Do Mormons REALLY Believe They Can Become Gods?
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I was a member for about 15 years starting in 1965. We were definitely taught that.
I was taught that when I was a kid in the 2000’s.
It’s only within the last few years that they’ve started to pretend otherwise.
I'm getting a star! LOL!
as someone born in the mid 2000s, can confirm I was also taught this
I wonder what they teach now, according to church doctrine because those I’ve heard of don’t say they do…. But is it doctrine?
I was taught this in the 2000s as well. My parents would talk about getting their own planet and whether or not they would have dinosaurs, since they believe God brought the dinosaurs from another planet.
Looking back, this was one of my first shelf items. We asked if there would be another Jesus and Satan...they told me yes. I did NOT want to be a Heavenly Mother who made two sons suffer- one to feel all the pain of the world and one for just speaking his plan in trying to get everyone back to heaven. It confused the hell out of me. That means God is not the end all be all- he has a God daddy who also treated him like crap.
Thank you for this, this is refreshing. I'm the black sheep of my family so when I call out inconsistencies, bad behavior, or anything else that my Mormon family doesn't want to acknowledge I'm called crazy. Expressing your frustration with all this madness helped me see this kind of stuff doesn't just happen to me. Thank you for the work you do.
My great aunt (who is still Mormon) told me I was crazy when I told her I didn't have any regrets.
That I was stupid for thinking that, if I could go back in time and marry rich, that I wouldn't want to do it, because I have my kids, and I could never wish them out of existence.
She said that I would have other kids.
Not the same kids, woman.
I love *my* kids. The ones that actually exist and I have watched grow, learn and have experienced life with.
You’re no crazy. They’re just mean.
One of the main reasons I joined the church was because they told me I could become a god some day!
Who wouldn’t want that!
I found immortality and god hood quite appealing.
I found it quite reductive when the ‘You believe you get your own planet.’ quip was trotted out.
My own planet! No, they were thinking too small! Think bigger, like my own universe!
That is ultimately the implication of deification in Mormonism. ‘Worlds without number’ ‘Immortality and eternal lives’
When it all fell apart during my faith deconstruction, I mourned the loss of that particular delusion of grandeur.
its the finality of things that gives them their meaning. immortality would literally be hell
@@jamescheddar4896 I have often thought about the statement about how the finality of things gives them their meaning. I have to disagree, I think it is a sentiment we tell ourselves to give us comfort about our coming state of non-existence. I think we can find meaning in whatever way we want to. I rewatch, reread things, and do things I have done countless times even though I know the outcome. They bring me joy even though I have experienced them many times before. There are countless other wonders that I will never be able to experience because of my limited mortality that I would love to explore from every conceivable angle over and over again.
If I could, I would choose god hood, or even immortality. I want to see what happens next.
It is true that after 1000s, millions, billions, trillions, etc years I might change my mind and long for nonexistence. But I like consciousness and want to continue that indefinitely. And even if it was tortuously boring eventually, I would at least still and exist. Deriving whatever meaning I wanted for that moment. Even if I am just experiencing the heat death of the universe. Eventually a quantum fluctuation will give rise to another Big Bang and start the process over again.
This is one of the things I mourned when I realized that there likely isn’t anything beyond mortality.
I know I went on for a while! Lol! But I feel that there needs to be a push back on the concept that finality gives things their meaning. We give things their meaning and that meaning can change with the different chapters of our lives. I feel that once we step into nonexistence there is no longer any meaning, especially after a couple of generations pass away and any memory of us has faded into oblivion.
But perhaps I am still dealing with he existential angst that occurs when we wake up to the truth! 😀
In The Good Place, I am definitely more of an Eleanor and not so much a Chidi.
