On Cloudeclipse After 100 Miles
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- There’s a new line of On shoes that I really like that use a new kind of cloud while de-emphasizing a speed board. The Cloudsurfer managed to keep its magic over the course of my long term review. And I’m happy to report that the Cloudeclipse follows along this path.
0:00 intro
0:54 Disclosures
1:25 How I’ve Been Using Them
3:39 How They’ve Been Holding Up
6:56 Update Pairing Options
8:23 Updated Buying Guide and Alternatives
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I have this shoe, have about 300ks on them. They’re great, but I don’t think they wow me at all. The Superblast for me example wowed me from
The first run, these just feel so vanilla to me. That’s not a bad thing. They’re a good shoe, they do the job, they’re comfy, I’d say they’re like a 7.5 or 8 on 10. Not sure I’d buy them again but certainly don’t regret buying them if that makes sense.
Love the clip at the end🤣 I love when Erin shows her outfits too😂
8:30 I hadn't seen that Fade/Sand colorway. That looks pretty sharp. Could even work as streets.
Great review! I’ve put in just over 100 miles and am still loving it. The shoe is breathable, cushy without being overly squishy, has great rebound, and actually has enough space for the toes to spread. Looking forward to trying out some of your alternatives!
Just picked these up last week and have around 50 miles so far, I’m loving them!! So much better than the Hoka Bondis I was using before.
Bought them 1 month ago, buy them to make my long run, and she was exceptionnal.
Like you say in your first video about, you can make a little bit more than just you want about a long-run shoes.
For me, an heavy runner(ex-rugby 1m97 117kg) they're incredible. Long run at 4'50"/km is incredible.
I combine with the Boston 12, a little bit
Smashing two watches aswell! Love your videos!
And once again you nailed it! Another excellent video, Mr. Kofuzi. I have the Eclipse and my thoughts are exactly the same. Have a great one, every body!
thanks!
I don't like the big max cushion but the Like to Kofuzi. Have a great day.
Just got the notification, yes was wondering about this. I'm close to 300 miles on the eclipse and got to say, a really great shoe. One of the best next to Mach X. Might go to 400 miles on them maybe 😅
I'm a Cloudsurfer 7 person so my experiences might not exactly translate, and I bought _two_ of them because I really liked it and wanted to tell On YES I want to see more shoes like this. There's something about voting with your wallet. My wear and tear (on both) matches what you're seeing -- just the fine crosshatch is disappearing. The unprotected foam areas still look remarkably good.
I haven't experienced the potential pressure point you're talking about. (The Cloudurfer 7 seems to have an identical upper and lacing system). On the contrary, I find that these have some of the highest toe box volumes of any of my shoes. Some shoes I can't get away with using a Currex insert because it adds about 1mm in the forefoot and more than that in the heel (therefore also adding a bit of drop). But the Cloudsurfer 7 takes it easily.
Im really impressed with the CloudEclipse and the Cloudsurfer 7. On has my attention with anything that uses this CloudPhase unit configuration moving forward.
I like how you use the word “predictable” when referring to the ride. I know what I’m getting when I lace these up, and unlike a lot of continuous midsole shoes, the ride/transition doesn’t really change with the terrain for me. It’s good for just locking into easy pace on easy days.
I like how the shock attenuation is structural, rather than a result of the foam durometer, so a firm foam like Helion will last a while without the midsole yielding too harsh a ride.
And the sustainably minded dying pattern makes me feel like there’s good eco-karma. Looks good too.
Thanks for your update!
Eco-karma. Oh man. Lmao
When I saw this video I knew I had to check it out but once I realized it was 11 minutes I figured I probably wouldn't watch the whole thing. Yet, I found this review thoroughly interesting and very well put together, and the 11 minutes actually ended up feeling like 5. Nice job kofuzi
I appreciate your time
Love this shoe! Got about 100miles on this pair...for recovery, long runs and for Zone 4...really responsive and forgiving on my legs and feet...i feel this can go the distance at 400plus miles
I have 150 miles on my cloud eclipse and they're my go to shoe! I like the responsiveness and feel like they're less plush than the SC Trainers which I also have. I've been using them for everything from regular base miles, to long runs, to marathon pace (8:10/ mile) workouts and some threshold work. I like the the slight rigidity of the speedboard and don't find them too soft for my longer runs. In the past, I've stayed away from On because I can feel the clouds under my feet in the monster, surfer, and flyer but I've been enjoying the slight rigidity of the speedboard, the foam type, and the shape of the clouds to prevent that here.
They're seeing some wear and tear like you mentioned, creasing in the foam and at times they squeak which I've heard is common in some Ons after 100-130 miles
thanks for the update!
