Lectures always seem like they're going to be long but yours always fly by because they're so interesting and well done. Thank you for putting quality Omaha content out there it is very hard to find.
10:00 - If you have two blockers to a straight and nut flush. I'd say it's worth ripping it in. They'll be enough dead money in the pot to make it worth your while in the long run.
Hi Professor, I am playing from time to time PLO and to summarize it I am a losing player in this game. I was not able to understand this game, even after reading a book about it.I am training on the WSOP app and I can see results after following your principles and teaching, I have confidence I will do much better the next time I will play PLO and it is all thanks to you. I love your videos, you are awesome!
Ty so much! Love hearing these compliments and stories - you will have to follow up with me in a few weeks or a month and let know how much you’ve improved! Ty for watching!
Listen to your “running it twice” motto. I understand why, and their great reasons. However: If I put my opponent on a made hand, ie “trips, bottom straight completed” And I’m on a flush draw, w top straight draw 1 gap- wouldn’t running it twice now be in my favor? I also think, their might be a tale in people asking it- IK some do every all in- but paying attention to when they do not v do.
The more I think about it the more I’m in favor of running it once - that will help force you make proper decisions when calling an all in…. Idk, I don’t run it twice very often.
@@ploprofessor real quick, I was in a hand recently too: +340$ Preflop, and I flopped quad 99’s, get to the turn pot is $1500- MP leads out $500, i repot-all in. He tanks for a moment, “if I call can we run it twice?” You betch ya!! The look of disgust on his face when he saw the quads 😂😂😂
Most people handle losing terribly. A ton of people are under rolled for games they play. Play games you can afford and learn to lose without tilting and there is no good reason to run it twice.
I just started to play alot more PLO from Holdem 1month ago and just watch the first 3 lessons! No more donk bets out of positions! hahaha! THIS IS REALLY GOOD STUFF!
If you have the proper equity in many situations its better to lead with a bet - maybe a value bet - all depends.... I'm hoping the videos are helping! Let us know in 2-4 weeks how its changed your play and hopefully made ya stop PUNTING! Ty for the comment and watching!
@@ploprofessor I've busted way too many hands making donk bets and played Aces like holdem exactly how you have presented with typical holdem players! What resonated with me especially was how to play with bottom/middle sets! I've learnt to fold a lot more now and starting to become more profitable and busting out less. Some times variance still get to you when short stack puts it all in and rivered you... 🙄
Strong episode. At some point discuss recognition of when the table is going to switch from one to another and how to transition your game before everyone figures it out. I was in a game that was a bunch of action but in the course of 20-30 minutes 3 busted and 2 racked up and the players coming in were much much tighter and the game was practically dead until a couple got stuck, and a couple got stacks and it got back to "average". I understand if playing in an unfamiliar room you may not be as quick to shift as you don't know the players.
I cant say i agree with your notions on running it twice - running it twice does not change ev or hand equity, it simply minimizes variance - if you are discussing situations where people are more likely to call big bets with insufficient equity such that your ev is favorable to them folding, then you want to encourage this behavior - otoh if opps main leak is overfolding, then you want to increase that by refusing to run it twice such that your effective opponent fold % is higher This is why generally pros will be fine with running it twice in games where you are forced to show down hands (as they are mining the nuts and want low/no equity calls) and will refuse in tighter more agressive games (where the primary overlay is opponents failing to realize their marginal equity)
Great point! I like it when it makes sense! I didn't think of those things and you may be the only person who has convinced me to possibly change my principle on running it twice! The other general rule that I typically use (and this may or may not be a good thing), is that if I'm stuck (which literally should have no bearing on equity), I rarely run it twice because I feel its the best way to get unstuck; for example getting it all in with 60% equity, I'd rather run it once and have a better chance of getting out of the whole....... I know, Poker shouldn't be about being stuck or unstuck, it should be about play, raw numbers, gut feel, and reading....... but we are all human! Ty for watching and ty for the comment on running it twice! I'll consider it and most likely bring it up in Episode 6 (as Episode 5 was made today)!
