Alpha (Arceus vs YHVH) [Pokemon vs Shin Megami Tensei]
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- I was asked to make this one feel like a battle between gods - I took that concept and tried to apply it to the Pokemon and SMT universes. I may have bitten off more than I could chew trying to capture the spirit of both franchises while keeping the scale at "battle between gods". Song came out good, but maybe a little less grand than I was hoping.
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I’m rooting for Arceus (because it is a benevolent god compared to most JRPG dieties, and we’ve only ever obtained a FRAGMENT of Arceus’ power, not the true Alpha Pokémon), but I’m mentally prepared for YHVH to win.
And I don’t WANT YHVH to win, because it’s one of the most monstrous variations of that god in media.
I would root for Arceus. But for higher Power Scaling. Arceus might take the L here. I could be wrong here
@@AmazedPIKACHUyou’re right. YHVH is eight layers into Outerversal and Arceus is baseline Outerversal so the better God takes an L of massive proportions unfortunately
Actually we have no idea of the power of the true Original One Arceus, so...
@@phillemon7664 Arceus isn’t even outer, at max he’s either multi+ to low complex multi
@@Wyxillnot an argument
This is amazingly fitting.
Arceus, the Alpha of all Pokemon. YHVH, God himself in the SMT multiverse. Divinity amidst infinity. Gods and deities above all. Rivaled by none until teenagers and young adults with their own mighty monsters and powerful pals subdue them.
I'm reluctant to agree that YHVH clears this matchup, and putting aside my preference to the SMT franchise, I'd root for Arceus. I'd rather a benevolent portrayal of a creator deity to take the W over an incomprehensible despot who causes nothing but suffering and misery
Come to think of it, I'd love to see a variant of the Demi-Fiend with Arceus' blessings
While Arceus sadly loses I do imagine the ending being of YVYH facing the Original One. Seeing as how Arceus is merely an avatar of it.
Though… imagine if Arceus were to win this. Like if this matchup was on DBX. Imagine YVYH’s final moments and what Arceus would do upon taking control of possibly the multiverse of SMT.
If anything, He'll make it much, *much* better. Hell, even Lucifer might try to work with Him.
Arceus would make the SMT world a paradise. No more needless death in the name of ideology, no more imprisonment by the hand of a false God.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure YVWH is ALSO just an avatar of...I think it's called the Great Will? Both Pokemon and SMT take the same approach to the question of 'okay but how powerful is God really if you can just beat him up?'
@@iansynge7656kind of, there's like two different concepts that have similar names, also if all YHVHs are the same guy then the one you fight in smt4A was weakened/crippled after his fight with Meme Aleph.
I don't know anything about YVYH, Sooo can anyone tell what I should know about YVYH? Does YVYH stands for anything?
My brain is telling me YHVH stomps
My heart is telling me Arceus wins. Because fuck YHVH
Lol
Honestly based fuck YHVH even though he wins
Even if YHVH stomps this matchup, it would make for some killer visuals. Imagine an endless field of YHVH heads and Arceus avatars staring each other down.
God vs God, noble creator vs arrogance incarnate (SMT IV Apocalypse version anyway), a battle with all of creation at stake, and a track in that puts the audience in awe of their might.
SMT God would be incredibly awkward to be in an actual Death Battle, tbh, just from the fact that he doesn't have a name that's not awkward to put in the title of a DB.
Great Will
They could play around by censoring the name too
Every day closer to Giratina vs Beelzebub
Beelzebub vs Lucemon is what i prefer
@@deezidibbs9796wouldn't Lucifer vs Lucimon be the more fitting option?
@@louaidz1929 Oh,yeah that,sorry i originally meant Beelzemon vs Beelzebub
I guess having Arceus fight lion Jesus wasn’t enough that’s straight up GOD
How strong is Aslan?
I keep on hearing him or Celestia (My Little Pony) talked about as opponents for Arceus.
I believe that YHVH wins, but if you are willing to agree to one assumption then it is actually fairly close. The first inarguable point is that it is shown in oras's delta episode that every individual save file in pokemon is its own canon alternate universe, the second inarguable point is that it is shown in Legends Arceus that the in game pokemon Arceus is just an Avatar of the true godly being created using an arbitrarily small portion of its power. Finally, the concession is the idea that this greater godly being is the same one in each of these universes, if we agree to this being the case then true form Arceus is the omnipotent god of a theoretically infinite multiverse which would put it up there with the non Axiom big dogs of smt.
