only 2 out of 5 really and marvel's Illuminati is pretty much a group of heroes who act like villains and seem to make everything worse without ever learning their lesson.
Nope. 3 out of 5. Professor X, Mr. Fantastic, and Iron Man all voted to send Hulk into space. If you want to go even further, Yellowjacket (Hank Pym) was also part of the Illuminati, so you could say: "4 out of 5 of these people were part of a secret organization that once voted to send the Hulk into space"
In all fairness, Magneto had just stripped the Adamantium from Wolverine's body through his freaking pores! If the Professor was in Wolverine's head at all and felt the pain he felt, I don't blame him for losing his cool. The end result though... Magneto's evil mixed with the darkness already inside Xavier... Yikes! Enter Onslaught, the psychic being who kind of psychically "ate" Franklin Richards (and others?) and was then able to use their powers. I think he even had some of Magneto's power in him. O.P.! 😜
You are aware that most of what you detailed about Charles is just wrong. I mean completely fucking wrong, as in you're ignoring context that actually makes him the good guy wrong for clicks. For example... Charles never shot the Hulk into space, in fact he was adamantly against it to the point of rescinding his role in the Illuminati.
***** I don't quite remember that storyline... but given how full of shit they were about every other detail... including the rise of Onslaught for which Xavier didn't absorb the mind of Magneto, he shut it down entirely because he was doing some insane genocidal shit and that leaked into his own subconscious; I'm not at all inclined to believe that he is the bad guy in that scenario. Also the details of that event puts him squarely as the good guy... but either way, what are the issues that detail the context of that particular event?
The idea for Charles was to shut Magnetos mind down, but he did indeed end up absorbing it, or at least parts of it. It wasn't on purpose, though .... It wasn't noticed at first, but was revealed slowly.
RubberyCat Yeah... hence the context of that being unintentional. He didn't want to absorb his mind... he just did it with parts of his mind without realizing it.
Yeah, and using his abilities to help protect the entire ability from a reckless child omega level mutant is definitely a minor wrong for the betterment of the entire world. Starting off the video soooo fucking incorrect in every way about charles has me mistrusting the rest of the stories I cannot verify myself.
25manorpark Well to be fair, most of the list seems to be pretty accurate. The Tony Stark one for example is dead on. Charles seems to be the only listed one that is total shit.
Hank Pym only hit his wife once and it was while he was under huge scrutiny when Ultron became sentient and evil. He ended up feeling horrible about it, and it was a whole story for Hank Pym to grow as a person. I'm not saying that what he did was okay, what I'm saying is that he redeemed himself afterwards and it's not like he's an active wife beater. Also, Hank never thought Ultron would become evil. He was trying to build a good guy. An Avenger. The reason why it's so hard for him to shut down Ultron for good is because he was basically like a son to him in a weird way. He talked to Ultron when he was just an AI program without a body, he made him with his own two hands. Ultron being evil was such a tragic thing for Hank because it's no different than if your son who you bathed, cared for, and nurtured ends up becoming Pablo Escobar. Idk why Marvel keeps abusing Hank. He's such a tremendous character with so much depth and all the writers do to him is treat him like he's the biggest douchebag in the planet.
kyriss12 To me, it just seems like marvel doesn't know how to be creative enough with Hank Pym so they keep recycling the same garbage story over and over again and the fans certainly don't help such a case.
I honestly think Avengers United They Stand was a winning idea at taking Hank Pym's character (even though the actual execution was terrible). Having Hank assemble a team of B to C listers. Considering that Hank is pretty much the most unremarkable original member of Avengers, the idea of him being the leader of a lots of minor characters and proving to the world they are also heroes sounds like a good underdog story.
