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John Bonham is considered one of the greatest (if not THE greatest) rock drummers to have ever played the drums. His influence on rock and pop drumming is incredibly important. In this drum lesson I will show you 3 John Bonham drum beats from 3 different Led Zeppelin songs that I think every drummer should learn.
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10:30 When the levee breaks
16:21 Fool in the rain
23:01 Whole lotta love
Jens Harald Thanks for doing this 👍🏻👊🏻
You are the real MVP.
Thank you!
I haven't made it through the video yet, but I was really hoping Fool in the Rain was going to be in there. Gotta watch it all now.
Good job
I don't even play drums, why I'm here??
I see John Bonham I click!!
He’s one of the only drummers I know that that inspires musicians from multiple genres of music.
Never noticed the ghosties in “When the Levee Breaks” before and I’ve been listening to Zeppelin for over 25 years. Nice work!
Steve Burnett thanks Steve!
John Smith yea I went back to the original and still don’t hear that.
It is John Bonham's beat and sound that gets you on Zepplin NOT the guitar. Bonham was the heart and feel to their music....a true genius. Once you add John Paul Jones into the mix BOY their sound & rhythm was unsurpassed. Still stands the test of time.
true that! from a guitarrist
Bonham was a lead drummer that was able to push Zep's music.
There is no Led Zeppelin without John Bonham.:(
He must have had separated mental audio pathways.
John was great so was Jones but zeppelin was guitar solos and Roberts voice that got people's ears first John's drumming at first was under appreciated people who didn't really listen only heard THUD. That being said if you were a drummerand sure John stood out right away but what got most people's attention was Roberts powerful wailing voice and jimmy's screaming guitar licks.
ARTHUR D DUDA they were good unsurpassed I don’t think so Moon and Entwhistle and the rankings prove it.
Umm FALSE!!! it takes a whole band to be a band they were all great players but it was robert plants singing that was off this planet
John Bonham was the reason I gave up drumming in the early 70's...I realized I was just a kid that could only keep a basic beat and play real loud . Now at age 68 I am buying a set of drums and getting back to it ...drumming never really leaves your system.
One of my favorite recordings of Bonham is “Achilles Last Stand”. This is one of many that I love however.
This was an impossible lesson to choose 3 grooves for. Literally every song I listened to I was like "Nope, that's the best one". May have to do a follow up lesson...
I really thought he was going to do this song the way he started talking about the more improvisational groove. Great vid either way.
The ending drums with the opening high hat is just out of this world.
Tate Davis
Yes
That's a big favorite of mine. I never get tired of listening to Achilles' Last Stand".
I've never heard any ghost notes in When The Leavee Breaks...I'm 64 and have been drumming since I was 10. Zeppelin was my first concert in 1970 and Bonham was one of my earliest influences. I've listened to and played this song a thousand times. No need to make it more than it is. IMHO,Ian Paice is The Man. Blows Bonham away in all aspects of drumming. I've seen him 6 times between 71 and 76,and theirs really no comparison. Rock On!
That's my thought also.
Apples and oranges. Both amazing.
Thanks for making the video - really enjoyed it! It's not that Bonham is late on the beat...it's that he FEELS it....he's not playing it, he's feeling all of it, and that's what makes it so special.
Took me 6 months to get fool in the rain as a new drummer. It made me better all around and there are lots of great variations of the half time shuffle. Can't wait to learn these other 2 grooves.
Nathan Hoogs Yea, the halftime shuffle is one of those that takes a while to nail but once you do it really does help a lot of areas of your playing. Just that process of working it out.
Bonham was what was honestly missing for me. I wasn’t really progressing with my drumming career, then I started listening to more zeppelin and loved it. I got so much inspiration from John. Thank you John.
Amazing drummer. Carried a sound ‘within him’ with his power - touch - groove and feel - more so than any other drummer ever has.
One of my favorit groove is "the crunge" 😙
Michael Drums oh yes, it’s so good
Fantastic
Fool in the rain, best Bonham ever.
I got it FINALLY today after 2 weeks lol
Moby dick?
@@halubeN unlike say the grateful dead moby dick was his only best and incredible one he didn't need 45 mins he was the complete package
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I grew up with John Bonham and, yes, he is the best ever ! In my opinion. I have never heard a more powerful, dominant drummer, and another great drummer who played off his bass drum, ............ loudly ! RIP John.
