Quick tip when looking for a core; if you are going through the pull-a-part, the car that looks clean and nice is NOT the one to get your mechanical parts from! If you can’t tell why it’s in the junkyard, it’s probably a bad engine or trans! However the car that is smashed, you can be pretty confident it drove to the scene of the accident! So while you should still consider any mechanical parts a core, especially on older stuff, odds are the one from the crashed car will need the least amount of work to get back into shape.
That is how I always did my junkyard shopping but like Uncle T said, consider everything a core. The reason I say this is because of the modern automotive invention(! DRUMROLL PLEASE!), The Auto Computer! I have seen dozens of automobiles, that with the correct electronic TOOLS and PARTS, they were still excellent automobiles. They ran great and looked VERY NICE! Whether the owners did it or their mechanic ( Who WAS a TOP-NOTCH, Fix ANYTHING Mechanic from the 1970s-1980s) Gave the owner, the Deer in the Headlights LOOK from parts swapping very expensive and non-returnable electronic products. This great mechanic usually doesn't have the scanning tools or the knowledge of what any of it means. Everyone has good intentions but your preacher will tell you (it applies to cars), the Road to Hell is paved with good intentions! Buyer beware more than ever. Ya'll Take Care, John
There was a guy here on UA-cam from England, who posted a 17 part video or so showing you step-by-step how to take the 727 apart and rebuild it. I took my laptop out in the garage and used his videos to disassemble and reassemble/rebuild my transmission. It’s been every bit of 7 years ago, and that transmission is still going strong in my 72 340 Duster.
Bad Tree productions has a few 904 & 727 builds that they do for some of the cars they drive on the street & do some drag time at the strip . They had just done a 727 for the Death pumpkin that's using Cope transmission parts inside manual valve body & trans brake . They seemed to do a good job on showing everything in the rebuilds and checking clearances on stuff in steps and why they do this & even showed so of the home made tools to make things easier to do the tear down and rebuild process . So check them out because they are Mopar guys & some of the videos they do are hilarious at times picking on each other .
Ha haa, I decided to look for a 200-4R trans just yesterday, and found an ad, a used one $600, im like whoa that's high. So yup, parts are available, but not cheap. I'll stick to my 700R4 I got years ago and just buy a shorter driveshaft. But yeah, I'll take my chances rebuilding instead of ordering one.
@@pisstoffcat5136 I know how it works never said it's magic but the avg person does not I've heard all kinds stuff like its the pump for the trans and other stuff
When I was going to tsti and taking a transmission class , Mr. Rowe the instructor, put 2 box fans on his desk as a demonstration, he put them together and turned one on , the other one Started to follow. And he said see, it's not magic . Not trying to be a smart ass, just how it was explained to me.
I'm currently rebuilding a Push button A727, so far the experience has been great, a "built not bought" sort of build. The build so far has been much improved from stock perameters. So far i'm $1200 in parts, parts include: 4 pinion front/rear planetary Front clutch drum with 6 clutch settup Rear clutch drum with a 5 clutch settup Thicker lug front pump gear 2000 stall converter Trans-Go TF-2 Shift kit Lightened sun gear shell Drilled/modified case to allow ATF to reach the sprag for lubrication, instead of getting lube by "splash" Blueprinted case. Billet accumulator servo with no block rod. Forward/reverse billet servos. (Billet servos are necessary at time as the modified valve body pressures tend to crack the stock servos) The best part about this job is i know what i did in the rebuild. And as Tony has said: you can point to a part of a car and say, "i did that myself" Best feeling in the world.
@@peteloomis8456 I didn't go with the bolt in sprag setup, just replaced the springs & rollers only. I can't vouch for the bolt in sprag installment difficulty, but I don't like the idea of drilling more holes to accommodate new anchor points for the new sprag, just creates more areas where the case can get stress fractures/cracks to form. One thing I did manage to learn was, the factory sprag outer race that is staked into the case very seldom shifts in their positions, they were really well staked, almost solid from the factory. Disturbing the factory sprag race is asking for trouble, it hasn't moved for at least half a century, why disturb it's "tomb" now? This A727 is going in a 1964 Dodge custom 880 behind a 361 big block, (viewable on my channel) It's one of the last Chrysler forward look full-size cars. So it's a cruiser, not a racer really. It's important to have that distinction. If you are constantly neutral dropping the trans and beating it up, sure a bolt in sprag "might" help. I say "might" because the full force of the engine will not be stopped by a bolt in sprag, might I recommend a billet front drum? As the front drum is the part that is allowed to over speed when the sprag fails and explodes sending shrapnel through the floorboards. Do watch John at CRT on the explanation of A727 explosions. All I'm implying is a bolt in sprag is a good investment, but there are other critical parts that need to be upgraded in conjunction. But as a dominoes effect, Putting power through some weak/strong components will always find a weak link in the drivetrain.
Another benefit of learning to do it yourself is you might like it and even if you stick to one manufacturer you can make some side money as the local mopar guy, or gm, whatever. Once the word gets out people will be bringing not only work but you'll find yourself accumulating parts that can be used for future rebuilds.
When I needed a rebuild for my transmission, it so happened that a guy at work was getting his Chrysler transmission rebuilt at the time I needed one. He told me of an affordable shop that had a good reputation and a good price. The shop owner and employees, a small shop, had heavy accents and I don't know where they were from. They were known for doing good work and affordably too. They were always going out of business and then starting up again at a new location. So, I got a rebuild in about 2010 for $1,000.00. Still working good today. What a rare deal.
An old guy ran a small shop near me .he was always dirty ,slightly drunk but worked evert day .i had a c4 i needed rebuilt and stopped to see if he could help .he said you take it out,put it back...bring trans and converter...gave me an address to get the kit ,bought it ...charged me 50 dollars and 1 12 pack of beer to rebuild it ....i picked it up 3 days later .looked absolutly brand new ...best trans i ever had ,still working great 25 years later .i take him a 6 pack every once in a while .....great guy
I have only rebuilt 1 automagical transmission and it was a TH350 form the u pull it with an engine attached. I bought a kit off evilbay for it which was a bigger kit than the $150 ish versions are, Kevlar band and a transgo reprogramming kit. It looks intimidating but with a book and taking it easy, it really wasn't bad and it 14ish years later still shifting great.
