City of San Diego passes homeless encampment ban
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2023
- The San Diego City Council moved forward Tuesday with its final vote to approve the City’s “Unsafe Camping Ordinance,” which bans tent encampments in certain public areas of the city.
Less than two hours into the meeting, public comment wrapped up and the new rules were passed with several city council members registering a “no” vote.
“It is legally, practically, and morally not the right thing for us to do at this time,” said Council President pro Tem Monica Montgomery.
She joined Councilmembers Moreno and Lee, along with Council President Elo-Rivera, in voting no. Councilmember Whitburn and four others on the dais, however, continued their support for the new rules.
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What’s actually controversial is that things have gotten so out of hand in the first place.
facts. they don't want to live in shelters. they don't want help. all they want is drugs drugs drugs and drugs. they don't give a shit. what they truly need is to get a JOB...and WORK.....start there.
This is what happens when you kill the middle class. Those greedy mfers wanted all the money to themselves now they complain about the consequences of their actions.
It was by plan, soon to homeless will be against the law nation wide. They will be rounded up and taken to camps. Sound familiar. WW2.
Yeah, but you were one of those people the rather kill everybody on the streets so you can have a nicer neighborhood fucking Nazi
And still. raising property taxes, they just raised mine
They will never admit it was their policies that caused this in the first place.
Specifically what policies?
@@Moriningland Paying people to be homeless. Giving them handouts without any requirements for recovery (job searches, drug tests, etc).
Criminalize landlords instead of criminalizing homelessness. Mandatory rent controls are the answer.
@@guessundheit6494 People have rights over their private property. You can't mandate rent on behalf of another person.
@@vegetta00 Clearly you've never heard of nor can grasp the concept of governments imposing price controls on products.
The last time I went to SD will be my last until this problem is solved. So sad because it is such a beautiful city, but this is happening to many beautiful cities in the US. Letting people live on the streets is not the answer.
K bye
You’re correct, they should be given emergency housing and a social services system to help them maneuver the horrendously expensive system in order to move forward. Instead we just shuffle them from one city to the other and listen to shallow people put them down as if they are less than human. Late stage capitalism is great, ain’t it?
@@kris6051two things can be true at the same time. Ppl should not live in tents on public streets full stop, and they should be offered help and housing.
@@GierigerFisch I am fine with giving them homeless shelters and mabe a job and watch them carefully they dont do foolish stuff. and mabe when he or she slowly becomes better then that be good. well hopefully
Almost like there's too many people on the planet
What they really fail to acknowledge is that none of these people want housing... They just want to do drugs in a tent next to KFC. It's no secret that these people don't want help. They will straight up tell you NO if you were to offer them a job 😂 its quite pathetic how misunderstood this problem is...
You can't begin to help them correct their primary needs like housing and getting a job if their problems aren't first corrected. For some that's mental health and for others it's alcohol or drug abuse. I tried to help a friend once and figured out very quickly that it's not worth it until they put the effort to fix themselves first.
They don't want housing. All what they want is to live their sickening life in the streets, without rules, without commitments, with drugs and the rest. They want to live in the streets where their dopehead friends are. They don't want jobs, because they hate rules, obligations. They want just handouts from the government, shoplift, dope, sleep on sidewalks, trash parks, use drugs as if there was not tomorrow. To live the loca life.
you could offer these trash humans a mercedes and a mansion and they would still be dirty drug induced trash, you cant help these people, send them to slab city.
Doing drugs and eating fried chicken is less damaging to your body and soul than working more than full time and sleeping 4 or 5 hours per day for years on end while accumulating no savings, no wife, no kids,nothing! Fuck the urban job market until the cost of living drops low enough for average people to both do their work and get enough sleep and social/romantic interaction to biologically function and reproduce.
Living as a single, poverty stricken,freindless and childless workerbee is a misuse of ones personal energy and resources at an animal level... it is the modern day equivalent of becoming a palace eunuch for a bowl of rice!
to say no homeless person wants housing is wildly ignorant and a pretty sizable generalization.
I worked DIRECTLY IN THE MIDDLE of these homeless before, during, and after the pandemic in DTSD; 90% of these people are drug addicts who gave up on everything in their life to continue to use drugs. This is a drug problem, not a homeless problem. I literally had to work around these people, walking in literal piles of feces EVERYWHERE, piss soaked everything, needles EVERYWHERE, people literally shitting right in front of me in the streets and parking lots with zero discretion. Meanwhile, kids are walking around with their parents who just want to get to the bus or train stop, or just to get back into their apartment. I literally compared it to the Walking Dead, as most these people completely ignore their reality because they are so high they can't even compute it. Sad, but not acceptable at all. This is a DRUG PROBLEM, NOT A HOMELESS PROBLEM. Mental illness is second.
Thank you, for the work that you do with these people.
I'm curious about a few things, if you could answer that would be awesome.
Did they all come from that area or are they coming from other parts of the United?
Where did they get the money to buy drugs?
Why don't they go after the drug dealers?Why are they not building more mental health hospitals ?
So build the WALL??!!! we all know where most drugs come from...
@jakenuno You are absolutely CORRECT! Most of these people want HAND OUTS NOT HAND UPS! I’ve seen it first hand! Let those 30 people protesting with their signs go and see all the needles, bongs and other drug paraphernalia littering the areas they are living in; not to mention the human waste. YOU CANNOT HELP PEOPLE THAT ARE COMFORTABLE AND LOVE THEIR DYSFUNCTION! SMH!
I will side you on this one. You are indeed correct! I have volunteered in a few places like The Rescue Mission LA.
While there, i noticed that those waiting at intake were given a list of policies and rules that the facility had in order for them to have a bed there. The reason why many would rather camp outside of that building was because they could get free food and sometimes clothing, without having to leave their addiction behind.
I honestly believe that mental insitutions need to be brought back. I know it may sound cruel but gathering up all the homeless and putting them in one would be a big step in beginning rehabilition.
We should seal the borders completely and honestly it may sound crazy but maybe a special military operation of some sorts
Those politician live nowhere near the homeless encampments. Send the homeless to their neighborhoods and let’s see what they think
Or send them to George Soros’ house in his ritzy NYC suburb.
More cities should follow this law. If you think this is horrible just let the homeless setup camps in front of your home.
