Southgate bottled it. He always does. The momentum was in our favour after equalising, he should have been proactive with substitutions and gone for it. What does he do instead? He waits until the moment has gone and we've conceded, then takes off our best player, and tosses on Rashford and Grealish in desperation with seconds to go. Criminal.
Exactly right.. if southgate is so good why has he never managed a top champions league team? Even in the future he wont. Coz all the club chairman knows he is crap
Gareth Southgate owes his legacy to the luck of the draw. Imagine that England had tough teams in the last 16 or QF matches of each tournament..? Morocco and Croatia are achieving...and if either of them make the final, Southgate must go.
Morocco and Croatia aren't flukes a lot of naysayers said they were, they won because they played with the mentality to win with a coach that knew exactly what the team was good at. For me the biggest disappointment wasn't Kane's penalty miss, it was how the team seemed dead after that. It wasn't like France was puttting up a defensive masterclass (although Lloris was really good), the English attack just seemed dead and tired in the last few minutes.
@@CasualObserver9493 Well we didn't finish top of our 2018 WC group under Southgate either but we still went on to have an easier draw facing Colombia and then Sweden. Also Southgate has never been hit with bad injuries before a tournament or during one, something that certainly plagued Sven. He has been very fortunate in that respect. My opinion is if he was managing England back in those days we'd still have probably gone out at the same stages, as he's proven in this era, he still can't beat the big teams in KO games, unless there is a home advantage.
Bang on Simon. Southgate has taken this team as far as he could and well done to him for that. Someone else needs to come in and bring the ruthlessness that this team needs to finally close out a tournament win. Not good enough with the talent this squad has. If you look at other teams like Argentina or Croatia, they don't have as much talent on paper but their coach squeezes every extra ounce from each player such that they perform, as a collective, above expectations. England players, on the other hand, seem to play at or below expectations. That comes down to the coaching and strategy.
Exactly. Southgate is very similar to OGS at man United. He brough the camaraderie and feel good factor but Southgate, like OGS is not a great tactician nor won a trophy at the top level as a manager. He has done a good job, now it time for someone more ruthless, who will get the team over the line.
Just the English man I wanted to listen to. Spot on Simon, always talk sense. It is about winning, Mbappe made it clear in his interview, France came to win the World Cup as their main objective. The English press built the whole encounter to be about stopping Mbappe forgetting the world champions despite their injury concerns have other dangerous world class players ready to hurt them.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
Surely the better side is the one that can find the back of the net the most? Yes, we had more possesion, but most of it was passing it around our own half and back towards our own goal! We cannot rely on Penalties and generous referee's to get our goals all the time. If players tried staying upright around the goal area instead of diving for a penalty, they may actually get a chance to kick the ball in the net! These players are getting paid hundreds of thousands a week, and demand our adulation. So get out there and start earning it!
That's Sky Sports, BBC pundits & the Gary Neville, Gary Lineker crews who are going to say that. They are more concerned about Qatars human rights and lgbt BS than the country's football team
And thats the deciding factor! France have proven world class game winners , where as England have a squad of over hyped players who nobody outside of the UK rates highly, for every saka or rashford or bellingham there will always be a better French, Brazilian,portuguese , Spanish young player out there , English media wont tell you that though ;)
@Mike Carlton comment makes absolutely no sense ha. Who are the rest? An elite few? England are indisputably a good side. Average would be sides being knocked out in group stages.
I know....insane lol.... last week when they were both on talk sport known actually mentioned "it could be a Ronaldo Messi final and what a mouth watering prospect that would be" Simon done this legendary grin and someone on the thread picked up on it saying " Simon laughing at Kevin and his wall chart"
Why do people keep saying that England was a better side than France during the game, it's absolutely rubbish. They spent most of the time passing and holding the ball in their own half without creating that many really menacing chances, France on the other hand looked dangerous every time they got the ball and countered.
@@mccleandazza4618 true but this england team was the second best team in the World Cup, had they not had to play the world champs they would have won the World Cup this year same with Argentina last World Cup if they didn’t have to play France. Argentina played France the best last World Cup and england as you will see played France the best this World Cup but that’s how much France is above any other team, France played their d game and england was gifted two penalty kicks and still France comfortably won, France always let’s the other team dominate time of possession
Agreed Simon. So many similarities with 02 and 22 campaigns. In both, we had the game in our hands. But when it was in our hands, instead of a brave coach who makes the changes to win the game, they are passive. The cricket team are benefitting from a brave approach, with spectacular results. Gareth has took us from rubbish to good. But it's time for someone else to win us something, hopefully in my lifetime!!
That's not quite how I remember 2002. I know we went 1-0 but I seem to remember it was a pretty flat performance apart from that. This was definitely a more impressive performance, but unfortunately the same result
@@Klinsmann1985 In 2002 the English team was much stronger than the one now and had a much better match against probably the best Brazil of all time who lined up 3 golden balls at the same time, Rivaldo, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho and who had Kaka , Roberto carlos, and more... The match was very tight and the English almost took the Brazilians out if Rivaldo and Ronaldinho hadn't performed miracles on the pitch, especially Ronaldinho with his free kick but in short... In 2002 they were much better than your current team against a Brazil much better than our French team (yes I am French) L'angleterre en 2002 a était la seule équipe qui a donné du mal à ce brésil injouable qui a gagné la compétition, tout le monde disait que c'était la finale avant l'heure tellement les deux équipes étaient fortes
@@jimmyboe889 I was more thinking about the way the two games panned out. It felt like Brazil won that game quite comfortably even with 10 men. (Admittedly it was a long time ago so obviously I don't remember it that clearly!) This match France were hanging on for a period so it seems more like a game England should have won. In comparing the two teams I think there is an element of legend bias there. You're talking about players long since retired so already part of folk lore. Not disagreeing with anything you said about that incredible Brazil side but don't sell your french boys short. They could become only the third team in history to retain the world cup, despite a number of key players injured, including current world player of the year! I think this generation of French players will go down as one of the greatest in history, and I wouldn't be surprised if this English team is one of your main rivals for the next two or three tournaments.
You will see England win something, don't you worry. UEFA Nations League B is not very prestigious, but when you're in England's position any title is worth collecting.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
Think about this... The ONLY truly elite team we've beaten in a knockout match at a major tournament was Germany in 1966 - 56 YEARS ago! That's one scary fact.
Because he treats those games like league games , Southgate would rather have had 1-1 and lost on pens , because its an easier narrative than losing the game in extra time, so because of that outlook when we equalised he got us to hold rather than continue the all out attack, and France called his bluff
@@steve10 What do you think is more likely, England are always tactically wrong regardless of who the manager has been, players always underperform regardless of the players or in reality England aren't as good at football as they think they are? It would certainly be bizarre if the tactics were always wrong and the players always under-performed, especially when you consider all of the genuine top nations in the world have all been in multiple tournament finals, England on the other hand have only made finals when they've played at home.
As a Frenchmen!!, this is by far the best best thing ever!!!, I hope there is more the come, World cup 4522, maybe England might have a chance to break into the finals!!!, lol
@@leeelton6774 what's so bad about this also what's so funny, I have the right to select a team....if British carry on about the EPL being the best club in the world then people like me have the right to select a club, in this case it happens to be Liverpool.
