Mac OS X Sorbet Leopard - Installation & Demo

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 259

  • @MichaelMJD
    @MichaelMJD  Рік тому +17

    For those interested in the Shuriken mod that I mentioned: ua-cam.com/video/QZX5Fmw51uo/v-deo.html

  • @megatronskneecap
    @megatronskneecap Рік тому +150

    The G4 was such a cool but weird era of Apple (2002-2006). I really liked the clean white vibe Jony Ive was going for but the screen ratios were really really weird. So much so that I remember some websites used to actually redirect you to a Macbook-specific website just so it would work with screen ratios compared to PC monitors. Sorbet Leopard brought life back into an OG clamshell that was running Jaguar so props.

    • @hazridge
      @hazridge Рік тому +23

      Wasn't 4:3 the industry standard at the time though?

    • @ImmortalChanger
      @ImmortalChanger Рік тому +6

      @@hazridge I'm pretty sure it was, I have some laptops from that era, and even older, and they all seem to have a 4:3 aspect ratio (I haven't been able to verify every one of them though)

    • @megatronskneecap
      @megatronskneecap Рік тому +12

      @@hazridge4:3 was for a while, but when LCD technology was main streamed by LG back in 1998 it instantly was switched to 16:9. Apple stuck with some weird 4:8 resolution for another couple of years.

    • @megatronskneecap
      @megatronskneecap Рік тому +2

      @@hazridge Epson, LG and Casio helped mainstream LCD's and Espon were the first folks to introduce 16:9 - This was back when LG stood for Lucky Goldstar instead of Life's Good mind you.

    • @megatronskneecap
      @megatronskneecap Рік тому +2

      @@comedicsketches Myspace and HP used to redirect you to media width specific websites for 4:3 Mac's.

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber Рік тому +200

    The MJD channel is as good as sorbet.

  • @stevenpike7857
    @stevenpike7857 Рік тому +6

    I really liked the Skeuomorphism style. Especially the notification bars w/ that blue and white barber shop pattern and the "gel" look.

  • @synchro505
    @synchro505 Рік тому +19

    This is awesome. Who would have guessed that vintage computing would be this cool. Thanks for posting this.

    • @bradallen8909
      @bradallen8909 Рік тому +2

      This is absolutely NOT "vintage" computing.

  • @Match451
    @Match451 Рік тому +65

    I'd love to see a video bench marking and comparing the performance of Sorbet Leopard to regular leopard, and how the different modifications like the new theme and disabling indexing or shadows affect performance.

    • @Reziac
      @Reziac Рік тому

      I dunno, but it looks a lot slicker than 9.2 on my old G4. (Tho it got much better after I gave it a full GB of RAM ... off the shelf PC RAM.)

    • @HairyPixels
      @HairyPixels Рік тому +1

      Wow this is the geekiest thing I've ever heard. Good work.

  • @TheOriginalCollectorA1303
    @TheOriginalCollectorA1303 Рік тому +25

    10.5.9 really does help out on PowerPC machines, I’m still using stock Leopard on my PowerBook and it works well. I’m sure though that it would be even faster with this! Also didn’t know that a project existed for Tiger as well. Tiger is already a pretty solid OS, so anything to improve on it will make it that much better!

  • @K9arcade
    @K9arcade Рік тому +9

    I've never been into apple but I have been fascinated with the PPC stuff since I love 2000s tech and wondered about toying with the apple side of things. especially since it might be handy to have a machine available for random testing when I need. I'm always for things like this that improve performance on older machines :)

  • @barcigian
    @barcigian Рік тому +6

    This G4 12" was my very first laptop ever. The only thing I regret the most was selling it to buy a Windows PC (I HAD to do that due to software limitations I had back in the day).... Nice to see that is people still keeping it alive, cuz was a great machine!

    • @rallokkcaz
      @rallokkcaz Рік тому

      Same! Also nice profile picture!

  • @ruffy45
    @ruffy45 Рік тому +2

    I already knew about the project, but seeing Michael introducing me is incredibly interesting and satisfying.

  • @NathanDarkson984
    @NathanDarkson984 Рік тому +31

    As a Flash animator, I am upset that you called Adobe Flash Player "Filezilla" :((
    Jokes aside, I do get the confusion since both logos look the same far away. Other than that, it's amazing to know that there's still a community out there that holds on to the old Macs of yesterdecades.

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 Рік тому +1

      Apple loves throwning older hardware users under the bus. Lol

  • @wertywerrtyson5529
    @wertywerrtyson5529 Рік тому +10

    I recently got a Snow Leopard disc for a 2009 mac. Still a very beautiful OS.

