1st Drive £60k Cupra Formentor with ABT Performance Pack | 4k
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Running Order of this video;
00:00 Intro
00:55 What is the ABT Performance Pack?
04:35 0-60 Test
05:45 The bad bits
07:00 What's it like on the road
16:20 My Verdict
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Aside from the price, what a car! Cupra got the design and styling of the Formentor absolutely nailed! I don't think there is a bad angle! Great video, Joe.
I love my formentor VZ3, great car. This editon at 60k is silly, there are new RS3s sat on forecourts for less money. Shame the VZ5 hasn't come to UK
I thought hmm £60k for the 2.5l 5 cylinder audi engine.. okay, but turns out it’s an overpriced 4 cylinder.
Wish we got the 5 pot version, although I'm fairly certain this handles and feels better due to much less weight in the nose, also only 30hp down on the 5 too!
But it doesnt have the 5 pot sound Joe@JoeAchilles1
@@PeterSothernneither does the modern 5cylinder!
@@pauldavies7251DAZA does..
Basically a jacked up Golf R for £60k. Infreakin’ hate the state of the new car market these days. Ridiculous pricing
60k for a 4 cilinder seat??? omg, the world is getting crazy.
What is your opinion about the C63 AMG?
Looks good, but personnaly, and as a formentor VZ owner, I spent 1/4th of that ABT package money for a stage1 + DSG tune + short springs+fitting+geometry. Hard to beat ... anyways, that formentor looks great and I really like your review, and all of your reviews in general
Exactly, better to ditch the abt and go independent for any mods.
Yes you can but remember you still have the SEAT factory warranty on this car plus the seats, wheels and brakes will cost you the price of the ABT cars uplift of £9k, it’s actually not bad value (for the kit, and may be the car)
@@jamest5149 I agree, good point indeed for the warranty. I would pass the wheels though, and the "normal" bucket seats are nice enough in my opinion. Looks great all black I have to admit :)
Great video Joe. Love the formentor. I'm really hoping the weather dries up. Assuming thats why you've not posted "first m2 drive" video yet? So looking forward to it!!
Really enjoyed the review Joe! The car looks great on the road as well and the seats look very special. Take away the questionable paddles and your pretty much set with the power/style/handling and braking which ABT offers. Cool that it is a dealer approved thing which would also make things more seamless on insurance as it is an OEM model I presume which you can just select? Anyhow, great stuff and looking forward to hopefully meeting up in April for a film 👍
Should have just sold the VZ5 with the 2.5L over here.
60K for a Seat🤦♂️😂 The world has well and truly gone mad!
Well, manufacturing has changed quite a lot. It's not the same "cheap" Seat as it was before. The Seats are the same you get in the RS3, RS4, RS5 and RS6 Performance.
And looks better than anything for that price as I have one (Not tuned)
yet youd spend that for a golf r
Take a seat mate
@@t3chn0m0 even if you put porsche seats in it... it stays a 4 cilinder seat. 😉🤌
May as well get a slightly used vz2 or vz3 for 30k
I agree and then carry out a Stage 2 or Stage 3 tune with appropriate hardware for £5-£10k and end up 450+bhp Formentor. ABt stuff is always way over priced.
Great video Joe. Would be interested to see the comparison to a Tiguan R. As for the gearbox on this formentor have you try turning all the assists off after putting it into manual mode to see if it changes gear still? Worth a go. Only say this as my old F10 530D would change in manual mode automatically until I switched off the assists fully after selecting manual mode and sport.
Excuse me, but what is a Formentor VZ3? From Germany, I only know the Formentor VZ 2.0 TSI with 310PS 4 Cylinder and the Formentor VZ5 with the 390 PS 5 Cylinder.
Sat in the Formentor, love the look, the colours etc, have to say though, I was disappointed by the cheap plastics…I’m guessing I’d get used to it but sure did feel like a step down from what I’m used to…
60k is a lot for a seat but I love the styling of this car 👌
Are these the same seats as the rs4 comp?
