DO NOT Buy These 5 Mercedes Benz Luxury Cars!
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
- DO NOT Buy These 5 Mercedes Benz Luxury Cars!
Mercedes Benz is normally an amazing luxury car brand that's known for style, power, reliability, and luxury in most of their cars. There are some real issues though with these 5 worst Mercedes Benz luxury cars. You'll find some seriously unreliable cars, and a lot of talk about rust.
There are just certain #Mercedes #Benz #cars to avoid because of #reliability, and these are the ones I think you should watch out for.
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Best Mercedes to buy
W123
W124
W202
W203
W204
W210
W211
W201
Thanks
@@ECPP you are welcome
@@ECPP does this include the newer s560 or gl550 2019-2020
I don’t agree with the 210
And you forgot the W116,W126 and W140
W202 is listed as one of the 5 worst !
Had a W202 C200 I imported to Nigeria from Germany. I never had any issues with it, it was my first car and I sold it to my trusted friend about 15 years ago, he still owns it and it still runs like a dream.
Well You Was Very Lucky
Because the ones made in Germany are better made in quality then the ones given in America !! It’s a known fact!!
German cars like to be driven. It sounds like your friend is taking care of his baby.
@@dariusbrown8901 Or a very decent driver
@@cristimanea6673 he said Nigeria 😂 nobody drives wit “decent”
Had a 2000 V8, that I bought new. I kept it for 18 years. Tires/brakes, not much else for my many years of trouble free driving. Loved it.
That's it! One careful owner, that's how they and other brands last, no brainer
I still own an r350 cdi and its great. Almost 600k km and still going strong. No rust, very few problems for the amount of time it was used and generally a great luxurious car.
Yeah, mine has 2 million klm, and goes perfect 👌
@@DavidMartinez-cq1fq 😂😂😂😂
With 256,000 miles on my 1998 C230 Sport, non-Kompressor, my only regret is not getting the optional passenger power seat. I never thought I would own it for 23 years. Repairs, tires, belts, hoses, and maintenance cost around $600 a year, give or take. I got 13 years out of the original battery, and 10 years out of the second. It's a California car, still looks great, no rust, I treated the paint with a ceramic coating, and I perform all of the required maintenance on it. I'm told by my independent Mercedes mechanic that it's the last of the "forever" Mercedes, whatever that means.
It all depends on the handling. Once you buy, always read the operator manuals and adhere to instructions to safeguard from small problems that become worse with time.
We have owned two Mercedes-Benz W163s. The first was a 1999 ML320. The second was a 2002 ML500. The 1999 model did have power lock issues and the heater didn't work on the passenger side. Otherwise, the vehicle was reliable, fuel efficient and comfortable. We drove the 2002 ML500 about 133,000 trouble-free miles. We owned a 2008 ML320CDI and drove it about 133,000 reliable and fuel efficient miles. If we hadn't suffered extensive hail damage, we would have continued to enjoy the vehicle. We still own and enjoy our 2008 GL320CDI. It has delivered 187,000 trouble-free and comfortable miles. It is comfortable for long drives and delivers excellent fuel economy.
I had many of those models and never had any of those problems .
Same
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Did you have them when they were less than 10 years old?
Yea I bet you did, as in you leased them, had them for three years, and now are surprised why they didn't fall apart in front of you in the few years you had them
agree with you
I currently own two of the cars on you list. S500, and R500. I have had minimal issues over the years. The S500 did require suspension around 100K miles. No transmission problems, no rust and it is now 18 years old 190k miles. The R500 I replaced the air suspension around 70k miles. Other than the two batteries, no other problems. I live in Southern California, maybe that's why I dont deal with the rust.
Finally someone positive on (S500)..they buy cheap abused cars and come here to rant..take care of your car..and you will be happy..
I love my w220 500 and I dont have no rust
I've got a 03 s500 it does need suspension work still smooth tho. It's got 170 on it. Has rust and needs a tie rod but I think it's pretty great so far
I still own a 2003 W163 ML500. Owned it since 2008. 232k miles and counting. It does have rust. The car radio and a few oil cooler line leaks but, never anything major. I’ll never sell it.