Is it really an assumption if it’s a straight up canonical fact
Pokemon transferred across save files are described as “traveling across space and time”
Wiz: Arceus the Alpha Pokémon
Boomstick: and YHVH… literally God himself
Wiz: the creators of their multiverse, beings you should pray to if you don’t want to meet your end
Boomstick: unless you can either catch it in a ball or have a team of demons. He’s Wiz and I’m Boomstick
Wiz: and it’s our job to analyze their weapons, armor and skills to find out who would win a Death Battle!
YHVH is crazy powerful he could be problematic but I want Arceus to win because SMT version of God is a twisted being who is basically “you will follow me or you will burn in Hell” he forces people to be his followers and he’s a massive asshole in 4 Apocalypse he never bothered to help when demons were on the loose
The one time that he was actually reasonable/benevolent for once was in DeSu 1
@@mrperson4542 most incarnations of YHVH in SMT are basically Old Testament God… but erase all the love he has for his creations
@@ArthurKH358.2 In most games yes, but like i said the one time his actions were understandable were in DeSu 1 where he only pushed the lockdown was to prevent a widescale demonic invasion and give humanity a chance to take care of the issue themselves.
Arceus never bothers to help, period.
@@BJGvideos it technically does… in Legends Arceus it summoned the protagonist to help the people of Hisui with their Pokémon phobia these people were so dumb they’d even freak out over a Bidoof. If it wasn’t for Arceus summoning plot armor Volo probably would’ve caused irreversible damage
*Walter used Ember!
*It doesn’t affect the opposing Tauros. (Let’s pretend Blaze Breed has Flash Fire)
*The opposing Tauros is getting pumped!
Oh yeah, that one time when God fought with God
Truly great song to make my day better and I would vote for Arceus to win as he could beat YHVH. Especially with it's ways of "understanding" that would help deny YHVH as the One True God thanks to his experience with humanity.
I can’t be the only one surprised by a Pokémon VS Shin Megami Tensei MU.
Giratina VS Beelzebub is also a thing
Why would you be surprised one clearly took inspiration from the other
Red vs The Hero(smt 1) also exists for some reason
*"Summon The Tyrants"*
Terry vs Tyrantrump vs Greymon (Dinosaur King vs Pokémon vs Digimon)
oof, wanted Arceus to win this cuz YHVH is a bastard, but that eerie sound at the end emplies that he wins
even brandon knows YHVH wins this one to include that part of the song
I'll just beat his ass in different SMT games again to vent out this frustration with a "How many times do we have to tell you this old man!" feel
Tbf, Brandon doesn't really place who he think wins into these tracks so you can imagine anyone winning really (Which is why Arceus toootallly wins!!!)
I am rooting for Arceus and I don't think I am alone in that.
Not the first matchup I would’ve liked for Arceus but the track is insane
That art looks great. As for the matchup itself, it seems cool. While I do prefer Arceus VS Aslan (or Primus), I could see this becoming a good alt.
ARCEUS V. PRIMUS would be UNIVERSE SHATTERING!
THAT TRACK ART THO
IT EXUDES GODLY AURA
Well, there goes reality, but at least it's ending with a glorious, godlike bang.
a big bang, if you will.
I was kinda hoping the track would use YHVH's theme from Shin Megami Tensei 4: Apocalypse (which the font on the track art is based off of) but I sadly can't hear it in here
Still a good track
also yeah, YHVH kinda takes it
Who else agrees this is better than Arceus VS Beerus?
Not a high bar tbh
Not a high bar yeah 😂
No competition.
Not a high bar...
-And Arceus has no mu's I like but shhh-
@@openinginawe5518 What about Primus (Transformers) or Aslan?
Ideas:
Father of Creation (Arceus Vs Odin) [Pokemon 🆚 Marvel]
Prince of Storms (Thor Vs Vergil) [Marvel 🆚 Devil May Cry]
Ultra Black (Goku Black vs Ultra Man) [Dragon Ball 🆚 DC]
The only thing it takes to even stand a chance to defeat Arceus is a freaking Shin Megami Tensei *god*. I do find that funny.
