Newcastle fan here, whole heartedly agree with everything you've said. In a situation where a club comes in and tries to buy your top players when you have no need to sell, the selling club holds all the cards and can name their price. Which is fair. Football clubs aren't a charity and I would want Newcastle to do the exact same if someone came in for Isak, Gordon or Bruno. Keep up the good work bud
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. I think most Newcastle fans I’ve spoken to about it are pretty philosophical as we’ve often been in the same boat with our brightest talents.
Top class Dan. From a toon fan. Love your content on Twitter, this is great too. Selhurst is my favourite place to go other than St James'. I've got no issue with you lot pushing up the table! All the best
Thanks Elliott, that’s a lovely comment to get. I do think it’s a possible deal, I’m just not sure you’ll want to spend the sum it’ll take on a CB this summer. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment.
@@HLTCOMEDIA ahhhhhh mate it's a pleasure! Guehi is a great player, and you're well within your rights to demand a high sum, especially given the standard he set at the euros. Time will tell, I'd love him here. But I don't think he will be pushing to leave Palace
Very long time palace fan here. Great post Dan, very clear (+ bonus Eze info, cheers) If you want him you gotta pay top $$$, or risk losing a premiership experienced England International for comparative peanuts, to one of your European rivals or counterparts - That's the line I'd be pedalling to clubs if I was Parrish. Personally, I'm torn. He's at the top of the curve for transfer fees, thanks to a brilliant Euros. If he won't sign a contract move him on, and keep the system working. (even though I think his actual value IMHO should be nearer 100M) That said, keep him for a season & get us into euro places if you're positive like me (giving us another 12M in table position money next season) or make sure we're not fighting for relegation (if you're a negative fan) which will guarantee us another 150Mil next summer. This will come at the cost of about half this summers predicted fees. Tough choice...
Great work, Dan. I'm a Palace fan so I am very happy to see the club hold firm and do what's right for itself and all of us as a fan base. But I also have some empathy for Newcastle fans. No doubt £70 mil. is a lot to ask -- I might be frustrated were I in their shoes. Trouble is, the economics of football are so brutally skewed in favor of large clubs with resources that the rest of the league has few levers to pull when it comes to competing for table position. One of those levers is extracting unreasonable fees from the clubs with resources, and Newcastle is now in that group. Is it fair? No, definitely not. But the whole league is unfair, so that's where we are.
I think you’re spot on, Tim. I think it’s also important to highlight how much money Premier League Football is worth year on year, now that’s proven for England too, the market dictates, as bonkers as it is, that £70m is pretty standard.
NUFC fan here. Really enjoy your content. You take all emption out of whatever you're commenting on. Rare for us fans. Keep.up the great work and im sure yiu will enjoy next season...Glasner seems a top coach. Hopefully he doent get poached
Great content and I agree. If I was on the Newcastle board I'd be walking away now and looking elsewhere. I'd rather buy from someone in Europe than financially strengthen a prem rival.
As a palace fan, I do understand Marc Guehi is our best defender, but I can’t help but feel there’s players like Maxwell Lacroix that we could get as a decent replacement and stand to gain so much profit. If we hold off until next season, Guehi’s fee could be halved.
I don’t disagree with your view to be fair, I think the switch to a back five, coupled with the emergence of Richards and the signing of Chadi Riad, not to mention roughly £45m of profit would be a huge tick for the overall project.
I'm a big fan of Marc both as a player and as a person but, if he won't sign a new contract, he is a fast depreciating asset and it makes financial sense to sell now. Easier to replace than a player such as Eze.
If Marc does go, Evan, I'd love to see the club use at least some of the proceeds to reinvest in extending some contracts. Tyrick, Richards, JP, and Eddy notably. And most of all: Oliver Glasner. We need that guy on a new deal, stat!
