If only the mechanic got even a hint of that hourly cost, most is pocketed by the Stealership. Mechanics are poorly paid in general considering the knowledge and technical nature of the cars, not to mention they have to supply their own tools. Only the senior ones are approaching $30-$35/hr
@@nobodyyouknow4319 & that’s why I’d just have my own shop, the contractor I used to work for didn’t want to pay me enough, so I started my own company & been self employed for over a decade
I owned a 04 W203 Kompressor with 6sp stick and most of my issues were indeed front suspension related, replaced thrust arms, lower control arms, tie rods and links several times over. Had the car for 17 years and was as rust free as it was new and I live in Toronto where they use salt like it is free. As i did most of the work on the car, never ever had an issue with a rusted or seized bolt, where as every Japanese car I've worked on, after 5 years every bolt snaps off. The car was generally quite trouble-free that I bought another C class W205 Wagon 2020
Not arguing. My mechanic makes the point that the newer Mercedes break a lot. Scotty K. said that German-made ones are less prone to breaking. I have an older W164 GL450, 160,000 miles. I've replaced the front air shocks, the pump. The front and rear sensors are erratic (I turn them off). Garage kept. Runs pretty well, very comfortable to drive.
Re: Rust, to be fair the first 2 cars you showed was a W210 and a W202 all of which are over 20 years for the newest ones and approaching 30 years for the oldest ones. Considering the C-class that you highlighted was a C220 1993-96 that is not a lot of rust for a 28 year old car living in Edmonton, every other car from that period would have rusted into dust like Mazda, Toyoto, Ford etc. The first gen ML was garbage and was the first MB to be made in the US and suffered from a lot of problems. Since 2003 all MB were made from galvanized steel and some of the most recent ones (C-class 2014+) are mainly all aluminum except for high strength steel for the A post and rear quarter.
That’s fair, thanks a lot for sharing , as this a great way to help out the real car enthusiast community. After all, life’s too short to drive boring cars.
Truly nice to know that even the engine mounts can leak on a Mercedes. At least they don't have a sensor hooked up to it so another light comes on when it's falling apart.
I’ve had a brand new C250 2012 and a brand new A45 2016 model. Tyre wear was ridiculous,on the A45 I’ve changed 3 sets of new tyres $450 Aud per tyre in 24000 km’s. The car went few times in limp mode while driving in comfort mode. The triangular plastic from the passenger seat got loose started falling off . Distronic plus was working 30% of the time, the air vents were rattling. Also the driver’s seat adjustment controller went inside the door panel twice,so I had to take it to MB dealership and the 2nd time they’ve scratched the door and kept denying it. When hot the brakes were making squeaking noise.The C250 was pulling to the left a lot. Took it to MB dealership and after 2-3 wheel alignments they’ve said to me it’s ok even though it was not ok. Also the brakes were let’s just say,not up to standard. I would never buy another Benz again.
@@ECPP My W124 and W126 are as solid as Panzer IV. I just don't understand why people want to buy new computer cars? There was a TV commercial says a person only needs to buy one Mercedes in his life time and he can pass it to his son. I guess that era has long gone!
The overwhelming majority of what was mentioned in this video applies to all cars and is a result of rubber and plastic pieces being used. Rubber and plastic have a 5 to 7 year lifespan in just about any automotive engineering application regardless of the manufacturer. Most people do not care about these pieces and just replace cars when they start to knock or things start cracking. Bushings, airbags, variety of sensors, spark plugs, etc. And as to the statement regarding spark plugs in Hondas lasting the life of the car, please provide written proof from Honda that their spark plugs will last those 200,000 or 300,000 miles. I have to call out BS on that one. Even iridium spark plugs should be changed every 100,000 miles or so.
Also if you rely on the MB dealership for service on your used 4 to15 year old S-Class....Yes you will go broke!!! $$$ "Find yourself a good private mechanic" I have owned six S-Class models over the years ....great cars.
I have a W204 2012 C Class 80k Km, so far no issues at all, great luxury drive, if you are thinking of buying a used German, I would definitely recommend getting one that's low mileage, under 100k for sure.
I'll take a Lexus or an Acura before I get a Mercedes or BMW, I'm not interested in paying $600 for an oil change on a money pit just to impress someone with low self esteem who will only be seen with someone who has a fancy car that will turn into a lawn ornament
You're absolutely correct about poor construction on Mercs such as the ML and C class of late 1990s to 2000s. There seem to be fewer and fewer on the roads. Our family owned several new ones and they are rubbish. My sister has a W204 which has several oil leak problems which were unheard of in very early Mercs such as W114, 123, 124.
Yesterday I saw a brand new Mercedes-Benz CLA at the In-N-Out drive through here in Nevada and the sunroof was tilted open but it was lopsided on one side.....basically one side of the sunroof was fully collapsed and the other side was fully open in the tilt position. It looked strange to see that on a new Benz.
You can afford a used Mercedes even if you cannot afford a new one if you're a pretty handy or a mechanic however most people who own Mercedes do not work on them themselves but there are some that do such as myself but it's best to err on the side of safety and be sure that you can afford at least the expensive parts if you cannot afford to have a shop install them for you
Find it interesting that parts may cost double/trouble compared to a cheaper vehicle, as if to say they are superior when clearly they are not. Although it could be just bad design, so that it is difficult to repair and the cost of labour becomes astronomical.