I'm sure they put up a good fight for lgbtQ,now tell Harry to go back to England and wear one love ❤ armband, lol,exit well deserved 👏 gay nation should go and meet them at the airport and give them a warm welcome hugs and kisses 💋 hhhhh
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
i do not agree. We were just unfortunate to have to play the world cup holders anywhere but the final. France capable of beating anybody in this tournament as they'll surely prove this week
It's so nice for someone to say it how it is. For a team full of "superstars", why do they never turn up? Because they aren't the world class players they're talked up to be.
What you on about, any other England fan who says what he just said would be bombarded as being arrogant, but thankfully foreigners actually listen to Simon jordan who speaks for us all English fans being arrogant is the biggest myth in football
This is largely based on jealousy from WW2 as England was never conquered by Nazi Germany. Much of mainland Europe still hasn’t got over the fact that our rainy little island was never successfully invaded, coupled with the fact that our language is now the World’s primary method of communication. In terms of football we’re relatively humble.
I've watched quite a few of Simon's reactions/opinions on various things. And most of the time he can't help himself from mentioning that he used to own Crystal Palace. Darren picked up on that brilliantly, as well as his mannerism's & 'fancy' words. Brilliant! 👌🤣
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
The better side scores the most goals, France scored then sat back, Eng equalised and France upped their game again, Eng were not the better side, France were, they scored 2 brilliant goals.
Don't be daft . We were unlucky not to take a 2-1 lead. Not saying France would not have come back to win but this is football. Especially in close matches it just comes down to inches
In my 36 years England 99% of the time lose to the big teams. Germany, Italy, France, Argentina, Brazil. Spain 🤔 not as consistent as them 5 teams above. We just don't have that killer instinct unfortunately
I think it IS the killer instinct,though there were at least two or three squads in this World Cup boasting a wealth of talent to more than match England's.
It’s was Stones as well who should have helped in. Watch the goal again. Stones doing nothing. Not even covering the space in front of Maguire. Also, how the hell as Griezman got so much time and space to deliver?
England had twice the shots but half of them were off target. If it wasn’t for the penalties England wouldn’t have gotten any goals. They looked good coming down the pitch but by the last third they could only try to come in from the flanks and couldn’t create anything.
some of what you say is OBVIOUS [ You know the part ] but i kinda agree with you on the rest. With the players we have we should have created much more , been more imaginative and more dangerous
France were playing like Italy of old. Give the opposition the ball in their own half, defend the last third like demons and hit on the break. England passing the ball in triangles in their own half is exactly what France let them do. And France stopping England in the last third is what they set out to do. A Pirlo, a Modric or a Xavi would’ve seen what was happening and changed tactics and created something. England don’t have that player.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
@@stephenhill545 If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
Southgate not including Dan Byrne ,who is leading the best defence in the premier league and Tamori who won seria A and plays in the champions league every week , in place for Harry Maguire? This alone is a shocking disgrace!! Phillips in the squad when he is not playing for his team every week like Maguire? This jobs for the boys crap is a shambles and something England fans have been calling out for years and who is talking about this ? Southgate literally looks like a rabbit in the headlights when it comes to crunch time every time . Harvey Elliot is good enough for klopp but not for Southgate? Grealish is good enough for Pep but not good enough for Southgate? Who does he think he is ?
I always felt France were in control and could up the pressure at will, but they were just playing in a very calm way. They were missing 3 of their best players in Pogba, Benzema and Kante. We were playing defensively and trying to nick a goal.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
SO so true. If we don't win we've failed. It's 56 years since we've won anything. Simon is spot on. England will never win a tournament unfortunately - otherwise we would have done so by now!
What are you talking about? It took Spain 80 years to win their first world cup and they weren't saying "we're gonna win it this time" every time they had a good team, nor were they saying "we'll never win it" every time they'd get knocked out. The Netherlands and Portugal have never won it and yet the Netherlands went to the finals and to the semifinals more times than England did (3 times to 1 and 5 times to 3, respectively) - but they're not making a fuss about it. They know that's not how the World Cup works. You never know for sure that you're gonna win it, even with the best team and the best tactics, sometimes you need a bit of luck and the coin doesn't fall on your side. You take it, learn from it, and go back next time knowing that the odds are *always* against you - whether you're Germany, France, Spain, Brazil, Italy, Argentina, or England. England have the most talented national team in the world rn (along with maybe France and Portugal). 2026-2030 will probably be their best chance since 1966 but with this entitled-winner-whiny-loser mindset, I'm afraid it won't happen
It's the same every tournament. As a seeded team we sail thru the qualifiers and group games then get found out in the knock outs. I've said for the past year and a half that if we couldn't win even one of the last two tournaments we've got no chance on neutral ground
The 2nd June 2002 was the last time England beat a Top tier team at a major tournament. World Cup and Euro Champs. 1-0 v Argentina. This is latest of about 5 Golden Generations. Commentary at the weekend called Argentina eternal chokers. It’s coming home!(again, really). Spot on Simon.
The "at least" mentality is dangerous, trust me. I'm from South Africa. Our country was once a power house of African football in the 90s, but now it's a complete disaster to the point that we don't even qualify for continental tournaments. The "at least" mentality is so dangerous that it could influence the players as well.
@@gencemosia9355 someone laughed at me when I said the SA top flight is equivalent to the English league 2. The delusion in thinking SA is still producing good talent is.....👎.. Your comment is spot on.
@@mccleandazza4618 RSA won the 1996 AFCON (1st year they were eligible to participate due to apartheid) Almost the whole squad were playing for clubs in Europe including Quinton Fortune (ManUtd) Mark Fish & Shaun Bartlett (Charlton) Lucas Radebe & Phil Masinga (Leeds Utd) Eric Tinkler (Barnsley) Andre Arendse (Fulham) & many more. Next generation was pretty good too with Steven Pienaar, Benni McCarthy & Co, but failed to achieve much.
Absolutely bang on Simon. England have not beaten any of the giants of international football in a knock out round in a world cup since 1966 which is bleedin' absurd
Saka and Foden were literally the only creative players who went past players like Mbappe...problem is lack of freedom to be creative for quite possibly some of the most creative players in world football
1:- It's only England fans that expected to win that game, fans worldwide and the bookies all expected France to win that game. 2:- England had more possession than France and more shots on goal that France. 3:- England's best players are young and still improving Frances' best players are the reigning world champions. 4:- Is anyone gonna give some credit to Southgate for subbing on Mount who got a penalty when England needed it most?
The is a reason Jose, Pep and klopp are different. They dont teach players football. They teach the players how to Win. Add Ancelotti and TT in this list. These 5 are the one England NT team needs to overcome the biggest mental Block.
Simon Jordan talking absolute sense. Please can I propose a major change in how we manage and play our international football in England. Look at the England cricket team now. A little over a year ago they were hammered in Australia and then the West Indies. England we dreadful. Since the change of coach and captain a new ethos on how we play the game has come in and has produced startling results. England beat New Zealand and South Africa playing this new attacking at all costs game last summer and now have won (today) a test series in Pakistan. Which by the way is amazing. Same players but a new direction. The England football team needs to change its attitude to how it plays the game and it needs to get metaphorically on the front foot and literally go for it in matches. England to me look ordinary for too long in matches and seem petrified to try things. There has to be a change. I know cricket is a completely different game to football; however, look at the results. Change the attitude - take away the fear of losing and galvanise the players into becoming confident in winning. If you always do as you’ve always done then you’ll only ever get what you’ve always got. CHANGE that is what is needed.
