Fixing the MCU Multiverse Saga

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @Benlovescheese
    @Benlovescheese 3 місяці тому +28

    Wandavision was the only show that worked as a show- it wouldnt work as a movie parodying TV- the format would be very confusing

  • @RobertDownySenior
    @RobertDownySenior 3 місяці тому +121

    How to fix. Don’t rely on cheap nostalgia instead of an actual interesting and coherent plot

    • @pupulauls
      @pupulauls 3 місяці тому +28

      Counterpoint: Deadpool and Wolverine just passed $1 Billion at the box office. Very entertaining movie but the plot was paper thin.

    • @RobertDownySenior
      @RobertDownySenior 3 місяці тому +10

      @@pupulauls it was supposed to be a love letter to the fox films but the main cameo was blade who wasn’t even a fox character and honestly if they were gonna do a cameo fest why not bring back the old X-men and work them into the plot for it to actually be a love letter to those films

    • @BoldDude951
      @BoldDude951 3 місяці тому +2

      Ok? But how would you make it interesting and coherent

    • @ValluriViswanadham
      @ValluriViswanadham 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@RobertDownySenior*loveletter to early 2k marvel movies who paved ways for mc7 now mSHEu

    • @CloxxyCobraKai
      @CloxxyCobraKai 3 місяці тому +4

      @@RobertDownySeniorthe movie wasn't a masterpiece but it was what it was supposed to be, fun and funny, the movie was good and the cameos actually had some sort of relation to the plot

  • @RomaroBrandon
    @RomaroBrandon 2 місяці тому +3

    I've been saying from the beginning the best way to do the multiverse saga is by making more content outside of the 616 Universe. Deadpool and Wolverine is a perfect example because it does the opposite of Multiverse of Madness, being set mainly in the Fox Universe (more accurately using Marvel characters previously owned by 20th Century Fox) with a few appearances on Earth 616. MoM did the exact with the majority of the film taking place on Earth 616 and only a few scenes taking place on different Earths in the multiverse. It also didn't help to kill off the Illuminati or Superior Strange because there is no longer a reason to care about their universe.
    IMO Blade, Cloak & Dagger, Eternals, Fantastic 4, InHumans, the Netflix series, Ms Marvel, The Runaways, and X-Men all should all be set on different Earths and not connected to Earth 616 until the next two Avengers movies where all the universes came come together and fight Kang because they can easily recast him. All the other projects can still happen on Earth 616 but don't break into the multiverse until the beginning of Kang Dynasty.

  • @MartinMarsano
    @MartinMarsano 2 місяці тому +2

    Why don't you want Kang to be the big bad? He deserves it. He shouldn't be remembered as a young avengers villain. He should be remembered as an AVENGERS villain. Just because Doom is cool, it doesn't mean that Kang should be sidelined like this.

  • @UnifiedShined
    @UnifiedShined 3 місяці тому +2

    This would been way better than the multiverse saga we got. Also I feel like marvel just simply forgot about incursions they never mentioned it except quantumania,after watching Deadpool 3 It’s like that important rule is forgot

  • @CM1_SonicAndOtherStuff
    @CM1_SonicAndOtherStuff 3 місяці тому +23

    I love how you did this! I personally don't think the mcu needs much fixing, although things like eternals, moonnight, and she hulk were meh. But I love how you handled it, especially when you brought in the young avengers.

    • @iraford5788
      @iraford5788 3 місяці тому +2

      Agreed.

    • @UnionJack-k7x
      @UnionJack-k7x 3 місяці тому +1

      Agreed but they all had good potential

    • @joelgeorge6203
      @joelgeorge6203 3 місяці тому +5

      Wtf
      Moonknight was good

    • @CM1_SonicAndOtherStuff
      @CM1_SonicAndOtherStuff 3 місяці тому +1

      @@joelgeorge6203 it was confusing and boring imo.