Was quite curious about how this track would turn out when I first saw it. I was expecting something very otherwordly and grand for the most part and that's mostly what the song delivers in. It manages to actually feel otherwordly and alien to represent those two god characters and it does so while having a distinct mix of SMT and Pokémon OST which is quite enjoyable.
I must emphasize that I really like how well this alien and transcending feeling is shown through the song. The song has a lot of melodies that each contrast a lot with each other all happening at once which creates a sense of chaos and incomprehension that make this "being above your comprehension" feeling very prevalent but it also still feels distinctly organized with a relatively soft general intensity and recognizable melodies nonetheless that still get across how those two are above comprehension, yes, but they're still *the* God of their respective universes who's created everything and who rules over it.
However, and reading the description pretty much confirmed that for me, I do feel like the song, while it perfectly grasps that alien and transcending feeling as said before, does run a bit short in terms of feeling purely grand and, well, godly. Weirdly enough, it almost feels upbeat for the most part due to the speed and tone of some of the melodies (mainly the Pokémon side of things which is meshed really well into the song but adds a layer of speed and energy that makes the song feel a bit too joyful for the matchup in my opinion) and at no point in the song am I truly subjugated by scale and power as I should be from a song involving two supreme abstract gods fighting one another. The second half of the song starting at 2:10 does start to scratch that itch and there's bits of it scattered all across it in general but it never fully capitalizes on it which is a bit of a bummer because there's a lot of potential in there.
Which is also why the second half of the song mentioned earlier is my favorite part of the song because it's the one that comes closest to this, especially during the couple of breaks it has where it actually feels like it's building up to something grand and overwhelming but it never truly comes which is a bummer. Even up to the end after 3:25 it kinda feels like the song is just "missing" one last absolutely grandiose and orchestral segment due to how paradoxically calm the ending is. It isn't an ending befitting of a supreme god striking down another in my opinion as it isn't nearly impactful or powerful enough.
Overall as said before I do generally really like the song. It sounds extremely unique, meshes both franchises' OST really well and has the premise of an absolutely fantastic track. But it does fail a bit at fully exploiting that potential. It's far from bad and I most definitely enjoy it still for its positives that do outweigh the negatives. Amazing job with this as always.
YHVH is literally God himself. Arceus is in big trouble.
I thought Arceus is god, in his universe of course
Arceus is also a god. He made the pokemon universe in it's entirety, and we can only capture an avatar of them, and not the actual one
@@WolfyPlays07Not so much that we can't
Just that we haven't *yet*.
Heck in Ultra, a lowly human took its place
Outerversal SMT go brrrrr.
Ok this track looks so cool
Dang. I requested this on Death Battle a few times, ao it's awesome to see a theme for it. Thanks!
Yeah, you might wanna thank the commissioner personally. 😂
Dang that art looks cool and the track slaps as well. Definitely fits a battle of gods. Well done brandon and Dek 👏
A very melodious track, quite fitting for such entities in my humble opinion.
It really feels like two creator gods going at it.
Holy Stigmata goes BRRR [ツ]
An Arceus and an SMT theme all in one? Oh this is a treat
My favorite RPG of my childhood and my favorihe RPG of today combined. Just sad that Arceus gets more than just rejected by YHVH
Godly as these two are
Good lord Llama is absolutely on the menu tonight
YHVH thinks, Arceus dies.
Battle of the Gods.
YHVH vs. Yggdrasil from Digimon would be a better matchup ngl
While it isn’t my preferred for Arceus, I absolutely agree.
I just question how either could kill the other.
While Arceus has an avatar through which it interacts with reality, the suggestion seems to be that the true form either exists in a different dimension entirely, or is straight up a paradoxical being of a singular consciousness with infinite physical multitudes.
Meanwhile the only way YHVH dies is if people capable of perception can interpret him into a destructible form, which fellow SMT gods/demons/angels didn't seem capable of. Would Arceus be different, or would he require a human trainer to accomplish that?
We have no canonical way of answering that question. We don't even know what True Arceus looks like.