Xavier also sent 5 16yr olds to there death except 2 who kept each other alive by growing split personality disorder and merging as one, shouted at their teacher for demanding an explanation and said there was no point in saving them and when surprise surprise they/he go(s) on a murderous rampage he tells cyclops just to strait up blow him up then Is rewarded with working legs and not needing the pills
Now you listen hear, the Howling commandos comics, the originals, were really good! They showed back story of one Nick Fury and showed others who were also entertaining, like Dum Dum Dugan and Gabe Jones, among others
he wasn't abusive. he had an outburst due to pim particles and pushed her off him. he never hit her more than once. I'm sick of hearing about this over and over
At the time it happened, it was a big thing. Even one strike was bad enough, and that thing was long associated with what became called his "Yellowjacket personality". Sure, just one hit, but I don't doubt that it would have been harder for the writer or writers to make it systematic. It was indeed mentioned in the comics back then over and over, as if it had been systematically.
He's not?! I've definitely heard in more recent comics that he beat his wife. Now, it could've been from someone who was talking about this event but I don't know. Edit: Okay I looked it up, in the Ultimate Universe he does beat his wife.
for fucks sake. Hank Pym is not a wife beater that was an isolated incident when he was crazy. that has happened to spider-man three times and Mr. fantastic has smacked his wife several times because he felt like it and was in perfectly sound mind but no body calls them wife beaters.
+Creshosk It wasn't that bad of a list but you're right, they got some stuff wrong. For me, they needed to focus more on the simple yet profound things: With Charles Xavier, just remember all the real world issues they try (and in my opinion, horribly fail) to represent with being a mutant in Marvel Comics. When you insert some of those groups into this situation, it usually just becomes silly fun. Now insert some of the groups that align with this pretty well but which Marvel is so *not* going to want to represent with the X-men. I mean we've got a guy who creates a school that is mostly a front for recruiting for his own paramilitary strike force, and one based on being part of "his kind". ¬_¬ Tony Stark, think of all the good even incredibly toned down versions of a lot of his tech could do for the world, but (even if it is because the writers need to keep the setting grounded) Tony won't share. He is so worried about people abusing his creations he forgets that most who would? He isn't stopping them. Maybe they'll steal it, but that isn't my point; the villains (real and fictional) will just use what they have and in most cases, the "bad guys" are way better at doing wrong than regular folk are at protecting themselves. Generally speaking, if you're going to be a mugger, you're not noticeably weaker than the average person, but probably a bit stronger so that with no weapons or even something improvised, you can take your victim's valuables. >.> By now the "average person" in the MU should at least have the option of saving up for a stripped down suit of Iron Man armor for work, play, and protection. Even just a lightly armored power suit that couldn't fly and had no built in weapons would be fun to take for a spin, have industrial uses, and of course would be nice to throw on when confronting a home invader.
+Otaku I want to point out that just because the thing about muggers is pretty much true, there are still a LOT of people who would keep the technology away from the public for the same reasons. I'm not saying they're right in doing so, but they think that way anyway and believe it to be right. It isn't unrealistic that Tony would think that way, especially if he considers himself smarter and more capable than most people.
Technically it was Black Bolt,Tony Stark, Reed Richard, and Dr. Strange. The Illuminati had a vote but Charles Xavier wasn't there for it. Though he wasn't there he did tell the hulk in issue 2 of World War Hulk: X-men that he would have said yes to sending the hulk away while they researched a cure .
Professor X wasn't responsible for sending Hulk to Sakaar. Because he was dealing with The House Of M story line at the time. When Hulk got back to Earth, Hulk found this out and forgave Charles (the only one of the Illuminati that Hulk didn't beat the shit out of) because Charles was in his own personal hell.
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Xaiver wasn't involved in the Hulk part and he was trying to save the first mutant from anti-mutant people. Also, in the civil war Tony was more of a good guy because it supported the government.
Hank wasn't a damned wife beater! Him hitting her was a single isolated incident, because of his mental issues and the stress of the current situation. More, there was a miscommunication between the writer and illustrator where Hank was trying to push his wife away, accidently hitting her instead of what could be seen as a punch in the face. Again though, it was the one and only time her hit her, thus calling him a wife beater is completely false and unfair.