It might not be constitutional that’s why
@noirekuroraigami2270 The Constitution does NOT give people the right to appropriate themselves to somebody ELSE's property. Shanty-towns should have never been allowed by these corrupt cities in the first place and now that the problem is completely out of hand it will be fascinating to see how they're going to clean it up. So many laws and city-ordinances went unenforced in the name of tolerating this crap in the first place.
If you think abortions should be illegal, let unwanted babies stay in your home. DUH
Lmao to be fair I think there should be a law against charging 2k for a one bedroom apartment as well. The older generation was much worse they just didn’t have boot lickers letting landlords run wild with prices. If you have kids it’s highly likely they will sleep in a tent city in your life time.
@@yackawaytube abortion = murder.. but how would you know, you already been born..
I hope it will start a domino effect across this state, we desperately need measures like this to get people off the streets including for their own safety and well being.
Except they won’t do anything
See "Occubpy Democrat". They will block it with paid off judges.
Where are you going to put them, in the woods? Horse manure 58% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. "Drugs" and "mental illness" are just fairy tales we tell ourselves to pretend it won't happen to us someday.
"we desperately need measures like this to get people off the streets including for their own safety and well being" But they are homeless! Just banning a camp for homeless doesn't negate the fact that they are homeless! It is like when someone say "I am poor", and the gov banned ramen noodles for concern of their own well being and safety because ramen noodle are not healthy! Did that make sense to you?
Are they now welcome at your house? 😂 They are going somewhere in the area. They won't disappear and to think otherwise is delusional.
The funny thing is you know all 30 of those people who showed up to call everybody evil people for voting on the ban would never give up any space of their home for a homeless person.
I understand. The hypocrisy is so disheartening.
A friend of ours used to serve in a church in a bad neighborhood during the BLM riots in STL. At a protest, where protesters walked down the streets of their bad neighborhood(North STL), she asked them if they would come live with them in the neighborhood, that their community is good but everyone needs help. All she got in response were stares and shocked faces. Why would anyone want to live among impoverished people, but are willing to protest for cameras? No one really cares, but the ones that do are the ones that are present.
I have personally a lot but it’s not a good idea cuz they can mistreat you. Better off just not.. if they want help, they will get it when in dire need for change
True
And you know this for a fact?
@@AlexBobalexRavenclawI wouldn't quite jump to hypocrisy. I mean, we don't even know these people. We don't know what they would do or be willing to do.
Thank you Bill Walton for pushing this issue to the front of the NATIONAL MEDIA
And thanks also for being a part of the great Celtics teams of the 80s.
He won a chip with portland too. Lol
One time I was biking in San Diego lost and Bill Walton pulls up on a bike and led me to where I was going. Great guy!
@@UlyssesTalbothe was on many other stations also
YEAH amazing he took such a stance especially being a flaming liberal.
There has to be a better way to handle homelessness than letting people do whatever they want. Letting people do whatever they want is anarchy.
Oh, it’s very simple. Stop spending money on other countries and put our peoples needs first, but that will never happen because that doesn’t get votes..
Let’s see how about make houses that don’t cost 3 million for a freaking condo
peasants gonna peasant, homeless or not, nobody wins with all this but the rich
@@slapshotjack9806lol there are plenty not in California 😂 most other places you can get an apartment for 800 to 1400 easily
@@dylanstevely1443 where? I’d love to know where you could even get a decent apartment that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg every month
One of my spouses relatives is homeless and went into a shelter. He has no substance abuse issues and doesn't steal and was quickly moved from crappy shelter to a family type shelter and then to a one bedroom apartment in a monitored building. He said there is plenty of space but most people are on drugs and not willing to get off so opt to stay on the streets. Society should help people on drugs get help to get off, but we shouldn't let vibrant downtowns being turned into drug infested tent cities full of crime by people unwilling to take steps to improve their situation. CA does have the issue that they have tolerated homelesses to the point where they became a magnet for it and now doesn't have the shelter capacity to deal with it or more importantly help the ones that are actually not drug addicts or dealing with severe mental health issues.
A commenter above emphasized thst this is a drug problem above all else.
Umm going to break your idealist bubble here about society should help people on drugs. HEre's a reality: there are MULTIPLE places private and state or local govt funded centers for substance rehabilliation!!! If the druggie DOESN'T want to change, it doesn't matter how nice or fully staffed those centers are!!!! Many of those druggies don't want to change!!! (yes, I work in the MH field for nearly 2 decades)
@@rayparas2974 I wasn't advocating for more programs or anything like that. I was saying the programs are there in most places and that we can't allow those opting not to go into them to destroy society with their behavior. To protect society and really help those we need to keep those programs in place going. We don't need to allow people unwilling to use them to destroy society and/or setup housing that allows them to continue to use.
You have no idea how many “neighbors” think I’m over exaggerating about the tents popping up all over San Diego, let alone across the block. Some people are so dense and so politically charged, that they refuse the reality they’ve created. I literally, walked up and filmed a small tent “village” and brought said evidence to one of my neighbors. Guess what? They claimed that I plucked it off the internet and called it fake. Second time, I do a complete voice over, filmed the actual street corners, and framed myself in the shots. Guess what happened?
They refused to watch it. They stormed back to their house and just laughed about how I’m so easily mislead by fake news...
Strange how karma works though. Their Telsa got broken into while they parked outside of their garage, which is against our HOA policies... welp!
What they need to do is build more buildings and ship the homeless back to the states they came from - a lot of other places give them free bus tickets/money to go to places like NY and Cali instead of taking care of their own problems.
Sounds like a dumbass Libtard lol
sounds like your neighbor is special
What’s the point? Just do your own thing and protect your family instead 🤷♂️
Yep like time I told lib tard family about joe being a pedo on video multiple times “oh those videos are doctored. He’s an angel”!
So the politicians that voted against it Let the homeless encampment go up in there neighborhoods
The problems are with our voting culture/system. These rubbish politicians are afraid to lose votes and being hypocrite when it comes to issues such as homelessness. The disingenuous kindness displayed by these rubbish career politician are ruining our cities and our way of lives.
I'm sure they would view them with the same contempt they'd view you. Get off your high horse, you're not exactly desirable neighborhood material, vato.
Must be great being able to afford a place to live.
Indeed
@LigerRed you say it like we got our places for free. We all work and worked very hard to have a roof over our heads. Its time we ask everyone to contribute to our society rather than take endlessly
Thank the Lord; maybe we can get this throughout California. If your not in favor of this, open up your home and house some of the homeless.