Toon fan. I used to live in London and went to Selhurst Park a bunch of times. Great stadium, great club, great fans. Nothing but respect. For me, from a buying club perspective, I think there is better value on the market. Not to say CPFC can't ask for whatever price they like! I'd put Guehi on a par with Lacroix, and slightly ahead of Chalobah. I'd say Todibo, and Thiaw are ahead of all of them. All of these players are available for transfer, are physically superior to Guehi, and their current valuations lie between 25 and 35m. I personally can't see why anyone would buy Guehi ahead of any of these players. Okay, Guehi is a known quantity in that he's done it in the league and is a sound lad, a good addition to any dressing room. But that isn't to say those others I mentioned wouldn't be and even still, for me that wouldn't justify the leap in price tag that he represents. Signing one of those others instead of Guehi would give you the ability to buy another squad player, or to go all out in another position. For me, NUFC should be spending this kind of money on an Almiron upgrade before anything. It is a far more pressing matter. As is a replacement for perma-crock Wilson. I'd argue an upgrade on Pope is also more important due to his injury record and how terrible we were when he was out last season (conceded about 17 in 15 league games he played, compared to 47 in the 23 he missed.) If we are going to get a centre back, it must represent better value because PSR disables us. Thiaw is 2 years younger than Guehi, has Champions League experience, has the physical advantage, can play at right back (important if Trippier is to leave), and is around half the price with a higher ceiling. Guehi doesn't even offer an upgrade on Schar, other than in age. He wouldn't play ahead of Schar this coming season. My hope is that Newcastle are aware of LFC's interest in Guehi and their need for a new CB. They want to manipulate the scousers into a bidding war so they spend a huge amount of money on him, thus ending any realistic ambitions they may have of signing one Anthony Gordon. This story may also encourage AC Milan to drop their price for Thiaw a little. And for CPFC'c sake, I hope you get 80m for Guehi, just not from us! The new coach looks to be a winner and there are some great players in the squad. The sales of Olise and Guehi would allow a rebuild, and give Glasner the foundation he needs to really get Palace firing. There is still very good value in the transfer market (any of the defenders I've listed above offer an upgrade on Guehi and are cheaper... ideal replacements imo) for clubs like Palace that do things properly.
Wow, thanks for such a thoughtful and detailed answer. I think it’s highly likely, should Guehi go, that Lacroix is the player we go for as a direct replacement; he previously worked with Glasner and as you’ve just mentioned, it would be a fraction of the fee.
@@HLTCOMEDIA Lacroix is great. I didn't know he had been linked with Palace and I hadn't realised he already knows Glasner. He'd be a very good replacement for Guehi. He's a beast. And has solid distribution. But one big advantage to signing him (or Todibo) which doesn't get spoken about is that he never gets called up for international duty. France has a crazy amount of centre backs, and they tend to go for the ones at bigger clubs. That means Saliba, Upamecano, Kounde, Konate, Disasi, Kimpembe are all ahead in the pecking order. So no being overworked or needlessly injured. Lacroix will always get a proper summer holiday. He would be a real coup for anyone outside the big spenders. You would likely see him being touted for the likes of Liverpool after a couple of seasons. I can see him taking a similar trajectory to Van Dijk. I'd love to see him at Toon, for aforementioned reasons I'd prefer him over Guehi. But I'd like to see him at a Place rebuild too. Alongside some other good value players to bring out the best in Eze and Wharton and make an assault on European qualification. It could happen with the right signings. Last Newcastle game I was at was against your lot at St James'. Your boys really frustrated the Toon, and the fans were class. We managed a very tight 1-0 victory, the game where Miggy Almiron scored an absolute worldy cutting in from the right. He was in that crazy purple patch that carried on into the following season. It was the season of the takeover when Eddie took us from bottom in January to 11th and he turned us into an almost impenetrable defensive unit. But Palace had all the possession that day and we were on the counter for the whole game, it could have gone either way. Good times! Anyway, best of luck for the coming season.
Thanks again for such a detailed reply, you really know your stuff. I will say, our recruitment over the last 3-4 years has been incredibly smart and I’d expect that to continue should the Guehi deal go through. Please do keep in touch.
Agree with everything you’ve said Dan. As a Palace fan I am more than happy for him to go for a big price given he is coming into the final 2 years of his contract. Palace have been poor at turning over valuable players bought for much lower prices into big profits and we need to get into this rhythm in order to grow as a Club. I like The Toon a lot, a great football city and a massive fan base. No player is indispensable and the Club is more important than any player. As Owners, Players and Supporters we are Custodians of our Clubs for a period of time. Success is leaving your Club in a better position than when you inherited it. Up The Palace.
