I love the trope when the comedy relief does something evil because when you laugh with a character you let your guard down. D’hofryn is a great mix of menace and comedy
Right, but those people didn't deserve that vengeance. The question is really for both parties, the lady went way too far, and Anya shouldn't have granted her wish. Actually, I'm not sure if Anya can choose to refuse it?
@@jaypeakay5864 The question of how much volition Anya has is a good one. She seems to know her job is very much "ironically give you what you asked in a way you won't really like", but I don't know if that's something she has to choose, or is choosing reluctantly as a newly-re-demoned employee of D'Hoffryn.
@jaypeakay5864 when the girl said " I wish you all could feel what it's like to have your hearts ripped out" she wasn't being literal so she didn't go to far because she didn't know, also vengeance demons go wherever they feel they are needed so she doesn't have to be invited in order to be there. They all laughed so when she made her wish (by accident) it effects them all, even if it was directed at one person, depending on the wish other people can be effected.
Anya is a demon and she can shape the wishes however she likes (remember halfrek saying a chick wished her ex was a frog and anya made him french?). She is - as a demon - receiving complaints about her work (again we’ve seen halfrek who claims to be the only demon friend she has left telling her) so she goes for the worst way to grant the wish - literally ripping their hearts out. It’s not very much about deserving it for vengeance demon anya as in fact she says at the beginning of the episode in the second flashback “they all deserve it”. But now you see the truth is she doesn’t like this anymore so much so that she’s willing to be killed, from buffy first (she even tells xander to stop trying to save her) and from d’hoffryn later. You can see that she kinda thinks she deserves it cause she has indeed changed and I think that’s the whole point of the episode and it’s quite beautiful for me
The writer of the episode wanted a flashback during OMWF to emphasize that this really was a moment in time, it presumably took place before they realized what was going on. Whedon initially didn't want to write a whole new song, but as one of the comments mentioned he eventually wrote it in one night.
I don't see where anyone answered your question about what word Spike used that made Buffy's subsequent behavior in response to the history of the attempted rape seem frivolous, but if you were curious I think the word was "skittish".
I think we just knew at some stage that Anya would return to her original ways, and revert the being a Vengeance Demon. This of course has repercussions, and the massacre of the male students at the start is of course the consequences. The flashback with Anya and Olaf is light relief, but then the transition to blood being washed from hands at the sink. Spike of course is still being tormented since he got his soul back, and when Willow meets Anya on campus she notices the blood on her hand. When Willow sees the girl in the Frat House and the spider creeps up wall, we almost see a return to Dark Willow when she says to her 'shut your whimpering mouth'. Another flashback again with D'Hoffryn turning Anya in the past. Halfrek is back and of course is the worse person Anya could speak to, we remember her too from playing Cecily who cruelly rejected Spike when he was William the human. Great scene with Willow and Anya, and Anya reminds Willow of what she done. When Buffy is told of what happened she knows what she has to do and kill Anya. I think the flashback to 1917 with Anya and Halfrek being in the middle of The Russian Revolution was stretching it a bit, when Halfrek says 'there's a revolution going on outside that you are somewhat responsible for'. Painful conversation with Buffy and Xander when he says to her, if it's a Demon that's boning you, it's all a grey area. She reminds him she did kill Angel, this was a terrific scene with great acting. When Buffy puts the sword through Anya we switch back the fairytale Musical type of domestic bliss, but this is short lived. Willow gets D'Hoffryn to appear, and when Anya says she wants to revert back to human, D'Hoffryn says OK but there is a price to pay. As Spike said in S5, 'there's always got to be blood', a price has to be paid. Halfrek being Anya's best friend is killed in front of her, D'Hoffryn teaching Anya a lesson here. 'Never go for the kill, when you can go for the pain' similar to Angel in S2 Passion where he is outside the window looking in at the pain they are all experiencing, rather than just kill them all. All in all I thought a superb S7 episode.
I always felt like there's a heavy implication that the girl who wished for vengeance was victimized sexually by the fraternity boys, but they either got threatened with censorship or they themselves decided against bringing such triggering real-world trauma to a supernatural daytime television show. That would definitely make the fraternity's grisly end a bit more balanced. At least that's how I always interpreted it. 🤷♂️
I think that scene with the song was a "what happens in the last moments before you die", making us think Anya is having a happy flashback as she dies, ie a bit of her life flashes before her eyes - and then she recovers instead of dying. Your reaction was fine, stop putting yourself down and gaslighting yourself!