Noel May his bass drum...another story altogether. So good
Maybe a story for a future drum vid ? ................ : )
He didn't ALWAYS play at top volume, just for the record. A fair part of that it the huge kit itself. I have one. They're kinda like that to start with. Sounds funky bad with any other recordings, lol.
I can't play the drums. I don't want to play the drums. I could not stop watching. Brilliant video. Thanks.
Silent Pact me too! Lol
Silent Pact me too!
I feel euphoric when I listen this " Mobydick" drum solo at The Royal Albert Hall in 1970. It's like my soul can't stop listening to it. I'm hypnotized !
"For Your Life" gotta be one of my fave Zep tracks and Bonham beats
Yes! In my top 10, maybe top 5. So under-played and overlooked!
There are just so many iconic Bonham grooves.
When the Levee Breaks is probably my all-time favorite just because it's such a heavy groove with so much swagger.
I love the slamming groove of Rock'n'Roll and I also love Immigrant Song's and Wanton Song's grooves.
It's hard to pick just a few considering there were so many good ones.
Houses of the Holy. Kashmir. Black Dog.
Just too many to name them all.
I think I like Levee best because that groove is so incredibly deep and the blues harp/harmonica, which I believe Robert Plant was responsible for, is just so totally on point throughout the song as well.
Not to forget the great Robert Plant vocals.
Everything about the track is just insanely atmospheric.
Anyway. That's why it remains a long-time favorite...the relentless groove, the great blues harp playing, and the atmosphere generated.
Lots of that atmosphere was a result of the reverb and echo the track is recorded with but it's more than that.
It's those four guys just locking hard into an unmistakable groove.
I'm probably picking nits here but I would think you'd want to get much closer to Bonzo's sound by using Paiste cymbals all around, including his trademark huge 26" ride, which I think was a ping ride, and I thought he also used 12" or 13" Paiste SoundEdge hi-hats, to get that super tight hi-hat sound without some of the airlock common to other hi-hats.
And beautiful as your Tama Bubinga wood kit is, Ludwig drums were Bonzo's drums of choice.
He often played Ludwig VistaLite kits and ALWAYS used a gargantuan 26" kick drum.
And, contrary to popular belief, as fast as his right foot was, Bonzo did employ a double kick pedal occasionally to get some of the amazing kick drum sounds he got.
Anyway. I appreciated how you broke these songs down.
But a lot of what made Bonzo Bonzo was his amazing wrists and just the natural feel he put into his grooves.
And that has been difficult for drummers to duplicate or even capture because he had such an unerring sense of groove in his playing.
Difficult if not impossible to imitate, although his son Jason manages to get pretty close to dad's natural groove. :-)
Bonham always used a 24” ride. Paiste Giant beats in the early days and 2oo2’s later on. He also always used 15” sound edge hi hats.
I loved your comment but just wanted to raise one objection about Bonzo using the double kick pedal. It was very short lived during a time when they shared billing with Vanilla Fudge and he used the set-up from Carmine Appice. There's a photo of him behind a double base drum kit with a single 13" rack tom. Looked kinda goofy but nevertheless he never went back to that set-up and stuck with a single 26" base drum from then on. If you're into bootlegs there are instances where Robert Plant would introduce Bonzo 'playing the double base kick pedal' but he was just razzing on him. Good Times Bad Times and Achilles Last Stand were played using one kick pedal and there are no instances either recorded or live where he would use two. Also double kick pedals were not around during his tenure. To play double meant two separate bass drums always.
Night Flight from Physical Graffiti has a little bit of everything we love about Bonham in one 3 minute song.
The power and finesse is all right there. Never heard another rock drummer play a 24-26 inch bass drum with such subtlety. Guys like Rich & Krupa were doing it all the time in Big Band jazz. That puts Bonzo in with some great company!!
I am not a drummer, but found this very interesting! I do love Led Zeppelin and am starting to understand how great John was!
It’s crazy how even amazing drummers like yourself, still even when they try their hardest, can’t get the feel of John Bonham(with no disrespect). Of course we can play like him, but sounding like him is impossible. The Fool in the Rain isolated track still blows my mind. Great lesson
Carrotyfungus I’ve never heard a player even come close to emulating him. It’s his sound, his feel, his tuning, his power, his personality, his swagger, and then Zeppelin behind him. Just impossible to replicate. But it’s really fun trying!