    • @invertedLOL
      @invertedLOL Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for saying this. There is a lot of meh in phase 5 and 6, enough to have made me kind of tune out the MCU, but people saying the MCU is inherently flawed, or the weird wave of people pretending like it’s always been bad for some reason, need to just step back. Doing that has brought me a lot better of a perspective on the MCU. It doesn’t need fixed, it just needs to let its fans breathe.

  • @Rock-Child
    @Rock-Child 3 місяці тому +16

    Agree on most of this. But I would make a 6th captain America movie, have there be a definitive new big three, and less projects

    • @LewisFanFiction
      @LewisFanFiction  3 місяці тому +2

      Fairs!

    • @Rock-Child
      @Rock-Child 3 місяці тому

      @@LewisFanFiction I like your ideas, just I doesn’t feel like you didn’t do enough. Like, maybe have Spider-Man, Captain America and Captain Marvel be the new Trio, and maybe combine Echo and Dardevil: Born Again and have it be two seasons.

  • @vx11135
    @vx11135 3 місяці тому +11

    "A lot of shows should've been movies, especially Wandavision. That is the dumbest take I have ever heard. Wandavision relies on and thrives in the serialised format. Love the rest of the video though

    • @LewisFanFiction
      @LewisFanFiction  3 місяці тому +1

      Thats a fair point I forgot about that lmao. Still think that about Falcon and the Winter Soldier / Ms Marvel tho and a few others.

  • @GrandAdmiralShanahan
    @GrandAdmiralShanahan 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m lazy, just have Galactus eat timelines and the Xmen and Fantastic Four and Venom and x-23 and DeadPoole and Logan all seek refuge on 616.

  • @minislayer3241
    @minislayer3241 3 місяці тому +4

    You see, I think, making a "Multiverse Saga" now was just a bit too early. There're a lot of stories and characters within the current MCU to be explored and expanded on, so rushing the whole Multiverse thing right now was just too early. Especially because of how little it was explored and represented so far.

  • @Benlovescheese
    @Benlovescheese 3 місяці тому

    An absolute point in time is also the concept most people are familiar with so absolute points in time would make so much more sense as 'the only rule' than anything else as many understand what that means from other movies.

  • @elijahprester7167
    @elijahprester7167 3 місяці тому

    I honestly would love for you to continue the rewriting the MCU if they had all of their characters.

  • @jagdeishwarmagendran3395
    @jagdeishwarmagendran3395 3 місяці тому +1

    Maybe add a Temporal Saga to bring back Kang with a different Kang variant and a new story which does not resolve around the Multiverse.

  • @Sp0ver16
    @Sp0ver16 3 місяці тому

    I think like in the infinity saga they should end each phase with some sort of avengers movie it doesn’t have to be with everyone just so we can lead up to the bigger team up like doomsday and secret war without everyone being strangers

  • @alexiskingofthejungle
    @alexiskingofthejungle 3 місяці тому +6

    Redone Multiverse Saga:
    Phase 4:
    WandaVision
    Shang-Chi
    Captain America 4
    Hawkeye
    Spider-Man: No Way Home
    Ms. Marvel
    Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
    Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness
    She-Hulk
    Avengers: Under Siege
    Phase 5:
    Loki
    Asgardians of The Galaxy
    The Marvels
    Ant-Man and The Wasp: The Kang Dynasty
    Loki Season 2
    Captain America 5
    Daredevil: Born Again
    The Young Avengers
    Thor: Love and Thunder
    Phase 6:
    Fantastic Four: First Steps
    Spider-Man: Blue
    Agatha All Along
    Thunderbolts
    The Doom Chronicles
    Shang-Chi and The Wreckage of Space
    Doctor Strange: Triumph of Time
    Avengers: Doomsday
    The Doom Chronicles Season 2
    Deadpool and Wolverine
    Avengers: Secret Wars
    Spider-Man: Black
    Daredevil: Born Again Season 2

    • @MaximeLeTripleBG
      @MaximeLeTripleBG 3 місяці тому

      What would be the third saga ?