Frustrating that something that mechanically works just fine and it gets a computer added to the mix.( 4l60, 47re, or the ford aod) I have 4 4l60 trans that I have collected up in different states of disrepair. One with no 3/4 , one with 2nd or third gear only(also electrical connector falling into the trans pan), one that does absolutely nothing, and another that the guy just said was bad. Out of all 4 I hope I can make one that works, but all that computer jazz makes me question why I even like Chevy s10s
@@ryurc3033 most of the electronics on the 4l60e were to overcome deficiencies of the 700r4. Its mostly switches that tell the computer that the shift actually happened and its safe to continue. Big problem on the 700r4 is all it had was the tv cable and no real safeties.....real easy to burn up a 700r4 with a poorly adjusted cable.
Learnt my lesson on the transmission the hard way by the time I bought 2 th350s had em in and out 4x then paid for a shop to rebuild it I could've just bought a new one
You are so right. I bought a " built" trans from a big name outfit and it messed up and I got no satisfaction from them. After that I bought a good used trans and learned how to rebuild it and never looked back.
I been researching on a street/strip th350 I want to put together and was more than overjoyed to find that if one leaves a few well places seals out and drills a couple holes bigger you get the same performance as an aftermarket shift kit saving HUNDREDS 👍 the old school guys have been there done that without an aftermarket kit
And don't forget the old Ford type f fluid ,use that for a firmer shift. If they still make type f? If you've seen b+m trick shift fluid ,it's type f for your gm product and costs a fortune over type f. See if you can scare up some type f ,it's like a shift kit in a bottle. Been years since I messed around with that stuff.
I've done a few transmissions myself. I can tell you that the 904 and 727 are far simpler than any of the other brands. Considerably less parts in there to keep track of where they go. Also a stock replacement 318 727 torque converter will give you some stall behind a more powerful engine. I've used one with a 400 and 440 big blocks and they held up ok. Not super high hp engines but not stock either. Far cheaper than an aftermarket one if you are counting pennies. May have to knock the balancer weight off if you are running a forged crank. I think you can still buy the weight kits and template to weld weights on as well.
I have been waiting for this video of big Richards trans. I have my 318 almost finished from my d100, now ready to go though the 727 transmission. Thanks
Back in the late 80's I had problems with my basic Street/Strip 727 TCI Trans. I had to ship it to them twice on my own dime because the Valve body kept mess'n up.
Well... I do need this... I problem is ... Space to work on it... A904 ... A much longer story is involved,, I have two.. one in my Daily Driver 68 Dart... The other is D.O.A .. Keep on wrenching folk's.. 🇺🇸
I built my first trans when I was 17 years old. It was a 904 non-lockup. I have built dozens since then; 904s, 727s, M20/21/22, A833, Turbo 350, NWC and WC T5, AOD, 4R70W, 42RH, 46RH/RE. I can build all of them with my eyes closed. I don’t pay anyone for anything, body/paint, engine and trans builds, diff builds, you name it. Deep 11 second all steel, full interior street cars. My body and paint is show quality, and I’ve been building 727s on the side for the last few months for $1000 a job. Turnaround is 2-3 days. Easiest money ever.
100% right on the core subject. I tell people that and when they don't listen, they get burned. The cost and quality of "new" engines/transmissions is why I just build it myself.
Good video uncle Tony here in Australia if you have a common car like a Ford automatic The rule of thumb is if you pull it out and put it in yourself to get it rebuilt is 1000 bucks a gear so a very common six speed is six grand………. And at that rate, you are still getting your hands dirty
Some of the odd ball tools and seal installers can be made on a 3 D printer. I found the info on line for one I needed and had a neighbor print it out. Ford wanted $200 or so for their "special" one. It worked great. I only needed it one time, but I still kept it.
I'm glad you made this video. I just picked up a c4 transmission, and I paid $150 for it, and I hoped I did not overpaid for it, but that's what I plan on doing is having it gone through
You can borrow tools from most parts stores and hardware stores now. The deposit is usually the price of the tool in it's new/used condition, but you get all that back when you bring the tool back; or don't bring it back and they don't care, you paid for it, it's yours. They even have their tool lending catalog online you can peruse, but remember they don't list every tool just enough to get your imagination started and your weekend mapped out.
Tony, got any experience with MGBs? One of these could be a cool, cheap, “will it start” type video or an entire maintenance or electrical repair video. The carbs alone are unique enough compared to typical American stuff. Obviously, they’re not fast but they have a similar appeal as a mini-bike/low powered motorcycle and are readily available.
I've never been able to afford a transmission shop, after taking apart a transmission from a shop, they always seem to short cut somewhere inside. My 4l60e in my Ws6 has lasted over 150000 miles on my rebuild. They can be a pain to do, but comfort in reliability over the alternative.
I remember in the 90's TH 350,Th 400 ,C4,C-6,904 and 727 were rebuilt with 6 month warranty for $450 INSTALLED that would be just under $1000 today...Cheapest now is $2500 for those rebuilds and NOT re&re,thats $1500 more than the old days when money is converted but back then he removed the trans and replaced it.FWD cars were similar in price. I always messed with cars bought/sold etc..I didnt mess with transmissions as he could have them done in 2 days,I was just too busy buying/selling and I rebuilt engines but never touched a transmission until 20 years ago..he retired and his shop went to crap with the new owner,prices went up and quality went down.
I did this back in the day with Ford C-4. C-6 and FMX transmissions, as well as top loader 4 speeds, long before there was an internet and I had to rely on Chilton, Glenn's and Motor's repair manuals. And a kindly local dealer who'd let me photocopy manual pages. Lots of work, but well worth it.
I've swapped torque converters but I dread opening up the transmission. Luckily I deal mainly with XJ jeeps so rarely do I have trans issues but pick/pull/marketplace keeps things moving if needed. With the AW4 trans it seems high mileage stockers are more reliable than rebuilds.
I had a transmission specialty shop rebuild my turbine drive dynaflow for my 59 Buick. Result ...kept my car mostly sitting outside in the snow for 4 months. Didn't work right so in shop for another month. Tried to charge me way more than was quoted in the beginning. Fast forward 12 years. Looking for a r4w70 transmission for my fairly nice 97 Explorer Limited. Paid $300 for one from a junkyard. Vehicle had over 500k and was wrecked. When I opened up the transmission, was super obvious it was a fresh rebuild. Installed as it was. Put 150k on (including lots of boat and trailer hauling) and still going strong. Point is either way you go, your taking a risk so take care of them in the first place. Currently have 3 trans coolers on my explorer 😄
Tip, between the mostly same years you can mix a 999 with a 949 and a couple other parts from a 727. Max amount of power 500 horse almost 400 pounds of torque at 6200 rpm. I have mixed the 999 with earlier models as well. Extremely ridiculous second gear shift but can only take so much power and rpm’s before you blow the band or input shaft. With a custom input shaft and band that is hardened you can push it harder. Going into second my dusters front tires would come off the ground and without a torque box and a roll cage you will twist the frame 😂
I remember when I went through shop class I was well ahead of the average city kid, being I grew up on the farm. While they were learning to put together a lawn mower engine I was rebuilding engines and transmissions. I put together a TH350C with a street kit for $250 and the shop made money as well as me. It's been a long time since I looked at a transmission. Mr. Transmission is gone. Rebuild kits are $250, a junker is $500 and a rebuilt OEM TH350 is $2000. Holy shit... A hopped up TH 400 is $5000 now. WTF is going on? I guess I better get into the rebuild business...
