for Majora's content recently and I find this video that was just uploaded 😁

  • @Uberwenis
    @Uberwenis 10 місяців тому +4

    I gotta say, as a guy who loves the art of storytelling, I love your channel for always reminding me what classics I'm still missing. I just started Lost last week btw. There's just too damn many things and never enough time.

  • @frenchfrey65
    @frenchfrey65 5 місяців тому +1

    Between this and how Majora's Mask is a game about solving trauma, I have a newfound appreciation for the creators of this game because so much thought was put into it. I've never played MM as I could never get around the 3 day cycle and the game for me is WAY too cryptic compared to OoT, but I respect the fans for it as well as other aspects of the game (GREAT OST!).
    As for "solving trauma" another youtuber made a video about that and she makes fantastic points on how the game is about Link healing from losing Navi, as well how Link was traumatized from the whole OoT ordeal, being forced to grow up 7 years, the theft of his childhood by having to fight as a kid, and all the evil he faced. Majora's Mask is a game that was meant to help Link heal, he no longer was a "Hero" he became a "Healer". Makes sense why a powerful song like the Song of Healing is given to you so early.
    What really stood out to me though about this game was how Skull Kid and Link were 2 sides of the same coin. Link was finding good ways to deal with trauma, and thus helping people which was helping Link himself. Skull Kid (though under the influence of Majora), dealt with trauma negatively by causing pain on everyone, which only made Skull Kid feel lonelier than ever because he was driving everyone away.
    This youtuber made such a great point about the fact, and tbh I can't recall a time either, on not just how dark Majora was as a villain, but how sick of a villain it was, no other game, let alone in the Zelda franchise, had a villain like that. Most villains just want to conquer the world, or are comically evil, a cliche type of evil in some way shape or form. Majora on the other hand, was sadistic. It's no wonder how most Zelda fans I talk to label Majora as the most evil villain of the franchise. It doesn't want to conquer the world, it just wants to destroy everything/everyone/and cause pain.

  • @lloxu
    @lloxu 10 місяців тому +3

    Such an excellent video. Genuinely original ideas brought forth in an interesting way. I love that ending with the Fierce Deity's sword. For what game to do next, I think Link's Awakening may be a good fit. I've always been a big fan of that one and I think it would be a good fit for your style

  • @TheMikepatota
    @TheMikepatota 10 місяців тому

    Love this video and I’m extremely excited to do a deep dive into all previous work.

  • @deangajraj
    @deangajraj 10 місяців тому +7

    With a focus on the spiritual quest within Majora's Mask, this game goes beyond what a typical game might offer. Exploring themes rooted in Eastern philosophies, the introduction of the Fierce Deity Mask - a blend of Hindu and Buddhist concepts - reflects the idea of achieving 'the ultimate realization.' By wearing this metaphorical mask, Link is mirroring one's own journey towards Enlightenment. While masks serve as mere accessories in many games, Majora's Mask raises the question, 'What if one mask could give you everything?' The answer to this question being that you're left with only your truest self. #Zelda #MajorasMask #Philosophy

  • @wizcatcheslightning
    @wizcatcheslightning 10 місяців тому +2

    Excellent watch! I think you can make more than a few hermetic connections to Skyward Sword once you play through all of that.

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah! Apparently there are some Buddhist references there too, which Gaming University (the UA-camr who helped review my script) pointed out to me. Might be doing a video on the triforce.

    • @wizcatcheslightning
      @wizcatcheslightning 10 місяців тому

      @@maxderrat Gaming University is a good dude. Excited to see what you two will do when Alan Wake 2 comes out. But yeah, there’s definitely some philosopher stone/emerald tablet vibes coming from Skyward Sword.

