@@xunliu9653 I used to watch premier league in 2003-2004 every week. It was great. Now it's garbage. Now I watch Serie A and Bundesliga. So I agree with you 😁
I have a theory that cheating in the 1966 World Cup final brought a curse upon the national team. Not saying it's permanent but it certainly was still in effect a couple of days ago.
@@samca4472 Brazil - Pele was always harshly targeted by the players and referee ultimately resulting in his injury and getting knocked out in the group stages Argentina (Quarter Finals) - A red card to an Argentine player due to miscommunication and the English manager calling them “animals”. Portugal (Semi Finals) - Eusebio was fouled multiple times and was denied a penalty several times. The location was also changed suddenly Germany (Final) - Geoff Hurst’s illegal goal that never crossed the line
@@samca4472 Portugal was supposed to play in Goodison Park but then at the last moment the location was shifted to Wembley. Portuguese players didn’t get the time to rest. If that’s not cheating then I don’t know what is then.
I'm German. After Germany failed to clear group stages in 2018, I told my English friends that I might become an England fan for the rest of the tournament. Their response? "You do so at your own risk."
How did Ireland get on? England beat holders Italy home & away in qualifying, had some memorable moments in these Euros (Bellingham's last minute overhead kick, Saka's equaliser, the penalty shoot out v Switzerland & Watkins sublime late winner in the semis. Ireland had 2 epic wins v Gibraltar in the qualifiers losing every other match! Perspective
@@EliasRoyAND THEY HAVE FIXED THE DRAWS FROM THE BEGINNING MAKING SURE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO FACE PELE' ANY EARLY AND THEY HAVE USED PORTUGAL TO DESTROY PELE' IN CASE HE WOULD HAVE PROGRESSED . PORTUGAL SHOULD HAVE FINISHED THAT MATCH WITH 6 MAN ON THE PITCH , MAYBE EVEN WITH 5 ....
@@andyallan2909 Because it was held in England. Did you expect them to play them in Turkey and everyone else plays in England. How weird would that be 😆
Just flat out not true though, they have the biggest and best league, consistantly bring one of the best squads to every tournament they go to and are one of only 8 countries to win the world cup.
@@harleyokeefe5193 Their record at international level bears out the fact that they are average. Statistically England are on a par with Portugal but stylistically have more in common with Belguim. People shouldn’t expect any more from them than the Belgians do from their team. The idea that England is some sort of elite footballing nation is nonsense and only has its roots in the fact that the game originated in these islands, but it was the Scottish who really adapted and refined it. The World Cup victory in 1966 was due to home advantage, a handful of their best players ever, three of whom - Peters, Moore & Hurst were developed by England’s best ever coach - Ron Greenwood, whose West Ham side didn’t play traditional English football. The success at club level in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s was greatly assisted by Scots, Welsh and Irish players. England have never produced players skilful enough (with a handful of exceptions) for the very highest international standards due to the league’s physical, results-oriented football (which is what the fans really want) and because we have still not accepted the fact that coaching is a vital part of the game. Another fact that is not often appreciated by English critics is that other managers are successful because they have a lot of really talented players at their disposal, and a manager cannot do a good job without the necessary resources in terms of human material. .
I think that at last England are going in the right direction now, with the U21 team winning the last Euros, and the senior team getting to the last Final.
@primarch316 Brian Clough, Nigel was his son and no where near as good, as for Alf Ramsey he wasn't particularly popular and nor was his football, but he won a WC and all his failings are forgotten.
@@nemesis8626by doing what Have they scored more goals no They showboated all through the euros and didn't play well at all Spain are farrrr better than England and also the fact that the best team won the euros Spain played really well ❤
1960 - declined to participate 1964 - lost to France in qualifying 1968 - came third. lost to Yugoslavia in semi final 1972 - lost to West Germany in qualifying 1976 - failed to qualify 1980 - failed to get out of group 1984 - failed to qualify 1988 - failed to get out of group 1992 - failed to get out of group 1996 - lost the semi final on penalties to Germany 2000 - failed to get out of group 2004 - lost the quarter final on penalties to Portugal 2008 - failed to qualify 2012 - lost the quarter final on penalties to Italy 2016 - lost the round of 16 to Iceland… 2020 - lost the final on penalties to Italy 2024 - lost the final to Spain
That’s just a stupid statement. And I’m not even an England fan. But harry Kane is the best no. 9 in the world and Jude Bellingham may very well be the best player in the world currently. If Phil Foden is your 3rd best player, you have some talent at your disposal. You wouldn’t know any of that from the 2 matches they’ve played, but that’s not the players fault. Nothing like subbing on three runners, mere minutes after taking Alexander-Arnold off (England’s best long ball specialist) to show you where the real problem lies. England doesn’t have the most talented squad at the euros (top 3 probably) and they should have never been considered favorites. But to call their talent “not that good” is a cretinous opinion, expressed by a dangerously unlearned person. Aim higher. Much.
@@SKa-tt9nm Although you disagree most strongly with Alex - which you have every right to do - you effectively label him - as opposed to his opinions - as stupid, cretinous, and dangerously lacking in erudition. Alex's viewpoint is strong - and, perhaps, a little over-stated - but I don't perceive it in any way as a personal attack. You are cordially invited to "aim much [lower]": at me - an even more cretinous individual...
@@philfoster8789 you make a very fair point, which will be reflected by my measured response to you. And by contrast, it’ll highlight how little I thought of Alex’ point. In my view - and I’ve been wrong on occasion - Alex deserved exactly the answer that he received, because his post - upon another review - was worse than cretinous. It was intellectually lazy and generic. UA-cam is *littered* with posts just like his. These people fall in one of two categories: 1) they genuinely believe that this England team - which includes England’s all time leading scorer, a multi-golden shoe winner in multiple top 3 leagues, multiple champions league winners, a player who may very well be simultaneously the best player in the world and the best young player in the world, etc - isn’t talented. These people are dangerously stupid and it’s our collective duty to check their ridiculous opinions periodically. Or 2) people who don’t believe #1, but are just trolling. I find these people even more tiresome. While your point is a good one - and well made - upon another review Alex strikes me as a person who’s exhibited no redeeming qualities in the short time we’ve known him. Stated differently, his opinion is so bad, it *has* to reflect on his character. All the best.
I think the probelm is that England aren't and have never been as good as they think they are. There are always stronger teams than them at every tournament, yet for some reason go in thinking the trophy is in the bag before a ball is even kicked.
Well as someone who lives in England, my whole life everyone has been pessimistic about our international team's chances. This idea that "we think we're so good" comes from nowhere. Just annoyed at England fans public appearances doing exactly the same thing every other team's fans do. Saying they're going to win? People just single out England for it, not sure why. Probably annoyed at our cultural relevance compared to other European countries.
@@lokischeissmessiah5749 As someone who's been living in England for the past 10 years I will say that, from my point of view, I've always perceived my English friends as too optimistic about winning the Euro/World Cup even before the tournament had started. I supposed it's not your case, but from my friends, it's always been like that and it always left me a bit perplexed. I have never seen that overly optimistic attitude from fans in my home country, Spain, not even when we were the current European (and later World) champions.
07:44 - the hype - this is so true it's unreal. Every tournament they're hailed as the champions, and it's hilarious. I remember when that tosspot Beckham got injured before the 2002 World Cup, and the first headline in the news was 'Can England win without Beckham?' my dad just started laughing, and said 'They can't win with three Beckhams!'
Here, and everything this guy said about England's failure to win the Euro is 1000% accurate, lack of unity and discipline is one of the vital aspects of building a team and winning trophies, 1966 was their only year when they actually played like a complete team and even then refs ruined it kinda, what Southgate needs is to develop his coaching philosophy, that's how one grows, what he has looks good on paper but never actually implemented it when you really think about it. Managers like Pep, Xabi Alonso and other managers/coaches who aren't English know that you have to adapt your style of play otherwise you won't win any trophies, club or international, especially given that football is changing rapidly, another example is Turkey in 2021(2020 Euro) the coach had a good tactic that he could've used to win the whole tournament and can beat anyone with hell even go on a long winning streak like Colombia but the problem is that the coach simply didn't put that philosophy into action and which resulted in them losing all their games in the group stage. Bottom line, you have to be willing to unite and let your coaching marinate so it can actually produce trophies otherwise overhyped players is all your gonna get.
@@ravanpee1325How was it rigged i don’t understand? The ball was on the line and was a close decision. For a country that seemingly is irrelevant it seems to live in the heads of foreigners rent free, especially when nobody talks about the obvious time it crossed the line when it was over a meter over the line, that doesn’t fit the narrative though
i am Autistic so am trying to understand your meaning and think you actually are calling them : 1 Wooden or you refer to the Scottish country sport where they toss a tree trunk hence England are 2 Tossers or maybe they should wear those chequered outdoor shirts then sing The Lumberjack Song which implies this side are best off at home enjoying their girl friends wardrobe whilst she’s at her mothers because they’re 3 Cross Dressers And no good at high level football . i bet Lampard likes womens’ clothing.
It’s largely because in England they believe that being English automatically means they are somehow ahead of everyone else at the start gun. Everyone else is against them or they are unlucky. It’s actually because other nations teach the kids to play in technique from a young age not just kick and show physical prowess or passion. Same in business too.
3:28 Give some credit to Unai Emery. Football didnt started in 2016. Before that he let Sevilla to 3 Europa Leagues in a row. An Europa Legaue final with Arsenal who lost vs a better Chelsea squad. And won again the Europa League with Villareal against Man United
An English manager has never won the Champions League, the Europa League, the Premier League or the Euros, or the Club World Cup or the Nations League or . . . . . . . . . . . there’s your problem
Well, it is a mixture of many things. Spanish football was in a similar position a few decades ago; when LaLiga was the "Star's League". We were the best league, but the national team always failed. Spanish players were not used to be the main protagonist of the teams; formation was not the keystone of every team; we were the richest ones; so, it was unnecessary to seize and develop a really strong tactician and player formation system. We did not export players on that time; so, our players were less competitive and able to adapt to different kinds of styles. In addition, Spanish football started a formative revolution during the 90s (not just in La Masia). On national team and club level. Less physicality and more understanding of the game and technical training. This kind of making things started on England just a decade ago. When the economic crisis arrived to LaLiga, we were forced to seize our football schools, export players and harvest the previous job done by national football federation. It took decades. That's similar in countries like France or Portugal, where there's a huge national football formation network (very young taleted players like Mbappe or Tchouameni were selected to be trained on national team academy when they were youngsters searching for a team). English football was very coarse and isolated of the ultimate football revolutions until premier league (mainly the Sacchi and Cruyff innovations), further more after the europe's ban from competitions in 1985, and started to be important and modernized on the late 2000s. You began to implement football formation like in Spain or France even lately. Now you have started to produce modern players instead of English players; but there's a lack of modern national coaches with its own ideas. It will take time cause you need coaches that experienced and developed modern football mentality instead of the old English one. At the end, modern English football is still in its infancy; like I said, just a few years ago Premier League wasn't even as professional as other leagues; first Spanish players that arrived to PR talked about the lack of structure and method inside clubs during 2000s. I even remember Malouda talking about the lack of the minimum tactical knowledge of English players when he arrived to Chelsea. Players like Phoden, Bellingham, Grealish or Saka are starting to show how can be national english football in a few years. You are doing well, but takes time!
