Magnus Carlsen ILLEGAL MOVE
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Can I get pinned for absolutely no reason lol
Thanks lol
Pin of why the hell not!!
Tf lol
Pin of shame
Pin of sham- oh no wait
Whoever makes the first illegal move loses, that first referee was high off his ass.
unfortunately if an illegal move goes unnoticed by the opponent its considered legal
@@balika8878source: my balls
@@balika8878if the first move was legal, magnus respond should be legal too. His move is only illegal if the first move was illegal too.
@@Chris-te7ukbut it was? He was in check, even though it was illegal so he did the exact same illegal move by responding
@@equinoxxed_7502escaping your king to get him unchecked is in fact not an illegal move dimwit
And he sacrifices THE REFEREE
Why did Magnus also make an illegal move? I find it hard to believe it was a mistake
Magnus didnt even do illegal move he was checked so he responded
Not taking a hanging king js the greatest betray of the ultimate and ever elusive objective of the game. And the ref personally was offended that Magnus didn’t take the once-in-lifetime opportunity to capture the king. Such a missed opportunity of the ultimate (although ever elusive) objective of the game is adequately described as quasi illegal. You just gotta take the hanging king. lol
I think if you give a check and your opponent ignores it and plays an illegal move, you should be allowed to capture their king.
Magnum used his aura
In this situation insted of running away with my king, I'd've just simply taken his
This is a no brainer, it's not Magnus' responsibility to point out his opponent is in check, not at this level. Senior referee got it right.
I do not see how Magnus's move was illegal. He moved his king out of check. Nothing wrong with that.
It is the first person who does the legal move, right
Magnus should win because it means that illegal move was done because of the first illegal move.
“I should win because I cheated and he didn’t notice” LOGIC 💯
@@HolySword31245 magnus's move wasnt even illegal... he responded as if he was checked
@@ctldoesstuff7375 fr
@@HolySword31245learn how chess works
@@HolySword31245 the illegal move was made because he didn't notice.. bro use your brain
@@HolySword31245 he made the illegal move because he DIDN'T notice
imagine Magnus just takes the guy's king with his rook and stare at his soul lmao.
Yup, should've done this instead to rub it off on the opponent's face.
"bUt hE MaDe tHE lAsT iLlEGaL mOve"
Bro stfu 😂
i mean thats the usual way of appealing the illegal move.
E
@E who are u
drunk Magnus will take his soul and stare at his king
He should’ve taken the king ChatGPT vs Stockfish style
That game was crazy
It's called danger levels. They check you, you check them
YOLOOOOO
Solution: take their king
And chickadee check yourself before you wreck yourself
Equal or greater value is what levy preaches, king=king soooo
Bro did a king trade
Imagine claiming someone should lose because they didn't realise you cheated
and the first ref give him the win 💀
@@reivaldoaurelio4895first ref is retarded
It shouldn’t be cheating though. They are so inconstant with their rules its humorous
i think all of america hates referees
thats the last resort in foursquare
The first judge should be forced to eat the chess board
I think he should just be forced to eat pizza.
Caught me off guard because I was looking for opinions😂😂
Thats actually a good idea
first judge made the right dicision. magnus lost the game because he make the last illegal move.
@@markgonczy8293 shhh, dont say things like that to magnus fanboys
He sacrifices THE RULES
Senior referee: CONSEQUENCES 🔫
Completely underrated comment
I’m just imagining Gotham shouting this line
How was Magnus making a illegal move?
How is magnus moving his king an illegal move?
Bro wtf. His whole arguement was really, "well I fucked up but he didn't catch it fast enough so I should win."
Reminds me of Uno
makes no sense😭
Rules are rules...
u remind me of an actor i had on my school they wanted to curse to seem cool but they looked weird af
@@bobyman_6262 true
it’s not an illegal move
it’s *sacrificing THE KING*
it's the republican gambit
😭😭
La France Revolution Gambit !!