Too much blabla for me on this video, sorry :(
Ghost notes, your the man! You know you’re stuff. Excellent feed. Thanks much! Big zeppelin fan
Thanks for your answer Stephen. Just for you to know more about me, I live in Portugal - Europe, I am 53 years old and drumming is a childhood dream!!!!
Because of life issues I started to play drums for about 8 years only. Never too late to start!!!
I play in a band where we play 60/70 rock, pop, blues covers like
Beatles, Queen, Eric Clapton, Pink Floyd, Cream, Jimmy Hendrix, Led
Zepellin, Doors, BB King, etc.
Where I live in my town in Portugal-Europe I don't have music schools to help me in my drumming.
About five years ago in a town near where I live, I had private drum
lessons for about 2 years with a Dutch teacher called Koen van Esch.
Great teacher by the way!!!
After that I check for vídeos on youtube. I have subscribed your channel and I have been watching your vídeos to improve and solve some problems in my drumming.
Really your vídeos are helping in many issues, especially on not giving up when things get difficult. Hope the one you say you will do will help on practicing the fast doubles on GOOD TIMES BAD TIMES. Thanks again for your help in advance!!!!! (JR-PORTUGAL)
Hey Stephen, that was hands down the very best Bonham tutorial I have ever seen, great job I really appreciate all your videos and downloads!!!
Robertino Riojas Thanks so much! More to come
You don't just hear the drums,you feel them. He was the drum God
Best breakdown I've seen yet for these pieces. Many folk make these how to's, but seem to really just want to show off that they can play them instead of truly teaching. I've been playing drums for years, but I still suck because I fake it till I make it. I've now begun to desire to actually want to learn Drums. Thanks for the great video.
Great job stating the importance of John Bonham in the drumming community! I really appreciate how you break down his drum licks and grooves on a lot of your videos. Well done!
Truthfully, I think I remember Jimmy saying they used two microphones. One mic ten feet down the hallway from the drums in the hallway and the second mic was hung down the stairwell and that's it. And they said it sounded like cannons being shot!
Right; it was Page that really honed their recorded sound. WAY more than the other 3 members. Thus his Producing credit, on EVERY record.
two m160 and a Binson Echorec. everybody skips the echorec.
Bonham was way before your time? Whippersnapper. I saw LZ in concert twice. Cheap seats, behind and to the left of the stage. Beautifully angled to see Bonham from the side with nothing in the way.
John Bonham is one of my favourite drummers and I’ve always loved learning his parts but this video blew my mind. I’ve always played When The Levee Breaks just as it sounds on the record (with another soft bass drum hit on the “e” of 1 and no ghost note before the snare hit on 2) so thanks for the breakdown of how Bonzo actually worked it with the reverb/delay tech. What an absolute legend. And you are too, Stephen. ✌️
TheFightak Thank you my friend. It’s really cool to learn about how they recorded your fav tracks. So much magic can happen in the mix.
I love the groove in “D’yer Mak’er”! Such a powerful drive!
Bonham and Jonesy were the band. JP Jones is so underrated. They were my faves
There was an actual echo effect added to the Levee drums. Yes it was recorded in a large open stairway at Headley Grange, yes they set up mics on different floors, but it wasn't JUST mic placement and natural reverb. That's urban myth/chinese whispers.
Thanks for this video! I'm a very long time Led Zeppelin fan and guitarist/bassist/keyboardist just picking up the drums after 15 years of thinking about it. Your video is at the perfect level and subject for me! I'll be sure to check out the rest of your bonzo stuff
I grew up listening to this stuff. I was 13 yo when he passed away and I still remember the day. Only recently have I begun to shuffle on a lot of his stuff. In particular, songs from Physical Graffiti. But after hearing your ghost notes I think I have to re visit some of his stuff. Thank you!
He was my first favorite drummer when I was starting out. Thank you for doing this fantastic video lesson, Stephen!
Jason Schultz He’s a beast...you’re more than welcome Jason
Love this video...
My 3 (at the moment) would be:
No Quarter
The Ocean
Immigrant Song
...ask me again tomorrow.
Lol, I'm the same way
Man, I wish this video was around when I attempted to learn this beat 5 years ago. Ended up learning by ear on some John Bonham Fool in the Rain isolated drum track
started the drums this past December and watched this video in January. Could play the first beat without all the ghost notes and barely understood the other beats. Now I got them all down pretty well
Can’t talk John without the intro for immigrants song and good times bad times.