Italy were actually cursed in the tournament from when it became a real tournament with a good amount of teams to when they won it in 2021 which was by them having to be statistically the best team (despite a much harder route than runners-up England). But 1996 to 2016 Italy were the best team to not win any of those 6 tournaments. 2 finals, 1 of which they were about 20 seconds away from beating the WorldChampions (France) and it should've been 2-0 before France scored the very late equaliser but also Italy's goalkeeper Toldo had a great tournament but got his nose studded in that final. Italy had won their first 4 games and got the better of both hosts and knocked out the favourites&co-hosts Netherlands without conceding to them when Netherlands had scored 13 goals in the 4 games before playing Italy. 2 uniquely unlucky group stage exits which has basically no chance of happening in today's format. 1996 (a group with the 2 eventual finalists Germany & CzechRepublic, the latter Italy had a better record than but UEFA's rules allow a team who beat you however lucky it was to finish above you if you're on the same points regardless of the goal difference, CzechRepublic had worse GD in my book & Fifa's book that means they had a worse record it's as bad as having a point less UEFA disagree and because Czech beat 10 man Italy 2-1 they progressed just for that reason but had 2 worse results out of 3 than Italy. Plus Italy were the better team vs Germany and also missed a penalty which would've made them finish top of the group let alone qualify) & 2004 it's extremely rare to be eliminated from a group where you get a win and 2 draws with zero defeats. The 2 eventual finalists that year would've massively struggled a lot vs Italy had either of them had to face them. 2 shootout exits 2008 (vs Spain who dominated World football 2008 to 2012 the latter was Italy's other Euro's final defeat) & 2016 (vs Germany the reigning WorldChampions) Italy were better than the eventual winners of that competition (Portugal) it's just Italy kept having to play the best teams every round while Portugal avoided everyone (Italy, Spain, Belgium & Germany) and were still unconvincing.
Southgate has taken England to a level higher than anyone since 66, he has nullified the pressure on his players better than anyone and he has built a unified squad who want to play for each other. The trouble is that he is a defender with a risk averse mentality and hardly the best tactician in the world and under him this is the best the team can be. I would love to see him stay but step down to coach the things he excels at. Alongside him I would love to see Pep Guardiolla or someone of his stature and nouse taking charge of England. Then we would win something.
Yeah agreed he has done well but can’t quite get them over the line when it matters most - in finals. Seen calls for Klopp to take it on. That would be something 🔥
The media and all the over hype and over analysis is the curse of England fc Englqnd always has good players so they need a boss that can eliminate all of the pointless pressure from the depressing pressssssssss gangs
the reason England don't win shit is because of the fa. they are men running the team who have never played the game. they need a coach with passion, balls, leadership, good knowledge of the game and who is well respected. the only reason why we have the best players in the world is because the clubs want to win by any means so they get the best coaches. but what does that stand for when you have a man who was a shit player, soft character and really has no idea about how to win as the manager. come on man. It's funny how on the back pages they are saying England are shit they put saka on the cover when he has had the most man of the matches for England. mark my words England won't make it out of the group and again as an English man I wouldnt give a shit.
The EPL no longer attracts the best players in the world.....that's the point! If it did, then Vinicius Jnr, Bellingham, Mbappe, etc would all be playing for English clubs - not elsewhere. You could argue that we no longer attract the best managers either - look at United, Chelsea, Newcastle. It's delusional to think that we do - either in terms of players or managers. The days when we went toe to toe with La Liga clubs are over. I think in a few years time the EPL will be overtaken by Series A. The Italian league is slowly on the way back. Give it another five years and by 2030 we'll be losing players to Serie A - just like we did in the 90's. Everything goes in cycles. The EPL is now on a gradual decline, and Serie A, on a gradual rise.
I agree with most of what you said, but I disagree with your "really has no idea about how to win as the manager" comment. The one thing that Southgate knows is how to win, at all costs - it doesn't matter how you play, if you go behind, as long as you win the game then that's all that matters. It is also one of his big criticisms because people aren't accepting that he's willing to win (whatever the cost/playstyle entertainment) at the risk of playing unappealing football
English FA is like an entittled parent: brings its child (english football team) to a competition and always gets surprised when that child *is not given the 1st place trophy* instantly.
I am portuguese , and i understand the pain of what English People can feel right now!!! We never won anything till 2016! And We never stopped to beleive that someday we will capture our first title , what i can say is!!! man it was so great and what a joy it was for our country when we finally won it. I hope someday you guys from england will feel this Joy. This feeling that your country is the champions is incredible... Keep faith.. cheers from Portugal ❤❤❤❤
If we look at the 8 countries that have won the world cup, 7 have won 4 or more international tournaments. England won the world cup, in England. They didn't have to qualify, they played every game at Wembley. This is not a track record of a power house football nation. Expect something similar, and you won't be disappointed.
Not sure if it was HiTC Sevens whom studied Englands’ progress through the 1966 event but the interpretation demonstrated how the team were more often than not on the good end of refereeing decisions along with the overall politics of the tournament weighing in their favour. I’ve never heard an alternative narrative or critical take on 1966 but it was a real eye opener. 👍
Euro should go back to the original finals format of 8 teams in 2 groups....that will spare everyone from watching third tier teams qualifying and play useless games that serve only to boost the chances of 2nd tier teams like england & Switzerland
They need to be able to beat big teams when it matters most. England have done well in recent tournaments because they played teams that were not that good or not as good as they use to be like Germany in the last Euro or teams at the level of Colombia or Senegal. I do think England will do well this Euro hopping they win cause I'm English and I've never seen England win a single tournament in my lifetime. I also do believe that luck wasn't on our side in crucial moments like the last Euro or World cup. They need to be able to beat the big teams without going to penalties or even Extra time for that matter. Look at Argentina for example they scrapped by and suffered to win a world cup even with Messi and all they’re talented players. However in crucial moments Messi stepped up , Martinez rose to the occasion or the other players raised they’re game.
As an English man, i have hope for the future as we've come so close twice in 3 years. Not to mention that the players have huge potential. But this isn't me being overhyped as there are times i just know we won't win games due to either tactical reasons or who is playing. And i feel it will come home again. But after a long long long while..
'04 (the year Greece won) was the one that got away. Rooney in the international form of his life until his injury, and even then Campbell had a late winner ruled out in the QF.
saying that the Premier League has never been conquered by an English coach in its history, then talking about 1966 is a bit misleading, considering the Premier League era only started in 1992. An English manager won the top division the year before with Leeds, nevermind legendary English managers like Brian Clough or Bob Paisley.
@@YourFootballZone I mean it’s technically true but it implies a lot more that “they’ve never won the premier league in history” then “never won the top division since 1992”, especially when 1966 is brought up the next second. The premier league is just the same top flight of English football, the difference being that it was broadcasted on television, so I don’t understand the obsession people have with saying stuff based on it being since the “premier league”.
Exactly, it skips from 1966 straight to 1992. To be fair the England teams of the 70s & 80s were dreadful beyond belief, I remember Euro 80 being particularly bad. People often forget the English teams were dominating European football from the mid 70s to mid 80s. However the national team were utter shite during that period. The 82-85 period England was god awful.
among the problems, assumptions like the premier is the best league... where Spaniards are the managers leading the board year in year out. and considering that because it's the best league in self promoting and making money, means it's the best league in the field...
Well, in 1966 Christmas came early. This year's championship was offered to England. They were heavily helped to defeat Portugal and reach the final. From the change of field to another city not respecting the initial draw, damaging Portugal to a goal from Eusébio that the referee didn't want to see.
Thank you, very interesting. I was too young alas to remember the 1966 world cup. But as an 8 yr old fanatic, I remember all too clearly the horror of the 1970 qtr final defeat to W Germany, after being 2-0 up on 70 minutes. It remains the single most painful for me all these years later, and perhaps was the baseline for the next 50 years. On your point about club rivalries impeding the national effort: the FA realised there was some sort of underlying malaise by the mid to late 70s. In this period, Liverpool - then populated mainly by English players, Emlyn Hughes et al - were dominant at home and in Europe. We experimented for a shorth while by cramming the national team with Liverpool players, But this was soon abandoned.
Hello, my friend, seems we are roughly of the same age. Sorry, a German speaking here. The Wembley final in 1966 was the very first most important football match I ever watched at the age of 8. It was quite exciting, abeit I barely understood what it was all about and what it really meant. After the match we, the boys of the block re-played the game between some garages with a tennisball, haha. And, yes, the 3:2 in the heat of Mexico has always been a highlight for us, but even more important was the 3:4 defeat against Italy in the semi-finals. I think the first German victory a t a l l against England was a 1:0 in 1968 in a friendly in Hannover. Until then Eng vs. Ger normally ended 8:3, 5:1 or 6:2 if not even worse ( from the Ger perspective). From the Mexico WC on you could have called me a football fanatic too. After the Italy-Brazil final I calmed down significantly, we wouldnt stand a chance against Brazil, no doubt about it. Anyway, after all those years and decades the question remains why England actually didnt win a single trophy that counts. You can find many answers here or in discussions of the leading football pundits. I have to admit, I dont know. Three years ago I thought, well, they‘ve beaten us in Wembley which will set free enough energy to finally win the EC cup. I didnt doubt that for a second. But you know, we suffered a lot from the Italiens and they were always at their best when all odds were seemingly against them. So, terribly enough for England the unexpected actually happened. In my opinion, and that may surprise you, the German team will not go to the semi-finals this year. German football is seriously damaged since 2018 and at best recovery has only begun recently. England? In all honesty, I would like to see the EC, or even better, the WC trophy in the hands of your captain, believe it or not. But in my sixties now I think Football‘s just a game and life will go on, with or without the trophy in our hands.
@@lowersaxon Many thanks Thomas. You are correct about need for perspective and I of course should have said the 1970 match was my most painful memory associated with the England team. I would have been v lucky if the worst thing that happened to me in life was a football match 50 yrs ago:) You mentioned Hannover and from your user name I assume you are from thereabouts. I have great memoires of working in Hannover in 1988.
England were hosts in 66’ it was as much a fluke as Greece winning the Euros when they hosted. England are not one of those elite footballing nations. They have the strongest league filled with players and managers from all over the world, and it is by far the wealthiest league, but this is no divine right to trophies. England are perennial underachievers who feel as if they are in the same conversation as Brazil Argentina Germany Italy France and Spain. England are on par with the Netherlands as far as tournament legacy. If a sense of entitlement and a false sense of superiority won trophies Englands cabinet would be full.