@@themaskedmormon2878 that's all cosmic fantasy. it's sort of anti-scientific. we literally are nothing. the universe, mathematically speaking, is the result of 1-1, seeking a state of stillness. even if you were god you would eventually be unkillable and waiting in darkness after some eternities. But the fact that we aren't god actually makes our potential experiences infinite, humans could populate a few other solar systems and remain persistent in the universe. People still dig up tombs from neolithic times. There's value, its just miniscule compared to the promise of getting blown by 42 virgins or getting your own universe,
@@themaskedmormon2878thank you!
I keep seeing comments like that and it's refreshing to see your one about how immortality would be good.
While I understand that we treasure precious rare moments of our lives, we can also treasure things that last a long time and stand the test of time, like a tree or historical building or an old painting. I also would like my loved ones to live forever. I don't see how having them for a short time is preferable to keeping them forever.
Then there's the argument that you'd get bored of everything. I only get bored if there's not much to do or I'm tired of doing the same thing repititively or for a set period of time. But then I get into something else and something else and eventually get back to the first thing and I'm no longer bored of it.
So, I vote yes on immortality.
Welcome to a deconstructed world. Deconstruction precedes construction. Observing Mormonism from a distance, I’ve smiled, or smirked, at quaint notions such as this. “You have gods? In heaven, I suppose? So why since Joseph Smith died have these gods not manifested peace on earth? Or is Mormon godship just an eternal, self-indulgent picnic?” The leadership disowns its prior tenets!? I hope so. Of all the old beliefs I certainly hope Mormons have rejected all that old hierarchy which ranks souls by race and gender. You know the one: dark black women at the bottom bottom, light black higher, paler but still black higher, dark black men next, then the lighter and lighter, white women next, and the last, or actually first-now do I have to tell you?-white men, God’s highest 😮, peacemaking 😮, creature. Ahhh, what perfect, God-given order of things, right? No black people admitted to the church until the 1970’s. Why then? The embarrassment finally too great? To this day, no black person in leadership. All the women and all the black people in Utah, all 12 of them, should just leave, deconstruct, let the lily white men have their perfect planet all by themselves. How you endured all this so long is beyond belief. I can’t take it anymore, too. But that kicked in for me which I first studied Mormon beliefs. I’m subscribing not because I want to follow Mormons deconstructing, but because I admire your courage, your intelligence, your determination, your righteous fire-in other words, your genuine spiritual strength. Blessings.
Mormon church will promise you the world and then gaslight you into thinking you came up with that yourself
Absolutely
Literally
Actually God (and Jesus) will and do promise us the world! Jesus said we can become "Joint Heirs" with him and his father (and our father) - God! A great scripture I love is that "no man has seen nor ear heard the wonderful things that God has in store for those that love him! (So whatever our plans our, God has a much better plan in mind)!
😮 I honestly thought this was one of those beliefs that was being misconstrued by people outside of mormonism. Wild.
I was taught this in my temple prep class in 2005. I have since left the church in 2021
Hi Lexi, I have been taught this since I was a child 75 years ago. My Grandparents also were taught this concept. I told my wife that I never want to be a God. I had a hard enough time with the the kids and grandkids I have. Good work Lexi, keep it up.
I personally never want to be having more spirit babies and grand babies and babies of my babies ! Enough of mormonism mommy & me. Women are rising to higher vibrations of intelligence & equality
Shenanigannery has just become my favorite word!! This subject frustrated the hell out of me when I saw their denial of this doctrine a few years ago in the FAQ’s. My entire life I was taught this. Great job on the vid. Definitely hard to get past the BS, but as usual, you were spot on!
I’ve heard my dad say emphatically that he believes that he can become god of his own world, that he will be Heavenly Father of said world. 😂 perfect religion for narcissists
Well said!!!!
Religion in general breeds narcissism, but I find this especially true of LDS men. And it’s no wonder, their religion worships men
This is the attraction for this religion in general--Wanting so badly to be above everybody else.
If we are "sons and daughters" of the most high, Im sure he would want us to grow up and become more like him (not replace him though). God perhaps has loftier aspirations for us than we for ourselves. Becoming more like god - though would definitely be a "long term" thing (step by step) over millions of years. (We can always enjoy being with him along the way too - as that should be our first goal).