@@ernesthakey3396 That may very well be what I was missing with that scene! I totally missed that. Thanks. 👍 TBF, my outros are based on the full reaction, and this one was truly awful. I get days where I'm just not plugged in mentally (for whatever reason) and this was definitely one of those days. The power of editing saved me again! 😂
Reveal it! I was also confused by What Is In The Basement and don't think I ever understood. So if you talk about what you think, it might clear things up for me. Season 7 was a puzzle for me when I watched it decades ago and I don't remember much, so it's fun to watch with you - like we BOTH don't know what is going on, lol.
Hello and great reaction for this very special episode! Regarding the beginning of your video, don't worry and don't blame yourself, I only know of one UA-cam reciter who understood it during the first episode (at its end) of season 7 what (or who!) was at work, so don't be too hard on yourself. As for any spoilers to be revealed, I think that all of the people who are following you on this Buffyverse journey must have already seen the series, so no regrets for saying your thoughts clearly. What's more, if this poses a problem of conscience, you can report a Spoiler On moment in your reaction then an Off and timestamp these moments on your video ;) In any case, enjoy these last episodes of Buffy ;)
@@AboyeurOfSirius Haha. Thanks! 🙂 It's tough to know how other people are seeing the show when you're a reactor. You kind of always feel like you're missing stuff, or at least I do. 🤦 FWIW, I didn't mean spoiling the show for those watching. I was referring to whether or not it was even a spoiler, or if it was so obvious that everyone already knew, and perhaps I should've instantly known what it was at the end of that first episode. I was expecting everyone to tell me they already knew, and that it would be fine to talk openly about it, without disappointing people that the reveal wouldn't be a surprise to me (assuming I was right). I probably didn't explain it very well in the video. Haha.
Anya goes balls to the wall much like a person who comes out of rehab does. She doesn't know who she is and her friend keeps telling her that the old her was who she is so she throws herself full force into what she used to know
I'm not sure why you're worried about spoiling US. We already know :) The truth is that YOU were spoiled by those comments/hints. *Only because you asked for it,* I'll confirm that what you are thinking of from season 3 *are* the spirits or whatever term you used, so yeah, you're on track there. But you were supposed to still be confused about it at this point in the show. We all were the first time we saw it. Because that reveal isn't until later in the season. It's kind of a bummer that people can't keep hints to themselves.
I'm with you in that I also usually don't like hints, and definitely not spoilers, but honestly, I feel like I needed to look back at the episode just to remember what those spirits were. I would've been just as confused when it was revealed because I'd completely forgotten about that whole thing. 🤦♂
Many excellent comments . My additions are semi repetitive. I have one observation/ question that has bothered me since my first rewatch. In Season 5, think Episode 12, Buffy has a disagreement with her history teacher about Rasputin and the Russian Revolution. The teacher makes fun of Buffy in the class and belittles her about her previous comments about odd sleeping habits of the elites and aristocracy before and during the revolution. It’s implied that Buffy was suggesting that there was a supernatural element to the revolution. Buffy carries this thought on later when she is fighting a vampire before Spike steps in. In this episode a point is made that Anya and Helfrich kill leaders in 1905 Russia and that they are in a place where they can do harm for awhile. Many historians view the start of the revolution in Russia starting in 1905 and not fully finishing until 1917. So my question is…. Does this validate what Buffy was saying about Rasputin and the basis of The Russian Revolution? Nothing is random in Buffy and why 1905 Russia in this episode? What the argument with the professor about Rasputin? Just wondering if anyone had insights, think it has merit, or has no meaning?
1:22 I think I know what you’re talking about, and yes you’re right, and you’d probably be the only reactor I’ve ever watched who figured it out that early. Lol
I believe The Lexi Crowd actually called it correctly at the end of 7x1 ... but she's the only one I've seen actually get it before the show spells it out, without hints.