@@ploprofessor like you said it turns out to be personal preference. I actually prefer running it 2-3 times the more equity I have and once if I feel I am behind. Line of thought is if my equity is 80% I want to run it as many times as possible to realize as close to that 80% as possible. If I have 35% equity the more times I run it the more times I will lose hence I rather get lucky that one time.
it doesn't simply minimize variance.hands don't take place in a vacuum. it gets less chips on the table and has people less tilted. if you handle losing better than your opponents you should run it once. Most players want to reduce their variance bc they play like shit when running bad. Why help them play better? I could maybe understand it against a super fishy player who prefers it to keep him happy, but against regs/pros especially one time them.
The typical fish will happily play looser if he expects to run it twice. You even said this yourself. But then you turn around and say that you want them to fold so they don't suck out on you. This is totally backwards. Let's do some simple math: Suppose the pot is $500 and you go all in for $500 on the turn. Now suppose your opponent has 20% equity. Do you want him to call? Case 1: He folds, you win $500 Case 2: He calls. The pot is now $1500. Rather than using equations, just pretend you run it 5 times and luck is average. (you win 4 of the run outs) You would win 1200 and he would get back 300. But you do need to remember you put in 500 more. But even so, your profit is 700, which is 40% more than when he folds. So you absolutely DO want him to call even though he can suck out. By being amenable to running it twice, you encourage such bad calls. Furthermore, the fish are more inclined to be the folks who are uncomfortable when people refuse to run it twice. Finally, the game of PLO already has a ton of variance and running it twice reduces variance. This may not matter to one who has deep pockets, but many fish are playing over their heads. It would be a DISASTER to expose them to higher variance and bust them. Or, if they run super hot and decide to buy a new car, their poker bankroll does not even manage to come back to the field.
You are the first person to notice that - before I recorded this episode I was doing some handy man work on a house that I own! It had paint or drywall mud on the other side so I turned it inside out before recording! All good though, after this episode I would bring a change of clothes with me to change into before filming! Ty for noticing, the comment and Ty for watching!
Hello, how to handle top set on dynamic flop & spr high? Ex: You have QQxx on QJ4ss OOP and SPR = 2 or 3 or 5. But Turn could complete straight or flush. I see people just x/c if turn straight or flush come. If they have flush, you just have 20% top set vs flush. And They bet pot turn, we need 33% to call. Thanks
@@lupin9364 this varies for a couple of different reasons. The one thing that I think a lot of people make the mistake of - is thinking they always have to bet pot. - it also becomes player dependent (what type of players are you playing against) and also what stakes your playing. In theory, stakes shouldn’t matter, but in reality, higher stakes games will recognize players who play passively and will pounce on that regularly. It also depends on how many people you’re facing. If you are heads up - I’m more likely to continue with a bet - if you’re multi-way and oop I’m more likely to either do a small bet or x/C depending on spr of opponent. It does boil down to a few other factors to consider - but I hope this helps answer your question (my first word of advice is you don’t always have to bet pot!). But always keep in mind the largest bet you can make is usually on the river. When it comes to a higher stakes game for example, flop may be QJ4ss and you hold QQxx and your opponent holds JJxx (with one space) if spade falls on the turn and you check, they’ll recognize that faster and most likely bet - protecting their 2nd set, with a single spade blocker, but also recognizing that if you lead with a wrap draw, now a spade makes your wrap worthless. Ty for the question and ty for watching. I hope this gives you a little more insight!
@@ploprofessor Yes, nowadays people focus more on situation and board. So iam so wondering there is a lot of situation I cann't know how to do when my range is capped @@
These concepts apply to O8 as well, thankfully I've learned to fold whiffed flops. I'll need to explore the sizing of down bets in PLO, seems they are multi-purpose and can be used as a blocker that appears to be a pull or as a push that appears strong in exploitative way...is that an accurate interpretation?
Yes! Great question! You want to mix in your blocker bets with super butted hands so experienced players like myself have a hard time figuring out what you have and blocker bets / downsizing when you have the nuts will induce bigger bets! Lmk how it goes!