Gareth has reached his ceiling I’m afraid, about time we get a manager to kick us on to the next level. Thank you Gareth for what you’ve done, but it’s time for a change
The script was written from the minute we knew we would face the French, it was all about how would or could we cope with Mbappe, all the focus was on Walker v Mbappe. Not saying don't mark him, not saying whenever possible double up on him, and definitely not saying get a challenge in on him so he knows he is in a game. But there has to be balance, otherwise as 'we' proved we go into a vital game on the back foot, if we had scored first, we wouldn't have gone for the second or third. The cricket team has shown what happens when someone is brave enough to say, just ho out and play, show what you can do, and unless you make a complete and utter balls up, your in the team for the next game. The subs with the exception if Mount were pointless, Sterling shouldn't have gone back, far too much on his mind, Grealish far too late, and overloading one wing with Grealish and Foden, not something Southgate has figured out
Croatia has a population of Under 4 million people and they have gone further in the last two world cups than us. They had to contend with a raft of retirements (Subasic, Rakitic, Mandzukic) and still they hurtle on. Says it all.
I like Simon’s take. Standards should always be high. People should stop accepting anything less than winning a trophy. England should be about winning a tournament.
But we haven't won one since '66...that's like saying Tottenham should be comparing themselves to City or Chelsea. We're talking about different levels here
@@Stinkmeaner420 Spurs don't have the resources of City or Chelsea, your comparison here makes no sense. It's more akin to Man City not competing for the league with what they have. The English league system is by far the best-funded in the world, and the clubs are the richest in the world with the best facilities and it's a large nation of football lovers. To have a record of 2 major finals with one win is appalling.
@@BigDoniel that's great and all that we have funding, but let's be serious. Where is most of the fundamental talent coming from? Cos it's not from England. Look at the hype that saka, grealish and foden get. None of them are world class, else they would be chased by real madrid and barca, along with the likes of vini jr, mbappe and håland. Yet the english media bigs them up so much. Even bellingham. Ffs, the boy is 19! Who's to say he don't end up like dele alli, yet he's already being touted as future England skipper. We need to face the reality of English football. We attract talent cos of the money, nothing more, nothing less
The difference between Deschamps and Southgate. No Kante and Pogba and they still habe found a way in this WC. Gareth had a full squad at his disposal. He has done well but now he has reached his Peak with this talented group
True, in the last 3 tournaments we have not beaten any top teams. We beat Germany in the Euro ‘s who were very poor as the world cups either side of the Euro’s have shown and we lost to Italy who failed to even qualify for the World Cup.
England need to get off their knees and politics and concentrate on football. France were more positive and had help from the ref. Missed a pen, massive chance lost. This competition has been poor.
Simon got it spot on,we are a middle of the road and always have been,4 wins out of 24 in southgates reign against decent teams sums him up,we are just not good enough and never have been,they really had an unbelievable opportunity to win this one but as usual and realistically they were never going to based on their history.
@@GIBBO4182 What is your point, mate. USA, Iran, Wales and Senegal are top 20 sides. England should not be losing to any of those teams. Mexico has one if it's worse teams in history and they are ranked 13th. Beating top 20 teams when you're England is not a great achievement.
@@GIBBO4182 Theb you're an i.diot. France had half of their starters missing and beat you. This is the deepest England team in living memory. France lost their starting LB, their entire midfield' starting striker and support striker all before a ball was kicked. What kills England is poor mentality like you're and an average coach.
@@GIBBO4182 Ifyou believe that those squads were better than this one then you are s.tupid.England HAD a great starting 11 then and no depth. You also had a mediocre manager like bow. You had bigger names not better teams. You're making excuses for your failure and then saying that you don't accept mediocrity?
Gibbons,really you are clutching at straws there mate,what about Belgium twice in the same tournament the mighty Croatia,an average Italian side at home in a final?we are and always have been serial losers,get use to it
France and England were probably about equal in that game. However in the fine margins, they have a manager in Deschamps who was proactive enough to make the right changes at the right time to get the job done. Southgate can't do that. We said exactly the same when Mancini's Italy side beat us in the Euros Final. Southgate is a safe pair of hands, he rebuilt the team and gave us good foundations. But he'll never take us further
@@lfcspectre4335 LFC Spectre came out the womb and the doctor didn't need to cut the umbilical cord he did it himself with pure 💯 sharp facts = Top LAD Proper Clobber God Bless
@@sammybeck4855 Sir Sammy Beck knight of the realm the queen bowed down to him cos she knows the only thing he was spitting were 💯 straight up facts = Top LAD Proper Clobber God Bless
No offence to Mount or Sterling but they aren’t on form and he knows they aren’t… a better manager will put favouritism aside and win us these moments .
It’s very easy for any opposition coach when playing England now; just send decent crosses into the box and eventually John Stones will nod off and not keep up with the attacking player receiving. We need alternatives in defence, it’s cost us 2 tournaments now. That’s not Southgate’s fault, Stones and Maguire are the best he has. Unfortunately their best is not quite good enough.
Not a big England fan but I do follow the team. But as a big Arsenal fan the word ‘potential’ is haunting. We had so many sides that were labelled as title-winning sides in three years time or something but it never happened. I just hope England deliver the next Euros bc otherwise idk if they ever will win something.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
We crumble under pressure. We appeared scared at times of France. It's a mindset that's needed and unfortunately we don't have it. We can beat average. We can't beat good teams.
France terrified? LOL. We've been playing whithout Pogba, Benzema, Kanté, Kimpembé, L. Hernandez, Nkunku and still you lost. Some respect for your opponent please. Arrogance got punished.
We lost to a French team missing potentially 4 starters in Nnkunku, Benzema, Pogba and Kante whilst simultaneously fielding our best possible 11 with a ridiculously strong bench too. We will not win a tournament until we get a manager capable of attacking a match head on with the quality we have.
i think we are often unlucky. In this game the moments were all against us. The early goal left us chasing. The penalty that we never got. Even their first goal seemed bit illegal and that Pickford was unsighted was very unlucky. It's happened so many times. The German goal in 90 deflecting and loopng over Shilts. The hand ball in 86. Wasn't there a deflection v Brazil in 2002?
I have a great respect for Simon. When the pre-Match talk was there in all TV Shows , most English commentators ( i mean those who supported England to win ) were more worried about the French attack , particularly Mbappe and Griezmann and they said much of containing the french attack for most of the time. Their projection of the English attack was only after speaking of the French attack . Some commentators even called for a penalty to decide the outcome. That means you placed the faith on Jordan or Pope to come to your penultimate rescue with an assumption that Lorris shall make the mistake , and the rest of 90 mins + Additional time were already decided to be on the defensive . In contrast, the french, were confident of their attack . They always had the faith that Mbappe or Griezmann would find the nets With a defensive mindset ends with securing a draw is the limit of victory , whereas , it is always a calculated attack , built on strategy of assault is the path to the victory . Despite the fact that the french attack was superior and more decisive , England played fantastically well most of the game and gave in everything , But the french were more confident. I think that confidence is going to multiply and is to be carried on till the end of the final. Based on this confidence and the abilities , i say this before the event ; Look for the match of France vs Morocco. France is going to have the first goal and when the first goal has come for France , Morrocon defence is going to fall apart and a blood bath of goals is likely to follow .