Seems like a lot of reaction viewers are around this season and episode recently. This episode is considered by the crew to be a love letter to Anya. Anya changed the world for the worse the first time viewers saw her and she has bragged of the horrible things she's done over the years without apology. The point of this episode is that she finally gets it and is growing up and realizing how wrong it all was. She is showing true guilt, remorse, and regret for the first time. It doesn't change her past, but it sets her on a new future. Xander's argument in defense of Anya puts him square in the position he forced Buffy in during both Angel and Angelus' run on the show (S1-S3). He even had the nerve to try and say to Buffy she doesn't know how he feels. Now that he's in Buffy's position concerning his relationship with Anya, Buffy has to tell him off for not realizing it. He can argue with Buffy all he wants, but she does have a responsibility slayer-wise (and she had an arc where she learned the lesson she is now teaching Xander, from not being able to kill Angelus to only not beheadng him because his soul was restored). The Angelus arc showed her learning in other words. Five years later Xander is not only still dismissive of, but hasn't learned from until an argument where he's, once again, being dismissive of those moments Buffy was in and he is now in. One of Xander's best lines ever is, "There has to be another way." Not because of the line itself but because right after it he finally understands what he should have understood years ago. Many people misunderstand the difference between Buffy repeating Faith's line in S3 about being the law and Buffy saying it in this episode. Buffy means it as the responsibility she has as the slayer. Faith meant it as they can do whatever they want. Buffy's mistake was just after Xander saying there has to be another way was to say to Xander and Willow she would give them time to help Anya only to immediately go try to kill her. But at the same time her situation in S2 is now why Buffy is taking more immediate action, before things get worse, and once again it makes Xander hypocritical, but possiblly realize it. Anya herself doesn't even agree with Xander and feels guilty enough to accept Buffy's punishment. Luckily Willow's to the rescue. At least until D'Hoffryn sacrifices Halfrek. This episode is the moment the "Willow said kick his ass" line is revealed and made said reveal a letdown. Considering all the damage that line did, not even nearly five years should have stopped the argument that should have happened. If Buffy learned this happened five years earlier, her and Xander's friendship would have been broken beyond repair. There needed to be something said against Xander by both Buffy and Willow in their moment of finding out he lied five years ago. Xander is the kind of person who, even when people state the fact that he's right, he still ends up being wrong because he makes himself a hypocrite by never dealing with any of his issues and blaming others for their issues, which can turn out to be the same issues as has, except other people learn from their issues and mistakes; Xander never has. So, as they mature and grow, even when in the wrong, Xander just ends up being in the wrong even if he has a point. This was always going to bite him in the ass one day. Even at the same time he learns a lesson he still ends up a hypocrite at the end when he's telling Anya she shouldn't be alone in this. Thinking that after walking out on their wedding would have proven he's not his father more than walking away from the wedding proved he was by hurting her (and not talking to her about his own issues in advance of the wedding) did. In-universe he doesn't learn from his mistakes, even on the rare occasions he does, and writing-wise he's more one dimensional than all other characters in the show because he's a write in for the creator. If 7x03's _Same Time Same Place_ didn't convince me Willow and Anya finally put their issues aside (it did btw), this episode definitely did. Willow was the reason Buffy didn't need to follow through with her jump to kill attitude after saying Xander and Willow should find a way she wouldn't have to. Buffy still just jumped the gun a bit too soon, as I stated earlier in an earlier paragraph. Love all the flashbacks. Joss wrote the song in one night when the _Hush_ flashback fell through.
Yes, there is a link between an episode in season 3 and this season's "big bad". You didn't say which ep you thought it was, but I suspect you've got the right one. When this first aired way back when, I was definitely confused by this villain/demon/whatever being able to change its shape/body/whatever. It had been years since season 3 had aired, I'd forgotten about that particular episode and I didn't put the two things together until well into the season! Honestly, season 7 is towards the bottom of the list for me, despite some very good episodes and great character moments (like this episode for Anya).
I haven’t been commenting much during season 7. It’s not my favorite season. I will say I must be more clueless than you. I have no idea what connection you made to previous seasons to figure out what’s torturing Spike in the basement. And I’ve watched all the seasons many times. 🤣🤣🤣
@@meggo329 I do love the show! I’ve seen that episode numerous times but I never made the connection. What can I say? I’m just a bit slow on the uptake I suppose.
Haha. Don't worry, I had no idea until I read the episode descriptions. I spotted something and, somehow, I still had a faint memory of what went down. It was only when I watched it again that I fully got it.
I love the trope when the comedy relief does something evil because when you laugh with a character you let your guard down. D’hofryn is a great mix of menace and comedy
"Does that mean they deserve to get their hearts ripped out?"
Anya is a vengeance demon. Not a justice demon.
Right, but those people didn't deserve that vengeance. The question is really for both parties, the lady went way too far, and Anya shouldn't have granted her wish. Actually, I'm not sure if Anya can choose to refuse it?
@@jaypeakay5864 The question of how much volition Anya has is a good one. She seems to know her job is very much "ironically give you what you asked in a way you won't really like", but I don't know if that's something she has to choose, or is choosing reluctantly as a newly-re-demoned employee of D'Hoffryn.