@@EliasRoy I think he means that England winning in 1966 was as much of a fluke as Greece winning in 2004. While I don't necessarily agree, I do think that England are clearly a level below the absolute top nations historically
@@AW-zk5qb That is a fair assessment. Statistically England are on a par with Portugal but stylistically and have more in common with Belguim. People shouldn’t expect any more from them than the Belgians do from their team. Until people accept it, they will be condemned to eternal disappointment and failure. It’s only when you accept that fact, however unpleasant, that you can then begin to make some progress. It’s like being an addict, you have to accept that you are something that you don’t like the idea of.
A big reason I think is because of the pressure from the fans. You all should just be like Scotland or Ireland. Just go to the tournament, have fun, have no expectations, and if something happens act surprised. It might work.
@@christopherjonesguitartuit6127 Brazilian fans cry when they lose, English fans riot and the media blasts them. London would have burned down if England lost to Germany 7-1 in 1966. Brazil fans cried about it like children.
Is there really such a thing as a curse? Maybe it's just that England haven't been good enough. They are no good at penalty shootouts and they don't try hard enough and they don't play to win.
Let's start with the richest league in Europe "The Premier League" it maybe the richest and most popular league in the world but I reckon it's overrated and underwhelming compared to La Liga (Spain), Serie A (Italy) or the Bundesliga (Germany). The problems begin with the so called "Tall Poppy Syndrome" within the national team and yes the egos do clash at times and the rivalries between the big clubs are very intense and at times "very toxic" between the fans, the media & of course the players. I also feel that the way England won the World Cup in 1966 was off the back of their style of play using tactics like "Physicality & Brute Force" by targeting the top players like Pele & Eusebio with hard fouls and physical exertion. Speaking of England's style of play, one: It's outdated, two: It's boring and predictable, three: it lacks creativity and flair, and four: it lacks cohesion and chemistry. What I've noticed about England is also it's lack of identity within it's own country and the way the national team is viewed by the media and the fans particularly by the media who I reckon have a so called "Bipolar Disorder" where they hype up and endorse the team so much one day and then brutaly chastise the team the next day instead of sympathising and encouraging the team through tough periods. Over the years they're playing styles have improved but a lack of patience and faith by the FA, the fans & the media of constant failures does also affect the mental state of the players on the park so players go into a pattern of thinking and a "Fear of failure" mentality which is a dangerous way of thinking instead of instilling belief of "We can win this" mentality which causes players to play a "safe & low risk" type football instead of "High risk & high reward" mentality where it just being predictable, ultra defensive, and relying on opposition to make mistakes instead of taking the opposition head on, in trying to crack the opposition defences.
@@YourFootballZone Its not easy or quick, but it starts with all the media being nothing but constructive, which is then picked up by the fans. Did you see any clips of the Dutch fans? The only clips Ive seen of English fans running away from some Serbs they were winding up, and some guy passed out with a pint pot on his head. You know theres going to be ignorant violence when England lose. Same as it ever was.
Imagine if britian decided to go to war with spain because the spanish won, and britain began their empire again so they could have some feeling of victory.
From what I know the spanish national team often suffered from the rivalry between Barcelona and Madrid. It was different between 2008 and 2012. They put their rivalry aside and won everything in that period.
@@Harry-tb8yo It's not just rivalry... Madrid & Barcelona are bigger than the National team.. They put Spanish football on the map & the National team has always played 2nd fiddle or worse... Still today it's not as important as it is compared to National teams from other Countries like Brasil, Argentina, Italy, Germany & even England whose National teams put them on the map
Expensive primadonnas do not a great national team make. For that you would need a healthy national pride and love for your country. Now, go back and look what has changed in the English national teams since 1966.
And a semifinal daylight robbery against Eusebio and his Portuguese teammates.....the poster game for biased refereeing. That 1966 ghost has been stalking the 3 lions for 58 years!!!
@@kasherimilkong1036 Eusebio was posing. If he had put himself out, instead of restricting himself to taking corners, free-kicks and throw-ins they might have won. Even Mario Coluna had a go at him.
I think it goes back to the curse of bobby charlton substitution in 70 2-0 up v Germany .Charlton is playing the game of his life .Ramsey takes him off with 20mins to go .We lose 3_2 ...England tragedy ever since .
@@YourFootballZone Not necessarily, only one nation can win the tournament. They only come round every two years, I always thought if international tournaments were played in a league format England would have won more. It doesn’t really have anything do with hype or the media, other nations do exactly the same. The Spanish for example had players who hated each other and their media is worse than ours. They still had 4 years of success.
@@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 hmm there’s still been plenty of opportunities to win tournaments. Spain have 1 WC & 3 EUROs, Italy have 4 WC & 2 EUROs, France 2 WC & 2 EUROs, Germany 4 WC & 3 EUROs. England are consistently ranked amongst the top 5 nations in the world yet are still stuck on 1 WC from 1966. Will see what this year brings anyway
@@YourFootballZone Of course there have been opportunities to win it, but that’s where the luck part comes in. Spain won 75% of their trophies in a 4 year spell. Germany historically have been like Real Madrid in the way they are not the best team at the tournament but find a way to win it, Italy’s trophies are sporadic and usually by being superb defensively. There have been some very very poor England performances over the years, but sometimes your luck just isn’t in.
For God's sake, if the Mexican national team, which is not a good team, has a confederations cup and a gold medal in soccer and England, the one who invented soccer has nothing, just a stolen World Cup 😂
In my opinion, the winning of a future title is a matter of hard work and not only in terms of football, even more so in working on the mental chip. Spain started becoming successful in foitball after having scrapped the nickname of "La Furia Roja". Defining themselves as furiuos was counterproductive because fury makes you lose control. The English team, public and media need to get rid of their stubbornness and entitlement of wanting to "bring back home "their" football trophies". If they don't get more humble in their approach, they very likely won't win anything if it's not a matter of luck.
Through the 70s, 80s, 90s the issue compared to other International top sides back then was that England were too often less professional in their preperation and fitness going into tournaments and they had less game management to go and win games they should have won and see the opposition off. Jump to present day, England teams tend not to move the ball quick enough or pass as well as the likes of Spain, Argentina etc to break down all the teams that sit back and defend going for a counter goal. Most International sides are highly disciplined and well coached now and will sit back and defend in numbers against strong sides and then counter. If an international side is going to win, they have to be highly technically proficient and consistent at passing and moving the ball quickly to beat these sides. England, whilst they do have some very good players who are not overhyped, they simply dont move the ball fast enough or proficiently enough compared to the few elite international sides that are capable of winning a WC or a Euros.
England cheated the one World Cup that they think they won. You’re just not good enough. I heard Talk Sport say that Kane is the best player in Germany and Bellingham is the best player in Spain. There’s your answer, you overrate yourselves. Football is a Latin game.
Jordan Pickford has been great for England! no don't play both saka on each wing, Foden is shit on the wing and it is a waste. Southgate has brought team spirit to England, that he learned from Euro 1996, the only thing he does wrong is he waits way too long for subs.
@@YourFootballZoneThe reason stays the same. England had the easiest possible way to the final, and failed vs the first real test. Not to forget, how poor the performance against weaker teams was.
A loser mentality. Grab the game by the scruff of the neck. Shake the absolute shite out of the opposition by letting the attacking talent play with freedom. Lift that trophy. But, no! We've got Southgate. 😢
It's like you are Nostradamus. Predictably, every time we took the lead or miraculously equalise, we sit back and defend and try and see the game out to extra time & pens. Someone, luck allowed us to get to the final
Letting yourself go a goal down against a team as good as Spain is a recipe for disaster. They managed to scrape through a couple of games prior to that but they were lucky. Perhaps because they had done it before they thought it would be the same. Complacency is their biggest problem
England has won the euros many times. The English Media tat is. Always arrogantly proclaiming its coming home. Lousy quality players,,,, Slowly wait Maybe 3024 euros will come home
A lack of decent Brithish management is the main issue. Years ago, England had a great selection of English managers to pick from the only problem was they would always pick the safe hands instead of the most talented and astute mangers. Imagine picking Ron Greenwood over Brain Clough and Roy Hodgson over Harry Redknapp or anyone at all, really. So again, England has a talentless manger with all the charisma of a dead tortoise leading some of the most talented players in the world to inevitable and totally embarrassing defeat. When will the F.A of Englad get tired of this shameful and tedious mediocrity. Maybe when they do, they will get a seriously talented manager for England. Jugen Klopp needs a hobby 🤔
The English FA could go after any manager in the world, regardless of nationality, pretty much since the beginning of its existence. Your answer makes no sense.
Ron Greenwood over Clough was the correct choice as Ron was far and away Britain's best coach and better adapted to international football than Clough would have been. The job of a club manager is basically motivation which is why Clough was so good. The club manager has to motivate a small group of players at regular, short intervals, even when they do not feel like playing. The international manager must have an idea of the kind of team which will, with very little practice, blend into a team ten times a year. His most vital function is not motivation but selection. The club manager is pragmatic; the international manager should be concerned with the broader development. That was not Clough's forte and the pressure of the job would have made his alcoholism worse. What made Ron Greenwood great was that he coached West Ham to play real football not English ‘fight-ball’. This was emphasised when West Ham beat Swiss team Lausanne en route to winning the European Cup Winners Cup in 1965. Afterwards their manager Karl Rappan said, ‘West Ham cheated they didn’t play English football.’ Another fact that is not often appreciated by English critics is that other managers are successful because they have a lot of really talented players at their disposal, and a manager cannot do a good job without the necessary resources in terms of human material. So, Southgate has performed a minor miracle.
Statistically England are on a par with Portugal but stylistically have more in common with Belguim. People shouldn’t expect any more from them than the Belgians do from their team. The idea that England is some sort of elite footballing nation is nonsense and only has its roots in the fact that the game originated in these islands, but it was the Scottish who really adapted and refined it. The World Cup victory in 1966 was due to home advantage, a handful of their best players ever, three of whom - Peters, Moore & Hurst were developed by England’s best ever coach - Ron Greenwood, whose West Ham side didn’t play traditional English football. The success at club level in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s was greatly assisted by Scots, Welsh and Irish players. England have never produced players skilful enough (with a handful of exceptions) for the very highest international standards due to the league’s physical, results-oriented football (which is what the fans really want) and because we have still not accepted the fact that coaching is a vital part of the game. Another fact that is not often appreciated by English critics is that other managers are successful because they have a lot of really talented players at their disposal, and a manager cannot do a good job without the necessary resources in terms of human material.