"Saka never seems to beat a player" Apart from the pen he won and the 6 times he was fouled with only 3 given. Saka was outstanding in parts. Best watch the highlights again Simon. The one two with Bellingham to win the pen was sweet.
With France defence under the cosh and Mbappe reasonably quiet why didn't Southgate introduce TAA. Accurate balls into the box would have caused havoc.
CRacking stuff from Simon J as ever. If only there were more young men like him in charge of stuff this country might not be such a catastrophic mess. 🎉
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
@@thomasfoster1899 Go one, then, entertain us with your own fascinating take on world football! I'm sure the TalkSport execs will be falling over themselves to put you on the radio instead of Simon J 😂
England have always had a mental problem.. When will they realize this game we call football is a psychological game. If they believed that was a Wales team wearing a French kit we would've won 4-0
Saka taken off? Grealish brought on for one minute? Bizarre! Simon is absolutely right on Southgate we always start so slow, he has always been reactive not proactive. That’s the difference between winners and loser’s!
The USA has a term, Monday morning quarterback as we have hindsight. They also have the term 'clutch' which is the difference between a good player and a great player. Southgate has had six years. If it was going to happen it would have.
I agree. He has improved the England squad but he has reached his apex. England need a new manager. The two teams were quite evenly matched and it seems to me England lack that killer instinct that great teams possess. Missing that penalty was purely a psychological issue.
Is it just me or do England look better when we pick up the pace and go at teams. We look pedestrian half the time knocking the ball sideways and backwards at the half way line, that just lets you're opponents get back in position and set up. France looked all over the place when we attacked with some sort of determination!
I agree with what you are saying. pussyfooting around playing triangles in your own half is not going to get you anywhere. As a hopeless amateur defender, even in pub games, I felt the attackers were the most dangerous at pace down the centre. I think England play like this because they do not trust themselves to stop fast counter attacking teams, they act apprehensive from the off. I read that Maguire and Stones passed the ball over fifty times between them in one game. Southgate is timed beyond belief using his subs.
Once again we failed, we only beat those teams who any 11 England players would beat 99/100 games but once again as soon as we met a good team we failed though lack of ideas, lack of skill and lack of Managers ability to recognise when changes were needed and to understand what to do. When the pressure is on we are a disorganised mess. Sorry but Southgate not up to the job at world champions level
Southgate bottled it. He always does. The momentum was in our favour after equalising, he should have been proactive with substitutions and gone for it. What does he do instead? He waits until the moment has gone and we've conceded, then takes off our best player, and tosses on Rashford and Grealish in desperation with seconds to go. Criminal.
Taking Saka off was a huge mistake. The French defence were panicking every time he got the ball.
Exactly right.. if southgate is so good why has he never managed a top champions league team? Even in the future he wont. Coz all the club chairman knows he is crap
Everytime France attacked for a prolonged period they scored. France was only in first year the entire game.
@@mh9tv He wouldn't even get a job in the Premier League.
Is there really anyone out there who didn't know that before the world cup started?
Gareth Southgate owes his legacy to the luck of the draw.
Imagine that England had tough teams in the last 16 or QF matches of each tournament..?
Morocco and Croatia are achieving...and if either of them make the final, Southgate must go.
I've also thought that.
Morocco and Croatia aren't flukes a lot of naysayers said they were, they won because they played with the mentality to win with a coach that knew exactly what the team was good at. For me the biggest disappointment wasn't Kane's penalty miss, it was how the team seemed dead after that. It wasn't like France was puttting up a defensive masterclass (although Lloris was really good), the English attack just seemed dead and tired in the last few minutes.
Imagine if he was managing in 2014. Like Hodgson he wouldn't have got out of the group either because there were 2 big teams in that group.
@@CasualObserver9493 👍100% agree and also in that Euro 2004 game v France David Beckham missed a penalty.
@@CasualObserver9493 Well we didn't finish top of our 2018 WC group under Southgate either but we still went on to have an easier draw facing Colombia and then Sweden.
Also Southgate has never been hit with bad injuries before a tournament or during one, something that certainly plagued Sven. He has been very fortunate in that respect.
My opinion is if he was managing England back in those days we'd still have probably gone out at the same stages, as he's proven in this era, he still can't beat the big teams in KO games, unless there is a home advantage.
Bang on Simon. Southgate has taken this team as far as he could and well done to him for that. Someone else needs to come in and bring the ruthlessness that this team needs to finally close out a tournament win. Not good enough with the talent this squad has. If you look at other teams like Argentina or Croatia, they don't have as much talent on paper but their coach squeezes every extra ounce from each player such that they perform, as a collective, above expectations. England players, on the other hand, seem to play at or below expectations. That comes down to the coaching and strategy.
Bang on mate that comment
Exactly. Southgate is very similar to OGS at man United. He brough the camaraderie and feel good factor but Southgate, like OGS is not a great tactician nor won a trophy at the top level as a manager. He has done a good job, now it time for someone more ruthless, who will get the team over the line.
The squad has improved the manager hasn't
i don’t think coaching makes you miss a penalty
Argentina have a better team then England tho
Just the English man I wanted to listen to. Spot on Simon, always talk sense. It is about winning, Mbappe made it clear in his interview, France came to win the World Cup as their main objective. The English press built the whole encounter to be about stopping Mbappe forgetting the world champions despite their injury concerns have other dangerous world class players ready to hurt them.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
@@minaminx Nonsense, got awarded 2 penalties and still lost.
@@LostSpider clearly you never actually played football. bless
@@minaminx lol, really? most people have played football on their life, it is the most commun sport in the world, what a bold statement you make
@@LostSpider i stand by my statement
Simon spot on. Stop applauding mediocrity
If southgate has been mediocre then I'd love to hear your classification on the likes of Hodgson, Capello, Mclaren and so on...
He has been mediocre. He has lost every game against a top 10 team for the last 8 years.
@MrAnotherworld23 those lot were up against formidable opponents we a not very good England team.. tit
Excellent awesome synchronicity of the kneeling of the knee. Well done lads.
@@LolcowAdmirer How does losing against a TOP team make you mediocre? Again I ask you about the names I just mentioned, how do you classify them then?
"We were the better side" we gonna hear this statement for the next year and half at least WTF
Surely the better side is the one that can find the back of the net the most? Yes, we had more possesion, but most of it was passing it around our own half and back towards our own goal! We cannot rely on Penalties and generous referee's to get our goals all the time. If players tried staying upright around the goal area instead of diving for a penalty, they may actually get a chance to kick the ball in the net! These players are getting paid hundreds of thousands a week, and demand our adulation. So get out there and start earning it!
Yep, same old pathetic England.
@@stevebird7265 Well said. the French left the ball to England, which was a mistake because they are not a great defensive team.
That's Sky Sports, BBC pundits & the Gary Neville, Gary Lineker crews who are going to say that. They are more concerned about Qatars human rights and lgbt BS than the country's football team
@@stevebird7265 Spot on.
France seemed like they could score everytime they wanted/needed
Exactly, English fans are deluded. They have a decent team, but compared to the rest, they are average.
And thats the deciding factor! France have proven world class game winners , where as England have a squad of over hyped players who nobody outside of the UK rates highly, for every saka or rashford or bellingham there will always be a better French, Brazilian,portuguese , Spanish young player out there , English media wont tell you that though ;)
BS - you cannot read a game clearly
@@mikecarlton9000 we don't over hype that's the press what's your country pal ?