Use it to pull my boat. Easy to work on yourself easy to find parts and inexpensive to repair....Love the ML500!
I’ve had my R350 for 3 years and only had one problem with the air suspension. I love it. It’s unique and I don’t really mind having a car that doesn’t look like everything else on the road.
I driven a R 500 the ride was unforgettable. Unfortunately it had too many miles, I still think about buying one. All Mercedes that have the Airmatic ride will fail at some point. So that's a common problem
Replace them with coilovers , u wont need to worried bout the issues anymore , ride a little stiffed tho
@@itzjdub282 bb
For a reason, MB is taxi's almost all over the world. I own my MB nr:5 ( G-wagon, C-class, E-class, E-class, CLA), and today I have the CLA. Just follow the service-program, and take care of your car whatever brand it is. Best cars I ever have owned, with ZERO issues.
I agree with you . I owned many Mercedes and now own three SL Mercedes. Two R129s (95-96) and an R107(82) . I haven't had any real issues with any of them . I like this class and have stayed with it . I also like the E class .
The Mercedes was really engineered for the cold climates in Germany.
Same thing with my old W210 and W220.Top quality cars if well maintenanced,and cheap to own.
What about the paint peeling off? A four year old car ? C’m on. We are talking about Mercedes. An excessively over priced car.
W202 C-Class are actually epic in reliability and durability. My 1999 C230K is fast, rust-free and going strong with over 253,000 miles on the original drivetrain. Sure, little things have been problematic, but after 10 years of ownership, I would not hesitate to drive cross-country tomorrow.
My words exactly.
Oh I own a 1993 C180 automatic and the car is really great! It's fast, reliable, easy to drive - great car! These cars shouldn't be in this list.
My 1997 C230 has only 130k miles and is a gem. It looks exactly like the C280 in the video. When I hit the gas pedal the car takes off really fast. In fact it seems to have more power than my 2007 ML350. Other than the headliner and A/C blower motor which has to be to replaced, it has only required regular maintenance stuff like replace tires, battery, and tune-ups. I often get offers to sell my C230 because the interior and exterior is so clean.
Thank you. I love my 99 kompressor
Dude… I would give anything for that car again. My favorite car from the Benz.
I've had a 2007 X164 GL450 for 13 years. Purchased Certified Preowned (CPO). It now has 240,000 miles on it. I've dealt with many of the issues you've discussed, but even when I add up all of the repair costs, it's been a cheap vehicle to keep over the long haul. I still use it to haul 2 boats that weigh over 5000 pounds. My wife and I use if for very long haul trips. It's never left me stuck on the side of the road. If you stay on top of them, they last forever.
It’s my baby. Same year. Mine is still running strong.
I’ve had two c280, one e320, two e350 4matics. They were all SPECTACULAR vehicles!
How do you remove the back seat ofa2013 e 350 Mercedes Benz
Me too, but mine was the right hand drive version. Awesome car, and I miss it for its power, and reliability + none of the typical rusting.
I got my 2008 Merc Benz at 33km had an amazing run.
Only thing on mine the tail light circuit boards burnt out on both sides.
I just spent $1000 on brakes after 3 years.
Just normal basic things like brakes and tires.
Amazing vechicle cheap to run.
Yep
My C class 2009 model broke the timing pulley.
Had to dig a hole.
I got a 2011 E class wagon, and literally drove it through an 8 hour snow storm from Chicago to Michigan. On the other hand, had to fully replace the air intake manifold, but at 120,000 miles something is bound to need replacing. Plus I could do it myself, these cars arent hard to work on(im not a mechanic).
I was literally on the way to take my 2008 GL450 to the Mercedes-Benz shop for the third time this month as I was watching your video and you are absolutely correct if it's not one thing it's another
@tyree Ingram I feel your frustration... but hope your third visit breaks that trend and you get to enjoy the Big-G for an uninterrupted 12 month period at least :-)
I have W204, pre-restyling, diesel engine, 5 speed automatic transmission and it is reliable car. It is best C-class ever in my opinion. Had it for two years with no single issue.