I love this comment LOL. I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY SIR
I heard it lol. "sacrificing... THE KINGGGGG"
Magnus' brain: I'll move my king here and next move will be mate in negative one.
There is no debate here, the one who made the first mistake should be punished
no. the last mistake loses. that being said, there is no rule in chess that says "you have to take the king, if possible".
So only one person made a mistake.
@@gehlesen559 this isnt about what the rules say, its about how we think it should be
@@gehlesen559 pull up the rule that says the last mistake loses and show it.
@@rafaelgabrielgarlinidal-bo9496
Have you ever played in a tournament? And have you ever repeated moves, or have you ever touched (/adjusted) several of your pieces without saying "j'adoube"?
And when your opponent had forgotten to claim remi/victory, was he able to do so 30 turns later?
That's the rule. If a rule is violated, but no one notices it and the game continues normally, then the game goes on.
You can't claim "20 turns ago we repeated moves, I want remi now" or "42 moves ago you touched your Knight but moved a pawn - I win."
And the same goes for rule violations.
@@gehlesen559 We had a misunderstanding here. I am talking about that match in the video. I am talking about misplacing pieces. You are talking about proper chess etiquette, things that can easily go unnoticed. Once a piece is put at the wrong place tho, it's hard to ignore it.
FIDE says in its rule 7.3 (under the article 7: "Irregularities") that if a player displaces one or more pieces, he must re-establish the correct position using his time. If necessary, the arbiter can be called, and he can penalise the player who displaced the pieces.
Rule 7.4a says that if an illegal move is made, the game must continue from the last identifiable position. Clocks go back according to the arbiter's judgement (R6.13) and the illegal move must be redone with the piece touched (R4.3)
R7.4b explains the penalty for making illegal moves: for the first and second illegal moves from that player, opponent gains 2 minutes. Third time, the player loses, unless the position cannot be won, which in that case is a draw.
That's what I was actually talking about: getting the rules. Better than butting heads in the comment section.
source: fide.com/FIDE/handbook/LawsOfChess.pdf
Should have just taken the King with King and then just deadass stare him in the eyes
W profile photo
Yes
Nah bro the arbiter makes you restart the game if you capture the king💀
LMAAO
😂😂😂
The fact a chess master and 1 ref actually thought magnus should have lost is shocking.
The chess master was his opponent what'd you expect
He shoulve lost tho its in the rules
@@maximilianzaff2822 His opponent made the first illegal move
@@maximilianzaff2822 if you shoot me and out of reflex I shoot you, I should go to jail right? Do you hear how that sounds?
@@djomni115 and he made the last illegal move
I would have just taken the opponent’s king since if I can take your king on my move, your last move MUST have been illegal.
If they started it, Magnus should win as the first illegal move couldn’t be played and if you cheat you lose the game
I agree how you gonna say someone made an illegal move if you moved illegally first
@@Whydidtheymakehandles and magnus didn’t make an illegal move. He made a legal move that is illegal because the other person made an illegal move. I guess legal move is saying hey you made a mistake but low on time you have no time to even say a sentence
@@Whydidtheymakehandles because its upto the opponent to call a judge if an illegal move is played.
if you play on an illegal move then you as a player have allowed it to stand
The illegal move was played by magnus opponent. Ref was bribed with a starbucks coupon
@listen it's illegal to make a move when your opponent made a illegal move you have to tell the ref
Magnus opponent offered a king trade 💀
ah yes the game gambit
Fair enough but he become too greedy,i guess..
Be careful it might of been bait!
and he sacrificed... the king!
Magnus would win the trade after he takes the king and his opponent takes the king both of his opponents rooks are hanging
Carlsen wins, opponent made first illegal move
Exactly my point.