That’s not a good idea because one day you’ll leave for work then the next day your house is trashed and all your valuables are gone
Why not build shelters?
@@derranlawston4052 There's so much pushback by residents every time a shelter gets planned. No one wants to live near one because they claim it creates crime in the area. In my state of Idaho this isn't true it actually reduced crime in the area but some people are just terrible humans.
you californians deserve this lmao, keep voting blue.
I have housed homeless freinds 2 or three times when i was in my 20s, and even got kicked out of one of my apartments for doing so! I dont believe that being homeless should be illegal! 50 % of americans are a paycheck or two away from becoming homeless themselves... you may be the one who is next if your health goes bad or your boss is downsizing...
love it!! we need this everywhere in california.. Guys remember these people don’t like rules or structure they have shelters but they won’t stay there because there are rules like no drugs or alcohol
… There use to be a homeless shelter in the town I live at. Homeless folks had to be inside by 10pm, but they would come in drunk or high, causing problems. The shelter changed & people had to sign-in BEFORE 6pm, if they wanted a meal & bed to sleep - the doors shut & locked up at 6pm. If someone was drunk or high, they were refused shelter. If fights broke out, got kicked out. That was the best rule - it worked w/positive results.
You love the fact the people who can't afford a $1500 monthly rent and don't want to live in a literal concentration camp are being with imprisonment?
You're a Fascist and you're an Idiot.
She really said “unhoused people” like she can’t say homeless
I prefer “people experiencing being unhoused.”
when your income is less than your rent, you have no HOUSE. It directs the attention to the housing situation, rather than HOME which suggests "belonging" and non belonging, and has historical meanings that make society make judgements about a person, rather than the fact that they need a house.
@@thinkforyourself518 homeless does well enough without all that extra shit you’re talking about. At the end of the day you’re on the street and homeless. Not everyone in a home owns it. Let’s be real no one says aprtmentless or rentless you’re fucking homeless
Being without a house does not mean you are homeless. A home can be a car, tent, cavern, ect. Why do people have to be forced to live in expensive houses to live?
Most of them are more accurately called “street people” because they chose their life of drugs and crime over have a stable home.
What's horrible is not involuntarily hospitalizing the mentally ill, and not locking up those who break the law.
Liberal activist judges made it nearly impossible for loved-ones to hospitalize their loved ones against their will. That nonsense started many decades ago, which corresponded with an increase in crime and incarcerations nationally.
Well that's a majority of them so....who is going to pay for that? You do realize that $ will come out of schools, roads, infrastructure and things that help that local community greatly?
Hey man we need that money for Ukraine, pay up goy!
Reagan emptied the "insane asylums" in the early-eighties because of the financial burden to the taxpayer. Another Republican short-sighted, knee-jerk reaction.
Portland and San Francisco tax-paying residents are leaving by the thousands due to city council cannot control the crime,drugs, and homeless encampments. Looks like San Diego will be next.
The ones that voted no should let the homeless camp out in their backyard.
Kudos to San Diego!!!! California has created/facilitated a culture of Comfort Victims. Electing city officials with feel good policies that do nothing but exacerbate the problem. Finally after 25 years of failure a city is stepping up and drawing the line.
Let each of those 30 people lobbying for a "no" vote take one home to live with them.
They work for homeless advocate groups which get lot of money and don't actually house any homless ever. They enable them.
They are making money for lobbying. No lobby, no jobs. It’s about money in this country, nothing else.
They'd do what you suggest if they're weren't so mean & heartless. Studies through the decades have found that so-called progressives tend to be less generous in donating both their time & money, regardless of income level, & to both secular & non-secular causes
They should take TWO home with them
@@gridley And the conservatives & religious or evangelical group do?
The problem is drugs
And enabling.
No, the problem is income inequality and corporate theft.
@@sdigf3167😢
@@sdigf3167you're not that smart. It doesn't matter how much money a drug fiend can make, all of it will go to drugs... and so much so to the point they become dysfunctional to earn an honest living. You're throwing money into a bottomless pit
It's mental health and drugs. Some of these people are worst not on street drugs. They'll get in frequent arguments, can't live anywhere, etc. If it's funded by public aide the mental health system abuses them all over again. The mental health field have a hard time seeing them as people at that point. I can see why they refuse help. There really isn't any. I give them credit for still wanting to stay alive. It would be hard for me.
Most of the time, people "standing up" for others are in it for themselves really, for money or attention. Not one of them want their pets living anywhere near them. :-/
I stand up for the homeless because i have been homeless my self. Most champagne socialists are like what you describe... but there are a decent amount of people who have compassion for the homeless because they know what it is like to be down and out. It is really unfortunate that looney and dishonest woke politics make it seem like all compassionate people are full of shit.
Those dissenting council members probably don't live near an encampment. Businesses losing customers, unsafe passage on sidewalks for pedestrians, public health concerns...sad, but the general public deserves some consideration too.
To all the people that are against the ban, I promise you, you'd have a change of heart if all this was happening in your front yard. It's easy to act righteous inside the city hall, especially when you aren't directly affected by this on a daily basis.
People need to have some place to sleep. But the fact that they think they can't sleep anyplace they want at zero cost, even prime riverfront or beachfront property that I can't afford to live on, sort of pisses me off. Camping on the side of the freeway doesn't really bother me, I just don't understand how anybody can sleep with the noise, and they probably should have portapotties and dumpsters.
Democracy is a funny thing, isnt it.
This isn't happening in your front yard.
what front yard? people are against it because its so dumb to ignore the problem for so any years then ignore them some more. You think its just going to go away because they cant camp in a rundown area in the middle of the city.
If you dont like homeless people, then this wont solve anything. Once again, in front of wich yard is this one=? you got to stop making up strawman arguments
What do you think this ban is going to do? It just displaces them…..they’ll still be homeless living on the streets
Have these people against the law should let the homeless move into their homes and yards.
They are probably homeless already. Who have time to show up to city council meeting during the day
Wow, admitting you aren't the brightest bulb in the tanning bed in public.
This is the dumbest reply ever
@@sdigf3167 he is not the most aerodynamic aircraft in the sky
not the most buoyant boat on the ocean.
This is a great outcome. I hope other cities follow suit.