I love the 2005 ML350 and 500 sports edition. No problems so far .
I think the C class W202 was a very good car quality wise. 10 times more robust and better finished than the BMW E36 of the same period.
True
C-Class is one of the best Mercedes Cars out there! Very family friendly!
@@TheRepublican254 True
Mine keeps on running, has surprising performance for a straight 4, and I've had no complaints with 255,000 miles. Sure, I've spent money on maintenance, but nothing serious, or out of the ordinary.
I have not had E36, but had E21, E28 and was quite happy with them. While the BMW were well built, but no where close to my W124 and W202
I have that ML320 4MATIC V6 and my friend as at the time bought a BMW X5 V8, whenever we are traveling his car always had an issue with too many problems, he had since sold that X5 as wayback at 2010, mine is still there rocky, look, No car is as durable, rugged and classic as Mercedes Benz in any brand, I guess you're sponsor to do this damage to Mercedes Benz but for us that use Mercedes Benz, is the best in the world
Here in Oz with an ML320, clocked 250k with only a set of glow plugs and a relay. Plus a
couple sets brake pads. Very dependable.
190e was a wonderful, solid Merc that's now achieving classic status & of course had a model breathed upon by Cosworth.
The 190e was an awesome underrated sleeper hotrod
the greatest carmaker on earth
I like how you show a current gen C class that most people drive, but the video is about 20 year old Benzes that nobody drives anymore. Of course their going to have problems their all 5-6 owner 100k+ miles.
I still drive my 2001 ML. plenty of people drive older models.
Aside from the R-class, these cars are old AF! If they can survive this long, then I say it's reliable.
Agree most of these cars are VERY old anyway.I would not buy a car older than say 10 years even on a “bargain”.
Reliability has nothing to do with how long a cars survives.If you're spending enough money on repairs you can make a unreliable car last until you get tired of it or go broke.
Toyota/Lexus outlast your life. LOL
Nope. The list is very correct, it's just missing W210 E-class that would deserve its shameful position on this list. 20 years ago it was abad mistake for an owner of still fresh W124 to trade such magnificent car to crap like W210. None of these are worth the star.
Interesting video - But note that none of these 5 cars reviewed are even remotely near the current range. I own a 2017 (current shape) AMG E43 which is simply sensational. The build quality, ride, torque, power, tech and comfort levels are beyond the BMW's, Land Rover and Jaguar I have owned in the last 20 years. Mercedes is clearly back and a very strong luxury competitor again.
I had a w202 and it was okay, had issues with the MAF and throttle body as well as the depicted rusting issues but it was an alright car nonetheless! Always got me home! Now I have a w211 E350 and it’s treating me quite well
@onestopshopsloptherop6129 what year do you have? Is it 4matic? Thanks
@@GodsImage1223 my w211 is a 4matic 2008 187k miles on it!
Never have seen a W220 in Germany with so much rust. All ML exported to Europe were comletely new build in Bremen, because of the unexecptable qualtiy. In Germany the w202 is known as one of the best build cars from Mercedes
I still have a 2006 ML 350. (140,000 K miles) Not many problems as you described here. No rust on mine. I keep it in the garage, it looks new.. Yours looks trashed here. Sad. I have owned 4 Mercedes and they have saved my wife's life twice. Very safe cars. Best of luck to you tho. Lots of negatives here. I know no car is perfect but Mercedes have been good to us.
Thanks for sharing Ron. Yes we have had some issues and overall not too impressed but if a person has a good experience then that’s what matters most.
Please does your ml 350 2006 4matic have issues especially on cam shaft as I used to hear?
I have a 92 500sl, which I love, an 04 Cayenne S and an 05 Infiniti Fx35.
I am looking at an 07 ML63 AMG and wanted to know your thoughts on what your prefer between that, an 06 Cayenne Turbo, or X5?