Look cool for a Vocal track with Logan Adams
I love the art
Its closer than what people tink but arceus going to die bad either way
Strangely upbeat for Arceus at least
The commissioner asked for this track to have a "battle between gods" feel.
I love Pokémon
I'm honestly curious about how a fight like this would go about.
“Satan, what is one of my children doing on the ark?”
“Thou should knowest best. I am not one of your “children” for I am creation itself”
“Master, I did not see him board. One second he wasn’t here the next he was”
“Oh so this child can instantaneously travel”
“I am not a child!”
Arceus uses “hyper beam”
It was not very effective
YHVH just floats there motionless
Arceus used “Parish Song” but YHVH is unaffected
“Insolent child! You think God a mortal?!” YHVH says while floating in the same spot
“Thou doesn’t quite understand who thou speaks with. Allow Arceus your lord to make it perfectly clear!”
Arceus used Judgment (which sends a large barrage of light beams straight towards YHVH, a massive explosion occurs leaving a motionless golden head underneath) it was not very effective…
“If you must disobey your father. Then so be it.”
MOUTH OF GOD
Arceus (Avatar) is dead
In Arceus place appears another Arceus and then another until the whole room is full of Arceus.
“What’s the meaning of this foolishness!” said YHVH in confusion
All Arceus (Avatars) use Judgement (with different plates attached) it’s Super Effective!
YHVH is baffled, they managed to scratch a head, without the power of understanding at that.
“ENOUGH!”
Tarukaja
Tarukaja
Megidolaon
All Arceus (Avatar) just died
A loud disembodied voice rings in the head of YHVH
“You shall see what grave mistake you hath maketh”
YHVH pops out of physical reality and is now in a void where a single monstrous light is visible
“This is what you mess with. Do you understand?”
“I see… so it’s inferior to the Will of the Universe”
YHVH then summons a massive black door behind him and he then proceeds to float backwards into it, dragging the infinite light in there with him.
“WAIT WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!?!”
“You shall feel the disappointment your father feels for you, you have suffered freedom for far too long.”
The light then faces the YHVH head seen earlier in a black void similar to that of Arceus’ domain.
“But this is identical to my own domain.”
“Say again?”
Arceus is dumbfounded as an infinite sea of YHVH heads reveal themselves, in a cascade of lights unknowable by even Arceus the creator.
“I’ll end it thus!”
Megiddo Cannon
“WHHHAAAAT!? AAAAAAAAH!!”
The light is nowhere to be found and an infinite array of heads are dispatched to take control of the now virgin Pokemon multiverse (YHVH and Arceus exist outside of time so YHVH usurping Arceus created a blank slate for YHVH to control)
YHVH WINS!
Well sad for arceus@@phillemon7664
honestly Alpha is a banger track name for this matchup
shows that these two are just plain and simply the top dog of their verses, nothing more needs to be said.
What a worthy opponent for Chie Satonaka?
Mako Makansho?
She's as strong as YHVH according to VS Battles, so I guess that'd be a fair fight.
@@SeiyaTempestshe’s not but she is powerful
Nice job as always Brandon😁 question What does YHVS stand for?🙂
Considering that this is literally an avatar of God in SMT most likely means Yahweh or Jehovah
God. The God from the Bible,. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton. Shin Megami Tensei uses a lot of figures from religions and mythologies from lots of different countries and moments of history
Yahweh. Literally the Abrahamic God
Yahweh
the Hebrew word for God
Yod He Vau He which is a play on Jehovah from real life’s name being abbreviated as JHVH due to the Hebrew character Jod He Vau He. Yahweh was the name of the Semitic storm god but was eventually converted to the sole God and is usually abbreviated as YHWH instead signifying a purification of ascension since is the father and was given many names JHVH, Elohim and Yahweh being a few of them. The blending of the names YHWH and JHVH signifies that this is a demented and corrupted version of the already wrathful Yahweh that sees itself as the One True God when it really isn’t. He is really really strong so it takes a special person to defy him
Good fucking luck Arceus
*Wizard:* Arceus, the Alpha Pokémon.
*Boomstick:* (record scratch), the- (gets slapped by Wizard) Ow! What the f- Uuuhhhh… I mean Yod, the God of Abraham.
*Wizard:* Thou shalt not speak the name of God in vain, Boomstick. Anyways, in all religions, there exists a pantheon of almighty deities.