@@mylesmarkson1686 God wants "all" his children to be better. The problem is not all religions (which mostly are run by men) maybe don't realize the value (or destiny) of men. Thats okay too (step by step). Becoming more god-like is what jesus taught ("be even as I am"). Its a long step process, but easier in heaven.
I get the frustration, but this video now is a resource that people will be able to refer to in the future. Thanks for taking one for the team! 🙂
The new from my Alpha grandkids is they are aware (of this & other B.s) BUT it was all symbolic of a bigger picture.
Omfg the rock vs stone thing just broke my brain.... your patience with people like that is amazing.
wait until that guy realizes that means no one ever read the gold plates ( 'um, they are not gold anymore....)
I'll be honest, I was gaslighted to the point of doubting myself on this. I remembered being taught the doctrine so many times, but seeing statements from the church and hearing other Mormons tell me that it wasn't true really made me question my own memory. Thanks for setting the record straight!
I heard this all the time as a Mormon. I don’t know who wouldn’t hear about this as a Mormon?
It’s foundational to their Theology, along with a Spirit Jesus, a created Jesus; Heavenly Father ' & Heavenly Mother had sex and created you and me and Jesus. This is how it begins. I think the people who don’t believe it are embarrassed because it’s so out there & absolutely not true. And why are church Leaders lying about it, acting like they’re really not sure, yet Lexi read several Documents by many Leaders in the Church & they were quite clear about the end game for the believer. Well done Lexi & Backing it up!
My wife and I are in our 50s and we DEFINITELY learned, and taught, this all our lives before leaving. I think this is one of those things they kind of stop emphasizing but never disavow hoping it will drift off into the past. Crummy church! Thanks Lex, great work!!!!
Joe Smith's explanation on Gods/Goddesses is pretty clear. Any mormon denying it is just doing PR. I was taught this doctrine in seminary too, without a doubt, and got clarification that Exaltation is the top level of Celestial glory, so the planet-creating Fatherly stuff.
Nailed it!
Loved every angle you took with this one. The church has always, until recent years, taught that we would get our own planets/worlds/ kingdoms or whatever.
Liar, liar, the church's pants are on fire. 🔥
When I was on my mission, there were people who came up to us and they said they thought it was blasphemy that we thought that we could become gods. Other people who literally weren't LDS know that that's what we believed lol. And when I was in church and at home I was taught that I could become a god and create worlds my whole life.
Thats cool! (what mission did you serve in)? I did one as well.(I think when people hear this they naturally think it somewhat presumptuous, or lofty) However its not to "replace god" but to grow up and become better (like any parent would want for their children). He wants it for all mankind (regardless of our religions or temporary beliefs now here on earth) which is but a small (albeit) important step to take.
This was one of the few things I thought would be awesome about the Mormon afterlife when I believed it. I haven’t had a great relationship with my family really, and so this one was a better promise than the “families can be together forever” doctrine. It was one of the things I had to grieve when I left. And when the church gaslights people about it… that makes me SO MAD!
how many mormon families fight like cats and dogs and live in miserable homes, and yet always express eternal families. i'm sure it's the norm.
Hinkley's interview with Larry King where he was asked about the god thing and said "I don't know that we teach it"
I was a full believing Mormon at the time and was like "Uh... yes you do" At the time ,it actually kinda confused me that he would say that.
When I was in priests class, our teacher taught us a "new" lesson every week. Except that every lesson just ended up being the Plan of Salvation and yes, gods. I was specifically taught that I would be a god.
i too, heard it exactly like you did.
nowadays mormonism is changing. they have a thing called "fair mormon" to facillitate the changes.
fair mormon can say anything, and if they get caught, the mormon church can just throw "fair mormon" under the bus and say it isn't official.
when i was young we didn't have "fair mormon". we had a prophet and we all raised our hand to the square to sustain the prophet. that was back when the word sustain meant sustain.
YEP!!