I rebuild autos on the side, meaning two every week. I'll charge anywhere from 1100 to 1600 depending on the trans and if they want any goodies like a shift kit or valve body mods. I average two grand a week in profits after my overhead. Do the math, that's a hundred thousand a year for sitting on my ass and playing with a giant erector set. I have an autoimmune disorder and can't stand for long periods of time, so this is perfect for me. Like Uncle Tony said, rebuilding trannys is a real drag but it's quick money and the demand is huge. I'd love to get into selling cores and parts but I don't have the storage space.
@@Whats-It-To-Ya You can make $100k on the side and you haven't expanded your operation?? You need to raise your prices a little and hire some help for low-skill subtasks like cleaning up cores and such. Build a proper shop.
@6:00 those are classic mid south mud dauber pupa deposits in those trans cooler lines, not related to floods, or silt deposits. Mud daubers will plug up any possible hole you can imagine that’s left exposed on a field car with their stinking larval deposits. I still find it to be a welcome tradeoff to losing your entire vehicle to salt rot in the rust belt where I ran away from 20 years ago. 😀
The problems we're seeing in reman units are the same ones we will likely see using the parts to do it ourselves. We will save the labor but also might need to perform our own warranty work just the same. We need decent parts like we had just 5 or 6 years ago. We complained then but it was 1 in 30 problems and it's 1 in 3 now it seems.
i am a professional transmission rebuilder for the last 40 years. i retired 2 years ago. TF8/727 was one of the best transmissions ever made. they are also one of the easiest transmissions to rebuild, but if you have never done one it will be very intimidating,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Buy a book on how to rebuild your transmission. Then watch videos. It's not as difficult as people rumor. diesel fuel makes a good cheaper than mineral spirits solvent. After you clean and de-bur each part wrap it in a masking type paper or news paper. I think there are less parts in a 3 speed auto than an engine. I was surprised how easy they were to rebuild. "NO FEAR"
thank you for this its how i repaired several gm trans i got cores at the scrap yard and basically bought oh kits and a converter always worked out for me didnt need tons of money but cleanness and time again thank you youngsters need to know this
I have the fsm for the 1990 full size pickups with the diesel supplement. Each operation lists the required tools with part numbers if they're proprietary. The fsm for the 90 isuzu amigo says "use a suitable tool"
I recently put a 5-speed behind my flathead Ford in a 1949 F1. I got a junkyard 84 S10 T-5 and a rebuild kit. I took it out and reinstalled it 4 times after finding out a slider wasn't "good enough". But, it saved me thousands of dollars and I got to spend lots of quality time under my pickup.
Nashville flood was terrible, everything was under many feet of water and mud from the Cumberland over flow. Wasn't a typical fresh rain water flood from runoff but the river overflowing and took weeks to recede.
Torqueflite's are really easy, I rebuilt mine in a weekend, had never done it before, did not need any special tools, a slide hammer for the pump, I cut a piece of wood and a C clamp for the clutches and a piece of printer paper to align the rear pump housing if it's a pushbutton, has worked fine so far for 10 years, and if I can do it pretty much anyone can do it. (big thank's to Torqueflite patty's help answering some of my stupid questions)
I had about a dozen Mopar valve bodies just sitting around taking up space and I was going to toss them out. But I decided not to, I found a strictly Mopar transmission guy years ago and handed them to him. He thanked me.😊
found a 68 727 up in rock island IL last summer said it was rebuilt for $400, just took it for a spin for the first time last weekend behind my rebuilt 78 la 360, seemed to shift pretty smooth, Tonys probably right tho, probably shouldnt run it cross country without taking it apart and inspecting it
Well stated Uncle Tony. I'm going to rebuild my first rv2 compressor for my 69 Roadrunner. I wanted a backup core and got lucky on Ebay. I spoke with the seller and he said the compressor turned over smoothly by hand, with no binding. The compressor came without the clutch/ pulley assembly, so he was turning it by the crank snout. I tried it myself when I received it, and it turns as smooth as silk. You can hear it pumping as you do. I feel a lot better about this project knowing that I have a good backup core. In my case, let's just call it insurance
This video is so timely. I about had a conniption fit when I went to price reman AOD for my '66 F100, plus the reviews of most of the reman companies were horrible and not worth the $3000 gamble.. So I am entertaining the idea of getting a core from a salvage yard and try myself, except most salvage yards want $350 to $500. It may be above my pay grade to tackle an auto tranny rebuild but the only way to learn is to try.
While I was building a 360 to swap into my v6 Dakota the stock trans died. I needed to upgrade the trans from 42re to 46re anyway to handle the power. I couldn’t find a core and the local trans shops were no help so I bought a “built” trans from a well known internet company, paid for upgrades to handle 500hp. It took 2 months to get and now installed its junk. Brings new meaning to the term “slush box” the warranty department is impossible to deal with and because I installed it myself basically voids any warranty. Even though I was a ASE/GM certified mechanic for many years. If you have the capability to do it yourself do it. At the end of the day YOU are really the only one you can count on!
I worked in a transmission shop in the early 90's and used to rebuild all those older ones and I'm like you.....I HATED IT but it kept the bills paid and kids fed! Give me engines all day long! And you're exactly right because with what a rebuild costs nowadays even if you find someone local to do it its way cheaper to do it yourself....and you know what you're getting!😉
Send me some of those cheap cores!! Linkage shift Small Block 904 $600-800, SB 727 $1000ish for unknown condition cores down here. Slant 904s are scrap value, cable shift SB, remortgage the house.
They're intimidating as hell 😂 I got lucky when my Vette 700R4 took a shit...an eBay Vette salvager sold me a later model fully functional unit for $150... luckily for me he doesn't dick around with selling/shipping them on eBay
Moved, shop isn't built yet, no pad, just dumped $5K on a "reman" (not counting labor) and I KNOW I could have rebuilt it stronger for less than 1/2 that, counting the specialty tools and a custom convertor. But, until the shop's up, that what I have to do... Great video, Thanks!