*Boomstick:* But even they are infinitesimally below the big man upstairs. In the end, there’s only one God. And who will it be? He’s Wiz and I’m Boomstick.
*Wizard:* And it’s our job to analyze their weapons, armor, and skills to find out who could win a DEATH BATTLE!
Now we're gonna need Satan (SMT) Vs The Spectre (Dc comics)
Calls its something like "Heretic's Bane"
Arceus might lose to YHVH, but I'd like to imagine that DB will pull a Discord vs Bill and have YHVH's win be a phyrric victory. Arceus might have lost but it won't let a twisted deity like YHVH walk away clean
I’m less inclined to say this is a was with a. The arceus we see is a avatar with a small fraction of his power and b. YHVH kinda gets killed quite a few times in smt, aleph kills him in smt2 with no addition stuff besides his mom( the female party member you go through the game with is revealed to be your mom and that’s not even the biggest reveal in the cutscene that info is dropped in) and his demons in the neutral ending he doesn’t have satan or Lucifer in his party, he dies in smt4A and in smtV he his killed and absorbed by Lucifer
So do I think YHVH wins yes but not easily
R.I.P. Arceus
Sackboy FTW
*"Indomitable Savannah*
IndoRaptor vs Simba
(Jurassic World vs The Lion King)
This one is probably an Stomp for IndoRaptor, but ok
Do godzilla vs tyranitar
Superboy-Prime vs Mazinger Zero
Hatedom
Arceus: Take the small ones to safety. THIS ONE must be disciplined...
Gaston: But I'm a--
Machamp![shuts his mouth and keeps evacuating two at a time]
Arceus: I shall follow your lead, STEPHEN...
*_"Yours, O Lord,_** is the greatness and the power and the glory and the victory and the majesty, for **_all that is in the heavens and in the earth is yours._** Yours is the kingdom, O Lord, and you are exalted as **_head above all."_* - 1 Chronicles 29:11.
I've seen a lot of people claim YHVH wins, and... maybe? I'm not too familiar about SMT scaling. But I _do_ know that the Pokemon multiverse's cosmological size and reach is actually a lot bigger than most people seem to know (infinite universes, those universes grow infinitely, as well as several dimensions reaching above and below the human characters' viewpoints), and Arceus readily scales to that for Outerversal+ at lower minimum. The horse/llama-like form is indeed just an avatar form for interacting with mortals (he even tells the player in _Legends: Arceus_ that his battle there was more of a "congrats kid, you impressed me" thing than anything else), and his true form passively exists in and across all things. So, yeah, I can't be 100% on betting, but I gladly root for the Original One as the truer loving version of the Creator deity of deities.
As much as I find this matchup so boring (I don't hate it, but I just don't care about it), the song itself was pretty cool.
I love Arceus more, but YHVH stomps hard.
That's a DEAD Arceus
Ayup
Very, very dead
?
Dawg Arceus blinks and he dead
@@Evachuber If SMT has debatable MU's against DC Heralds... Pokémon doesn't have a chance.
Hmmm this is interesting. I think YHVH might have the edge but from what we know from legends it's heavily (Or just confirmed) that the Arceus we all know is just an avatar and the true thing is closer to what people see as a creator capital G God. So true Arceus might be the stronger being here. And YHVH only win due to Arceus being use for the battle being a avatar.
Make a song about nemesis vs giratina from Pokemon
Master Ball Time
There's really only two ways to look at this, one is an Arceus fragment AKA, what we use in game, to which Goat dies instantly. Or, God (hehe) forbid the amalgamation of Pokémon games sold PERIOD, to get a rough estimate of his actual strength, as all cartridges (at least from gen 4 onwards, though even that's debateable) are heavily implied to be alternate universes, which Arceus uses fragments of himself to watch over and intervinne.
If we go with the latter, then you're calculting all copies that were sold of: Di Pe Pl, HG SS, B W, B2 W2, X and Y, Or As, S M, US UM, BP SP, LA, and S and V. And those are just the games that He's usable in, it could be debated that SwSh, the Let's go series, and good lord the mobile games can add to this. You can easily say that the anime and the split timelines of the movies are canon to Arceus' strength if you're truly insane enough. Hell, maybe he could exist in the games BEFORE HE WAS EVEN IDEALIZED AS A CONCEPT BY GAME FREAK!!