This
Exactly...
yeah next move would be checkmate anyway
yeah but he did no see it, so this also is a lack of good play. the opponent did an illegal move because he did not see the check and magnus did not neither. and if i am not mistaken if you don’t notice the illegal move the opponent owes you nothing, but if you play one and the opponent notices you lose. you lose only when caught, the referee was actually right. it’s kinda complicated tho
"And he sacrifices THE KING"
😂😂
Best))
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Lmfao
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
The other guys argument was really "i made a illegal move but he didn't spot it so i should win" 💀
Plus they're low on time, so Carlsen still played a natural move which is obviously illegal by default because all moves after an illegal move are also illegal. Even if it was ruled as Magnus losing, that's not how any honorable man would want to beat their opponent.
Makes sense, you need to be fully concentrated while playing chess
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I find it weird at first, but after giving it some thought, I think the other guy’s argument made sense. Think of it like this, chess is like a simulation of war, and one of the common tactic used in war is diverting your opponent’s attention. So even if Magnus has a sword by his King’s throat, if he can divert Magnus’ attention and cause magnus to fail his mission, then it’s fair to say the dude won.
Doesn't matter if it makes sense only matters if it fits the rulebook.
The game is over the moment an illegal move is made. Magnus responding to the illegal check is irrelevant, as the game was already over
Official ref knows more then you.... thus the ref says otherwise
@@SerkeysTVdid you not watch the whole video, the first ref was wrong ☠️☠️☠️
I mean he was just vibing I guess why so serious
The right result was finally given. Magnus won. Do you really think he didn't know what he was doing? He was making a statement. If the judges can't keep up and see what's being done then why are they there in the first place? His move was only to make that point. However, he probably never thought he would have to appeal. Further ignorance on the part of the one judge.
@@SerkeysTV you watched half the video? 💀
Magnus missed the Gden opportunity to capture his King
Game ends the moment an illegal move is played
Agreed the first one to make an illegal move should lose.
You cannot just say, oh well he didn't spot it it counts... that rewards mistakes and cheating.
Now suddenly you are actually allowed to be a chess hustler at a tournement... that is not what classical chess is about.
If you want your illegal move to count you go play street chess with a real hustler.
I agree. Magnus won
No brainer!
Isn't it two illegal moves before the game ends?
yeah no shit
"Magnus,I made an illegal move but you don't have a right to do that"
*Speech 100*
The first idiot ref agrees lol
I mean that's basically how most 900 games go
Hol’ up, is that a JoJo Reference?
LMAO
@@phylaxinator7040how tf is that a Jojo reference
Bro really said “He started it!”
It takes some real moxie to demand your opponent be disqualified for letting you get away with an illegal move.
And to Magnus Carlson of all people
My response as an arbiter would be to utterly disqualify his bitch ass.
Yeah... a complete and utter loser in every sense of the word
He outsmarted Magnus carlsen in a chess game, by not playing chess right.
That player is known for doing things like that apparently
The first referee was definitely the youngest sibling in his family
I honestly wish the rule was just to take the King if they miss the check. King gets taken, game over. Saves the headache of calling judges, reporting illegal moves, etc.
But tbh, imo, I guess you could say that we couldn't really do anything cause thats just how chess works. Also, it would be weird for us to allow others to eat kings. Kinda eliminates the purpose of checkmate. Idk, not really an avid chess player but ofc still interested with how chess works and do play chess often but I'm not as good to say I'm a professional or whatnot.
That's essentially how it already is, except you're delaying the outcome by one turn. In fact as per your suggested rule change, Magnus should lose this game because he makes the "first" illegal move.
@@alrinzxvbr6425
Well it's not supposed to happen; it's just like if you reach two kings, you move them up to eachother in the center of the board.
It's symbolic, not an actual move in the game.
@@alrinzxvbr6425 idk abt you but we just take the king even if checkmate. It proves to the people saying "how does that work" and I just take the king lol
I think historically (Sanskrit chess) taking the king was usually how the game ended. But if the king was under attack and had to way to avoid capture, it was good etiquette to surrender at that point, since it was a foregone conclusion. In chess variants (eg atomic) it's totally valid to kill the king, and you can respond to check by destroying the enemy king.
Opponent logic: “I cheated, but he cheated right after I did so he loses for cheating”
Yeah seriously. I don’t know the full context, but if that’s the full argument, it is seriously flawed.
scummy but this is what the rules state
Referee agreed*
In table tennis it is exactly like that.