Happy to pay it. Great player. Will be the perfect partner for botman and has history with Tino and Hall. Great signing. Palace sign and sell well, you'll be fine
Palace definitely not above there station, they are where they deserve to be and great to see them do well down to great management of the club from Toon fan
Newcastle fan here, I can't see us paying a penny over £60m personally. Pretty sure we won't break out £63m transfer record for Isak, as we still have to buy a top-level RW and Guehi isn't guaranteed to be world class. The issue Palace have is he only has 2 years left on his contract. If you reject £60m now, he might only be worth £40m-45m next summer due to his contract situation. Is he worth essentially £15m to loan for a season? I personally think we only have a ~25% chance of signing him, and that's on the basis there's no serious interest elsewhere and Palace lower their asking price towards the end of the window. Unlikely... Edit: There's always the chance that our interest isn't *that* genuine either. We could be using his name to help with negotiations on cheaper players elsewhere, i.e. Thiaw from Milan
From previous experience, the smokescreen possibility is always a strong one. I will say from the Palace side too, that there will be a real desire from the hierarchy generally to give Glasner as many tools as possible to succeed given the impact he had. We managed to perform superbly without Guehi throughout his time in charge at the back end of last season and have, in theory at least, recruited very well with half of the Olise money, they won’t want to take away another first-team regular from Glasner when there’s no financial need.
Interesting video. It's been reported, some places, there is a release clause. The only problem palace have is that his value will likely increase, but his price will halve this summer to next summer, due to his contract.
There’s definitely not a release clause in Guehi’s contract, we may well offer him a new one that has a clause in like we did with Olise and Eze but in terms of Guehi’s current deal, there is no such clause.
@@HLTCOMEDIA nice one. I know how highly you think of him. Do you know if it's an offer or enquiry? Could his agent be trying to pump up a new deal at palace?
As far as I know right now, there’s no formal offer. There’s definitely a desire from Palace to discuss a new deal, as of yet that hasn’t been reciprocated by Guehi himself.
I mostly agree with you but would add the caveat that player power is a thing and if he is allowed to talk to Newcastle and make clear to palace he wants to leave that will push palaces hand a bit. I think around £55/60m gets the deal done and i think thats a fair price and i can see Newcastle paying that. They havent made a big signing yet this year and Guehi would be a massive signing for them and has all the hallmarks of a Eddie howe target.
At 70M he's a bargain, when you look at his age, Premier experience, fully fledged England International etc etc. Think about all the foreign players you've spent big money on, that didn't work out. That issue isn't in play, and should be factored into any fans thoughts. You're buying a stud, with upsides. If you can get him for 70 Mil, you're getting a bargain (especially when you view Maguire or Martinez)
I'm torn over the Guehi links. We definitely need a CB especially with Botman and Lascelles out long term but is Guehi really worth us paying £60 million + for ? No problem with Palace demanding what they want for him but I'm wondering if it makes sense for us to pay it. Another issue is that he has only ever really played left sided centre back. What happens when Botman returns ? Meanwhile our right sided options are either limited ability (Lascelles, Krafth) or ageing (Schar is 33). I honestly don't really know how good he is. He seemed good but unspectacular in the Euros but is that representative of what he has been doing consistently for the last 2 years or not ?
He's plays on left so Joa can ping the long crossfield balls, but he's actually predominately right footed. Looks even better with that fact - think we need to up the asking price... 😂
Couldn't reach you on twitter so hopefully this one gets to you, not sure where all the aggro comes from with the other Palace fans but you're a top bloke who always has decent things to say about us and in general good takes on most things. Wish Palace all the best for next season for you and the other decent ones among you (albeit hopefully without Guehi after he's joined us 😄)
Thank you mate, I’m touched to see you say that. I’m pretty happy with things at the club right now, hopefully the optimism from last season carries over to this one. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
The aggro is the arrogant strutting from some of your fans. It's a twitter thing, I've followed a few of you Geordies fans who are sensible. Are your worried about losing Eddie to England?
@@timetofloatstafford It's only really Palace we get it from though aside from the usual obnoxious three ManUtd/Liverpool/Arsenal and the exchanges we have with Everton at times, no idea why. But nah not even slightly concerned about the England links with Eddie, the blokes a workaholic and just isn't the type to be sitting around waiting for months to get some time on the training pitch with his players, at least not at this stage of his career anyway. He's still massively underrated even by a few of our lot as well.
I don't think the fee quoted is unreasonable at all. Think back to 2018 and how Harry Maguire's stock rose after that tournament in a similar way to how Marc's has this summer. Maguire went for £80m so that's the absolute minimum we should be asking for right now. He's now an England regular and his price should absolutely reflect that.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable either, the only caveat for me is the lack of time left on his deal in a relative sense. It’s also the only thing that puts us in mind of selling at all. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
Toon fan here, please dont lump us in with the cartel clubs. We are still in the exact same position you are in. Arsenal wanted Bruno and Isak, but wouldnt pay what they were worth, Liverpool want Gordon, they dont want to pay what hes worth though. Thats why they brough in FFP, to make us desperate for a "big" sale. But to keep that value down, the cartel are the only clubs who can afford a "big" offer.