@jaypeakay5864 when the girl said " I wish you all could feel what it's like to have your hearts ripped out" she wasn't being literal so she didn't go to far because she didn't know, also vengeance demons go wherever they feel they are needed so she doesn't have to be invited in order to be there. They all laughed so when she made her wish (by accident) it effects them all, even if it was directed at one person, depending on the wish other people can be effected.
And....they kind of deserved it anyway
Anya is a demon and she can shape the wishes however she likes (remember halfrek saying a chick wished her ex was a frog and anya made him french?). She is - as a demon - receiving complaints about her work (again we’ve seen halfrek who claims to be the only demon friend she has left telling her) so she goes for the worst way to grant the wish - literally ripping their hearts out. It’s not very much about deserving it for vengeance demon anya as in fact she says at the beginning of the episode in the second flashback “they all deserve it”. But now you see the truth is she doesn’t like this anymore so much so that she’s willing to be killed, from buffy first (she even tells xander to stop trying to save her) and from d’hoffryn later. You can see that she kinda thinks she deserves it cause she has indeed changed and I think that’s the whole point of the episode and it’s quite beautiful for me
The writer of the episode wanted a flashback during OMWF to emphasize that this really was a moment in time, it presumably took place before they realized what was going on. Whedon initially didn't want to write a whole new song, but as one of the comments mentioned he eventually wrote it in one night.
I don't see where anyone answered your question about what word Spike used that made Buffy's subsequent behavior in response to the history of the attempted rape seem frivolous, but if you were curious I think the word was "skittish".
I think we just knew at some stage that Anya would return to her original ways, and revert the being a Vengeance Demon. This of course has repercussions, and the massacre of the male students at the start is of course the consequences. The flashback with Anya and Olaf is light relief, but then the transition to blood being washed from hands at the sink. Spike of course is still being tormented since he got his soul back, and when Willow meets Anya on campus she notices the blood on her hand. When Willow sees the girl in the Frat House and the spider creeps up wall, we almost see a return to Dark Willow when she says to her 'shut your whimpering mouth'. Another flashback again with D'Hoffryn turning Anya in the past. Halfrek is back and of course is the worse person Anya could speak to, we remember her too from playing Cecily who cruelly rejected Spike when he was William the human. Great scene with Willow and Anya, and Anya reminds Willow of what she done. When Buffy is told of what happened she knows what she has to do and kill Anya. I think the flashback to 1917 with Anya and Halfrek being in the middle of The Russian Revolution was stretching it a bit, when Halfrek says 'there's a revolution going on outside that you are somewhat responsible for'. Painful conversation with Buffy and Xander when he says to her, if it's a Demon that's boning you, it's all a grey area. She reminds him she did kill Angel, this was a terrific scene with great acting. When Buffy puts the sword through Anya we switch back the fairytale Musical type of domestic bliss, but this is short lived. Willow gets D'Hoffryn to appear, and when Anya says she wants to revert back to human, D'Hoffryn says OK but there is a price to pay. As Spike said in S5, 'there's always got to be blood', a price has to be paid. Halfrek being Anya's best friend is killed in front of her, D'Hoffryn teaching Anya a lesson here. 'Never go for the kill, when you can go for the pain' similar to Angel in S2 Passion where he is outside the window looking in at the pain they are all experiencing, rather than just kill them all. All in all I thought a superb S7 episode.
I always felt like there's a heavy implication that the girl who wished for vengeance was victimized sexually by the fraternity boys, but they either got threatened with censorship or they themselves decided against bringing such triggering real-world trauma to a supernatural daytime television show. That would definitely make the fraternity's grisly end a bit more balanced. At least that's how I always interpreted it. 🤷♂️
Damn, that's dark. If that's true then maybe it wasn't so extreme after all. 🤔
I think that scene with the song was a "what happens in the last moments before you die", making us think Anya is having a happy flashback as she dies, ie a bit of her life flashes before her eyes - and then she recovers instead of dying.
Your reaction was fine, stop putting yourself down and gaslighting yourself!
@@ernesthakey3396 That may very well be what I was missing with that scene! I totally missed that. Thanks. 👍
TBF, my outros are based on the full reaction, and this one was truly awful. I get days where I'm just not plugged in mentally (for whatever reason) and this was definitely one of those days. The power of editing saved me again! 😂
Reveal it! I was also confused by What Is In The Basement and don't think I ever understood. So if you talk about what you think, it might clear things up for me. Season 7 was a puzzle for me when I watched it decades ago and I don't remember much, so it's fun to watch with you - like we BOTH don't know what is going on, lol.