I had a 2001 S430 that I bought off lease, so it was three years old. It had every problem you mentioned and a lot more. I traded it in for a Toyota Camry! I have a W204 and a W205 now and they’re much better cars. The W204 is of much better quality than the W205 though.
how’s the m177 c63 engine, split between an m3 or c63s
S420 is the best... I've had mine 20 years and only replaced one water hose outside of brake pads...268000 miles and still💪💪💪
ownership plays a big role in reliability. great for you!!
wowwwww .... Ours is E 300 but suspension is not good very low ground clearance ....... not to mention poor interiors especially dash board panel 🙄 ... and rust is coming 7 years down ⬇️
Made in Germany I assume
@@AlexiGreco yes ... Want to sell it offf
W140's are special. Love my '97 s320. Almost 300k on the dial and that inline 6 stills purs like a kitten.
I'm having trouble picking a BMW. I want a BMW 428i grand coupe but don't know if i should get a 2014-2016 i cant find whats the difference between anything other than the year can you help me out..
I owned a W202 C230K for 7 years drove it daily and I must say it was one of the best cars I ever owned!
An old lady friend has a low mileage W202 that I'll buy when my current W202 perishes. Mine has been a pleasure to own.
I love mercs but the ML 163 shape was crap and interior was nasty..... ended up getting a BMW E53 X5 4.6 Alpina .... still got it.
Very Informative! Could you do a video on Mercedes Benz S63 AMG Class: 2014 - 2019 Years! Thanks! Stay Safe! S.B.
Thank you Mark fir the Info
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Thanks for mention specifically the generation of the models too rather than broadly categorize the entire series. For example, the W163 series ML is much different than the 2015 ML version of Mercedes Benz, which looks almost identical to the 2016 GLE. The W222 S class definitely made more improvement than the W220 S class.
the problm of mbz is there are many cumputer chips in the car, and when they fail, so....expensive to get them replace.
I'm a 20 year Master Mechanic with Mercedes Benz. The new ones have all of the problems these old one had plus more problems. literally a problem with every part of the car.
including the E class?
What about the CLA Class?
What about the GLE 350?
@@HectorHernandez-wm4ey yes it has its problems. Lots of issues with the radio and entertainment system, Android auto and Apple car play issues. Windows that don't work correctly and squeak when going up and down,the seats will stop working, check engine lights, sunroof issues... I can keep going.
Thoughts on 2009 gl 450?
Great video. Whats your take on 2015 gla 45 amg. See alot of those on the roads. Have you had any experience good or bad with them.
He isnt lying about the w251 rclass. Ive owned 2 my 1st one was great. The one I have now is currently getting the transmission repaired at 136000 miles. Transmission is known to go bad on Rclass. Replaced MAF, replaced intake manifold, replaced fuel pump and still check engine light code P085. Best benz ive owned was the w219 cls550.
W202 C-Class in Morocco has a very good reputation, it's an icon.
My W202 remains solid after 23 years. I couldn't ask for a stronger or cheaper car to drive. Last week I used it like a truck to haul 800 kilos of sod, tools, and construction materials. This week it's cleaned up, shinny, and will be ready to haul people around. I still get complements on it, but I've kept up the maintenance.
I still own a c230k. apart from wear and tear my cars been reliable. I've had it 16 years. But I've had 2 air mass meters.its done 300000 miles now. So not too bad.. All cars break..but they fix
Love mines be good to it . It'll be good to you
Mercedes benz have not learnt the art of a good air suspension system, love the look, owned four but back full time to Toyota. Too many things to go wrong with the Mercedes.
I guess he is sponsored to destroy Mercedes Benz image in the market
I had a 1998 C230 owned it 4 years i never ever had one single problem none
I have a 350 GL and my only problem is the rear tailgate, some times it works and sometimes it wont lock-in and goes back up. Please help me as I like the car, what is the solution to this problem, hope you can help. I live in the Czech Republic. Cheers Tom
Had C220 and no issues till I sold it with 230,000 klms....It was a reliable and well balanced car. Certainly not sporty.
If you want to buy a Mercedes, just buy made in Stuttgart...and give yourself peace of mind.
The W220 was made in Stuttgart?
@@vroomvroombrian1372 No,in Sindelfingen.And it´s a great car.Not all are rusty,either.
yup.