  • @faustus333
    @faustus333 10 місяців тому +2

    I've barely gotten into Zelda as well. Played almost all the way through Ocarina back in the day but that's it. I'm def checking out MM after watching this!
    A couple minor but fun tidbits: the color scheme thing is a thing across cultures and beliefs. The specific connotations they rep may change, but it's almost always those colors representing elements, directions, etc. The fourfold thing which the fifth encompasses.
    The symbols on "wrathful diety" Link's chest: The upward triangle can mean many things, but one of which is elemental fire, which is sometimes seen as a stand-in for spirit (the white) or at least the element 'closest' to spirit. And the crecsent moon, besides everything you mentioned can be a symbol for the buddha itself which has escaped Samsara. On many visual depictions of Samsara like the ones you showed here, you can find the Buddha standing next to the crescent moon, outside of the cycle, pointing the way to enlightenment.
    Great vid, as always!

  • @SGBD8933
    @SGBD8933 10 місяців тому +1

    Very synchronistic I needed to hear this today from 8:33 Onwards.. I had already begun the video last week but, didn't watch it all and forgot about it.. From here on is where it resonated with me 10:02 The use of Masks and attaining your higher true self. Bravo sir! 👏

  • @metalcorpseman5433
    @metalcorpseman5433 7 місяців тому +2

    I never equated the Fierce Deity sword with a lemniscate. That was a new outlook for me. I always associated it with the double helical shape of DNA.

  • @MikhailDaken
    @MikhailDaken 10 місяців тому +2

    Really appreciate the conclusion. I grew up between London and Sri Lanka, the latter of which has Buddhism as it's predominant religion. I played Majora's Mask while on vacation in Sri Lanka, during the Vesak Full Moon. It was such an esoteric piece of media representation that extended into such a unique real world celebration. Combined with the themes of the game, I look back on it with a fond, bittersweet magical playthrough experience.

  • @IgorLollatoTrevs
    @IgorLollatoTrevs 10 місяців тому +3

    Majoras mask is one of my favorite top games ever alongside with Legend of Mana and Castlevania SoTN.
    Soooo happy to see that you made a video about it ^^ Cheers!
    PS: You just blew my mind!

  • @davidfernandez9
    @davidfernandez9 10 місяців тому

    Love your videos!!

  • @thetalantonx
    @thetalantonx 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for another great video. It's a joy and honor to be able to support you.

  • @opsedopsers9874
    @opsedopsers9874 10 місяців тому

    Been waiting for this vid, nice

  • @chrislipimp
    @chrislipimp 10 місяців тому

    Great analysis I appreciate these insights

  • @CircleOfTheSeptagram
    @CircleOfTheSeptagram 10 місяців тому +1

    The Lokapala are also depicted in LaMulana as the wise men. I didn't know from what that term originated.
    Thanks for the vid!

  • @terror52
    @terror52 10 місяців тому +1

    Very happy you decided to tackle zelda. I hope you enjoyed them. I think twighlight princess would be the best one to tackle next.

  • @gamearcane
    @gamearcane 10 місяців тому +4

    Great video as always! The past few years have had a great boom of esoteric analysis of games and Zelda does consistently end up towards the top of the list. Skyward Sword also has several connections to Buddhism and the more I think about it the more I can see it in others of the series too. I don't think there is much to laugh at about the presence of the 4 classical elements, other than how powerful they can be! Going from OoT to MM is kind of like a turning point in the series from 3 to 4 and it sort of vibrates in this area often. Water and Fire are so strongly opposed they commonly stay separate, but there is some limitlessness of the conjunction or distinction between heaven and earth where their oscillation often makes them appear as one.

  • @dingus_maximus
    @dingus_maximus 10 місяців тому +2

    Excellent video as always! I know the whole series has frequently, and sometimes overtly, borrowed from Buddhism, but it’s still very interesting to hear specific connections. And of course you managed to bring new info to light. As for what game should come next, I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them, but Skyward Sword seems like a good fit for your style of videos.

  • @theother5594
    @theother5594 10 місяців тому

    Really cool video ❤
    An interesting take to be sure.

