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this is lie about nato according to politico. gorbachev said they were talking about us troops in east germany and it was never written.not about security guarantees from russian wars to east europe countries
I dont understand how the west can be a mediator in good faith. US and Europe basically destroyed Iraq, Syria, Afghjansitan ,Yugoslavia and Libya killing millions in the process. The double standards of the west is insane Russia is winning this war and they will decide the terms. Why would Russia negotiate a deal that benefits the west?
That's probably true but the economic reengagement approach is pretty much the only card in the deck unless we all want to be living under the threat of a permanent sunburn.
Nah it's a good bet, but it's outdated. Putin wanted an agreement with the West like he wanted few things. His cabinet is Western educated, they speak English and German, not Mandarin. Russian culture is probably more western than it is Eastern, and Russian economy is oriented towards the West. It makes sence for Russia to continue that. It made sense. That ship has sailed though I think
the most difficult question is how to convince Russia that any "guarantees" have any real value after what happened to 1991 NATO deal and 2014&2015 Minsk agreements.
Strangely enough, you are right. We have been so much brainwashed by our own media telling us not to trust the Russians that we can’t seem to see that they feel the same about us….with ample real hard facts to back it up.
We know russia broke the Minsk agreements and that the NATO 'promise' to Gorbashev is a complete myth! Besides that, what country in the 20th century would be stupid enough to rely on a verbal 'promise' and not insist on an ironclad agreement? No, putin's wet dreams about the West's betrayal are pure deflection!
The only carrot Russia can accept now is that Ukraine will not join NATO. But to make sure it stays like that, Russia will keep the land they have. The West made a very big mistake on this issue 😢
I see pretty hard copium in the comment section. There is only one way that Ukraine's defeat can possibly be prevented, and that is direct NATO involvement followed by inevitable nuclear war. Despite the recklessness of NATO leaders so far, I personally don't see them going in that direction. This combined with the fact that Ukraine's domestic politics prevents it from negotiating means that this war will end with Ukraine's surrender. I also don't see Vivek's plans as workable. The time for doing what he is laying out was 2021 when Putin laid out his proposals before the Ukraine war started. After NATO spent three years trying to destroy Russia, you have to take Russians for complete idiots if you expect them to ditch their friends for a group of countries that want to destroy them. There is no possible negotiations here. Ukraine will surrender, and NATO will have to slowly rethink its aggressive stance while Russia and China build out the new world order.
Agreed, the only way to end this war is to negotiate a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine, cuz Russia ain’t breaking the alliance with Chy-nah anytime soon, until the Ukraine war gets settled
I still find it quite astounding that the USA automatically expects it can negotiate on behalf of another nation. First and foremost, this is a European problem, not the USA's. Many NATO members know first-hand what it means to be on the receiving end of Russian 'attention'. So they vehemently oppose any means of allowing Russia to gain ANYTHING from their aggression. The EU must step up and support Ukraine to the max.
It is quite a lot US's problem since they invite Ukraine in NATO in 2008 and then since Victoria Nuland was in Kiev during the maiden in2014. Europe wasn't there.
With Nord Stream destruction, Vicky Nuland's "F the EU" phone call and Ukraine's most useful weapons being American (not to mention the NATO expansion situation) this conflict is "made in USA" as far as Russia is concerned Russia wouldn't be fine with Lithuanians giving it security guarantees. And Russia's opinion matters. At least, in the context of a negotiated peace, which is what they're talking about in this video
@@PoliticsinShorts91 The Bucharest Summit in 2008 only suggested they expected Ukraine to join. The Ukr Govt only actually voted for it in 2018. Any issue between Ukr and Rus is going to be the EU's problem first.
Never ever and the only deal he will except will benefit almost reward him. Which should be but he will jus keep sending young men to there deaths when you can control TV coverage Internet censoring those ppl live in an alternate reality
we should’ve never been in ukraine to begin with anyone in the political space would agree , we forced his hand and now were dealing with the consequences
What are you talking about. Putin's FSB was one of the first foreign powers that warned about 9/11 Pre 2007 Putin wanted a long term security deal more than anything in the world, clearly
This guy doesn't understand russia at all. Russia has said clearly that borders of "russki mir" is where west puts it. No deal will hold with russia. You can make deals with China, but not with russia.
Someone wants to destroy Russia I see. We wont let you, many Europeans will resist you too. One cant make deals with America. America understands only force. And this ruski mir things is simply propaganda.
This commentator doesn't understand russia at all. Because of America's actions, Russia had to get closer and closer to countries like China, Iran and North Korea. But imagine that? Before the introduction of all these sanctions by the West, all spheres within Russia were aimed at working with the West. With its idiotic decisions, the American government has brought Russia and China closer together than ever. They will never say this in your media, but in general there is quite a lot of freedom in Russia, apart from some aspects. And most citizens don't want the same conditions as in China, with endless surveillance and bans. Stop pushing Russia towards China and start building relations with it. Thereby stop the flow of resources, including energy resources, into the Chinese economy and slow down its development
yeah, like chill Russia, you're being such a meanie, and in return, we will give you...space from your big brother China? I'm giving my own head a shake right now.
😂😂😂 Yeah, 'the Chinese are stupid so they might as well work together with their top adversary and let them have influence over Taiwan' is what your idiotic comment translates to. The Russia-China alliance is here to stay. They both have 1 common enemy that wants to destabilise them so they're gonna continue to work together. Add Pyongyang & Tehran to that list as well and you have 4 nations of which 3 are nuclear powers that are sick & tired of imperialist USA meddling in their affairs.
First person I've heard offer a potential solution for peace, instead of just paying lip service to it. I'm not sure Vivek's solution would work, but at least he offered one. Communication and negotiation are needed now more than ever. The world needs master diplomacy quick before this descends into a global conflict.
@@johnfajer7691 We give Putin a wheel of cheese. But like a really really large one. He'll be so happy he pulls out of Ukraine. Now me and Vivek are 1/1 when it comes to offering solutions for the Ukraine war according to your standards right?
@@SSshalashaska Well, you would be, except that your solution sounds just as inevitable as his. But you are both communicating and offering solutions, which is better than the alternative, wouldn't you agree?
The wording “NATO expansion” is already part of the myth. NATO did not hunt for new members or want to “expand eastward.” NATO membership is a decision for NATO Allies and those countries who wish to join. Every sovereign nation has the right to choose their own alliance.
BS. Operation Paperclip began before Putin or Lavrov or Azarov or Tsarev were even born. We were gaslighting from the get go- we're not fighting the Bolsheviks. We're fighting Russia.
Yeah, sure. And if Mexico wanted a military alliance with Russia & parked ballistic missile platforms on the US border I'm sure the United States Government wouldn't say a word & just sit there and take it. Don't be so naive.
NATO expansion occurs as a result of countries voluntarily seeking membership for protection. The notion of NATO “expansion” is often used as a rhetorical tool by adversarial countries, but it doesn’t reflect an aggressive or coercive NATO policy.
NATO has to have a vote on every new member joining. Imagine you represent Germany in NATO. You are up for a vote on accepting Estonia. And you know that years ago your diplomats promised not to expand NATO "one inch" to the east. Famously so. This is no longer an Estonian problem. You vote now, and it's your, German decision to show your diplomats worthy of trust or not. Even one NATO member honoring its word to Russians would have prevented NATO expansion. AFAIK at least three countries' representatives gave their assurances to that effect
Also Cuba wanted SSR missiles, but US didn't want it and it was ready to start nuclear war to prevent it, why would Russia let Nato weapons on their border
@@VaidasBarauskas NATO expansion requires a vote by multiple countries that promised Russia not to expand. So essentially to keep their word only one of them had to just vote "nay" Don't blame Estonia for German, British, American lies. NATO is responsible for the NATO expansion, not the Eastern European countries
@@NunYa953 @jtothed8575 it's obvious to me the commenter was being aspirational. 'But why is there a speed limit if people speed anyways?'. That gets us nowhere. The commenter is pointing out the frivolity of setting up a false equivalence between aggressor and aggressed. On the flip side, Russia is in Ukraine and mostly not giving ground. That's why Ukraine must win, or at least be winning, have momentum, before Russia will accept peace. The US (and Vivek) will have no say unless the weapons do the talking.