@@Alluxing this is why speed chess is best online.
I think we should double the illegal moves and give it to the next person.
Lol
I’d take the king
True
😂😂😂😂underrated comment
😂😂😂 best comment ever
botez gambit: king variation
Referee: "you're wrong, Magnus."
Senior referee: "you're wrong, referee."
E
😂😂😂
Why was magnus's move illegal?
@duygunurtan3180 Bcuz the first move was illegal. If someone makes an illegal move and you answer with a move, thas baisically illegal, Magnus should've reported it to a referee, but had to little time to do so.
@-_Remson_- oh ok ty👍
That first referee was higher than a god damned wind turbine technician for thinking that the most recent illegal move should be the one that's punished with a loss.
no, thats exactly how it works. but magnus' move was not illegal.
@@p0gr well, Magnus’ move was only illegal in light of the fact that you must take the king if you have mate. He just didn’t even realize it bc of the choice his opponent made
@@paulallenscards wtf are you talking about? taking a king is an illegal move.
@@paulallenscards you can’t capture the king, it’s an illegal move
@@paulallenscards you must play like chatgpt 💀
"AND THEN HE SACRIFICED.......... THE KING!!!!!"
💀
I'm dead 💀
you win.
lmao
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
If it's illegal why are they not being arrested?
They are a threat for society
because its not a felony, just a misdemeanor
@@adios8919 it should be the death penalty
@@adios8919 stfu nerd its a joke
@@adios8919 💀
@@adios8919execution
If someone ever misses a check you should simply just be allowed take the king and win by default.
*CONTINUES PLAYING AFTER KING IS TAKEN*
Agree. Would be the more logical since the goal of chess games is to take down the king of your opponent
I've been thinking for a while now that you could remove checks and just play til a king gets taken and the game itself wouldn't change at all.
except for preventing some retarded stalemates.
This is a civilized world. We don't kill our kings you plebian.
King never kill a king, why u never learn from your predessor? - Salahudin
That’s so idiotic. His opponent makes an illegal move and claim a win? Good thing the senior referee fixed it
@@SimpleAnimation.cringe
@@Side-st6jo your cringe
@@SimpleAnimation. you're the one doing the cringey “X LiKeS aNd nO cOmMeNtS? lEmMe fIx ThAt”
@@Side-st6jo bro idk I just wanted to comment smth and this came to my mind
@@SimpleAnimation. You should of thought of something better that shit was cringe
Imagine if Magnus just took his king like a regular chess piece 😂
Really should of to both highlight the illegal move to the referee and to make a joke out of the situation.
Lol
Why not? Is there a rule saying you can’t?
@@edmel144 Sort of, it's not supposed to be possible since the king has to move out of check and if he can't, the games over.
I would’ve done that 😂😂
Magnus: *takes the king*
Opponent: "wait..."
thats basically what checkmate is, no possible move can save the king from being captured
@@RealBasil143he means literally taking the king off the board as a joke, because it’s not possible
It should be
Why is it not possible?!
That was a dick move by Inarkiev. Magnus was a gentleman for shaking his hand (and getting the win on appeal)
Wasn't Inarkiev known for doing that regularly to try and win on technicality?
@@dccrashergames6553 how to get gm in these few simple steps
you always shake your opponent's hand. and arguing the result with your opponent is pointless, that's what the refs (and appeals) are for.
Atleast Magnus knew he was checked rather than his enemy.
May be he is valuing the king 👑 more than anything
*checked*
Bro really tried to sacrifice the king
THE KINGGGG
THE KINGGG
THE KINGGG
Republican gambit
The rule absolutely HAS to be that the first illegal move is the one that loses. Otherwise, anyone can make an illegal move and hope that the opponent doesn't notice.
illegal moves only "count" if they're raised to the arbiter. after you finished you next move, you cannot do that any more. but magnus' move was not illegal. so the game just continues.
