FRUSTRATED! Let’s be realistic about Pantoja vs Moreno and the UFC Flyweight Division…

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  • @RonniePTexan
    @RonniePTexan Рік тому +66

    I saw Moreno on the Pat McAfee show the other day. He's smart enough to go get his face in front of new media outlets and new fans. Most fighters and even champions are busy hiding under a rock. Moreno is trying to build his brand and we should support him.

    • @wat4036
      @wat4036 Рік тому +6

      WHAD

    • @RonniePTexan
      @RonniePTexan Рік тому +2

      @@wat4036 -Uncle- _Lord_ Chael's and the Sports Stooge fanbases are a combination waiting to happen. Uncle Chael has mentioned Pat several times, so I know he follows Pat. Now we just need Pat to have Uncle Chael on his show.

    • @-Kreger-
      @-Kreger- Рік тому +3

      Whaaad

    • @monkeyman9856
      @monkeyman9856 Рік тому +1

      @@RonniePTexan hopefully not cause that overrated show is just pat being obnoxious with his non athlete nerd friends. Only time it’s funny is when aj hawk is on

    • @RonniePTexan
      @RonniePTexan Рік тому

      @@monkeyman9856 Well AJ Hawk is on 80-90% of the time... Either way, even if it's not your cup of tea, it's still a massive show. It gets more views than any show on ESPN, FS1 etc. Pat's show has a massive reach and that's important to any fighter looking to build their brand and build up MMA. Everyone forgets that Conor McGregor became a massive star long before his press conferences became a circus. Only hard core fans watch the press conferences. What Conor did was go on every media outlet from local TV and radio shows around the world, to bloggers, to podcasts to USA Today, Good Morning America, the late night shows and sports channels like FS1 and ESPN. They were a mix of different audiences so little old ladies in Iowa and young men in LA or NY were introduced to a fighter named Conor. The blueprint was set by -Uncle- _Lord_ Chael and Conor just added the newer outlets like social media, podcasts etc. Brandon Moreno is smart to go onto shows like Pat's and get his name out there to millions of sports stooges who are mainly NFL fans, but have some interest in other sports. Hopefully Moreno keeps doing this type of thing and goes on every type of media and social media outlet. That is how to build up fighter pay, not just grumbling about it. MMA/UFC fighters are the last athletes to figure out that their name/brand needs to be out there and promoted so their sport generally and them specifically can make a ton more money. Guys like Paddy, O'Malley and a few others have followed Chael's advice and they make millions a year outside of the octagon. Chael has said it a million times "you don't have to talk trash, but you do need to talk". Sorry to make this so long, but you seemed like a reasonable person and I figured I'd give you my full reasoning and thoughts behind what I meant. Moreno went on Pat's show, but you could insert any media/social media outlet with a large market in the place of Pat's show. Moreno is being smart, and I'm hoping that more fighters follow this path. Have a good day brother.

  • @mr.yrgratio5470
    @mr.yrgratio5470 Рік тому +47

    Chael never mentions how Moreno has a whole country beside him with rich fighting history . Mexico loves him I mean the guy literally had like 5 murals in Mexico already😂😭

  • @tadeumoraes8096
    @tadeumoraes8096 Рік тому +91

    I grew up as a Brazilian hating Chael Sonnen as much as possible. Today, wiser and older i realize he was extremely important for the UFC. Nowadays almost nobody wants to be the heel.

    • @youngfxx8437
      @youngfxx8437 Рік тому +4

      Too real

    • @JamieReynolds89
      @JamieReynolds89 Рік тому +6

      imagine wanting to hate someone as much as possible who you don’t even know. I find they behaviour so strange. I almost think the person having so much hatred towards someone over nothing shows they re unstable as fuck.

    • @youngfxx8437
      @youngfxx8437 Рік тому +14

      @@JamieReynolds89 I mean, in his defense, it sounds like he was someone who was younger and the only experience he has with this person is that they absolutely SHIT on his country. Hating them sounds like a reasonable response

    • @tadeumoraes8096
      @tadeumoraes8096 Рік тому +13

      @@JamieReynolds89 I was like 10 years old. I hope you understood what I meant. The point wasn't about whether I liked him or not, even because I was a child, but about me later noticing the importance of a villain in this sport.

    • @tadeumoraes8096
      @tadeumoraes8096 Рік тому +1

      @@youngfxx8437 you nailed it.