Vivek... is a smart guy who plays stupid. Nobody will associate with him if he becomes too truthful about why Russia pre-empively struck Ukraine. Just dancing around it, a true politician.
Vivek plays stupid just to test the waters... that's a smart guy. He is not afraid to think beyond the conventional or traditional and present it as an alternative.
I’m glad Lex has such varied guests on his podcast because it gives me a chance to listen to them speak for themselves. I would not listen to them otherwise. I also get to see their body language and vibe too. Here, Vivek comes across as extremely arrogant and know-it-all when, in my opinion, he doesn’t have a good understanding of what’s going on. To make a deal that splits Russia and China (among other things he said) is not simple and smacks of hubris.
Exactly. The guy is geopolitically naive. So the US can form alliances here and there but get to dictate how other countries form their own alliances. It is genuinely baffling the way some politicians think
@@prashantkashyap4387 He's proposing at least trying to make a deal. Compared to the current dumbassed Administration that thinks Ukraine is going to pull infinite manpower out of its ass and win if we just throw a few more billion bucks at it. Fact of the matter is is that Ukrainian men don't grow on trees. We have to figure SOMETHING out before they can't put young men in those trenches and in those tanks and Russia's podunk horde and their Cold War tech win anyway.
I think Vivek is on point with his plan for Russia and Ukraine. But he is giving China WAAAY to much credit for its Navy. Its not a powerful Navy...at all.
At 2:09, I thought he was talking about America for a moment :P My bad - ...Cough Iraq, ...cough Afghanistan, ...cough Vietnam, ...cough Syria, ...cough Libya, ...cough Panama, ...cough Grenada!
Although Russia and China have conducted military exercises from time to time recently, their relationship is not a military alliance. The idea of a ‘strategy’ to disrupt the Russia-China partnership is baseless and misleading, as it completely disregards the fact that the U.S. and China maintained a mutually beneficial relationship for 40 years, up until 2015. Such an approach will only lead to further unnecessary conflicts between the U.S. and China.
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Yeah, this is one of the most imbecilic takes I've heard in a while. Now what, every rando from the street can go on a podcast and share his "valuable" opinion and be taken seriously?
Has anyone ever thought of a peace deal that actually involves the concept of peace?? ‘Our peace deal must weaken others!!!!’ Doesn’t sound peaceful to me…
Ukraine war remains me the Iraq invasion by US under false justification, Russia at least has a point in not wanting the encroachment by NATO (US) on its borders.Few people comment or know about the origin or cause of Russia invasion, which is the continued encirclement of Russia by NATO (US) on ex USSR republics. How people expect for Russia not to defend its border from the continuous encroaching of US? What would US do in a hypothetical situation in which Russia or China start building bases on its borders? Remember the Cuban missile crisis?
@@JackRichardsonM8Sorry, but where in his argument did he make an analogy about nukes on Russia’s borders? Certainly you don’t mean the Cuban Missile Crisis? Cuba is not on the U.S.’ border. There’s 90 miles of ocean in between.
Ha! Russia & China is a defensive alliance. No need to worry there. Looking forward to getting Mexico to join BRICS and start joint defensive military exercises there!
Zelenskyy had the opportunity to reject West (US) offer (bribe?) to become part of NATO and choose instead to become a neutral country and that way get the best from west and east. The result of that bad decision we can see it today with hundreds of thousand deaths and a destroyed country plus the danger to the world of the conflict becoming nuclear. Neutrality the key word!
Ukraine isn't a member of NATO. Putin's criminal invasion of Ukraine shows why Poland and the Baltic States joined NATO as a defence against Russian aggression and why Finland and Sweden have just joined NATO.
Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Long before Zelenski came to office. Why the hell would Zelenski want to remain neutral? It makes sense to seek allies against the bully who invaded you in 2014.
Questions about the war in Ukraine are probably not best targeted at someone who never heard of Kherson, Kharkiv, Melitopol, Mariupol and many other cities on the front of the war. Why can't those same threats of consequences, that Vivek claims would keep Russia from collaborating with China, also get Russia to pack up and leave Ukraine.
Vivek claiming that a president could just negotiate a Russia/China split is the height of hubris. He reminds me of the Ron Silver character in Die Hard. And why do these Republicans keep siteing Baker's 1990 private assurances to Gorbachev as somehow eternally ironclad while disregarding the 1994 Budapest Memorandum that actually involved the surrender of the world's 3rd largest nuclear arsenal?
Вивек еще очень многого не знает и не понимает, он еще слишком молод, но у него есть потенциал, придет время и он разберется, но только не сегодня, он слишком наивен в этом вопросе
What do you think if Ukraine agrees not to join NATO in the next 10 years, also NATO do not invite any new nations for next 10 years. And Russia agrees not to attack any country in next 10 years and also give Ukraine all territories back including Crimea?
Thanks for the talk. Very interesting. But I think the golden rule of negotiation between counties is that you can not get the thing you want by negotiating which is out of your military and economic strength. So the question is that whether Russia is still strong enough to threaten the west in South China sea, around Taiwan? If the answer is no, what can Russia offer on the table? You can not offer something you don't have or you can't do, right?
Vivek, you have to rethink your policy approach. It Will NOT be successful. Do not underestimate geopolitical situation. Talk to col McGregor for his opinion.
Commmoooooonnnn LEXXXX, some critical question? 7:30 It is unambiguous that Ukraine would have a much better deal in 2022. Questions: Do you know what was in that deal. - No So if Ukraine had to demilitarize (as Russia wanted) according to the deal, would that have been a better deal for them? If Ukraine has to give up Mikolayiv and Odessa, and Harkiv, would that be a better deal for them? Or if not that, if they just have to give Russia what they had then: Kherson, basically a stronghold on the west bank of Dnipro, would that be a better deal for them? Dipro is a very wide river, it is almost impossible to advance through it. But according to Vivek, for the Ukrainians it would be great that the Russians have that region over the Dnipro, so they can easily attack the southern parts of Ukraine easily? If Russia would have permanently taken lands around Kyiv, would that be better for the Ukrainians? But let us say that they have a peace deal: why would Russia respect that deal? Why would not they just get even stronger and attack in 1-2 years, in a more prepared way? And what would be Ukraines and the West’s strategy then? What can they do then, when they are attacking in a much more organized manner with more troops and Ukraine only have Javelins? YOU CAN NOT INTERVIEW POLITICIANS AND PUNDITS IN THE SAME WAY YOU INTERVIEW SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS: You are great at interviewing scientists. You ask a question and a truthful person has time to answer in the best way. But if you do the same with politicians, they will just lie through their teeth and spread propaganda. These people are selling out Ukraine and the US as well.
No kidding it's quite amazing! Name me the last war that we can actually be proud of that we should have done made sense and wasn't based on false pretenses? Korea?
@@eduardtarniceriu102they've already lost the entirety of 3 generations of fighting age men X, Y and Boomer. At what point do you think it's enough? When all their Gen Z are dead too?
My heart still holds some hope, but my head agrees 💯 with you. I sincerely hope the heart prevails. But with the calibre of extremely dumb and dangerous political leaders, humanity is doomed
Nonsense. Russia isn’t worried about NATO expansion. He wants Ukraine for the land and location but mostly because he thought he could get away with taking it. We would be lucky to have Ukrainians as allies and already owe the Ukrainians deeply for strengthening the NATO alliance and weakening Russia, Tussia that wreaks havoc in Syria, Sudan. Russia the ally of Iran.
Shocking that Alexei Fedotov would have Vivek Ramaswamy on his podcast to repeat literal Kremlin talking points, complete with a map animation that's factually wrong. Harasho, tavarish!