I own one of last better made Benzes, a C300 4-Matic Luxury. I purchased in full with cash. The car is 10 Years Old, under 10K Miles, always kept in air conditioned & heated garage, and impeccable maintenance. The car is built like vault & handles very well compared to the current C & E Classes. That being said you should buy the extended warranty, keep up maintenance & drive the car. An oil change is $300; An A Service is $800 & B-Service starts at $2K. The car is a joy & am never selling it, at least while I am alive. To get a comparable car like this I would have to buy a 6-Figure S-Class & I can think of much better ways to spend my 🤑🤑🤑
Hi there. I would like C300. Beautiful cars. Prefer the coupe. Which years would you recommend? Just to start my research. I don't mind older if low kms.
Many years ago I asked a guy in a parking lot, over the fence to a Mercedes dealership, what an oil change on a Mercedes cost (he worked in the showroom). "A hundred bucks", he said. When you buy a luxury car, to some extent you "buy into the neighborhood". I'm not an expert at all, probably know less than most about cars, but it seems to me that today's "cheap" cars have plenty of luxury and safety. My "big thing", for me to even consider a car, is that cruise control MUST be on the steering wheel. Bentley 2024 put it on a stick ($350,000+). I would never buy one, for that reason alone. Even a hot, HP, muscle, Mustang puts it on the wheel, where it belongs. So does Mercedes. An "auto" "mobile" is all about moving from one place to another. A cruise control (CC) automatically controls the speed. That is a primary function. A secondary function is a radio, and a tertiary function is a phone. Why put sound and phone on the wheel and displace the primary function? Cart before the horse? Especially on an ultra luxury cruiser like a Bentley. I use CC on freeways, and in the suburbs. I want it under my thumb, just a touch one way or the other, without taking a hand off the wheel. If you have something like a GT 3 (Porsche), you could just omit CC altogether - and they should do that, before relegating it to a stick! Presumably, you didn't buy a GT 3 to "cruise", and you do not want to take your hands off the wheel driving one of those things. That's why they put gear shifters on paddles on the steering wheel.
Plastic is not self lubricating it just wears away great video single handedly take on and slag off the big boy corporations for their underhanded crap cars they make us drive around in you're a star man great job 👍 👏 😉 😀
I agree more with you than you’ll ever know. Research the term, “planned obsolescence “ and you’ll understand going forward, the less one would or should use good earned cash on this.
Yup, my thoughts as well...No I didn't know what would need to be replaced but the thought of being faced with extortionate prices were enough to keep me well away from them and to get a Skoda Octavia instead!
I just watched another video of yours which you were explaining why used mb s are great cars and now this... 🤦 so can you give us a clear opinion about the issue?? Are used mbs good buy or not?
I used to ride around in Mercedes-Benz taxis with leather seats in Germany while stationed over there. Rode from the base to the bars like a doctor! :)
you forgot to mention how the water pump only lasts 100k miles, if that. The exhaust manifold in the newer AMG models are made of plastic and are prone to cracking
So for a 2014 S-class is the air suspension system the only applicable issue on this list? Or are the motor mount and CV joint common problems as well? May buy one with 50k miles...
Robert------Maybe in 5 to 15 years from now you will be dealing with a few issues but that is true on any vehicle. My 16 year old Mercedes has had NONE of these problems so far.
Every time at the start of these videos I expect the Jag to either; Fishtail and end up in the stream on the right or just explode leaving a trail of oil behind it. Hasn't happened yet but it will happen.
All absolutely spot on warnings. Unless you have your own shop-level scantool, automotive tools, electrical tools and willingness to work on the car, you will need a massive bank balance for the maintenance the shops will charge.
nah fairy tales.. a good scan tool that has all the basic functions to perform full diagnostics cost less than $200 and have basic metric tools but you need to enjoy working on your car rather than go to a dealer or have a good independent mechanic , most jobs are relatively simple....
@@mac2k2020 I had a reply, but apparently offering auto advice on youtube is verboten because it keeps auto deleting it even though literally nothing is even remotely against TOS...... So Ill just say my part ala TLDR: I own 3 old bmws and you're wrong. My high end prosumer/entry level shop scantool has saved me from things a lower tier would not. These arent japanese cars, you wont get away with it on 20 year old german luxury cars and it only gets worse the more modern they get...... so theres futureproofing as well to take into account.
well no you are wrong or maybe bmw are special but i know for a fact they are not as the same tools available for MB have BMW versions, I own the MB star diagnostic xentry/DAS full package capable to diagnose and code all mb/maybach and sprinters from 70's to current ... same as the dealer minus some subscription only features , but I only use it to diagnose pre odb2 models because it comes with the right connectors and occasionally look at the DAS for service info and schematics but it's nothing you can't find online these days but that portion of the STAR is useful, what I use and has about 90% of the same capabilities of the STAR system are the icarsoft mb2 $143 very good and even better the launch x431 @ $160 it's amazing faster than MB star system more practical because it's the size of a phone and it let me perform adaptations/initialization and other advanced programming so no the high end star system is not needed but it does come useful to diagnose pre odb2 mercedes which I own , other than that the launch x431 is all it's needed as the only features missing are those that require a subscription only available to dealers like key fob programming and swapping parts that require vin # matching @@TheStaniG
@@mac2k2020 lol pre-obd2 cars.... Well yeah no shit they wont take much of a scan tool, theyre barely electronic 😂 but everything German north of 2005 or like 2007 and your scantool requirement for german cars starts getting insane, and then adding future proofing on top of that..... My original comment stands for the age range most people generally pickup these cars in, the 15-20 year old models with electronics integrations everywhere after the turn of the millenium.