Good stuff Tony. I built a 75 440 motorhome engine for my 86 Ramcharger, stock 360 was good but not enough, being 4x4 i needed the output shaft in the big block 727. Everything in the small block is the same as the insides of the big block case. Put in a new converter and the excellent but gone through valve body from the small one, plus the governor. 5,000+ miles, everything is great. Had to use a cable conversion for the carb/throttle body lever. The kit part for the carb was too short in terms of leverage, so I had to modify that longer to get equal movement on both ends, like a stock one has. Gotta watch those kits, every one I`ve seen on a Mopar/727 couldn`t be adjusted correctly because they make the carb bracket too short. Course Im` running a Thermoquad that is absolutely the best carb ever.
One place not to buy a transmission from is Monster Transmission.They do not do what they claim to do.A local transmission repair shop in my area has found this with no upgrades done.One thing to with an used transmission is pull the pan and inspect.I pulled the pan off an used 4L60E once,pan was full of clutch material
my brother just did a garage rebuild on a 4l65e for a gto. on the dyno it put 700 down and held together. the core he used was built by a shop cost big money and poo pooed on the dyno
I love building automatics. A 904 with a wide ratio gearset, and a 4.2 lever. Bump up the line pressure a bit (pan bolt 5/16") space between the bracket. Seasoned with a slant 6 torque converter and it's pure f*n magic😊 on the cheap💰💰
I got a broken 4 speed from a friend, while I was in high school. Went to the dealer bought some bearings, syncro rings, input shaft and a gear. For 1/3 of the cost of rebuilt had a very solid transmission
Yea I need to learn how to rebuild the 4l60's in my chevys took apart some auto trans in school it was not too bad. I paid 2k for a rebuild and its full of leaks its a crap rebuild. Makes me mad. You just need space to spread all the parts apart. If I find any ghetto transmission jacks cheap. Im gonna buy one I guess I can pull it out myself ON THE GROUND ughh. Used to only pull them out on a lift
Same deal with my 67 Cougar, not much available for it, or its ludicrously expensive.. like $900 for quarter skins, not the pair, each. Some Mustang stuff fits, but not exterior sheet metal, so my metal shaping skills are gonna get a workout when I do it again.
LMC Truck has a lot of aftermarket sheet metal. Or you could take a trip to Arizona, Nevada, or California. There are several mid/late 1980s trucks in the Pick N Pulls out here.
The thing I hate the most about the 47re is the overdrive tail shaft splines not lining up. That is some straight up bullsh!t to get them lined up again. The power wedge anchor is annoying if you dont keep up with band adjustment, it falls out. If you are adjusting the band, dont over torque it, the anchor will crack and fall out. Torqueflite is a perfect starting place if you want to learn about transmissions.
Got a local shop for stock rebuild he says about $100 A gear I suppose plus parts & labor but he does a great job I had a TH350 traded in on 700R4 paid $1200 for it rebuilt ran it for years till I sold it.
I've only rebuilt one slushbox, but I've every 90° in the case was hit with a teardrop Dremel bit in the valve body everythinged. He claimed he got 4 mpg better aft 0:02 er the rebuild.4L60e.
I've always rebuilt my own automatics. You can buy all the plates,bearings and seals for a small fraction of the cost of a "rebuilt" (yea,right) trans. I've done many in my time, first one a 727 when I was 17, did it for my 383 six-pack I built. I'm 65 now and just finished the A340 for my Cherokee. I don't trust transmission shops ..... do it yourself, you'll know what's in there.
A friend of mine had Ford C6 tools and he found that he could use those to rebuild Chrysler Torque-Flights. You don't need special tools for each make and type of transmission.
Quick tip when looking for a core; if you are going through the pull-a-part, the car that looks clean and nice is NOT the one to get your mechanical parts from! If you can’t tell why it’s in the junkyard, it’s probably a bad engine or trans! However the car that is smashed, you can be pretty confident it drove to the scene of the accident! So while you should still consider any mechanical parts a core, especially on older stuff, odds are the one from the crashed car will need the least amount of work to get back into shape.
Absolutely Correct...
Hahaha.. drove it's self to the accident....
Beats,The .. well it Ran good,,
Until it didn't...
Bingo PAL 💯👍
This is a darn good point.
It ran well…
Until that #!!@!$ got in the way.
That is how I always did my junkyard shopping but like Uncle T said, consider everything a core. The reason I say this is because of the modern automotive invention(! DRUMROLL PLEASE!), The Auto Computer! I have seen dozens of automobiles, that with the correct electronic TOOLS and PARTS, they were still excellent automobiles. They ran great and looked VERY NICE!
Whether the owners did it or their mechanic ( Who WAS a TOP-NOTCH, Fix ANYTHING Mechanic from the 1970s-1980s) Gave the owner, the Deer in the Headlights LOOK from parts swapping very expensive and non-returnable electronic products. This great mechanic usually doesn't have the scanning tools or the knowledge of what any of it means.
Everyone has good intentions but your preacher will tell you (it applies to cars), the Road to Hell is paved with good intentions!
Buyer beware more than ever. Ya'll Take Care, John
There was a guy here on UA-cam from England, who posted a 17 part video or so showing you step-by-step how to take the 727 apart and rebuild it. I took my laptop out in the garage and used his videos to disassemble and reassemble/rebuild my transmission. It’s been every bit of 7 years ago, and that transmission is still going strong in my 72 340 Duster.
I watched the same series!
Bad Tree productions has a few 904 & 727 builds that they do for some of the cars they drive on the street & do some drag time at the strip . They had just done a 727 for the Death pumpkin that's using Cope transmission parts inside manual valve body & trans brake . They seemed to do a good job on showing everything in the rebuilds and checking clearances on stuff in steps and why they do this & even showed so of the home made tools to make things easier to do the tear down and rebuild process . So check them out because they are Mopar guys & some of the videos they do are hilarious at times picking on each other .
Ha haa, I decided to look for a 200-4R trans just yesterday, and found an ad, a used one $600, im like whoa that's high. So yup, parts are available, but not cheap. I'll stick to my 700R4 I got years ago and just buy a shorter driveshaft. But yeah, I'll take my chances rebuilding instead of ordering one.
They are better mechanics!! Than some of the clowns that call themselves mechanics over here!!!
God I love YT if only for this
Tony video idea cut that torque converter open and show the common man what's in there it's one of the most misunderstood parts on a car
It just a fan blowing at another fan causing it to follow along , it's not magic.