    • @RoastBeefSandwich
      @RoastBeefSandwich Рік тому +3

      Snow Leopard was Apple's Abbey Road. In my opinion they've been spinning their wheels since on the software front.

  • @davidmolin8944
    @davidmolin8944 Рік тому +18

    Actually really cool video. Planning on getting some of the features for 10.5.8 but will probably not install the full os as I prefer the current ui over the high sierra one(also had a really bad time with high sierra with my old 2010 MacBook Pro)

  • @jdryyz
    @jdryyz Рік тому +4

    Sorbet looks really snappy for running on an iBook G4. Might really be nice on an old G5 I have. If I can only solve my power supply problem.

  • @ryderrepairs
    @ryderrepairs Рік тому +4

    Sweet Vid Michael, i was actually just looking at sorbet for my 1.46 Ghz iBook :)

  • @mr_pretzel_48
    @mr_pretzel_48 Рік тому +1

    i never thought that michael would do apple software overviews or demos

  • @rickkarrer8370
    @rickkarrer8370 Рік тому

    You're totally using my custom mock box art for the thumbnail. That's awesome, glad you liked it!

    • @steb95-e3s
      @steb95-e3s 26 днів тому

      Why he doesn't heart this

  • @anidnmeno
    @anidnmeno Рік тому +1

    NO WAY! I just installed Sorbet Lepoard on my powerbook G4 yesterday!

  • @PascalBrax
    @PascalBrax Рік тому +6

    getting rid of the old Aqua theme was a sin.

  • @danielktdoranie
    @danielktdoranie Рік тому +20

    I would add, you really want to upgrade your hard disk to a solid state IDE drive… to get way better performance.
    However, upgrading the hard disk in an iBook G4 is PAINFULLY DIFFICULT! Easier on the PowerBook G4

    • @lvl90dru1d
      @lvl90dru1d Рік тому

      yes it really is, i broke my g3 in process of removing hard drive

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices Рік тому

      Unfortunately the hard drive in my iBook G4 is dying. I’ll be buying an SSD for it to make sure I never have to open it again(or at least for a while) I already made a backup so it’ll be easy to upgrade.

    • @danielktdoranie
      @danielktdoranie Рік тому

      @@EvilTurkeySlices good luck! Check out the iFixit guide and BE VERY CAREFUL at step 29. The connectors for the cables on the logic board are brittle and can literally pop right off. (It happened to me!) those connectors could be soldered down again and of course one could just solder the wires to the board but man what a PITA the entire operation is.
      My good friend owns an auto crash repair business, I gave him my other iBook to see what he could do with the scratches on the plastic… so now mine looks NEW but I need to put an SSD in it too.
      Pray for me bro :-)
      Oh, I will say you can FireWire and USB boot IIRC from the iBook and PowerBook G3/G4… might be easier to just image an external SSD with whatever OS (MorphOS, Leopard, Sorbet, Debian SID, whatever) and then book from that.

    • @Reziac
      @Reziac Рік тому

      Horrible slow Quantum HDD came in my G4, you could practically hear every read-write like an MFM drive. Found an IDE SSD for it and what a difference. Probably any modern drive would help, really.

  • @somewhereintheheavens
    @somewhereintheheavens Рік тому +4

    love the mac os stuff, would love to see more!

  • @Eeveewashere
    @Eeveewashere Рік тому +2

    Now I'm wanting the Mac OS Grey Poupon special version.

    • @Margen67
      @Margen67 Рік тому +1

      Eevee needs HUGS

    • @Eeveewashere
      @Eeveewashere Рік тому +1

      ​@@Margen67 Thank you. My co-worker loves Pokemon Go. Best wishes to you.

  • @tonybardalen
    @tonybardalen Рік тому +3

    Let's go thrifting! No wait... wrong channel. The music made me doubt if I had opened a hidden tab somewhere. Nice vid! 😊 Cool that you can breathe some life into old Macs!

  • @zilog1
    @zilog1 Рік тому

    I love how the ice cream scoop on the cover look slike the BSD demon logo. nice

  • @polrogi
    @polrogi Рік тому

    This guy's voice is just so relaxing,, I love it.

  • @MePeterNicholls
    @MePeterNicholls Рік тому +1

    Ooooo. My G4 eMac needs this

  • @boogiehasfun
    @boogiehasfun Рік тому +1

    Linode has sponsored you more than i can count. i guess they like you :D

  • @AlexanderSiracusa
    @AlexanderSiracusa Рік тому

    14:06 All I could think about were the huh duh six hundgos by ol' mate senny on the freakish ears on a stand while the background music played.