  • @gucciserg8093
    @gucciserg8093 Рік тому +52

    IM FRUSTRATED AS WELL UNC!!!! You should be the CHAMPION OF THE FLYWEIGHT DIVISION!!! Not these bums 😭🤣

    • @anandboss7034
      @anandboss7034 Рік тому +16

      Yoooo, this is the first time I've ever seen chael like a comment, respect.

    • @gucciserg8093
      @gucciserg8093 Рік тому +5

      @@anandboss7034 Thank you good sir! 🫡 I only spoke facts and Unc Chael appreciated the factual information that was given.

  • @Thurbad4
    @Thurbad4 Рік тому +35

    Chael really put the pronunciation of Pantoja through it's paces! I counted six different pronunciations 🤣

  • @pulrab7135
    @pulrab7135 Рік тому +36

    I wish the UFC would tell me more about how fast Moreno is and how sharp his boxing is and not just how adorable and cute he is

    • @HipHopAn0n
      @HipHopAn0n Рік тому +3

      Not to mention
      *HES A HANDSOME GUY*

    • @mrfantastik8168
      @mrfantastik8168 Рік тому +1

      Why does it matter? It is his story line. He is the "Assassin Baby". Casual fans are in for a Surprise every time he fights. You and I know his cuteness, good manners, and all his good principals and morals are not what are selling his ppv's. It is his skill. I'm not a UFC di-ck rider, but in this case I like he is painted as a "Docile, gentle & nice guy" that turns into a SAVAGE once the ref says "let's go"

    • @IronReef77
      @IronReef77 Рік тому

      Right. I'm tired of hearing how "adorable" a grown ass man is that fights in a cage. To be fair he helps the narrative due to his actions. Fuck that

    • @francoh3706
      @francoh3706 Рік тому

      Thank you bro!!!! At least one guy has noticed how good Moreno is and how technical he is, he literally escaped from 2 submissions against Figgy last saturday.

  • @AdventusQ
    @AdventusQ Рік тому +40

    Moreno is getting undermined by the UFC's marketing machine. They keep pushing this Lego shit on him. That will never get him over. You don't get the small division over by telling us "look how cute their champion is 🥰"

    • @glenshort6567
      @glenshort6567 Рік тому +2

      No, he just has nothing else to market about him. Definitely not that goofy face and his big lips hanging off the side of his face.

    • @SunTzuMedia
      @SunTzuMedia Рік тому +6

      @@glenshort6567 lol wtf

    • @TheJmsJose97
      @TheJmsJose97 Рік тому +4

      @@glenshort6567 bruh wont say that to his face tho

    • @glenshort6567
      @glenshort6567 Рік тому

      @@TheJmsJose97 he’s tiny. No heavyweight it scared of a flyweight.

    • @TheJmsJose97
      @TheJmsJose97 Рік тому

      @@glenshort6567 you ain’t no heavyweight and even if you are hed choke you tf out man cmon

  • @KILN0VA
    @KILN0VA Рік тому +9

    They should put as much promotion into the Division as they do Slap Fighting

  • @AlwaysApproved
    @AlwaysApproved Рік тому +9

    idk how the division isnt exciting though. i love it. seeing someone finally fights hands against a russian wrestler (kkf) and win was fucking amazing. the technicality, speed, dexterity, and accuracy is fucking astonishing in flyweight

  • @wjbt3
    @wjbt3 Рік тому +8

    He can't be the villain. It's not in the Pantaleo diet!!

  • @OldSkullGaming
    @OldSkullGaming Рік тому +7

    I respect Chael bus his take on this is really strange. He talks about Moreno like he cant main event a ppv and thats not on Moreno, thats on the UFC who always had that policy of the heavier weight class gets the main event. Cejudo definetely "saved" the division because was the only fighter at the time that could give DJ a competitive fight but even after that he didnt main evented 99% of the events he was on...he was a double champ and he was NOT main eventing anything.
    Moreno was main eventing a event in Mexico at 23 years old.
    Its pretty clear Chael doesnt see the potential of Moreno as a star because he is an american that with all due respect shows contantly that is really ignorant at a lot of things, he was a good fighter not a great fighter. But he made a carrer talking not being great at anything, not only Moreno is going to end his carrer doing more meaninful things in the fight business than Chael but he is going to do it fighting not talking and for someone like Chael thats hard or altmost impossible to understand because he never had that kind of talent.
    Not to mention popularity but just to give you an example with stupid metrics like Chael does, Moreno has More followers on insta that Cejudo and Chael put together. They wanted a mexican born star and they finally have one but that person is getting things done in the cage not on a mic and people like Chael should respect that instead of constantly trying to make things done in a different way. Not everyone has to create a gimmick to sell ppv and even when someone does like Cejudo, no one cares because it looks fake from a mile away.

