Used a Cordura backpack almost daily for more than 10 years. No special care. PU coating disintegrated, plastic buckles broke and zippers started to fail but the part of the fabric that touched the ground was just slightly worn.
First of all, thank you for creating this torture test video. As what the previous comment had said, I'm also impressed at how close the 1000D nylon held up against Cordura 1000D (of course, Cordura still takes the crown). I own two utility pouches and a cellphone pouch in 1000D nylon for Every Day Carry (I pack a mini torchlight, folding knife, earphone, pollution mask, and two cellphones). Since I stay in the city most of the time, rarely venture into the jungle, and not a serving member of the military/law enforcement, I personally believe they're sufficient enough for me. Nonetheless, if I could chuck a couple more extra Dollars in, I'd definitely get something made in Cordura 1000D!
Great test. That was really interesting to see how they performed differently. Seems like the Cordura is the more durable material. But looking at the roman candle test it looked like it might also be a little more susceptible to flame/spark/heat damage. Very interesting to see. I'm alway interest in the durability aspect of gear for my INCH pack system.
Thanks, this was really informative! I'm not sure I agree with the Roman Candle test conclusion. The Nylon bag didn't break open until the 5th explosion, and then it busted wide open. The Cordura bag broke open with the 2nd explosion (maybe 1st, I can't tell for sure), but the break wasn't quite as large. The Nylon absorbed more of the firework explosions completely contained, and the Cordura probably endured more of the subsequent, partly-contained explosions. Because of that difference, the test seems inconclusive, and probably skewed if favor of Nylon. I'd also be curious to see a tear test. Another site I was looking at found, surprisingly, that Nylon held up better to tears than Cordura (it required more force to rip). The two most common bag failures are probably tearing and abrasion (I hope my bag is never shot, and I hope no one sets off explosions inside it!), and it seems like these two materials might each be better at one and worse at the other.
Dude! Loved the test! Cant believe there was a difference in stopping the 22 round. I think pretty much any nylon would melt with the roman candle. Awesome unique thest though! Thanks for the end card placement too!
LOL! I was really surprised by the .22 round too! Yeah, I didn't expect either to hold up to the roman candle, but it seemed like a fun test (you can hear my daughter laughing in the background, so it was fun for us). The end card is the _least_ I can do!
I was surprised either for about .22 calibre turture forces.! Although why Cordura was recommended my military because of that, and they had a respected D numbers that nylon were capable to be a partial bullet resistant substitute, and kindly visit the google about nylon and Cordura
Pretty severe tests, but in the real world either one would work for edc. Real world though would be moisture resistant test as that’s what 99% of users would be concerned with.
+Will Tye dude i have a maxpedition condor, 5.11 rush and 1000d cordura army bag from poland the practical for me is the 5.11 rush the more solid is the maxpedition 5.11 rush straps are confortabvle but i dont like the V shape because not very good for one shouder quick carring and the stiching blows right in that place ( i try to repair all the time with lighter ) no good design that straps! and cant remove the chest strapsssssss (WTF) im not running all the time for use them... and the end of the bag dont have padding like the maxpedition! the cordura its ok, but attracts dust and dirt too muchhh for the rain not good also its like cotton if a go back? i go instead for a maxpedition falcon 1000d from maxpedition seems very tick (the 5.11 and cordura looks like 500d and not 1000d) just my opinion
I love this. But there are so many variables with Nylon and Cordura. They have anywhere from 3/4oz to 2oz coating on the back. It can be top coated with DWR or FR. Those all affect the durability. There's also domestic non-Cordura 1000D for military. It's far superior to imported nylon. To add to the mix, there are also domestic and overseas official Cordura mills. They have different characteristics too. Do you happen to know where that non-cordura bag was made? And how many layers of 1000d were used in both? Thanks for taking the time to post this. I was surprised at the .22 round even if that Cordura bag did have an extra layer of rip-stop, that's impressive. I think I'll demo me shooting one of my tool belts. Seems like a good ad.
so one thing your video answered me that was not in its scope, was that IF YOU CAN STAPLE through it that easy THAN a snake fang WILL puncture it thru! now what to make of that when people sell us snake protective gear made of Cordura 1000D !?!?