The wealth of your owners puts you in the same bracket as the others (except Arsenal, who are just tight) At least you didn't go down the galacticos route, you've bought some great players with the pif money
@@timetofloatstafford the wealth of our owners and how much we have spent is exactly the problem, we can't spend much at all because the cartel have handicapped anyone with wealthy new owners from dropping money into the club they just bought to buy whatever players they want. It wasn't a choice to not buy galacticos, it was the rules put in place after man city happened, the ones that keep changing just to keep Newcastle under control.
This is probably a smoke screen. Newcastle usually dont do business in the open like this. Im a Newcastle fan and i would be very surprised if this is a genuine transfer.
Slight misleading title. Content was more about the justification of his value rather than your thoughts on as a palace fan if you think he’s likely to move. I agree palace are in a strong position but the other side of the coin is his value to you is probably never going to be higher than it is now. 12 month left on his contract next summer immediately halves his value without the variables of him underperforming or getting injured or Palace underperforming and not finishing as high is you hope now. So yes 70m is your right but also let’s say 55m plus some options is also a deal that may need to be considered.
I would argue that the video sought to explain why the fee being put forward is unlikely to change, thus informing Newcastle fans as to the likelihood of it. In a nutshell, if the fee gets met, I think he’ll go, I don’t see the club budging in any tangible way from that initial valuation this summer for the Olise, Eze and strong PSR reasons given. Apologies if you felt it was misleading, wasn’t my intention at all. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment. 🫡
@@HLTCOMEDIA his signing and Fee around the 60mil mark would match our model of bringing in one blockbuster deal each summer. Isak 2 years ago and Tonali (let not dive too much into this one) last year. From NUFC side we are hearing reports that we haven’t shirked at the prospect of it being 60m plus. The question mark will be do we do all the work and some tries to swoop in.
I know Liverpool have also been mentioned and could probably afford to pay it too, ultimately, if the fee is met, there won’t be any moving of the goalposts from Palace I don’t think, particularly given a contract that expires in the summer of 2026.
cobblers. If we sell him next summer....far more likely for £30M-£35M that's completely fine. The club still make a small profit AND goes into the accounts as pure cash straight away anyway. Also does more to secure the £175M a year that we make from the league.
I remember it starting. When palace fans starting talking about human rights. Wiith your flags in Saudia Arabia. Funny how yiu never mentioned it once. Until they rocked up at Newcastle
For a bit of added clarity, I’ve never waded into that particular argument because quite frankly, the Premier League and indeed big business as a whole globally is deeply entwined with Saudi and to pretend otherwise has always felt foolish to me.
I’m not pretending anything young man. I was only stating the facts. Never saw a single flag at Selhurst until they came. And now if this does go through or any future sales. Crystal Palace will gladly take their money. Funny old world.
I feel you’ve misunderstood my reply, I’m not accusing you of pretending, I’m saying that for me (or anyone else) to act as though the Premier League and big business as a whole isn’t entwined with Saudi would be foolish. The flags themselves were put up by a section of our support, not every person at the club.
Newcastle fan here, whole heartedly agree with everything you've said. In a situation where a club comes in and tries to buy your top players when you have no need to sell, the selling club holds all the cards and can name their price. Which is fair. Football clubs aren't a charity and I would want Newcastle to do the exact same if someone came in for Isak, Gordon or Bruno. Keep up the good work bud
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. I think most Newcastle fans I’ve spoken to about it are pretty philosophical as we’ve often been in the same boat with our brightest talents.
@@HLTCOMEDIAYou're welcome, your content is great bud. Most definitely mate, I still wake up in cold sweats over losing Cabaye to PSG in 2011 🤣
Top class Dan. From a toon fan. Love your content on Twitter, this is great too. Selhurst is my favourite place to go other than St James'. I've got no issue with you lot pushing up the table! All the best
Thanks Elliott, that’s a lovely comment to get. I do think it’s a possible deal, I’m just not sure you’ll want to spend the sum it’ll take on a CB this summer. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment.