  • @Dagglestone
    @Dagglestone 10 місяців тому

    Great video. I love stuff like this

  • @neryxeldra5093
    @neryxeldra5093 10 місяців тому +1

    When I see your videos pop up I always like before watching because all your work has been great.

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  10 місяців тому +2

      YESSS! Thank you!

  • @highbrednxtus
    @highbrednxtus 10 місяців тому +2

    Damn I can't imagine playing MM as an adult for the first time, welcome to the club! Sounds super cool since you probably caught so much even on first playthrough

  • @thelastwish558
    @thelastwish558 10 місяців тому

    You have such a soothing voice. It helps me to calm down for bed.

  • @SK3III3
    @SK3III3 10 місяців тому +2

    Never disappoints 🙏🏻

  • @Hank19999
    @Hank19999 10 місяців тому +3

    I hope you cover more Zelda games in the future 💜

  • @harrymckenzie3725
    @harrymckenzie3725 2 місяці тому

    Wow! Very beautifully done

  • @stevenprado4515
    @stevenprado4515 10 місяців тому

    Oh that was cool. As a die hard Zelda fan I tend to watch random videos on Zelda and came across yours today. This was very enlightening 😂. Seriously though good job. I loved the video.

  • @Tricolossus
    @Tricolossus 10 місяців тому +1

    Excelent analysis, it was brilliant

  • @cygnusx4067
    @cygnusx4067 7 місяців тому

    This is the kind of analysis I’m talking about instant sub watching all of your videos

  • @kimpey
    @kimpey 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video again! always fun to see you dive into a new games series. I recomend Links Awakening or wind waker. Both are not only good fun, but offer lots of intresting imagery and journeys.

  • @HighPriestFuneral
    @HighPriestFuneral 10 місяців тому +2

    This is an intriguing analysis, to be sure. I think you also see those four colors represented for the Giants themselves, tying the Fierce Diety to this White center is also highly fitting thematically for reasons you explained excellently. While I personally believe that Termina is its own world (there is no reason this journey towards enlightenment erases the people and places of Termina) for a fair number of reasons (historically based, high emotional states of characters, the Deku Butler's son), this theory is still highly applicable. Protective guardians actually protecting something is a lot more appealing to me than protective guardians existing in a frayed mindscape.

  • @RwnEsper
    @RwnEsper 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video Max!
    Since the "It Was All A Dream" trope was brought up in the video, I IMPLORE you to play Link's Awakening!
    I would also very much like to see you cover more SMT material; I'd be particularly interested in your takes on the 3DS games, especially Devil Survivor 1&2.

  • @courtjester7778
    @courtjester7778 10 місяців тому

    This was really great!

  • @eawproductions
    @eawproductions 10 місяців тому +1

    Good job on the thumbnail, higher quality than all of mine.

  • @Psychokyuubi666
    @Psychokyuubi666 2 місяці тому

    I absolutely adore your Analysis into hidden meanings in many video games & series.

  • @thelastwish558
    @thelastwish558 10 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for creating such an amazing video. I've watched a few Zelda theory video but Iven't seen one comparing Zelda series with Buddhism before.

  • @user-pd1tj1zo6u
    @user-pd1tj1zo6u 10 місяців тому

    You are awesome! Love each your video

  • @spadeofpain24
    @spadeofpain24 10 місяців тому +1

    The moon also resemble the giants minus the limbs and facial hair. Making the Moon a "5th giant" of sorts, while Link becomes a huge version of himself as the Fierce Deity to imply being a "6th Giant".

  • @JoyasInmaculadas
    @JoyasInmaculadas 10 місяців тому +1

    I have to be honest, I was eating sardines on a toast while watching this and I could not follow. But your editing is on point and awesome, I agree with everything even if didn't actually understand. Your work is awesome!