LOL, Tom! I don't know if you could tell, but that was her laughing in the background during the roman candle test! She was _supposed_ to be holding the backup camera... well, good thing nothing went wrong with the main camera, because she was jumping around all over the place and laughing! Yeah, the .22 not penetrating *had* to be a fluke, but pretty neat, though!
Radim Radim bottom of backpack should be 1000d since it holds most of the weight. But rest 500d is gonna be fine Although a backpack with 1000d all around would be awesome Check out vanquest brand. Its top 1 for this kinda stuff
1000D is overkill for anything but the most brutal usage. I have a 1000D climbing pack I bought in the '70s. It did a number of tough alpine seasons before being demoted to a day-pack. I've used it on literally 1000s of day-hikes and it's still as good as new, except the coating is worn. Unless you need your pack to last for over 40 years, 500D is fine.
I would. I much rather get a top notch bag and use it for decades then to but a new one every year. I've been rocking my backpack for 8 years now. Love it.
Used a Cordura backpack almost daily for more than 10 years. No special care. PU coating disintegrated, plastic buckles broke and zippers started to fail but the part of the fabric that touched the ground was just slightly worn.
Both failed the staple gun resist test.
First of all, thank you for creating this torture test video. As what the previous comment had said, I'm also impressed at how close the 1000D nylon held up against Cordura 1000D (of course, Cordura still takes the crown).
I own two utility pouches and a cellphone pouch in 1000D nylon for Every Day Carry (I pack a mini torchlight, folding knife, earphone, pollution mask, and two cellphones).
Since I stay in the city most of the time, rarely venture into the jungle, and not a serving member of the military/law enforcement, I personally believe they're sufficient enough for me.
Nonetheless, if I could chuck a couple more extra Dollars in, I'd definitely get something made in Cordura 1000D!
Great test. That was really interesting to see how they performed differently. Seems like the Cordura is the more durable material. But looking at the roman candle test it looked like it might also be a little more susceptible to flame/spark/heat damage. Very interesting to see. I'm alway interest in the durability aspect of gear for my INCH pack system.
Thanks, this was really informative!
I'm not sure I agree with the Roman Candle test conclusion. The Nylon bag didn't break open until the 5th explosion, and then it busted wide open. The Cordura bag broke open with the 2nd explosion (maybe 1st, I can't tell for sure), but the break wasn't quite as large. The Nylon absorbed more of the firework explosions completely contained, and the Cordura probably endured more of the subsequent, partly-contained explosions. Because of that difference, the test seems inconclusive, and probably skewed if favor of Nylon.
I'd also be curious to see a tear test. Another site I was looking at found, surprisingly, that Nylon held up better to tears than Cordura (it required more force to rip). The two most common bag failures are probably tearing and abrasion (I hope my bag is never shot, and I hope no one sets off explosions inside it!), and it seems like these two materials might each be better at one and worse at the other.
Dude! Loved the test! Cant believe there was a difference in stopping the 22 round. I think pretty much any nylon would melt with the roman candle. Awesome unique thest though! Thanks for the end card placement too!
LOL! I was really surprised by the .22 round too! Yeah, I didn't expect either to hold up to the roman candle, but it seemed like a fun test (you can hear my daughter laughing in the background, so it was fun for us).
The end card is the _least_ I can do!
I was surprised either for about .22 calibre turture forces.! Although why Cordura was recommended my military because of that, and they had a respected D numbers that nylon were capable to be a partial bullet resistant substitute, and kindly visit the google about nylon and Cordura
that friction noise is so satisfying )))
Dude that was awesome! Great job bro!
Thanks Brother! It was fun!
Pretty good test, the nylon held up better than I thought.
Thanks, trees! I was actually really surprised by the performance of both, but the Cordura was definitely the better product!
I agree with the dog.
LOL! Yeah, she was pretty upset! ~...and probably my neighbors felt the same way!
Nice compare 🔥
Omg the fireworks 😂 hilarious
Great vid! Liked this one a ton
Thanks, hancock brewer !