@Mike Carlton comment makes absolutely no sense ha. Who are the rest? An elite few? England are indisputably a good side. Average would be sides being knocked out in group stages.
"Martin Keown's ridiculous wall chart" 😂
I know....insane lol.... last week when they were both on talk sport known actually mentioned "it could be a Ronaldo Messi final and what a mouth watering prospect that would be" Simon done this legendary grin and someone on the thread picked up on it saying " Simon laughing at Kevin and his wall chart"
Well i bet a lot on Uruguay to win World Cup.
Best comment 😂
Couldn’t agree more! This guy love or hate him he speaks sense!!
Your wife said the same thing to me
@@rarebreed748 it’s true your name 😭😭🐁
@@markharte4128 don't get angry with me, blame yourself, I guess you have a picture of Simon on your phone screen
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@@markharte4128 that shut you up
Why do people keep saying that England was a better side than France during the game, it's absolutely rubbish. They spent most of the time passing and holding the ball in their own half without creating that many really menacing chances, France on the other hand looked dangerous every time they got the ball and countered.
That's true
France was the first game that we weren’t almost assured to win, and we lost it.
Always the way
Italy
Croatia
Belgium
France
Anytime they play a decent team they fold
I’m used to it after all these years .😢
OR---Franced was the only team that gave us match . i.e REAL COMPETITION.
France was playing with a
Midfield that played together for the first time in a tournament. No Kante No Pogba.
@@mccleandazza4618 true but this england team was the second best team in the World Cup, had they not had to play the world champs they would have won the World Cup this year same with Argentina last World Cup if they didn’t have to play France. Argentina played France the best last World Cup and england as you will see played France the best this World Cup but that’s how much France is above any other team, France played their d game and england was gifted two penalty kicks and still France comfortably won, France always let’s the other team dominate time of possession
Agreed Simon. So many similarities with 02 and 22 campaigns. In both, we had the game in our hands. But when it was in our hands, instead of a brave coach who makes the changes to win the game, they are passive. The cricket team are benefitting from a brave approach, with spectacular results. Gareth has took us from rubbish to good. But it's time for someone else to win us something, hopefully in my lifetime!!
That's not quite how I remember 2002. I know we went 1-0 but I seem to remember it was a pretty flat performance apart from that. This was definitely a more impressive performance, but unfortunately the same result
@@Klinsmann1985 In 2002 the English team was much stronger than the one now and had a much better match against probably the best Brazil of all time who lined up 3 golden balls at the same time, Rivaldo, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho and who had Kaka , Roberto carlos, and more... The match was very tight and the English almost took the Brazilians out if Rivaldo and Ronaldinho hadn't performed miracles on the pitch, especially Ronaldinho with his free kick but in short... In 2002 they were much better than your current team against a Brazil much better than our French team (yes I am French)
L'angleterre en 2002 a était la seule équipe qui a donné du mal à ce brésil injouable qui a gagné la compétition, tout le monde disait que c'était la finale avant l'heure tellement les deux équipes étaient fortes
@@jimmyboe889 I was more thinking about the way the two games panned out. It felt like Brazil won that game quite comfortably even with 10 men. (Admittedly it was a long time ago so obviously I don't remember it that clearly!) This match France were hanging on for a period so it seems more like a game England should have won. In comparing the two teams I think there is an element of legend bias there. You're talking about players long since retired so already part of folk lore. Not disagreeing with anything you said about that incredible Brazil side but don't sell your french boys short. They could become only the third team in history to retain the world cup, despite a number of key players injured, including current world player of the year! I think this generation of French players will go down as one of the greatest in history, and I wouldn't be surprised if this English team is one of your main rivals for the next two or three tournaments.
You will see England win something, don't you worry. UEFA Nations League B is not very prestigious, but when you're in England's position any title is worth collecting.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
Think about this... The ONLY truly elite team we've beaten in a knockout match at a major tournament was Germany in 1966 - 56 YEARS ago! That's one scary fact.
And the ball didn’t cross the line,Germany were robbed!!!
@@stephenherron8780 Even with that goal disqualified, England still would have won, it just would have been 3-2 instead of 4-2.
Morrocco have won more games against top opposition in the last 3 weeks than England have since 1966.... and if VAR existed back then......
@@questionmaker5666 did that 'goal' not take it to extra time?
@@questionmaker5666 Germany wouldn't have been chasing an equaliser when Hurst scored the 4th. All ifs and buts though.
Simon Jordan …has just explained how I feel about this World Cup,thank you.
The game was shocking
England not playing attacking football with that squad they have is shocking Southgate needs humbling
Problem is, play too attacking and you expose Maguire...
We scored 13 goals and missed one penalty in five games.
6 goals against Iran (who were elsewhere with their heads) and 3 against Wales, the weakest team in this competition.
@@richardhorrocks1460 against powerhouses of Iran, USA, Sengal and Wales.... stunning.
He needs to fucking resign
Simon on point. 24 games against opponents ranked in top 10 under Southgate and only 4 wins in those games...
Because he treats those games like league games , Southgate would rather have had 1-1 and lost on pens , because its an easier narrative than losing the game in extra time, so because of that outlook when we equalised he got us to hold rather than continue the all out attack, and France called his bluff
@@steve10 ole Gunnar southgate
Games outside of tournaments are irrelevant. Friendlies and glorified friendles.
Because England just aren't that good..... its simple
@@steve10 What do you think is more likely, England are always tactically wrong regardless of who the manager has been, players always underperform regardless of the players or in reality England aren't as good at football as they think they are?
It would certainly be bizarre if the tactics were always wrong and the players always under-performed, especially when you consider all of the genuine top nations in the world have all been in multiple tournament finals, England on the other hand have only made finals when they've played at home.
Simon Jordan is bang on once again
As a Frenchmen!!, this is by far the best best thing ever!!!, I hope there is more the come, World cup 4522, maybe England might have a chance to break into the finals!!!, lol
Mate. It's coming home in 4522!
Ryan the French Liverpool fan 😂
@@leeelton6774 what's so bad about this also what's so funny, I have the right to select a team....if British carry on about the EPL being the best club in the world then people like me have the right to select a club, in this case it happens to be Liverpool.
“A good fight isn’t when you put-up Jim, a good fight is when you win, and we put up a lot of good fights.” - Simon Jordan with the exclamation point!
I'm sure they put up a good fight for lgbtQ,now tell Harry to go back to England and wear one love ❤ armband, lol,exit well deserved 👏 gay nation should go and meet them at the airport and give them a warm welcome hugs and kisses 💋 hhhhh
Story of English football.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
Think what you will about Simon Jordan but he’s ALMOST always balanced. “It’s easy to fire someone but who do you replace him with?”… very well said.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
“Crystal Palace, a club I used to own” hahahah Darren Farley anyone
I literally watched the Farley one just before this and thought exactly the same 😂😂
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6:12
"Crystal Palace, I club I bankrupt"
I'm still laughing at the Commentators remarks on the night.
"We needed Gary Lineker but got Chris Waddle!" 😂
that was a gooden but bit cruel on Chris
Stop making excuses. With the talent in the England squad this can be called nothing but a failure.