What if my MB was made in yerboodee?
What are your on the glk 350 I’m looking at a few cars and that made us one of them any thoughts or red flags?
@exoticcar playplace I'm finding myself in a spot. The two vehicles we have currently are getting older but they've been so reliable that it's kind of a if it's not broke don't replace it but my mazda 6 is 15 yrs old and 160k trouble free miles smae for the wife's 10 yr old cx5. I am considering a cx9 buts it's basically a Ford Explorer in v6 or turbo reliability issues in the newer vehicle. Real question is MB ML/GLE 350 v6 3.5 is this a reasonable suv to look at for my wife. We don't need a giant vehicle but the cx5 is tight when we travel. I'm also looking at the x5 b58 and the larger Lexus gx460 but that seems to be the most car for the money but I can buy a much newer MB/BMW than the Lexus and are these newer luxury products reliable enough or just stick to An MDX and stop over thinking.
I've had 2 w203 c classes one was a wagon and one a sedan that I still have, both way past 200k miles the one I still have runs absolutely perfect just a couple interior pieces that broke, and of course the head lights are slightly foggy
Do a review on Peugeot 3008 suv I'll love to know what you think
I agree. I have gl350 2013 bluetec and have had many minor problems.
Oh no, not good
Hey @exoticcarplayplace
Can you share some info on w205 c400 2015ish I am looking to buy. Any tips?
I've been hearing that the ML onto the GLE had been pretty solid...
Though that bit about the same generation S Class means that some early 2000s QC issues hit Benz, too... along with a bunch of other auto makers.
Still like the GLE, though... have it on a particular wishlist.
Very nice
Love my ML500.... It's a little beast and it's also a little beast at the gas pump too..... Only problem I've had with it thus far is power steering she's a 2005 I bought her with a hundred six thousand miles she now has a hundred and twelve....knew the power steering unit was bad when I bought it..... Cross my fingers I hope that's the only problem I have........ If gas prices don't start going down she is going to have to go bye bye....😐
Thank you for your video. As a Mercedes owner of C Class vehicles for over thirty years I personally believe the biggest problems occur because people do not have their cars serviced on a regular basis. I owned two C Class cars for a total of nineteen years. Now, the service cost at the Mercedes dealer made me cry at times but I never had a problem with my cars driving 12,000 a year.
Well said!
First Gen 63 liter engine 1998-2010, had faulty head bolts that would corrode to the point of failure which could result in complete engine failure. It also had hard lifters that would cause premature cam wear.
takata affected almost every brand thats on takata not Mercedes , Mercedes was even replacing airbags before takata took responsibility and action unlike many other brands that waited for takata to admit fault and start paying for the work ect
Yes... I appreciate that those lethal Takata bags weren’t installed on my E350. She has ten air bags so swapping them all out would mean lots of disruption and more potential errors perhaps...
Hello. I recently bought a 2013 SL550 Roadster. It only had 17k miles, and I paid for a pre-purchase inspection from the dealer. Aside from a strange and occasional roaring sound from the rear end, which the MB dealer couldn't explain, it checked out very nicely. And was well maintained even though it was rarely driven in 9 years. Should I be worried about this model?
The best way to take care of your SL is to make sure you use it on a regular basis - these cars need to get out of the garage and on the road - and do the routine maintenance. Enjoy
@@Scoharr Hello. Thanks for your reply. Btw, the roaring noice was a bad wheel bearing. Thank God, I purchased an extended warranty.
Have a 2004 c320 wagon since new . Only had to do General maintenance. No problems whatsoever. I travel state to state. Trust my old mercedes for long distance travel more then my BMW . Great solid car . Smooth and powerful. Only a 5 inch spot of rust . On entire car . Love it . With eBay amazon it's extremely cheap to maintain . Go get one !!
Awesome video and great information!
Thank you very much
I was seriously looking at the R-Class but now am like hmmmmm..😟🤔🤦🏽♂️
Not sure about all of the W202 c classes, but I would love to own that v8 c43 amg you showed in your video lol.
That's one, hot, future collector car. Only 500 imported to the U.S.