Omg stop exaggerating, a compressor replacement is not $3-4k, an OEM compressor is 300-400 dollars, very easy access and a few screws (I think 3) to undo…
Have a close friend that had a ML suv exactly like the one u show, color & all, electric radiator fan went out, about 5yrs ago, damn thing was $1300 just for the part…… I’ve paid less for cheap work cars. Ya I’m good, I’ll keep my old f250 5.4 2valve. Still runs perfect & parts are cheap & it’s easy for me to work on 268k miles & still runs like a top, original engine
ExoticCar PlayPlace Do you guys up in Canada have a "DODGE NOISE POLLUTION" problem😠??? Seems like mostly everyone in Philadelphia pa wants to drive a car with an obnoxiously loud🙉 exhaust, even when it means no extra horsepower🤔🤔🤔. If so, maybe you could do a video showing cars that were made with cheap turbochargers, that were made with paper thin aluminum. Great video by the way, I tried to own a car that was beyond my wallet ..... that was an expensive and embarrassing lesson I had to learn 🤑🤣🤣
@@martinsvensson6884 - Source? Hard to believe BMW and Mercedes beat Toyota or Honda in terms of highest miles before junked. And even if that were true (which I doubt), how much money had to be pumped into the BMW or Merc for the miles to get that high.
@@martinsvensson6884 I agree BMW has become fairly reliable overall according to all sources these days like consumer reports! People hold onto to them longer then most people think in actuality!
Hey I am planning to get 2011 to 2013 c class can you recommend which one should i look into and which one should i stay away from. I am confused. i am looking for confort, power and reliability factors in Australia my budget is 15k Australian dollars.
I recently saw an MB AMG S500 for sale for pretty cheap but it was having problems with the air suspension. I think that right there would probably negate the benefits of getting it at such a good price. Beautiful looking car otherwise. And of course the sound of that AMG V8. Great video. Edited to make it clear I did NOT buy the car.
@@tomburke1687 Whoa, hold on. Who said anything about buying it? I said I saw it for sale, I didn't say anything about buying it - I couldn't afford the upkeep on that thing.
@@ECPP Normally I fix all my mercs at a garage near where I live because it's much cheaper than the dealer, but I went to the dealer to replace the crank sensor on my C32 AMG a few weeks ago when I was on a business trip in a city 300 kilometers away. Turned out the price of the crank sensor isn't very high, around $300. An average person can afford that, eh? You only run into the crank sensor issue every 8 years or so. It's like I said people should avoid all models produced in the Dark Ten Years marriage with Chrysler and I think you should tell that to all your followers.
The early ML-Series was a quick development and did not get good until 2007. I heard they are made by a contractor in Alabama, not Mercedes itself ??????? Also the electronics GO at over 100K.
You are giving confusing information on used Mercedes. I recently saw your video about how one can own a used Mercedes and save thousands. Which one is correct? Thanks
Learn on UA-cam how to do your own oil changes and maintenance. Find an independent local mechanic to work on it when problems arise. Take care of your car and it will take care of you.
You want a cheap reliable car with luxury trimmings, buy a Toyota Avalon. Preferably after 2012. You want a star on your car, you are going to pay. I had an E Class 350. It wasn't cheap. Awesome ride though. I would love another one.
My uncle gave me a 1972 Mercedes 450SL convertible. Spent $8,000 just for oil, brake fluid, transmission fluid changes, brake service and other “minor” repairs. After that there is always an issue every four months, most are minor but each visit is minimum $1,100.00. Getting rid of it soon
I just bought a 2020 Mercedes with 9000K miles. Now I'm hooked and will get another low mileage Mercedes before I accumulate too many miles. It drives like no oter car I've owned.
That rust must be due to salted roads…? My 18 year old W211 (a German Singelfingen built car) has zero rust in Australia where we NEVER use salt. All up the E-Class, German built, has served me well in the W124 and W211 chassis.
it's the paint , mercedes like other car manufacturers in that decade used water based paint so yes if you lived in a cold climate with snow and salty road that will happen, from the w211 on no rust issues
Lexus has 1 computer that controls everything. Mercedes has a separate computer for each function. Audi uses 2 fuel pumps. When one fuel pump goes out, both have to be replaced.
I’m getting mixed messages from this channel.. seeing this from 10months ago and then another video 5 months ago praising the build of Mercedez and that all it needs is keeping up with maintenance and service and it could last longer than a Toyota.. WHICH IS IT?????
It’s all accurate and these cars cost a lot to maintain which is why the neglect can turn them into money pits , but look after it, nothing beats some of these cars for the driving exoeriencr
So basically nothing that doesn't occur in a majority of high mileage older vehicles... Regarding costs who expects to maintain and repair a Mercedes Benz for a cost similar to a Honda?
He is talking about high mileage Mercedes. Any high mileage vehicle will have problems, especially American made. The answer is just not to buy a high mileage vehicle and get rid rid of it before shit happens or just get an aftermarket policy that will pay for repairs. Mercedes makes a fine quality vehicle. My wife and I have owned a lot of Mercedes and never had a problem with any of them. I love MB.