Vivek is a smart boy and he does have somewhat realistic view of some of the aspects of the conflict. At least compared to what BS is being propagated in the mainstream media and what the political establishment is pushing. For example, the concern that Russia has always had about NATO. They have been complaining initially and then warning us about NATO pretty much since we went back on our word in 1991. And it has been constant expansion since then, despite their protests. Putin gave a now famous speech in Munich in 2007 regarding the issue. We did not listen and continued. And the sh*t hit the proverbial fan in 2008 when we pushed the Europeans (even though they protested but eventually obeyed) to come up with a declaration that Ukraine and Georgia are welcomed to apply for NATO membership. For anyone familiar with Russian history it became clear that this was a recipe for disaster down the road. Given how many times Russia has been invaded through Ukraine and the close connections between the two countries it was hardly a surprise. Vivek also pointed out, rightly so, that we sabotaged an agreement that could have stopped the war in its tracks and avoid all the devastation and loss of human life. And the third and last thing that Vivek said that makes sense to me is that he is well aware that one does need to talk to adversaries and at least try to find some sort of solution. At least try.. Something that the current imbeciles in Washington do not understand. Diplomacy is a dirty word for them. Blinken is a disaster and an embarrassment. That being said though, unfortunately, his plan has almost zero chance of being successful and sounds a lot more like wishful thinking than a realistic plan. It could have had some, maybe even a decent, chance of success 10-15 years ago. Not anymore. That train has left the station. For one, Russia absolutely does not trust the West anymore. Given the history of our behavior, US assurances are not worth the paper they are written on. The idea that we will offer Russia a deal in terms of re-opening economic relations in return for them severing ties with China and also threaten them with consequences is a laughable idea. It also reveals inability to grasp the true state of affairs. Why would Russia want to do this sort of nonsense? They have endured more than 21,000 sanctions, their economy has adjusted, has been re-oriented to the East and is doing much better than the economies of the Euro countries. They are outproducing the whole of the West (imagine that) in term of military production, the relationship with China is good for both countries, the global South has resolutely refused to follow the West appeals to condemn and sanction Russia, the BRICS alliance is going gangbusters as more and more countries are joining, they are working on a BRICS payment system therefore eroding the role of the US dollar and the list goes on and on and on. On the Ukraine issue I don't see much hope either for Vivek's plan to work. Russia has made it clear that they consider the issue an existential threat and will go to great lengths to make sure that the objectives they set will be achieved. That is - neutral and demilitarized Ukraine. I see zero chance they will give back territories they have taken. In fact, the more the war goes on the higher the chances are Ukraine will lose more territory and may even cease to exist as a state. There was an offer from the Russians in June - Ukraine withdraws its troops from the 4 oblasts Russia has taken and declares neutrality. But then Ukraine invaded the Kursk region. Now that offer is off the table. If you have followed events one cannot help but notice how the offers are getting progressively worse for Ukraine - from the Minsk agreements when Ukraine would have kept its territorial integrity, then the March 2022, and so on. The more the war drags on the worse Ukraine is. Russia has also modified their nuclear doctrine and lowered the threshold for using nukes. I hear a lot of pundits insisting Putin is bluffing. I don't think he is. I think this is his last warning and there is a high probability of Russia going nuclear if we allow serious attacks deep into the Russian mainland. So unless we are ready to go nuclear as well (over Ukraine) I don't think we can seriously threaten Russia with consequences that they care too much about anymore. In fact, I find it quite arrogant to think that we can use a carrot and a stick with Russia anymore. I think we missed that chance some time aga. Also, his idea that we will insist on Russia withdrawing whatever puny military presence they have in the Western hemisphere while we have tens of thousands of troops, numerous military and CIA bases, missile and radar installations and atomic weapons all over Europe is pure hypocrisy and arrogance.
What are the internationally recognized borders? is this which can be changed by the rule of force and power? Is it okay for Lex? What type of person he is, if he recognizes that the international recognized borders can be changed by some dictators.
For a guy who brags about knowing some Geography of Ukraine, he knows nothing about the goals and aspirations of neither Ukraine, nor Russia. Russia doesn't want Ukraine as a neutral state, it wants to absorb it and then devour half of Europe into it's imperial sphere, maybe all the way to the Mediterranean and control the Slavic, and Orthodox world. This is not something new, it has been an historical goal or Russians since the time of the Tsars, and today's Putin propaganda machine has revived these goals. Ukraine on the other hand see their fate as part of Europe, a fate they believe was robbed by hundreds of years under Russian rule, who they consider barbarians heirs of the Mongol Golden Horde. Vivek has no chance to deal with real thugs like Putin, and it's completely out of depth in this issue. Putin will accept a deal, pour money into the West to corrupt it more and more, and keep pushing into his militaristic imperial aims.
Ваш комментарий очень интересен, но, к большому сожалению, теперь все стало гораздо сложнее, чем то, что Вы пишите, и только Дональд Трамп на мой взгляд - это единственный, кто понимает суть, Вивек молодой, он еще много не понимает, одно дело иметь знания и совсем другое - опыт, после того, как я прочитал книгу Дональда Трампа 1987 года" Искусство сделки" ко мне пришло понимание что только Дональд Трамп способен это остановить правильно, Вивек слишком наивный для этого, хотя многие его мысли очень интересны, но в данном случае он не все знает и не все понимает
You correctly describe Russian expansionism. As for the fact that "Ukraine sees itself as a part of Europe and this glorious fate was interrupted by centuries of Russian hegemony" As an Ukrainian, I would like to say that such a position exists in Ukraine, but this position is very naive, backward, far from reality and rather harms us than led to a benefit. In fact, Russia is closer to many western nations than we Ukrainians are. Russia, like most Western nations are historically successful cultures while we Ukrainians are historically marginalized because we lived without our own state under foreign rule for most of our history and German or the Polish rule was often worse than the Russian one. Also Ukraine is poorer in relation to both Russia and the West. Therefore, Ukraine is vulnerable to economic exploitation, and Ukrainian migrants are perceived as cheap labor in both Russia and the EU. Among the Western rightists who, like many Ukrainian liberals, like to position themselves as defenders of European civilization against Eastern threats (such as mass immigration, for example), there is a strong sympathy for Russia. In fact, there is nothing surprising here. I support idea that the most natural strategy for Ukraine should be anti-imperialist center-left nationalism, which would be aimed at both armed resistance against Russian hegemony and opposition to unconditional pro-Western pro-neoliberal orientation. Bureaucrats and bankers from the EU or people Biden Administration or American senate may condemn Russia's aggression, but they don't think about the interests of ordinary Ukrainian workers like me. And partially about the interests of it's own ordinary people as well.
Why would Russia leave their alliances? Are you thinking that Russia is stupid enough to do that? 😅 No negotiations with Ukraine Nazi or hegemonic US. This is what Russia will do.
Ramaswamy is an excellent speaker and makes fascinating points. I hope this interview can play a role in getting the Russian alliance and NATO into negotiations. I'm dismayed however, by the idea that there's nothing positive for China. We shouldn't assume that China will stand by and accept this kind of an outcome without some kind of gain. And i think that China is a competent and potentially very positive international player. The US and China must somehow enjoy good relations with one-another. Many thanks for this provocative interview.
@@VossH2Othe line is blurred. There's reasonable claims that Storm Shadows, SCALPs and ATACMS have to be programmed by NATO specialists. Also, it's clear that multiple attacks on Crimea and Russian ships have been conducted after drone and ELINT/AWACS flights by NATO jets. Not to mention that entire Ukrainian economy consists of money from NATO members.
Vivek is a very smart man and is approaching peace from the standpoint that Russia wants peace and will respect sovereign borders and is actually concerned about Nato expansion. I believe that is all naive and Russia's expansionist history proves otherwise and Putin is an Imperialist bully interested only in land grab. So, speaking in a language he will understand this is what I would propose to change his risk to reward ratio and end the war quickly. What Ukraine gets: 1. Russia pulls out of Ukraine completely. 2. Russia demilitarizes and splits up Crimea 50/50. 3. Nato membership. 4. Black Sea jointly patrolled In exchange, What Russia Gets: 1. America won't give Ukraine 100 F16 fighter aircraft and 100 Brand new A10's 2. America will not assist Ukraine in "developing" 250 Nuclear Ballistic missiles capable of reaching Moscow. 3. America will not harass Russian forces on "Japan"s" Northern Islands. 4. America will not assist Norway, Finland and Sweden from cutting off the Russians and taking the Murmansk Oblast as their territory. 5. America will not assist Poland with utterly obliterating Belarus and taking Kaliningrad 6. America and Nato will not send in 100 thousand soldiers into Moldova and arm them and assist them in rounding up 250,000 citizens who are Pro Russian instigators and deporting them to Russia. Do we have a deal?