    • @alexiskingofthejungle
      @alexiskingofthejungle 3 місяці тому +2

      @@MaximeLeTripleBG Mutant Saga:
      Phase 7:
      X-MEN: First Class
      The Immortal Hulk
      Wolverine
      Spider-Man: Red
      Black Panther: Conquest
      X-MEN: Second Genesis
      Captain America: Stars and Strife
      Magneto and the Brotherhood
      X-MEN: United
      Iron Man: Armor Wars
      Phase 8:
      Nova Corps
      X-MEN: Galactic Storm
      Fantastic Four: Lost Kingdom
      Blade
      X-MEN: Mutant Massacre
      Daredevil: Born Again Season 3
      Moon Knight
      X-MEN: Dark Phoenix
      The Marvels: Going Rogue
      Phase 9:
      Lifedeath
      Wolverine Season 2
      X-MEN: New Mutants
      Deadpool on Broadway
      Rogue & Gambit
      X-MEN: Savage Hearts
      Iron Man: Silver Lining
      Spider-Man: Strength
      Ghost Rider
      X-MEN: Days of Future Past
      Avengers VS. X-MEN

    • @MaximeLeTripleBG
      @MaximeLeTripleBG 3 місяці тому

      @@alexiskingofthejungle Are you going to do it ???

    • @alexiskingofthejungle
      @alexiskingofthejungle 3 місяці тому

      @@MaximeLeTripleBG Make a video? I wish, I may in the future and make my own MCU what if marvel had all the rights video

    • @MaximeLeTripleBG
      @MaximeLeTripleBG 3 місяці тому

      @@alexiskingofthejungle Okay

  • @velociraptor4you3291
    @velociraptor4you3291 3 місяці тому +2

    I hope at least _someone_ at Disney and Marvel Studios is watching this (👏).

  • @Comics_Central
    @Comics_Central 3 місяці тому +1

    I don’t really think the multiverse saga needs a lot of fixing, as I’ve enjoyed most of what they’ve put out. There is a couple points I’d change, I’d have the rules line be consistent throughout. My other fix would be that most of the shows would work as movies.

  • @mailyak442
    @mailyak442 3 місяці тому

    I’m kinda enjoying most of their recent projects 🙈

  • @laverniustucker8198
    @laverniustucker8198 3 місяці тому +2

    Could you do a mutant saga video based on what we know from DP&W, Doomsday, and Secret Wars?

  • @Pikatwig16
    @Pikatwig16 3 місяці тому

    I feel like "Canon Events" is something that wouldn't really need to be changed, given how the Spider-Verse movies are only tangentially connected to the MCU. Plus, we also know they aren't an exact science (if that makes sense).

  • @mailyak442
    @mailyak442 3 місяці тому

    6:02 THATS MY FAVOURITE COMIC 😍🥳

  • @RTWC269
    @RTWC269 3 місяці тому

    One thing I would do is cut some projects that don’t add anything such as she hulk,secret invasion, eternals, and instead have more continuity between projects such as have other characters from other projects have a role in these projects to keep the story going

  • @TheEternalBlackHole
    @TheEternalBlackHole 3 місяці тому +2

    Two things I would like a comment on: Firstly is that without the introduction of anchor beings, there would be no reason for Deadpool’s timeline to be decaying and for Paradox to try and prune his timeline. What would be your new explanation within this new MCU multiverse saga you’ve proposed? And secondly… no Thor? 😢 I know his 4th flick wasn’t the best, but still :/ (kinda joking but I do love Chris Hemsworth lol)

    • @LewisFanFiction
      @LewisFanFiction  3 місяці тому +2

      Instead of there being no “anchor being”, the TVA in the wake off the sacred timeline being split, will be trying to get rid of as many of these timelines as possible. One of them will be Deadpools.
      And yeahhhh I know, I couldn’t figure out where to place Thor really. I’d assume he’d still be kicking about tho somewhere!