@@ploprofessor It's my luck that there were no lower limit straight PLO games this weekend. I live in Tx so I can't play online at 'reputable' sites & play money PLO is a joke. I watched a couple of past live streams from Tx card houses - volume off. I just followed the action, holdings, bet sizing & common scenarios. I learned: players seem terrible (or I'm still not understanding), the pots are HUGE, suck-outs are brutal, domination comes from position, hand selection, hand reading & mental resilience. There is so much to learn but I'm excited to play!
@@jennky8447 I'm glad that you are taking this journey into PLO with my tutorials! Keep watching and studying and i'm sure you'll end up on top! Ty for watching and ty for the comment!
@@ploprofessor yea I agree. Do u think the upswing course for plo is decent. Any suggestions on continuing education of plo. I have your stuff on repeat. Thank u
I personally have a system that you could argue works or in the long run has no impact….. if I’m stuck in a session, I refuse to run it twice unless it’s over a 5k pot. If I’m ahead in the session I agree to what the other player agrees to. Play smart! Ty for the comment and ty for watching
Lectures always seem like they're going to be long but yours always fly by because they're so interesting and well done. Thank you for putting quality Omaha content out there it is very hard to find.
Love the comment! Ty so much sir!
100% agree🤠
10:00 - If you have two blockers to a straight and nut flush. I'd say it's worth ripping it in. They'll be enough dead money in the pot to make it worth your while in the long run.
Professor, there is so much good stuff in your videos that my brain swells trying to absorb it all! 🤪
Hi Professor, I am playing from time to time PLO and to summarize it I am a losing player in this game. I was not able to understand this game, even after reading a book about it.I am training on the WSOP app and I can see results after following your principles and teaching, I have confidence I will do much better the next time I will play PLO and it is all thanks to you. I love your videos, you are awesome!
Ty so much! Love hearing these compliments and stories - you will have to follow up with me in a few weeks or a month and let know how much you’ve improved! Ty for watching!
Listen to your “running it twice” motto.
I understand why, and their great reasons.
However: If I put my opponent on a made hand, ie “trips, bottom straight completed”
And I’m on a flush draw, w top straight draw 1 gap- wouldn’t running it twice now be in my favor?
I also think, their might be a tale in people asking it- IK some do every all in- but paying attention to when they do not v do.
The more I think about it the more I’m in favor of running it once - that will help force you make proper decisions when calling an all in….
Idk, I don’t run it twice very often.
@@ploprofessor real quick, I was in a hand recently too: +340$ Preflop, and I flopped quad 99’s, get to the turn pot is $1500- MP leads out $500, i repot-all in.
He tanks for a moment, “if I call can we run it twice?” You betch ya!! The look of disgust on his face when he saw the quads 😂😂😂
Most people handle losing terribly. A ton of people are under rolled for games they play. Play games you can afford and learn to lose without tilting and there is no good reason to run it twice.
I just started to play alot more PLO from Holdem 1month ago and just watch the first 3 lessons! No more donk bets out of positions! hahaha! THIS IS REALLY GOOD STUFF!
If you have the proper equity in many situations its better to lead with a bet - maybe a value bet - all depends.... I'm hoping the videos are helping! Let us know in 2-4 weeks how its changed your play and hopefully made ya stop PUNTING! Ty for the comment and watching!
@@ploprofessor I've busted way too many hands making donk bets and played Aces like holdem exactly how you have presented with typical holdem players! What resonated with me especially was how to play with bottom/middle sets! I've learnt to fold a lot more now and starting to become more profitable and busting out less. Some times variance still get to you when short stack puts it all in and rivered you... 🙄
@@lawrencesun5925 glad I can help! I love hearing these stories!
nice content and fun lecture. all good and love to watch
Strong episode. At some point discuss recognition of when the table is going to switch from one to another and how to transition your game before everyone figures it out. I was in a game that was a bunch of action but in the course of 20-30 minutes 3 busted and 2 racked up and the players coming in were much much tighter and the game was practically dead until a couple got stuck, and a couple got stacks and it got back to "average".