159 miles in.. Probably the best overall daily /long runner.. breathable, stylish, best roll through.. Only problem is they squeak like a bucket of rats🐀🐀.. first the right, then it went away for a while.. now both on every step.. embarrassing.. luckily my Bose Ultra QC noise cancelling buds drown them out.. Need a redesgin of the suction cup like tread..
can you send me a video or audio of it via DM? I wonder if it's similar to what I heard with mine
Had the same issue. Put some corn starch in the bottom and that helped a little.
Same 👌you can hear me coming !
Supposedly if you nail file down the last 4 holes it will stop the squeak. The squeak is happening because of the clouds are so smooth that they are rubbing together when compressed. Roughing them up a little with the nail file should take care of this. I had the same issue in my Cloudsurfers.
Read this comment and burst out laughing… ITS SO TRUE. I’m about 50 miles in and they are easily the best long distance shoe I’ve ever run in… BUT THEY SQUEAK like a MFER. My left shoe started squeaking a little at first, then right…now, OMG they drive me nuts (but noise cancelling headphone help). That said, ON knocked this one out of the park… feels like running on a cloud but with the support, stability, and lightness of a great shoe.
Sorry to ask this Kofuzi, and it is not related ti the video 😂. But what is the best pairing option for the Superblast. Thank you and have a great day
Looking forward to cloudmonster 2 after 100 miles!!
I just got past the 500 mile mark in the On Cloudeclipse. They still have a nice rocker to them and feel bouncy to me, even at 500 miles. They’ve been good but will probably try something different.
Couple things to note:
- the sock liner bunched up in the shoe when it rained. Kind of annoying.
- also, they “squeak” when stepping
- I didn’t like these for very long runs (>maybe 13-14 miles). I used them on a 22 mile long run and my legs were pissed after.
I like the aesthetic of of OC shoes; however, the linear ankle cut out rubs on my ankle so I cannot wear them. I wish they would do the traditional dipped arc at the ankle that 95% that shoes utilize for a good reason. Nice review.
Purchased the Cloudeclipse 2 weeks ago. 65 k so far and I love the shoe🤗
glad you're enjoying them!
hi dear, what do you think of cloud eclipse for long run and training , and nova blast 4 for tempo? or are they similar? thanks
I bought the same shoe and have since logged slightly under 100 miles. I used it a couple times for my medium long run (13 miles or under). They are fantastic for easy shorter runs. Once I hit higher mileage my feet and legs get jello due to the weight.
I've heard some others say that as well about longer runs, but they usually say it's because the squishiness makes them work a bit harder
This has been my first pair of On. I usually run in New Balance (I like both their Fresh Foam and Fuelcell midsole foams) but thought I’d give these a try as I saw many positive reviews and I like the design. I’ve done around 300km in them now and have been mostly happy but not blown away by them. I don’t know why but I’m just consistently slower in these than my NBs, which I’ve done similar mileage in.
They might not be for you, but also, these aren’t exactly meant for speed. So that might not be the best way to evaluate them. For example, I’d be reaching for these on days when I’m a bit more tired (like the day after a tough workout). I don’t care what my paces are on those days, and my paces on those days are typically more the result of my fatigue and not the shoe.
But I also believe that life is too short to run in shoes you don’t like. So, if it’s not enjoyable, no need to over analyze it or try to rationalize it
@@kofuzithanks for the reply. I appreciate your perspective. They won't be my "go to" shoes, but my "don't care" ones. I have NB Rebel V4's arriving this week, so looking forward to putting some mileage on them.
Keep up your great work!
Wow you just paired it with the mach 6. Now I'm genuinely perplexed which to get. I'll just wait until your 100 miles review of the mach 6 haha
Pair means that they would make sense together in the same closet.
In the buying section, that’s where I discuss shoes that are alternatives
I see. But i can only afford 1 of those in my closet haha. I'll wait for your 100 miles on mach 6 before deciding which.
How do you store your shoes after running in them. I put them back in the box. I have purchased several pairs of Hoka and Brooks plus a couple of other types. No doubt probably too many! I love walking in them but I’m changing for fun to see how they all feel.
Bought the oncloud eclipse & returned them after the first run. They were so heavy, I could literally feel them falling off my feet with every step!
Sounds like perhaps you got a size too big?
Hey Kofuzi! I have already gone through 4 pairs of the New Balance MoreV4 as my easy day shoe and was wondering how that shoe would compare to this one. I tried the Cloudsurfer and felt it was softer than the MoreV4 but didn’t get it because I wanted a little bit higher of stack height which makes this shoe look perfect on paper!