A good review thanks,.. I have the VZ3 and I think the range should have a low key body kit - perhaps an extra vent or two - to indicate that it's the performance version.
RSQ3 or X3M40i is a better bet.
I had the previous Cupra R ABT the one you reviewed a few years ago, people going on about pricing I agree. Mind you, I paid 31k new for and sold it two years later with 21k miles for…. 31k. So can’t complain!
How it feels down the low range rpms torque wise compared to the regular version without the ABT pack? I also question if the torque curve changed and get some more torque below 2000rpms as it would normally have the max torque value before.
Do you know if it's possible to get the ABT parts individually? Can you get the wheels and suspension on their own?
Hi Joe, excellent video buddy 👍😉
Another great video! Joe, I'm confused how Mat Watson got a 4.31 0-60 in a VZ2 on a damp test road, and this 9k upgrade has somehow slow it down?
Looks epic
Eying an 2nd hand VZe for a daily. Love the looks of it.
Pay the extra and buy the x40i with a wonderful B58 that will go on forever.
Ditch both & get a Macan
Joe's videos are getting more and more like Harry's Garage videos! From the thumbnail to the intro shots
Everyone talking about £60k for a ‘Seat’. How about £60k for a Yaris instead! 😂
Was thinking exactly the same!
I have never seen a 60k yaris in my life. Stop reaching
@@xyzzz3863 Toyota just released the prices for the new facelift GR Yaris and two special editions. The special editions are £60k.
Apparently the new special edition GR Yaris models will be £60k, standard models a bargain at £45k!
@@jakbad7268 The bargain is the original at £35k, 95% of the facelift. Did you delete my comment? 🤷🏼♂️
I have 190 horsepower version - I don't miss power and infotainment is alright IMO. The thing I complain about Formentor is a road noise - I have no idea why reviewers are not talking about it?
This is an insult to Brits, and for 1 reason. The Formentor VZ5.
This is basically a slightly modified Formentor. Why did they do that instead of bringing the VZ5 with the RS3 5 cylinder to the UK. Why waste 60k for what's essentially a T Rock R with a stage 1 remap and some front brakes. I would assume that to buy a stock Formentor and get it to this level would be cheaper than to buy this one. The only upside to this is that it's all from factor which means warrenty won't be affected. But still, go to Europe and get yourself a VZ5.
Simply because the Ea855 is sacred and limited in Audi’s books so only reserved for the rs3 and rsq3s, which are by the way stopped being able to be ordered in the UK due to supply issues😅
Great video as always Joe. Thank you. I think for the money, people are better off spending £15k less on a second hand Audi RS4 Avant with its 2.9TT and pocket the change to invest or go on holiday! 🤪
Just get a new used VZ3 for £43k (one in Autotrader) and put proper maps, an intake, lowering springs and better brakes on it and you have 400bhp with a better DSG map and a car that will do sub 4 seconds to 60mph. Alternatively buy the ABT one new in Autotrader at £55k with £5k off list!
Audi RsQ3 for similar money with 400ps and 5 cylinder engine is better option
ABT usually use piggyback ECUs, from what ive heard they dont seem to hit the listed figures sadly going waaay under just like those bullshit tuning boxes, at least on the diesels like the s4.
Formentor with the 5cyl engine is a great car ngl❤️.
Imagine having VZ5 and tuned with stage 2 downpipe amd boosted turbo...500+ hp that should do 😎
VS5 definitely should be in the UK.
I still prefer the CUPRA Leon. Lower COG, more poised.
60K...OUCH!!!!!.
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Not sure about 60k, on autotrader there is one going for £39,000 with almost 7000 miles on it.
It doesn't have all the upgrades on it, it doesn't have the upgraded ABT seats
Wow cars have got so expensive, £60k for a seat with a 2 litre 4 pot! 😮😮😮
I'd rather go for the X3 M40i for that money can't beat that B58 engine and much easier to get in and out of.
I have a 310 and it’s quite annoying that this isn’t offered as a dealer fit and manufacturer approved set of upgrades such as Ford did with Mountune.