The council should designate an area for allowing “tent” areas and provide clean water and restrooms. People saying that this is inhumane, what gives an individual the right to make a place their home anywhere they see fit?
they are not addressing the real problem and that is incompetence..
Using a parking lot as a toilet IS humane?!?
I❤ NY!
Your big wasteful house is anywhere you see fit.
Enormous square footage, enormous energy sucking resource sucking house with landscaping, giant refrigerator. 🤣🤣🤣 You are “normal.” 🤣🤣🤣
@@BufordDuckworth Ummmm sure. I guess you would love for anyone to make themselves at home right in front of your house or in your backyard.
@@chuckhunter77 Right... You're making my point. Nobody likes it when people encamp anywhere they like. Are you confused?
Or are you saying that since Americans did it too, it's acceptable? If you think that this is acceptable, please provide your address so that we could tell people where they can encamp for free.
It’s insane how that’s considered “controversial”….
It's because it doesn't correct any issues. It just turns them into criminals. What are they going to do? Lock them up? Ticket them and they will never pay those fines? Either way the community pays for it and they will still be camping out there when they run out of law enforcement resources.
Being a police officer when I speak with homeless people I always tell them find somewhere that’s out of site and keep it clean. I tell them we only get called on you because you’re in the middle of a trail that’s popular and your trash is everywhere.
Even the hidden places they trash it up so messy and if they were clean they wouldn’t get bothered as much. Nobody wants to see all that trash especially when there’s needles laying around. The sad part is a lot of homeless people don’t want help and they like living the way they do.
We need universal basic income , that will really help out the homeless and SSI for the homeless with mental issues
@@kay8698 We need permanent homeless shelters out in the desert to sober up these miscreants.
We need laws enforced so we don't have these random stabbing crime's. I don't blame the police at all but the politician that make these policies.
fact
Exactly. They do not want help. These stupid politician's keeps wasting tax papers money on these programs that are supposed to help the homeless but in reality majority of the homeless do not want the help.
As a former San Diegan I knew the city would eventually act. I was actually shocked it took so long. They look to their bigger siblings to the North and saw the destruction and mayhem. They are still the best run city in CA
Well that’s about as low a standard as you can have. El Cajon is a good model on this issue, San Diego could learn a lot from their mayor who understands that sometimes tough love is the only love that works. We’ve seen that coddling and encouraging bad behavior only produces much more bad behavior.
Most expensive housing market in the state along with other problems isn’t exactly a great state model for California cities.
Nope, it's all fine until they have to deal with drug addicts in their backyard. I'll wait to see if they enforce it...
Isn't that like being the tallest hobbit?
@@SS-yj2le It's expensive because of the demand. It's only 75 degrees here today in Socal in July, with clear blue skies and sunny. Sure, I could move to Austin, TX where housing is much cheaper, but it's been +100 degrees the past several weeks with high humidity and finally cooled down to high 90's this week. Austin night time temperature is much hotter than San Diego's day time temperature. You can literally run 10 miles out here in July afternoon, can't say the same for Austin.
These pro tent people need to take people into their homes or apt. They can get rid of a dining room table and put a bed for 2 down, use the sofa for one, and if they have an extra room, put three in there. The homeless qualify for cash and food stamps so all their food would be free including the owner or legal tenant.
Why would these council members want to have homeless encampments? Are they willing to invite them into their homes and back yards?
We also need this in LA, SF, Seattle, Vegas...
Wont get it since politicians make too much in kickbacks 💵
Also you are correct. We must distribute the homeless equally. It’s too much for just california to take care of
"We"? How many cities do you live in?
San Francisco Definitely!
@@yenpham-jb4wo You can keep them. Texas houses and trains them, but has a zero drug tolerance policy. I don't think it is a leap to say your drug legalization policies and lack of enforcement of existing drug policy got you into this place. You reap what you sow, so you keep them because you made them with your absolutely bonkers laws.
Believe me, the VAST majority of San Diegans are in favor of this! All those council members that voted against this really should move up to Los Angeles or San Francisco, they would fit right in up there.
LA here, please don't! We have are trying to clean up too! We may have gotten more out of hand but we have a silent majority too.
@@bubba6989 It's a shame you guys couldn't recall that POS Gascon. He has done a lot of damage to LA. But it is par for the course for California. We couldn't recall Newsom or even repeal the unauthorized gas tax!
It’s sad to see a beautiful
Island of hawaii being overrunned by homeless and garbage everywhere.
Better yet, ship them to Portland.
@@guide2befree there’s a city called slab city. It was made by homeless for homeless and nomads.
It's going to get worse than this.. I've been homeless more times than I can count..i was never out in the open like they are..i was in the woods somewhere..i don't drink smoke or do drugs.. it's still on the back burner for me to be that way again.. I'm in Arkansas right now.. everything is so high no one can afford anything.. everything is being done on purpose..
Anyone who says unhoused shouldnt be taken seriously
I wish we had a city council like this in San Francisco and Oakland California
I agree and I for sure wish we had one here in Sacramento we are becoming the homeless capital of the world it is beyond ridiculous we have more homeless now per capita than San Francisco and San Francisco is turning into a shit hole I am so happy that the city council in San Diego did something to save their City
I want to leave the bay area so badly its completely plagued with drugs, and mental instable ppl. And the crime is just getting worse but ppl keep voting to allow homelessness instead of actually fixing the root cause
@@emelyaguirre154I even prefer Sac to the Bay Area, even though it's also under siege
One that put a bandaid on the homeless problem and just makes it less visible? I'd prefer a city council that can actually solve the homeless issue in their city.
@@cbr274no, people would rather kill the poor than help them.
San Diego just approved 31 million dollars to convert an abandoned office into 40 apartments. That's 750k an apartment for homeless people. There's your problem, you think that's acceptable when anywhere else in the country 750k is enough to build a goddam 30 room mansion, not some shitty studio apartment.
I know how they stay homeless
Exactly. We need to get the news to call this out. Blows my mind no news outlet will expose this fraud
@@eqsaelmost likely couldnt afford rent
Can they afford the apartments
Seattle needs to do this. Either take free services and get off streets or deal with consequences.
Add my beloved San Francisco... as well as the beautiful city of Portland. cool ass cities like SF, Portland, Seattle and SD don't need this shit.