Indeed...the immigrant song is so great on so many levels.
Totally live for Bonham in Good Times 👏 incredible drumming
Stephen Taylor great video. Stephen. What is your opinion of his son? Thanks.
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Everyone loves Bonzo! I’m still trying perfect the Wanton Song. I’m playing out of a book that may have the notation wrong I think it adds another 16th note bass note.
Personally, of course Bonham is a great candidate for greatest rock drummer and you are absolutely right, whether you listen to Bonham or not, if you play any kind of rock or listen to it, you are hearing Bonham influence. My personal picks for greatest rocks drummers, based on my taste, technical proficiency and creativity are (not in order of greatness) Vinnie Colaiuta, Gavin Harrison and Carter Beauford, honorable mention Bill Bruford.
There are so many great drummers and great music it’s over whelming. I’ve noticed most people will put other musicians in “good and bad” categories. When I hear a band even if I don’t like it, I generally think that they have a good drummer. When listening to professional music, I don’t hear bad drummers. Is that normal, is it accurate? Should I be more picky and discriminatory?
I prefer to look at it as quality vs. non-quality. I don't think you should try to be more picky...go with what your ear loves. The music is the point. But, we should all learn to recognize quality when we hear it...and that's not always a technical thing.
What's your definition of "a bad drummer?" I mean, Peart is very technical, but also holds everything very stiffly (might be why he's quitting). Apparently at the expense of feel. He took jazz with Gruber to get more of it, I'm guessing. He didn't need more technical. Meanwhile, Purdie is VERY loose. Porcaro is loose in a rock way with more advanced foot work. Bonham is generally behind the beat, but NOT lacking in feel in any way. Most studio guys sound bored. I'd prefer Karen Carpenter's enthusiasm over Hal Blaine sounding bored any day of the week. She was certainly capable of the very quiet and pretty easy drumming there. I haven't heard her make a mistake, but there is one on "For all we know." Its like a 2 set when it should be a set of three and it'll throw you if playing verbatim. You'll think you made a mistake. But Blaine made a mistake there nobody caught in a pattern that doesn't vary.
I make TONS of mistakes, being in the "awkward" teenage years, just like real kids. But nobody cares because I don't blow them out of the water volume-wise (unless they can't count, then I gotta get the cattle prod out). I don't overplay (I'm not good enough to do that, anyway). But I have a good ear and a very decent memory. I have a good pocket as a jazz sax girl told me.
This'll more than get you by if the girls are dancing...
Listen to Al Jackson Jr., Clyde Stubblefield and John, Jabo, Starks. These were all real R&B drummers. They laid down the rules that most drummers after them followed. They loved to play >just slightly< behind the beat. It gave the groove a fatter, funkier sound while keeping things moving along. Bonham cited Al White Jr. as a big influence. Keep digging back to the folks that laid the foundations for the next generations..
The genius of JOHN BONHAM. great breakdown!!
I play guitar (55 years), not drums, but just love great drummers. Bonham's feel, sound, groove and swing -holy mother of gawd!. Nobody could have done that music better. I actually got to ask Jimmy Page, while he was recording in Vancouver, in the 90's, why Levee was not in any correct Western tuning. It's in a key sightly lower than E flat, which used to piss me off when I was a young lad trying to learn how to play it by ear. And tuned correctly, by the way. He told me that they slowed the speed on the tape machine down when they mixed it. To make the drums sound bigger and lower. They also used a Binson Echorec for the delay according to Andy Johns- a primitive disc-based delay, also employed by David Gilmour, back in the day. To my ears and feel, his swing in Heartbreaker, is sublime.
Good Times , Bad Times ... Whole Lotta Love .. are my favs
Ticonderous1 both so epic
Stephen Taylor in reality brother .. almost every song he does is epic ... guy was a monster ..awesome lesson as usual .. would love you to do some grunge stuff .. Soundgarden , Alice in Chains etc .. some 7/6 , 7/8 and some 7/4 songs and breakdowns if you haven't already..
Hitting that ghost note on the snare in between the triplets on the high hat in "Fool in the Rain" is the hardest thing I've come across in all of drumming!
Jon Gaiser so hard
Glad you included the half-time shuffle on Fool in the Rain. I've never really liked the song that much, feeling it was one of Zeppelin's weaker songs, BUT ... BUT, hahaha ... I've always listened to it just for Bonham's work. That shuffle is unbelievable. So strong, so captivating, so complex! It makes the song.