For the same money can get VZ5 5-cyl version
People still complaining about the cost of cars 😬🤷🏼♂️ yes, shock, since 2021 new cars now cost more, let’s move on ! You either accept new cars are likely 20-40% more than you think, or you buy used, simples 😊
Problem is you only get less for that money since vag and the rest want to get the money they lost on their fraud off the customer. The 7.5 Golf R has a more premium interior than a 50 mk8.
VZ5 That's the one to go.
The only version of this that makes even some sense at this price point is the VZ5....and even thats pushing it.
I looked at these when they first released and ended up going with an RSQ3 instead.
Good video mate, I agree the paddles are ridiculous. Some nicely designed copper ones would have been much better.
P.S £60k #bandwagon #getoverit 😂😂😂
I bought a 1 year old Model Y Performance (mainly as a business expense) - and I have to say for the same money I’d rather have the Tesla. I miss the noise but the Tesla would destroy this in almost any situation. I also only paid £44k. £60k is ridiculous!
Depreciation will be horrendous !
Maybe … maybe not. Limited editions, with some substance tend to hold their values decently.
@davidhayes4814 the special akrapovic & abt atecas r worth nothing, this car isn't like the m4 csl it's too basic to warrant an increase in value.
@@davidhayes4814it’s a seat. 4 years it will be under 20k 😂
Probably not as there will be only 160. The last official ABT Cupra, the R ST Leon, were around £31k back in 2019. Five years later you'll still pay around £28k and that's if you can actually find one.
looks like AUDI interior :)
My 60k is going on an M2!
They're 2 completely different cars 🤦♂️
My 60k is going on an RS4 Avant 🤷♂️
@@pauldavies7251 that’s exactly the point. The cupra in my opinion doesn’t warrant a 60 grand price tag whereas the M2 does, far more special than the cupra too. Seats and other little bits aside the performance can be had with a tuning box for a few hundred pounds. Cupra not even in the same league as an M2 yet it’s M2 money!
That 60k m2 will be 20k in a few years choose wisely
@@marcust123 guaranteed future value after for years is just under 34 grand. Got it for 59 grand. Every car is going to tank in value, just buy a nail and drive that if depreciation worries you.
@@Jim-jw8gb it doesnt worry me at all i never buy brand new so i dont loose that much you can pick up a bmw m2 for 20-25k now 4 years old that means its lost half of its value and more
60K pounds is outrageous for a Cupra
Similar cost to an Ioniq 5N with 650PS and arguably far superior driving dynamics.
Good for you!
@@JoeAchilles1 Will stick with my i20N and 140i (future classics). Your reviews made me buy the 140i way back in 2016 🙂
@@penguinred651they'll never be classics sorry to disappoint you
@@pauldavies7251 Of course they will, unfortunately you're thinking of the moment.
I swapped my cupra for a mk4 megane rs, it is too capable and gets boring where as the meg 4rs is perfect for road fun and sounds better in my opinion.
Nice looking car but that’s £8k more than I’ve just paid for a brand new m2 😂
What’s your point?
The M2 is 2+2 Coupe and this is a proper 4 seat SUV, with a tuning company upgrade.
Also, the RRP of a base spec M2 is £66k, let’s see what’s the discounts on this might be in 12 months !
My point is it’s expensive compared to what your can buy for £50-60k that’s all. Chill your beans 🫘
@@user-xs8di8xs9fyea exactly, don't get why someone wouldn't just get the ateca or tiguan R at that point, pretty sure the tiguan has fancier suspension tech
Please tell me where you got a brand new M2 for £52k. I want one!
@@paulcs2607 the deals are out there mate shop around you can get close to 20% off. I have a good relationship with BMW dealer and change my car regularly so I get very good packages.