You could easily say the same of the golden generation
Overrated QF level players
i do not agree. We were just unfortunate to have to play the world cup holders anywhere but the final. France capable of beating anybody in this tournament as they'll surely prove this week
It's so nice for someone to say it how it is. For a team full of "superstars", why do they never turn up? Because they aren't the world class players they're talked up to be.
Who is the superstar in the english team?overated average players
@@mandlaveyi3411 Exactly my point
@@henrik4173 Exactly my point
@@mandlaveyi3411 who is the superstar in the Moroccan team ?
Yet, they're in the semi final.
Team work not overated players like England
The one Englishman not totally corrupted by blinding arrogance. Credit to his clear vision, this English team could've achieved more.
What you on about, any other England fan who says what he just said would be bombarded as being arrogant, but thankfully foreigners actually listen to Simon jordan who speaks for us all
English fans being arrogant is the biggest myth in football
Southgate falls into the same category though. Honest as the day's long.
@@bluesEvanskro No it isn't. When the whole planet thinks you are arrogant as well as ignorant, take it as a sign that you are arrogant and ignorant.
@@goattm2 nope it’s a myth end of, and you can’t convince me otherwise
This is largely based on jealousy from WW2 as England was never conquered by Nazi Germany. Much of mainland Europe still hasn’t got over the fact that our rainy little island was never successfully invaded, coupled with the fact that our language is now the World’s primary method of communication.
In terms of football we’re relatively humble.
First time hearing this dude talk and damn,Farley's impression is bang on😂😂😂
I've watched quite a few of Simon's reactions/opinions on various things. And most of the time he can't help himself from mentioning that he used to own Crystal Palace. Darren picked up on that brilliantly, as well as his mannerism's & 'fancy' words. Brilliant! 👌🤣
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
The better side scores the most goals, France scored then sat back, Eng equalised and France upped their game again, Eng were not the better side, France were, they scored 2 brilliant goals.
Giroud could’ve scored another goal and dembele could’ve scored
@@IbrahimAli-po1hd rabiot too had a good chance
Don't be daft . We were unlucky not to take a 2-1 lead. Not saying France would not have come back to win but this is football. Especially in close matches it just comes down to inches
In my 36 years England 99% of the time lose to the big teams.
Germany, Italy, France, Argentina, Brazil.
Spain 🤔 not as consistent as them 5 teams above.
We just don't have that killer instinct unfortunately
It's not the killer instinct, it's the players.
I think it IS the killer instinct,though there were at least two or three squads in this World Cup boasting a wealth of talent to more than match England's.
Tell that to Danny Mills 😂😂😂
Danny mills enuf said
Spot on 😂😂😂😂😂
Harry Maguire second goal for France was one of his best. He never let's me down 👏🤣🤣
It’s was Stones as well who should have helped in. Watch the goal again.
Stones doing nothing. Not even covering the space in front of Maguire.
Also, how the hell as Griezman got so much time and space to deliver?
@@johndixon7007 Imagine if Trent was on the pitch for that Griezmann cross instead of Walker, he'd be crucified.
@@johndixon7007 He's overrated because he barely has to defend at City as they have the ball the whole game. When he's tested he's not solid at all.
Was waiting for Simons reaction
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England had twice the shots but half of them were off target. If it wasn’t for the penalties England wouldn’t have gotten any goals. They looked good coming down the pitch but by the last third they could only try to come in from the flanks and couldn’t create anything.
some of what you say is OBVIOUS [ You know the part ] but i kinda agree with you on the rest. With the players we have we should have created much more , been more imaginative and more dangerous
France played a back 5 and England couldn't break them down, like Belgium in 2018.
France were playing like Italy of old. Give the opposition the ball in their own half, defend the last third like demons and hit on the break. England passing the ball in triangles in their own half is exactly what France let them do. And France stopping England in the last third is what they set out to do. A Pirlo, a Modric or a Xavi would’ve seen what was happening and changed tactics and created something. England don’t have that player.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
@@stephenhill545 If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
Southgate not including Dan Byrne ,who is leading the best defence in the premier league and Tamori who won seria A and plays in the champions league every week , in place for Harry Maguire? This alone is a shocking disgrace!!
Phillips in the squad when he is not playing for his team every week like Maguire?
This jobs for the boys crap is a shambles and something England fans have been calling out for years and who is talking about this ?
Southgate literally looks like a rabbit in the headlights when it comes to crunch time every time .
Harvey Elliot is good enough for klopp but not for Southgate?
Grealish is good enough for Pep but not good enough for Southgate?
Who does he think he is ?
I always felt France were in control and could up the pressure at will, but they were just playing in a very calm way. They were missing 3 of their best players in Pogba, Benzema and Kante. We were playing defensively and trying to nick a goal.
Spot on as always Simon. Love listening to this man! 👏
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
I've literally been waiting since Saturday for this 😂
Absolutely spot on from Simon once again.
SO so true. If we don't win we've failed. It's 56 years since we've won anything. Simon is spot on. England will never win a tournament unfortunately - otherwise we would have done so by now!
Yup.
What are you talking about? It took Spain 80 years to win their first world cup and they weren't saying "we're gonna win it this time" every time they had a good team, nor were they saying "we'll never win it" every time they'd get knocked out. The Netherlands and Portugal have never won it and yet the Netherlands went to the finals and to the semifinals more times than England did (3 times to 1 and 5 times to 3, respectively) - but they're not making a fuss about it. They know that's not how the World Cup works.
You never know for sure that you're gonna win it, even with the best team and the best tactics, sometimes you need a bit of luck and the coin doesn't fall on your side. You take it, learn from it, and go back next time knowing that the odds are *always* against you - whether you're Germany, France, Spain, Brazil, Italy, Argentina, or England.
England have the most talented national team in the world rn (along with maybe France and Portugal). 2026-2030 will probably be their best chance since 1966 but with this entitled-winner-whiny-loser mindset, I'm afraid it won't happen
Never? Lol you have no idea what will happen in 10 years or 20 or 40. Get a grip.
@@ArturoSubutex spot on
If money and investment does to english football what it has done to the olympic team then the skys the limit..eventually..
SJ nails it! 👍
It's the same every tournament. As a seeded team we sail thru the qualifiers and group games then get found out in the knock outs. I've said for the past year and a half that if we couldn't win even one of the last two tournaments we've got no chance on neutral ground
Absolutely spot on!!
The 2nd June 2002 was the last time England beat a Top tier team at a major tournament. World Cup and Euro Champs. 1-0 v Argentina. This is latest of about 5 Golden Generations. Commentary at the weekend called Argentina eternal chokers. It’s coming home!(again, really). Spot on Simon.
The "at least" mentality is dangerous, trust me. I'm from South Africa. Our country was once a power house of African football in the 90s, but now it's a complete disaster to the point that we don't even qualify for continental tournaments. The "at least" mentality is so dangerous that it could influence the players as well.
Power house ?????? When lol
@@mccleandazza4618 They won a continental title in the 90s. When last did England win anything, again?🤔
@@gencemosia9355 someone laughed at me when I said the SA top flight is equivalent to the English league 2. The delusion in thinking SA is still producing good talent is.....👎..
Your comment is spot on.
@@mccleandazza4618 in the 90s, they were genuinely one of the best FT in Africa back then.