Pretty severe tests, but in the real world either one would work for edc. Real world though would be moisture resistant test as that’s what 99% of users would be concerned with.
btw wery nice torture test ! i subscribed :)
Great torture test. Im shocked at the results from the 22. Fantastic!
Thanks, Brother! I really couldn't believe it! We had a lot of fun with this one!
in real life no big diference, get the cheaper one
+Will Tye thats right but IMHO i prefer spend less and change more
+Will Tye dude i have a maxpedition condor, 5.11 rush and 1000d cordura army bag from poland
the practical for me is the 5.11 rush
the more solid is the maxpedition
5.11 rush straps are confortabvle but i dont like the V shape because not very good for one shouder quick carring and the stiching blows right in that place ( i try to repair all the time with lighter ) no good design that straps! and cant remove the chest strapsssssss (WTF) im not running all the time for use them...
and the end of the bag dont have padding like the maxpedition!
the cordura its ok, but attracts dust and dirt too muchhh
for the rain not good also its like cotton
if a go back? i go instead for a maxpedition falcon
1000d from maxpedition seems very tick (the 5.11 and cordura looks like 500d and not 1000d) just my opinion
@@losteden its matter after years of using, in backpacks, bags
I love this. But there are so many variables with Nylon and Cordura. They have anywhere from 3/4oz to 2oz coating on the back. It can be top coated with DWR or FR. Those all affect the durability. There's also domestic non-Cordura 1000D for military. It's far superior to imported nylon. To add to the mix, there are also domestic and overseas official Cordura mills. They have different characteristics too. Do you happen to know where that non-cordura bag was made? And how many layers of 1000d were used in both? Thanks for taking the time to post this. I was surprised at the .22 round even if that Cordura bag did have an extra layer of rip-stop, that's impressive. I think I'll demo me shooting one of my tool belts. Seems like a good ad.
so one thing your video answered me that was not in its scope, was that IF YOU CAN STAPLE through it that easy THAN a snake fang WILL puncture it thru! now what to make of that when people sell us snake protective gear made of Cordura 1000D !?!?
Antonio E Loureiro maybe its thicker, or multiple layers
Good video. Do you think cordura 500 its better than 1000D normal nylon?
Good question! Would love to see more tests about these topics.
Great vid.
Thanks Greg!
Great job!
Thanks, SkinnyMedic !
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Poor little Cordura and Nylon.
i want a bag like that :( sad to see it ruined
Amazing job. Thank you/
silenced roman candle lol wow stopped a 22 wow nice test alo say hey to miss alo
LOL, Tom! I don't know if you could tell, but that was her laughing in the background during the roman candle test! She was _supposed_ to be holding the backup camera... well, good thing nothing went wrong with the main camera, because she was jumping around all over the place and laughing!
Yeah, the .22 not penetrating *had* to be a fluke, but pretty neat, though!
Hope you are doing good Tom!
If i get shor while wearing my cordura vest, lets hope i have the same fluke
Great torture test brother !!
Thanks, Gun Enthusiast ! It was a lot of fun!
Hi, thx for this video. What is better? Cordura 1000D or 500D for backpack?
Radim Radim bottom of backpack should be 1000d since it holds most of the weight. But rest 500d is gonna be fine
Although a backpack with 1000d all around would be awesome
Check out vanquest brand. Its top 1 for this kinda stuff
1000D is overkill for anything but the most brutal usage. I have a 1000D climbing pack I bought in the '70s. It did a number of tough alpine seasons before being demoted to a day-pack. I've used it on literally 1000s of day-hikes and it's still as good as new, except the coating is worn. Unless you need your pack to last for over 40 years, 500D is fine.
Is this Vanquest marketing? I’ve seen multiple video tests done the same way with the same wire brush on the same packs? Weird marketing strategy 🧐
Guess what brand the other pocket organiser is.
HUAHAHAHAHA
Problem is. Why you can stapler it so easy? Snacc bites will get through as well
who wants to use the same bag forever , get a cheap one and change every year ,lol
I would. I much rather get a top notch bag and use it for decades then to but a new one every year.
I've been rocking my backpack for 8 years now. Love it.