Doctrine and Covenants or D&C 132 15:20 talks about becoming gods. I think they steer away from teaching section 132. 🤔
@@heidisorenson4678I have an old book that teaches about the D&C from the 1980's. It clearly states " If a couple has their marriage sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise, they will be gods for all eternity". You have to be married, according to the Church to obtain this.
Look at D&C 131 about Eternal Increase. Also, check out the 1916 statement from June 16th by the First presidency. In part it states only mature souls who have passed through several stages will have " spirits born to them in eternal worlds". In other words marriage, love and death are all entwined forever.
I like the idea, but why does the Church need to stick themselves in the middle? How come they need money and control from me to get what's natural in due course? The answer is, they don't. This is my Path. I am becoming... The Church is a relic of the past. Just be open to Heavenly Mother and it will all go fine.
I am 75
I was taught this. No question.
I told them I did not want to be anyone's God.
The people telling me this were shocked.
Being a god doesn't necessarily mean ruling over people (it could mean a lot of things) like being more advanced - and progressing spiritually.
Reminds me of that line from the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe: "do not recite the deep magic to me, witch! I was there when it was written". deep magic here being obviously taught doctrine that they deny to the public because they don't want to seem weird.
I personally had never heard of this teaching until well after leaving, but I’m not surprised. Of course mormons want to become gods after spending their lives enslaved to one 😅
I grew up in the church and about 16 yrs old I was done with the church but I absolutely believed this and was taught it all the time! I heard it in so many settings! The church IS frustrating! I don't know how you do this. I could never😅😅
Great video. Thanks for such thorough coverage of the topic. It is extremely frustrating when being lied to and gaslighted by people who claim to be the most loving and trustworthy.
I was a convert to the church and was taught this. I never believed it, being God one day never sat right with me and God being a man once never sat right with me. It's now one of the many reasons I'm leaving the church
Awesome video! I grew up in the church, leaving sometime around 16. It was great hearing you speak about the inconsistencies and gaslighting. Makes me feel validated for always calling bullcrap since I was a kid.
This is the most comprehensive and concise overview I have ever seen on the Mormon church's history of teaching and subsequent gaslighting on whether or not God was once a normal human like us and on whether or not we can become gods with our own planets. Well done, Lexi. I'm a never Mormon, but I choose to subject myself to Mormons regularly, and this video resonated with me on so many levels. I probably wouldn't ever share most of your content with any of my Mormon friends, but this video was pretty much just straight-up facts with a little bit of sincere, heart-felt anecdote mixed in. I am actually considering sharing this video with some of my Mormon friends that I suspect are a bit more open to it, just because you've put all of this information together in a way that is so factual and palatable in its presentation.
Exmo, this is one of your best videos and I've watched almost every one of them. You've obviously done lots of deep prep for this talk and hence you've done an excellent job of explaining the truth around these topics. Your knowledge of the many problems with the LDS church has improved dramatically over the years and I have always looked forward to your next message. Keep up the great work!
After taking missionary discussions (this was about 40 years ago) we both joined the church and we're baptized. She because she wanted to me because I didn't want to disappoint her, within a few weeks I was in the priesthood elders quorum class and the new manual. This is about 1980. Had Brigham Young teaching that we could become gods and have our own planet and all this stuff. And the problem is the missionaries never revealed this to us. They withheld this information. When I showed it to my wife there was a huge blow up but they seemed to smooth her over and she stayed in the church. Since then, I embarked on a 2-year study of church history and came to realize that church is a complex and colossal fraud and had my name removed. But this is the type of thing they withheld from investigators so they couldn't make an informed decision and they always say well withholding something is just as like lying of course their hypocrites cuz it's exactly what they do. I'm certainly by Gordon Hinckley will deny it in public and try to minimize it so he doesn't look like a bunch of lunatics to the general public. I think that Vladimir Putin should pull out of Ukraine and join the Mormon church. Then he can have an entire planet and not just a single country
about 1969 in elders quorum class the book actually printed that god had sex with mary and that's where jesus came from.
i'm pretty sure that was in no missionary discussion.
anyway, more than one person had a quick wake up call in elders quorum.