@@mccleandazza4618 RSA won the 1996 AFCON (1st year they were eligible to participate due to apartheid) Almost the whole squad were playing for clubs in Europe including Quinton Fortune (ManUtd) Mark Fish & Shaun Bartlett (Charlton) Lucas Radebe & Phil Masinga (Leeds Utd) Eric Tinkler (Barnsley) Andre Arendse (Fulham) & many more. Next generation was pretty good too with Steven Pienaar, Benni McCarthy & Co, but failed to achieve much.
Absolutely bang on Simon. England have not beaten any of the giants of international football in a knock out round in a world cup since 1966 which is bleedin' absurd
Saka and Foden were literally the only creative players who went past players like Mbappe...problem is lack of freedom to be creative for quite possibly some of the most creative players in world football
Saka created all our opportunities
Saka was England's best player but foden was anonymous
How many Maradona's do you want us to have? Two is enough in a team
Maddison is the most in form player in the league, he played Mount ahead of him again. Southgate out
1:- It's only England fans that expected to win that game, fans worldwide and the bookies all expected France to win that game.
2:- England had more possession than France and more shots on goal that France.
3:- England's best players are young and still improving Frances' best players are the reigning world champions.
4:- Is anyone gonna give some credit to Southgate for subbing on Mount who got a penalty when England needed it most?
The is a reason Jose, Pep and klopp are different.
They dont teach players football.
They teach the players how to Win.
Add Ancelotti and TT in this list.
These 5 are the one England NT team needs to overcome the biggest mental Block.
To be England manager one must have an English passport.
@@marksmarsh2039 oh capello had english passport never knew that.
Yes and Eriksson i know but we have moved on from them times. NOW the manager must be English. That is what i meant to say
Pep and Klopp are ofcourse great managers
if the Chelsea manager can get his act together he is in with a great chance
Simon Jordan talking absolute sense.
Please can I propose a major change in how we manage and play our international football in England. Look at the England cricket team now. A little over a year ago they were hammered in Australia and then the West Indies. England we dreadful. Since the change of coach and captain a new ethos on how we play the game has come in and has produced startling results. England beat New Zealand and South Africa playing this new attacking at all costs game last summer and now have won (today) a test series in Pakistan. Which by the way is amazing. Same players but a new direction.
The England football team needs to change its attitude to how it plays the game and it needs to get metaphorically on the front foot and literally go for it in matches. England to me look ordinary for too long in matches and seem petrified to try things. There has to be a change. I know cricket is a completely different game to football; however, look at the results. Change the attitude - take away the fear of losing and galvanise the players into becoming confident in winning.
If you always do as you’ve always done then you’ll only ever get what you’ve always got. CHANGE that is what is needed.
Gareth has reached his ceiling I’m afraid, about time we get a manager to kick us on to the next level. Thank you Gareth for what you’ve done, but it’s time for a change
Thomas Tuchel in?
@@davidwan7603 potentially yes, I’d love poch but he’s not elite
Didn't they bend the knee well though
The script was written from the minute we knew we would face the French, it was all about how would or could we cope with Mbappe, all the focus was on Walker v Mbappe.
Not saying don't mark him, not saying whenever possible double up on him, and definitely not saying get a challenge in on him so he knows he is in a game.
But there has to be balance, otherwise as 'we' proved we go into a vital game on the back foot, if we had scored first, we wouldn't have gone for the second or third.
The cricket team has shown what happens when someone is brave enough to say, just ho out and play, show what you can do, and unless you make a complete and utter balls up, your in the team for the next game.
The subs with the exception if Mount were pointless, Sterling shouldn't have gone back, far too much on his mind, Grealish far too late, and overloading one wing with Grealish and Foden, not something Southgate has figured out
In our time, we will never see England win the World Cup! 😖
The women's national team has more chance of winning a world cup before the men do.
It's alright, I've seen England win 4
Nor a Euros. England might not ever win anything again.
@@MG-hi9sh Southgate blew England's best ever chance since 1966 at the Euro's. I can't see the men winning a major tournament in my lifetime.
Why ? Jeez, talk about glass half empty.
England have been bottlers for as long as most of us remember....as soon as you play anybody decent...you lose.....
Simons spot on massive wasted chance with the players we have , new manager 🙏
Great one Mr Simon once again
Simon talks more sense than most of the ex professionals who are frankly too timid to call out Southgate on anything
Croatia has a population of Under 4 million people and they have gone further in the last two world cups than us. They had to contend with a raft of retirements (Subasic, Rakitic, Mandzukic) and still they hurtle on.
Says it all.
I like Simon’s take. Standards should always be high. People should stop accepting anything less than winning a trophy. England should be about winning a tournament.
But we haven't won one since '66...that's like saying Tottenham should be comparing themselves to City or Chelsea. We're talking about different levels here
@@Stinkmeaner420 Spurs don't have the resources of City or Chelsea, your comparison here makes no sense. It's more akin to Man City not competing for the league with what they have. The English league system is by far the best-funded in the world, and the clubs are the richest in the world with the best facilities and it's a large nation of football lovers. To have a record of 2 major finals with one win is appalling.
@@BigDoniel that's great and all that we have funding, but let's be serious. Where is most of the fundamental talent coming from? Cos it's not from England. Look at the hype that saka, grealish and foden get. None of them are world class, else they would be chased by real madrid and barca, along with the likes of vini jr, mbappe and håland. Yet the english media bigs them up so much. Even bellingham. Ffs, the boy is 19! Who's to say he don't end up like dele alli, yet he's already being touted as future England skipper. We need to face the reality of English football. We attract talent cos of the money, nothing more, nothing less
The difference between Deschamps and Southgate. No Kante and Pogba and they still habe found a way in this WC. Gareth had a full squad at his disposal. He has done well but now he has reached his Peak with this talented group
Eng beat Iran, Wales and Senegal, not good enough to win a World Cup.
I bet Jimbo is delighted England blow up their best chance of winning a World Cup in a long time.
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Morocco beat Belgium, Spain and Portugal. That is a managerial and player masterclass.
Southgate has to go
Who replaces Southgate? I would 100% go for Eddie Howe.
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Bang in the money…….again. Time for Southgate to go now, gone as far as we can under him. Piss poor results against the big teams every time.
True, in the last 3 tournaments we have not beaten any top teams. We beat Germany in the Euro ‘s who were very poor as the world cups either side of the Euro’s have shown and we lost to Italy who failed to even qualify for the World Cup.
Maybe we're not a great team.
I would say denmark were a top team but still trash history from us
England need to get off their knees and politics and concentrate on football. France were more positive and had help from the ref. Missed a pen, massive chance lost. This competition has been poor.
Simon got it spot on,we are a middle of the road and always have been,4 wins out of 24 in southgates reign against decent teams sums him up,we are just not good enough and never have been,they really had an unbelievable opportunity to win this one but as usual and realistically they were never going to based on their history.
@@GIBBO4182 What is your point, mate. USA, Iran, Wales and Senegal are top 20 sides. England should not be losing to any of those teams. Mexico has one if it's worse teams in history and they are ranked 13th. Beating top 20 teams when you're England is not a great achievement.
@@GIBBO4182 Theb you're an i.diot. France had half of their starters missing and beat you. This is the deepest England team in living memory. France lost their starting LB, their entire midfield' starting striker and support striker all before a ball was kicked. What kills England is poor mentality like you're and an average coach.
@@GIBBO4182 Ifyou believe that those squads were better than this one then you are s.tupid.England HAD a great starting 11 then and no depth. You also had a mediocre manager like bow. You had bigger names not better teams. You're making excuses for your failure and then saying that you don't accept mediocrity?