@@HLTCOMEDIA ahhhhhh mate it's a pleasure! Guehi is a great player, and you're well within your rights to demand a high sum, especially given the standard he set at the euros. Time will tell, I'd love him here. But I don't think he will be pushing to leave Palace
You could well end up getting him for £40m in a years time instead to be fair.
@@HLTCOMEDIAdon't tell him that 😂
Very long time palace fan here.
Great post Dan, very clear (+ bonus Eze info, cheers)
If you want him you gotta pay top $$$, or risk losing a premiership experienced England International for comparative peanuts, to one of your European rivals or counterparts - That's the line I'd be pedalling to clubs if I was Parrish.
Personally, I'm torn.
He's at the top of the curve for transfer fees, thanks to a brilliant Euros. If he won't sign a contract move him on, and keep the system working. (even though I think his actual value IMHO should be nearer 100M)
That said, keep him for a season & get us into euro places if you're positive like me (giving us another 12M in table position money next season) or make sure we're not fighting for relegation (if you're a negative fan) which will guarantee us another 150Mil next summer.
This will come at the cost of about half this summers predicted fees.
Tough choice...
Great work, Dan. I'm a Palace fan so I am very happy to see the club hold firm and do what's right for itself and all of us as a fan base. But I also have some empathy for Newcastle fans. No doubt £70 mil. is a lot to ask -- I might be frustrated were I in their shoes. Trouble is, the economics of football are so brutally skewed in favor of large clubs with resources that the rest of the league has few levers to pull when it comes to competing for table position. One of those levers is extracting unreasonable fees from the clubs with resources, and Newcastle is now in that group. Is it fair? No, definitely not. But the whole league is unfair, so that's where we are.
I think you’re spot on, Tim. I think it’s also important to highlight how much money Premier League Football is worth year on year, now that’s proven for England too, the market dictates, as bonkers as it is, that £70m is pretty standard.
Great content as always! (Newcastle fan)
NUFC fan here.
Really enjoy your content. You take all emption out of whatever you're commenting on.
Rare for us fans.
Keep.up the great work and im sure yiu will enjoy next season...Glasner seems a top coach. Hopefully he doent get poached
Thanks so much, David; that’s very kind of you. Hopefully you’ll enjoy the more frequent uploads on this channel from now on.
Great content and I agree. If I was on the Newcastle board I'd be walking away now and looking elsewhere. I'd rather buy from someone in Europe than financially strengthen a prem rival.
newcastle fan here, totally agree. sell for how you value the player, not twitter pundits
As a palace fan, I do understand Marc Guehi is our best defender, but I can’t help but feel there’s players like Maxwell Lacroix that we could get as a decent replacement and stand to gain so much profit. If we hold off until next season, Guehi’s fee could be halved.
I don’t disagree with your view to be fair, I think the switch to a back five, coupled with the emergence of Richards and the signing of Chadi Riad, not to mention roughly £45m of profit would be a huge tick for the overall project.
I'm a big fan of Marc both as a player and as a person but, if he won't sign a new contract, he is a fast depreciating asset and it makes financial sense to sell now. Easier to replace than a player such as Eze.
If Marc does go, Evan, I'd love to see the club use at least some of the proceeds to reinvest in extending some contracts. Tyrick, Richards, JP, and Eddy notably. And most of all: Oliver Glasner. We need that guy on a new deal, stat!
Toon fan. I used to live in London and went to Selhurst Park a bunch of times. Great stadium, great club, great fans. Nothing but respect.
For me, from a buying club perspective, I think there is better value on the market. Not to say CPFC can't ask for whatever price they like!
I'd put Guehi on a par with Lacroix, and slightly ahead of Chalobah. I'd say Todibo, and Thiaw are ahead of all of them. All of these players are available for transfer, are physically superior to Guehi, and their current valuations lie between 25 and 35m. I personally can't see why anyone would buy Guehi ahead of any of these players.
Okay, Guehi is a known quantity in that he's done it in the league and is a sound lad, a good addition to any dressing room. But that isn't to say those others I mentioned wouldn't be and even still, for me that wouldn't justify the leap in price tag that he represents. Signing one of those others instead of Guehi would give you the ability to buy another squad player, or to go all out in another position.
For me, NUFC should be spending this kind of money on an Almiron upgrade before anything. It is a far more pressing matter. As is a replacement for perma-crock Wilson. I'd argue an upgrade on Pope is also more important due to his injury record and how terrible we were when he was out last season (conceded about 17 in 15 league games he played, compared to 47 in the 23 he missed.)