You should probably check out an episode where Angel is haunted by people he'd killed during his time as a vampire. 😊
I’m with you. Maybe I never understood season 7? I thought I got it, but now I’m wondering.
Maybe you should make Amends
I think I spoke about it in one of the upcoming reactions. 🙂
@@meggo329 I think I've got it now. At least, I hope so
Hello and great reaction for this very special episode!
Regarding the beginning of your video, don't worry and don't blame yourself, I only know of one UA-cam reciter who understood it during the first episode (at its end) of season 7 what (or who!) was at work, so don't be too hard on yourself.
As for any spoilers to be revealed, I think that all of the people who are following you on this Buffyverse journey must have already seen the series, so no regrets for saying your thoughts clearly. What's more, if this poses a problem of conscience, you can report a Spoiler On moment in your reaction then an Off and timestamp these moments on your video ;)
In any case, enjoy these last episodes of Buffy ;)
@@AboyeurOfSirius Haha. Thanks! 🙂 It's tough to know how other people are seeing the show when you're a reactor. You kind of always feel like you're missing stuff, or at least I do. 🤦
FWIW, I didn't mean spoiling the show for those watching. I was referring to whether or not it was even a spoiler, or if it was so obvious that everyone already knew, and perhaps I should've instantly known what it was at the end of that first episode. I was expecting everyone to tell me they already knew, and that it would be fine to talk openly about it, without disappointing people that the reveal wouldn't be a surprise to me (assuming I was right). I probably didn't explain it very well in the video. Haha.
Anya goes balls to the wall much like a person who comes out of rehab does. She doesn't know who she is and her friend keeps telling her that the old her was who she is so she throws herself full force into what she used to know
Haha. 'Balls the wall', I love that phrase, I used it recently myself.
I'm not sure why you're worried about spoiling US. We already know :)
The truth is that YOU were spoiled by those comments/hints. *Only because you asked for it,* I'll confirm that what you are thinking of from season 3 *are* the spirits or whatever term you used, so yeah, you're on track there. But you were supposed to still be confused about it at this point in the show. We all were the first time we saw it. Because that reveal isn't until later in the season.
It's kind of a bummer that people can't keep hints to themselves.
I'm with you in that I also usually don't like hints, and definitely not spoilers, but honestly, I feel like I needed to look back at the episode just to remember what those spirits were. I would've been just as confused when it was revealed because I'd completely forgotten about that whole thing. 🤦♂
Yea Anya was kicked out, she’s human now.
Yes! 👍 I was a bit slow with that. Haha.
Many excellent comments . My additions are semi repetitive. I have one observation/ question that has bothered me since my first rewatch. In Season 5, think Episode 12, Buffy has a disagreement with her history teacher about Rasputin and the Russian Revolution. The teacher makes fun of Buffy in the class and belittles her about her previous comments about odd sleeping habits of the elites and aristocracy before and during the revolution. It’s implied that Buffy was suggesting that there was a supernatural element to the revolution. Buffy carries this thought on later when she is fighting a vampire before Spike steps in. In this episode a point is made that Anya and Helfrich kill leaders in 1905 Russia and that they are in a place where they can do harm for awhile. Many historians view the start of the revolution in Russia starting in 1905 and not fully finishing until 1917. So my question is…. Does this validate what Buffy was saying about Rasputin and the basis of The Russian Revolution? Nothing is random in Buffy and why 1905 Russia in this episode? What the argument with the professor about Rasputin? Just wondering if anyone had insights, think it has merit, or has no meaning?
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1:22 I think I know what you’re talking about, and yes you’re right, and you’d probably be the only reactor I’ve ever watched who figured it out that early. Lol
I believe The Lexi Crowd actually called it correctly at the end of 7x1 ... but she's the only one I've seen actually get it before the show spells it out, without hints.
@@dennicaid7682 Oh! Yes you’re right! I forgot about that!
I can't take full credit for that; there's zero chance I'd have gotten it without being hinted about S3.
@@dennicaid7682 That's amazing, well done to whoever that is. I had absolutely no idea after seeing that final E1 scene.
@jaypeakay5864 Yeah everyone was seriously amazed!!
Seems like a lot of reaction viewers are around this season and episode recently.
This episode is considered by the crew to be a love letter to Anya.