@Ruda-n4h Clough was able to win and retain the European cup even with his alcoholism which by the way, was not that uncommon at the time. Alcoholism was not treated as a health issue but a matter of personal weakness, which was a familys own affair to deal with. So, in the end, that made even a discussion of the subject a social minefield. Also, saying that England hasn't had enough world-class players is a weak argument when we consider that both Greece and Denmark have been able to win the Euros. Had they got better players than England, I don't think so. The problem with the 1966 World Cup win was that after 1966, England's F.A. and England mangers believed they couldn't learn anything from another nations' playing style or training methods. English teams have been able to win and even dominate Europe because they actually learnt from playing in Europe and used what they had learned to get better, but the English F.A. and their loyal servants like Ron, Roy, and Gareth aren't interested in learning or changing. It's an attitude that's beyond understanding.
Because they believe they have a divine right to win. Put all your money and resources into getting better tactics and you win. It’s a choice. Rather than turn up believing we are so much better than everyone else. Look at Athletics or rowing or cycling. They succeed on a fraction of what football has in england
There are a few reasons why England underachieve that i think are not looked at here. 1. Training/ coaching. England players are coached to play a role for their clubs. They are generally one-footed, not technical enough and unable to play even slightly different roles, causing incompatibility with other similar players in the team. The dirth of players who could use their left foot unbalanced the team. For professional players this is embarrassing. 2. Not enough English managers leaving innovation absent from England academies and a lack of respect to England managers from players who have typically achieved a lot more than the manager. No English manager has ever won the EPL. Only 2 English managers have ever beaten a Guardiola side. Depending on your definition there are only 4-6 English managers in top Leagues in Europe. Almost more Danish or Austrian managers which on a per capita basis is ridiculous. 3. This is more nuanced, but since WW1 there has been a split in English schools when it comes to sport. Posh, or at least aspirational schools, played Rugby and Cricket. Other schools played football. I think this has lead to a lack of 'academic rigour' around the thinking/ creative positions in the formative years for English players who can be coached into behaviours but might not know the why, or the theory around positional play. We always seem to have physically gifted players but not the creatives and seem distrustful of them. The answers to 1 is academy programme implementation guidelines from FA. St George's park will help train flexible England style and develop genuine 2 footed players. 2. Should be FA support for coaching programmes, bursaries and outreach. Try to keep successful ex-players within the game rather than pundits. 3. Is schools outreach and training/ coaching overhaul. Gradually things will get better, but its a pyramid. With more managers there are more likely to be a successful candidate with more technical players they are more likely to be tactically flexible etc
Nowadays England has the talent pool (still not sure whether its comparable to France, Germany or Brazil) but they can be successful if they can get a good manager
Would argue that England have always had multiple top players at any given time. There are multiple reasons as we identified but a winning manager could be the answer for sure!
They already have been at that point. They had all that e.g. in 2010, a lot of talent and one of the best managers around. But even a title collecting man like Fabio Capello was not able to get them to a semifinal. Always keep in mind that there is an opponent who wants to prevent you from playing well.
No…England don’t have winning mentality at national level..expect the usual nations like France, Italy and Germany to grow into the tournament..Spain may do well also…
I think the difference is the British are quite a sociable as we love or pubs and social clubs compared to other nations. I love how the Germans see taking a penalty as a great honour where with the English we’re petrified that we’ll end up in a Pizza Hut commercial. Plus we have very good players but also our education system crushes any trace of individuality out of people that’s why we end with bland leaders like Sunak , Starmer and Southgate. Come on England! 🏴
2 bad things for England. 1.) If they have to face France they need to play against Mbappé. And he simply would tear their "decent" defense apart together with Griezmann. And a medioker goalie as Pikford isn't able to stop those 2. Remember last world cup Mbappé made a hattrick in the final. He was the first player ever to make a hattrick in a world cup final. 2.) It's to bad for the people of England Haaland choose to play for Norway instead of England. Because he also have the English citizenship. Because he was born in Leeds when his father was playing for Leeds United.
Using the term "Golden generation" while speaking about English media hype for the players is nothing short of insane. All these players shine in their clubs but it's not them carrying the clubs, it's players from other countries. Even a managerial heavyweight like Fabio Capello couldn't get them to a semifinal. And let's not forget that national teams from other countries back then were also stacked with quality players. It's not like England were a team of superstars and other countries could just pick nobodies. The vast majority of English players are by far not as good as they are made to believe by the media. And then there is the mentality and England clearly lacks the right mentality. What do you think happens in Italy, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Netherlands and France if their national teams play poorly? They are also being heavily criticized but they don't moan and whine about that and instead they put effort into bouncing back and often enough they succeed. On a side note I want to come back to the term "Golden generation". This term is usually being used by countries that have won little or nothing and at some point have an exceptional collection of players that might do something meaningful. Bulgaria and Romania mid 90s were examples, Portugal around the 2000s with Figo and Rui Costa, Czech Republic or Belgium in recent years. England is the only World Cup winning country that uses such a term. No other current or former World Champion does that. Maybe that's a hint that people might hope but do not actually believe.
Could argue that Saka has been Arsenals best player last couple seasons and Palmer was definitely Chelsea’s best player last season. But get your point. Think England fans would rather see exciting football that utilises the players than boring defensive football we are seeing this tournament. Will see what tomorrow brings 🤷♂️
@@caspy-fnnot at all. The fans you’d have a point. But our team’s issue is the complete opposite. They’re not confident at all and don’t try to take and chances or risks because they’re scared of it backfiring. And it causes our players to practically just stand there as a result
@@MsMorningstar000 Especially Saka. He is a great player, he lines up perfect goals, but doesn't commit and ends up fumbling them. I see what you mean, but overall I think it's a mix of both. We don't challenge ourself, and we also think we're better than we are
Will England win EURO 2024? 🤔👇
As a Italian supporter I really want Italy To win again and break Spain's Record
But we are not the favourites so, I think Germany will win it😕
I would say, Germany, Holland, France all go further than England.
I don't know, but I hope they will never win anything. Their fans and media are unbearable.
@@xunliu9653 😂😂
@@xunliu9653 I used to watch premier league in 2003-2004 every week. It was great. Now it's garbage. Now I watch Serie A and Bundesliga. So I agree with you 😁
Who's here after England just lose again? 🤣🤣
yup
Me
That’s why we made this video 😂😬
That’s why we made this video 😂😬
Me
I have a theory that cheating in the 1966 World Cup final brought a curse upon the national team. Not saying it's permanent but it certainly was still in effect a couple of days ago.
Exactly as Benfica´s curse
@@silentsentinel1 Maybe yes at this point
The curse for cheating expires after 50 years.
@@samca4472
Brazil - Pele was always harshly targeted by the players and referee ultimately resulting in his injury and getting knocked out in the group stages
Argentina (Quarter Finals) - A red card to an Argentine player due to miscommunication and the English manager calling them “animals”.
Portugal (Semi Finals) - Eusebio was fouled multiple times and was denied a penalty several times. The location was also changed suddenly
Germany (Final) - Geoff Hurst’s illegal goal that never crossed the line
@@samca4472 Portugal was supposed to play in Goodison Park but then at the last moment the location was shifted to Wembley. Portuguese players didn’t get the time to rest. If that’s not cheating then I don’t know what is then.
I'm German. After Germany failed to clear group stages in 2018, I told my English friends that I might become an England fan for the rest of the tournament. Their response? "You do so at your own risk."
Tbf 2018 went pretty well considering the previous tournaments from England
Well, they weren't wrong.
Lies again? Jules Rimet Cellphone Home
Legend has it Trump faced more shots than Spain's goalkeeper
Wow 😂😂
Orange Fiddy
How did Ireland get on? England beat holders Italy home & away in qualifying, had some memorable moments in these Euros (Bellingham's last minute overhead kick, Saka's equaliser, the penalty shoot out v Switzerland & Watkins sublime late winner in the semis. Ireland had 2 epic wins v Gibraltar in the qualifiers losing every other match! Perspective
@@jackbadger8176Woah generational moment mate
England lives in Spain but The S is silent
That's a good one. 👍🏽
No you didn't 🤭🙈😂
Worst dad joke ever!
U can put the capital s in Savage
You think its a joke but its an actual theory on why the name came to be
Let's be honest. 1966 was highly controversial. A goal that never crossed the line and another during a pitch invasion....
Cheats
The quarterfinal was worse. Rattin sent off for saying something in Spanish by a German referee that didn't understand Spanish.
@@thebobster2824 Their matches against Argentina, Portugal, and most importantly Germany were all controversial.
And they played all their tournament games at Wembley.
@@EliasRoyAND THEY HAVE FIXED THE DRAWS FROM THE BEGINNING MAKING SURE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO FACE PELE' ANY EARLY AND THEY HAVE USED PORTUGAL TO DESTROY PELE' IN CASE HE WOULD HAVE PROGRESSED . PORTUGAL SHOULD HAVE FINISHED THAT MATCH WITH 6 MAN ON THE PITCH , MAYBE EVEN WITH 5 ....
@@andyallan2909 Because it was held in England. Did you expect them to play them in Turkey and everyone else plays in England. How weird would that be 😆
Aged like a fine wine
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England is an average footballing nation. That's the long and short of it.
They are best at qualifying finals
@@Homie-ls6yzthey‘re also the best at losing finals apparenly
Unfortunately that is true.
Just flat out not true though, they have the biggest and best league, consistantly bring one of the best squads to every tournament they go to and are one of only 8 countries to win the world cup.
@@harleyokeefe5193 Their record at international level bears out the fact that they are average.
Statistically England are on a par with Portugal but stylistically have more in common with Belguim. People shouldn’t expect any more from them than the Belgians do from their team. The idea that England is some sort of elite footballing nation is nonsense and only has its roots in the fact that the game originated in these islands, but it was the Scottish who really adapted and refined it.
The World Cup victory in 1966 was due to home advantage, a handful of their best players ever, three of whom - Peters, Moore & Hurst were developed by England’s best ever coach - Ron Greenwood, whose West Ham side didn’t play traditional English football.
The success at club level in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s was greatly assisted by Scots, Welsh and Irish players.
England have never produced players skilful enough (with a handful of exceptions) for the very highest international standards due to the league’s physical, results-oriented football (which is what the fans really want) and because we have still not accepted the fact that coaching is a vital part of the game.
Another fact that is not often appreciated by English critics is that other managers are successful because they have a lot of really talented players at their disposal, and a manager cannot do a good job without the necessary resources in terms of human material.
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England; The Spurs of International football.
More of a Newcastle I'd say. Much hyped, won nothing for 60+ years.
Spurs won trophy atleast
Yep. Even the same colours!
Spurs play good football.
England is the Everton/Stoke of international football.
@@newforestpixie5297 Finland??!
Its funny how the Pirlo panenka was brought on because even the English didn't like Joe Hart's antics during that shoot out & Pirlo humiliated him
The only time they won was with a goal that didn’t even cross the line, think about that… I don’t wanna hear a word from England fans about reffing
England's 'Golden generation' had nothing on the talented France, Brazil, Italy teams of the 2000's.