@@p0gr So you are responsible to notice that it's illegal? It's not illegal until you are caught? That's lame if it's true. This isn't crime. This is making an illegal move that is literally against the rules, and someone has to see it and report it before it's considered "actually" illegal.
@@jediprice70 hows that lame? its the fairest i can think of. since the games are not written down in blitz, i dont see another way. in regular chess of course the game is reverted to the position before the illegal move. but still someone has to notice the illegal move to initiate that ...
Honestly the game you're describing seems like fun. You're encouraged to be a bit sneaky.
I'm not saying this should be tournament rules (some of these people specialise in playing blindfolded ffs, they'll spot an illegal move), but I do think it makes for a fun variant. We need to add in a couple dozen more things to keep track of though, to make sure cheating isn't blindingly obvious.
@@MarkusAldawn you missed the whole point of the comment here dumbass, he meant that the rule shouldnt be that the most recent illegal move loses, but that it should be the first illegal move that loses, what do you mean variant?
Yeah, Magnus should win, his opponent basically forfeited by doing an illegal move and letting his King be taken even if Magnus didn't notice. However, how did he not notice!! When I check someone I notice if they check me in response!!
Ain't no way bro just did the King's Gambit
He did better, king sacrifice
@@wahyuibnistnaini4534 and he sacrificed THE KIIIIIIING
@@gabrielbarron7667 Bro ChatGPT moment
💀
King gambits (no pawns involved)
Magnus did not make an illegal move. He merely came out of check.
It's illegal cause the only legal move there is to "take the king" to claim your opponent did an illegal move.
I dont get why the second referee gave Magnus the win, i think rules state that the last illegal move to be called out makes you lose.
@@InfoRome 🤓🤓🤓maybe because the other guy cheated and he just got out of check, and didint notice?
@@InfoRome yo are you seriously saying that. People these days I swear
@@InfoRome nah it’s dumb, pretty sure unless you catch it before making the next move then it won’t be called
I would have just taken the King 💀
Me too 💀
Me too. I will eat the king.
Then you lose right
@@pollux0873 you just cant
What happens if you take the king? Is it illegal or do you just win?
Magnus should have just captured the king. Idk if it's an illegal move but it would just be a boss move.
yea whoever king dies first loses in chess anyways, the "check, stalemate" rule is just stopping it.
😂that technically isnt illegal since the goal is to Capture the king and his opponent allowed it by playing an illegal move
yall are incorrect. capturing the king is in fact not allowed because there is contextually no game state where it is ever allowed to happen.
if you ever could capture a king, your opponent is in check and made an illegal move by not avoiding it.
if your opponent could not possibly avoid it, it's checkmate and the game has ended.
and if you are NOT in check and have NO legal moves because any move you make would PUT you in check, then the game is also over because of a stalemate.
there is no situation where it is ever legal to take a king.
@@ElysaraCh but no one here’s being serious 😂. We know the rules of chess. But since his opponent made an illegal move it would have been funny if he called out his illegal move then captured his king.
hey man sometimes a gal comes in and has to play the "straight man" yaknow?
Definitely whoever did an illegal move first should be handed down a loss.
should just computerized all of the board and some sound will come out if you make an illegal move or something. I mean human very good at doing this.
@rgagregre …maybe, but that gives whoever got the last move a possible chance to find an opportunity to turn a round around.
why is magnus s move illegal?
@@seyken3407 They both did illegal moves.
Guy playing against Magnus left his king in check.
Magnus didn't acknowledge or notify people of the check and instead played on like nothing happened.
Both moves were technically illegal in that case, but one happened because the other happened.