  • @natsuzkan
    @natsuzkan 10 місяців тому +1

    Looking at the mapping between directions and bosses, we've got Odolwa in the south with the mask on the red (not yellow nor blue) mandala; Goht in the north with the mask on the green (correct for one system, would be red in the nyori image) mandala; Gyorg in the west with the mask on the blue (not red nor yellow) mandala; Twinmold in the east with the mask on the yellow (not blue nor green) mandala.
    I don't think I can come up with a perfectly logical link between each region and the associated element. The Southern Swamp is initially poisoned, which I don't think really fits any element, but lots of puzzles involve flight (air), and the Deku King wants to burn (fire) the monkey, and sure, this region does kind of have more fire and torches than other regions. Snowhead can temporarily be thawed with fire and ultimately becomes lush and green, with Snowhead Temple itself being blocked by wind (air) from the sleeping Goron, and I think I've seen elemental systems where greenery is mostly associated with air. The most natural element for the Great Bay is water, and I can't really make a case for anything else. Ikana Canyon is very dry and part of healing it involves water, but my instinct would be to relate that region to earth, especially with the burrowing worm boss. With Great Bay and Ikana Canyon being correct, and since I could really go either way between fire and air for both the Southern Swamp and Snowhead, I can come up with something consistent albeit kind of a stretch.
    None of this comment is intended as a critique or disagreement. I just love this game and speculating about it.

  • @mookkss1381
    @mookkss1381 10 місяців тому +1

    Amazing video! Glad I found your channel. I would absolutely LOVE it if you did a similar video on Ocarina of Time

  • @jazzyj7834
    @jazzyj7834 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm so ecstatic that you are doing a Majora's Mask video.

  • @ZeranZeran
    @ZeranZeran 10 місяців тому

    Right when you brought up "Space" being one of the elements I said "OH MY GOD THE MOON"
    This is such a cool video Max. Thank you, sincerely. Some of my favorite content anywhere.

  • @88Padilla
    @88Padilla 9 місяців тому

    This was a very interesting analysis. Thank you.

  • @muddywolfpaws6896
    @muddywolfpaws6896 10 місяців тому +2

    I love how even as a kid I felt like I somehow picked up on the fact that this game represented something sacred. And now the older I get and the more we analyze it all feels so meaningful. Such a cool & amazing feeling, and grateful to share it with you all

  • @Frogman1212
    @Frogman1212 10 місяців тому +8

    Where are my fellow 9 guys who have never played GTA?

  • @felipedonadon7039
    @felipedonadon7039 9 місяців тому +2

    I just wanted to make a quick note: when you talk about the Fierce Deity looking like Link and equate some similarity with this to Atman-Brahman and later with this to a Buddha's Dharmakaya, I see one particular "inconsistency", which lies in the fact that the principal means that the Buddha taught to reach supreme enlightenment was "Anatman" or "no-self", as opposed to "atman" in Brahmanism. Therefore, when you compared both of them together as similar, I pondered if, deep down, such comparison between Buddhism and Hinduism could be drawn so closely, because of these fundamentally distinct (and opposed) concepts as their core. Overall, your videos are always spectacular and thank you for making me ever more interested to be looking into video game culture and our religious experiences. Peace.

  • @777Rowen
    @777Rowen 10 місяців тому

    I love MM, and had no idea it had this connection! This is so cool!

  • @j.m.3600
    @j.m.3600 8 місяців тому

    Awesome video, I watched it 3 times now

  • @robinfox4440
    @robinfox4440 10 місяців тому +1

    Dang I was about to hit the Subscribe button because of your knowledge of how these games and anime productions reference occult and lesser known religions - I love that stuff! Turns out I already subscribed to you! I checked the PFP and I remember some of your autism videos. You're amazing!

  • @matt2027
    @matt2027 10 місяців тому +1

    I had the thought some time ago that instead of Link putting on the Fierce Deity mask, the Fierce Deity should have taken off his Link mask.

  • @thedim2216
    @thedim2216 10 місяців тому

    Really good video, I remember Fudo-Myoo being the final boss of Oboro Muramasa, a very good game from Vanillaware

  • @chriswiese1348
    @chriswiese1348 10 місяців тому

    great video!