For Reed Richard, it's not really a villainous past since he is always evil and is an alternate reality version of the real Reed Richard Also, The Watcher forced Nick Fury to kill him since the guardian isn't allowed to do anything to stop his eye robber while Fury let himself have all the permition in order to recover that eye
Nick Fury also caused Thor to become unworthy to lift mjolnir by whispering something to him that caused Thor to doubt what he was fighting for during the original sin arc.
Fury had to kill the watcher and locate use his eyeball to locate the other eyeball, because that kind of information in the wrong hands would be devastating to the entire universe. The entire Original Sin plott was the concept of Fury constantly having to do shady things behind "closed door" for the greater good. He had the title: Man on the wall.
That panel where Hank Pym hits the Wasp actually was written as an accident, but other writers reinterpreted it later on, and Hank Pym's image never recovered.
But that was the 50s. Back then women where simple minded over emotional creatures who needed an occassional smack upside the head to keep them in line.
I need to object. Xavier was absent when the vote was made to exile the Hulk into space. I guess you could still count it, 'cause when the Hulk later confronted and asked him what his vote would have been, Xavier admitted that he would have voted along with the others. But technically he didn't do it.
Are we seriously ignoring Cyclops during his time as the Phoenix during AvX? Dude puts the world under his dominion (along with four other X-Men) then goes on to straight-up murder Xavier when he tries to talk him out of it. He basically became the new Magneto!
What about Daredevil? The guy was pretty violent and ark for a long time when it finally came to a head during Shadowland where Matt killed Bullseye, took over the Hand, and conquered a small section of NYC he ruled with an iron fist. This was so rought, the next writer retconed it that Matt was possessed by an actual devil!
Thank you for the lack of puppet :) But quick side note - "Hank Pym created a killer robot only he could stop, which was especially stupid given that he's also responsible for creating Ultron" . Wasn't that killer robot just Ultron? Or did he make another unstoppable killer robot?
I still want to see you do something on how Deadpool used to lock Captain America's blind ex in a booby trapped room full of pointy things for days at a time.
the hank pym "wife beating" incident was actually a bit of an editorial mistake, though it just ended up stuck as it was the most exciting thing to happen to the character in years
Interestingly enough, Professor X did not send Hulk in the space. He was part of the Illuminatti who made that decision, but he wasn't present at that time. Although he tells he would have made the same choice the other members did.
Which continuum? In the past 15 to 20 years they have done more retcon than in most of their existance excluding the early Golden Age. Besides, DC likes to anti-hero allot of villians, and occasionally have heroes have really dark moments to make the good ones stand out and make them not perfect.
You missed something when it came to Nick Fury, in the Original Sin, the other reason he killed Uatu was because he knew Fury killed billions while protecting a dimensional barrier
To be fair on the original sin, nick fury thing, Fury was never trying to protect or save the watcher. He needed to know who stole his other eye, I.e. The worlds greatest source of information, and the watcher wouldn't tell him.
Why are all of these only Marvel? How can you leave out Hal Jordan snapping, murdering all of the Green Lanterns, stealing their rings, and becoming a universe warping villain for straight up years?
I love how nowadays on UA-cam, you have to wait 30 seconds for the shitty ad to die before the video, and then another 30 seconds for the second, in-video ad to be over.
professor x. didn't take part in bulk being shot into space but he said if he did he would have. Hank Pym hit wasp by accident when he was having a identify crisis she got in the way. Now Hulk B. Banner should be all over this list.
the hank pym wife beating thing is more complicated than that. the intention was for him not to intentionally hit the wasp but rather shove her away from him, the artist messed it up.
This video has an error, Charles Xavier was absent when the Illuminati sent Hulk off world. He did agree with the decision after the fact, but not to permanent exile.