I was a member for 40 years, having left last year. Yes, it was taught. Period.
I was never taught it. Exclamation point.
I have a feeling that they will change their tune to whatever makes money. So if being a God is no longer believable... they will deny their teachings of the past.
This video is a perfect example of why I love your channel.
You aren’t afraid to cover the real hot topics that Mormons don’t wanna talk about, you do your research - real thorough research AND, despite it being so frustrating, as you’ve said, you keep it as neutral as possible and cover all angles.
With a bunch of my family still being in, this is the kind of information and approach that’s best for a lot of us when we’re trying to bridges gap between our own feelings but not wanting to ruin our family relationships.
And THIS is why I sub. You deserve it.
Thank you so so much for all that you do, you are an absolute QUEEN.
Can you talk about “Kolob” Mormons are also super weird about that belief. I was taught it but other Mormons get upset when I ask about it
Kolob is taught in the book or abraham. Also 15 other planets as well - all going back to the order of Kolob (which is the star/planet) nearest to the abode of God. (Super interesting and only a few chapters long)!
The church pretending like they never openly taught all of this is basically gaslighting.
I remember being taught about becoming Gods and getting our own planets in PRIMARY lessons in the mid 1990s.
Was taught in 80s men get a planet. 1980s it was taught. Wives will be helper with husbands planets. Men can work up to many planets. I left in 1992.
I remember being taught this in church and at the time I was obsessed with Warcraft and they asked each of us what would we create in our world I told them orcs, humans, elf’s and the undead they all looked at me like I was crazy lol
Lol! They aren't the crazy ones at all. 😅
I love that you literally wanted to create the world of Warcraft
Strength and power to you as you speak truth! ✊🏽❤️
17:10 “it’s not just a boulder…ITS A ROCK”
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SpongeBob!!!
"Deep doctrine" topics play a much bigger role in the church than they'd like to let on.
It was the doctrine about Heavenly Mother that had lead my mom to join the church. Growing up, I was excited about the prospect of making worlds and would come up with all sorts of wild ideas of the things I'd like to do.
they sing about heavenly mother. that part is doctrine. it's hand in glove with polygamy. they don't teach be a goddess. that is not doctrine. no scripture allows a woman to be a goddess. be a mother be a harem trophy be 2nd class. yes that's mormonism. be a goddess. no.
In the temple, during a sealing ceremony, they say priest and priestess as one of the promises of exaltation.
Thank you for quoting so many sources! And also for being level-headed, I think a TBM could watch this and not get turned off
U R A MA ZING!!! Fantastic research. Well done 👏👏👏
As a Utah nerver-mo growing up in the 80s, I was usually told that this was not a belief and was more anti-church rhetoric. I wonder if this was a tactic to seem less weird to a potential convert or a matter of semantics.
Yep, you hit the nail on the head.
Some leaders emphasize how different Mormons are from the rest of the world. I attended a fireside devotional titled "Man, Are You Weird?" and the teacher had written it on the board and pointed out how "unique" Mormons are with their "high standards" and "access to devine revelation" and Monson and Hinkley were all about "Be Proud to be a Mormon"
Other leaders go "Oh no, Mormons aren't different from any other Christian faith." And that's how Nelson is trying to play things.
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2:22 we are literally promised in the temple that we will become “gods and goddesses.”
*Running excitedly* Oh wow I think I see a stone!!! *picks it up* Aww, it's just a rock...
I'm gen z, and even I was taught this in sunday school. It's crazy how they're pretending like this is such a distant concept
The answer is absolutely YES.
"As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become" --mormon theology... straight up from Joseph Smith Jr
marcus
This is the quote that came to my mind.
I was absolutely taught that when I was in the church back in the 80's and 90's. There was no hedging then, we were told we would become gods ourselves and create our own worlds/planets. I remember both words being used, so, yeah.
