The singing in brilliant, but those staccati passages in the Bärenreiter score are written legato; most sopranos sing them as staccati because as written they're too diificult.
@@LohengrinO yes, it sounds weird when it's in legato, i prefer the staccatos for this part, but maybe i just haven't seen a good example of this well done in legato, i think
Just to play Devils Advocate ---- what makes Baerenriter Urtext *truly* Urtext? Baerenriter says it is. But??? There is no actual way to prove that. Someone *decided* "yeah, I think this is right" ... and boom, it's so? Likely? Ok But, the stacatti may actually be correct...... ....just making a point
I remember an intermission feature from the Met Saturday Broadcast back in the day: Miss Sutherland and Marilyn Horne discussing the Trill, with an air of disbelief that other singers might find it difficult or even impossible. “It’s so easy! You just sing this note (sings) then you sing the next one (sings) then you go back and forth like this (they both sing perfect trills).” 🎶 It was serious and funny at the same time with those two voices that you’d recognize anywhere doing a kind of trill shtick. But maybe you had to be there!
Joan is still my favorite because when I was young I would check The Art of the Prima Donna out of the town library repeatedly, my introduction to opera. She didn’t have the “it factor “ charisma of Callas nor the beauty on stage of some of the others, but oh god, the voice and flawless execution.
Starting at 2:53, she's modified the score to avoid a string of three top Es. I really don't care, but it does show how one half-step can make a huge difference. E-flat in those days was nothing for her, but E could be elusive. She nailed several in "Art of the Prima Donna" but arias like the Bell Song and "Bel raggio" were almost always taken down a half step after that. So it goes with the human voice; there is often a "stop" point beyond which you just cannot push!
@@LohengrinO Lol! Fair enough! Sorry Thomas, just speaking up for the woman who almost single-handedly got me hooked on Opera in the early 1970s. I heard a recording of her singing Sempre libera and was Mesmerized!!! The Speed, the energy, the Eb!!! Truly, it was a random occurrence that I even heard it - I had No interest in/knowledge of opera - but Joan, Singing Sempre libera???? Wowza 😎😎😎
Well, and that's true for a LOT of coloraturas--high E is a passagio note between Eb and F. Listen to how many of us have trouble on that final high E in the Bell Song. You have to be so careful not to hit it like you do an Eb.
@@LohengrinO Thank for your answer. I did found it myself later. I am new to classic and opera music. There are so many pop arias/songs in opera but new to me
There will never be the likes of Dame Joan. We're in different times sadly a lesser time. A lot of the singers today would be house singers, not stars.
The singing in brilliant, but those staccati passages in the Bärenreiter score are written legato; most sopranos sing them as staccati because as written they're too diificult.
ua-cam.com/video/HIwpqBcOSv8/v-deo.html, it does sound a bit weird though connecting the dots yet so fast... unbelievable!
@@LohengrinO yes, it sounds weird when it's in legato, i prefer the staccatos for this part, but maybe i just haven't seen a good example of this well done in legato, i think
Just to play Devils Advocate ---- what makes Baerenriter Urtext *truly* Urtext?
Baerenriter says it is. But???
There is no actual way to prove that. Someone *decided* "yeah, I think this is right" ... and boom, it's so?
Likely? Ok
But, the stacatti may actually be correct......
....just making a point
@@rugby8-Philadelphia I dont know if it is because singing those tones legato sound like strangling the voice but I always prefer pearl-staccati :p
@@LohengrinO
Me Too!!!
I remember an intermission feature from the Met Saturday Broadcast back in the day: Miss Sutherland and Marilyn Horne discussing the Trill, with an air of disbelief that other singers might find it difficult or even impossible.
“It’s so easy! You just sing this note (sings) then you sing the next one (sings) then you go back and forth like this (they both sing perfect trills).” 🎶
It was serious and funny at the same time with those two voices that you’d recognize anywhere doing a kind of trill shtick. But maybe you had to be there!
Joan is still my favorite because when I was young I would check The Art of the Prima Donna out of the town library repeatedly, my introduction to opera. She didn’t have the “it factor “ charisma of Callas nor the beauty on stage of some of the others, but oh god, the voice and flawless execution.
Well, that was certainly spectacular.
Starting at 2:53, she's modified the score to avoid a string of three top Es. I really don't care, but it does show how one half-step can make a huge difference. E-flat in those days was nothing for her, but E could be elusive. She nailed several in "Art of the Prima Donna" but arias like the Bell Song and "Bel raggio" were almost always taken down a half step after that. So it goes with the human voice; there is often a "stop" point beyond which you just cannot push!
"....I don't care, *But* ..."
That's like starting a statement with, "I don't mean to be offensive..."
😕😕😕
@@rugby8-Philadelphia Thomas loves dame Joan... I think he is trying to say that even Miracles have their limits...
@@LohengrinO
Lol!
Fair enough!
Sorry Thomas, just speaking up for the woman who almost single-handedly got me hooked on Opera in the early 1970s. I heard a recording of her singing Sempre libera and was Mesmerized!!!
The Speed, the energy, the Eb!!!
Truly, it was a random occurrence that I even heard it - I had No interest in/knowledge of opera - but Joan, Singing Sempre libera???? Wowza
😎😎😎
Well, and that's true for a LOT of coloraturas--high E is a passagio note between Eb and F. Listen to how many of us have trouble on that final high E in the Bell Song. You have to be so careful not to hit it like you do an Eb.
Good lord. How have I never heard this before, or my age has let me forget.
Thank you very much for making an old man happy. 🖐️❤️
superhuman singing
I've sung this, and it's super fun....so glad to hear Joanie do it!
Incredible. Thank you for the video!
There will never be a Dame Joan again. We are in lesser times. Most of the stars today would be house sopranos etc. not stars.
Absolutely. Anna Netrebko would not have a career 70 years ago....or at least not the one she's having now.
Immer die Beste und bezauberd!
DIVINE!!!! 🙌😇🎶💜
what a treat 🤩
❤ impresionante!!, ...pero, cuando respira😮, obviamente, fue una virtuosa del canto lírico 🌹
Joan could really sing ,how do you do this 😂, its just so impressive and perfect .
Wow!!
Amazing
Glorious!!!!
Ela era tecnicamente impecável.
la perfetta.
Joan un´altra grandissima
O mais impressionante é que ela tinha toda essa agilidade vocal, mas era soprano dramático.
💖💐💐
🌹♥️
what is the name of song in the very first video? from 0.0 to 0.45?
oh I found it myself :))
it is the ending of the same aria that follows... i often reprise the gem of an aria in the start of the video
@@LohengrinO Thank for your answer. I did found it myself later. I am new to classic and opera music. There are so many pop arias/songs in opera but new to me
Which aria is?
no, che non sei capace
It's one of the concert arias of Mozart.....there are several that are really killer like this one!
There will never be the likes of Dame Joan. We're in different times sadly a lesser time. A lot of the singers today would be house singers, not stars.