One of the most evil character is Peter Parker. When working as a pizzadelivery guy he once delivered a pizza 20 minutes late. That's fucked up.
Wow. Should be free when it's that late.
Ikr
not to mention that he did sick flips all the way there while listening to "Funiculì funiculà"
+Dorkly i thought nick fury was black damn you live action marvel moooovies!!!!!!!!!
Was that before or after the symbiotic suit?
This list was basically:
"People who sent Hulk to space"
only 2 out of 5 really and marvel's Illuminati is pretty much a group of heroes who act like villains and seem to make everything worse without ever learning their lesson.
Nope. 3 out of 5. Professor X, Mr. Fantastic, and Iron Man all voted to send Hulk into space. If you want to go even further, Yellowjacket (Hank Pym) was also part of the Illuminati, so you could say: "4 out of 5 of these people were part of a secret organization that once voted to send the Hulk into space"
wasnt Hulk sent into space by the Skrulls who had invaded and wanted to get rid of him?
DeskieFam yeah I wanted to corect that but i couldn't find the comment.
I thought Professor wasn't present at the meeting to send Hulk into space. He would've voted to do it but he wasn't there.
It's actually pretty funny that scott lang, a convicted fellon, was a nicer ant man than hank pym, a brilliant inventor
In all fairness, Magneto had just stripped the Adamantium from Wolverine's body through his freaking pores! If the Professor was in Wolverine's head at all and felt the pain he felt, I don't blame him for losing his cool.
The end result though... Magneto's evil mixed with the darkness already inside Xavier... Yikes!
Enter Onslaught, the psychic being who kind of psychically "ate" Franklin Richards (and others?) and was then able to use their powers. I think he even had some of Magneto's power in him.
O.P.! 😜
Franklin Richards?
Is that considered their equal by the gods of marvel universe?
You are aware that most of what you detailed about Charles is just wrong. I mean completely fucking wrong, as in you're ignoring context that actually makes him the good guy wrong for clicks. For example... Charles never shot the Hulk into space, in fact he was adamantly against it to the point of rescinding his role in the Illuminati.
***** I don't quite remember that storyline... but given how full of shit they were about every other detail... including the rise of Onslaught for which Xavier didn't absorb the mind of Magneto, he shut it down entirely because he was doing some insane genocidal shit and that leaked into his own subconscious; I'm not at all inclined to believe that he is the bad guy in that scenario. Also the details of that event puts him squarely as the good guy... but either way, what are the issues that detail the context of that particular event?
The idea for Charles was to shut Magnetos mind down, but he did indeed end up absorbing it, or at least parts of it. It wasn't on purpose, though .... It wasn't noticed at first, but was revealed slowly.
RubberyCat Yeah... hence the context of that being unintentional. He didn't want to absorb his mind... he just did it with parts of his mind without realizing it.
Yeah, and using his abilities to help protect the entire ability from a reckless child omega level mutant is definitely a minor wrong for the betterment of the entire world. Starting off the video soooo fucking incorrect in every way about charles has me mistrusting the rest of the stories I cannot verify myself.
25manorpark Well to be fair, most of the list seems to be pretty accurate. The Tony Stark one for example is dead on. Charles seems to be the only listed one that is total shit.
Hey Tony, Where's the Better Looking, Funnier, More Incredible version of you, AKA Your Brother?
He called me a weeb and refused to participate in the video, but he'll be back soon.
Noooooo!!
but why tho?
+Dorkly Please don't. This video was so enjoyable.
You either die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain. Unless your Jason Todd. Then your both, and still effing bad@$$.
Fuckin truth
Yes
Or Mark Millar writes you
Hank Pym only hit his wife once and it was while he was under huge scrutiny when Ultron became sentient and evil. He ended up feeling horrible about it, and it was a whole story for Hank Pym to grow as a person. I'm not saying that what he did was okay, what I'm saying is that he redeemed himself afterwards and it's not like he's an active wife beater.