I live in downtown San Diego. I walk out every morning to my sidewalks covered in human feces and piss. Heroin needles. Meth pipes. I’ve been attacked twice in 4 months on my way to work. I work two jobs, 80 hours a week to afford living here. Tents need to go
large outdoor tent jails !
NO booze !
NO drugs !
NO freedom !
And make them pay some rent.
We're not all drug addicts... Some of us are your Uber/Lyft drivers..
@@Network126 Som be just homeless fo fun
@@Network126and bad decision makers clearly
@@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr You have no idea what I've been through in life.
Lived here 45 years, and its a disgrace how the city has let this happen. Crime, filth, and drug use everywhere downtown. A classic case of you live with what you allow and if you build it, they will come!
Greedy landlords? Agreed. They're a plague.
Stop voting democrat and your city will get better
Easy for you to say, I imagine you actually have a safe place to sleep. Maybe you'd be more empathetic if you actually had to live like them, they're just flat out of options and they need help.
Welcome to capitalism driven wealth inequality.
@@frickinmeWhat's greedy about buying something and renting it out? They are taking a risk by investing in real estate. You're more than welcome to buy a house and rent it out at below market value to homeless people.
If you actually want to help homeless, put drug dealers in prison and keep them there.
$21.50 per hour working 100 hours a paycheck and still cant afford rent because a studio/1 room is $1600 and cant quilify because you have to make 3x rent an credit score of at least 650 in most places.
What is wrong with these people? It’s one thing to have a heart and another to have it replace your brain. Donate your own homes to the “unhoused” if you feel so passionately. Meanwhile it looks like most are afraid to speak up - silent majority, as the one speaker mentioned - why be silent? I can’t believe we live in a society where people would rather their neighborhoods be turned into slums than be labeled as “mean.”
people, mostly conservatives, were lulled into thinking being a "silent majority" was a virtuous move. I consider a great many of them cowards for believing that and making that their rally cry. I also love how they shamed other conservatives because they didnt feed into their weak BS. Now here we are, and these clowns cant get a grip on the most basic things without feeling they need to be punked into virtue by the weakest among us. SMH
@@williambarrera4629well said
We need universal basic income , that will really help out the homeless and SSI for the homeless with mental issues
As much as I love conservatives, many are too comfortable they forgot that they need to go out there and fight. I understand worrying about your family and safety... and I know you're too tired from work to participate, but for goodness sakes... get off your butt and do something. Pray, contact leadership and tell them how you feel, educate family friends and neighbors, protect your kids from indoctrination... boycott bad businesses... do SOMETHING.
@@catholicfemininity2126 Im going to speak some power to your handle maam, and say, that as a former catholic, I would be more than willing to return to the ranks if the templars made a comeback. Im a combat veteran too, so that would add some tremendous value to that number.
If they have money for cigarettes, booze and drugs they have money for housing.
Ah how did I never realise ! All this time, the few measly bucks I had to buy cigs and beer was actually my multiple tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars that I can use to buy or rent a house !
I really wanna know how much lead paint was used in your house when you were a kid if you think there is any way those amounts of money correlate.
One of those things is vastly more expensive
LA City Council 10/3 actually passed a similar ban. The problem is that no one is enforcing it. So what's the point, if the city and police officers aren't monitoring the encampments?
How many of those against the ban invited a homeless person to stay at their home?
The people who criticized it should be asked if they would take a homeless person into their own home. What do you think they'd say?
I would take a homeless person in ❤
@@angelsdevils2956: well, what’s been stopping you up to this point?
@@angelsdevils2956Do it no one’s stopping you. Heck, take a few.
@@taylormade4393 why don't you do it? stop suggesting things for people to do if you won't do it yourself.
@@angelsdevils2956 Go ahead and post it everywhere and advertise it. Put your money where your mouth is. Also make sure to adopt a few illegals while your at it.
Took longer than I thought it would. Nothing like being physically threatened on the daily, to make one change her mind.
Every major city needs to eliminate this
Love how they make a problem for a problem.
Now the San Diego voters know who to vote out for voting no.
Yup vote these woke liberals out before the city become another Portland
Its so bizarre that you blame poor people for the policies of the rich. You can't be that naive, so you must be corrupt.
@@blogintonblakley2708Yeah because it’s the policies of the rich that are covering the sidewalk with piles of trash, human feces, used needles, etc. The homeless people aren’t doing that.
It would be one thing if the homeless were clean and respectful to the city, but there is trash and human waste everywhere. The city is absolutely filthy.
@@blogintonblakley2708 You're cut from the same cloth as the lazy drug addicted bums.
@@blogintonblakley2708 yes I’m one of the shadowy individuals in the smoky back filled rooms evil and plotting to hurt the poor 👺
If you think letting drug addicted addicts continue to live off the streets, leaving dirty needles out for the public, continuing their addiction by robbing people to buy their next hit is better, maybe you should check yourself. We should not allow people like this on the street, as it does nobody any good. We need to get them into shelters and get them counseling and drug help for their addiction. Living in the street helps nobody.
What SD does not want to be like LA and SF. Those same city council members who voted no should house those homeless.
So where the people going one side of the street to the other side.
Look what’s happening in San Francisco! You need to have regulations to protect the citizens from this unsafe, unsanitary, and drugs on our streets.
"legally, practically and morally not the right thing to do at this time" so lets do what we've been doing the past decade, NOTHING AT ALL. wow such great people!
What would you do? Have you been elected to the office , or just a talker ?
@@bobzelley5100 you’re totally right. We should go destroy these encampments ourselves, who cares we pay most taxes in the nation and still have to walk passed this trash. Then there’s people like you
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The people opposing this ban are so passionate.... they should take some of these people into their homes and help out!
no, they should be angry at the politicians they voted in for being lazy. Stop allowing such poor political behavior to be allowed. Not everyone is homeless in their tents, some are homeless going to work and sleeping in their cars. Something has to be done about the housing cost and these protestors are our voice.
They dont actually care, they just want to be perceived as virtuous
Ya if you dont a homeless person in your home then your opinion doesnt make sense. Ya that makes perfect sense.
They take action now? Where are the homeless going to go to? These Politicians should be ashamed. Their actions have allowed the homeless problem to swell and fester like a bad infection. Now they decide to take the wrong approach 6 years too late. I don't like to see it either. Force all the democrats to take one home!
This is such a dumb take, dude. I would be embarrassed to know someone like you in real life.