    • @bornexamination2432
      @bornexamination2432 Рік тому +3

      🔥🔥🔥

    • @ChaelSonnenOfficial
      @ChaelSonnenOfficial  Рік тому +5

      I forgive you.

    • @OldSkullGaming
      @OldSkullGaming Рік тому +1

      @@ChaelSonnenOfficial That´s great but maybe forgive yourself for being wrong about Moreno? There is no need to make constant videos trying to " prove " that somehow you were right about him not being at Figuereido´s level. It´s ok to be wrong even if you were a pro fighter, it would be easier to make a video saying that you were wrong from the start about Moreno instead of constantly looking for a way out and try to find a way to finally be able to say...." see I told you he was not that good " . Maybe just be a better man and LET IT GO Mr Sonnen.

    • @ChaelSonnenOfficial
      @ChaelSonnenOfficial  Рік тому +3

      I’m not mad at you. I have always been and will remain here to help you.

    • @OldSkullGaming
      @OldSkullGaming Рік тому

      @@ChaelSonnenOfficial Yikes

  • @houndYT
    @houndYT Рік тому +6

    Things I learned today. Pantoja (actually pronounced pantageoo) won his fight last Saturday (probably by finish)

  • @ben5154
    @ben5154 Рік тому +8

    "You can't bring a stick, you can't bring a friend, and you can't poke them in the eye" well, there goes my dream of becoming an mma fighter

  • @twhit4321
    @twhit4321 Рік тому +4

    "I don't respect any man that is smaller or younger than me" CPSonnen

  • @johnes
    @johnes Рік тому +3

    I thought Brandon V davidson should have been the main event over Glover/Jamal

  • @anthonyrivera406
    @anthonyrivera406 Рік тому +9

    Nah can’t get behind this at all lol the fact that more is Mexican and he screams it out after a win is something I don’t think Chanel understands how massive that it is. He told Brazil’s crowd viva mexico PERROS. He got balls and is so likable. I think chael is stretching it

    • @chizzelfingers
      @chizzelfingers Рік тому

      but no1 cares what u think. thsts why millions watch chael and not you. 😂 charl is spot on,per usual

    • @8thaccount535
      @8thaccount535 Рік тому

      Is there beef between Mexico and Brazil? Why is it a big deal if he said viva Mexico?

    • @raven5theday141
      @raven5theday141 Рік тому

      @@chizzelfingers who da fuck is dat guy?

  • @C_Alan
    @C_Alan Рік тому +3

    Henry cejudo was smart. The day he popped off to suga Sean after his fight was the day he started getting talked about again. And he’s stayed in the light ever since

  • @TheBatIsHere
    @TheBatIsHere Рік тому +2

    I don't think I've heard him once, praise moreno....

  • @kanethesevenfootmonster868
    @kanethesevenfootmonster868 Рік тому +6

    Chael you are completly right about, they Have to Promote this Division.......

    • @FredLo44
      @FredLo44 Рік тому +4

      That is true they’ve only been promoting Moreno. Everyone else has been left in the dark, hell an important big fight for the division, the Rizin Champ Manel Kape’s debute against Pantoja got sidelined and wasn’t even the co-main in a fight night card. Any other division who had a lineal champ make their debute from a competitive league would have been the headline for at least a fight night, just like Justin Gaethje’s debute, hell Michael Chandler was already being offered the alternate seat for Khabib vs Gaethje.

  • @RonBombJovi
    @RonBombJovi Рік тому +3

    I think fighters are afraid of crossing the line between K-Fabe and playing a character to hype up their fights. They want to amp up their fans and themselves before getting locked in that cage, but they still want people to like them and think they're good people after the fight is over. So they're torn between playing a character and being authentic. Very few fighters can play the character at all times and not give a damn about being liked because they're making F you money, like Conor and Colby. When Moreno comes out and says he's only saying the things he is because he was playing a character, he loses integrity which makes people like him less, it's self defeating. Either play a character at all times no matter what, or be authentic at all times no matter what, but you can't do both

  • @ibewillow
    @ibewillow Рік тому +2

    "Pontagio" followed by, "im not looking to be a jerk about it", Hahahaha best troll ever.