Gibbons,really you are clutching at straws there mate,what about Belgium twice in the same tournament the mighty Croatia,an average Italian side at home in a final?we are and always have been serial losers,get use to it
France and England were probably about equal in that game. However in the fine margins, they have a manager in Deschamps who was proactive enough to make the right changes at the right time to get the job done. Southgate can't do that. We said exactly the same when Mancini's Italy side beat us in the Euros Final. Southgate is a safe pair of hands, he rebuilt the team and gave us good foundations. But he'll never take us further
France barely changed - played dembele long who is useless
we lost to France. 2-1. Anybody would think we had lost to China 10-0 the way some fans and pundits are goin on.
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No offence to Mount or Sterling but they aren’t on form and he knows they aren’t… a better manager will put favouritism aside and win us these moments .
Simon always talks sense
It’s very easy for any opposition coach when playing England now; just send decent crosses into the box and eventually John Stones will nod off and not keep up with the attacking player receiving. We need alternatives in defence, it’s cost us 2 tournaments now. That’s not Southgate’s fault, Stones and Maguire are the best he has. Unfortunately their best is not quite good enough.
So is Tomori the answer then?
Not a big England fan but I do follow the team. But as a big Arsenal fan the word ‘potential’ is haunting. We had so many sides that were labelled as title-winning sides in three years time or something but it never happened. I just hope England deliver the next Euros bc otherwise idk if they ever will win something.
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
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We crumble under pressure. We appeared scared at times of France. It's a mindset that's needed and unfortunately we don't have it. We can beat average. We can't beat good teams.
Simon is a master of sneaking jabs at other people while making a valid point😅 ..genius !
France terrified? LOL. We've been playing whithout Pogba, Benzema, Kanté, Kimpembé, L. Hernandez, Nkunku and still you lost. Some respect for your opponent please. Arrogance got punished.
Spot on again. Safegate will never win us a tournament, he’s had 3 attempts, I hope he now sees it’s time to go
We lost to a French team missing potentially 4 starters in Nnkunku, Benzema, Pogba and Kante whilst simultaneously fielding our best possible 11 with a ridiculously strong bench too. We will not win a tournament until we get a manager capable of attacking a match head on with the quality we have.
What happened to building the England team around Jack wilshere, how did that work out?
Is always beating teams you are expected to beat really so bad. I’ll refer you to Germany, Spain, Brazil, Belgium etc as examples of teams who didn’t
Just so true. We cannot win 50-50 games. We lose when it gets difficult, when it is tough, when it is the balance.
i think we are often unlucky. In this game the moments were all against us. The early goal left us chasing. The penalty that we never got. Even their first goal seemed bit illegal and that Pickford was unsighted was very unlucky. It's happened so many times. The German goal in 90 deflecting and loopng over Shilts. The hand ball in 86. Wasn't there a deflection v Brazil in 2002?
Simon did mention before that Southgate has not been tested !
Agree with Simon on many points but saying it would be nice for one of our players to beat a man, did he not watch Saka?........
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Simon spot on again. Best pundit by far.
I have a great respect for Simon.
When the pre-Match talk was there in all TV Shows , most English commentators ( i mean those who supported England to win ) were more worried about the French attack , particularly Mbappe and Griezmann and they said much of containing the french attack for most of the time. Their projection of the English attack was only after speaking of the French attack . Some commentators even called for a penalty to decide the outcome. That means you placed the faith on Jordan or Pope to come to your penultimate rescue with an assumption that Lorris shall make the mistake , and the rest of 90 mins + Additional time were already decided to be on the defensive .
In contrast, the french, were confident of their attack . They always had the faith that Mbappe or Griezmann would find the nets
With a defensive mindset ends with securing a draw is the limit of victory , whereas , it is always a calculated attack , built on strategy of assault is the path to the victory .
Despite the fact that the french attack was superior and more decisive , England played fantastically well most of the game and gave in everything ,
But the french were more confident.
I think that confidence is going to multiply and is to be carried on till the end of the final.
Based on this confidence and the abilities , i say this before the event ; Look for the match of France vs Morocco. France is going to have the first goal and when the first goal has come for France , Morrocon defence is going to fall apart and a blood bath of goals is likely to follow .
"Saka never seems to beat a player"
Apart from the pen he won and the 6 times he was fouled with only 3 given. Saka was outstanding in parts. Best watch the highlights again Simon. The one two with Bellingham to win the pen was sweet.
Simon is such a clown. Cheer-led Tyson Fury to sabotage the Joshua fight for Fury. Terrible takes
Agree Saka was brilliant still shocked that Southgate took him off
This guy is the epitome of English sports Media mate absolutely delusional
I don’t think England realised it was a knockout match.
"The French can't defend" lol
With France defence under the cosh and Mbappe reasonably quiet why didn't Southgate introduce TAA.
Accurate balls into the box would have caused havoc.
CRacking stuff from Simon J as ever. If only there were more young men like him in charge of stuff this country might not be such a catastrophic mess. 🎉
If i were French, and the French team lost, there would not be a single referees decision i could or would complain about or question. This game opened my eyes to a level of corruption that would put cricket to shame! It was rigged, VAR and the ref did everything they could to delay / ignore clear cut decisions that manipulated the outcome.
Wat a rambler my god as he ever played at top level loves himself
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Well said.
Can't disagree with anything there
England have always had a mental problem.. When will they realize this game we call football is a psychological game. If they believed that was a Wales team wearing a French kit we would've won 4-0
Well said. I concur!
Saka taken off? Grealish brought on for one minute? Bizarre! Simon is absolutely right on Southgate we always start so slow, he has always been reactive not proactive. That’s the difference between winners and loser’s!
The USA has a term, Monday morning quarterback as we have hindsight. They also have the term 'clutch' which is the difference between a good player and a great player. Southgate has had six years. If it was going to happen it would have.
In football, if the coach doesnt have a clutch moment, the player wont have a clutch moment.
I agree. He has improved the England squad but he has reached his apex. England need a new manager. The two teams were quite evenly matched and it seems to me England lack that killer instinct that great teams possess. Missing that penalty was purely a psychological issue.
That’s why no one listens to Americans when it comes to footy. Clueless
Is it just me or do England look better when we pick up the pace and go at teams. We look pedestrian half the time knocking the ball sideways and backwards at the half way line, that just lets you're opponents get back in position and set up. France looked all over the place when we attacked with some sort of determination!
I agree with what you are saying. pussyfooting around playing triangles in your own half is not going to get you anywhere. As a hopeless amateur defender, even in pub games, I felt the attackers were the most dangerous at pace down the centre. I think England play like this
because they do not trust themselves to stop fast counter attacking teams, they act apprehensive from the off. I read that Maguire and Stones passed the ball over fifty times between them in one game. Southgate is timed beyond belief using his subs.
Once again we failed, we only beat those teams who any 11 England players would beat 99/100 games but once again as soon as we met a good team we failed though lack of ideas, lack of skill and lack of Managers ability to recognise when changes were needed and to understand what to do. When the pressure is on we are a disorganised mess. Sorry but Southgate not up to the job at world champions level
Rashford should have been brought on way earlier, Kane offered absolutely nothing.
As soon as we scored we should have brought him on, we desperately needed pace
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Kane is irremovable. That’s why Southgate has to go, he has too many favourites.