@@pisstoffcat5136 I know how it works never said it's magic but the avg person does not I've heard all kinds stuff like its the pump for the trans and other stuff
I know what's in it, but I've never seen it. I like the idea
When I was going to tsti and taking a transmission class , Mr. Rowe the instructor, put 2 box fans on his desk as a demonstration, he put them together and turned one on , the other one Started to follow. And he said see, it's not magic . Not trying to be a smart ass, just how it was explained to me.
And why a high stall converter is a different animal from a regular Torque Converter
I'm currently rebuilding a Push button A727, so far the experience has been great, a "built not bought" sort of build.
The build so far has been much improved from stock perameters.
So far i'm $1200 in parts, parts include:
4 pinion front/rear planetary
Front clutch drum with 6 clutch settup
Rear clutch drum with a 5 clutch settup
Thicker lug front pump gear
2000 stall converter
Trans-Go TF-2 Shift kit
Lightened sun gear shell
Drilled/modified case to allow ATF to reach the sprag for lubrication, instead of getting lube by "splash"
Blueprinted case.
Billet accumulator servo with no block rod.
Forward/reverse billet servos.
(Billet servos are necessary at time as the modified valve body pressures tend to crack the stock servos)
The best part about this job is i know what i did in the rebuild.
And as Tony has said: you can point to a part of a car and say, "i did that myself"
Best feeling in the world.
Did you go with the rear bolt in sprag by chance and if so how difficult was it to install ?
@@peteloomis8456 I didn't go with the bolt in sprag setup, just replaced the springs & rollers only.
I can't vouch for the bolt in sprag installment difficulty, but I don't like the idea of drilling more holes to accommodate new anchor points for the new sprag, just creates more areas where the case can get stress fractures/cracks to form.
One thing I did manage to learn was, the factory sprag outer race that is staked into the case very seldom shifts in their positions, they were really well staked, almost solid from the factory.
Disturbing the factory sprag race is asking for trouble, it hasn't moved for at least half a century, why disturb it's "tomb" now?
This A727 is going in a 1964 Dodge custom 880 behind a 361 big block,
(viewable on my channel)
It's one of the last Chrysler forward look full-size cars.
So it's a cruiser, not a racer really. It's important to have that distinction.
If you are constantly neutral dropping the trans and beating it up, sure a bolt in sprag "might" help.
I say "might" because the full force of the engine will not be stopped by a bolt in sprag, might I recommend a billet front drum?
As the front drum is the part that is allowed to over speed when the sprag fails and explodes sending shrapnel through the floorboards.
Do watch John at CRT on the explanation of A727 explosions.
All I'm implying is a bolt in sprag is a good investment, but there are other critical parts that need to be upgraded in conjunction.
But as a dominoes effect, Putting power through some weak/strong components will always find a weak link in the drivetrain.
Another benefit of learning to do it yourself is you might like it and even if you stick to one manufacturer you can make some side money as the local mopar guy, or gm, whatever. Once the word gets out people will be bringing not only work but you'll find yourself accumulating parts that can be used for future rebuilds.
When I needed a rebuild for my transmission, it so happened that a guy at work was getting his Chrysler transmission rebuilt at the time I needed one. He told me of an affordable shop that had a good reputation and a good price.
The shop owner and employees, a small shop, had heavy accents and I don't know where they were from. They were known for doing good work and affordably too. They were always going out of business and then starting up again at a new location. So, I got a rebuild in about 2010 for $1,000.00. Still working good today. What a rare deal.
Definitely rare!!!
Typical of skilled hands that don't know how to run a business for profit. They weren't asking a fairly high price for their quality work.
An old guy ran a small shop near me .he was always dirty ,slightly drunk but worked evert day .i had a c4 i needed rebuilt and stopped to see if he could help .he said you take it out,put it back...bring trans and converter...gave me an address to get the kit ,bought it ...charged me 50 dollars and 1 12 pack of beer to rebuild it ....i picked it up 3 days later .looked absolutly brand new ...best trans i ever had ,still working great 25 years later .i take him a 6 pack every once in a while .....great guy
I have only rebuilt 1 automagical transmission and it was a TH350 form the u pull it with an engine attached. I bought a kit off evilbay for it which was a bigger kit than the $150 ish versions are, Kevlar band and a transgo reprogramming kit. It looks intimidating but with a book and taking it easy, it really wasn't bad and it 14ish years later still shifting great.
I rebuilt transmissions for 23 yrs before retiring. The earlier 3 speed automatics are the easiest things to build and troubleshoot.
Frustrating that something that mechanically works just fine and it gets a computer added to the mix.( 4l60, 47re, or the ford aod)
I have 4 4l60 trans that I have collected up in different states of disrepair. One with no 3/4 , one with 2nd or third gear only(also electrical connector falling into the trans pan), one that does absolutely nothing, and another that the guy just said was bad. Out of all 4 I hope I can make one that works, but all that computer jazz makes me question why I even like Chevy s10s
@@ryurc3033 most of the electronics on the 4l60e were to overcome deficiencies of the 700r4. Its mostly switches that tell the computer that the shift actually happened and its safe to continue. Big problem on the 700r4 is all it had was the tv cable and no real safeties.....real easy to burn up a 700r4 with a poorly adjusted cable.
Learnt my lesson on the transmission the hard way by the time I bought 2 th350s had em in and out 4x then paid for a shop to rebuild it I could've just bought a new one
Been there done that. The disappointment is unbearable.
You are so right. I bought a " built" trans from a big name outfit and it messed up and I got no satisfaction from them. After that I bought a good used trans and learned how to rebuild it and never looked back.
I been researching on a street/strip th350 I want to put together and was more than overjoyed to find that if one leaves a few well places seals out and drills a couple holes bigger you get the same performance as an aftermarket shift kit saving HUNDREDS 👍 the old school guys have been there done that without an aftermarket kit
And don't forget the old Ford type f fluid ,use that for a firmer shift.
If they still make type f?
If you've seen b+m trick shift fluid ,it's type f for your gm product and costs a fortune over type f.
See if you can scare up some type f ,it's like a shift kit in a bottle.
Been years since I messed around with that stuff.
I had one of those big name transmissions, went up in smoke in 54 miles 😂
Did they replace it?
@@digschopper9321 I rebuilt it with much better components
Easiest trans I ever rebuilt was a 727. Out of an old Dodge pickup 25 years ago. All in I was under $100 in parts
P.s. Transmission repair man told the Penquin "Looks like you blew a Seal !😮 Penguin responded defensively " No ! That's just icecream ! 🍦"😊😅
Love that classic 😂
“That’s right folks, he’s here all night. Don’t forget to tip your waiter!”