19 want a c300 w205. good idea or nah? how much should I be ready to pay maintenance wise?
Hey marc i was asking what do you think
about 2005. Amg 550 g wagon
The cars I want in the near future (in no particular order):
1. Mercedes-Benz E-Class wagon
2. Acura TLX Type S
3. Volkswagen Golf GTI
4. Peugeot 508 GT (when Peugeot returns to USA, of course)
5. Tesla Model S
Other cars I like include the Tesla Model 3, Acura NSX, Porsche 911, Dodge Charger, and Ford Mustang.
*Hopefully your bank account looks like the guy who has been in charge of engineering at Tesla; ummm..this dude also has a rocket and various outlets claim he is on his way to be the first trillionaire …as long as your bank account looks kinda similar, you can own ALL THESE from just your “pocket change,” not a problem!*
@@letscuthairtoday9038 Well now it looks like Peugeot won't return. :(
Had a C220 about twenty years ago and pretty much had all the problems you mentioned but I also had AC problems and the headliner falling and the leather seat stitching breaking. This car was cancer!
still the greatest carmaker on earth by many
Still got my C230 Kompressor in excellent condition....the only thing I recently replaced was the radiator. Runs great!
I had an ML350. I absolutely loved it, except for the gas mileage. I didn't have as many problems as you mentioned. However, the steering column had to be replaced, and I had problems with my battery being drained because, the kill switch in the computer would not cut off when you turned off the car. Therefore, I had to keep starting the car every so many hours. I do miss it though.
Still got mine and I keep it in the garage. Yes, the gas mileage is crap.
My mom got hers used and we’ve had it almost ten years now. I think it’s because mine is a 2012 but we’ve never had issues with gas mileage. It’s been through a ton of shit and it’s still holding up
@@Karrambide mine had full-time four wheel drive, so my gas mileage was 15 mpg. I did enjoy it.
What year was your ML350?
@@DavidSanchez-li8fu 2004
Had c180 99 models since 2009 with almost 300k km still run awesomely, I never had any issues with it...
All these models were released during the disastrous Daimler-Chrysler period, quality was compromised over profits. So anything from 1995 - 2007 is rubbish. Benz have gone back to their engineering roots starting with the w204 c class onwards
For sure and they have. watch improved on everything.
I have a 2001 Ml320 and have had it since 04 and it has been the best vehicle that I have owned, very few issues at all and it has 173.000 miles on it. The only thing is now that it's older it needs valve cover gaskets every couple of years but otherwise nothing major.
That sounds like a good track record
@@ECPP it is, I drive this vehicle everyday and have pretty much since I purchased it. The worst thing that has happened to it was my transmission mount broke,my friends tell me that you can afford to buy a newer one but why should I when this baby is still running like it was when I purchased it. I do also have a 96 S420 as well but I rarely drive it and keep it in storage.
We have a Gl 450 2011 and it has been ok but the airbag suspension sucks. Ride isn't that good and they fail. Right now its sidelined due to failure of the suspension. I'm never getting anything but strut suspension from now on.
Glad my two aren't on that list. I have a 2013 w204 C350 coupe that I love, and my wife has a 2016 GLE350 with none of the issues of that ML.
My sister had a 320ml and in 12 years put 360,000 miles on it. She hardly changed the oil and it was quite dependable. But every car is different
You mean every owner.
@mrsportschampion5796 you mean both every car & owner! 😅
My old man had one of those ML models and literally didn't have a single one of those issues - but it was the most numb and miserable car to drive. He got an X5 and it felt like a Lamborghini in comparison
They do drive more like a car than a conventional suv
Love your channel Mark its great.
Thanks a lot. Much appreciated
Thanks a lot. All true what you said. Also, electrical issues on S class were a pain a butt!!!
Remember the slogan ,"the best or nothing". I own one GLC 43 AMG, V6 biturbo....a lot of power man! No issues!