  • @snookerdooker471
    @snookerdooker471 3 місяці тому +1

    Here’s how I would fix it.
    First, swap black widow and Spider-Man far from home releasing a movie that takes place after endgame so soon after endgame was stupid and far from home was the third or fourth mention of the multiverse so it should start with something like that wandavision should end with Wanda turning to the dark side then falcon and the winter soldier as a movie then Loki season one then Shang chi and eternals as a show(I know the movie has so many plot holes especially ones with thanos then Hawkeye and since far from home got move it will happen after this is the movies and shows that don’t do anything with the multiverse except ms marvel that will be released the same year as the marvels and after the marvels is avengers Secret Invasion then Spider-Man no way home then multiverse of madness and what if with Loki season 2 and ant man and the wasp quantumania to set up kang this will then lead into fantastic four which will set up doctor doom and show him destroying the council of kangs in a post credit scene. Note anything I didn’t mention that’s not multiverse related will be in phase four or phase five before secret invasion like armor wars daredevil born again etc I am just fixing the structure of the multiverse saga not giving the bad movies full rewrites I believe that phase four and five shouldn’t have done random stuff on and off about what is related to the multiverse post endgame and stuff.

  • @GrandAdmiralShanahan
    @GrandAdmiralShanahan 3 місяці тому

    They way I would make Ms Marvel and She Hulk relavant is have them join a Hawkeye founded West Coast Avengers series. Hawkeye can recruit YoYo from Agents of Shield and Kate Bishop of course, and White Vison and Ghost Rider can also find a home here and they can fight Clint’s past Ronan that may catch up to him. They can deal with an Irrational Namor once. This would be a great west coast series to me. Because they do so much in New York. Especially with Daredevil and hopefully the defenders again

    • @LewisFanFiction
      @LewisFanFiction  3 місяці тому

      That could’ve been a way of incorporating them

  • @The_Vizo
    @The_Vizo 3 місяці тому

    Yess. This what needs to be happening.

  • @ahmadstewasamlrt2202
    @ahmadstewasamlrt2202 3 місяці тому +3

    Can you make a pitch on what if the X-Men were a CW TV show

  • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
    @ShockwaveFPSStudios 3 місяці тому +3

    If I did my own Multiverse Saga, I would’ve just removed Deadpool & Wolverine from the Multiverse Saga and just release it as it’s sound thing. Now to clarify, The movie will still be the same and it will still have the plot, as well as the same characters and everything. it’s just that much like X-Men 97, it’s not considered part of the MCU Multiverse Saga in terms of release… as it’s released as its own standalone movie. I would also remove the What If Series from the Multiverse as I have this biased philosophy where the MCU should be live action only, and just make the What If series what if scenarios of marvel cartoons that everyone loved or hate, like what if Ultron Won in Avengers EMH, or What If MODOK lost his family at the start of the MODOK series, or what if Iron Man from Armored Adventures met the NAS Spider-Man voiced by Neil Patrick Harris.

  • @T3aseW1thease
    @T3aseW1thease 3 місяці тому +7

    Also can you make an MCU X-Men pitch or a How you would do the Mutant Saga? like what characters would you use, Stories that you would adapt and villains/teams that you would do. to me the first MCU X-Men Movie should focus on Cyclops and Jean with Mr Sinister and the Hellfire Club being the main villains with Kitty Pryde and Iceman both being our introduction into the Mutant World like how Rogue was in the Fox Movies well atleast at first. the Second Movie should would/should include Wolverine, Nightcrawler and Morph as a few of the new characters with Magneto and the Brotherhood of Mutants being the main villain (Rogue would also be a villain but by the end of the Movie she would join the team). the third Movie would largely focus on Rogue feeling like she doesnt belong on the team, the film would include characters like Gambit and Magik with Bastion being the main villain and Emma frost joining the team. Kitty would also enter a relationship with Iceman who after the third film would go Join Peter aka Spider-Man in Spider-Man and The Amazing Friends team-up movie. the Big three of the Mutant Saga would be Cyclops, Wolverine and Storm and the second version of Big three Includes Kitty Pryde, Iceman and Rogue. to summary this is I would handle the X-Men trilogy in a brief description.