I've got a lot of running shoes and more v4 is one of my fav, so far I like it better than Superblast, Prime X Strung, Boston 12 .. I've been surprised by this shoe, especially that its an EVA based shoe and that the stack height is not that high .. it just feels very protective for some reasons .. yet more bouncy than expected .. really plush ride despite what others are saying on reddit .. I guess it comes down to your gait cycle and your weight .. I don't normally heel strike a lot but it just feels better in some shoes .. like SC trainer and more v4
Do you lean more towards your Cloudsurfers or your Cloudeclipse? Another great video btw 👌
I love the softness of the Cloudsurfer (although I wish it had more of an upper like the Cloudeclipse)
Thanks man, I'm sure I won't be disappointed buying the Eclipse appreciate 🤙
Ty
I bought 'em back in January and have 84 miles in them. Am I wowed by them? No. Why? Because I have the NB SC Trainer V2, which fits my style of running better and doesn't leave me as beat up after a run.
I bought all my running shoes based on your reviews. Now, I need your help deciding on running watches: between the Garmin 165, 255, and the Coros Pace 3 GPS watches (all are in the same price category at this time). Thank you.
For the price the Pace 3 is the best. Is has dual band gps, great reart rate accuracy and a great battery. The downsides are the materials(it's all plastic), the MIP screen(for me it's not a downside, because it is less battery heavy) and the lack of spotify support. I've been using the watch for a few months now and I am very happy with it.
I recently bought the Coros Pace 3 and have had no issues with it! Even with the dimmer MIP screen, I have personally not had any problems seeing things under various lightings, and the white background watch faces also help a lot too. I watched a BUNCH of review/comparison videos prior to pulling the plug, and it seems like at that price point, you can’t beat the Pace 3 unless you REALLY need that AMOLED screen and don’t care for as many stats (then go with the Garmin FR 165). If you want the best of both worlds and are willing to shell out an extra $200, then I think most people have said that Garmin FR 265 is the gold standard. overall though, I got my pace 3 solely for running and it’s been working like a gem.
Also, battery life is great, love the option to use dual frequency for gps to track my runs more accurately, the watch is super lightweight, and I’ve seen many reviews where people have said Coros is more generous about software updates for most of their watches than Garmin.
Only downside I’ve noticed so far is it’s not the most intuitive if you are an avid indoor treadmill runner. I’m planning on buying the Coros pod 2 to help with that, but I’ve messed up a few of my workouts because I was busy manually adjusting the grade and speed during my treadmill runs.
As someone who switched from an Apple Watch, I cannot recommend Coros pace 3 enough!!!
I just can't do max cushion shoes. They feel so sloppy to me but I also ran in spikes and flats in college and I like hard, responsive shoes.
If you are to choose between cloud monster 2 and eclipse which one will you prefer? Thx
so much of it is going to come to preference.
personally, I love the cloudeclipse
@@kofuzi Thx. Idol will get the eclipse instead.
Any plans for testing the diadora gara carbon?
I don’t currently have plans to review Diadora
Have you heard/seen anything about the On Cloud Tilt? Saw it at Dick's Sporting Goods but haven't seen it anywhere in Shoetuber world.
I'm not familiar with the Tilt, but from what I've seen when I'm at Dick's, there are many On shoes that are athletic looking but intended for casual wear. Not saying that's what the Tilt is, but if there aren't a lot of reviews on it, that may be why.
@@kofuzi that makes sense. It has a lot of resemblance to the Surfer but falling Domino's looking.
Really enjoyed them but after arround 200 kms the back of the midsole due to the cut out started to make a very strong noise on every stride which made them really annoying to run in.
would you describe it as a squeak? I think that might be different than the squeak that others have reported.
@@kofuzi yes would call it a squeak. That is the first time I experience this in a shoe!
The ON cloud monster 2 is like the handsomer but slightly less athletic brother to the ON cloud eclipse
Kinda wish they had some better color options
You can at least get 20% off on these (or the SC Trainer) with an REI member coupon
One of these days I will retry an ON shoe. The speedboard is the reason I had written off their shoes.
The cloudsurfer is awesome
Yo, what’s going on!!!
i sped run vidio good!
is that Forerunner 165?
I’m currently testing both the 165 and 265
cloudeclipse or cloudsurfer?
they're both fun and my two favorite On shoes. it depends on what you're looking for. one is a daily trainer, the other is a max cushion shoe that can handle long runs really well.
Adi
So you didn’t endlessly struggle with rocks, sticks, dog poo, or small woodland creatures getting stuck in the “clouds”?😂
Actually, there was a lot of poo, and it was so difficult to clean out of the clouds. I went through so many toothbrushes to keep them clean.
but On has paid me handsomely to downplay the cloud/poo dilemma, so I keep it quiet
@@kofuzi 🤣🤣
This squeaks on me big time. Quite annoying really