If we are going to get a centre back, it must represent better value because PSR disables us. Thiaw is 2 years younger than Guehi, has Champions League experience, has the physical advantage, can play at right back (important if Trippier is to leave), and is around half the price with a higher ceiling. Guehi doesn't even offer an upgrade on Schar, other than in age. He wouldn't play ahead of Schar this coming season.
My hope is that Newcastle are aware of LFC's interest in Guehi and their need for a new CB. They want to manipulate the scousers into a bidding war so they spend a huge amount of money on him, thus ending any realistic ambitions they may have of signing one Anthony Gordon. This story may also encourage AC Milan to drop their price for Thiaw a little.
And for CPFC'c sake, I hope you get 80m for Guehi, just not from us! The new coach looks to be a winner and there are some great players in the squad. The sales of Olise and Guehi would allow a rebuild, and give Glasner the foundation he needs to really get Palace firing. There is still very good value in the transfer market (any of the defenders I've listed above offer an upgrade on Guehi and are cheaper... ideal replacements imo) for clubs like Palace that do things properly.
Wow, thanks for such a thoughtful and detailed answer. I think it’s highly likely, should Guehi go, that Lacroix is the player we go for as a direct replacement; he previously worked with Glasner and as you’ve just mentioned, it would be a fraction of the fee.
@@HLTCOMEDIA Lacroix is great. I didn't know he had been linked with Palace and I hadn't realised he already knows Glasner. He'd be a very good replacement for Guehi. He's a beast. And has solid distribution. But one big advantage to signing him (or Todibo) which doesn't get spoken about is that he never gets called up for international duty. France has a crazy amount of centre backs, and they tend to go for the ones at bigger clubs. That means Saliba, Upamecano, Kounde, Konate, Disasi, Kimpembe are all ahead in the pecking order. So no being overworked or needlessly injured. Lacroix will always get a proper summer holiday. He would be a real coup for anyone outside the big spenders. You would likely see him being touted for the likes of Liverpool after a couple of seasons. I can see him taking a similar trajectory to Van Dijk.
I'd love to see him at Toon, for aforementioned reasons I'd prefer him over Guehi. But I'd like to see him at a Place rebuild too. Alongside some other good value players to bring out the best in Eze and Wharton and make an assault on European qualification. It could happen with the right signings.
Last Newcastle game I was at was against your lot at St James'. Your boys really frustrated the Toon, and the fans were class. We managed a very tight 1-0 victory, the game where Miggy Almiron scored an absolute worldy cutting in from the right. He was in that crazy purple patch that carried on into the following season. It was the season of the takeover when Eddie took us from bottom in January to 11th and he turned us into an almost impenetrable defensive unit. But Palace had all the possession that day and we were on the counter for the whole game, it could have gone either way. Good times!
Anyway, best of luck for the coming season.
Thanks again for such a detailed reply, you really know your stuff. I will say, our recruitment over the last 3-4 years has been incredibly smart and I’d expect that to continue should the Guehi deal go through. Please do keep in touch.
Newcastle fan here, he worths the 60m price tag personally
Agree with everything you’ve said Dan.
As a Palace fan I am more than happy for him to go for a big price given he is coming into the final 2 years of his contract.
Palace have been poor at turning over valuable players bought for much lower prices into big profits and we need to get into this rhythm in order to grow as a Club.
I like The Toon a lot, a great football city and a massive fan base.
No player is indispensable and the Club is more important than any player.
As Owners, Players and Supporters we are Custodians of our Clubs for a period of time. Success is leaving your Club in a better position than when you inherited it.
Up The Palace.
Happy to pay it. Great player. Will be the perfect partner for botman and has history with Tino and Hall.
Great signing.
Palace sign and sell well, you'll be fine
Palace definitely not above there station, they are where they deserve to be and great to see them do well down to great management of the club from Toon fan
People can scoff as much as they like, it's basic economics. Good video mate 👍🏼
Newcastle fan here, I can't see us paying a penny over £60m personally. Pretty sure we won't break out £63m transfer record for Isak, as we still have to buy a top-level RW and Guehi isn't guaranteed to be world class.
The issue Palace have is he only has 2 years left on his contract. If you reject £60m now, he might only be worth £40m-45m next summer due to his contract situation. Is he worth essentially £15m to loan for a season?