  • @s6edge7
    @s6edge7 Рік тому +2

    I got a EMAC laying around . I will try it

    • @s6edge7
      @s6edge7 Рік тому +1

      Bruh why the bots trying to scam me

  • @jeanpepin5869
    @jeanpepin5869 Рік тому +1

    A modern OS should be object oriented enough that windows don't stack on top of each other and size automatically adjusts to content but in 1985 the Amiga Workbench did that, it still didn't give the news and the temperature but he could have done it.

  • @TheNewArtSchool
    @TheNewArtSchool Рік тому +1

    Great video! So many memories with my G5!

  • @jrdavis1992
    @jrdavis1992 9 місяців тому

    I was today years old when I found out the following:
    When using a PC keyboard on a Mac,
    the WINDOWS button is Command, or as I call it, Clover (because the Command symbol on a Mac keyboard looks somewhat like a four-leaf clover,)
    the ALT key is the same as Option,
    and the Backspace key does the same as a Mac keyboard's 'delete' key.

  • @Holdenwhite17
    @Holdenwhite17 Рік тому +2

    I love all these videos. Keep it up!

  • @CubeAtlantic
    @CubeAtlantic Рік тому

    That Mac OS looks so unique lookin' & beautiful honestly. ✅

  • @kbhasi
    @kbhasi Рік тому +1

    6:01 🤣🤣🤣
    You accidentally saying "High Leopard" reminds me of a photo someone made of "macOS High Mojave" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @RetroGamerOG_
    @RetroGamerOG_ Рік тому

    I saw the title and I was like “what is this?” Anyway it’s cool that you brought on a mac on here because it’s been a while cool video!

  • @DJSekuHusky
    @DJSekuHusky Рік тому

    Thanks for uploading this!
    Can't wait to try it on my 15" PowerBook G4 1.5GHz.

  • @ipodsandmacs
    @ipodsandmacs Рік тому +1

    9:03 I tested it with Sorbet Leopard and sometimes it works, so I'm guessing it's a bug with PPCStore.
    It also does the same with 10.5.8 Leopard too.

  • @RWBHere
    @RWBHere 23 дні тому

    Thanks for this. I might try it out on my iMac G5 ALS.

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 Рік тому +5

    When I heard that this is a modified version, I was quite cool with that!

  • @xminexx
    @xminexx Рік тому

    This is actually so good, I have on my mac mini (A1103 1.25) with 9.2.2 os x tiger and os x sorbet leopard ggs man continue the good content

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices Рік тому +1

      I have it on my 867mhz Power Mac G4 alongside macOS 9.2.2 and 10.4.11. I also have it on my 17” PowerBook G4 1.5ghz alongside Tiger and plan to put it on the 15” 1.25ghz model I just got.

  • @geoCow
    @geoCow Рік тому +2

    What about Safari? Has it been updated in Sorbet to support current websites?

  • @fishermanwastakin
    @fishermanwastakin Рік тому +1

    I can’t believe he did a Mac video , am flabbergasted

  • @mikeriv9229
    @mikeriv9229 Рік тому +4

    I first played minecraft on a power mac G4, I feel like the standard edition should run. Granted it was beta 1.3 or whatever so much has changed. Might look into that

    • @lukeonuke
      @lukeonuke Рік тому

      i an now intrested but how many fps did it have

    • @mikeriv9229
      @mikeriv9229 Рік тому

      @@lukeonuke not a ton but definitely playable. Maybe 30ish on low settings

    • @lukeonuke
      @lukeonuke Рік тому +1

      @@mikeriv9229 Amazing, thats 20 more than id expect, but still old minecraft could probably run on a toaster

  • @transitengineer
    @transitengineer Рік тому +2

    Thank you, for sharing this. However, nobody on You Tube will do a slow step-by-step teaching session. About 9-months ago, I downloaded OS X Sorbet Leopard but cannot for the life of me figure out, how to get it installed. Also, where can, I go to learn about the other project updating Apple's OS X 10.4 Tiger for Power PC macs? Perhaps this modified operating system has a step-by-step tutorial (smile...smile).

  • @tylerdean980
    @tylerdean980 Рік тому +5

    They haven't contributed shit to FreeBSD in terms of code, but at least they somewhat acknowledge that FreeBSD is a part of their OS with the shape of that sorbet.

  • @davidkshow
    @davidkshow Рік тому +1

    I love Mac OS X! ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤

  • @DaveAndBambi2.5
    @DaveAndBambi2.5 Рік тому

    Babe wake up, Micheal MJD uploaded.