  • @Deadpool-mcu2024
    @Deadpool-mcu2024 25 днів тому

    Just make Nexus Events and Canon Events/Absolute Points in time the rule. If you cause a Canon Event (if you prevent one small moment that is supposed to and should happen), it can destroy your timeline but if you cause a Nexus Event (if you do something that is not supposed to happen) the moment you did it will be separated from the main timeline and could possibly collide with other timelines. Also i dont like the fact that all these universes (Spider-Man, X-Men, etc.) exist after the events of Loki Season 1 and 2 when these franchises already exist it doesn't make any sense to me.

  • @mailyak442
    @mailyak442 3 місяці тому +3

    8:03 😮 NOOOOOOOOO WandaVision was the greatest weekly release experience of my LIFE - had to be a show cmonnn

    • @ratten09
      @ratten09 6 днів тому

      Can it be a show and a film? Even releasing in theaters? Each episode releasing weekly or Disney plus can be like early access and after all the episodes are out they can combine all of them to release in theatres if that's even possible lol. I just feel like Wandavision should have been seen by a lot of people and that would only work if it was some sort of film so people can understand Multiverse Of madness

  • @hosaepalvin9795
    @hosaepalvin9795 3 місяці тому

    it really feels like that kevin feige, unfortunately, just feels marvel should continue throwing stuff at the wall (because it worked for them when it needed to) when marvel should take advantage of the the fact that it is a connected universe and people now definitely understand it.

  • @srstriker6420
    @srstriker6420 3 місяці тому

    Speaking of Deadpool and Wolverine I think that they should have used Madcap as the villain as he was a more personal threat to Wade as his healing power is far superior to both Wade and Logan and he was rumoured to be played by Jim Carry

  • @T3aseW1thease
    @T3aseW1thease 3 місяці тому +9

    pretty much agree with everything you said except the Young Avengers part. they are and Im not overexaggerating one of the most boring Marvel teams ever. most of the members besides Kate Bishop and Speed are really boring/bland and they only really have one good story aka The Children's Crusade.

  • @parker.e
    @parker.e 3 місяці тому

    I think canon events are the same as absolute points so i like that whole thing. I kinda hate the idea of an anchor being tho cuz thats really confusing and dumb

  • @adrianthearmorwarrior1605
    @adrianthearmorwarrior1605 3 місяці тому +1

    Better yet, don't have Kang be the next villain. Have The Masters of Evil be the villains instead.

    • @MartinMarsano
      @MartinMarsano 2 місяці тому

      Kang deserves to be a big bad. Have you ever read the comics?

    • @Deadpool-mcu2024
      @Deadpool-mcu2024 25 днів тому

      Bro you don't even know Kang

  • @anubusx
    @anubusx 3 місяці тому

    Arishem died on the way back to his planet.

  • @eliafouad756
    @eliafouad756 3 місяці тому +3

    Finnaly the perfect Multiverse Saga rewrite!

  • @CalicoEvrywerigo
    @CalicoEvrywerigo 3 місяці тому +1

    Recast #SinisterCavill making Superman the scariest thing to mutantkind in the multiverse

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 3 місяці тому

    Great job man

  • @anubusx
    @anubusx 3 місяці тому

    I hate the idea of Anchor Beings.

  • @edrianraneses5864
    @edrianraneses5864 3 місяці тому

    BTW about your what if Peter Parker married Gwen Stacy video like is it next like you said "almost there"? when man?