It's tough to go back, because nothing drives as good or gives me the same feeling as a proper M car! Brand new or used with a warranty is the way to go if you own German! Definitely can get expensive unfortunately!
daily driver i buy any old crap. right now we have a 2020 nissan leaf. summer car i always have american muscle cars. right now i have a 2017 camaro 2ss. cant have a nice expensive car and drive it in winter.
Like all German cars don't buy it used if you can't DIY or have a good mechanic available. German cars are cheap to maintain if you buy your parts from the aftermarket.
as with all modern german cars. over engineered crap.. i have been driving 41 years and never have and never will own any german car. except maybe a porsche 911. not only do they cost a fortune to run they rust like hell here in sweden
Never buy 1st year of any model. the ls460 2007 is known for low quality. you should have gotten a 2006 ls430 or 2013 LS460. Do your research. on my 3rd lexus currently.
When expensive German cars go bad, it is a money losing experience for the owners. Mercedes used to be cars that were built to last. They were known for quality and innovation.
I don’t get the luxury car thing. My net worth is in the seven figures and I love my Toyota Avalons and Supras. Oh. Wait. That’s why my NW is in the seven figures- I don’t follow the Jones’ to the poorhouse. Got it.
I own a 16 year old Mercedes CLK and NONE of these issues, thankfully, have happened to my car. Not sure why he is declaring so much caution on issues that happen to all older vehicles.
the W221 S CLASS 2013 should be fine since it was the last year of that generation. Just get a pre purchase inspection and stay on top of the maintenance. it's a amazing car.
$190/hr…….. shit I need to be a Mercedes mechanic instead of a carpenter……. I’ll never run out of work
Exactly but here in Canada we get screwed this way from Sunday. Hint hint greasers.
If only the mechanic got even a hint of that hourly cost, most is pocketed by the Stealership. Mechanics are poorly paid in general considering the knowledge and technical nature of the cars, not to mention they have to supply their own tools. Only the senior ones are approaching $30-$35/hr
@@nobodyyouknow4319 & that’s why I’d just have my own shop, the contractor I used to work for didn’t want to pay me enough, so I started my own company & been self employed for over a decade
I own a 2006 w203. All I can say is that once an issue is sorted, you will use it for quite some time.
I owned a 04 W203 Kompressor with 6sp stick and most of my issues were indeed front suspension related, replaced thrust arms, lower control arms, tie rods and links several times over. Had the car for 17 years and was as rust free as it was new and I live in Toronto where they use salt like it is free. As i did most of the work on the car, never ever had an issue with a rusted or seized bolt, where as every Japanese car I've worked on, after 5 years every bolt snaps off. The car was generally quite trouble-free that I bought another C class W205 Wagon 2020
Magic word used here. 2006 🤙🏾
Interesting research “If you can’t afford a new one, you won’t be able to afford a used one” love ❤️ it , clever and catchy ✌️
Not arguing. My mechanic makes the point that the newer Mercedes break a lot. Scotty K. said that German-made ones are less prone to breaking. I have an older W164 GL450, 160,000 miles. I've replaced the front air shocks, the pump. The front and rear sensors are erratic (I turn them off). Garage kept. Runs pretty well, very comfortable to drive.
Re: Rust, to be fair the first 2 cars you showed was a W210 and a W202 all of which are over 20 years for the newest ones and approaching 30 years for the oldest ones. Considering the C-class that you highlighted was a C220 1993-96 that is not a lot of rust for a 28 year old car living in Edmonton, every other car from that period would have rusted into dust like Mazda, Toyoto, Ford etc. The first gen ML was garbage and was the first MB to be made in the US and suffered from a lot of problems. Since 2003 all MB were made from galvanized steel and some of the most recent ones (C-class 2014+) are mainly all aluminum except for high strength steel for the A post and rear quarter.
That’s fair, thanks a lot for sharing , as this a great way to help out the real car enthusiast community. After all, life’s too short to drive boring cars.
Used car salesman: “Well, at least they don’t burst into flames like Hyundai & Kia…….”
Truly nice to know that even the engine mounts can leak on a Mercedes. At least they don't have a sensor hooked up to it so another light comes on when it's falling apart.
BMW style indeed.
very informative and focus.never miss your videos bro.keep it up. you are a good samaritan in an automotive world
I’ve had a brand new C250 2012 and a brand new A45 2016 model. Tyre wear was ridiculous,on the A45 I’ve changed 3 sets of new tyres $450 Aud per tyre in 24000 km’s. The car went few times in limp mode while driving in comfort mode. The triangular plastic from the passenger seat got loose started falling off . Distronic plus was working 30% of the time, the air vents were rattling. Also the driver’s seat adjustment controller went inside the door panel twice,so I had to take it to MB dealership and the 2nd time they’ve scratched the door and kept denying it. When hot the brakes were making squeaking noise.The C250 was pulling to the left a lot. Took it to MB dealership and after 2-3 wheel alignments they’ve said to me it’s ok even though it was not ok. Also the brakes were let’s just say,not up to standard. I would never buy another Benz again.
I hear ya and it’s really odd how we have had similar experiences. They are nice to drive but feel a bit fragile.
@@ECPP My W124 and W126 are as solid as Panzer IV. I just don't understand why people want to buy new computer cars? There was a TV commercial says a person only needs to buy one Mercedes in his life time and he can pass it to his son. I guess that era has long gone!