You clearly have such little regard for the well-being of homeless people that you'd rather spend time thinking you're pointing out some supposed hypocrisy of the citizens rather than being enraged at the politicians who levied this attack against your fellow man. Absolute L on your part
This is about drug and mental health problems more than "unhouse" or "homeless."
There’s no reason they can’t go to an area that is away from public places. Lots of drug users. The committee can drop off whatever they need . They are afraid of each other, what does that tell you? Why would hard working people want that around there businesses? No!
I don’t live in San Diego but in my town the homeless have gotten so bad you can’t even go downtown town anymore, it is part of the reason why are mall has been slowly dying and company’s have been moving elsewhere or forced to shut down
I live close to San Diego and I see homeless people every day. It has gotten bad and dangerous for us to be around a lot of them.
Have a large open area for tents to be constructed with toilets and showers. The area will be drug free and they will have to work 8hours a day working for the city.
Work eight hours a day for basic shelter? Can't see anyone going for that if it was even legal.
@@hicmadthat’s what the rest of us do , why can’t they?
@@anadez2032they don't want to. They don't want to work, they just want to do get their next fix.
@@anadez2032 You work 8 hours a day for only basic shelter? Sorry to hear it, most people get more for their time.
No one knows what to do and it has gotten out of control. Another San Francisco here we go...
For those who’s hearts are bleeding for the ‘unhoused.’ Consider allowing them to pitch their tents in your backyards, or take them in to your dwellings. Problem solved.
Be quiet. TMH returning the curses on white America. The opioid epidemic is flooding the streets of America. The government purposely flooded black communities with dope destroying generations of families. America is falling and it’s written for it to fall. Y’all raped robbed and murder long enough now it’s time repay for your crimes. This is only the beginning
I like how the mayor finally understood that allowing businesses to fail by allowing homeless people to sleep anywhere they like was going to be a lose lose situation for everyone. It's not about showing empathy, it's about fairness to everyone, including business owners. And the people shaming the mayor just don't understand that equality is for everyone, not just for a single group. By only favoring one group of people and sacrificing another, that's bias either way. You have to protect everyone, not just the ones you deem personally more unfortunate than others. Everyone has a right to live well, including business owners etc. Destroying the entire village to save one group is never going to work. Save the city first, and then you can help the rest after.
This whole problem is because of nimbys and expensive housing. People lose hope and become homeless.
@@Human-qi2rf*i assume they’re talking about what led up to the homelessness that leads to the drug use, The city doesn’t fix problems it puts bandaids on solutions that economically benefit one group of people (typically the rich)*
@@Human-qi2rfHow does this help?🤔🐩
@@deadpirateroberts9937 Sorry, I agree that the cost of housing is a problem for sober working low-income folks. This problem however is the result of substance abuse and mental illness, a different demographic here.
@@deadpirateroberts9937that’s not the issue. The homeless and lazy migrate to places in California because of weather and what the state provides and allows.
Housing is expensive because of overpaid government workers and too many.
Congratulations! Step in the right direction. I hope the bay area picks up on this
wont matter the homeless can't go home so where you going to put them? if you say jail thats $100k more a year per person you will be paying taxes on to support.
Bay Area is too self righteous
@@channelofstuff6662Since you have so much so say they can come and live with you.
@channelofstuff6662 your immediate claim that they have no place to go sets up this wall that i believe won't allow you to dive deeper into more critical thinking and i think you are much more capable than allowing this "absolutism" to cloud your judgement. They all had or have families and friends at some point where they were allowed to stay and i believe those that are homeless now broke the responsibilities or promises that allowed them to stay housed. Whether it be drugs, mental issues, abuse, etc. At least for drug offenses in low security jails there are typically programs to help them get clean with numerous testimonials supporting that. If your main argument is cost, I would argue our taxes would do better having them in jail than on the streets where we have (arguably) better oversight and negotiations on the cost perspective than compared to NPOs that claim to help the homeless - in my opinion they have nice mission statements but zero proof to show their tactics can even make a dent into the homeless problem.
If we look at these NPO programs now trying to house or help specifically those who are addicted to drugs outside of the jail system, you'll see that the millions and millions you and I contributed to in taxes resulted in even more homeless and more to the pockets of those that benefit to keep the population of the homeless high. And their budget increases every year without results. I believe that in the numbers, those who are homeless or live on the streets do so to be closer to drugs. The money we put into free needles and endless supply of narcan haven't done anything to help them get better and it shows in any statistic we try to pull up. We have to do the hard thing here of jailing because it is the right thing to do to save them from themselves. That's my 2 cents at least.
@@channelofstuff6662San Francisco is already spending more than $100K per year on each homeless person. It’s apparent the current service model doesn’t work. Maybe what you imply here, force them into some form of shelter, will be a better use of the tax money.
Why do people commit suicides for something less than homelessness. It is truly sad.
There is no excuse for this at all, California is one of the richest states. The homeless are just going to move elsewhere in the area. You’re not putting them into housing, let alone giving mental health care. Instead, your stuffing money down your pockets, building luxury homes, and other things we do not need. If you had the mindset of Finland where they have a Housing First plan going on, then homelessness wouldn't be such a problem here. There needs to be some kind of class-action lawsuit for human rights violations, protests or something. At this point talking to city councils is a waste of time.
There is no other feasible outcome. Compassion has not worked as it relates to this issue. How many times does one have to highlight the fact that (too many) contemporary homeless people aren't like the Okies in The Grapes of Wrath or like my grandparents when they were young. They are largely entitled, often violent, and most importantly, drug addled. I've ran from them, been nearly attacked by many, and I've given away money to them often only to be mocked and harrassed further. It's disheartening, humiliating, and unfathomable how far this state's policies have tanked a once great state...to the point of (almost) no return. To the idiots who just can't see that...what's your wish...more of this?
Your 1000% correct Richard. And throughout America they are sent to SD / California to be taken care of while the nation points and critiques. If you cannot afford to live somwhere you must find somwhere that is more affordable. That’s not an unreasonable statement for anyone. I cannot live in the Hollywood hills.
@@adamk.7177not true, there are compassionate Individuals who go out of their way to help the homeless but it'll take more to draw awareness to it
@@adamk.7177take them into your home then
Telling it like it is! Thank you Richard. Of course new laws are meaningless without very serious ENFORCEMENT. That's where many cities are totally unwilling to do what's necessary. We'll see if San Diego has the necessary determination...