I personally think we only have a ~25% chance of signing him, and that's on the basis there's no serious interest elsewhere and Palace lower their asking price towards the end of the window. Unlikely...
Edit: There's always the chance that our interest isn't *that* genuine either. We could be using his name to help with negotiations on cheaper players elsewhere, i.e. Thiaw from Milan
From previous experience, the smokescreen possibility is always a strong one. I will say from the Palace side too, that there will be a real desire from the hierarchy generally to give Glasner as many tools as possible to succeed given the impact he had.
We managed to perform superbly without Guehi throughout his time in charge at the back end of last season and have, in theory at least, recruited very well with half of the Olise money, they won’t want to take away another first-team regular from Glasner when there’s no financial need.
Newcastle fan here, his stock may go up but his price will inevitably go on after this summer. If Newcastle offer the money for him you have to sell.
Interesting video. It's been reported, some places, there is a release clause. The only problem palace have is that his value will likely increase, but his price will halve this summer to next summer, due to his contract.
There’s definitely not a release clause in Guehi’s contract, we may well offer him a new one that has a clause in like we did with Olise and Eze but in terms of Guehi’s current deal, there is no such clause.
@@HLTCOMEDIA nice one. I know how highly you think of him. Do you know if it's an offer or enquiry? Could his agent be trying to pump up a new deal at palace?
As far as I know right now, there’s no formal offer. There’s definitely a desire from Palace to discuss a new deal, as of yet that hasn’t been reciprocated by Guehi himself.
@@HLTCOMEDIA thanks, early leak to spark the bidding war you mentioned. Let's see what happens. Enjoy your Monday!
Same to you mate, good to chat. 🫡
I mostly agree with you but would add the caveat that player power is a thing and if he is allowed to talk to Newcastle and make clear to palace he wants to leave that will push palaces hand a bit. I think around £55/60m gets the deal done and i think thats a fair price and i can see Newcastle paying that. They havent made a big signing yet this year and Guehi would be a massive signing for them and has all the hallmarks of a Eddie howe target.
At 70M he's a bargain, when you look at his age, Premier experience, fully fledged England International etc etc. Think about all the foreign players you've spent big money on, that didn't work out. That issue isn't in play, and should be factored into any fans thoughts.
You're buying a stud, with upsides. If you can get him for 70 Mil, you're getting a bargain (especially when you view Maguire or Martinez)
I'm torn over the Guehi links. We definitely need a CB especially with Botman and Lascelles out long term but is Guehi really worth us paying £60 million + for ? No problem with Palace demanding what they want for him but I'm wondering if it makes sense for us to pay it.
Another issue is that he has only ever really played left sided centre back. What happens when Botman returns ? Meanwhile our right sided options are either limited ability (Lascelles, Krafth) or ageing (Schar is 33).
I honestly don't really know how good he is. He seemed good but unspectacular in the Euros but is that representative of what he has been doing consistently for the last 2 years or not ?
He's plays on left so Joa can ping the long crossfield balls, but he's actually predominately right footed.
Looks even better with that fact - think we need to up the asking price... 😂
The selling club dictates the value of a player. It's not complicated. - Nufc fan
Absolutely. Thanks for watching and commenting mate.
Couldn't reach you on twitter so hopefully this one gets to you, not sure where all the aggro comes from with the other Palace fans but you're a top bloke who always has decent things to say about us and in general good takes on most things. Wish Palace all the best for next season for you and the other decent ones among you (albeit hopefully without Guehi after he's joined us 😄)
Thank you mate, I’m touched to see you say that. I’m pretty happy with things at the club right now, hopefully the optimism from last season carries over to this one. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
The aggro is the arrogant strutting from some of your fans. It's a twitter thing, I've followed a few of you Geordies fans who are sensible.
Are your worried about losing Eddie to England?
@@timetofloatstafford It's only really Palace we get it from though aside from the usual obnoxious three ManUtd/Liverpool/Arsenal and the exchanges we have with Everton at times, no idea why. But nah not even slightly concerned about the England links with Eddie, the blokes a workaholic and just isn't the type to be sitting around waiting for months to get some time on the training pitch with his players, at least not at this stage of his career anyway. He's still massively underrated even by a few of our lot as well.