I understand if playing in an unfamiliar room you may not be as quick to shift as you don't know the players.
That’s an excellent point as one of the things I preach to my students is table selection! I’ll bring that up in a future episode
Another gem! Good stuff!
Ty for the comment and Ty for watching! More to come!
I’ve run into some tight tables at mgm Detroit, but action is great overall
I never run it twice. It incentivizes opponents to get it in on a draw. Knowing they'll likely come out ahead due to fold equity.
I cant say i agree with your notions on running it twice
- running it twice does not change ev or hand equity, it simply minimizes variance
- if you are discussing situations where people are more likely to call big bets with insufficient equity such that your ev is favorable to them folding, then you want to encourage this behavior
- otoh if opps main leak is overfolding, then you want to increase that by refusing to run it twice such that your effective opponent fold % is higher
This is why generally pros will be fine with running it twice in games where you are forced to show down hands (as they are mining the nuts and want low/no equity calls) and will refuse in tighter more agressive games (where the primary overlay is opponents failing to realize their marginal equity)
Great point! I like it when it makes sense! I didn't think of those things and you may be the only person who has convinced me to possibly change my principle on running it twice! The other general rule that I typically use (and this may or may not be a good thing), is that if I'm stuck (which literally should have no bearing on equity), I rarely run it twice because I feel its the best way to get unstuck; for example getting it all in with 60% equity, I'd rather run it once and have a better chance of getting out of the whole....... I know, Poker shouldn't be about being stuck or unstuck, it should be about play, raw numbers, gut feel, and reading....... but we are all human! Ty for watching and ty for the comment on running it twice! I'll consider it and most likely bring it up in Episode 6 (as Episode 5 was made today)!
@@ploprofessor like you said it turns out to be personal preference. I actually prefer running it 2-3 times the more equity I have and once if I feel I am behind. Line of thought is if my equity is 80% I want to run it as many times as possible to realize as close to that 80% as possible. If I have 35% equity the more times I run it the more times I will lose hence I rather get lucky that one time.
I agree 100 percent
it doesn't simply minimize variance.hands don't take place in a vacuum. it gets less chips on the table and has people less tilted. if you handle losing better than your opponents you should run it once. Most players want to reduce their variance bc they play like shit when running bad. Why help them play better? I could maybe understand it against a super fishy player who prefers it to keep him happy, but against regs/pros especially one time them.
I play hold em at Tampa Hard Rock, it's definitely loose there.
I’ve found the NLHE at Hollywood hard rock is good for 1/3 and 5/10 - the 2/5 tends to be too tight!
Ty for the comment and ty for watching!
The typical fish will happily play looser if he expects to run it twice. You even said this yourself. But then you turn around and say that you want them to fold so they don't suck out on you. This is totally backwards. Let's do some simple math:
Suppose the pot is $500 and you go all in for $500 on the turn. Now suppose your opponent has 20% equity. Do you want him to call?
Case 1: He folds, you win $500
Case 2: He calls. The pot is now $1500. Rather than using equations, just pretend you run it 5 times and luck is average. (you win 4 of the run outs) You would win 1200 and he would get back 300. But you do need to remember you put in 500 more. But even so, your profit is 700, which is 40% more than when he folds.
So you absolutely DO want him to call even though he can suck out. By being amenable to running it twice, you encourage such bad calls. Furthermore, the fish are more inclined to be the folks who are uncomfortable when people refuse to run it twice. Finally, the game of PLO already has a ton of variance and running it twice reduces variance. This may not matter to one who has deep pockets, but many fish are playing over their heads. It would be a DISASTER to expose them to higher variance and bust them. Or, if they run super hot and decide to buy a new car, their poker bankroll does not even manage to come back to the field.
I like the comment and thought process!
your shirt was inside out in this episode.
You are the first person to notice that - before I recorded this episode I was doing some handy man work on a house that I own! It had paint or drywall mud on the other side so I turned it inside out before recording! All good though, after this episode I would bring a change of clothes with me to change into before filming! Ty for noticing, the comment and Ty for watching!