Great piece. Bonham was the greatest. His son Jason carries it forward. Led Zep led the way and were masters of the rock groove. Each one equally brilliant. Bonham gets extra credit for taking the songs over the top. Great work, Mr. Taylor.
The most enjoyable Bonham groove to play for me is In My Time of Dying. Not one dull moment, other than the breaks. :)
brian96597 agree 100%
My favorite too. Plus, that slide guitar is so sweet!
Possibly the greatest drum track of all time. What made me feel a lot better as a drummer was hearing the outtakes, before he nailed the part...there is something reassuring about hearing Bonham struggle with that track.
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That slide is awesome indeed! But what gets me every time is what JPJ is playing during all that mayhem!! Have you seen the live version?....he's on a fretless !!!
Yep that and Achilles are his best imo but ImtoD is easily the most erratic and mind blowing. Achilles is great for the opposite reason.. it's just so fucking tight and solid. The rhythm section is cleaner and clearer on the early mixes included with the new remasters.
You really should have the sheet music showing when your trying to explain the final compilation of all the notes coming together. It would benefit beginners as well as seasoned experts.
Frank Burdo The sheet music is available at the link in the video description for you to follow along with if you would like to. Hope that helps!
Thanks again Steven. I have several John Bonham resources on the net for figuring out what the hell he's doing half the time and I find myself just going straight to your videos. When I follow your lead it continually opens up new pathways for me. Thanks again!
Michael Passanisi thanks Michael!
I'm a bass player and greatly appreciate the effort you've made to explain the beats to a brilliant level, thanks.
Could you do a keith moon video possibly? Ive been trying to get into his style i just dont know a good place to start.
Sam Rendon Had a lot of request for Moony...I’ll see what I can do
Thanks mate!
NO!!! Keith Moon doesn't hold a candle to John Bonham. Don't waste your time!!!
album... meaty beady big and bouncy...a perfect place to start!
Then why were Townsend and Daltrey so dependent on him? Moon had an energy and love of drumming that is very rarely matched. Listen to "Happy Jack" or "I Can See For Miles" or anything from "Who's Next". I can't imagine another drummer who could have played those pieces as well as Keith. I mean flamenco? They brought Terry Williams in after Moon died and Daltrey almost quit. He needed Moon's power to inspire him. LOADS OF TALENT! The playing has to fit the music!
One correction. There is no debating if Bonham was the greatest rock drummer. That discussion is a waste of time. He is the ALL TIME GREASTEST.
He said: Barriemore Barlow (his friend from Jethro Tull) was the greatest drummer England ever produced.
@@pjones8404 I don't think so, Led Zep members are friends of Barrie's
Absolutely. There is no discussion about that.
Great stuff. John Bonham... definitely one of my main mentors. Thanks.
Wow. Reading everyone's comments has sure brought back some memories. I was in highschool from 74 to 78. If you didn't have at least one Zepplin album you were nobody. The 50s started rock n roll. The 60s really got it going the 70s perfected it. The 80s turned to metal fukingit up my opinion. I will always belive the 70s had the greatest rock bands of all time. Arrow Smith, Ted Nuggent, Foghat, Pink Floyd,, Deep Purple, The Stones, Van Halen, ZZ Top, etc etc etc. And of course Led Zepplin. The list goes on and on. Those were the best rock bands the best rock music and the best if times. And I was right in the mist of it all.
@Robin Reese. Who the fuck is Arrow Smith??😂😂😂😂
Hey man, appreciate your video. But I just gotta say, Bonham's pattern on When the Levee Breaks is much simpler than what you have described hear. There's definitely no snare anticipation on the "e" of any beat...he's playing 100% back beat, nothing more.
My only criticism: you can't do fool in the rain without covering the Samba bit near the end. :)
It's so killer
(Diabolical chuckle...) I would LOVE for someone to show me how the Samba goes!
Your station kicks ass! Not only are you (and your guests) awesome drummers, but you are a natural at teaching. Thanks!
I wish I had this twenty years ago! Awesome breakdown of the master of masters.
John Bonham played to Jimmy page's guitar playing staying in rhythm with him instead of John Paul Jones's bass playing in a lot of songs they did
The other dude played when the levee breaks way wrong, there’s no ghost notes.
I'm pretty sure its to compensate for the echo from the recording.