@@stevemc01 why did magnus do an illegal move? because he moved when game was over or what
Def think Magnus is in the right for several reasons:
1. That just reeks of trying to hack a win by manipulation cuz you know you’re toast
2. Magnus’ move was at least *half* legal, since we’re getting into that level of scrutiny
3. If you were to somehow play an entire sequence of like five illegal moves (like you accidentally move a pawn that reveals a bishop check and the two players continue to play regularly like it didn’t happen), there’s no way they’re gonna base that off whoever made the last legal move before it was noticed cuz that’s stupid, they’re gonna declare the whole line void and disqualify whoever made that first illegal move from the match
How was magnus' move illegal at all?
it’s obvious that he won, he could’ve just told the referee if he wanted to
You're wrong
@@esfera2181 Astute observation. Are you replying to my comment or the other reply?
Imagine if Magnus just took his king. Then lost.
"You cheated last so you lose"💀
For those wondering: the chief arbiter didn't declare Magnus was the winner, he said the game should go on, and Magnus's opponent resigned.
This was the right decision, according to FIDE's laws.
Magnus' opponent made an illegal move, but since Magnus played a move after that, it's irrelevant. Magnus' move, however, was completely legal, even if the position was illegal. If Magnus had made an illegal move, he would have lost.
And in blitz and rapid, you don't go back to the position before an illegal move, you just continue from the current position
Because I was wondering what's wrong with Magnus's move
What if Magnus captured the opponent's king.
@@hq3473 then Magnus would have made an illegal move, capturing the king is stated in Fide's rules as an illegal move. He would have lost the game, but no way Magnus would do that, unless perhaps to troll or something
But why is the guy saying "you can't respond to an illegal move by an illegal move"?
Magnus moved the King out of danger into safe, what's illegal about that?
Thank goodness because thats what I thought was the rules
You threw the last punch so therefore you assaulted me.
Golden man 😂
Bro just reported a cop for not arresting him
its like when you throw garbage on someone and say "you touched it last you throw it away"
Good point
i fucking hate that like get up and throw it away
I do like that with my sister
@@AnimatedPlayer poor girl 😭
@@posadist681 wut? she does like that too. Tears a paper and throws at me. Then I throw at you.
Me studying the board to find the illegal move Magnus made.
@Duolingo i think he should have took his king
@@bilalicrothats illegal move, either way magnus shouldve wone
@Duolingo do you know why it would be illegal?
@@leckerp I mean if you think about it, a checkmate happens when no matter what the opponent does next turn they would lose their king
@@EightMinotaur56 yeah but if you think abt it even more it's literally called 'check'mate
Yeah it's 1 thing to ask for a draw. That's something I'm sure magnus might have agreed to, but to suddenly go and ask to win BECAUSE YOU CHEATED is....admitting you cheated...cheaters loose by default.
The opponent was the only one who made an illegal move. Magnus' move was legal: he moved out of check. The position was illegal, not the move.
yeah no, because he moved it makes it impossible to appeal for an illegal move, but magnus himself did no illegal move so idk why Gotham is calling it illegal
Thank god I didn't lose all sense of chess 😂 I'm here wondering for good 5 minutes what exactly did he do illegal 😂
@@samsnightcores2418 same lol
Thank you, I got so lost trying to find why magnus' move was illegal
@@Loading-lg6hs deadass
If they don’t respond when you give a check, you should be able to just capture their king, because that’s what check implies anyway.
Yeah exactly, that's what I didn't understand. If I check him and he checks me. I just take the king. It's like the last card in UNO. At least that's what my non chess player brain thinks
@@d4-yeet688 that's how it works in every home game I've ever played but maybe official tournament matches have different rules probably
This is an illegal move, and should be undoed immediately when noticed. A chess game can never be won by taking the king. A checked king must always be protected in one way or another, even in a blitz game.
Exactly, you should check yourself before you wreck yourself
@@johnerickjoaquin6756 so if I miss that my King has been checked and do something else, my move just gets taken back? I didnt know that. So the only way to lose is when the king can not be protected anymore, right?