  • @rolandorod9883
    @rolandorod9883 Рік тому +3

    Pontellio!? LMFAO

  • @Gojukid
    @Gojukid Рік тому +8

    Pantajio 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @GypsiAAA
      @GypsiAAA Рік тому +2

      I was waiting to see how Chael could and would butcher the pronunciation 😂😂😂

    • @kanethesevenfootmonster868
      @kanethesevenfootmonster868 Рік тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Soto31
    @Soto31 Рік тому +2

    Chaels latest phonetic fighter name: Pan-tay-joe

  • @eren2519
    @eren2519 Рік тому

    Pantellio, Pantejor, Panteggio, Pantegiani. This is the duality of chael sonnen and tito ortiz

  • @hasanabbasi9000
    @hasanabbasi9000 Рік тому +3

    pantajio is a tough match up for moreno

  • @GSMnocap-memesdaily-
    @GSMnocap-memesdaily- Рік тому +1

    Some of my favorite sound bites are from the chael vs wanderlei Silva

  • @Nasrange888
    @Nasrange888 Рік тому +3

    Idk who this Pontagio guy is, but he doesn't sound nearly as exciting as Alexandre Pantoja

  • @phnxsteve7up
    @phnxsteve7up Рік тому +2

    3:07 there’s levels to this. Conor is the main event to everyone except chael

  • @shivams9329
    @shivams9329 Рік тому

    Fantastic video

  • @kurtanglerookieyear
    @kurtanglerookieyear Рік тому +2

    pan..taggio?

  • @geostillo78
    @geostillo78 Рік тому +2

    I've been trying to keep this to myself, but Chael, my dude. Those frames look ridiculous. You're pushin' 50, bro(as am i). Get some grown-up glasses.

    • @johnwarren6762
      @johnwarren6762 Рік тому

      Those are about as brown up glasses can get lol

  • @purpleaki1277
    @purpleaki1277 Рік тому +1

    I'd love to see chael commentating

  • @davidadkins6755
    @davidadkins6755 Рік тому +2

    Chael.....I'm your biggest fan but I'm losing interst in mma because they clearly are propping up fake superstars, where are the real dudes who funding dominate?

  • @fpsantos8222
    @fpsantos8222 Рік тому +1

    Cmon Chael at least say Pantoja right...

  • @MrTonyboy808
    @MrTonyboy808 Рік тому +1

    And by being the bad guy, he brought the best out of his opponents.

  • @jewbme
    @jewbme Рік тому +1

    We will never forget

  • @mak1532
    @mak1532 Рік тому

    You lost me at “Pantajio” 😂😅

  • @stolkalforhire
    @stolkalforhire Рік тому +1

    Uncle Chael, I watched all the fights on Saturday and I have no clue who you are talking about. Is that my fault or theirs?

  • @THEREALZ0R0
    @THEREALZ0R0 Рік тому +1

    the barber😭

  • @belalbelal4614
    @belalbelal4614 Рік тому

    Wow! You have me interested in the 125lb division. Good stuff

  • @txfg2si
    @txfg2si Рік тому +1

    Geez talk about being unprepared for a video 🤣🤣 Pantoja was the back up. And why do you hate the division. Moreno has a ton of fans and has been the main event twice. What are you talking about 😂

  • @executivelifehacks6747
    @executivelifehacks6747 Рік тому

    Atreyu, you must save Pantajia!

  • @MattPowers209
    @MattPowers209 Рік тому

    Have watched off n on since 2008 && heard his name few times before but don't believe ever watched 1 his fights. Henry did save em all & xan destroy them all!

  • @SaVaGe-513
    @SaVaGe-513 Рік тому

    Uncle chael once again nails it…. Fighters are cold blooded so who cares if ur the heel or not??

  • @superduty2023
    @superduty2023 Рік тому +3

    Tito tapped

  • @chrisnunez5120
    @chrisnunez5120 Рік тому +1

    Bro I want to see you in person with my 5 year old son I hope one day I can

    • @chrisnunez5120
      @chrisnunez5120 Рік тому

      Your the best fighter the best trash talker before Colby and others came along, I always show my son your fights

    • @BootsOfLeather
      @BootsOfLeather Рік тому

      @@chrisnunez5120 he literally taught Colby and Cejudo how its done.