It helps I have a friend who has been rebuilding transmissions for decades and has plenty of parts leftover. 😎
It helps even more if you`re that guy.
I've done a few transmissions myself. I can tell you that the 904 and 727 are far simpler than any of the other brands. Considerably less parts in there to keep track of where they go. Also a stock replacement 318 727 torque converter will give you some stall behind a more powerful engine. I've used one with a 400 and 440 big blocks and they held up ok. Not super high hp engines but not stock either. Far cheaper than an aftermarket one if you are counting pennies. May have to knock the balancer weight off if you are running a forged crank. I think you can still buy the weight kits and template to weld weights on as well.
Thanks Tony. Invaluable information you provide.
I have been waiting for this video of big Richards trans. I have my 318 almost finished from my d100, now ready to go though the 727 transmission. Thanks
Beautiful video. Would love to see an interview with Shane one of these days discussing converter basics.
Back in the late 80's I had problems with my basic Street/Strip 727 TCI Trans. I had to ship it to them twice on my own dime because the Valve body kept mess'n up.
Well... I do need this...
I problem is ... Space to work on it...
A904 ...
A much longer story is involved,,
I have two.. one in my Daily Driver 68 Dart...
The other is D.O.A ..
Keep on wrenching folk's..
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I rebuilt one in my barracks room, way back in 1985. Two Squids lugging a 727 up two flights got some looks.
@@barto6577 I would have loved to witness that! "What in the hey you boys up to?" ha ha! Love it!
I built my first trans when I was 17 years old. It was a 904 non-lockup. I have built dozens since then; 904s, 727s, M20/21/22, A833, Turbo 350, NWC and WC T5, AOD, 4R70W, 42RH, 46RH/RE. I can build all of them with my eyes closed. I don’t pay anyone for anything, body/paint, engine and trans builds, diff builds, you name it. Deep 11 second all steel, full interior street cars. My body and paint is show quality, and I’ve been building 727s on the side for the last few months for $1000 a job. Turnaround is 2-3 days. Easiest money ever.
100% right on the core subject. I tell people that and when they don't listen, they get burned. The cost and quality of "new" engines/transmissions is why I just build it myself.
Good video uncle Tony
here in Australia if you have a common car like a Ford automatic
The rule of thumb is if you pull it out and put it in yourself
to get it rebuilt is 1000 bucks a gear so a very common six speed is six grand……….
And at that rate, you are still getting your hands dirty
Thank you for being my teacher.
I hope everything goes well with you and Kiwi, friends mixing business and such.
Excellent video T ! 😊 This is the kinda stuff we tune in for over and over ! Thank You 😂!
John Cope is one of the most knowledgeable builders in the business! Glad you’re using him.
@@RAMADDICTION he’s a man’s man …don’t worry sweetie
@@RAMADDICTION never had that problem with him. He has always been a gentleman with me.
Some of the odd ball tools and seal installers can be made on a 3 D printer. I found the info on line for one I needed and had a neighbor print it out. Ford wanted $200 or so for their "special" one. It worked great. I only needed it one time, but I still kept it.
I'm glad you made this video. I just picked up a c4 transmission, and I paid $150 for it, and I hoped I did not overpaid for it, but that's what I plan on doing is having it gone through
I'm guessing core value might be the same or more.
As long as yours is good, it's being rebuilt like it would be anyway.
I like the Precision Transmission guy from Amarillo.
I liked his videos. Think he had some health issues
@user-io4rf4ml5e he's back doing videos under Richard and Teresa educational.
Guy is wizard a true pro , he forgot more then most no
You can borrow tools from most parts stores and hardware stores now. The deposit is usually the price of the tool in it's new/used condition, but you get all that back when you bring the tool back; or don't bring it back and they don't care, you paid for it, it's yours. They even have their tool lending catalog online you can peruse, but remember they don't list every tool just enough to get your imagination started and your weekend mapped out.
Tony, got any experience with MGBs? One of these could be a cool, cheap, “will it start” type video or an entire maintenance or electrical repair video. The carbs alone are unique enough compared to typical American stuff.
Obviously, they’re not fast but they have a similar appeal as a mini-bike/low powered motorcycle and are readily available.
I've never been able to afford a transmission shop, after taking apart a transmission from a shop, they always seem to short cut somewhere inside. My 4l60e in my Ws6 has lasted over 150000 miles on my rebuild. They can be a pain to do, but comfort in reliability over the alternative.
I remember in the 90's TH 350,Th 400 ,C4,C-6,904 and 727 were rebuilt with 6 month warranty for $450 INSTALLED that would be just under $1000 today...Cheapest now is $2500 for those rebuilds and NOT re&re,thats $1500 more than the old days when money is converted but back then he removed the trans and replaced it.FWD cars were similar in price.
I always messed with cars bought/sold etc..I didnt mess with transmissions as he could have them done in 2 days,I was just too busy buying/selling and I rebuilt engines but never touched a transmission until 20 years ago..he retired and his shop went to crap with the new owner,prices went up and quality went down.
Uncle Tony you are the motivation I need to be better and to do better. To try harder, to not give up. Thank you
I watched Art's. He never mentioned cleaning that oil passages on the 318.
Man the price of transmissions have risen in cost.
I did this back in the day with Ford C-4. C-6 and FMX transmissions, as well as top loader 4 speeds, long before there was an internet and I had to rely on Chilton, Glenn's and Motor's repair manuals. And a kindly local dealer who'd let me photocopy manual pages. Lots of work, but well worth it.
I did my first transmission last year and I liked it because was something new. Now I want to build a rearend
Transmission bench UA-cam channel is a lifesaver. Used it to build 2 of my own so far!
I've swapped torque converters but I dread opening up the transmission. Luckily I deal mainly with XJ jeeps so rarely do I have trans issues but pick/pull/marketplace keeps things moving if needed. With the AW4 trans it seems high mileage stockers are more reliable than rebuilds.