@@Squeakypickles619compassion wont be enough. They still havent built housing or any real solution.
We have this in Austin, TX. It works great. Most encampments are gone.
Remove the few remaining idiots on your city council. Or even better, have the homeless go camping on their property.
i also live in austin on the south side of town, the ban DOES NOT work great, the homeless people have moved out of downtown and are set up all over south austin along William canon blvd and under i35 , the rich people kicked them out into the neighborhoods where regular people live
Why not give them shelter in the now empty prisons dotted all around the country?
It's so crazy that an ordinance is required for something that is so obvious.
And now what are you going to do with them. They're going to pitch up their tents individually now.
@@bikeenjoyer977 Bulldozers hopefully.
@@Swad-cf8nc the homeless people lmao not the camps fool
@@bikeenjoyer977 if you stop feeding stray cats, they eventually go away.
@@2-old-Forthischet if you think that homeless people will stop existing because of this law you are incorrect unfortunately. These people need help.
"in certain public spaces" where exactly does that mean? IMO, tents should be 100% banned from residential neighborhoods first and foremost as a matter of safety to the people living there. Banning at parks and beaches, so they're worried about the tourist populations seeing it?
If you don’t like the ban have them move in with you.
aka rich areas.
@@npcimknot958 They shouldn’t be anywhere near a business or residence.
We need universal basic income , that will really help out the homeless and SSI for the homeless with mental issues
Wow - they temporarily tried thier tent city crapola at the City's 19th and B compound back in 2018 when we lived and invested 200K in our Golden Hill bungalow right off Broadway. All of a sudden, we had homeless druggers wandering our streets and relieving themselves everywhere! At that time, the City put out an RFP on the street to locate a permanent tent city at the 19th and B site and with one sentence in said RFP about respondents submitting a feasibility study (FS) - with no typical and necessary FS parameters specified. As a consultant and counsel, I nailed them to the wall, pointed out the RFP was flawed, told them that putting any such homeless mitigation center in any one San Diego hood would unfairly and disproportionately burden the hood and affect property values, threatened to sue the City if they didn't pull said RFP, and told them the only place the should locate such a camp is down on City property in the industrial area. And that's exactly what they did - back then! Fast-forward to now and the very corrupt City unilaterally bans homeless street camping but crammed this tent city right back into San Diego's most desirable urban hood! So glad we made big bank on our restored bungalow and property and got the holy hell outta there back in 2020! I feel bad that the rights of Golden Hill property owners have again been trampled on by Gloryhole and his pack of municipal criminals for propping up a never-ending supply of drug-ridden dregs who won't work, won't go into drug treatment as they should be forced to do, who want to live free doing their drugs and commiting ongoing crime to support their $100/day habits, and who will then forever burden the taxpayers. And to that end, bear one thing in mind - myself as having 40 years dealing with the homeless issue from an environmental consulting perspective, those who live on the streets are there because they want to be there, live free, and not dicated to via rules and regs. Those segments of the homeless population who want off the street do get off the street be using the available social service networks that are open to them. Conversely and in the meantime, both the City and their parasitic, in-the-pocket, 501(c)(3) nonprofit grant grifters pull in millions upon millions per year in federal and state grants to deal with (actually grow) their very own pet homeless industrial complex that doesn't solve but is geared to perpetuate and expand the homeless problem at the expense of the hardworking public taxpayers!
There is NO court ruling that allows permanent encampments, period! The rulings in question only state that you may “sleep” in a public space if there is no shelter space available. It doesn’t allow for accumulation of junk, trash, stolen bicycles, pallets, etc. So roll out your sleeping bag, take a snooze, and move along when you wake up.
It's hard to believe that a major city in Ca has the common sense to do the right thing for the majority of the citizens and businesses in their community. Way to go San Diego!
Wow
@@eqsael this would solve public safety issue. Then again what stopping you from inviting these homeless folks into your home? Put your money where your mouth is.
San Diego has historically been a little more conservative than other major CA cities.
@@ryanshiflett2178 it is also a military town. Many folks who live there are retirees.
@@eqsaelIt doesn’t, but it keeps them away from business and public areas that are attractions, and makes those areas more safe.
Great step in the right direction. Tax payers should feel safe at public spaces like parks. No one should feel threatened especially children. Whether is a Junkie passed out in a corner or attempting to bath in broad daylight in a public restroom, tax payers, should feel safe.
Also, housing should be for those who deserve it. The amount of junkies I have seen loitering at Liquor stores/Gas stations while having access to smart phones with data plans is ridiculous. Stop validating negligence and acknowledge the homeless who want change.
The homeless were tax payers once
Obama phones
I feel so sad for anybody that is homeless.
Why doesn’t the city stop rent increases, and tuition hikes, and tax raises, and vacation rentals instead?
It’s important to identify the homeless people and know their situations - addiction to alcohol or other deprugs, they can go to rehab that’s free. A friend of ours decided to leave the city and join a farm that helps addicts. By being i the farm, they get to work the land and take care of pigs and other animals. The produce from the farm help sustain the program. Our friend was able to kick the habit, return to school and get a job. So simultaneously, the government must identify existing programs in and outside the city and send the homeless there. We need to put a stop to living in tents on the sidewalk. That’s cruel. No access to toilets, Southey do their business on sidewalks and people step on them. Banning is the first step but not the last. Homeless people, some with mental concerns, some with addiction concerns, some are recently jobless must each enter distinct pathways to heal and soon can live on their own and integrated into a society of families, relatives, friends, colleagues, etc.
"It’s important to identify the homeless people and know their situations" The problem is you can't easily identify homelessness and know their situations, some just don't want to be rehomed for whatever reasons and the city don't have fund and resources to identify. It will take million of $ fund, if not billions to resolve homelessness the way of your liking, just saying!
People shouldn't automatically be able to live wherever they want.
The rich almost are like that. Of course they have the money 💰
@@jogmas12we cant all live in beverly hills, and thats ok!
Why not?
We let them own pets, and get abortions. We allow others to do all kinds of dumb and stupid things now.
It's called "Tolerance".
All those people against it need to open their doors to them
Last week 11 tents suddenly went up near our Catholic Charities building, Lafayette, La. They were gone in a few days, the police removed them. Just passed by, 4-5 back up. This is a southern red college town.