"Russia's expansionist history proves otherwise". The same argument could be made for the French (Napoleon), the Germans (Hitler) both of whom have attempted to invade Russia before and the British empire "pretending to be a defensive alliance", an argument the Serbs and Libyans and Syrians would definitely agree with. A serious argument begins analysis from the end of the last conflict in Europe (the Cold War) and works back the sequence of escalations to arrive at the source of the problem. You're not cut out for diplomatic intelligence. Know this and know peace.
no. Get over Crimea - Ukraine doesn’t need it, it’s just a talking point to them. Crimean Locals won’t want to be Ukraine again, under any circumstance.
"Russia's expansionist history proves otherwise". The same argument could be made for the French (Napoleon), the Germans (Hitler) both of whom have attempted to invade Russia before and the British empire "pretending to be a defensive alliance", an argument the Serbs and Libyans and Syrians would definitely agree with. A serious argument begins analysis from the end of the last conflict in Europe (the Cold War) and works back the sequence of escalations to arrive at the source of the problem. You're not cut out for diplomatic competence or intelligence. Know this and know peace.
@@Myteamandi so much nonsense in a single post. Picking out parts of history to demonize the other side with is a game that two can play and it certainly also applies to the British, Americans, Poles, Germans and French. UA-cam didn't let my long form response through.
lets be honest and realistic here, with out western support Russia can take back kursk and make many more gains in Ukraine, that is no doubt at all, so thinking that russia can somehow take a deal of dropping china who they have a comon enemy when together they pose a really good threat to enemy and both can have a say is somehow illusional. So there are only 2 two ways, it either goes as Russia wants it or NATO gets involved into this directly and this now brings us to new dynamics of the conflict which honestly it will hurt, but we will be out of this faster
I don't understand how someone seriously thinking about negotiation with cannibals. Any kind of trading never finish good way to no head cutting side. This 3 years ridiculously show how floppy and reasonless in actions western democracy
Okay Ukrainian shill account, go ahead and explain how you end this war. And I don't want to hear "Give my people all of your money and equipment so we can magically beat Russia before we run out of military aged males." Go ahead.
If NATO wants both Ukraine and itself to survive then they must provide Ukraine with immediate NATO membership. Couple that with an immediate call for a ceasefire and negotiations. Even if left with a frozen conflict (i.e. Korean War Armistice of 1953) that would still be better than an ever escalating hot war.
They had a peace deal, but the UK's Boris flew-in on the day of signing and nixed it. Vivek, like RFK, are more effective in their current roles at current time. RFK May very well en up renown for saving humanity from poisonous "nutrition" - play on words as was done with the definition of vaccine.
Vivek says, he wants to be ambitious 'for the United States', (2:20), like he is a disinterested party. (again at 3:20, and keeps doing it.) Vivek, buddy, you are a US citizen, a denizen of 'the West'. You can say Us, We, our country, our values. it's okay, stop the shilling, I just want to hug you. The ubermench vibe is strong with these techbros.
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this is lie about nato according to politico. gorbachev said they were talking about us troops in east germany and it was never written.not about security guarantees from russian wars to east europe countries
give russia or china indian territory to deescalate
I dont understand how the west can be a mediator in good faith. US and Europe basically destroyed Iraq, Syria, Afghjansitan ,Yugoslavia and Libya killing millions in the process. The double standards of the west is insane
Russia is winning this war and they will decide the terms. Why would Russia negotiate a deal that benefits the west?
Why would Russia abandon a military alliance with China for peace in Ukraine?
I think thats an absord expectation.
That's probably true but the economic reengagement approach is pretty much the only card in the deck unless we all want to be living under the threat of a permanent sunburn.
MAgA - Laaand 🎼
They won't leave now.
You edited that and still said absord. I wouldn't think so much if I was you kid.
Nah it's a good bet, but it's outdated. Putin wanted an agreement with the West like he wanted few things. His cabinet is Western educated, they speak English and German, not Mandarin.
Russian culture is probably more western than it is Eastern, and Russian economy is oriented towards the West. It makes sence for Russia to continue that. It made sense.
That ship has sailed though I think
So the condition is for Russia to receive more conditions from uncle Sam.
The war will continue.
the most difficult question is how to convince Russia that any "guarantees" have any real value after what happened to 1991 NATO deal and 2014&2015 Minsk agreements.
Hans, are we the baddies?
Strangely enough, you are right. We have been so much brainwashed by our own media telling us not to trust the Russians that we can’t seem to see that they feel the same about us….with ample real hard facts to back it up.
We know russia broke the Minsk agreements and that the NATO 'promise' to Gorbashev is a complete myth! Besides that, what country in the 20th century would be stupid enough to rely on a verbal 'promise' and not insist on an ironclad agreement? No, putin's wet dreams about the West's betrayal are pure deflection!
The only carrot Russia can accept now is that Ukraine will not join NATO. But to make sure it stays like that, Russia will keep the land they have. The West made a very big mistake on this issue 😢
there was never any deal made in 1991. stop pushing this myth. Bush even made the secretary of state walk back his statements about NATO expansion.
Vivek is going to negotiate international affairs? He can't even set Ann Coulter straight on his own show! nice try
Ann Coulter is a bitter, damaged woman😄
Epic!
I see pretty hard copium in the comment section. There is only one way that Ukraine's defeat can possibly be prevented, and that is direct NATO involvement followed by inevitable nuclear war. Despite the recklessness of NATO leaders so far, I personally don't see them going in that direction. This combined with the fact that Ukraine's domestic politics prevents it from negotiating means that this war will end with Ukraine's surrender.
I also don't see Vivek's plans as workable. The time for doing what he is laying out was 2021 when Putin laid out his proposals before the Ukraine war started. After NATO spent three years trying to destroy Russia, you have to take Russians for complete idiots if you expect them to ditch their friends for a group of countries that want to destroy them. There is no possible negotiations here. Ukraine will surrender, and NATO will have to slowly rethink its aggressive stance while Russia and China build out the new world order.
Agreed, the only way to end this war is to negotiate a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine, cuz Russia ain’t breaking the alliance with Chy-nah anytime soon, until the Ukraine war gets settled
I still find it quite astounding that the USA automatically expects it can negotiate on behalf of another nation. First and foremost, this is a European problem, not the USA's. Many NATO members know first-hand what it means to be on the receiving end of Russian 'attention'. So they vehemently oppose any means of allowing Russia to gain ANYTHING from their aggression. The EU must step up and support Ukraine to the max.
No we shouldnt. We are tired of being american vassals.
It is quite a lot US's problem since they invite Ukraine in NATO in 2008 and then since Victoria Nuland was in Kiev during the maiden in2014. Europe wasn't there.
USA want a war with Russia, destroing European country economy at the same time...
With Nord Stream destruction, Vicky Nuland's "F the EU" phone call and Ukraine's most useful weapons being American (not to mention the NATO expansion situation) this conflict is "made in USA" as far as Russia is concerned
Russia wouldn't be fine with Lithuanians giving it security guarantees. And Russia's opinion matters.
At least, in the context of a negotiated peace, which is what they're talking about in this video
@@PoliticsinShorts91 The Bucharest Summit in 2008 only suggested they expected Ukraine to join. The Ukr Govt only actually voted for it in 2018. Any issue between Ukr and Rus is going to be the EU's problem first.
Do u think Putin is that kind of stupid?? Abandon China just for you??
After fighting them for 3 years 😂
This is all wishful thinking, When has Putin been willing to give American a win…NEVER!