I used a piece of all thread two chunks of 1x2 pine and a small chunk of 4” pvc pipe in place of Chryslers tool to compress that 16:37
I had a transmission specialty shop rebuild my turbine drive dynaflow for my 59 Buick. Result ...kept my car mostly sitting outside in the snow for 4 months. Didn't work right so in shop for another month. Tried to charge me way more than was quoted in the beginning. Fast forward 12 years. Looking for a r4w70 transmission for my fairly nice 97 Explorer Limited. Paid $300 for one from a junkyard. Vehicle had over 500k and was wrecked. When I opened up the transmission, was super obvious it was a fresh rebuild. Installed as it was. Put 150k on (including lots of boat and trailer hauling) and still going strong. Point is either way you go, your taking a risk so take care of them in the first place. Currently have 3 trans coolers on my explorer 😄
I rebuild a ford c4 in my garage learned some stuff and so far it still works
Tip, between the mostly same years you can mix a 999 with a 949 and a couple other parts from a 727. Max amount of power 500 horse almost 400 pounds of torque at 6200 rpm. I have mixed the 999 with earlier models as well. Extremely ridiculous second gear shift but can only take so much power and rpm’s before you blow the band or input shaft. With a custom input shaft and band that is hardened you can push it harder. Going into second my dusters front tires would come off the ground and without a torque box and a roll cage you will twist the frame 😂
My 75 280z says thankyou and hello
I remember when I went through shop class I was well ahead of the average city kid, being I grew up on the farm. While they were learning to put together a lawn mower engine I was rebuilding engines and transmissions. I put together a TH350C with a street kit for $250 and the shop made money as well as me. It's been a long time since I looked at a transmission. Mr. Transmission is gone. Rebuild kits are $250, a junker is $500 and a rebuilt OEM TH350 is $2000. Holy shit... A hopped up TH 400 is $5000 now. WTF is going on? I guess I better get into the rebuild business...
I rebuild autos on the side, meaning two every week. I'll charge anywhere from 1100 to 1600 depending on the trans and if they want any goodies like a shift kit or valve body mods. I average two grand a week in profits after my overhead. Do the math, that's a hundred thousand a year for sitting on my ass and playing with a giant erector set. I have an autoimmune disorder and can't stand for long periods of time, so this is perfect for me. Like Uncle Tony said, rebuilding trannys is a real drag but it's quick money and the demand is huge. I'd love to get into selling cores and parts but I don't have the storage space.
@@Whats-It-To-Ya You can make $100k on the side and you haven't expanded your operation?? You need to raise your prices a little and hire some help for low-skill subtasks like cleaning up cores and such. Build a proper shop.
@6:00 those are classic mid south mud dauber pupa deposits in those trans cooler lines, not related to floods, or silt deposits.
Mud daubers will plug up any possible hole you can imagine that’s left exposed on a field car with their stinking larval deposits.
I still find it to be a welcome tradeoff to losing your entire vehicle to salt rot in the rust belt where I ran away from 20 years ago. 😀
The problems we're seeing in reman units are the same ones we will likely see using the parts to do it ourselves. We will save the labor but also might need to perform our own warranty work just the same.
We need decent parts like we had just 5 or 6 years ago. We complained then but it was 1 in 30 problems and it's 1 in 3 now it seems.
i am a professional transmission rebuilder for the last 40 years. i retired 2 years ago. TF8/727 was one of the best transmissions ever made. they are also one of the easiest transmissions to rebuild, but if you have never done one it will be very intimidating,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Love hearing from a fellow DIYer!
Buy a book on how to rebuild your transmission. Then watch videos. It's not as difficult as people rumor. diesel fuel makes a good cheaper than mineral spirits solvent. After you clean and de-bur each part wrap it in a masking type paper or news paper. I think there are less parts in a 3 speed auto than an engine. I was surprised how easy they were to rebuild. "NO FEAR"
Unfortunately can't budget build a Ford FE and a toploader 4 speed.
thank you for this its how i repaired several gm trans i got cores at the scrap yard and basically bought oh kits and a converter always worked out for me didnt need tons of money but cleanness and time again thank you youngsters need to know this
Thank you Tony. Another excellent and informative video
I have the fsm for the 1990 full size pickups with the diesel supplement.
Each operation lists the required tools with part numbers if they're proprietary.
The fsm for the 90 isuzu amigo says "use a suitable tool"
Shop manual and utube helped me build a real solid 46re to replace my old 44re..same with rear gears 😊
I recently put a 5-speed behind my flathead Ford in a 1949 F1. I got a junkyard 84 S10 T-5 and a rebuild kit. I took it out and reinstalled it 4 times after finding out a slider wasn't "good enough". But, it saved me thousands of dollars and I got to spend lots of quality time under my pickup.
As a transmission guy for over 20 years best advice is take it apart and lay out in order .especially thrust bearings.
I just bought a 241 red ram, 54'. Im having a hell of a time finding parts and information on it.
Nashville flood was terrible, everything was under many feet of water and mud from the Cumberland over flow. Wasn't a typical fresh rain water flood from runoff but the river overflowing and took weeks to recede.
Torqueflite's are really easy, I rebuilt mine in a weekend, had never done it before, did not need any special tools, a slide hammer for the pump, I cut a piece of wood and a C clamp for the clutches and a piece of printer paper to align the rear pump housing if it's a pushbutton, has worked fine so far for 10 years, and if I can do it pretty much anyone can do it. (big thank's to Torqueflite patty's help answering some of my stupid questions)
I had about a dozen Mopar valve bodies just sitting around taking up space and I was going to toss them out. But I decided not to, I found a strictly Mopar transmission guy years ago and handed them to him. He thanked me.😊
My direct clutches all look like steels lol all burned. No 3rd gear. First 3spd rebuild! Just mid way into it. Good vid T!
How did the 727 and 904 get there numbers. Why are they called that. How do you tell the difference between a lockup and a non lockup.
The tip of the input shaft will be machined smooth on a lockup trans, on both 727 and 904.
found a 68 727 up in rock island IL last summer said it was rebuilt for $400, just took it for a spin for the first time last weekend behind my rebuilt 78 la 360, seemed to shift pretty smooth, Tonys probably right tho, probably shouldnt run it cross country without taking it apart and inspecting it
Well stated Uncle Tony. I'm going to rebuild my first rv2 compressor for my 69 Roadrunner. I wanted a backup core and got lucky on Ebay. I spoke with the seller and he said the compressor turned over smoothly by hand, with no binding. The compressor came without the clutch/ pulley assembly, so he was turning it by the crank snout.
I tried it myself when I received it, and it turns as smooth as silk. You can hear it pumping as you do.
I feel a lot better about this project knowing that I have a good backup core. In my case, let's just call it insurance
This video is so timely. I about had a conniption fit when I went to price reman AOD for my '66 F100, plus the reviews of most of the reman companies were horrible and not worth the $3000 gamble.. So I am entertaining the idea of getting a core from a salvage yard and try myself, except most salvage yards want $350 to $500. It may be above my pay grade to tackle an auto tranny rebuild but the only way to learn is to try.