Great machine and solid drivetrain for this vehicle
I could recall motor trend stating “when you pay half of a Mercedes, you get half of a Mercedes “
yes
I paid 1/10th of a Mercedes for mine😂😂
@@tati-anaroseee4316 me2😂, and being lucky I got more than 90% of the car
Please give me info about (b class 180 cdi 2007)... how good is that
Good video! Very informative! Just the thumb nail was misleading ....I thought maybe newer Mercedes were on this list!!
For the MLs 1999-2005
These cars are very tough SUVs
If you get a used one, you have to check if the owner maintained it well
Other than that they are nice cheap luxury cars to have
Never left me stranded
Have one that is about 159000 miles in CA
I owned 2002 ml320 trouble free, but i read a lot of horrible stories online forums. like any vehicle hit or miss
I have an ml430 sport model. It has been a dream. CA and high desert drivers. The plastics are brittle in places but if you can handle that, they are great for a 19 year old SUV. V8 - 268hp, just lovely. I threw in a new head unit and now I have a lot of modern tech at my fingertips to boot.
215,000 on my ML430.
I lost you when you came to the 202. I know many that own/have owned them and they have been bulletproof.
Same
True, probably one of the more reliable mercs of old
I want another one with low mileage. I love my W202.
I sill own my ML w163 since 2004 and is the best car ever I had and I will never sell it. Maybe I will now consider the GLE or GLS, but I am still reluctant to change it. Never got issues you mentioned. I leave in mountain with lot of snow and the performance is unbeatable comparing to most other similar car I had or I have tried.
Can you review the glc 300 2020 and how reliable it is. Thanks
Funny thing is, I still do see quite a lot of first gen ML's out on the road. Not sure if that's because their reliability is just hit or miss, or MB just happened to make a shit ton of them lol
There are a lot left likely because there were a lot manufactured and a lot of the repairs were fairly standard to perform and let’s also remember that this era was largely naturally aspirated. Regardless I know that many drive around rusted out and some electrics or plastic parts in non serviceable condition. We drove ours with. Sunroof failed because it was a bit older by the time it failed and I ended up just scanning together cup holders amongst “settling”. BTW, other than the water pump, crank sensor and coils, the V8 engine was solid.
@@ECPP I’m looking at a 2012 ML 350 at a used car lot (2 owners) I’ve been researching for days and can’t get a clear answer if this is a good buy. Btw it’s an Arizona car, no rust but maybe Dry 😩
@@danadmb41 I say go ahead and buy it because you'll probably at least make your money back if it doesn't pan out and if it does you'll get an amazing car
@@tati-anaroseee4316 thanks, i did that about an hour after posting my comment. $50 at Office Depot
You think nothing should ever go wrong on any Mercedes? Sure! Just like good ol' American cars - there are good ones and bad ones! I've relied largely on older (10-20y/o) MBs to get my family around for the last ten years - only had to put one on a truck so far - and that one was 27 years old and at 315000km at the time!
I’m looking towards a 2014 c class 250 coupe. Any bad comments about it?
Hey there,
Any known problems with Mercedes GLS diesel models?
Thank you in advance.
I had the ML 500 and didn't have any problems. I leased it instead of owning, that way I can have something else after three years.
Thats fair and we had ours for numerous years and mostly out of warranty.
That first Mercedes was scrap iron... I don't know why, but Mercedes cars always felt DIY-Unfriendly to me...
The German built W163 I had here in Britain is a well built car, I only had injector seals leaking and body rust problems only
I presumed you had the prefacelift version of the W163?
I bought my first one owner 2004 ML350 in China 8 years ago it had 140K km on it, it was 8 years old then, we added 60K km to it, most of them added when we took it for extended driving holiday, one of our holiday was 3 months with 15k km in the Xinjiang province in China, where some stretches of road were uninhabited for more than 100km and with no cellphone coverage, but we felt completely confident with it.