Never ever and the only deal he will except will benefit almost reward him. Which should be but he will jus keep sending young men to there deaths when you can control TV coverage Internet censoring those ppl live in an alternate reality
When has America ever been honest with Russia... The bridge is burned. Russia and China created BRICS is proof of this.
Before 2008
we should’ve never been in ukraine to begin with anyone in the political space would agree , we forced his hand and now were dealing with the consequences
What are you talking about. Putin's FSB was one of the first foreign powers that warned about 9/11
Pre 2007 Putin wanted a long term security deal more than anything in the world, clearly
Belarus should not be in blue on that map 😅😂.
Belarus was in the NATO "Partnership for peace"-program between 1995 and 2021, so the color is correct.
@@magnus7249 what year is it at the moment?
@@jakecarlile1966 The map shown stops at 2021.
This guy doesn't understand russia at all. Russia has said clearly that borders of "russki mir" is where west puts it. No deal will hold with russia. You can make deals with China, but not with russia.
Someone wants to destroy Russia I see. We wont let you, many Europeans will resist you too. One cant make deals with America. America understands only force. And this ruski mir things is simply propaganda.
Deals with Russia used to work though. INF, START, ABM, CFE, Open Skies, lots of deals worked decently well.
What changed?
Exactly. This guy thinks america can create conditions that the kremlin would actually adhere to.
Laughable.
This commentator doesn't understand russia at all. Because of America's actions, Russia had to get closer and closer to countries like China, Iran and North Korea. But imagine that? Before the introduction of all these sanctions by the West, all spheres within Russia were aimed at working with the West. With its idiotic decisions, the American government has brought Russia and China closer together than ever. They will never say this in your media, but in general there is quite a lot of freedom in Russia, apart from some aspects. And most citizens don't want the same conditions as in China, with endless surveillance and bans. Stop pushing Russia towards China and start building relations with it. Thereby stop the flow of resources, including energy resources, into the Chinese economy and slow down its development
@@aleksandrs1422 and to to forget - neutrality of Austria and Finnland
His argument barely brings up Ukraine. Talks about nato, china and Russia. I think USA and china can work together and make Russia relax.
yeah, like chill Russia, you're being such a meanie, and in return, we will give you...space from your big brother China? I'm giving my own head a shake right now.
😂😂😂 Yeah, 'the Chinese are stupid so they might as well work together with their top adversary and let them have influence over Taiwan' is what your idiotic comment translates to. The Russia-China alliance is here to stay. They both have 1 common enemy that wants to destabilise them so they're gonna continue to work together. Add Pyongyang & Tehran to that list as well and you have 4 nations of which 3 are nuclear powers that are sick & tired of imperialist USA meddling in their affairs.
Thats because Ukraine is just a pawn in a bigger clash.
First person I've heard offer a potential solution for peace, instead of just paying lip service to it. I'm not sure Vivek's solution would work, but at least he offered one. Communication and negotiation are needed now more than ever. The world needs master diplomacy quick before this descends into a global conflict.
His solution is terrible, but at least he offered one? Your standards for politicians are way too low my man.
@@SSshalashaska What's your solution?
@@johnfajer7691 We give Putin a wheel of cheese. But like a really really large one. He'll be so happy he pulls out of Ukraine.
Now me and Vivek are 1/1 when it comes to offering solutions for the Ukraine war according to your standards right?
@@SSshalashaska Well, you would be, except that your solution sounds just as inevitable as his. But you are both communicating and offering solutions, which is better than the alternative, wouldn't you agree?
The wording “NATO expansion” is already part of the myth. NATO did not hunt for new members or want to “expand eastward.” NATO membership is a decision for NATO Allies and those countries who wish to join.
Every sovereign nation has the right to choose their own alliance.
Correct sir
BS. Operation Paperclip began before Putin or Lavrov or Azarov or Tsarev were even born. We were gaslighting from the get go- we're not fighting the Bolsheviks. We're fighting Russia.
ukraine was not a sovereign nation post 2014 they litteraly got couped and after all pro russian parties where banned
Yeah, sure. And if Mexico wanted a military alliance with Russia & parked ballistic missile platforms on the US border I'm sure the United States Government wouldn't say a word & just sit there and take it. Don't be so naive.
@@mysticaccount5845 Russian bots are thick
Translation- Give the dictator what he wants and hope he doesn’t comeback to do the same thing again.
Even though he has done it before!
@@zaporizhzhya1036Ukraine will go through 1955 again
Vivek is responsible for what he says, not what you (mis) understand.
Do you mean like allow nato to illegally invade Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya? I demand an answer!
Yes. This is a deal between powers. Or would you expect Zimbabwe, Bhutan and Costa rica have a sit down and draw the borders between Rus and America?
NATO expansion occurs as a result of countries voluntarily seeking membership for protection. The notion of NATO “expansion” is often used as a rhetorical tool by adversarial countries, but it doesn’t reflect an aggressive or coercive NATO policy.
NATO has to have a vote on every new member joining. Imagine you represent Germany in NATO. You are up for a vote on accepting Estonia. And you know that years ago your diplomats promised not to expand NATO "one inch" to the east. Famously so.
This is no longer an Estonian problem. You vote now, and it's your, German decision to show your diplomats worthy of trust or not.
Even one NATO member honoring its word to Russians would have prevented NATO expansion. AFAIK at least three countries' representatives gave their assurances to that effect
Also Cuba wanted SSR missiles, but US didn't want it and it was ready to start nuclear war to prevent it, why would Russia let Nato weapons on their border
@@dusanvukovic4529 exactly
@@dusanvukovic4529
NATO weapons are in Finland, Estonia, and Latvia.
Has there been any indication NATO or the West is planning an invasion?
@@VaidasBarauskas NATO expansion requires a vote by multiple countries that promised Russia not to expand. So essentially to keep their word only one of them had to just vote "nay"
Don't blame Estonia for German, British, American lies. NATO is responsible for the NATO expansion, not the Eastern European countries
There is no Western or Eastern perspective. There is international law.
Lol.. which no one cares for if it doesn’t align with their national interests
Don't be so pitifully naive.
Republicans are now the ultimate feelings police
@@NunYa953 @jtothed8575 it's obvious to me the commenter was being aspirational. 'But why is there a speed limit if people speed anyways?'. That gets us nowhere.
The commenter is pointing out the frivolity of setting up a false equivalence between aggressor and aggressed.
On the flip side, Russia is in Ukraine and mostly not giving ground. That's why Ukraine must win, or at least be winning, have momentum, before Russia will accept peace. The US (and Vivek) will have no say unless the weapons do the talking.
there is literally no international rules.
Ask US, Russia, China, African countries and Germany.
Putin himself said before negotiations even begin Kiev will have ro recognize Russian sovereignty over the 4 regions plus crimea
Vivek is not just "stupid", but he is obnoxious mother FFF
If this guy wants Russia to withdraw troops from the western hemisphere, then USA should also withdraw its troops from Europe .
Okay, I thought he was smart 😂 but he is not…
He is right, India managed to do it
i wasted all of the time on this video waiting for his point, he has nothing. He just speaks a lot, he has no values , just like VANCE.
@@ChristmasDecember-x5n Vivek doesnt have to agre with everything that trump says or does
😂😂
Vivek... is a smart guy who plays stupid. Nobody will associate with him if he becomes too truthful about why Russia pre-empively struck Ukraine. Just dancing around it, a true politician.
ok wise guy. why did russia pre-emptively struck ukraine?
@@gsurtos6588 if you have to ask, you don't need to know. Jeffrey Sachs and John Mearsheimer could help you though.
@@gsurtos6588 Ask Prof John Mearsheimer, he predicted it many years before the outbreak.
Anyone outside of those nations’ war cabinets giving a sure answers are just delusional and recook propagandas they absorbed
Vivek plays stupid just to test the waters... that's a smart guy. He is not afraid to think beyond the conventional or traditional and present it as an alternative.
A very reasonable solution to prevent WW3. Thank you Vivek and Lex
I’m glad Lex has such varied guests on his podcast because it gives me a chance to listen to them speak for themselves. I would not listen to them otherwise. I also get to see their body language and vibe too.