While I was building a 360 to swap into my v6 Dakota the stock trans died. I needed to upgrade the trans from 42re to 46re anyway to handle the power. I couldn’t find a core and the local trans shops were no help so I bought a “built” trans from a well known internet company, paid for upgrades to handle 500hp. It took 2 months to get and now installed its junk. Brings new meaning to the term “slush box” the warranty department is impossible to deal with and because I installed it myself basically voids any warranty. Even though I was a ASE/GM certified mechanic for many years. If you have the capability to do it yourself do it. At the end of the day YOU are really the only one you can count on!
Great video yes it is very true about you working on your vehicle and happiness in telling everyone you fixed it yourself 😊😊😊
I worked in a transmission shop in the early 90's and used to rebuild all those older ones and I'm like you.....I HATED IT but it kept the bills paid and kids fed! Give me engines all day long! And you're exactly right because with what a rebuild costs nowadays even if you find someone local to do it its way cheaper to do it yourself....and you know what you're getting!😉
Send me some of those cheap cores!! Linkage shift Small Block 904 $600-800, SB 727 $1000ish for unknown condition cores down here. Slant 904s are scrap value, cable shift SB, remortgage the house.
They're intimidating as hell 😂 I got lucky when my Vette 700R4 took a shit...an eBay Vette salvager sold me a later model fully functional unit for $150... luckily for me he doesn't dick around with selling/shipping them on eBay
was that guy in eastern nebraska?
I used a cheap ball joint press from Harbor Freight to replace the bushings.
Moved, shop isn't built yet, no pad, just dumped $5K on a "reman" (not counting labor) and I KNOW I could have rebuilt it stronger for less than 1/2 that, counting the specialty tools and a custom convertor.
But, until the shop's up, that what I have to do...
Great video, Thanks!
Where do one find hop up parts for that transmission 😊
Good stuff Tony. I built a 75 440 motorhome engine for my 86 Ramcharger, stock 360 was good but not enough, being 4x4 i needed the output shaft in the big block 727. Everything in the small block is the same as the insides of the big block case. Put in a new converter and the excellent but gone through valve body from the small one, plus the governor. 5,000+ miles, everything is great. Had to use a cable conversion for the carb/throttle body lever. The kit part for the carb was too short in terms of leverage, so I had to modify that longer to get equal movement on both ends, like a stock one has. Gotta watch those kits, every one I`ve seen on a Mopar/727 couldn`t be adjusted correctly because they make the carb bracket too short. Course Im` running a Thermoquad that is absolutely the best carb ever.
Great video, I would like to refresh my Chevy 4.8L transmission. Where could I find great quality parts?
One place not to buy a transmission from is Monster Transmission.They do not do what they claim to do.A local transmission repair shop in my area has found this with no upgrades done.One thing to with an used transmission is pull the pan and inspect.I pulled the pan off an used 4L60E once,pan was full of clutch material
my brother just did a garage rebuild on a 4l65e for a gto. on the dyno it put 700 down and held together. the core he used was built by a shop cost big money and poo pooed on the dyno
Done there been that. Tony. Spot on!!!
Uncle Tony's Garage, This made me laugh so much! Thanks for sharing!
This was great..
I love building automatics.
A 904 with a wide ratio gearset, and a 4.2 lever.
Bump up the line pressure a bit (pan bolt 5/16") space between the bracket.
Seasoned with a slant 6 torque converter and it's pure f*n magic😊 on the cheap💰💰
Well known aftermarket transmission company that is bad out of the crate, and will not answer calls. Sounds like Monster Transmission.
I got a broken 4 speed from a friend, while I was in high school. Went to the dealer bought some bearings, syncro rings, input shaft and a gear. For 1/3 of the cost of rebuilt had a very solid transmission
When I was broke.. I was tired of buying crap transmissions. Then in 2002 I got a kit for a th350 ordered for 60 bucks. Drove it 2 years thereafter.
Great video tony. You should make a video about shift kits, the benefits and downfalls or whatever you’d like to say
Yea I need to learn how to rebuild the 4l60's in my chevys took apart some auto trans in school it was not too bad. I paid 2k for a rebuild and its full of leaks its a crap rebuild. Makes me mad. You just need space to spread all the parts apart. If I find any ghetto transmission jacks cheap. Im gonna buy one I guess I can pull it out myself ON THE GROUND ughh. Used to only pull them out on a lift
I’m rebuilding a 66 Barricuda, 904 , it shifted great, fluid clean. Got some seal leaking. Advice welcome.
You've given me the desire to do one myself. A few other guys online are saying similar to what you are. :)
Have you tried finding parts for a 1985 dodge d150? Mechanically the parts are available but not for the body parts.
Same deal with my 67 Cougar, not much available for it, or its ludicrously expensive.. like $900 for quarter skins, not the pair, each. Some Mustang stuff fits, but not exterior sheet metal, so my metal shaping skills are gonna get a workout when I do it again.
LMC Truck has a lot of aftermarket sheet metal. Or you could take a trip to Arizona, Nevada, or California. There are several mid/late 1980s trucks in the Pick N Pulls out here.
The thing I hate the most about the 47re is the overdrive tail shaft splines not lining up. That is some straight up bullsh!t to get them lined up again. The power wedge anchor is annoying if you dont keep up with band adjustment, it falls out. If you are adjusting the band, dont over torque it, the anchor will crack and fall out. Torqueflite is a perfect starting place if you want to learn about transmissions.
Got a local shop for stock rebuild he says about $100 A gear I suppose plus parts & labor but he does a great job I had a TH350 traded in on 700R4 paid $1200 for it rebuilt ran it for years till I sold it.
great advice
I've only rebuilt one slushbox, but I've every 90° in the case was hit with a teardrop Dremel bit in the valve body everythinged. He claimed he got 4 mpg better aft 0:02 er the rebuild.4L60e.
I've always rebuilt my own automatics. You can buy all the plates,bearings and seals for a small fraction of the cost of a "rebuilt" (yea,right) trans. I've done many in my time, first one a 727 when I was 17, did it for my 383 six-pack I built. I'm 65 now and just finished the A340 for my Cherokee. I don't trust transmission shops ..... do it yourself, you'll know what's in there.
Firm shift, shift kit. Just put a towing package shift kit in it and you'll be happy. Just spring changes. Again, not scary.
A friend of mine had Ford C6 tools and he found that he could use those to rebuild Chrysler Torque-Flights. You don't need special tools for each make and type of transmission.