To put it bluntly: there's a real fight here. A really scary, insane, confusing as hell, fight here.
That’s what I’m saying, Arceus’ true god form has never been fought and every new instance of him has been a fragment. We only meet him in the beginning of LA. YHVH has been reduced and defeated twice in mainline games. I think Arceus absolutely has an argument here
@@WhoisthisguyNNot only hasn't been fought but hasn't even been depicted. Is it the spot of light it uses to communicate with us in PLA or is that another representation?
Then there's Conquest (where the plot revolves around Arceus) and Ranger 3, and uh...one of the Mystery Dungeon games but I forget which one. It got turned to stone in that one though.
Both of my favourite games in one. And uh yeah arceus is cooked even if we use certain lore from Legends to even it out the gap is still too massive
Guadon vs MugenDramon
Gaioga vs MetalseaDramon（Pokemon vs Digimon）
Arceus stands no chance
I would rather see Arceus Vs Primus I think it is a better matchup IMO
Would Yggdrasil (Digimon) vs YHVH also work? Both of them are considered Demiurges compared to the real christian god which is Arceus.
Oh that's not fair arceus that's like pitting him against aslan he's coocked yhvh kills arceus dies before he was born.
hope for the lyrics 🤞🙏🥺
Whilst i know more about Pokémon than SMT im sure that YHVW takes the win since They are just "bigger" than Arceus and have less scruples
Arceus doesn't have many scruples either just saying
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2. Masih Di Hero Time (Boboiboy vs. Ben 10) [Monsta vs. Man Of Action]
3. Thug Rubling (Thug Life Gohan vs. Eren The Rizzler) [SSJ9K vs. King Soda]
4. Blanco El Negro (Thug Life Gohan vs. Gohan Blanco) [SS9K vs. Lythero]
At the very least, Arceus really helped in creating/designing a universe. YHVH? In SMT, he’s just an overpowered tyrant tulpa.
Yh who
YHVH is the true name of the Judeo-Christian God, in SMT he's basically the biggest villian and one of the absolute strongest in an already stupid powerful verse. Arceus is cooked.
AMV Plan
Beerus & Darkseid (Dragon Ball & DC Comics) - Alpha (Brandon Yates) (Full Version)
Tagline: "God Of Destruction Is Battling A Ruler Of Apokolips With Arceus VS YHVH's Commission Track."
Beerus VS Darkseid (Dragon Ball VS DC Comics) | Alpha AMV
Cast
Lord Beerus: Jason Douglas/Kōichi Yamadera
Uxas/Darkseid: Michael Ironside/Ray Porter
Destruction On Apokolips (Beerus VS Darkseid) [Dragon Ball VS DC Comics]
Hitotsubashi Group VS Warner Bros. Discovery
Anime/Manga VS Comic Book
RIP Akira Toriyama
Lord Beerus & Dragon Ball Was Owned By Akira Toriyama
Uxas/Darkseid Was Owned By DC Comics
Can a person who hasnt played shin megami tensai, can someone explain to me what yhvh is and why everyone think it pubstomps arceus?
Also would this fight be against arceus's avatar or his "true" form, the one you apparently cant comprehend
YHVH is the final boss for most SMT games. SMT is a franchise where you collect demons and gods from myth and religions like pokemon and fight them
YHVH is literally the Abrahamic God. The let there be light guy. Creator of the universe and a multiversal Foe.
@@silentnight6810 ok that's pretty cool, but what about the other side of my question? Which is stronger I guess
@@regilad_9043Raidou from SMT vs. John Constantine from DC is DEBATABLE. That ALONE means that YHVH stomps.
@Annihilate0405 I don't know literally anything about those characters, also those characters aren't yhvh and arceus so no it dosent, 2 characters can be from the same series and not be scalable to eachother
@@regilad_9043 YHVH is GOD of the SMT verse. A verse that has debatable MU's with DC HERALDS. Pokémon doesn't have ANYTHING like that.