Also, Hank never thought Ultron would become evil. He was trying to build a good guy. An Avenger. The reason why it's so hard for him to shut down Ultron for good is because he was basically like a son to him in a weird way. He talked to Ultron when he was just an AI program without a body, he made him with his own two hands.
Ultron being evil was such a tragic thing for Hank because it's no different than if your son who you bathed, cared for, and nurtured ends up becoming Pablo Escobar.
Idk why Marvel keeps abusing Hank. He's such a tremendous character with so much depth and all the writers do to him is treat him like he's the biggest douchebag in the planet.
Every one seems to love carrying-on about tthe one time hank pym hit his wife, but never mention the crap reed richards used to do bvack in the50's.
kyriss12
To me, it just seems like marvel doesn't know how to be creative enough with Hank Pym so they keep recycling the same garbage story over and over again and the fans certainly don't help such a case.
so basically H3H3's mom is Ant-Man? H3h3 did become Pablo Escobar.
I honestly think Avengers United They Stand was a winning idea at taking Hank Pym's character (even though the actual execution was terrible). Having Hank assemble a team of B to C listers.
Considering that Hank is pretty much the most unremarkable original member of Avengers, the idea of him being the leader of a lots of minor characters and proving to the world they are also heroes sounds like a good underdog story.
@@spikemasterb2521 how so?
Xavier also sent 5 16yr olds to there death except 2 who kept each other alive by growing split personality disorder and merging as one, shouted at their teacher for demanding an explanation and said there was no point in saving them and when surprise surprise they/he go(s) on a murderous rampage he tells cyclops just to strait up blow him up then Is rewarded with working legs and not needing the pills
I read this at age 7
Now you listen hear, the Howling commandos comics, the originals, were really good! They showed back story of one Nick Fury and showed others who were also entertaining, like Dum Dum Dugan and Gabe Jones, among others
he wasn't abusive. he had an outburst due to pim particles and pushed her off him. he never hit her more than once. I'm sick of hearing about this over and over
At the time it happened, it was a big thing. Even one strike was bad enough, and that thing was long associated with what became called his "Yellowjacket personality". Sure, just one hit, but I don't doubt that it would have been harder for the writer or writers to make it systematic. It was indeed mentioned in the comics back then over and over, as if it had been systematically.
He's not?! I've definitely heard in more recent comics that he beat his wife. Now, it could've been from someone who was talking about this event but I don't know.
Edit: Okay I looked it up, in the Ultimate Universe he does beat his wife.
Metalloid
Yup, he's a really nasty piece of work in the Ultimates.
to be fair, everyone in the ultimate universe is a p.o.s., with the exception of both Spidermen
he did not hit her! he did not.
oh hi mark
for fucks sake. Hank Pym is not a wife beater that was an isolated incident when he was crazy. that has happened to spider-man three times and Mr. fantastic has smacked his wife several times because he felt like it and was in perfectly sound mind but no body calls them wife beaters.
woah, and people think that Anime is full of crap. Check this OUT!
u know he sprayed his wife with bug spray when she was in her fly form right?
Dragon97king that was ultimate universe this was earth 616.
+Creshosk
It wasn't that bad of a list but you're right, they got some stuff wrong. For me, they needed to focus more on the simple yet profound things:
With Charles Xavier, just remember all the real world issues they try (and in my opinion, horribly fail) to represent with being a mutant in Marvel Comics. When you insert some of those groups into this situation, it usually just becomes silly fun. Now insert some of the groups that align with this pretty well but which Marvel is so *not* going to want to represent with the X-men. I mean we've got a guy who creates a school that is mostly a front for recruiting for his own paramilitary strike force, and one based on being part of "his kind". ¬_¬
Tony Stark, think of all the good even incredibly toned down versions of a lot of his tech could do for the world, but (even if it is because the writers need to keep the setting grounded) Tony won't share. He is so worried about people abusing his creations he forgets that most who would? He isn't stopping them. Maybe they'll steal it, but that isn't my point; the villains (real and fictional) will just use what they have and in most cases, the "bad guys" are way better at doing wrong than regular folk are at protecting themselves. Generally speaking, if you're going to be a mugger, you're not noticeably weaker than the average person, but probably a bit stronger so that with no weapons or even something improvised, you can take your victim's valuables. >.> By now the "average person" in the MU should at least have the option of saving up for a stripped down suit of Iron Man armor for work, play, and protection. Even just a lightly armored power suit that couldn't fly and had no built in weapons would be fun to take for a spin, have industrial uses, and of course would be nice to throw on when confronting a home invader.