I just watched... from 2016...10 Drum Fills Every Drummer Should Know - Drum Lesson (Drumeo)... your opening song and closing drum solo was incredible!
Now I find this...what... awesome!!!
Thank you for Fool in the Rain! Working with it with my teacher. You explain how important the subtleties are! Thank you
Something feels lost with the metronome.
Aaron H agreed, always does with his parts
A metronome and Bonham are indeed mutually exclusive. He's in front, then on the back. No way it can be metronomed and have any feel at all.
Agree. That's because his timing changes. It's DEFINITELY not wrong, but it sure ain't dead-on to no metronome. Sometimes there's a 5th beat on a 4 count, too.
@@StephenTaylorDrums you clearly know nothing about this matter..
Aaron H yeah. Metronomes and John Bonham, all of Led Zeppelin music for that matter, don't mix. I hate metronomes, takes the life right out of the music.
I saw them in concert in Chicago in 1976 3rd row for the song remains the same for 10 dollars
weng demesa so jealous
No you didn't. They did not play a single show in 76. The song Remains The same is a live release edited from their last three shows of the 73 tour at M.S.G. I'm going to waste my time on your ticket price.
Ten bucks?! I spent $25 on Jackson Browne that year!
I'm not a drummer but I loved watching your true love and passion for the groove. Thanks man.
Thanks for the lesson. Good to see someone sharing what they know. And I like seeing things broken down and slowed down.
Play more talk less learn more
Levee breaks is not correct.... He does not do any ghost notes on the snare. He does a double-stroke on the bass drum on 1.
this! ^^^
The amazing thing about Zeppelin was how the four of them interacted.
Very,very good great! Awesome! Thank you very much Stephen Taylor!
Jesus how much talking to get to the lesson!! Some people love to hear themselves talk.
Kaye Gillanders My lessons are not as short form as some. Use that scrub button to skip all of my talking...won’t offend me a bit ;^) And thanks for checking out the lesson Kaye!
Stephen Taylor I'm on it thanks dude x
Sorry bud, you seem like a nice guy and you know your music notation and all that but you lose me and some of what I think is the reason John was so great and that's the fact that he was a simple man with zero formal training yet he somehow has managed to influence every drummer great or not since he got recorded the first time!! I'm 51 been playing drums by ear and feel since my daddy who was an incredible jazz drummer because he was born in the 30s so he was into that before rock ever got its roll but anyway my dad always had a set of drums so I started banging around 6 or 7 yrs old so I've been playing a long time but when I start hearing that onee and a twoee crap my attention deficit takes me away to someplace safe!! So what I'm trying to say is feel the drums feel the music just like Bonham did. All the music stuff and getting it exact ain't bad to get started but own what your playing! Make sense? I hope so. Good to see young guns like yourself picking up the Bonham torch!!! Now I feel fucking old so carry on!!
Tim the gun guy I totally agree with you. We shouldn’t let the theoretical side overshadow the musical passion side. But at the same time, we shouldn’t let the musical passion scare us away from using musical tools that can help us unlock what our favorite players were doing. Again, I get it and understand where you’re coming from. But don’t be afraid of musical tools. Use them to learn better, listen, and then play the music with passion.