Planning to get a 2019 Audi vs 2020 Mercedes’ C class coupe.
You think I should stay away from the merc?
@@AG-en5y only fools buy Audi
@@r107560sl124 and 126 are fantastic cars , 10 times better than a new Benz
I have 2013 CLS63 AMG, with 58,900 miles on it, and so far I have not experienced the problems you mentioned. But thanks for keeping us informed.
Thanks for watching, and hope you have a great weekend
Bro it only has 58,900 miles. Check in when it has 100k😂😂😂
I have a 2015 cls 63 s amg 72k miles it good so far
EXTENDED WARRANTY......that's my advice.....worth the additional cost
The overwhelming majority of what was mentioned in this video applies to all cars and is a result of rubber and plastic pieces being used. Rubber and plastic have a 5 to 7 year lifespan in just about any automotive engineering application regardless of the manufacturer. Most people do not care about these pieces and just replace cars when they start to knock or things start cracking. Bushings, airbags, variety of sensors, spark plugs, etc. And as to the statement regarding spark plugs in Hondas lasting the life of the car, please provide written proof from Honda that their spark plugs will last those 200,000 or 300,000 miles. I have to call out BS on that one. Even iridium spark plugs should be changed every 100,000 miles or so.
Also if you rely on the MB dealership for service on your used 4 to15 year old S-Class....Yes you will go broke!!! $$$ "Find yourself a good private mechanic" I have owned six S-Class models over the years ....great cars.
True are fix some of it yourself and that can save a pile of cash
As reliable as the ol crank windows are, I'd have a hard time going back to any car that had them. Same with power locks.
I have a W204 2012 C Class 80k Km, so far no issues at all, great luxury drive, if you are thinking of buying a used German, I would definitely recommend getting one that's low mileage, under 100k for sure.
Wait until it goes over 120k then your nightmare will start. There is no avoiding it due to all those crappy plastic parts in the engine.
80k km lol😂💀 coming from Toyotaland I used to get vehicles above 100k miles 💀💸
Nice
I'll take a Lexus or an Acura before I get a Mercedes or BMW, I'm not interested in paying $600 for an oil change on a money pit just to impress someone with low self esteem who will only be seen with someone who has a fancy car that will turn into a lawn ornament
He did say 60-70-80 thousand miles mark, your car is at 50k miles.
You're absolutely correct about poor construction on Mercs such as the ML and C class of late 1990s to 2000s. There seem to be fewer and fewer on the roads. Our family owned several new ones and they are rubbish. My sister has a W204 which has several oil leak problems which were unheard of in very early Mercs such as W114, 123, 124.
those bad years was during the Chrysler merger
123 and 124 are some of the best vehicles ever built …
The title should have been: Reason why Mercedes Benz don’t deserve your money!
for the brand benz ..only name remain from the glory of strong car or ...😉
Thanks for watching
Maintenance your car when it’s time, don’t put a lot of miles on it and that’s all you need to avoid mechanic shops, you’re welcome
Yesterday I saw a brand new Mercedes-Benz CLA at the In-N-Out drive through here in Nevada and the sunroof was tilted open but it was lopsided on one side.....basically one side of the sunroof was fully collapsed and the other side was fully open in the tilt position. It looked strange to see that on a new Benz.
You can afford a used Mercedes even if you cannot afford a new one if you're a pretty handy or a mechanic however most people who own Mercedes do not work on them themselves but there are some that do such as myself but it's best to err on the side of safety and be sure that you can afford at least the expensive parts if you cannot afford to have a shop install them for you
That’s true indeed
Find it interesting that parts may cost double/trouble compared to a cheaper vehicle, as if to say they are superior when clearly they are not. Although it could be just bad design, so that it is difficult to repair and the cost of labour becomes astronomical.
I own one of last better made Benzes, a C300 4-Matic Luxury. I purchased in full with cash. The car is 10 Years Old, under 10K Miles, always kept in air conditioned & heated garage, and impeccable maintenance. The car is built like vault & handles very well compared to the current C & E Classes. That being said you should buy the extended warranty, keep up maintenance & drive the car. An oil change is $300; An A Service is $800 & B-Service starts at $2K. The car is a joy & am never selling it, at least while I am alive. To get a comparable car like this I would have to buy a 6-Figure S-Class & I can think of much better ways to spend my 🤑🤑🤑
Hi there. I would like C300. Beautiful cars. Prefer the coupe. Which years would you recommend? Just to start my research. I don't mind older if low kms.
Many years ago I asked a guy in a parking lot, over the fence to a Mercedes dealership, what an oil change on a Mercedes cost (he worked in the showroom). "A hundred bucks", he said. When you buy a luxury car, to some extent you "buy into the neighborhood". I'm not an expert at all, probably know less than most about cars, but it seems to me that today's "cheap" cars have plenty of luxury and safety. My "big thing", for me to even consider a car, is that cruise control MUST be on the steering wheel. Bentley 2024 put it on a stick ($350,000+). I would never buy one, for that reason alone. Even a hot, HP, muscle, Mustang puts it on the wheel, where it belongs. So does Mercedes.