    • @LewisFanFiction
      @LewisFanFiction  3 місяці тому +1

      A few major changes have been made so it’s been pushed back. Will be out soon

    • @edrianraneses5864
      @edrianraneses5864 3 місяці тому

      @@LewisFanFiction 👍

  • @juliusjean-baptiste924
    @juliusjean-baptiste924 26 днів тому

    The multiverse saga was too ambitious for Marvel and too grand. They messed up with the multiverse, they established Kang and now they want to establish Doom? They're too deep in the multiverse saga to ignore that.They introduce new heroes that don't necessarily move the main plot of the big bad forward. We're missing an Avengers film. We're missing a new core 3 just like Iron Man, Cap, and Thor were the 3 that started it all. They tried to establish Sam-Cap, Captain Marvel, and Spider-Man as the next leaders of the Avengers. Yet there's no cohesiveness within main storyline. Like how come Secret Invasion wasn't an Avengers film? Fury in Secret Invasion was very different from the Fury in the Marvels and moving around release dates kind of hurt matters also.

  • @aunknownspecies4153
    @aunknownspecies4153 3 місяці тому +3

    See you was doing great but you lost me when you said you would scrap Moon Knight

    • @LewisFanFiction
      @LewisFanFiction  3 місяці тому

      I’d want to keep it around but it has no relevance in the overall story.

    • @aunknownspecies4153
      @aunknownspecies4153 3 місяці тому +1

      @@LewisFanFiction that’s the point every Show or tv needs no relevance to the overall story you need something for people to watch that isn’t tied to the overall story or instead of just completely removing moon knight make him a part of the street level story in a small way you could have his show come out than a episode in daredevil born again where he shows up and says bushman bushman his ex partner works or worked for kingpin or something

    • @LewisFanFiction
      @LewisFanFiction  3 місяці тому +1

      @@aunknownspecies4153 Thats true! Moon Knight would work like that

  • @Gabriel-wi7bx
    @Gabriel-wi7bx 2 місяці тому

    SPOILERS but i saw a clip that said earth 616 merges with earth 1610 which is miles morales' universe.

  • @WithFearGaming
    @WithFearGaming 3 місяці тому

    I would not have made Wandavision a movie, Wandavision was perfect under the show format

  • @abdoulaziz3468
    @abdoulaziz3468 3 місяці тому

    Great video

  • @Deadpool-mcu2024
    @Deadpool-mcu2024 3 місяці тому

    Thank you now I'm gonna play every bone in your body except one.

  • @DarkBowserr
    @DarkBowserr 3 місяці тому

    I feel like the disney+ shows contributed to the over-saturation and fatigue of mcu content.

  • @mitchellcolgin
    @mitchellcolgin 3 місяці тому

    Why scrap moonknight?

    • @Chronic41745
      @Chronic41745 3 місяці тому

      That’s what I’m saying

  • @GrandAdmiralShanahan
    @GrandAdmiralShanahan 3 місяці тому

    No need for Young avengers or Shang chi 2. Everything else is fine.

  • @ssoulvetica
    @ssoulvetica 3 місяці тому

    It's too early for multiverse stuff

  • @SsickMusic
    @SsickMusic 3 місяці тому

    What a mess

  • @OOOjordy545
    @OOOjordy545 3 місяці тому +1

    This guy thinks the young avengers will beat kang pfff

    • @LewisFanFiction
      @LewisFanFiction  3 місяці тому +1

      He.. he’s literally been a young avengers villain in the comics

  • @laverniustucker8198
    @laverniustucker8198 3 місяці тому +1

    A lot people like She-Hulk and Moon knight, and want more

    • @LewisFanFiction
      @LewisFanFiction  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah but they don’t add to the overall story

    • @omarslayz
      @omarslayz 3 місяці тому

      i’ve never seen anyone like She-hulk whatsoever

    • @laverniustucker8198
      @laverniustucker8198 3 місяці тому

      @@omarslayz and yet, a lot of people do

    • @omarslayz
      @omarslayz 3 місяці тому

      @@laverniustucker8198 if you say so!

  • @-Siddarth-
    @-Siddarth- 3 місяці тому

    Xxx

  • @chrisdash5917
    @chrisdash5917 3 місяці тому +1

    Awesome Video Of Fixing The MCU Multiverse Sega 💛💙❤️💙🤍💚