Night Fighter II! (Chun-Li VS Felicia)
Distressed Pink! (Peach VS Amy)
Chara vs Nanashi (Undertale vs SMT)
Chara is essentially completely unusable in the context of a versus match. The information we have on them is so vague and possibly not even literal that it's pretty much impossible to gauge a proper power set for them
@@eldricshadowchaser5454 I know, just make the theme
Idk, i think arceus got this- cuz what we see in the games its just the phisicall avatar to be seen by the humans
SMT go brr. Arceus gets stomped.
Quite the same case with YHVH
Arceus vs Aslan is much better no offense 😌
Haha Pokémon vs Lions
Haha dad battle
Yakko, Wakko and Dot
🆚.
Doranjo, Tonzura & Boyacky
Cuphead Mugman and
Ms. Chalice
🆚.
Princess Devilotte, Dave & Xavier
Planet Dolan Crew
🆚.
Carmen SanDiego & her
VILE Henchmen
Mr. Furious, The Shoveler,
Blue Raja,
The Bowler, The Spleen,
Invisible Boy and
The Sphinx a.k.a. The Mystery Men with The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
(Allan Quatermain, Captain Nemo,
Dr. Mina Harker, Rodney Skinner,
Dorian Grey, Tom Sawyer and
Dr. Henry Jekyll / Mr. Edward Hyde)
🆚.
Suguru Kamoshida, Ichiryusai Madarame, Junya Kaneshiro, Wakaba Isshiki,
Kunikazu Okumura, Sae Niijima &
Masayoshi Shido from the Persona 5 series with DV8 - (Threshold, Bliss, Copycat, Frostbite, Sublime, Powerhaus & Evo)
JESUS CHRIST
Think bigger
As a Catholic Christian..?
Huh.. well that's strange even tho im insane over by Arceus..?
Oh wait a minute it's a game never mind 😅
Here's a better one what about Alastro Vs Back hat Hazben hotel vs Villainous soundtrack
This is the most lopsided stomp I’ve seen
Bro literally everybody in Smt onetaps Arceus
A
*Set Your Power Ablaze!*
Rengoku vs. Lemillion
(Demon Slayer / My Hero Academia)
*Scarlet Aggro*
Reyn vs. Lent Marslink
(Xenoblade Chronicles / Atelier Ryza)
*Rings Of Shadows*
Ra's Al Ghul vs. Mandarin
(DC / Marvel)
*Hallows Of The Sea*
Harry Potter vs. Percy Jackson
*Frozen Layers*
Shrek and Donkey vs. Manny and Sid
(Shrek / Ice Age)
i mean this sounds great but it doesn't sound "etherial" or "epic" enough to be a YHVH theme.
Idk anything about YHVH, but I know Arceus pretty well. I know he made Pokemon's infinite Multiverse, and his weakened Avatar that was missing 5 life plates one shot Dialga, and proceeded to beat up Palkia and Giratina at the same time, and won. Those 3 being able to rewrite the entire Infinite Multiverse to the point of being able to remove Concepts such as Strife, which was Cyrus's plan in Gen 4, so currently I give it to Arceus. But that's largely due to not knowing his opponent at all
simply put shin megami tensai scaling is fucking BUSTED and one of the most powerful verses in at least video game history, arceus genuinely doesn't stand a chance.
Tbf, not sure if that feat works since game and anime aren’t the same canon, though, not that it would matter since he should upscale them anyways since he created them
Okay so YHVH is (more or less) the actual Christian god. Take from that what you will because power-scaling Shin Megami Tensei is a fucking nightmare.
@@donellnorman9158 well, you can easily just say they're different Universes. Especially since Ash appeared in Masters
@@PriestOfTheHelix idk much about how powerful Christian God is. I know he's not a perfect being, such as when he flooded the world because he got angry, but after that, idk how strong he is
This track is great music. Its the pokemon theme but smt'ed.
It is so good
Arceus dies.
-Also think Arceus is kinda lame on vs and so are all of it's mu's but that’s probably me-
I SEVERELY doubt either have an edge over the other
I don't care how powerful Arceus is in Pokémon lore he can get defeated and caught by a 10 year kid who just started they're Pokémon journey yesterday
And YHVH can be punched in the face by a bunch of angry teens.