For real! 👏🏼🙌🏼
Even as an England fan can’t disagree
And then came the Daddy of them all 🇪🇸 🏆🏆🏆
@@manuelrodriguez2637 90s/00s Brazil 2 WCs 3 Finals 2 Copas would annihilate any Spain team ever
Brazil's not in Europe btw ;)
66 world cup was rigged. That was the only way England would ever get an international trophy.
every wrld cup is rigged
@@clashkingking6193 Not at all
True, ball never crossed line, pitch invasion, played every game in own stadium.
@@geronimocochise2033 they also messed with the Portuguese training before the semis, giving them piss poor conditions and relocating them.
@@fnxl11 Same with Cricket. They robbed New Zealand
I think that at last England are going in the right direction now, with the U21 team winning the last Euros, and the senior team getting to the last Final.
they will be useless so long as England doesn't have world class coach
@@krissiregar8083 I guess not coz...they got to Euros final in 2021.
@@krissiregar8083 Why not hire a foreign coach?
@primarch316 Brian Clough, Nigel was his son and no where near as good, as for Alf Ramsey he wasn't particularly popular and nor was his football, but he won a WC and all his failings are forgotten.
One problem is we are finally producing some world class players, but dont produce world class managers.
We've always produced world class players. Just never managed to figure it out
I'd like to see Eddie Howe do it.
Spain: Produces Both
Words of wisdom mate😂😂
World class players!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 dream on….
The reason is simple, they're not as good as they think.
Wrong...
They're not as good as the media think
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Sure two Euro finals in a row isn't it??? Cry more
@@nemesis8626 hehe OP's comment didnt age well
@@nemesis8626by doing what
Have they scored more goals no
They showboated all through the euros and didn't play well at all
Spain are farrrr better than England and also the fact that the best team won the euros Spain played really well ❤
1960 - declined to participate
1964 - lost to France in qualifying
1968 - came third. lost to Yugoslavia in semi final
1972 - lost to West Germany in qualifying
1976 - failed to qualify
1980 - failed to get out of group
1984 - failed to qualify
1988 - failed to get out of group
1992 - failed to get out of group
1996 - lost the semi final on penalties to Germany
2000 - failed to get out of group
2004 - lost the quarter final on penalties to Portugal
2008 - failed to qualify
2012 - lost the quarter final on penalties to Italy
2016 - lost the round of 16 to Iceland…
2020 - lost the final on penalties to Italy
2024 - lost the final to Spain
2020/21: It’s coming Rome
2024: Gibraltar is Spanish
england's players are overated by the media. they are not that good. i dont know why england is being termed as the favourite to win.
That’s just a stupid statement. And I’m not even an England fan. But harry Kane is the best no. 9 in the world and Jude Bellingham may very well be the best player in the world currently. If Phil Foden is your 3rd best player, you have some talent at your disposal.
You wouldn’t know any of that from the 2 matches they’ve played, but that’s not the players fault. Nothing like subbing on three runners, mere minutes after taking Alexander-Arnold off (England’s best long ball specialist) to show you where the real problem lies.
England doesn’t have the most talented squad at the euros (top 3 probably) and they should have never been considered favorites. But to call their talent “not that good” is a cretinous opinion, expressed by a dangerously unlearned person.
Aim higher. Much.
@@SKa-tt9nm Although you disagree most strongly with Alex - which you have every right to do - you effectively label him - as opposed to his opinions - as stupid, cretinous, and dangerously lacking in erudition.
Alex's viewpoint is strong - and, perhaps, a little over-stated - but I don't perceive it in any way as a personal attack.
You are cordially invited to "aim much [lower]": at me - an even more cretinous individual...
England are allways favourites at the bookies because that much money goes on them,and the press then says they are favourites full stop
@@davehoward22 An interesting thought...
@@philfoster8789 you make a very fair point, which will be reflected by my measured response to you. And by contrast, it’ll highlight how little I thought of Alex’ point.
In my view - and I’ve been wrong on occasion - Alex deserved exactly the answer that he received, because his post - upon another review - was worse than cretinous. It was intellectually lazy and generic. UA-cam is *littered* with posts just like his. These people fall in one of two categories:
1) they genuinely believe that this England team - which includes England’s all time leading scorer, a multi-golden shoe winner in multiple top 3 leagues, multiple champions league winners, a player who may very well be simultaneously the best player in the world and the best young player in the world, etc - isn’t talented. These people are dangerously stupid and it’s our collective duty to check their ridiculous opinions periodically.
Or
2) people who don’t believe #1, but are just trolling. I find these people even more tiresome.
While your point is a good one - and well made - upon another review Alex strikes me as a person who’s exhibited no redeeming qualities in the short time we’ve known him. Stated differently, his opinion is so bad, it *has* to reflect on his character.
All the best.
I think the probelm is that England aren't and have never been as good as they think they are. There are always stronger teams than them at every tournament, yet for some reason go in thinking the trophy is in the bag before a ball is even kicked.
Well as someone who lives in England, my whole life everyone has been pessimistic about our international team's chances. This idea that "we think we're so good" comes from nowhere. Just annoyed at England fans public appearances doing exactly the same thing every other team's fans do. Saying they're going to win? People just single out England for it, not sure why. Probably annoyed at our cultural relevance compared to other European countries.
@@lokischeissmessiah5749 100% this, all I have ever seen is actual England fans telling everyone how crap we are and how bad Southgate is.
@@lokischeissmessiah5749same with me
@@lokischeissmessiah5749 As someone who's been living in England for the past 10 years I will say that, from my point of view, I've always perceived my English friends as too optimistic about winning the Euro/World Cup even before the tournament had started. I supposed it's not your case, but from my friends, it's always been like that and it always left me a bit perplexed. I have never seen that overly optimistic attitude from fans in my home country, Spain, not even when we were the current European (and later World) champions.
This aged well.
07:44 - the hype - this is so true it's unreal. Every tournament they're hailed as the champions, and it's hilarious. I remember when that tosspot Beckham got injured before the 2002 World Cup, and the first headline in the news was 'Can England win without Beckham?' my dad just started laughing, and said 'They can't win with three Beckhams!'
Who is here after England lost the finals?
Read my mind
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Here, and everything this guy said about England's failure to win the Euro is 1000% accurate, lack of unity and discipline is one of the vital aspects of building a team and winning trophies, 1966 was their only year when they actually played like a complete team and even then refs ruined it kinda, what Southgate needs is to develop his coaching philosophy, that's how one grows, what he has looks good on paper but never actually implemented it when you really think about it. Managers like Pep, Xabi Alonso and other managers/coaches who aren't English know that you have to adapt your style of play otherwise you won't win any trophies, club or international, especially given that football is changing rapidly, another example is Turkey in 2021(2020 Euro) the coach had a good tactic that he could've used to win the whole tournament and can beat anyone with hell even go on a long winning streak like Colombia but the problem is that the coach simply didn't put that philosophy into action and which resulted in them losing all their games in the group stage. Bottom line, you have to be willing to unite and let your coaching marinate so it can actually produce trophies otherwise overhyped players is all your gonna get.
Sorry England haven’t won anything since 1966!!! France, Italy, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Portugal etc etc need I say more
Also 1966 was rigged with the Wemley goal
You forgot DENMARK 1992 😉
@@ravanpee1325No it crossed the line thats been debunked...
@@ravanpee1325How was it rigged i don’t understand? The ball was on the line and was a close decision. For a country that seemingly is irrelevant it seems to live in the heads of foreigners rent free, especially when nobody talks about the obvious time it crossed the line when it was over a meter over the line, that doesn’t fit the narrative though
@@niallmcgregor3979 don't forget Greece,
Because the EUROs is a football tournament, not a lumberjack competition.
i am Autistic so am trying to understand your meaning and think you actually are calling them :
1 Wooden
or you refer to the Scottish country sport where they toss a tree trunk hence England are
2 Tossers or maybe they should wear those chequered outdoor shirts then sing The Lumberjack Song which implies this side are best off at home enjoying their girl friends wardrobe whilst she’s at her mothers because they’re
3 Cross Dressers
And no good at high level football .
i bet Lampard likes womens’ clothing.
@@newforestpixie5297 he means wayne rooney..🤣
@@newforestpixie5297 ONLY 1 NAME : DIEGO ARMANDO MARADONA ! GREATEST EVER IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL
"Its coming to Rome, its coming to Rome"- Bonucci😂😂😂
That's all i remember when i hear about England
Let's simplify it. Lacking skill, brains and self belief.All you need to be successful.
It’s largely because in England they believe that being English automatically means they are somehow ahead of everyone else at the start gun. Everyone else is against them or they are unlucky. It’s actually because other nations teach the kids to play in technique from a young age not just kick and show physical prowess or passion. Same in business too.
3:28 Give some credit to Unai Emery. Football didnt started in 2016. Before that he let Sevilla to 3 Europa Leagues in a row. An Europa Legaue final with Arsenal who lost vs a better Chelsea squad. And won again the Europa League with Villareal against Man United
An English manager has never won the Champions League, the Europa League, the Premier League or the Euros, or the Club World Cup or the Nations League or . . . . . . . . . . . there’s your problem
England don’t always have English managers though.. they’ve had foreign ones too
Excellent point
@europainvicta3907 it's like there all content being pundits
Well, it is a mixture of many things. Spanish football was in a similar position a few decades ago; when LaLiga was the "Star's League". We were the best league, but the national team always failed. Spanish players were not used to be the main protagonist of the teams; formation was not the keystone of every team; we were the richest ones; so, it was unnecessary to seize and develop a really strong tactician and player formation system. We did not export players on that time; so, our players were less competitive and able to adapt to different kinds of styles.
In addition, Spanish football started a formative revolution during the 90s (not just in La Masia). On national team and club level. Less physicality and more understanding of the game and technical training. This kind of making things started on England just a decade ago.
When the economic crisis arrived to LaLiga, we were forced to seize our football schools, export players and harvest the previous job done by national football federation. It took decades. That's similar in countries like France or Portugal, where there's a huge national football formation network (very young taleted players like Mbappe or Tchouameni were selected to be trained on national team academy when they were youngsters searching for a team).
English football was very coarse and isolated of the ultimate football revolutions until premier league (mainly the Sacchi and Cruyff innovations), further more after the europe's ban from competitions in 1985, and started to be important and modernized on the late 2000s. You began to implement football formation like in Spain or France even lately. Now you have started to produce modern players instead of English players; but there's a lack of modern national coaches with its own ideas. It will take time cause you need coaches that experienced and developed modern football mentality instead of the old English one.