He is coming to Newcastle he loves the toon. And his mates are here. Plus Newcastle is a bigger club than palace
I don't think the fee quoted is unreasonable at all. Think back to 2018 and how Harry Maguire's stock rose after that tournament in a similar way to how Marc's has this summer. Maguire went for £80m so that's the absolute minimum we should be asking for right now. He's now an England regular and his price should absolutely reflect that.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable either, the only caveat for me is the lack of time left on his deal in a relative sense. It’s also the only thing that puts us in mind of selling at all. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
❤💙 Surely it’s pronounced «Patreon» 😉
It’s nearly Christmas now, why am I watching this? Love your Twitter feed btw. In other words, big fan of your work 👍
Think palace will price him out of a move . Hope not cos the lads class . Palace have a great squad .
Toon fan here, please dont lump us in with the cartel clubs. We are still in the exact same position you are in. Arsenal wanted Bruno and Isak, but wouldnt pay what they were worth, Liverpool want Gordon, they dont want to pay what hes worth though. Thats why they brough in FFP, to make us desperate for a "big" sale. But to keep that value down, the cartel are the only clubs who can afford a "big" offer.
The wealth of your owners puts you in the same bracket as the others (except Arsenal, who are just tight)
At least you didn't go down the galacticos route, you've bought some great players with the pif money
@@timetofloatstafford the wealth of our owners and how much we have spent is exactly the problem, we can't spend much at all because the cartel have handicapped anyone with wealthy new owners from dropping money into the club they just bought to buy whatever players they want. It wasn't a choice to not buy galacticos, it was the rules put in place after man city happened, the ones that keep changing just to keep Newcastle under control.
This is probably a smoke screen. Newcastle usually dont do business in the open like this. Im a Newcastle fan and i would be very surprised if this is a genuine transfer.
Even from a Newcastle fan I’ve always respected you but I do think your fans been getting carried away since how you ended the season
Slight misleading title. Content was more about the justification of his value rather than your thoughts on as a palace fan if you think he’s likely to move.
I agree palace are in a strong position but the other side of the coin is his value to you is probably never going to be higher than it is now. 12 month left on his contract next summer immediately halves his value without the variables of him underperforming or getting injured or Palace underperforming and not finishing as high is you hope now.
So yes 70m is your right but also let’s say 55m plus some options is also a deal that may need to be considered.
I would argue that the video sought to explain why the fee being put forward is unlikely to change, thus informing Newcastle fans as to the likelihood of it. In a nutshell, if the fee gets met, I think he’ll go, I don’t see the club budging in any tangible way from that initial valuation this summer for the Olise, Eze and strong PSR reasons given. Apologies if you felt it was misleading, wasn’t my intention at all. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment. 🫡
@@HLTCOMEDIA his signing and Fee around the 60mil mark would match our model of bringing in one blockbuster deal each summer. Isak 2 years ago and Tonali (let not dive too much into this one) last year. From NUFC side we are hearing reports that we haven’t shirked at the prospect of it being 60m plus. The question mark will be do we do all the work and some tries to swoop in.
I know Liverpool have also been mentioned and could probably afford to pay it too, ultimately, if the fee is met, there won’t be any moving of the goalposts from Palace I don’t think, particularly given a contract that expires in the summer of 2026.
cobblers. If we sell him next summer....far more likely for £30M-£35M that's completely fine. The club still make a small profit AND goes into the accounts as pure cash straight away anyway. Also does more to secure the £175M a year that we make from the league.
@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 30-35mil is half of 60-70mil as I said. Which next season may mean an additional player sale.
I remember it starting. When palace fans starting talking about human rights. Wiith your flags in Saudia Arabia. Funny how yiu never mentioned it once. Until they rocked up at Newcastle
For a bit of added clarity, I’ve never waded into that particular argument because quite frankly, the Premier League and indeed big business as a whole globally is deeply entwined with Saudi and to pretend otherwise has always felt foolish to me.
I’m not pretending anything young man. I was only stating the facts. Never saw a single flag at Selhurst until they came. And now if this does go through or any future sales. Crystal Palace will gladly take their money. Funny old world.
I feel you’ve misunderstood my reply, I’m not accusing you of pretending, I’m saying that for me (or anyone else) to act as though the Premier League and big business as a whole isn’t entwined with Saudi would be foolish. The flags themselves were put up by a section of our support, not every person at the club.
5:02 #clickbait over 4 minutes in, and nothing, yet...?
What exactly were you expecting? A 25 second video saying “It’s a 20% chance, see you all next time.”
@@HLTCOMEDIA😂😂😂 #takeabowson
Thought you're post was well reasoned and thought out.
We won’t get him
Do you think it’s a smokescreen for someone else?