Here, Vivek comes across as extremely arrogant and know-it-all when, in my opinion, he doesn’t have a good understanding of what’s going on. To make a deal that splits Russia and China (among other things he said) is not simple and smacks of hubris.
Exactly. The guy is geopolitically naive. So the US can form alliances here and there but get to dictate how other countries form their own alliances. It is genuinely baffling the way some politicians think
Vivek has no credibility
Who cares his ideas are Rock Solid. Clearly a really bright guy.
I think the government which illegally invaded Iraq twice and murdered millions of Iraqis has no credibility!
@@testtube9423 He is proposing a shitty deal to Russia which they can't accept.
@@prashantkashyap4387 He's proposing at least trying to make a deal. Compared to the current dumbassed Administration that thinks Ukraine is going to pull infinite manpower out of its ass and win if we just throw a few more billion bucks at it. Fact of the matter is is that Ukrainian men don't grow on trees. We have to figure SOMETHING out before they can't put young men in those trenches and in those tanks and Russia's podunk horde and their Cold War tech win anyway.
How are you going to tell another powerful country what other countries to have military alliance with.
It was a very dumb take by Vivek. The guy is naive geopolitically. The arrogance and hubris is just beyond belief
Similar deals kinda worked sometimes between USSR and US
I think Vivek is on point with his plan for Russia and Ukraine. But he is giving China WAAAY to much credit for its Navy. Its not a powerful Navy...at all.
At 2:09, I thought he was talking about America for a moment :P My bad - ...Cough Iraq, ...cough Afghanistan, ...cough Vietnam, ...cough Syria, ...cough Libya, ...cough Panama, ...cough Grenada!
Although Russia and China have conducted military exercises from time to time recently, their relationship is not a military alliance. The idea of a ‘strategy’ to disrupt the Russia-China partnership is baseless and misleading, as it completely disregards the fact that the U.S. and China maintained a mutually beneficial relationship for 40 years, up until 2015. Such an approach will only lead to further unnecessary conflicts between the U.S. and China.
Vivek was always right and responsible
Separating Russia and China.. 😂😂😂😂
At least one major US politician is giving a possible solution.
Whats Kamala’s solution? Keep giving money until the end of time.
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Yeah, this is one of the most imbecilic takes I've heard in a while. Now what, every rando from the street can go on a podcast and share his "valuable" opinion and be taken seriously?
Has anyone ever thought of a peace deal that actually involves the concept of peace?? ‘Our peace deal must weaken others!!!!’ Doesn’t sound peaceful to me…
The US has never been interested in peace. Only power.
Ukraine war remains me the Iraq invasion by US under false justification, Russia at least has a point in not wanting the encroachment by NATO (US) on its borders.Few people comment or know about the origin or cause of Russia invasion, which is the continued encirclement of Russia by NATO (US) on ex USSR republics. How people expect for Russia not to defend its border from the continuous encroaching of US? What would US do in a hypothetical situation in which Russia or China start building bases on its borders? Remember the Cuban missile crisis?
There are no nuclear weapons in Russian border States. Your analogy is absurd.
Kremlin troll alert ⚠️ ⚠️ ⚠️
@@JackRichardsonM8Sorry, but where in his argument did he make an analogy about nukes on Russia’s borders? Certainly you don’t mean the Cuban Missile Crisis? Cuba is not on the U.S.’ border. There’s 90 miles of ocean in between.
@@realpolitiksanta5980did you read the last two sentences? He literally uses Cuban missile crisis as an example.
@realpolitiksanta5980 The OP said "remember the Cuban missile crisis".
This guy,Ives on another planet
Ha! Russia & China is a defensive alliance. No need to worry there. Looking forward to getting Mexico to join BRICS and start joint defensive military exercises there!
An interesting question that should have been asked: Will NATO offer Russia membership of NATO?
Should hav asked him some hard questions on Ukraine.
Ukraine wouldn't be enough for that. Probably have to pull NATO back to Germany
What consequences will China and Russia would suffered? More sanctions? Over use of sanctions is what got us here.
Why did we push Ukraine into this war in the first place?
This guy is playing "let's pretend", throwing around abstract 6th form half-truths.
Vivek's idea would have been very good before the Ukraine war but it's too late now. That ship has already sailed!!!
Vivek is wrong and delusional
Why?
Because Russia will not accept these BS terms, that's why.
@@4epa1012 and they are winning the war 😂 why would they stop now and leave China for the west that has betrayed them multiple times hahahah
USA forget about international low in IRAQ or Afganistan. So what the f-ck?
Zelenskyy had the opportunity to reject West (US) offer (bribe?) to become part of NATO and choose instead to become a neutral country and that way get the best from west and east. The result of that bad decision we can see it today with hundreds of thousand deaths and a destroyed country plus the danger to the world of the conflict becoming nuclear. Neutrality the key word!
Ukraine isn't a member of NATO. Putin's criminal invasion of Ukraine shows why Poland and the Baltic States joined NATO as a defence against Russian aggression and why Finland and Sweden have just joined NATO.
It was a Russian bride not your predictable evil west bribe
Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Long before Zelenski came to office.
Why the hell would Zelenski want to remain neutral? It makes sense to seek allies against the bully who invaded you in 2014.
He may not be completely right on this one but there is some sense in it
Questions about the war in Ukraine are probably not best targeted at someone who never heard of Kherson, Kharkiv, Melitopol, Mariupol and many other cities on the front of the war.
Why can't those same threats of consequences, that Vivek claims would keep Russia from collaborating with China, also get Russia to pack up and leave Ukraine.
Sounds nice to say but why would a winning superpower take a crappy deal??? This only ends on Russian terms.
Vivek claiming that a president could just negotiate a Russia/China split is the height of hubris. He reminds me of the Ron Silver character in Die Hard.
And why do these Republicans keep siteing Baker's 1990 private assurances to Gorbachev as somehow eternally ironclad while disregarding the 1994 Budapest Memorandum that actually involved the surrender of the world's 3rd largest nuclear arsenal?
Вивек еще очень многого не знает и не понимает, он еще слишком молод, но у него есть потенциал, придет время и он разберется, но только не сегодня, он слишком наивен в этом вопросе
What do you think if Ukraine agrees not to join NATO in the next 10 years, also NATO do not invite any new nations for next 10 years. And Russia agrees not to attack any country in next 10 years and also give Ukraine all territories back including Crimea?
Thanks for the talk. Very interesting.
But I think the golden rule of negotiation between counties is that you can not get the thing you want by negotiating which is out of your military and economic strength.
So the question is that whether Russia is still strong enough to threaten the west in South China sea, around Taiwan? If the answer is no, what can Russia offer on the table? You can not offer something you don't have or you can't do, right?
He thought Russia would enjoy being a little brother in a relationship with the US😂😂😂
This Vivek guy is top notch.
I would have voted for him than either Trump or Biden.
I have trouble to believe that such a guy like Vivek managed to become rich. If you sell yourself you don't need integrity.
A reasonable deal is get rid of nato and stop demonizing russia. 😂😂
US, EU threw Ukraine under the bus, use it and its people and now want to negotiate... fuckin great!
"What you wish for others". Vivek desires to "weaken"...not good diplomacy
So, translation: Sell Ukraine to improve our strategic position. How very Munich in nature.
Vivek, you have to rethink your policy approach.
It Will NOT be successful. Do not underestimate geopolitical situation.
Talk to col McGregor for his opinion.
I think Vevek can do diplomatic negotiations
He's no understanding of Russian politics.
Commmoooooonnnn LEXXXX, some critical question?
7:30 It is unambiguous that Ukraine would have a much better deal in 2022.
Questions: Do you know what was in that deal.
- No
So if Ukraine had to demilitarize (as Russia wanted) according to the deal, would that have been a better deal for them?
If Ukraine has to give up Mikolayiv and Odessa, and Harkiv, would that be a better deal for them?