£60k what numpty is going to pay/finance that 😂😂
No hood struts, power box, brake calipers mounted "outside", fake carbon inside, hard plastics... What a joke of a car
Spenny that
Hopefully they have fitted the 60k cars with a steering wheel that wont need replaced 🤦🏼♂️
Cant really compare the formentor to an X3 the X3 is in a totally different planet. For starters the boot on a formentor is awful comparatively speaking. It's a class below car . Madness price .
so joe tell us true you like love cupra company you need see around the world only say positive best for cupra and no need proof vz beat audi vw brothers and is first suv vs vw vs audi never spin no matter rain or snow this vz never never spin thanks to Haldex Gen the best n the world is mother of antispin system and dont stuck on paddles you can easy fix that or just buy only with exhaust akra and nothing else and is be little cheaper and later you go tuned upgrade this suv beat any suv of category trust me.
Another cheap car …… £60,000 yikes…….
It's only going to get worse too unfortunately.... 😏
I dont understand these comments. Who on earth wants to sit here and watch vauxhall corsa and vw polo reviews. INTERESTING CARS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE. Deal with it 😂
@@jaketutton7861u lost me at “interesting”
@@jaketutton7861 These people just complain about everything. They are sitting in front of the TV oder Monitor, have almost no clue, never sat in one and still comment "Overpriced Seat". Then start to compare brand new cars with 12 year old AMGs with 150.0000Km on the Speedo....it's pure commedy.
@t3chn0m0 just as you are making your opinion known. The other viewers also share that right. But here you guys are in front of your screens complaining about other viewers complaining. Do you see the hypocrisy?
And honestly, at any given time, you might be the only one who can't afford one of these. Yet you speak as if you are certain about other viewers life story. You must be psychic or just kevin enabled.
Massively overpriced tbh for an average car
Expensive yes, it's no average car though.
60k for a slow Seat, mad.
Joe can’t do a review without mentioning bmw 😂
9 grand is a bit of rip off, you could get more work done independently for that money. People who are chasing figures are more likely to do that n void the warranty. Feels like a bit of a pointless option. Used to really like these but you see too many on the road now, theyve really lost their charm. More common then mk7 & .5 R's nowadays.
Oh dear…
It is called A B T
No, Abt is the name of the family that have owned the business for several generations.
60 grand?😮😮😮 i would rather buy a RS3
Ridiculous money 😂 4 pot. Doesn’t matter how good it looks. Interior doesn’t look anywhere near that money’s worth. Can get an A45S for less. Or an M2 Comp for half the money 😂 Got to be mad to buy one of these but I like the way it looks and clearly it goes well.
The basic car is 48k in the uk it’s 79k in Ireland ffs
sorry stopped watching at 60k for a seat
Nice used buy for 40k in 18 months
Nissan Juke with eBay special extras 😣
Nice car but 60k you must be joking
"In terms of driving position, it's a Volkswagen group car, so it's never going to be perfect like a Porsche 911"...last time I looked, I do believe a Porsche 911 IS a VW group car too.
What utter c**p
Good point, I should have said part of the VW group shared platform cars, a Porsche 911 is completely unrelated build wise, hence totally different levels of driving position, very average vs bloody brilliant.
What does 9k extra give you. About 3 K of improvements and 6k to probably the most over rated performance and body kit specialists.
ABTsolutely lovely, but ££
just get a Rsq3 😂
60k fml
£60k…”WTF” 🤦🏻♂️
To much money for what it is 60k no way
It's still a cupra....pay a bit more and buy the X3m
"A bit more" = £34k more.
New yes.....! Buy used 2 year old under 10k similar price. residual will always be better and far better car in every way
@@morris-or9izWho wants a 2 year old X3M that’s probably been thrashed about.
@@LavisPwho wants a 60k seat 😂
@@LavisPI Wouldn’t call a 2 year old car under 10k miles thrashed out.
60k for a seat 😂
The Formentor isnt a bad car.. if it wasnt for all the VW correlated software issues that come with it. Def not worth the price.
60k 😂
Car manufacturers have gone mad.
Global cost of living crisis and this is what we get 😂
Delusional
£60K for this 4 banger Seat barge. Nah. Mental.