An "auto" "mobile" is all about moving from one place to another. A cruise control (CC) automatically controls the speed. That is a primary function. A secondary function is a radio, and a tertiary function is a phone. Why put sound and phone on the wheel and displace the primary function? Cart before the horse? Especially on an ultra luxury cruiser like a Bentley. I use CC on freeways, and in the suburbs. I want it under my thumb, just a touch one way or the other, without taking a hand off the wheel. If you have something like a GT 3 (Porsche), you could just omit CC altogether - and they should do that, before relegating it to a stick! Presumably, you didn't buy a GT 3 to "cruise", and you do not want to take your hands off the wheel driving one of those things. That's why they put gear shifters on paddles on the steering wheel.
It’s $100 to do an oil change on a Honda civic these days
Plastic is not self lubricating it just wears away great video single handedly take on and slag off the big boy corporations for their underhanded crap cars they make us drive around in you're a star man great job 👍 👏 😉 😀
If ExoticCar goes missing, we know who the culprits are… Mercedes and BMW
Haha, ouch
if they bring so much trouble why do you keep buying them?
I agree more with you than you’ll ever know. Research the term, “planned obsolescence “ and you’ll understand going forward, the less one would or should use good earned cash on this.
Thank you very much
My father has w211 e270 with 350k km, paid 6k€ used one, paid around 7k repairs during 7 years now. The car is just amazing.
Yup, my thoughts as well...No I didn't know what would need to be replaced but the thought of being faced with extortionate prices were enough to keep me well away from them and to get a Skoda Octavia instead!
Scotty will enjoy watching this video 😆
My 1989 300ce has some issues but still running strong, once I get them fixed I’m positive that it will outlast even their newer models
Great work, Thank You!!
Thank you too. Cheers
I just watched another video of yours which you were explaining why used mb s are great cars and now this... 🤦 so can you give us a clear opinion about the issue?? Are used mbs good buy or not?
He's just giving common issues
I used to ride around in Mercedes-Benz taxis with leather seats in Germany while stationed over there. Rode from the base to the bars like a doctor! :)
Cheers
you forgot to mention how the water pump only lasts 100k miles, if that. The exhaust manifold in the newer AMG models are made of plastic and are prone to cracking
So for a 2014 S-class is the air suspension system the only applicable issue on this list? Or are the motor mount and CV joint common problems as well? May buy one with 50k miles...
Robert------Maybe in 5 to 15 years from now you will be dealing with a few issues but that is true on any vehicle. My 16 year old Mercedes has had NONE of these problems so far.
All relevant in many models. Servicing does come at a cost. Great to drive, but there are things to think about.
Every time at the start of these videos I expect the Jag to either; Fishtail and end up in the stream on the right or just explode leaving a trail of oil behind it.
Hasn't happened yet but it will happen.
All absolutely spot on warnings. Unless you have your own shop-level scantool, automotive tools, electrical tools and willingness to work on the car, you will need a massive bank balance for the maintenance the shops will charge.
No you won’t
nah fairy tales.. a good scan tool that has all the basic functions to perform full diagnostics cost less than $200 and have basic metric tools but you need to enjoy working on your car rather than go to a dealer or have a good independent mechanic , most jobs are relatively simple....
@@mac2k2020 I had a reply, but apparently offering auto advice on youtube is verboten because it keeps auto deleting it even though literally nothing is even remotely against TOS......
So Ill just say my part ala TLDR: I own 3 old bmws and you're wrong. My high end prosumer/entry level shop scantool has saved me from things a lower tier would not. These arent japanese cars, you wont get away with it on 20 year old german luxury cars and it only gets worse the more modern they get...... so theres futureproofing as well to take into account.
well no you are wrong or maybe bmw are special but i know for a fact they are not as the same tools available for MB have BMW versions, I own the MB star diagnostic xentry/DAS full package capable to diagnose and code all mb/maybach and sprinters from 70's to current ... same as the dealer minus some subscription only features , but I only use it to diagnose pre odb2 models because it comes with the right connectors and occasionally look at the DAS for service info and schematics but it's nothing you can't find online these days but that portion of the STAR is useful, what I use and has about 90% of the same capabilities of the STAR system are the icarsoft mb2 $143 very good and even better the launch x431 @ $160 it's amazing faster than MB star system more practical because it's the size of a phone and it let me perform adaptations/initialization and other advanced programming so no the high end star system is not needed but it does come useful to diagnose pre odb2 mercedes which I own , other than that the launch x431 is all it's needed as the only features missing are those that require a subscription only available to dealers like key fob programming and swapping parts that require vin # matching @@TheStaniG
@@mac2k2020 lol pre-obd2 cars....
Well yeah no shit they wont take much of a scan tool, theyre barely electronic 😂 but everything German north of 2005 or like 2007 and your scantool requirement for german cars starts getting insane, and then adding future proofing on top of that.....
My original comment stands for the age range most people generally pickup these cars in, the 15-20 year old models with electronics integrations everywhere after the turn of the millenium.
Omg stop exaggerating, a compressor replacement is not $3-4k, an OEM compressor is 300-400 dollars, very easy access and a few screws (I think 3) to undo…
I own 2011 mercedes E 350 until right now everything okay..im not really spend my money ..only regular maintenance
Have a close friend that had a ML suv exactly like the one u show, color & all, electric radiator fan went out, about 5yrs ago, damn thing was $1300 just for the part…… I’ve paid less for cheap work cars. Ya I’m good, I’ll keep my old f250 5.4 2valve. Still runs perfect & parts are cheap & it’s easy for me to work on 268k miles & still runs like a top, original engine
If you could show the actual parts or under the hood while your talking I think that would add alot of value
Love your videos bro!!