+Otaku I want to point out that just because the thing about muggers is pretty much true, there are still a LOT of people who would keep the technology away from the public for the same reasons. I'm not saying they're right in doing so, but they think that way anyway and believe it to be right. It isn't unrealistic that Tony would think that way, especially if he considers himself smarter and more capable than most people.
You should make a video about how messed up and convoluted the X-Men timeline is
Technically it was Black Bolt,Tony Stark, Reed Richard, and Dr. Strange. The Illuminati had a vote but Charles Xavier wasn't there for it. Though he wasn't there he did tell the hulk in issue 2 of World War Hulk: X-men that he would have said yes to sending the hulk away while they researched a cure .
Xavier had NO part in the hulk being shot into space
Professor X wasn't responsible for sending Hulk to Sakaar. Because he was dealing with The House Of M story line at the time. When Hulk got back to Earth, Hulk found this out and forgave Charles (the only one of the Illuminati that Hulk didn't beat the shit out of) because Charles was in his own personal hell.
Professor X did not send the Hulk into space. He abstained from voting on sending him into space by not attending the meeting.
"and he's already down one eyeball!"
goddamn hilarious XD
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Xaiver wasn't involved in the Hulk part and he was trying to save the first mutant from anti-mutant people. Also, in the civil war Tony was more of a good guy because it supported the government.
supporting the government isn't always the good thing to do , just look at the German Nationalist Party aka Nazi's.
supporting the government isn't always the good thing to do , just look at the German Nationalist Party aka Nazi's.
I would argue that Xavier sending Hope with Cable into the time stream was the best way to protect her and mutant kind
ultimate was no joke, I heard The Thing Smashed DR. DOOM's Head with one hand.. raw..
Hank wasn't a damned wife beater! Him hitting her was a single isolated incident, because of his mental issues and the stress of the current situation. More, there was a miscommunication between the writer and illustrator where Hank was trying to push his wife away, accidently hitting her instead of what could be seen as a punch in the face. Again though, it was the one and only time her hit her, thus calling him a wife beater is completely false and unfair.
haha I'm so glad the beard is coming back
I've been watching Mob Psycho 100 too, I actually look forward to Mondays now
For Reed Richard, it's not really a villainous past since he is always evil and is an alternate reality version of the real Reed Richard
Also, The Watcher forced Nick Fury to kill him since the guardian isn't allowed to do anything to stop his eye robber while Fury let himself have all the permition in order to recover that eye
Nick Fury also caused Thor to become unworthy to lift mjolnir by whispering something to him that caused Thor to doubt what he was fighting for during the original sin arc.
good content ,bringing a nice personality along thought out top 10s
Fury had to kill the watcher and locate use his eyeball to locate the other eyeball, because that kind of information in the wrong hands would be devastating to the entire universe. The entire Original Sin plott was the concept of Fury constantly having to do shady things behind "closed door" for the greater good. He had the title: Man on the wall.
Oh joy! The beard's going to return!
That panel where Hank Pym hits the Wasp actually was written as an accident, but other writers reinterpreted it later on, and Hank Pym's image never recovered.
Dorkly made so much money he's now living in a spaceship
Awesome view XD
He's from the same planet as my parents are aliens.
Tony with a beard is back, the balance is back to the universe.