As an exmormon, I don’t see how believing this as an anti Mormon thing or as a bad thing in general. If I’m going to be forced to live for all eternity, I might as well become an all powerful being myself.
Thx for doing the research. I know it is hard work and your motives are pure.
My entire family believes they'll become gods. When I was a kid, I was dead set on ignoring the "like god" part and just making my world Pandora from Avatar
I was born in the 90's and we were absolutely taught that we would become gods someday. What they failed to tell us in young women's is that it's really your future husband who gets to do all the god stuff while you just function as a spirit-baby-making machine for all of time along with the rest of your future husband's other polygamous wives. Which is what the doctrine actually is for women/afab people. Which is terrible.
also, as an ex fundie who likes learning about different sects, cults and religions it occurs to me that if god was once a man, then wouldn't that make him imperfect? or perhaps I'm missing something, like perhaps those that reach the celestial kingdom are perfect or perfected? honestly, I'm super fascinated by this concept.
Yes I was taught this doctrine growing up in the church.
This is SO good. Thorough, concise, clear. Pretty irrefutable!
A distinction without a difference. I remember being taught these things in church but I don't really discuss them with my TBM parents. I think part of me always found the teachings strange.
My parents taught me and my sisters that we would become gods and get our own planets, and as kids we would brainstorm ideas for what we would do with ours. I brought the doctrine up to my (possibly tbm, possibly pimo?) friends and they said they had never heard of it
And one thing I really don't like about the church is how they try so hard to cover up bizarre doctrines such as this one (see also: polygamy and racism) and then turn right around and claim that the church is the One True Church - how can something be true if doctrine and teachings are constantly changing and being hidden and devoted tbms can have wildly different views on all of it?
I thought the Endowment Video says the exact words "That they may become Priest and Priestesses, Gods and Goddesses"? It did when I was TBM 7 years ago.
It did the same when I was active 5 years ago!
Lori and Chad Daybell 😱
About 6 years for me and I do remember this. They have apparently made quite a few changes since then ...*eye roll*
Another excellent and well researched presentation from you! I LOL'd at the word "shenaniganry"! Such a cool word that I never heard before, but it's in the dictionary as "rare use". I adore you!
Yep, it was in the gospel principles book when I joined the church in 2010.
As a 52 y/o male in the Church all my life, residing primarily in southern and western Idaho, I attest that the official and frequent teaching of top Church leaders was that we were gods in embryo and would create and populate worlds without end. Prophets, Seers, and Revelators whom we’re told cannot lead us astray voiced these claims as promises. D&C 76: “as it is written, they are gods.”
Joseph Smith would have been a great science fiction writer!
That's his claim to fame!
Just like L Ron Hubbard. Both false prophets that the Bible warned us about. We cannot be gods or be like God. There is only one God. This aspect of Mormon theology is blasphemy. It is literally the original sin.
The church says one thing in public, another thing in private devotionals, another thing in general conference, and another thing inside temples. It’s hard to keep all the lies straight. 🤦♂️
Thank you so much for this thorough presentation!! I left the church many years ago out of high school but my sweet sister is still in with her Mormon family. I would love to know exactly what my sisters thoughts are on all this. But as close as we are in some ways, she now insists that we no longer engage on questioning her beliefs. My husband is a Pastor and loves her dearly and would love to engage with her but she closed that door. We hope and pray that someday her eyes will be opened to the truth. 🙏🏻 Thanks so much for taking the time to do the research for this video.❤
Well done Lex!
Great job!
Wow it’s almost like we left because we actually paid attention to what we were reading… and the ones who stay never learned reading comprehension
Well said! Thanks for the great video.
I absolutely was taught this when I was a child and young woman. Then, at sixteen, I saw the error of my ways and left the LDS cult and found my own path.
I’m a 84 year old Woman who joined the church at 17 and left the church in 2023 and yes that’s one of their teachings!!! Thank you so much for your videos and the Truth !!!