Or if not that, if they just have to give Russia what they had then: Kherson, basically a stronghold on the west bank of Dnipro, would that be a better deal for them? Dipro is a very wide river, it is almost impossible to advance through it. But according to Vivek, for the Ukrainians it would be great that the Russians have that region over the Dnipro, so they can easily attack the southern parts of Ukraine easily?
If Russia would have permanently taken lands around Kyiv, would that be better for the Ukrainians?
But let us say that they have a peace deal: why would Russia respect that deal? Why would not they just get even stronger and attack in 1-2 years, in a more prepared way?
And what would be Ukraines and the West’s strategy then? What can they do then, when they are attacking in a much more organized manner with more troops and Ukraine only have Javelins?
YOU CAN NOT INTERVIEW POLITICIANS AND PUNDITS IN THE SAME WAY YOU INTERVIEW SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS:
You are great at interviewing scientists. You ask a question and a truthful person has time to answer in the best way.
But if you do the same with politicians, they will just lie through their teeth and spread propaganda.
These people are selling out Ukraine and the US as well.
Lots of pro-war neocons in the comments section sad
So Ukraine should just give 20% of their country to Russia ?
They need to keep fighting
@@eduardtarniceriu102 what about nato should disband or not spread towards russia?
No kidding it's quite amazing! Name me the last war that we can actually be proud of that we should have done made sense and wasn't based on false pretenses? Korea?
@@eduardtarniceriu102they've already lost the entirety of 3 generations of fighting age men X, Y and Boomer. At what point do you think it's enough? When all their Gen Z are dead too?
@@twinkieerella If NATO disband, who's to say Russia won't invade the Baltics next? Like they did with Ukraine and Georgia.
There will never be peace on earth this is the end times guys…
We had a good run
My heart still holds some hope, but my head agrees 💯 with you. I sincerely hope the heart prevails. But with the calibre of extremely dumb and dangerous political leaders, humanity is doomed
America have no right to tell Russia 🇷🇺 who they should align with,never.
Nonsense. Russia isn’t worried about NATO expansion. He wants Ukraine for the land and location but mostly because he thought he could get away with taking it. We would be lucky to have Ukrainians as allies and already owe the Ukrainians deeply for strengthening the NATO alliance and weakening Russia, Tussia that wreaks havoc in Syria, Sudan. Russia the ally of Iran.
Didn't finland just join like last year and putin didn't care at all?
He wants Ukraine specifically. He doesn't care about NATO
What makes people believe that Putin would prefer to be a smaller brother to USA than China? 😂
What a beautiful regurgitation of the 2009 Russian Reset…
As Stephen Kotkin says
There’s peace deals and there’s peace on your knees deal
Shocking that Alexei Fedotov would have Vivek Ramaswamy on his podcast to repeat literal Kremlin talking points, complete with a map animation that's factually wrong. Harasho, tavarish!
Long live Ukraine 🇺🇦 !!!
Vivek is a smart boy and he does have somewhat realistic view of some of the aspects of the conflict. At least compared to what BS is being propagated in the mainstream media and what the political establishment is pushing.
For example, the concern that Russia has always had about NATO. They have been complaining initially and then warning us about NATO pretty much since we went back on our word in 1991. And it has been constant expansion since then, despite their protests. Putin gave a now famous speech in Munich in 2007 regarding the issue. We did not listen and continued. And the sh*t hit the proverbial fan in 2008 when we pushed the Europeans (even though they protested but eventually obeyed) to come up with a declaration that Ukraine and Georgia are welcomed to apply for NATO membership. For anyone familiar with Russian history it became clear that this was a recipe for disaster down the road. Given how many times Russia has been invaded through Ukraine and the close connections between the two countries it was hardly a surprise.
Vivek also pointed out, rightly so, that we sabotaged an agreement that could have stopped the war in its tracks and avoid all the devastation and loss of human life.
And the third and last thing that Vivek said that makes sense to me is that he is well aware that one does need to talk to adversaries and at least try to find some sort of solution. At least try.. Something that the current imbeciles in Washington do not understand. Diplomacy is a dirty word for them. Blinken is a disaster and an embarrassment.
That being said though, unfortunately, his plan has almost zero chance of being successful and sounds a lot more like wishful thinking than a realistic plan.
It could have had some, maybe even a decent, chance of success 10-15 years ago.
Not anymore. That train has left the station.
For one, Russia absolutely does not trust the West anymore. Given the history of our behavior, US assurances are not worth the paper they are written on. The idea that we will offer Russia a deal in terms of re-opening economic relations in return for them severing ties with China and also threaten them with consequences is a laughable idea. It also reveals inability to grasp the true state of affairs. Why would Russia want to do this sort of nonsense? They have endured more than 21,000 sanctions, their economy has adjusted, has been re-oriented to the East and is doing much better than the economies of the Euro countries. They are outproducing the whole of the West (imagine that) in term of military production, the relationship with China is good for both countries, the global South has resolutely refused to follow the West appeals to condemn and sanction Russia, the BRICS alliance is going gangbusters as more and more countries are joining, they are working on a BRICS payment system therefore eroding the role of the US dollar and the list goes on and on and on.
On the Ukraine issue I don't see much hope either for Vivek's plan to work. Russia has made it clear that they consider the issue an existential threat and will go to great lengths to make sure that the objectives they set will be achieved. That is - neutral and demilitarized Ukraine. I see zero chance they will give back territories they have taken. In fact, the more the war goes on the higher the chances are Ukraine will lose more territory and may even cease to exist as a state. There was an offer from the Russians in June - Ukraine withdraws its troops from the 4 oblasts Russia has taken and declares neutrality. But then Ukraine invaded the Kursk region. Now that offer is off the table. If you have followed events one cannot help but notice how the offers are getting progressively worse for Ukraine - from the Minsk agreements when Ukraine would have kept its territorial integrity, then the March 2022, and so on. The more the war drags on the worse Ukraine is. Russia has also modified their nuclear doctrine and lowered the threshold for using nukes. I hear a lot of pundits insisting Putin is bluffing. I don't think he is. I think this is his last warning and there is a high probability of Russia going nuclear if we allow serious attacks deep into the Russian mainland. So unless we are ready to go nuclear as well (over Ukraine) I don't think we can seriously threaten Russia with consequences that they care too much about anymore. In fact, I find it quite arrogant to think that we can use a carrot and a stick with Russia anymore. I think we missed that chance some time aga. Also, his idea that we will insist on Russia withdrawing whatever puny military presence they have in the Western hemisphere while we have tens of thousands of troops, numerous military and CIA bases, missile and radar installations and atomic weapons all over Europe is pure hypocrisy and arrogance.
Maybe Ukraine and Russia as a package in any future NATO talks.
Are you that much stupid?
Why not also remove USA presence in the east?
What are the internationally recognized borders? is this which can be changed by the rule of force and power? Is it okay for Lex? What type of person he is, if he recognizes that the international recognized borders can be changed by some dictators.
For a guy who brags about knowing some Geography of Ukraine, he knows nothing about the goals and aspirations of neither Ukraine, nor Russia. Russia doesn't want Ukraine as a neutral state, it wants to absorb it and then devour half of Europe into it's imperial sphere, maybe all the way to the Mediterranean and control the Slavic, and Orthodox world. This is not something new, it has been an historical goal or Russians since the time of the Tsars, and today's Putin propaganda machine has revived these goals. Ukraine on the other hand see their fate as part of Europe, a fate they believe was robbed by hundreds of years under Russian rule, who they consider barbarians heirs of the Mongol Golden Horde. Vivek has no chance to deal with real thugs like Putin, and it's completely out of depth in this issue. Putin will accept a deal, pour money into the West to corrupt it more and more, and keep pushing into his militaristic imperial aims.
5 centuries of truth in a couple of centences.
You live in lalaland.. Russia has no capacity for anything remotely of the sort.. this isn’t WW2 Soviet Union and Stalin steam rolling to the Elbe..