Cars of this age has the usual wear and tear but nothing unexpected, and find a good garage who knows how to service it properly is important, as I had a bad experience at the garage that a friend recommended who did not has the proper tool to replace the suspension arm ball joints and use a brutal method and hammering it in, damaging all 4 dust covers of the brand new ball joints. It broke down once due to failed fuel pump. Maintenance is relatively cheap if one knows a little about car and where to find cheap and good quality parts. When the U joint was worn the Mercedes dealership quoted about US1000 for the whole prop shaft assembly, as Mercedes do not sell the U Joint alone, aftermarket part dealers do not sell the U joints alone too. But I managed to find information online that Dana spicer supplied the U joint to Mercedes so had two U joints replaced for about USD50 (parts only) This car is still with me.
With the good experience of the first W163, I bought another single owner 2003 ML350, also with 140K km when we relocated to Malaysia. Added 30K to it during the 4 years ownership. It is just as good as the one we had in China. This car is 18 years old now.
I have to add that both cars had a complete oil change (motor oil, trans, axle, brake fluid, radiator flush etc.) after I bought them. Kept up to oil changes religiously. Both cars are rust free, they were well look after by their previous owners.
We may be relocating to Austria, I am contemplating buying another W163. This time it may be the ML270 diesel.
While I actually prefer the look of the prefacelift version, I did hear that the prefacelift version (pre-2002) are problematic and best to avoid and I have seen poorly maintained facelifted examples that were terrible too.
These were expensive cars, probably about the same price as the S class, and 5-10 times the price of Corolla if not more, there are lots of special features that ordinary cars do not have, it is unfair to compare these with a basic Corolla for maintenance as there are inadvertently a lot more things to fail and to replace, especially if they were neglected by their previous owners and skimmed on maintenance.
I have to admit that the W163 do not feel as well built, nor as comfortable as my other vintage Mercedes W124 and W202.
My advice to buying one is to buy a post 2002, 1-2 owners, well maintained and low mileage one, even if it cost twice more than the cheap and poorly maintained ones. Be prepared to budget for at least a 5 times more than a Corolla for annual maintenance. It takes 8 litres of fully synthetic motor oil, 12 iridium spark plugs that cost a bomb, but they last a long time, in between the 90k km I had with two cars I have only changed one set of spark plugs.
a well look after W163 is certainly a great buy.
Couldn't agree more, I work with them and they are terrible.
Thanks for sharing
still the greatest carmaker on earth to me....greetings from Jamaica
@@booblam6919 they are, I own a Marcedes! Just these 5 model year are terrible.
Yeah, I've owned an X164 (GL450) and a W251 (R350 BlueTEC) out of warranty. There were some expensive repairs, and I ended up getting rid of the latter because of numerous issues. However, I think that they were great cars and would have both of them again. I think they were more worthwhile than my Porsche Cayenne S, to be honest. My mom's W211 (E500W4) is the best Mercedes that I've had. Absolutely no major problems. I spend probably about $200-300/year on maintenance and repairs. I've also really enjoyed my X166 (GL63 AMG). However, it's only 5 years old now and at 42k miles. It did have a major repair recently, but I am still under warranty.
It certainly can vary but the higher up the food chain chances are the pricier the repairs, potentially.
@@ECPP I have a 2019 Audi Q8 and even though I have only had it since May 2019, I have been very pleased at how incredibly reliable it has been. For a debut model, there have only been two dealership visits aside from 10k maintenance. A b-pillar rattle and a software update to address the throttle lag that customers (including me) were complaining about. I don't think I've ever been more pleased with a car than I have been my Q8.
@I CU I had to replace the suspension at 78k miles ($5k at Indie). Power steering leak, just topped off annually no problem. CD player stopped working, no one could fix it recommended replacing entire COMAND system-way too expensive. Otherwise, not too many issues. The car is now with my aunt who I sold it to at 105k miles. She is enjoying it. It's a 2010 GL450.
WHILE SEARCHING FOR RECALLS AND CRAPPY BENZ’ the gl was on the lists. Do some research before warranty ends and trade!!! Bmw with 400 series with b58 motors are super reliable. Have Toyota Supra motors in them!
As a W140 owner I am glad you did not mentioned that one haha
Your fellow Canadian was right about that S 500: "Rust Never Sleeps" (1979)
I had a 2000 C230 Kompressor, zero issues. The only W202 to avoid would be from 1994-1997
because of the M104 engine?