Anya changed the world for the worse the first time viewers saw her and she has bragged of the horrible things she's done over the years without apology. The point of this episode is that she finally gets it and is growing up and realizing how wrong it all was. She is showing true guilt, remorse, and regret for the first time. It doesn't change her past, but it sets her on a new future.
Xander's argument in defense of Anya puts him square in the position he forced Buffy in during both Angel and Angelus' run on the show (S1-S3). He even had the nerve to try and say to Buffy she doesn't know how he feels. Now that he's in Buffy's position concerning his relationship with Anya, Buffy has to tell him off for not realizing it. He can argue with Buffy all he wants, but she does have a responsibility slayer-wise (and she had an arc where she learned the lesson she is now teaching Xander, from not being able to kill Angelus to only not beheadng him because his soul was restored). The Angelus arc showed her learning in other words. Five years later Xander is not only still dismissive of, but hasn't learned from until an argument where he's, once again, being dismissive of those moments Buffy was in and he is now in. One of Xander's best lines ever is, "There has to be another way." Not because of the line itself but because right after it he finally understands what he should have understood years ago.
Many people misunderstand the difference between Buffy repeating Faith's line in S3 about being the law and Buffy saying it in this episode. Buffy means it as the responsibility she has as the slayer. Faith meant it as they can do whatever they want. Buffy's mistake was just after Xander saying there has to be another way was to say to Xander and Willow she would give them time to help Anya only to immediately go try to kill her. But at the same time her situation in S2 is now why Buffy is taking more immediate action, before things get worse, and once again it makes Xander hypocritical, but possiblly realize it. Anya herself doesn't even agree with Xander and feels guilty enough to accept Buffy's punishment. Luckily Willow's to the rescue. At least until D'Hoffryn sacrifices Halfrek.
This episode is the moment the "Willow said kick his ass" line is revealed and made said reveal a letdown. Considering all the damage that line did, not even nearly five years should have stopped the argument that should have happened. If Buffy learned this happened five years earlier, her and Xander's friendship would have been broken beyond repair. There needed to be something said against Xander by both Buffy and Willow in their moment of finding out he lied five years ago.
Xander is the kind of person who, even when people state the fact that he's right, he still ends up being wrong because he makes himself a hypocrite by never dealing with any of his issues and blaming others for their issues, which can turn out to be the same issues as has, except other people learn from their issues and mistakes; Xander never has. So, as they mature and grow, even when in the wrong, Xander just ends up being in the wrong even if he has a point. This was always going to bite him in the ass one day.
Even at the same time he learns a lesson he still ends up a hypocrite at the end when he's telling Anya she shouldn't be alone in this. Thinking that after walking out on their wedding would have proven he's not his father more than walking away from the wedding proved he was by hurting her (and not talking to her about his own issues in advance of the wedding) did.
In-universe he doesn't learn from his mistakes, even on the rare occasions he does, and writing-wise he's more one dimensional than all other characters in the show because he's a write in for the creator.
If 7x03's _Same Time Same Place_ didn't convince me Willow and Anya finally put their issues aside (it did btw), this episode definitely did. Willow was the reason Buffy didn't need to follow through with her jump to kill attitude after saying Xander and Willow should find a way she wouldn't have to. Buffy still just jumped the gun a bit too soon, as I stated earlier in an earlier paragraph.
Love all the flashbacks. Joss wrote the song in one night when the _Hush_ flashback fell through.
Yes, there is a link between an episode in season 3 and this season's "big bad". You didn't say which ep you thought it was, but I suspect you've got the right one. When this first aired way back when, I was definitely confused by this villain/demon/whatever being able to change its shape/body/whatever. It had been years since season 3 had aired, I'd forgotten about that particular episode and I didn't put the two things together until well into the season! Honestly, season 7 is towards the bottom of the list for me, despite some very good episodes and great character moments (like this episode for Anya).
I suspect that you suspect right. Haha. FWIW, I'd completely forgotten about it too.
I haven’t been commenting much during season 7. It’s not my favorite season. I will say I must be more clueless than you. I have no idea what connection you made to previous seasons to figure out what’s torturing Spike in the basement. And I’ve watched all the seasons many times. 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe you should make Amends and go back to season 3. If you love the show you should know
@@meggo329 I do love the show! I’ve seen that episode numerous times but I never made the connection. What can I say? I’m just a bit slow on the uptake I suppose.
Haha. Don't worry, I had no idea until I read the episode descriptions. I spotted something and, somehow, I still had a faint memory of what went down. It was only when I watched it again that I fully got it.