So it’s illegal to move out of a check when the person gave an illegal move to give a check. My Brian cells are leaving me
The fact u wrote “brian” cells says it all
@@flexedkumquat bro I can’t lie I am in the hospital right now and I think it is because of this
magnus should've took the king with his rook instead of getting out of check but he didn't do that Brian
@@Akshat_Singhal bitch magnus was white this game
"Luckily, the ref wasnt even looking"
Bro almost pulled a King sacrifice on Magnus there
underrated comment
bro did the danger levels 💀
This is not danger level, it's a super radioactive level
Guys... im new to chess so why is king d3 and illegal move
Actually, Magnus didn't play an illegal move, he escaped check, nothing else.
Bro fax! How the hell is it considered to be an illegal move when magnus moved his king out of the check??
isnt magnus playing with black?
@@newcat0761Magnus is playing with the white pieces.
That's exactly what i was thinking. How was moving his king (to D3?) illegal? Why would any ref who sees this think white did anything to disqualify themselves? This story doesn't make sense.
@@MrAlexdimmA lot of chess extra rules for tournaments are completely ridiculous.
He sacrifice the kinggggggggggg
😂😂😂
Magnus didn't even make an illegal move though.. He simply got out of the check
Nah bro.
The next move must "he must complain" that his opponent moved an illegal move.
Which is nonesense rule if it does. 😂
@@axeiawinter7872 nonsense*
@@axeiawinter7872 so, since that means not complaining is an illegal move, can the opponent then complain about the illegal move? And if they don't, that'd also be an illegal move, so the opponent's opponent can complain about the illegal move being missed and thus the move being illegal? Ad infinitum
Only legal moves are take the king or complain about an illegal move
@@cosmicball1670: Taking the King is not a legal move in FIDE rules.
His opponent has no sportsmanship, like bro if you did it first, the game should’ve already been over. So take the loss rather than try to find a loophole and squeeze a cheesy win
I would've taken the king after he ignored the check lol💀💀
What made Magnus move illegal
@@ralphrowbotham8137 Carlsen’s move was “illegal” because his opponent’s was illegal if someone checks you, and you can move out of the check you HAVE to do it. But his opponent didn’t and he “checked Carlson” making carlsens next moving meaning he could capture the king and end the game which if you can do that you HAVE to in chess, and carlsen could’ve taken king and win the game but Carlsen didn’t he moved his king instead of capturing his opponent’s king like in the rules of chess he would have to, which would make carlsen as winning the game because king is captured
@@SpicyTamato You're saying a chess rule is you have to capture a king if you can, even though it's literally not possible in the rules to ever get to such a position as the game would end by checkmate. That makes no sense
Magnus was low on time
I don't understand how Magnus' response is illegal. It's not like he moved into a check
I'm also confused. Nothing about Magnus' move was illegal. Magnus was in check, he moved the king out of check to a safe square. You cannot capture the king, only checkmate. So it's not like he has an obligation to capture the king.
Exactly!!!! I don't understand either! Maybe it's illegal to play when someone does an illegal move???
All I can come up with is there is a rule that states you must attack a king when it is your turn and it has not moved from check.. (aka you must win the game) but his move was instead to move his own king from check...
Don't see how this would EVER be Magnus's fault though because that's only ever an illegal possibility if the other player made the illegal move of not removing himself from check.
@@CrypticCobra so there is a rule about capturing the king? Ok, still Magnus' move was only illegal because his opponent played an illegal move. The turn order alone should have resolved the issue.
@@leonduble6224 You are correct. Any move after an illegal move is illegal.
Magnus is like: "King trade"💀
I'm not sure if this game was played under FIDE or USCF rules, but this is what USCF rules say:
USCF Rule 11B: If an illegal move is made and the opponent has not made a move yet, the illegal move must be corrected before continuing the game. The game is rolled back to the position before the illegal move.
USCF Rule 11C: If the illegal move is not noticed and both players have completed their subsequent moves, the illegal move stands, and the game continues from the current position
So basically, you have 2 chances to call out an illegal move by the opponent:
- right after the illegal move is played, or
- right after you do your move but before your opponent moves.
In this case, it's funny because if Magnus' opponent had played 1 more move and then immediately call out Magnus illegal move, instead of pausing the game after Magnus' illegal move, it would have cut off the chances of Magnus to call out black's illegal move, but black would still be entitled to call out Magnus' illegal move. Remember, there can be up to 1 movement on the board to call it out. By the 2nd movement, it's too late.