  • @rafiexperimental
    @rafiexperimental Рік тому +2

    Can it browse youtube and all that? Leopard doesnt support newer browsers

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices Рік тому +2

      It uses leopard WebKit which uses a newer version of the safari engine. It will probably be too slow to watch UA-cam at anything higher than 240p-360p unless you have a G5 with a good GPU.

  • @lnsane999
    @lnsane999 Рік тому +1

    what’s up michael, been a fan for a few years, love the videos great work!!

  • @nathancool4908
    @nathancool4908 Рік тому +1

    Hey Michael, could you you maybe do a video where you go trough all of your pc’s?

  • @djhpdell
    @djhpdell Рік тому +1

    Go to love Michael’s video. Been following since the pandemic and I have learned more from what I know.

  • @Bertie_Ahern
    @Bertie_Ahern Рік тому +3

    I'm always desperate to downgrade my MacOS because every update is, as well all know, a downgrade that prevents programs from running and makes things harder to use. I hope they start doing this with all the older versions of MacOS.

  • @fdolbec123
    @fdolbec123 Рік тому

    I do remember that RAM Disk was a thing back in Mac OS 9!

  • @alekspapiez2648
    @alekspapiez2648 Рік тому

    Finally new episode 😭

  • @EasyHeat
    @EasyHeat Рік тому

    I've got an old G4 Pro and G5 Pro stuck in a closet. This looks pretty neato. Thanks!

  • @OM3N98
    @OM3N98 Рік тому +1

    i wonder, what is with the certifcats and ssl is that also upgraded, or is it still a problem browsing content or connecting to services wich use actual encryption ? does anyone may know that ?

    • @geoCow
      @geoCow Рік тому

      I need to know this too.

  • @guitarkid660
    @guitarkid660 Рік тому +1

    I like that sorbet like i like my MJD videos🍧

  • @CameronReape
    @CameronReape Рік тому +1

    0:03 FROM THE WINDOWS guy?

  • @OMRCBlox
    @OMRCBlox Рік тому +2

    If I had a MacBook I would install this! :)

    • @andrupka8749
      @andrupka8749 Рік тому +5

      It's for PowerPC so you would need a Powerbook or an iBook :)

    • @anidnmeno
      @anidnmeno Рік тому +4

      gotta have a PPC Mac. MacBooks are Intel Get a G4

  • @obseletechannel
    @obseletechannel Рік тому

    Next Michael MJD video: Installing macOS on a Desktop computer

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber Рік тому +4

    I feel a sudden urge to have Ice Cream now. My favourite flavour is Windows 11.

  • @wisehat_yt
    @wisehat_yt Рік тому

    awesome vid as always :)

  • @pkf4124
    @pkf4124 Рік тому

    My G5 has expressed an interest in having this installed. My G3 also asked. My G4 has other ideas.

  • @NeonSonOfXenon
    @NeonSonOfXenon Рік тому +1

    "high leopard"lol

  • @gusbecerra8116
    @gusbecerra8116 Рік тому +1

    Can you web surf without any major issues?

  • @Mbabbb399
    @Mbabbb399 9 місяців тому

    Why does it change to dock that’s one of the most visually appealing parts of snow leopard and I wasn’t even really old enough to have a computer yet when all this was around

  • @PeterEmery
    @PeterEmery Рік тому

    Hmm - I have a dual processor 1.25 GHz MDD G4 PowerMac with GB RAM plus a 12-in G4 PowerBook 1.5 GHz with 1.25 GB RAM. I reckon they'll be candidates for Sorbet Leopard.

  • @QuinceTart10
    @QuinceTart10 Рік тому

    9:10 Actually, on my regular 10.5.8 Mac Mini, PPCStore also didn't want to download anything, so I don't think it has something to do with the Sorbet devs.

  • @Supersmg4fan
    @Supersmg4fan 10 місяців тому

    Ok, leopard, snow leopard, sorbet leopard, what's missing? Spagetti leopard?

  • @sgal5845
    @sgal5845 Рік тому

    I got excited about this thinking I'd have a classic macOS *.iso for my 2010 MacBook, then I realized:
    it's a 2010. it needs 10.7 and newer.

  • @TechGamerArcade
    @TechGamerArcade 2 місяці тому

    I have a 2007 iMac but I can’t connect to WiFi

  • @tomdfrog
    @tomdfrog Рік тому

    Makes me wish I had kept one of my old PPC machines. Hung onto some for a long time...but finally sold/gave them away. Time to troll CL.