I appreciate that!
WOW 1st class very kool great info.,, AAAAAAAAAAA+++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.
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ExoticCar PlayPlace Do you guys up in Canada have a "DODGE NOISE POLLUTION" problem😠??? Seems like mostly everyone in Philadelphia pa wants to drive a car with an obnoxiously loud🙉 exhaust, even when it means no extra horsepower🤔🤔🤔.
If so, maybe you could do a video showing cars that were made with cheap turbochargers, that were made with paper thin aluminum. Great video by the way, I tried to own a car that was beyond my wallet ..... that was an expensive and embarrassing lesson I had to learn 🤑🤣🤣
Great idea indeed. I will look into this for sure.
Great video very informative
Thank you very much
Mercedez and BMW is car you lease, not own.
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GREAT INFO 😳
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Thank you Gordon, have an awesome weekend. Cheers
What do think about the CLS 400 is it a good car? I’m looking at a pre owned 2015
Thank you
A disposable car, a drive and dump. At 60K, wash, wax and detail. Park on front lawn. Like a predator, just wait for the prey to ring doorbell.
that exactly what 90% of BMW and MB owners do - even before 60k - right about 40K
@@andrescastro6538 Not really. Highest miles of all brands before junked.
@@martinsvensson6884 - Source? Hard to believe BMW and Mercedes beat Toyota or Honda in terms of highest miles before junked. And even if that were true (which I doubt), how much money had to be pumped into the BMW or Merc for the miles to get that high.
@@martinsvensson6884 I agree BMW has become fairly reliable overall according to all sources these days like consumer reports! People hold onto to them longer then most people think in actuality!
Truth. I may be wrong or inaccurate, but I understand that more than 50% of new BMW are leased, not bought. Drive and dump exactly LOL.
Stay gold.
".....Stationary money pit because most of the time they just sit there at the repair shop..." ( Scotty Kilmer, 2020)....
Hey I am planning to get 2011 to 2013 c class can you recommend which one should i look into and which one should i stay away from. I am confused. i am looking for confort, power and reliability factors in Australia my budget is 15k Australian dollars.
I recently saw an MB AMG S500 for sale for pretty cheap but it was having problems with the air suspension. I think that right there would probably negate the benefits of getting it at such a good price. Beautiful looking car otherwise. And of course the sound of that AMG V8. Great video.
Edited to make it clear I did NOT buy the car.
BG-----You bought a great automobile.
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@@tomburke1687 Whoa, hold on. Who said anything about buying it? I said I saw it for sale, I didn't say anything about buying it - I couldn't afford the upkeep on that thing.
the easy fix is a conversion to struts, they cost a fraction and will have longer lifespan than the airmatic suspension
Everyone told me to avoid Ram trucks, yet my 13 year old truck has never had any of these issues
Crank sensors fail when the engine is hot, rarely fail in cold, usually you wait 30 minutes then the engine starts again.
Yes, when I drive, stop, come out to leave, it then would not restart
@@ECPP Normally I fix all my mercs at a garage near where I live because it's much cheaper than the dealer, but I went to the dealer to replace the crank sensor on my C32 AMG a few weeks ago when I was on a business trip in a city 300 kilometers away. Turned out the price of the crank sensor isn't very high, around $300. An average person can afford that, eh? You only run into the crank sensor issue every 8 years or so. It's like I said people should avoid all models produced in the Dark Ten Years marriage with Chrysler and I think you should tell that to all your followers.
Some of those older diesel Mercedes motors run forever. I would argue that Ford Crown Victorias were the Ford M-B.
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which MB you recommend after 2018, I would like to buy one but I'm undecided .
The early ML-Series was a quick development and did not get good until 2007. I heard they are made by a contractor in Alabama, not Mercedes itself ??????? Also the electronics GO at over 100K.
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Could DFI block the catalytic convertor due to soot buildup??
Air bags?? Land Rovers are famous for these going bad. Luckily the base model new Land Rover 90s, etc.. you can get just normal suspension.
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You are giving confusing information on used Mercedes. I recently saw your video about how one can own a used Mercedes and save thousands. Which one is correct? Thanks
For sure….
Lawd, have mercy on me. I just purchased a used 2012 MB ml350 with 147k miles on it without purchasing a extended warranty on it.
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Learn on UA-cam how to do your own oil changes and maintenance. Find an independent local mechanic to work on it when problems arise. Take care of your car and it will take care of you.
You want a cheap reliable car with luxury trimmings, buy a Toyota Avalon. Preferably after 2012. You want a star on your car, you are going to pay. I had an E Class 350. It wasn't cheap. Awesome ride though. I would love another one.
So If someone wants to buy an old car with a Brand name like Mercedes or BMW, What should He do? Is this a problem with BMW as well?
Well…..
My uncle gave me a 1972 Mercedes 450SL convertible. Spent $8,000 just for oil, brake fluid, transmission fluid changes, brake service and other “minor” repairs.
After that there is always an issue every four months, most are minor but each visit is minimum $1,100.00. Getting rid of it soon
I guess your uncle doesn’t like you…😊
What you think about slk 2504cil ??
great
@@ECPP the problems of that car have any?
I just bought a 2020 Mercedes with 9000K miles. Now I'm hooked and will get another low mileage Mercedes before I accumulate too many miles. It drives like no oter car I've owned.