  • @SaltedMallows
    @SaltedMallows 10 місяців тому +2

    Id like to see you cover the Hero's Shade from Twilight Princess

  • @seanchan4478
    @seanchan4478 10 місяців тому +1

    I saw dragon's dogma on the bottom, Matt knows of its existence confirmed!

  • @Khan-ig5rx
    @Khan-ig5rx 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video, thank you. Majora's Mask came out when I was 9 and helped shape my personality, it will always be one of my absolute favorite games. I would love to see a video on Link's Awakening, it has a really interesting story that ties into dream myths, it's another one of my favorites.

    • @Galamoth06
      @Galamoth06 10 місяців тому +1

      Don't spoil it for him. A huge part of what makes Link's Awakening special is learning the truth organically as you play...

    • @Khan-ig5rx
      @Khan-ig5rx 10 місяців тому

      @@Galamoth06 That's a good point, I guess I've played that game so much I just took the information for granted. I will edit my post.

    • @Galamoth06
      @Galamoth06 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Khan-ig5rx I didn't mean to sound so bossy, you didn't have to change it on my account. It is a very old spoiler that I agree most long-time Zelda fans probably take for granted, but there's still a chance Max has avoided it this long.
      It's kind of amazing these games were able to convey so much atmosphere and set a tone on such limited hardware.

    • @Khan-ig5rx
      @Khan-ig5rx 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Galamoth06 Haha you're fine, I wasn't offended, you brought up a good point.
      And agreed, the small collection of vintage games I hold onto includes nearly every Zelda they made for the Gameboy and GBA. Link's Awakening always stuck with me, the connections to Eastern and Native American mythology are pretty interesting.

    • @Galamoth06
      @Galamoth06 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Khan-ig5rx The Oracle games are fantastic too. When I replay them I have no problem playing them back to back, then back to back again in reverse order. They're so good that four consecutive playthroughs aren't even tedious (for me, anyway).

  • @EndlessCycleOfPride
    @EndlessCycleOfPride 10 місяців тому +1

    I literally wanted to search up similarities between Zelda en Buddhism today and you posting this is godsend

  • @zoellopez5930
    @zoellopez5930 10 місяців тому +1

    Loved the video! I suggest you tackle Link's Awakening. Or, if you want to be further ambitious, a full psychological introspection into the Hero of Time.

  • @tomdekler9280
    @tomdekler9280 10 місяців тому +1

    Very pleased to see my face, or in this case the face of DJ Crazy Times, on UA-cam again.

  • @nicholasharlan6504
    @nicholasharlan6504 10 місяців тому

    My oh my what a delightful channel to discover and what an enlightening showcase of real world influence. Thank you for this.

  • @catbushi1756
    @catbushi1756 10 місяців тому

    Gold, can't wait for more Zelda! You should become a lore channel! (im new so I dunno what be going on here)

  • @zacharyessey5904
    @zacharyessey5904 10 місяців тому

    Great video! I have never finished a Zelda game, but I did enjoy what I did play. I would love to see you cover Gensou Suikodens I and II.

  • @hinkhall5291
    @hinkhall5291 10 місяців тому +1

    Gotta play this game again.

  • @voxsouls
    @voxsouls 10 місяців тому

    I also very recently played through Majora's Mask, about a month ago. Between the four Zelda games that I had played all the way through (starting in April), I definitely feel that Majora's Mask was the most memorable and rich when it came to story. So many interpretations.

  • @danielg3918
    @danielg3918 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video! My choice for the next Zelda game would be Link's Awakening. That one never gets enough love

  • @WarriorVirtue
    @WarriorVirtue 10 місяців тому +2

    Originally, the game was meant to have a seven day cycle but they ended up shortening it because they only had a year to make the game. (Seriously, when you look at how rushed this game was, its status as one of the greatest games in the franchise is nothing short of a miracle.)