Stop enjoying the click bait and offer solutions….ACTIONS!
A no BUMmer summer! There should be ZERO tents ⛺️ anywhere. Congratulations 🎉 on passing this! A certain % of these folks need our help but many choose this heinous lifestyle of addiction and madness while the taxpayers subsidize their EBT cards 💳 and become their victims
I fought homelessness while the VA neglected my PTSD case for 8 years. You are not welcome for my service. Next 9/11, serve your own bullshit so I can mock your struggles when you come back disabled.
Thanks for making me hate the country I sacrificed my future for.
Not everyone can afford 3 k a month rent in San Diego ass hole
the rich take more and far worse.
Gosh, you sound so compassionate and sweet :)
More cities need this!
So you're going to criminalize being homeless? What happens when the jails fill up?Or what happens if they go prison and turn criminal from being around real criminals and come back to society?
wtf? It is the United States of America, they cannot give them work or rehabilitate them.
Next step, use our tax payer money to create mental institutions. Free the police to make drug arrests.
This isn’t a homeless problem, it’s a drug and mental health problem.
It is about time. The leaders voted no, please open your doors.
I was homeless in SF for two years after turning 18 and I think this was the right choice. Many of the chronically homeless people don't want to get off the street, esp in CA where they get everything handed to them on a silver platter. I know it sounds fucked but I swear to god its true. If you have been living on the street more than a few weeks it becomes very easy, we used to literally laugh about how people thought we were in dire straights but we were fine. A lot of these people have been doing this for decades and have no interest of stopping. Trying to house them all won't work either. The ones with drug and mental health issues are very difficult and will take the apartment but never be able to hold jobs, keep the place clean, etc. It's sad but true. The only way to help them is to make this lifestyle very uncomfortable and difficult to the point that they WANT to find a way out. If they don't WANT to, they WONT.
amen! thank you for sharing.
You’re flat out lying to push an agenda and you know it. Having worked with the homeless for almost two decades and also having worked in SF with people who have been involved for 40 years, we know the truth and you are not speaking it.
yup, well said!
Congrats on getting off the street! Sounds like you were a bit of a misguided youth. Reading Jordan Peterson helped me in my life, hopefully he can help you as well.
This is EXACTLY what I been saying too. I have homeless friends, and slept at a park at some point while looking for a place, so I got to know a lot of them. It PISSED me off when they would go vandalize things for literally no reason especially when they are being LEFT ALONE. -__-
Let the people against this take a homeless person home and help them then. Actions speak louder than words
Awe once again they dont address the real reason all this is happening, no affortable housing, shocker.
When all of the anger is directed towards the people voting for the ban but none is directed towards the politicians who enabled this problem
you can thank MSM/Yahoo for leading that charge and failing to address any of the real issues. They are simply machines of propaganda at this point
Good job San Diego!
I was back home in SD a couple of months ago and went to go meet some friends near downtown on Island. It looked like a war zone. I want these people to get help, but whatever's being done now is clearly not working at all.
Handouts. They get handouts, and nothing is enforced
Because the police really police things there. That'll really matter when another opens up next door while they're cleaning one camp out.
as a san diego native and citizen, I AM GLAD THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING. for all the people complaining that they have no where to go, that its cruel what they are doing, I INVITE YOU to take some homeless to your place of residence and see how you like it. it’s not only that encampments are dangerous and filthy, it’s the mental health that is out of control. violent outbursts on the mts bus and trolleys, it’s ridiculous. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
Great day for All San Diego Citizens....I was homeless for 5 years.....and Discipline is Key to getting away from addiction and the homeless hopeless life and it is Actions like this that Encourages those to Get Help and to take the Steps needed instead of enabling those in this situation to further Decline.
You have my respects. It takes big balls to push yourself like that. May the help you receive lead you to a prosperous and successful life.
I was also homeless for 5 years I found a job and worked my way out if I can do it so can you
@@readingswithakitsune3477 thats not true...
@@RockPile_ how is it not true? Why do you sound like you don’t want to see them get better?
@@helloworld-ow9tf Don't just jump to the conservative talking point of LiBeRaLs WaNt To HuRt PeOpLe that's clearly not true. This person you're replying to just understands that in many cases it is impossible for these people to just say alright today I'm going to not do drugs and also get a job. I haven't spoken to anyone in months and I am losing my mind but it's job time.
What is actually cruel is to allow mentally ill and addicted individuals to just rot away in their own filth on the streets. They are incapable of getting themselves out of that situation without forceful intervention. They need to be treated, provided job assistance, and only released when they are in a position to support themselves financially. Any costs involved would be more than offset by what we currently spend ignoring the problem.
then bring them inside man.
Allot of them probably aren't crazy except for the fact they have to live that way drives them crazy
@@PaulSmith-rq3nya lot of homeless I've talked to actually enjoy being homeless.
That way they can just shoot up all day and night.
I don't think I'm insulting your intelligence by telling you that you dont know what needs to be done, because there is a clear lapse in judgement on your part for what you advocate.
Yes it is cruel to let the "mentally ill" and "addicted" to their own devices, because these are disability groups that are protected by the Americans with Disabilities Act.
However, when you ask for stripping the disabled of their self determination, you are asking for a very dark future that most think we left behind in 40's Germany.
You have to understand that reality isn't about extremes of letting them be independent when that leads to poor oitcomes nor stripping peoples autonomy and forcing what we think is good for them.
There are many contradictions that don't exist without each other. You have to understand there is time and place for things. That's what the scientific epistemology of dialectical materialism is about.
What you should advocate for is assisted decision making. Let's them make decisions for themselves with guidance of course.
Conservatives be like: 'just let them die'
Progressives be like: 'Lets approach this objectively'
Don’t cancel the ban, cancel the council. Homeless started out with the insane rent, real estate outside investors, and NIMBY, all of which are legalized by city councils
No basic human rights for those people. California is one messed up place.
Move the homeless to the owners that don't want this to happen
Congrats to San Diego. A victory for sanity.
Homeless people with tents: Lets fix this by taking away their tents.
Wow they are still here?! Why?! *surprised pikachu face*
I was amazed when the new councilmen in Venice Beach took initiative to remove the tents. All it takes is leadership to stop making excuses.
A victory for sanity? No. A failure of humanity.