Yay, the puppet is gone, glory day!!!
Awesome Video 👍
Still waiting for the next episode of "Today in Pokemon Rusty"
4:12. That seems a little unfair to call him that when he only ever hit Janet once ever while suffering from a mental breakdown.
But that was the 50s. Back then women where simple minded over emotional creatures who needed an occassional smack upside the head to keep them in line.
How about he should've never hit her at all....?
I need to object. Xavier was absent when the vote was made to exile the Hulk into space. I guess you could still count it, 'cause when the Hulk later confronted and asked him what his vote would have been, Xavier admitted that he would have voted along with the others. But technically he didn't do it.
Nice video! Where can i get that nice wolfenstein pin?
4:19 in the top left is that shaggy?
Hey tony, what do think of this new youtube comment's update on mobile?
Only crunchy roll I know of is the one that comes out the ass after you eat nothing but peanuts.
you sound like you speak from experience.
King Harkinian Maybe so maybe so...
Pretty much the same thing as what hes talking about.
No puppets? Thumbs up.
Puppets? Thumbs down.
Simple as that.
The hotel I'm staying in has sh*t internet and I'm watching at 144p. Dorkly help
Call the front desk and tell them you don't have enough Ps
I have to live with that, deal with it.
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3:57 So Ant-Man is actually Syndrome from the Incredibles?
Well, thanks to the magic of New-Writer-Retconning, ALL of your favorite heroes are jerks! :D
Nicely done
I love you, Dorkly
What’s that sitar music playing in the background?
Mob Psycho 100 is the best.
truuu
Already gave it a shot when I watched this video
word son
last episode was the shit!
The art style is too ugly for me to watch it lol
Are we seriously ignoring Cyclops during his time as the Phoenix during AvX? Dude puts the world under his dominion (along with four other X-Men) then goes on to straight-up murder Xavier when he tries to talk him out of it. He basically became the new Magneto!
Are those the stairs from the Brady Bunch in your background?
og nick fury, saving earth with "get in line or get crushed by" attitude
Daredevil a.k.a Matt Murdock from the Man with out fear could make this list. He killed a person in that origin in his youth
You rock Bro!
What about Daredevil? The guy was pretty violent and ark for a long time when it finally came to a head during Shadowland where Matt killed Bullseye, took over the Hand, and conquered a small section of NYC he ruled with an iron fist. This was so rought, the next writer retconed it that Matt was possessed by an actual devil!
Thank You for making this list.
Thank you for the lack of puppet :)
But quick side note - "Hank Pym created a killer robot only he could stop, which was especially stupid given that he's also responsible for creating Ultron" . Wasn't that killer robot just Ultron? Or did he make another unstoppable killer robot?
Just noticed, Yaii the beard is back, love the beard
I still want to see you do something on how Deadpool used to lock Captain America's blind ex in a booby trapped room full of pointy things for days at a time.
Way better without the hand puppet!
agreed
And the beard
Aye that thing needs to be destroyed.
I think someone here has automatonophobia.
When I saw that puppet the first time I just thought kill it with fire.
Xavier wasn't present when Hulk was exiled. But he confessed to Hulk that if he was, he would have voted for exile.
Xavier did not shoot the Hulk into space, cause he was missing at the time. But he admitted he would vote Yes if he was there.
the hank pym "wife beating" incident was actually a bit of an editorial mistake, though it just ended up stuck as it was the most exciting thing to happen to the character in years
Interestingly enough, Professor X did not send Hulk in the space. He was part of the Illuminatti who made that decision, but he wasn't present at that time. Although he tells he would have made the same choice the other members did.
just A heads up, he's, uh... not kidding about the illuminati part. xP
The Hank Pim segment left out a lot of important details with his actions and this episode straight up lies about some things.
Agreed. Mob Psycho 100 is a great series. I've read the manga and I can't wait to see the upcoming episodes in full colour.