Ваш комментарий очень интересен, но, к большому сожалению, теперь все стало гораздо сложнее, чем то, что Вы пишите, и только Дональд Трамп на мой взгляд - это единственный, кто понимает суть, Вивек молодой, он еще много не понимает, одно дело иметь знания и совсем другое - опыт, после того, как я прочитал книгу Дональда Трампа 1987 года" Искусство сделки" ко мне пришло понимание что только Дональд Трамп способен это остановить правильно, Вивек слишком наивный для этого, хотя многие его мысли очень интересны, но в данном случае он не все знает и не все понимает
You correctly describe Russian expansionism. As for the fact that "Ukraine sees itself as a part of Europe and this glorious fate was interrupted by centuries of Russian hegemony" As an Ukrainian, I would like to say that such a position exists in Ukraine, but this position is very naive, backward, far from reality and rather harms us than led to a benefit. In fact, Russia is closer to many western nations than we Ukrainians are. Russia, like most Western nations are historically successful cultures while we Ukrainians are historically marginalized because we lived without our own state under foreign rule for most of our history and German or the Polish rule was often worse than the Russian one. Also Ukraine is poorer in relation to both Russia and the West. Therefore, Ukraine is vulnerable to economic exploitation, and Ukrainian migrants are perceived as cheap labor in both Russia and the EU. Among the Western rightists who, like many Ukrainian liberals, like to position themselves as defenders of European civilization against Eastern threats (such as mass immigration, for example), there is a strong sympathy for Russia. In fact, there is nothing surprising here. I support idea that the most natural strategy for Ukraine should be anti-imperialist center-left nationalism, which would be aimed at both armed resistance against Russian hegemony and opposition to unconditional pro-Western pro-neoliberal orientation. Bureaucrats and bankers from the EU or people Biden Administration or American senate may condemn Russia's aggression, but they don't think about the interests of ordinary Ukrainian workers like me. And partially about the interests of it's own ordinary people as well.
This propaganda never fails to garner tons of upvotes, it's a testament to the efficacy of Langley's Operation Mockingbird.
'Murica. Fucc yeah.
Why would Russia leave their alliances? Are you thinking that Russia is stupid enough to do that? 😅 No negotiations with Ukraine Nazi or hegemonic US. This is what Russia will do.
What Vivek is trying to explain is ridiculous
I love this guy, but not this take.
Why does this clip have less than 200 comments and around 8.500 views 8 hours after being uploaded?
THIS GUY should be the president of the United States!!!
Ramaswamy is an excellent speaker and makes fascinating points. I hope this interview can play a role in getting the Russian alliance and NATO into negotiations. I'm dismayed however, by the idea that there's nothing positive for China. We shouldn't assume that China will stand by and accept this kind of an outcome without some kind of gain. And i think that China is a competent and potentially very positive international player. The US and China must somehow enjoy good relations with one-another. Many thanks for this provocative interview.
Why does NATO have to be in negotiations. They aren't a party in this war.
@@VossH2Othe line is blurred. There's reasonable claims that Storm Shadows, SCALPs and ATACMS have to be programmed by NATO specialists.
Also, it's clear that multiple attacks on Crimea and Russian ships have been conducted after drone and ELINT/AWACS flights by NATO jets.
Not to mention that entire Ukrainian economy consists of money from NATO members.
Vivek is a very smart man and is approaching peace from the standpoint that Russia wants peace and will respect sovereign borders and is actually concerned about Nato expansion. I believe that is all naive and Russia's expansionist history proves otherwise and Putin is an Imperialist bully interested only in land grab. So, speaking in a language he will understand this is what I would propose to change his risk to reward ratio and end the war quickly.
What Ukraine gets:
1. Russia pulls out of Ukraine completely.
2. Russia demilitarizes and splits up Crimea 50/50.
3. Nato membership.
4. Black Sea jointly patrolled
In exchange,
What Russia Gets:
1. America won't give Ukraine 100 F16 fighter aircraft and 100 Brand new A10's
2. America will not assist Ukraine in "developing" 250 Nuclear Ballistic missiles capable of reaching Moscow.
3. America will not harass Russian forces on "Japan"s" Northern Islands.
4. America will not assist Norway, Finland and Sweden from cutting off the Russians and taking the Murmansk Oblast as their territory.
5. America will not assist Poland with utterly obliterating Belarus and taking Kaliningrad
6. America and Nato will not send in 100 thousand soldiers into Moldova and arm them and assist them in rounding up 250,000 citizens who are Pro Russian instigators and deporting them to Russia.
Do we have a deal?
"Russia's expansionist history proves otherwise". The same argument could be made for the French (Napoleon), the Germans (Hitler) both of whom have attempted to invade Russia before and the British empire "pretending to be a defensive alliance", an argument the Serbs and Libyans and Syrians would definitely agree with. A serious argument begins analysis from the end of the last conflict in Europe (the Cold War) and works back the sequence of escalations to arrive at the source of the problem. You're not cut out for diplomatic intelligence. Know this and know peace.
no.
Get over Crimea - Ukraine doesn’t need it, it’s just a talking point to them. Crimean Locals won’t want to be Ukraine again, under any circumstance.
"Russia's expansionist history proves otherwise". The same argument could be made for the French (Napoleon), the Germans (Hitler) both of whom have attempted to invade Russia before and the British empire "pretending to be a defensive alliance", an argument the Serbs and Libyans and Syrians would definitely agree with. A serious argument begins analysis from the end of the last conflict in Europe (the Cold War) and works back the sequence of escalations to arrive at the source of the problem. You're not cut out for diplomatic competence or intelligence. Know this and know peace.
@@Myteamandi so much nonsense in a single post. Picking out parts of history to demonize the other side with is a game that two can play and it certainly also applies to the British, Americans, Poles, Germans and French.
UA-cam didn't let my long form response through.
No way Russia takes that deal.. it give Ukraine almost everything it wants
lets be honest and realistic here, with out western support Russia can take back kursk and make many more gains in Ukraine, that is no doubt at all, so thinking that russia can somehow take a deal of dropping china who they have a comon enemy when together they pose a really good threat to enemy and both can have a say is somehow illusional. So there are only 2 two ways, it either goes as Russia wants it or NATO gets involved into this directly and this now brings us to new dynamics of the conflict which honestly it will hurt, but we will be out of this faster
compare this to how Trump answered the question in the debate… such a shame the one in charge is such a moron
wise idea
let's make a deal let's give Alaska back to Russia
and in return they promise never to attack the USA
I don't understand how someone seriously thinking about negotiation with cannibals. Any kind of trading never finish good way to no head cutting side. This 3 years ridiculously show how floppy and reasonless in actions western democracy
VIvek's positions are dubious at best and traitorous at worst. Bring back the Big Gipper..
The foreign affairs expert described this thinker as "mediocre."
Okay Ukrainian shill account, go ahead and explain how you end this war. And I don't want to hear "Give my people all of your money and equipment so we can magically beat Russia before we run out of military aged males." Go ahead.
He is pretty much rewarding putler for his aggression and invasion. This guy does not know what he is talking about
If NATO wants both Ukraine and itself to survive then they must provide Ukraine with immediate NATO membership. Couple that with an immediate call for a ceasefire and negotiations. Even if left with a frozen conflict (i.e. Korean War Armistice of 1953) that would still be better than an ever escalating hot war.
naivete at its finest
Did he say China’s naval capacity? Aint that supposed to be trash?
Yes and no. They have a sizable Navy, but they're building at like ten times the US Navy speed
They lack experience though.
I really hope Vivek gets a good spot in a future administration
Cuba made an alliance with the Soviets/Russia.
This was AFTER the failed assassnation attempt on Castro
and we invaded them and still have a prison there which is wild.
They had a peace deal, but the UK's Boris flew-in on the day of signing and nixed it.
Vivek, like RFK, are more effective in their current roles at current time.
RFK May very well en up renown for saving humanity from poisonous "nutrition" - play on words as was done with the definition of vaccine.
Vivek says, he wants to be ambitious 'for the United States', (2:20), like he is a disinterested party. (again at 3:20, and keeps doing it.)
Vivek, buddy, you are a US citizen, a denizen of 'the West'. You can say Us, We, our country, our values. it's okay, stop the shilling, I just want to hug you.
The ubermench vibe is strong with these techbros.