  • @MrBritrider
    @MrBritrider 3 місяці тому

    Can I use Sorbet on my G5 1.8 power PC? Also, would I lose all my apps currently running on regular Leopard?

  • @Techmej
    @Techmej Рік тому +2

    It'd be really cool if someone made some sort of modded Ventura version that runs on PowerPC processors

  • @astrotone
    @astrotone Рік тому

    “MATSHITA CD-RW CW-…” Thanks but I didn’t need to know

  • @semibiotic
    @semibiotic Рік тому

    Judging on derived FreeBSD foundation logo on thumbnail it is MacOS with re-injected FreeBSD components ?

  • @stevejobs1955
    @stevejobs1955 Рік тому +1

    I have a early 2006 Imac but it is on snow leapard. Worth doing this or not? Or is there a snow leapard version?

    • @egbront1506
      @egbront1506 Рік тому +1

      This is for PPC machines only as they never got Snow Leopard.

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices Рік тому

      I have my 2006 iMac running lion, I had to upgrade the CPU, flash it as a 5,1 iMac, and modify the lion install to get it to work though. Once running it’s really nice to use though

    • @stevejobs1955
      @stevejobs1955 Рік тому

      @@EvilTurkeySlices do you know a way to get better app support without upgrading it physically?

  • @gamepunk7963
    @gamepunk7963 Рік тому

    Well today is my birthday!

  • @banks3388
    @banks3388 10 місяців тому

    If only Sorbet Leopard supported Compatibility mode i.e. OS9 application support...

  • @cursedfox4942
    @cursedfox4942 Рік тому

    Why is apple using the free bsd logo but purple

  • @Bolation
    @Bolation Рік тому

    I'm not able to create a partition... :(

  • @LiveUIClient5048
    @LiveUIClient5048 Рік тому +1

    'Oh boy, it's something Apple-related'
    Best way to start a video

  • @GolfWangMedia-incorporated
    @GolfWangMedia-incorporated Рік тому

    You know you’re an old school Mac user when you agree that not enabling dock magnification is a cardinal sin

  • @radeakins
    @radeakins 27 днів тому

    Can you remove the old OS once installed?

  • @averigonzalez2157
    @averigonzalez2157 Рік тому

    Love it!!!

  • @baardbi
    @baardbi Рік тому

    This is pretty cool. But I was hoping to see some web browsing. Has something been done to Safari in this version. Because without a functional browser that limits the OS sigificantly.

  • @charlesstansell
    @charlesstansell Рік тому

    Like Macbook

  • @MondySpartan
    @MondySpartan Рік тому

    Snow Leopard but with a modern coat of paint ;)

  • @echoless3484
    @echoless3484 Рік тому +1

    VM Compatible?

  • @computernerdinside
    @computernerdinside Рік тому +1

    This would’ve been so awesome to know this existed an experience it on my eMac G4 that I have before it died due to a capacitor failure.
    On a sidenote, if anybody has a list of capacitors that I can order, I’d love to have the list and order them before I take it apart. I’d hate to take it apart, find and order all the capacitors, then lose pieces or forget how to put it back together while they ship. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

  • @theprotester5171
    @theprotester5171 Рік тому +5

    For a sec I thought this was an actionretro video 😂

  • @homemadesuperstar796
    @homemadesuperstar796 9 місяців тому

    Im installing this on my intel imac

    • @BeyondTech12
      @BeyondTech12 3 місяці тому

      You can’t it’s only for powerpc you can use it if you use an emulator on your Intel Mac to emulate powerpc

  • @OP4455OP
    @OP4455OP Рік тому

    **Sad 2006 Mac Pro noise**

  • @nikicze1220
    @nikicze1220 Рік тому

    Love your video)))

  • @alfmea
    @alfmea Рік тому

    Bro really did a Linus Segway 💀

  • @kamakhyasrivastava5943
    @kamakhyasrivastava5943 Рік тому

    MJD please help me i have a windows insider update but i already run 22H2 what do i do please tell me

  • @linusgsebastian
    @linusgsebastian Рік тому +1

    4:58 is that limewire?!?

    • @EvilTurkeySlices
      @EvilTurkeySlices Рік тому

      The 15” PowerBook G4 I just got in today had Limewire on it. I wiped the install because it had personal files on it.

  • @stepfatre
    @stepfatre Рік тому

    Im waiting on dat tiger video im tryna c a good mac to buy for school n i want it to b able to run GarageBand and do all my schoolwork n shxt smooth

  • @gru_is_in_brazil
    @gru_is_in_brazil Рік тому

    Logging in with an Apple ID actually does kinda work