Meaning all black had to do to win was to cheat again.
But Magnus’ move wasn’t illegal. He actually moved his king out of check.
That’s the thing I don’t know how it’s called illegal.i think he should have stopped playing and say refffffff! He made a faking mistake rather than moving out of check 😂
no. the position had already been illegal, with both kings in check. this meant Magnus had no legal moves at all, from such position.
Rediscovered check
@@vibovitold by your logic Magnus got stalemated
Is taking the king a legal move? 😅
How is Magnus's move illegal? He just moved the king out of check
@@thangphamminh1823you cant take the king though thats not how it works
@@MRCUBE24 stockfish did it to ChatGPT, so the move is legal. However, getting into that position is impossible.
Ya I don't get why it's illegal either.
an illegal move is a move that can’t happen.the move is to defend the king from a rook, if you don’t the move is illegal just like rooks going diagonal
@@yghhhshhshu9131 but what was the illegal move white made?
If i was magnus I'd have taken the king with the rook after the knight played check 😂
It boggles my mind why that isnt allowed
According to a proffsional it's draw or you should play the game again
bro offered a king trade lmao
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-Sun Tnus
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How did magnus did an illegal move he just lived king to safety
Exactly
because you cant not take the king
he ignored the check, thats an illegal move
@@grainter5magnus didn’t ignore the check
@@SavageMudkipon the contrary, taking a king _is_ an illegal move in chess.
What makes Magnus' move illegal? Moving at all after the first guy cheated?
Magnus should’ve just taken the king after he didn’t do anything about the check lol, first time where u can actually take a king.
😂😂
... you have to get your king out of check first everyone knows that
😂
@@michaelmontenegro5078 Don't have an attack on your king if there is no order for an attack
But, this just happens. You just get the clock This is a normal scenario I'm hating the "OMG CARLUS??? HOW?" clickbait
Magnus should win that game because if the first person made a illegal move first,shouldn’t that person loses because they started it.
Did you even watch the entire video?
Everybody knows that if people start crossing at the red light, the first person on the street pays the fine.
Am I the "robot", but I don't see how King D3 was illegal... The king is not attacked on D3... So wtf?
Levy: You can't respond to a check by giving a check.
Crosscheck: Well....
That ref needs to be fired. That's messed.
nono, i agree with the first ref, moves are only illegal if they are noticed and pointed out, since magnus didnt initiate the procedure to point out the illegal move then there is no claim, however when the opponent noticed magnus illegal move he called it out and was awarded the win.
@@kitkat47chrysalis95 Absolutely not, otherwise it would be a strategy to make an illegal move and hope to the opponent don't see it. The first to make the illegal move is the wrong one.
@@AndreFranca99 if i make an illegal move in the beginning say i move the queen pawn forward 3 spaces, and then we keep playing and nobody notices, 5 minutes later and 20 moves later my opponent makes an illegal move castling his king when my bishop is blocking the square. i notice this illegal castle and bring attention to it, i win because he made an illegal move... several days later they discover about the illegal opening move... it too late bro i already won. whoever calls attention to the illegal move should be the one whom wins
@@kitkat47chrysalis95 Sure in your specific scenario that makes more sense because you played multiple moves past the mistake. Magnus here however, didnt even make a truly illegal move (you should in fact move your king out of check, right?), and has no reason to move his rook CURRENTLY CHECKING THE BLACK KING. It's one move apart, and a significant blunder to move the knight because you LOSE THE GAME BASED ON THAT MOVE by not protecting the king. Ref should have stepped in and gave magnus win right off the bat.
@@D34doneTTV we'll just put an "within reason" into the rules and let the future generations interpret it however they feel. Surely they won't abuse this flexibility for their own political purposes
Levy: What's more valuable then a king?
THE OTHER KING
How is magnus's move illegal? Sorry i don't know that much about chess