At the end, modern English football is still in its infancy; like I said, just a few years ago Premier League wasn't even as professional as other leagues; first Spanish players that arrived to PR talked about the lack of structure and method inside clubs during 2000s. I even remember Malouda talking about the lack of the minimum tactical knowledge of English players when he arrived to Chelsea. Players like Phoden, Bellingham, Grealish or Saka are starting to show how can be national english football in a few years. You are doing well, but takes time!
Snuck in Grealish like we wouldn’t notice 💀
Who’s here after England lost again in the Euro final. Seems like it’s never coming home
It was never home
@@richarda3514not true. Yall can want to hate us as much as you want but fact is that statement is wrong.
Italy were actually cursed in the tournament from when it became a real tournament with a good amount of teams to when they won it in 2021 which was by them having to be statistically the best team (despite a much harder route than runners-up England).
But 1996 to 2016 Italy were the best team to not win any of those 6 tournaments.
2 finals, 1 of which they were about 20 seconds away from beating the WorldChampions (France) and it should've been 2-0 before France scored the very late equaliser but also Italy's goalkeeper Toldo had a great tournament but got his nose studded in that final. Italy had won their first 4 games and got the better of both hosts and knocked out the favourites&co-hosts Netherlands without conceding to them when Netherlands had scored 13 goals in the 4 games before playing Italy.
2 uniquely unlucky group stage exits which has basically no chance of happening in today's format. 1996 (a group with the 2 eventual finalists Germany & CzechRepublic, the latter Italy had a better record than but UEFA's rules allow a team who beat you however lucky it was to finish above you if you're on the same points regardless of the goal difference, CzechRepublic had worse GD in my book & Fifa's book that means they had a worse record it's as bad as having a point less UEFA disagree and because Czech beat 10 man Italy 2-1 they progressed just for that reason but had 2 worse results out of 3 than Italy. Plus Italy were the better team vs Germany and also missed a penalty which would've made them finish top of the group let alone qualify) & 2004 it's extremely rare to be eliminated from a group where you get a win and 2 draws with zero defeats. The 2 eventual finalists that year would've massively struggled a lot vs Italy had either of them had to face them.
2 shootout exits 2008 (vs Spain who dominated World football 2008 to 2012 the latter was Italy's other Euro's final defeat) & 2016 (vs Germany the reigning WorldChampions) Italy were better than the eventual winners of that competition (Portugal) it's just Italy kept having to play the best teams every round while Portugal avoided everyone (Italy, Spain, Belgium & Germany) and were still unconvincing.
Southgate has taken England to a level higher than anyone since 66, he has nullified the pressure on his players better than anyone and he has built a unified squad who want to play for each other. The trouble is that he is a defender with a risk averse mentality and hardly the best tactician in the world and under him this is the best the team can be. I would love to see him stay but step down to coach the things he excels at. Alongside him I would love to see Pep Guardiolla or someone of his stature and nouse taking charge of England. Then we would win something.
Yeah agreed he has done well but can’t quite get them over the line when it matters most - in finals. Seen calls for Klopp to take it on. That would be something 🔥
The media and all the over hype and over analysis is the curse of England fc
Englqnd always has good players so they need a boss that can eliminate all of the pointless pressure from the depressing pressssssssss gangs
the reason England don't win shit is because of the fa.
they are men running the team who have never played the game.
they need a coach with passion, balls, leadership, good knowledge of the game and who is well respected.
the only reason why we have the best players in the world is because the clubs want to win by any means so they get the best coaches.
but what does that stand for when you have a man who was a shit player, soft character and really has no idea about how to win as the manager.
come on man.
It's funny how on the back pages they are saying England are shit they put saka on the cover when he has had the most man of the matches for England.
mark my words England won't make it out of the group and again as an English man I wouldnt give a shit.
The EPL no longer attracts the best players in the world.....that's the point! If it did, then Vinicius Jnr, Bellingham, Mbappe, etc would all be playing for English clubs - not elsewhere. You could argue that we no longer attract the best managers either - look at United, Chelsea, Newcastle. It's delusional to think that we do - either in terms of players or managers.
The days when we went toe to toe with La Liga clubs are over. I think in a few years time the EPL will be overtaken by Series A. The Italian league is slowly on the way back. Give it another five years and by 2030 we'll be losing players to Serie A - just like we did in the 90's.
Everything goes in cycles. The EPL is now on a gradual decline, and Serie A, on a gradual rise.
With you bro. Until the yes man ting is done, so are we.
The federations in Italy or Germany are not exactly run by competent men either.
Made it to the qf but will mostly likely get knocked out by the Swiss hopefully Southgate will get sacked I’d like to see Poch or Potter in the job
I agree with most of what you said, but I disagree with your "really has no idea about how to win as the manager" comment.
The one thing that Southgate knows is how to win, at all costs - it doesn't matter how you play, if you go behind, as long as you win the game then that's all that matters. It is also one of his big criticisms because people aren't accepting that he's willing to win (whatever the cost/playstyle entertainment) at the risk of playing unappealing football
English FA is like an entittled parent: brings its child (english football team) to a competition and always gets surprised when that child *is not given the 1st place trophy* instantly.
This video aged like a fine wine 😂
I am portuguese , and i understand the pain of what English People can feel right now!!!
We never won anything till 2016! And We never stopped to beleive that someday we will capture our first title , what i can say is!!! man it was so great and what a joy it was for our country when we finally won it. I hope someday you guys from england will feel this Joy. This feeling that your country is the champions is incredible...
Keep faith.. cheers from Portugal ❤❤❤❤
Don't forget that your team won another trophy 3 years later, a nations league
If we look at the 8 countries that have won the world cup, 7 have won 4 or more international tournaments.
England won the world cup, in England. They didn't have to qualify, they played every game at Wembley. This is not a track record of a power house football nation. Expect something similar, and you won't be disappointed.
Fair point!
Not sure if it was HiTC Sevens whom studied Englands’ progress through the 1966 event but the interpretation demonstrated how the team were more often than not on the good end of refereeing decisions along with the overall politics of the tournament weighing in their favour. I’ve never heard an alternative narrative or critical take on 1966 but it was a real eye opener. 👍
Great stat! Every other WC winner wins in different generations
they also cheated their way through the final!
Euro should go back to the original finals format of 8 teams in 2 groups....that will spare everyone from watching third tier teams qualifying and play useless games that serve only to boost the chances of 2nd tier teams like england & Switzerland
They need to be able to beat big teams when it matters most. England have done well in recent tournaments because they played teams that were not that good or not as good as they use to be like Germany in the last Euro or teams at the level of Colombia or Senegal. I do think England will do well this Euro hopping they win cause I'm English and I've never seen England win a single tournament in my lifetime. I also do believe that luck wasn't on our side in crucial moments like the last Euro or World cup. They need to be able to beat the big teams without going to penalties or even Extra time for that matter. Look at Argentina for example they scrapped by and suffered to win a world cup even with Messi and all they’re talented players. However in crucial moments Messi stepped up , Martinez rose to the occasion or the other players raised they’re game.
As an English man, i have hope for the future as we've come so close twice in 3 years. Not to mention that the players have huge potential. But this isn't me being overhyped as there are times i just know we won't win games due to either tactical reasons or who is playing. And i feel it will come home again. But after a long long long while..
Well, there's a chance of it happening in 2028 since GB is gonna host euros in that year
@@catprincesses5035 that's a good point 👍
The press hype some players so much, they believe there world class and there not,,
'04 (the year Greece won) was the one that got away. Rooney in the international form of his life until his injury, and even then Campbell had a late winner ruled out in the QF.
Who is here after euro final 2024?
saying that the Premier League has never been conquered by an English coach in its history, then talking about 1966 is a bit misleading, considering the Premier League era only started in 1992. An English manager won the top division the year before with Leeds, nevermind legendary English managers like Brian Clough or Bob Paisley.
Not really misleading when it’s a fact.. the PL hasn’t been won by an English manager 🤷♂️
@@YourFootballZone I mean it’s technically true but it implies a lot more that “they’ve never won the premier league in history” then “never won the top division since 1992”, especially when 1966 is brought up the next second. The premier league is just the same top flight of English football, the difference being that it was broadcasted on television, so I don’t understand the obsession people have with saying stuff based on it being since the “premier league”.
Exactly, it skips from 1966 straight to 1992. To be fair the England teams of the 70s & 80s were dreadful beyond belief, I remember Euro 80 being particularly bad. People often forget the English teams were dominating European football from the mid 70s to mid 80s. However the national team were utter shite during that period. The 82-85 period England was god awful.
among the problems, assumptions like the premier is the best league... where Spaniards are the managers leading the board year in year out.
and considering that because it's the best league in self promoting and making money, means it's the best league in the field...
fair point but the Premier League is the most-watched league in the world so probably only fair that they make the most money..
Because we lose too teams like Iceland and an Italy with an average age of 76
Italy is the owner of England in tournaments... they are just the better football country
You've said it yourself. England in knockout games are likely to lose against any team, whether it's geriatric, average or simply too good.
@@karabomafa5609I can't see them now
Where are they 😳🤔
@@Randomaccount9470 at home with their 🌟🌟🌟🌟 WCs and 🌟🌟 Euro's... Lol what are you getting at?
@@Randomaccount9470 Italy - 2 Euros one being in your own stadium in front of your own fans
England - 2 Euro finals and 2 consecutive losses
Who's here after england are in the final...
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Me only reason I’m watching the vid 😂
me
Me but we're still gonna lose
@@proaimwl1923 Perhaps you'll win something after Harry Kane retires from the national squad. It's uncanny at this point.
@Tony.795 that game was funny, why was England even in the final if they were going to lose
The country who invented Football the greatest sport of all time, haven't won the trophy for 60 years
Well, in 1966 Christmas came early. This year's championship was offered to England. They were heavily helped to defeat Portugal and reach the final. From the change of field to another city not respecting the initial draw, damaging Portugal to a goal from Eusébio that the referee didn't want to see.
It didn't bribed at all
Thank you, very interesting. I was too young alas to remember the 1966 world cup. But as an 8 yr old fanatic, I remember all too clearly the horror of the 1970 qtr final defeat to W Germany, after being 2-0 up on 70 minutes. It remains the single most painful for me all these years later, and perhaps was the baseline for the next 50 years.
On your point about club rivalries impeding the national effort: the FA realised there was some sort of underlying malaise by the mid to late 70s. In this period, Liverpool - then populated mainly by English players, Emlyn Hughes et al - were dominant at home and in Europe. We experimented for a shorth while by cramming the national team with Liverpool players, But this was soon abandoned.