  • @Ianlively
    @Ianlively Рік тому +1

    Chael please read names as you pronounce them😂

  • @jameyabernathy710
    @jameyabernathy710 Рік тому

    I seen frustrated and was like hell yeah, this should be goid

  • @DetricBelectrical
    @DetricBelectrical Рік тому

    Preach it!

  • @Sean663
    @Sean663 Рік тому

    Pantalio begging. You couldn’t get past Figgy, so sit down Pontogio.

  • @DonaldGreer84
    @DonaldGreer84 Рік тому

    I was so excited to see how he pronounced his name lol

  • @stevenb2511
    @stevenb2511 Рік тому

    Glasses look good, Chael

  • @robertrodriguez578
    @robertrodriguez578 Рік тому

    Mr. Sonnen makes lines so you can read between them

  • @uncouthboy8028
    @uncouthboy8028 Рік тому +1

    Chael, these glasses. Come on.

  • @mdp_-vn4bo
    @mdp_-vn4bo Рік тому

    1:54

  • @TheSausageKingOfChicago
    @TheSausageKingOfChicago Рік тому

    Still undefeated

  • @OldSkullGaming
    @OldSkullGaming Рік тому

    Why Chael has taken all this takes about Moreno like something personal? Is this because he was wrong thinking that he was going to be destroyed in the second fight and proved wrong 2 more times after that?

    • @directorwolfdog3698
      @directorwolfdog3698 Рік тому +3

      Noticed that too. My heart pumps like it doesn’t for a lot of other fighters when he gets in there. Im invested in him as a fighter and I know I’m not the only one.

  • @selloutfadez
    @selloutfadez Рік тому +2

    Pantageo

  • @timephire
    @timephire Рік тому

    Uncle Chael was cheering for T.J. to win all those years ago and shut down the division...

  • @iamcomanche9184
    @iamcomanche9184 Рік тому

    it's not a hard name to pronounce why the shade

  • @gstarmma
    @gstarmma Рік тому

    6:23

  • @floozle702
    @floozle702 Рік тому

    lmao pantoja hasnt fought in half a year

  • @xJester23
    @xJester23 Рік тому

    Pan what

  • @andresmaldonado7356
    @andresmaldonado7356 Рік тому +1

    Chael how are you so talented as butchering every name lmao seriously you add and subtract letters and manage to pronounce it with a new accent

  • @chryslertechnician3439
    @chryslertechnician3439 Рік тому

    💯💯💯

  • @Fony_turgeson
    @Fony_turgeson Рік тому +1

    i believe pantoja would smoke moreno and figgy

  • @chaireja21
    @chaireja21 Рік тому

    Chael when will you bring up the fact that you don't like Moreno? He's proven again and again why he's a champion. Don't get me wrong Davidson was incredible but just doesn't seem likable. Davidson was a joke with his cringe-ass manager and both dressed up in douche clothing. I don't know I just like humble people and the ones that don't cry about it.
    Still, love your channel but I would like to see you eat your words when you said Brandon was going to lose dominantly against Davidson.
    Give the man Brandon some praise because he shows up and puts on some the best performances and comebacks in UFC history.

  • @tonyd3057
    @tonyd3057 Рік тому

    Why is he convinced you gotta go wwe to be successful???

  • @nz5652
    @nz5652 Рік тому

    Why are you yelling

  • @milky_dromeda
    @milky_dromeda Рік тому

    Pistachio

  • @MrFaceNumeroUno
    @MrFaceNumeroUno Рік тому

    Pontaliciousalia

  • @98DEB
    @98DEB Рік тому

    Sell his soul?

  • @elizabethjean2709
    @elizabethjean2709 Рік тому +1

    Pantoja. He’s not a villain. He is right. Just because Moreno lead with a smile doesn’t make him a hero. Therefore, he doesn’t need a villain. More than one way to skin a cat. Yeah, entertainment is a thin. It's not the thing. The UFC could bring on a few "personalities" and feed them to the fighters. I’m being serious about this.

  • @vMaaRz
    @vMaaRz Рік тому

    First

  • @Pepper-g7l
    @Pepper-g7l Рік тому +1

    King triple C would smoke both in the same night

  • @brandondub6429
    @brandondub6429 Рік тому

    I fucking hate chael sonnen but he ain’t wrong for saying high tide raises all ships. But I also think that time will make it the division better. There are trends and sometimes things sink a little gotta be patient

  • @Sinisterkid34
    @Sinisterkid34 Рік тому +1

    Pantageo