(D/P/PL): Optional event that does not affect the story in any way, making it 𝗡𝗢𝗡-𝗖𝗔𝗡𝗢𝗡
(Legends): joins your team of his own free will
@dannyequihua2154
you mean a Arceus fragment, right?
@@chongwillson972 the ball beats everything
@@dannyequihua2154We've never seen True Arceus
Finally an Arceus matchup
I unfortunately do not like this track though imo
Too bad it's one where he gets stomped.
Therewolf Media also had an Arceus Matchup Track before this existed
@@Azurenere I... don't really care about the results tbh just don't really the track
It just doesn't sound that godly when two god like entities are fighting and it sounds like it's constantly repeating on 2 parts of the track over and over again
@@AmazedPIKACHU what was it?
@@Ego-Fiendif you want an awful track that constantly repeats the same beat checkout Bowser vs Eggman, reall disliked how it had the same bea on loop with no change whatsoever
Arceus is Death
Critical productions (Schaffrillas productions 🆚 Critical drinker)
Arceus VS YHVH
God. Just. God.
Arceus
Strength: A formless being that embodies the entire Pokémon multiverse, which is infinite and contains multiple dimensions within it. The universe expands as its consciousness expands. It is incomprehensibly powerful and large. Making it Low Complex Multiversal at a minimum. Even it's avatars reach this level.
Speed: Irrelevant. It is literally everything everywhere all at the same time.
Hax: Conceptual existence, resistance to conceptual erasure, Transduality, completely unrestricted by the boundaries of the multiverse because it is the boundaries. It is imminent. It has complete control over soul, mind, normalcy, fighting spirit, and more. Power Nullification. Beyond-Dimensional Existence. Subjective Reality. Invulnerability.
Abilities: ALL Pokémon abilities, moves, etc. If a Pokémon can do it. He can.
YHVH, The One True God
Strength: Completely beyond the SMT cosmology. Views it as infinitesimal. SMT cosmology is really really fucking big. Infinitely large, infinite universes, dimensions, etc. Making it Outerversal.
Speed: Irrelevant. It is all.
Hax: Matter, mind, magic, law, conceptual, fate, life, death, information, manipulation. Existence Erasure. Powerful nullification. Etc. etc. etc.
Abilities: Just about everything under the book
So at first this seems pretty cut and dry right? Arceus and YHVH are both completely beyond their reality but SMT has a bigger reality, so GG right?
Well… no. Power Nullification wise, YHVH can only really make incorporeal beings made entirely of information corporeal. And while he can erase beings from existence and completely decimate concepts Arceus has resisted those kinds of manips.
Honestly. Neither of them are at all different beings. Like. They are one and the same. It's almost impossible for either to do anything to each other. They just kinda… exist.
This is pretty much just a stalemate. Neither of them can erase the other. Both just kinda exist. YHVH exists in a higher plane, but it doesn't change the fact that strength and haxs are completely irrelevant against Arceus and YHVH.
Eternal stalemate, pretty much.
That’s a pretty surface level analysis of their abilities, especially YHVH’s. Arceus isn’t capable of *everything* just because he created the Pokémon multiverse; there’s a significantly wider array of hax present in SMT than in Pokémon, they operate on more than an infinitely higher scale, and multiple are capable of bypassing resistances, regeneration, and resurrection. Arceus wouldn’t be able to defend for long. Additionally, under YHVH’s rule of Observation, all gods other than him are stripped of most of their powers. YHVH has several answers to Arceus requiring minimal effort from his part. Arceus is infinitesimal in comparison.
Arceus is not a mental construct formed from humanity’s collective consciousness. Doubt Observation would work on him considering Pokemon metaphysics are very different.
And SMT YHVH is just a Demiurge born from human faith.
Arceus wins by having a much more epic origin, even if He loses the fight.
@@pablotomasllodra4423 Only humans can manually use Observation, but YHVH makes Observation applicable to other gods. It wasn’t in place until he took the throne. As soon as YHVH attaches that Observable sticker to Arceus, humanity’s lackluster perception of him is going to greatly weaken his capabilities.
@@agentglowstick8704 How come a Weezing is capable of doing something Arceus can't when Arceus is the main power source of the Pokémon cosmology via it's plates?
Where are you getting ANY of those stats for Arceus? It's never once been stated to be capable of ANY of that.