That rust must be due to salted roads…? My 18 year old W211 (a German Singelfingen built car) has zero rust in Australia where we NEVER use salt. All up the E-Class, German built, has served me well in the W124 and W211 chassis.
it's the paint , mercedes like other car manufacturers in that decade used water based paint so yes if you lived in a cold climate with snow and salty road that will happen, from the w211 on no rust issues
2011 s550 110,350 miles no problems. Natural v8 engine. Sold my 2009 750li way less reliable then Mercedes
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Lexus has 1 computer that controls everything. Mercedes has a separate computer for each function. Audi uses 2 fuel pumps. When one fuel pump goes out, both have to be replaced.
Scrap all the rubber suspension bushings and replace them with brass bushings. Engine mounts are a different story..
ouch
Nice your observations........nice looking cars...............But......?Thanks for your time., for now,I'll stay with Lexus....................
Make a Video of best DIY repair of luxury car
I’m getting mixed messages from this channel.. seeing this from 10months ago and then another video 5 months ago praising the build of Mercedez and that all it needs is keeping up with maintenance and service and it could last longer than a Toyota.. WHICH IS IT?????
It’s all accurate and these cars cost a lot to maintain which is why the neglect can turn them into money pits , but look after it, nothing beats some of these cars for the driving exoeriencr
I currently have seven Mercs, never had any rust problems, I guess they spray salt in Canada in winters, eh?
They do use salt. But I have owned other brands that resist rust much better
@@ECPP Do you mind sharing brands that resist rust much better?
So basically nothing that doesn't occur in a majority of high mileage older vehicles...
Regarding costs who expects to maintain and repair a Mercedes Benz for a cost similar to a Honda?
I come here to feel good about my Acura
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That's why I stay away from German cars. Mercedes and BMW are a pain when it comes to maintenance. Buy Japanese or American.👍
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He is talking about high mileage Mercedes. Any high mileage vehicle will have problems, especially American made. The answer is just not to buy a high mileage vehicle and get rid rid of it before shit happens or just get an aftermarket policy that will pay for repairs. Mercedes makes a fine quality vehicle. My wife and I have owned a lot of Mercedes and never had a problem with any of them. I love MB.
Not more than other cars in the same category.
Americans... ahh
It's tough to go back, because nothing drives as good or gives me the same feeling as a proper M car! Brand new or used with a warranty is the way to go if you own German! Definitely can get expensive unfortunately!
daily driver i buy any old crap. right now we have a 2020 nissan leaf.
summer car i always have american muscle cars. right now i have a 2017 camaro 2ss. cant have a nice expensive car and drive it in winter.
Well said!
Agree,
Thanks
Guess trade in once the warranty runs out
Do you still have the m5?
I certainly do
@@ECPP awesome. Im guessing you got the rod bearings replaced? Keep up the great content buddy
Like all German cars don't buy it used if you can't DIY or have a good mechanic available. German cars are cheap to maintain if you buy your parts from the aftermarket.
as with all modern german cars. over engineered crap.. i have been driving 41 years and never have and never will own any german car. except maybe a porsche 911.
not only do they cost a fortune to run they rust like hell here in sweden
If you buy a used car that used to be expensive when it was new, the maintenance won't be cheap.
my experience is merc is way more reliable than bmw and I have owned in total 4 bmws and 2 mercs over the years
Watching this in my 2008 mercedes e320 bluetec that has a salvage title and 118,000 miles which I got for 6k
Everybody saying lexus I see. Also had a 2007 ls460l sold it with 125,000 had nothing but problems
Not a Lexus?!😲
Never buy 1st year of any model. the ls460 2007 is known for low quality. you should have gotten a 2006 ls430 or 2013 LS460. Do your research. on my 3rd lexus currently.
@@fisephalnoxt yeah looking for a 2015 Ls 460L now
@@rockflock4698 it should be solid. just get a pre purchase inspection by a good mechanic, check suspension. enjoy!
When expensive German cars go bad, it is a money losing experience for the owners. Mercedes used to be cars that were built to last. They were known for quality and innovation.
My takeaway from this video is: NEVER BUY A MERCEDES.
I don’t get the luxury car thing. My net worth is in the seven figures and I love my Toyota Avalons and Supras. Oh. Wait. That’s why my NW is in the seven figures- I don’t follow the Jones’ to the poorhouse. Got it.
You can afford one but you can't afford the repair and maintenance cost.
Yes
I own a 16 year old Mercedes CLK and NONE of these issues, thankfully, have happened to my car. Not sure why he is declaring so much caution on issues that happen to all older vehicles.
Sounds like a good run
When ever I see Mercedes In front of Me goin slow I say dont go fast you might break it lol its only good for 5 years Max
Ouch
Im looking for a 2017 - 2019 e class. Anything I should look out for?
I want so bad to get a used S Class `13. I can do most work on my vehicles but these cars scare me away.
the W221 S CLASS 2013 should be fine since it was the last year of that generation. Just get a pre purchase inspection and stay on top of the maintenance. it's a amazing car.
@@fisephalnoxt thanks man really appreciate the feedback.
“If you can’t afford a brand new one you can’t afford a used one either” -> Does this apply to your Jaguar as well or just to your wife’s Mercedes?
i can attest to reason 1 hahaha!!! good thing i got sources in China. decent assemblies available
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Right right right please don’t buy one, thanks for your sing, let their price drop