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I was definitely taught this growing up. But on a deeper level if the end goal is a man God ruling over infinite kingdoms and children, you start to see how entitled and controlling by default, many young men assume is a natural progression to God hood, and why the wife and children should literally submit to their husband "under God". Disgusting.
Great video as usual
The gaslighting that the church engages in is ASTOUNDING! The mental gymnastics required to make it make sense is UNREAL.
It’s not a cow, it’s a bovine! Lolz
Great video! ❤
This was obviously a lot of work. Thank you.
Laugh so you don't cry.
The comment if the Mormon to you regarding the Urim and Thummin reminded me of Spongebob.
"It's not just a boulder! It's a rock!"
I definitely heard about this as well when I was a member.
Potato patahto. I get your frustration! The church needs to get it's sh*t together! Or, as is happening, people will just keep leaving.
They can't.. they've made up nonsense into a corner these days...
OMG Lexi, the amount of research you put into this is just amazying! Hats (or maybe Caps) off to you! I wish I had been your blood pressure monitor when you talked to that person who informed you 'It was NOT a rock, it was a STONE!' You much have done a head slap right there! If, you do drink here and now, I hope you poured yourself one after this filming! Great job girl!
Love you, love seeing your face, love your long form the most BUT please also take breaks if you need. I don’t want you to burn out. You talk about such heavy stuff, just want to make sure you are taking care of you. All the hugs!!!
For all eternity??? Meaning there's always going to be suffering and death???
Sounds a lot like hell to me where suffering never ends 😪😪😪.
It is a breach of the ninth commandment for the church to claim they never taught this.
My grandson is talking to LDS missionaries and they are definitely teaching him that.
"It was a stone, not a rock"😂 if you don't laugh, you'll cry! Or tear your hair out as you said
Thanks for making this video! I've open-mindedly chatted to many Mormon missionaries over the years and I was very confused about why some of them openly taught this doctrine, some of them used the "mere speculation" line, and others completely dismissed it. This also ties in with the concept of God having a wife, which receives the same sort of comments. I hope you can make a video on that particular topic too!
I was told by 2 young missionaries that we will become gods if we are worthy. Also, one told me that my wife will become a goddess and the other on a different occasion said if I married twice, both wives will be with me forever in heaven.
Polygamy heaven is what it is.
You do a great job Lexi !
Shenaniganery. LOL Thanks for this! 🤣🤣🤣
As a Mexican I Sub tu your channel just for the new word I learn today. (Shenanigannery)
I didn't know this isn't common knowledge. I think I even taught this on my mission. Never thougt this was a weird or controversial doctrine. Thank you for doing the research on this.
I friggin love you !
Thanks!
Thank YOU! ♥️♥️♥️
We don’t need to make stuff up to embarrass the Mormon Church
Just wondering if you have to have your second anointing before you become a god? Also can I pick my own planet? Like I don’t want to be neighbors with Pluto, I hear the weather there is pretty cold. Bhahaha!!😂
I was taught that when I joined, as well, and it's one of the reasons I joined. "As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may become." It was a big part of the whole plan of salvation. Loved it!
Nailed it Lex. I was taught this too and I remember thinking: but what if I don’t want to? If I didn’t want to have 12 kids, why would I want millions!?
The Godhood belief is central to LDS beliefs. It's weird that they deny it at times. "King Follet isn't doctrine!" But it is. I remember a Stake Conference where the pres made it a major theme. In one discussion with Bishop, he was clear he was offended at the God Makers, but admitted, yes, this is what we believe. The shyness comes from the desire not to turn off potential converts.
Lex, I'm so very thankful to you for your videos! I have been researching this, thank you so much! I am out!!! No more Mormon BS for me, no more religion, period!
I saved this video to listen again, and I'll be taking notes regarding all your sources.
I hope you know just how much you've helped so many!
I don't know if you came up with the word "shenaniganary" or not, but it sounds fun and I need to start using it.
I learned this in seminary, and my partner was only interested in the church because the missionaries he was talking to told him about it