@@StephenTaylorDrums Oh man I get what your saying and believe me if I wasn't so screwed up when it comes to "Learning" stuff I'd love to be able to read music and comprehend all that stuff you know but I tried! I tried in elementary school with the trumpet and again later at 16 at my dads urging to get some lessons on the drums cause my Dad thought I sucked I guess but I just didn't have the patience!!! And man when it comes to school work dont get me started!! I can still to this day see the anger I evoked in my mom God rest her soul! When she tried to get me to improve with simple math flashcards!!! And I just didn't get it! The more somebody pressed me the more I shut down!! Dude that was back in the mid seventies long before they knew about all the learning disabilities! Which I had but thankfully as I matured and become a student of the world and just learning through experiences!!!! Regrets? Shit Bro my life is full of them and if I only knew then what I do now!! And I apologize if I come acrossed condescending or any shit like that cause believe me I'm not like that and I would probably give up my left nut to be able to do what you do!!! Cause even though I've been playing forever I've never made a living playing music like I wanted to! Mainly because I never believed in my abilities enough to put myself out there and risk things!! Probably goes back to my Dad always telling me what a fuck up I was!!! Its ok he had 5 other kids to treat better! Lol Nah I joke but my Dad wasn't like today's dads and hes gone now too but thankfully I had a great relationship in his later years when he wasn't always busting my balls!!! But I can fix anything build anything and know tons of shit about the Civil War and plumbing because of my dad so I wouldn't change anything!! Sorry dude went off the rails there but I admire your abilities to be a proficient drummer like you are and did not mean to downplay the service your providing to guys who can do what I can't!! I was just trying to say that Bonham was so great because he wasn't Buddy Rich or Morrello he just liked to play the drums and was a natural at it!! And that's why I like playing because half the stuff I can do.is probably the stuff I see guys do that's technical and got fancy names and I'm like wish I could do that because I dont know any better but I am doing it! Make sense? I hope so pain pills are kicking in and I shouldn't be on UA-cam answering people back when they are!!! Lol. Anyway Bud I hope we're good cause I did not mean to be rude or insult you if I did!! You seem like a damn fine player and a guy I wish I'd live close enough to so I could pick your brain and see where my abilities are after so long at just winging it!!! Peace my man and thanks for the reply!!! And to any of your technical subscribers I didnt mean to imply learning this way isn't a good thing. It's just my brain doesn't handle structure well!!! Another thing my daddy was smart enough to tell me and that's dont go in the military cause you'll never take somebody telling you what to do 24/7 and damn if he wasn't right!! Sorry I'm rambling now.
It sounds a bit clinical here I think because he's trying to just demonstrate in a clear manner what's going on. I'm self taught too - a little drums but guitar and bass mostly - and I think I'm good at what I do and I've always feared learning too much theory, technique etc. will ruin the feel of the music that I write. But then again when I see people dissect what John Paul Jones did for example it makes me really think I could expand on my melodies in a more interesting way if I had a better grasp of scales, modes, theory etc. so I'm going to try. I don't think knowledge will get in the way unless I let it.
I'm.terrified of Buddy Rich's snare book (the video is totally useless as it's explained wrong) and Carmine's book drove me up the wall.
But what scares me more are "self-taught" musicians, who are usually REALLY AWFUL players.
The best players are the church people. It's not for me, but every one of them I've played with knows their stuff. They can read and they have a great ear.
Turns out you only need the first full page in the BR book. And play stuff you like and know VERY well with that, and there's most of the battle. Drum teachers are boring AF. I've dumped several of them. Piano teachers are no better.
Take a really great idea from a really great song and notate it. Then do it 75 times and you're set. Purdie half shuffle is around on 4 recordings: Home at Last (Steely Dan), Roseanna (Porcaro) and a slower Steely Dan song. Oh! Babylon sisters about a minute in.
You can learn SS rolls from Achille's with that snare thing. The Gap Band is full of flams and straight beats. Fast, single-handed 8ths from Joe Jackson's Steppin Out from the 80's, or Help by Beatles. Look at Sharp Dressed Man. Simple beat that doesn't need any embellishments. Then you get the oddball HH thing in Everybody Wants to Rule the World. I think of it as slow 2-hand 16ths.
I think your best bet here would have been to just slow down the Zep record from YT. A metronome is pretty useless w Zep, I think. A 30.00 doorstop. (yes, you still need a physical item, tuners and SPL [db meters] are wrong from an app so don't rely on a metronome app if you ask me. I've compared them).
> "self-taught" musicians, who are usually REALLY AWFUL players. --- Sometimes. Maybe you wouldn't consider them "virtuosos" of their instruments but they're often far more interesting and creative songwriters than "properly educated" musicians. A lot of those "proper" musicians can't write an interesting song to save their life, they often wind up as session musicians.
Great idea and vid! I can talk/hear/play Bonzo all day! His playing has become the gateway to nearly every genre of music a drummer will study. His legacy is staggering. Thank you sir!
meekoloco It really is. And you’re more than welcome
Great job 'splainin' those Bonham beats. Articulating an enigma wrapped in a mystery and pulled out of a rabbit hole! Cheers!
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Michel Halifax Hey Michel...just use that scrub button at the bottom of the vid to skip my talking and get to the drumming. Thanks for checking out the lesson!
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Why for being realistic....idiot
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I'm always in the mood for Levee Breaks, just like Stairway or Ten Years Gone. There's something calming about the groove.
Incredible teaching. Bravo
Thanks for sharing these. I have never taken the time to try and break down "Fool in the Rain" before. It's a truly awesome beat.