Hello, my friend, seems we are roughly of the same age. Sorry, a German speaking here. The Wembley final in 1966 was the very first most important football match I ever watched at the age of 8. It was quite exciting, abeit I barely understood what it was all about and what it really meant. After the match we, the boys of the block re-played the game between some garages with a tennisball, haha. And, yes, the 3:2 in the heat of Mexico has always been a highlight for us, but even more important was the 3:4 defeat against Italy in the semi-finals. I think the first German victory a t a l l against England was a 1:0 in 1968 in a friendly in Hannover. Until then Eng vs. Ger normally ended 8:3, 5:1 or 6:2 if not even worse ( from the Ger perspective). From the Mexico WC on you could have called me a football fanatic too. After the Italy-Brazil final I calmed down significantly, we wouldnt stand a chance against Brazil, no doubt about it. Anyway, after all those years and decades the question remains why England actually didnt win a single trophy that counts. You can find many answers here or in discussions of the leading football pundits. I have to admit, I dont know. Three years ago I thought, well, they‘ve beaten us in Wembley which will set free enough energy to finally win the EC cup. I didnt doubt that for a second. But you know, we suffered a lot from the Italiens and they were always at their best when all odds were seemingly against them. So, terribly enough for England the unexpected actually happened. In my opinion, and that may surprise you, the German team will not go to the semi-finals this year. German football is seriously damaged since 2018 and at best recovery has only begun recently. England? In all honesty, I would like to see the EC, or even better, the WC trophy in the hands of your captain, believe it or not. But in my sixties now I think Football‘s just a game and life will go on, with or without the trophy in our hands.
@@lowersaxon Many thanks Thomas. You are correct about need for perspective and I of course should have said the 1970 match was my most painful memory associated with the England team. I would have been v lucky if the worst thing that happened to me in life was a football match 50 yrs ago:) You mentioned Hannover and from your user name I assume you are from thereabouts. I have great memoires of working in Hannover in 1988.
England were hosts in 66’ it was as much a fluke as Greece winning the Euros when they hosted. England are not one of those elite footballing nations. They have the strongest league filled with players and managers from all over the world, and it is by far the wealthiest league, but this is no divine right to trophies. England are perennial underachievers who feel as if they are in the same conversation as Brazil Argentina Germany Italy France and Spain. England are on par with the Netherlands as far as tournament legacy. If a sense of entitlement and a false sense of superiority won trophies Englands cabinet would be full.
Greece didn’t host Euros in 2004. Portugal did
@@EliasRoy I think he means that England winning in 1966 was as much of a fluke as Greece winning in 2004. While I don't necessarily agree, I do think that England are clearly a level below the absolute top nations historically
And now England will be versing the Netherlands 😢
@@AW-zk5qb That is a fair assessment. Statistically England are on a par with Portugal but stylistically and have more in common with Belguim. People shouldn’t expect any more from them than the Belgians do from their team. Until people accept it, they will be condemned to eternal disappointment and failure. It’s only when you accept that fact, however unpleasant, that you can then begin to make some progress. It’s like being an addict, you have to accept that you are something that you don’t like the idea of.
A big reason I think is because of the pressure from the fans. You all should just be like Scotland or Ireland. Just go to the tournament, have fun, have no expectations, and if something happens act surprised. It might work.
@@christopherjonesguitartuit6127 Brazilian fans cry when they lose, English fans riot and the media blasts them. London would have burned down if England lost to Germany 7-1 in 1966. Brazil fans cried about it like children.
Is there really such a thing as a curse? Maybe it's just that England haven't been good enough. They are no good at penalty shootouts and they don't try hard enough and they don't play to win.
It’s that bloody Three Lions song which is a curse in my opinion 👍
They tried hard in the qf of the 2022 wc.
England and harry kane
What a combo of curse
Let's start with the richest league in Europe "The Premier League" it maybe the richest and most popular league in the world but I reckon it's overrated and underwhelming compared to La Liga (Spain), Serie A (Italy) or the Bundesliga (Germany). The problems begin with the so called "Tall Poppy Syndrome" within the national team and yes the egos do clash at times and the rivalries between the big clubs are very intense and at times "very toxic" between the fans, the media & of course the players. I also feel that the way England won the World Cup in 1966 was off the back of their style of play using tactics like "Physicality & Brute Force" by targeting the top players like Pele & Eusebio with hard fouls and physical exertion.
Speaking of England's style of play, one: It's outdated, two: It's boring and predictable, three: it lacks creativity and flair, and four: it lacks cohesion and chemistry. What I've noticed about England is also it's lack of identity within it's own country and the way the national team is viewed by the media and the fans particularly by the media who I reckon have a so called "Bipolar Disorder" where they hype up and endorse the team so much one day and then brutaly chastise the team the next day instead of sympathising and encouraging the team through tough periods.
Over the years they're playing styles have improved but a lack of patience and faith by the FA, the fans & the media of constant failures does also affect the mental state of the players on the park so players go into a pattern of thinking and a "Fear of failure" mentality which is a dangerous way of thinking instead of instilling belief of "We can win this" mentality which causes players to play a "safe & low risk" type football instead of "High risk & high reward" mentality where it just being predictable, ultra defensive, and relying on opposition to make mistakes instead of taking the opposition head on, in trying to crack the opposition defences.
You are 100% correct.
It is a lot hype about the pl when in fact, they normal league
@@marvinbrando722In comparison to a leagues where clubs win nine titles in a row?
I think its down to a general habit/conditioning of not winning, or constant losing. Its the part we play.
What’s going to fix it?
@@YourFootballZone Its not easy or quick, but it starts with all the media being nothing but constructive, which is then picked up by the fans. Did you see any clips of the Dutch fans? The only clips Ive seen of English fans running away from some Serbs they were winding up, and some guy passed out with a pint pot on his head. You know theres going to be ignorant violence when England lose. Same as it ever was.
England players need to fight for each other..
Imagine if britian decided to go to war with spain because the spanish won, and britain began their empire again so they could have some feeling of victory.
🇪🇸 2008 - 2012 🏆🏆🏆
With the DADDY of all club rivalries 😂😂
From what I know the spanish national team often suffered from the rivalry between Barcelona and Madrid. It was different between 2008 and 2012. They put their rivalry aside and won everything in that period.
@@Harry-tb8yo Something their fraudulent golden generation couldn’t do
@@Harry-tb8yo It's not just rivalry... Madrid & Barcelona are bigger than the National team.. They put Spanish football on the map & the National team has always played 2nd fiddle or worse... Still today it's not as important as it is compared to National teams from other Countries like Brasil, Argentina, Italy, Germany & even England whose National teams put them on the map
Expensive primadonnas do not a great national team make.
For that you would need a healthy national pride and love for your country.
Now, go back and look what has changed in the English national teams since 1966.
In 1966 they only won by 2 goals gifted by the ref
And a semifinal daylight robbery against Eusebio and his Portuguese teammates.....the poster game for biased refereeing. That 1966 ghost has been stalking the 3 lions for 58 years!!!
Rubbish.
@@kasherimilkong1036 Eusebio was posing. If he had put himself out, instead of restricting himself to taking corners, free-kicks and throw-ins they might have won. Even Mario Coluna had a go at him.
I think it goes back to the curse of bobby charlton substitution in 70 2-0 up v Germany .Charlton is playing the game of his life .Ramsey takes him off with 20mins to go .We lose 3_2 ...England tragedy ever since .
England's crap, that's why.
So simple. And you didn't need so much minutes to explain it
Then what the golden generation of Beckham, Gerrard and Lampard .... And what about this golden generation....
I went through the entire cycle of hope, disappointment, despair and grief during the first 95 minutes of the Slovakia match....and then....
Is this finally their time? 🤔😬
@@YourFootballZone
Nope
Spain said otherwise
England are just not strong enough for football
refereeing injustice? How about winning your ONLY tournament ever with refereeing injustice 😂
It’s pretty simple, international tournaments are a knock out competition. Any bad luck or one bad game your out.
Well obviously.. but a nation like England should have at least won the competition by now
@@YourFootballZone Not necessarily, only one nation can win the tournament. They only come round every two years, I always thought if international tournaments were played in a league format England would have won more. It doesn’t really have anything do with hype or the media, other nations do exactly the same. The Spanish for example had players who hated each other and their media is worse than ours. They still had 4 years of success.
@@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 hmm there’s still been plenty of opportunities to win tournaments. Spain have 1 WC & 3 EUROs, Italy have 4 WC & 2 EUROs, France 2 WC & 2 EUROs, Germany 4 WC & 3 EUROs. England are consistently ranked amongst the top 5 nations in the world yet are still stuck on 1 WC from 1966. Will see what this year brings anyway
@@YourFootballZone Of course there have been opportunities to win it, but that’s where the luck part comes in. Spain won 75% of their trophies in a 4 year spell. Germany historically have been like Real Madrid in the way they are not the best team at the tournament but find a way to win it, Italy’s trophies are sporadic and usually by being superb defensively. There have been some very very poor England performances over the years, but sometimes your luck just isn’t in.
Has nothing to do with luck
Question: how did England (ok, Team GB) do in the Olympics?
They didn’t compete..
@@YourFootballZone
Is that a polite way of saying they didn’t manage to qualify?
(🇪🇸 - 🇫🇷 was quite fun)
For God's sake, if the Mexican national team, which is not a good team, has a confederations cup and a gold medal in soccer and England, the one who invented soccer has nothing, just a stolen World Cup 😂
Every year we get to here how great the English team is and how they should be feared and then we can’t wait for them to lose
Fair 😂
In my opinion, the winning of a future title is a matter of hard work and not only in terms of football, even more so in working on the mental chip. Spain started becoming successful in foitball after having scrapped the nickname of "La Furia Roja". Defining themselves as furiuos was counterproductive because fury makes you lose control. The English team, public and media need to get rid of their stubbornness and entitlement of wanting to "bring back home "their" football trophies". If they don't get more humble in their approach, they very likely won't win anything if it's not a matter of luck.
Because they're not as good as they think. That's why 😂
Through the 70s, 80s, 90s the issue compared to other International top sides back then was that England were too often less professional in their preperation and fitness going into tournaments and they had less game management to go and win games they should have won and see the opposition off.
Jump to present day, England teams tend not to move the ball quick enough or pass as well as the likes of Spain, Argentina etc to break down all the teams that sit back and defend going for a counter goal. Most International sides are highly disciplined and well coached now and will sit back and defend in numbers against strong sides and then counter.
If an international side is going to win, they have to be highly technically proficient and consistent at passing and moving the ball quickly to beat these sides. England, whilst they do have some very good players who are not overhyped, they simply dont move the ball fast enough or proficiently enough compared to the few elite international sides that are capable of winning a WC or a Euros.
After this tournament, the lyrics of that bloody song can be altered to “60 years of hurt “ & the curse will be broken.
Just letting every england fan know that ronaldo has one euro and england still has zero
England cheated the one World Cup that they think they won. You’re just not good enough. I heard Talk Sport say that Kane is the best player in Germany and Bellingham is the best player in Spain. There’s your answer, you overrate yourselves. Football is a Latin game.
Jordan Pickford has been great for England! no don't play both saka on each wing, Foden is shit on the wing and it is a waste. Southgate has brought team spirit to England, that he learned from Euro 1996, the only thing he does wrong is he waits way too long for subs.