What is the name of the anime @ 7:51
Shokugeki no Soma, it is a cooking anime so don't expect it look like that scene.
Last time I was this early I could think of a non generic I'm here early comment
Can you guys do this video with DC comics?
Lets sum it up. Everyone every single one no exceptions. I knoe how dark dc is so everyone.
Which continuum? In the past 15 to 20 years they have done more retcon than in most of their existance excluding the early Golden Age.
Besides, DC likes to anti-hero allot of villians, and occasionally have heroes have really dark moments to make the good ones stand out and make them not perfect.
even arm fall of boy?
Arceus Lord of Creation batman, a lot
Superman in injustice
Hal Jordan as Parallax
Aquaman and Wonder Woman in Flashpoint
they are uploading alot more recenly which is nice
I'm surprised they didn't mention Tony Stark's long-term struggle with alcoholism.
You missed something when it came to Nick Fury, in the Original Sin, the other reason he killed Uatu was because he knew Fury killed billions while protecting a dimensional barrier
To be fair on the original sin, nick fury thing, Fury was never trying to protect or save the watcher. He needed to know who stole his other eye, I.e. The worlds greatest source of information, and the watcher wouldn't tell him.
Yay! Tony's beard is back!
For the record, Prof-X wasn't part of the decision to shoot Hulk to another planet. He had nothing to do with Planet Hulk.
Groot was a pirate king. Also, Bring this back.
Why are all of these only Marvel? How can you leave out Hal Jordan snapping, murdering all of the Green Lanterns, stealing their rings, and becoming a universe warping villain for straight up years?
Because the point of the video was literally "5 Marvel Characters With Seriously Villainous Pasts"
Huh, I could've sworn it just said "Comic book characters" earlier. Perhaps I just misread it earlier
And if I remember right, it was revealed that Parallax possessed him throughout that run, so it wasn't necessarily of free will.
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Well Parallax wasn't exactly introduced until the end of that run as an explanation
Evan Gray Exactly. But he was still there.
It's official; in both the comic and the movie, Civil War Stark is a horrible person
It's a miracle that MARVEL is still alive after these huge mistakes.
Denim Jacket? Get that shit outta here.
I can't I accidentally sewed it to my body help
did you doodle a beard on your face beard with a sharpie
That shit is almost worse than Jeggings!
don't judge him, he might be Canadian. they don't know any better
TJ L Poor Canadians...
Props for cutting out that freaking puppet for this video.
As a great Dovah said: what is better, to be born good or to overcome great evil
original sin is absolutely amazing
Nobody is perfect .
I am nobody .
There for i am prefect.
Professor didn't send Hulk in space. He would've voted for it but he didn't
the ultimates version of Hank Pym tried to kill his wife with bug spray after beating her savagely
plz get rusty out of jail :( we need him
Actually, Xavier wasn’t at the meeting to send Hulk into space.
Man comics are complicated...but love the beard man!
Xavier was not around when they illuminati decided to shoot the Hulk into space. he was in hiding after the whole deadly genesis arc.
All the knives in the world couldn’t hope to compete with the edge of 1st Nick Fury’s story
I was wondering why Tony's face looked weird. It's only when he drew attention to it that I realized his beard was drawn on
yah no puppet
I love how nowadays on UA-cam, you have to wait 30 seconds for the shitty ad to die before the video, and then another 30 seconds for the second, in-video ad to be over.
I love you Onslaught.
any one knows the name of that last anime at 8:03 ?????
professor x. didn't take part in bulk being shot into space but he said if he did he would have. Hank Pym hit wasp by accident when he was having a identify crisis she got in the way. Now Hulk B. Banner should be all over this list.
the hank pym wife beating thing is more complicated than that. the intention was for him not to intentionally hit the wasp but rather shove her away from him, the artist messed it up.
This video has an error, Charles Xavier was absent when the Illuminati sent Hulk off world. He did agree with the decision after the fact, but not to permanent exile.