That was very good as he explained the beats, well done Bonham was truly a composer
Thanks peter
You are an icon that motivates me to keep playing. Thank you 🙏🏻
Impressive, and not as difficult as i thought.for me im learning more by watching then listeng .none the less,those beats are still exciting and great to hear after hearing them so many times.fun and unique. When hear them i know its Bonham. Thanx
Thanks for helpful stuff!
This video was sooooo helpful!!
I usually see people do their top 3s or 5s on:
When the Levee Breaks
Fool in the Rain
The Crunge
The Ocean
Achilles Last Stand
And so on... And although I've learnt those beats from other channels... I have never seen such a detailed breakdown on Whole Lotta Love like in your video. I think it's generally over looked when analyzed but that groove is masterful. Thank you so much!!! Now I can finally start working on adding this groove to what I can play😂
And to answer your question, about my favorite groove by Bonham...
It's a tough choice among... Good Times Bad Times, Fool in the Rain, Whole Lotta Love, The Crunge, All my Love or even The Lemon Song!
Kiran Dyaanand Thanks so much for the kind words. Great list of song btw!
Man, I am so grateful that there are cats like you that show "us" how to play.
Great job. Thanks for taking the time
Awesome lesson. John Bonham's 1970 Live at the Royal Albert Hall Moby Dick solo is the reason I started playing drums about 13 years ago. My favorite Bonham performance is hard to pin down but I love Achilles Last Stand, The Ocean, Bring it On Home (especially the How the West Was Won live version), and No Quarter.
The live BBC sessions are incredible as well
Stephen Taylor Absolutely!
This video rocks!!! Thank you from France 🤘😎🤘
oh...FAVORITE... the first; Good Times Bad Times.. for the fills at the very end..heard that on the radio, got in the car and drove to the nearest Caldor's and bought it. The album was full of excellent drumming! That was a great big '3' Stephen. Excellent choices!!
Thank you so much for this video you did a really good job breaking everything down especially the shuffle thank you
Mike Mike You bet Mike...and thanks!
Great insight…thank you.
Great teaching. Thanks for sharing your precious talent with us. By the way, you are the first teacher (in my personal opinion) who explain the Bonham style in an easy-way. Thanks again for your time.👏
Fonsito Santos Hernandez So Glad it was clear
Stephen, a BIG THANK YOU for your phenomenal contribution to the Drumming community. Thank you give giving us this free lesson and rest assure the time and talent you put on these videos is not in vain. I will re-join your DBD program as soon as I finish with a training I'm currently taking on drum independence .
You bet Andres...Happy to be a part of this community. Would love to have you in the DBD program anytime you feel like jumping in ;^)
Every Bonham beat is my favorite beat!! Thanks for the great video!!
What a dilution, GORGEOUS!!!!!!
Thanks for this break down of some of Bonham's work. He truly was/is/will be the all time master of rock drumming. The breakdown of the Whole Lotta Love groove was he most eye opening for me. Gods, I'd been butchering that for years!!! Mea culpa! 😂😂
I'd really like to thank you so much for this channel Stephen. You've really inspired me to want to stay back up again with my drum studies. Every since I lost my kit during a nice years ago it felt almost like a missing limb. Thanks to your inspirational videos I'm planning on at least getting some sticks and a practice pad by year's end until my economic situation allows me to buy another kit. Hopefully I'll also be able to sign up for your lessons in the not too distant future. Until then thanks for all you give us here in UA-cam. It's greatly appreciated. 🤘👍🤘
P.S. I'm sure somewhere down in the maelstrom that is the comments section someone already pointed this out but, just in case.... I believe the phrase you were looking for is "if you haven't dived into..." And quick disclaimer, (probably should've lead with this 😜): this is meant as a helpful constructive comment not some aggro grammar nazi criticism. Stay groovy and work that Bonham swagger.
Thunor Odinson Lol, my grammar is just horrible. Always has been. My wife just can’t take it lol.
And the fact that I’ve done anything to inspire you to get back in the drumming game makes my week. thank you for letting me know that. That’s why I do what I do. Get that pad and get to work!
Hey thanks for breaking it down slow like that it really helps a lot if you're a drummer like me I'm not that good so it actually teaches me thank you
brilliant analysis of a great, great drummer.
THANK YOU!!! I finally understand the Fool in the Rain sticking!!!!