Same reason why for example Poland never won it.
Not good enough.
😂😂 don’t think Poland have been past the QF’s!
@@YourFootballZoneThe reason stays the same.
England had the easiest possible way to the final, and failed vs the first real test.
Not to forget, how poor the performance against weaker teams was.
Simple.
They are England 😂
A loser mentality. Grab the game by the scruff of the neck. Shake the absolute shite out of the opposition by letting the attacking talent play with freedom. Lift that trophy.
But, no! We've got Southgate. 😢
It's like you are Nostradamus. Predictably, every time we took the lead or miraculously equalise, we sit back and defend and try and see the game out to extra time & pens.
Someone, luck allowed us to get to the final
Letting yourself go a goal down against a team as good as Spain is a recipe for disaster.
They managed to scrape through a couple of games prior to that but they were lucky. Perhaps because they had done it before they thought it would be the same. Complacency is their biggest problem
England needed a better right-back, Walker was at fault for both goals.
96’ 21’ biggest fumbles
Every other Euros were the smallest? Lol
Italy is always gonna be better than England 😂😂😂
@@seveng1147didn’t qualify for World Cup last year😂
96 was pretty unlucky. 21 we were lucky to get to penalties. Italy should've beat us in normal time lmao.
Can add 24' to the list
England has won the euros many times. The English Media tat is. Always arrogantly proclaiming its coming home. Lousy quality players,,,, Slowly wait Maybe 3024 euros will come home
A lack of decent Brithish management is the main issue. Years ago, England had a great selection of English managers to pick from the only problem was they would always pick the safe hands instead of the most talented and astute mangers. Imagine picking Ron Greenwood over Brain Clough and Roy Hodgson over Harry Redknapp or anyone at all, really. So again, England has a talentless manger with all the charisma of a dead tortoise leading some of the most talented players in the world to inevitable and totally embarrassing defeat. When will the F.A of Englad get tired of this shameful and tedious mediocrity. Maybe when they do, they will get a seriously talented manager for England. Jugen Klopp needs a hobby 🤔
The English FA could go after any manager in the world, regardless of nationality, pretty much since the beginning of its existence.
Your answer makes no sense.
@SKa-tt9nm
Yeah, that's cos it's not muppet friendly.
Ron Greenwood over Clough was the correct choice as Ron was far and away Britain's best coach and better adapted to international football than Clough would have been. The job of a club manager is basically motivation which is why Clough was so good. The club manager has to motivate a small group of players at regular, short intervals, even when they do not feel like playing. The international manager must have an idea of the kind of team which will, with very little practice, blend into a team ten times a year. His most vital function is not motivation but selection. The club manager is pragmatic; the international manager should be concerned with the broader development. That was not Clough's forte and the pressure of the job would have made his alcoholism worse.
What made Ron Greenwood great was that he coached West Ham to play real football not English ‘fight-ball’. This was emphasised when West Ham beat Swiss team Lausanne en route to winning the European Cup Winners Cup in 1965. Afterwards their manager Karl Rappan said, ‘West Ham cheated they didn’t play English football.’
Another fact that is not often appreciated by English critics is that other managers are successful because they have a lot of really talented players at their disposal, and a manager cannot do a good job without the necessary resources in terms of human material. So, Southgate has performed a minor miracle.
Statistically England are on a par with Portugal but stylistically have more in common with Belguim. People shouldn’t expect any more from them than the Belgians do from their team. The idea that England is some sort of elite footballing nation is nonsense and only has its roots in the fact that the game originated in these islands, but it was the Scottish who really adapted and refined it.
The World Cup victory in 1966 was due to home advantage, a handful of their best players ever, three of whom - Peters, Moore & Hurst were developed by England’s best ever coach - Ron Greenwood, whose West Ham side didn’t play traditional English football.
The success at club level in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s was greatly assisted by Scots, Welsh and Irish players.
England have never produced players skilful enough (with a handful of exceptions) for the very highest international standards due to the league’s physical, results-oriented football (which is what the fans really want) and because we have still not accepted the fact that coaching is a vital part of the game.
Another fact that is not often appreciated by English critics is that other managers are successful because they have a lot of really talented players at their disposal, and a manager cannot do a good job without the necessary resources in terms of human material.
@Ruda-n4h
Clough was able to win and retain the European cup even with his alcoholism which by the way, was not that uncommon at the time. Alcoholism was not treated as a health issue but a matter of personal weakness, which was a familys own affair to deal with. So, in the end, that made even a discussion of the subject a social minefield.
Also, saying that England hasn't had enough world-class players is a weak argument when we consider that both Greece and Denmark have been able to win the Euros. Had they got better players than England, I don't think so.
The problem with the 1966 World Cup win was that after 1966, England's F.A. and England mangers believed they couldn't learn anything from another nations' playing style or training methods.
English teams have been able to win and even dominate Europe because they actually learnt from playing in Europe and used what they had learned to get better, but the English F.A. and their loyal servants like Ron, Roy, and Gareth aren't interested in learning or changing. It's an attitude that's beyond understanding.
Because they believe they have a divine right to win. Put all your money and resources into getting better tactics and you win. It’s a choice. Rather than turn up believing we are so much better than everyone else. Look at Athletics or rowing or cycling. They succeed on a fraction of what football has in england
There are a few reasons why England underachieve that i think are not looked at here.
1. Training/ coaching. England players are coached to play a role for their clubs. They are generally one-footed, not technical enough and unable to play even slightly different roles, causing incompatibility with other similar players in the team. The dirth of players who could use their left foot unbalanced the team. For professional players this is embarrassing.
2. Not enough English managers leaving innovation absent from England academies and a lack of respect to England managers from players who have typically achieved a lot more than the manager. No English manager has ever won the EPL. Only 2 English managers have ever beaten a Guardiola side. Depending on your definition there are only 4-6 English managers in top Leagues in Europe. Almost more Danish or Austrian managers which on a per capita basis is ridiculous.
3. This is more nuanced, but since WW1 there has been a split in English schools when it comes to sport. Posh, or at least aspirational schools, played Rugby and Cricket. Other schools played football. I think this has lead to a lack of 'academic rigour' around the thinking/ creative positions in the formative years for English players who can be coached into behaviours but might not know the why, or the theory around positional play. We always seem to have physically gifted players but not the creatives and seem distrustful of them.
The answers to 1 is academy programme implementation guidelines from FA. St George's park will help train flexible England style and develop genuine 2 footed players.
2. Should be FA support for coaching programmes, bursaries and outreach. Try to keep successful ex-players within the game rather than pundits.
3. Is schools outreach and training/ coaching overhaul.
Gradually things will get better, but its a pyramid. With more managers there are more likely to be a successful candidate with more technical players they are more likely to be tactically flexible etc
Nowadays England has the talent pool (still not sure whether its comparable to France, Germany or Brazil) but they can be successful if they can get a good manager
Would argue that England have always had multiple top players at any given time. There are multiple reasons as we identified but a winning manager could be the answer for sure!
They already have been at that point. They had all that e.g. in 2010, a lot of talent and one of the best managers around. But even a title collecting man like Fabio Capello was not able to get them to a semifinal. Always keep in mind that there is an opponent who wants to prevent you from playing well.
@@Harry-tb8yo true comment! Due to the English hype, teams want to beat England even more 🤷♂️
@@YourFootballZone Not sure about the players themselves but at least the viewers like that. 🙂
No…England don’t have winning mentality at national level..expect the usual nations like France, Italy and Germany to grow into the tournament..Spain may do well also…
England is just a B+ Player like Netherlands or Croatia.
There are many good teams who are not destined to win anything.
England lost in the final... AGAIN
I think the difference is the British are quite a sociable as we love or pubs and social clubs compared to other nations. I love how the Germans see taking a penalty as a great honour where with the English we’re petrified that we’ll end up in a Pizza Hut commercial. Plus we have very good players but also our education system crushes any trace of individuality out of people that’s why we end with bland leaders like Sunak , Starmer and Southgate. Come on England! 🏴
it because after 66 theres no other team in the world can match how overated English FA is..
England just doesn't play great football like a top team. If England was a premiership club, it would be at the bottom end of the table.
2 bad things for England.
1.) If they have to face France they need to play against Mbappé. And he simply would tear their "decent" defense apart together with Griezmann. And a medioker goalie as Pikford isn't able to stop those 2. Remember last world cup Mbappé made a hattrick in the final. He was the first player ever to make a hattrick in a world cup final.
2.) It's to bad for the people of England Haaland choose to play for Norway instead of England. Because he also have the English citizenship. Because he was born in Leeds when his father was playing for Leeds United.
Mbappe wasnt the 1st
Compelling argument, well presented. It’s clear why the don’t win, and probably never will.
Thanks bro 🙌🏼 you fancy the Swiss to beat England?
You could say the same about Italy, France or Spain but they still win.
What’s the difference with England then?
@@YourFootballZonethey‘re LOSERS
Using the term "Golden generation" while speaking about English media hype for the players is nothing short of insane. All these players shine in their clubs but it's not them carrying the clubs, it's players from other countries. Even a managerial heavyweight like Fabio Capello couldn't get them to a semifinal. And let's not forget that national teams from other countries back then were also stacked with quality players. It's not like England were a team of superstars and other countries could just pick nobodies. The vast majority of English players are by far not as good as they are made to believe by the media.
And then there is the mentality and England clearly lacks the right mentality. What do you think happens in Italy, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Netherlands and France if their national teams play poorly? They are also being heavily criticized but they don't moan and whine about that and instead they put effort into bouncing back and often enough they succeed. On a side note I want to come back to the term "Golden generation". This term is usually being used by countries that have won little or nothing and at some point have an exceptional collection of players that might do something meaningful. Bulgaria and Romania mid 90s were examples, Portugal around the 2000s with Figo and Rui Costa, Czech Republic or Belgium in recent years. England is the only World Cup winning country that uses such a term. No other current or former World Champion does that. Maybe that's a hint that people might hope but do not actually believe.
Could argue that Saka has been Arsenals best player last couple seasons and Palmer was definitely Chelsea’s best player last season. But get your point. Think England fans would rather see exciting football that utilises the players than boring defensive football we are seeing this tournament. Will see what tomorrow brings 🤷♂️
Bro got a beef with arsenal 😂
England is too overconfident, which leads them to fumble when going against teams that are far better than them.
I say this as an England fan. We are really cocky.
@@caspy-fnnot at all. The fans you’d have a point. But our team’s issue is the complete opposite. They’re not confident at all and don’t try to take and chances or risks because they’re scared of it backfiring. And it causes our players to practically just stand there as a result
@@MsMorningstar000 Especially Saka. He is a great player, he lines up perfect goals, but doesn't commit and ends up fumbling them. I see what you mean, but overall I think it's a mix of both. We don't challenge ourself, and we also think we're better than we are