I can tell that the PLO Professor used to once be an actual professor! 🤗
Teaching has always been my strong suit; some things though, you can't get a degree in (sales and poker). haha!
Hello, how to handle top set on dynamic flop & spr high?
Ex: You have QQxx on QJ4ss OOP and SPR = 2 or 3 or 5.
But Turn could complete straight or flush.
I see people just x/c if turn straight or flush come.
If they have flush, you just have 20% top set vs flush. And They bet pot turn, we need 33% to call. Thanks
@@lupin9364 this varies for a couple of different reasons. The one thing that I think a lot of people make the mistake of - is thinking they always have to bet pot.
- it also becomes player dependent (what type of players are you playing against) and also what stakes your playing. In theory, stakes shouldn’t matter, but in reality, higher stakes games will recognize players who play passively and will pounce on that regularly.
It also depends on how many people you’re facing.
If you are heads up - I’m more likely to continue with a bet - if you’re multi-way and oop I’m more likely to either do a small bet or x/C depending on spr of opponent.
It does boil down to a few other factors to consider - but I hope this helps answer your question (my first word of advice is you don’t always have to bet pot!). But always keep in mind the largest bet you can make is usually on the river. When it comes to a higher stakes game for example, flop may be QJ4ss and you hold QQxx and your opponent holds JJxx (with one space) if spade falls on the turn and you check, they’ll recognize that faster and most likely bet - protecting their 2nd set, with a single spade blocker, but also recognizing that if you lead with a wrap draw, now a spade makes your wrap worthless.
Ty for the question and ty for watching.
I hope this gives you a little more insight!
@@ploprofessor Yes, nowadays people focus more on situation and board. So iam so wondering there is a lot of situation I cann't know how to do when my range is capped @@
These concepts apply to O8 as well, thankfully I've learned to fold whiffed flops. I'll need to explore the sizing of down bets in PLO, seems they are multi-purpose and can be used as a blocker that appears to be a pull or as a push that appears strong in exploitative way...is that an accurate interpretation?
Yes! Great question! You want to mix in your blocker bets with super butted hands so experienced players like myself have a hard time figuring out what you have and blocker bets / downsizing when you have the nuts will induce bigger bets! Lmk how it goes!
@@ploprofessor It's my luck that there were no lower limit straight PLO games this weekend. I live in Tx so I can't play online at 'reputable' sites & play money PLO is a joke. I watched a couple of past live streams from Tx card houses - volume off. I just followed the action, holdings, bet sizing & common scenarios. I learned: players seem terrible (or I'm still not understanding), the pots are HUGE, suck-outs are brutal, domination comes from position, hand selection, hand reading & mental resilience. There is so much to learn but I'm excited to play!
@@jennky8447 I'm glad that you are taking this journey into PLO with my tutorials! Keep watching and studying and i'm sure you'll end up on top! Ty for watching and ty for the comment!
so top set is really deceptive in PLO compared to wrap/flush draws!
Having trouble adjusting to 2/2 plo in Texas with 600 max buy and 2/5 with 1500 buy in any suggestions?
Have your played the plo at rivers illinois? Thoughts
I have - it’s a juicy game! Sometimes the 1/2 is better than the 2/5! Just depends!
@@ploprofessor yea I agree. Do u think the upswing course for plo is decent. Any suggestions on continuing education of plo. I have your stuff on repeat. Thank u
@@jsp07411 up swing is a good basis .
I do also offer 1 on 1 coaching. Shoot me a text if interested. 906.361.2509
I play in a no rake game we play 5 bucks per hour. I see no reason not to run it twice if you're a good player
If running it twice keeps the fish happy, do it!
I personally have a system that you could argue works or in the long run has no impact….. if I’m stuck in a session, I refuse to run it twice unless it’s over a 5k pot.
If I’m ahead in the session I agree to what the other player agrees to.
Play smart! Ty for the comment and ty for watching
doin god's work *****
Good infi
Never understood that if you lf you like playing tight, why are you playing PLO lol, can just nut pedal a game with much lower variance
tight table>>>i leave!
I bluff all night and make them fold average hands that beat me lol