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there is a factual mistake when talking about civilians trapped in the city. Civilians were not forced to stay, it was simply impossible to ferry everyone on the other bank of the Volga under constant air raids. Population of Stalingrad was around 500 000 people, and taking refugees into consideration, at least twice as more ( more certain numbers can be found at Chuyanov's diary, he was chief of Stalingrad defence comitee).
At 3:09, you said that Baku was the target of Army Group A. Although it was a target, the primary objectives were the oil fields at Maikop, which they reached but the Soviets trashed the Oil Fields so well that even the Germans were impressed by how thorough they where, and Grozney, which they fell short of.
Winter did severely effect the German Army- this is well accounted for Germans soldiers were not equipped for a cold weather campaign but things that happened before winter set in like mud had a greater impact in "stopping" the German offensive. Not one thing resulted in Germany loosing and Russia winning.
A J "They did everything wrong and still won the war" that's not even possible. The Soviets did encircle the 6th army, which I wouldn't call wrong, but a strategically good move. It's time to give the Soviets some credit, not the winter.
1. The divisions weren't all Siberian. They were formed all throughout the coutnry. 2. The weather got really cold AFTER the 5th of December - the day when the Soviet counter-offensive began. In October and November it wasn't that cold. Guys, there are basics, in 2018 it's no rocket science to know these simple facts.
German causalities in battle of France ~157,000... German causalities in Stalingrad ~750,000.Basically germans lost 5 times more men in a city than taking whole France. :D
Actually the German Army wasn't stopped by weather conditions rather by a lack of logistic supplies because of the width of the front and because of fierce Soviet resistance adding to a successful scorched earth tactics that prevented the Germans from acquiring valuable amounts of equipments and resources. The War was lost for Germany before a single drop of snow have fell.
KomradeTuniska You also need to take the weather largely into factor as well,the Russian mud near the caucus made it nearly impossible for German motorized supply trucks to cross over.
@@somesketchydude7813 Everything plays into it. The Soviets fought on the same land as the Germans did, but handled the issues much better because they knew of them and prepared for them. Its a disservice to wave away everything with "the weather was responsible" because prepared and experienced commanders can alleviate the issues or stop attacks which would no succeed. While being an excellent army, the Wermacht and its leadership made many catastrophic mistakes which allowed the originally pressed Soviets to massively capitalise on. Its a testament to how good the German army and tech was that it took so long and so many casualties to beat back, even with the blunders they conducted.
@@lamezorlord I never waved away anything,I simply stated the weather would've contributed or played a factor during the war,I agree that weather wasn't the only factor during the war.Infact I never said it was the only factor in the war nor have I ever alleviated the soviet organization or effort during the war.I dont know why you summed up my statements to that.
My grandfather was fighting there in Stalingrad light infantry lost all the finger on his hands and legs due to froze bite. He was part of Soviet Army.
WW2 will always have a place in my heart......my great grandfather burned up in a tank, and one of my grandfathers made it to Berlin......rip to the 21 million + Soviets that died in the war.
May they rest in peace. My grandfather fought from '39 and was captured after the Battle of Stalingrad but survived the war. His brother was presumably taken off the train by partisans on the way back to the front from a 2 weeks furlough, where he just married. Greetings from Germany.
Funny because the US is involved in ONE country(Iraq) that has large oil reserves and not one in the top 3. So yeah..... Watch out!!!! And even if what you insinuate were true about the US and oil, all the aid given to other countries isn't cheap,nor free. US gives WAY more than it takes.
@@RemingtonSteel lolol what are you guys doing to Iran, venezuela? Your deals with the Saudis and other gulf states. But yeh your foreign policy isn't cheap. It's costing you American taxpayers BILLIONS to drop bombs on poor peoples homes and buildings. Such good aid
@@vojislavl6665 You have no clue what you are talking about. US spend $50 billion in aid(not military)last year alone!!! That's supplies, humanitarian efforts. Rebuilding OTHER countries!!! 42% of that goes towards building infrastructure in those countries(long-term development) and half of THAT ($19billion US taxes) goes towards "Bilateral health programs"(aids/hiv etc.....) So what aid you say?!? Have no fucking clue!!! 15% is "short term relief efforts". So my tax dollars are doing plenty to HELP the world. Hmmmmmm
The Turkish Consul in Moscow made pretty much the same remark about the then ongoing battle in Stalingrad... "The lands which the Germans have destined for their living space will become their dying space."
9:30 A very poignant quote; really puts into perspective the position of the common Red Army soldier. Many of these men had their homes and families destroyed by the invading Germans. It's much easier to fight to the death when you have nothing left to live for.
Add here strong winds, that literally drain body of it's heat. Many Germans died in captivity, because they were exhausted to the point of death by previous lack of nutrition and cold weather, often combined with lack of clothing - some sources claim, that Germans were literally undressing dead Soviet soldiers to save themselves from cold, since Soviets got better winter uniform.
Excerpt from order 227 The population of our country, who love and respect the Red Army, start to be discouraged in her, and lose faith in the Red Army, and many curse the Red Army for leaving our people under the yoke of the German oppressors, and itself running east. Some stupid people at the front calm themselves with talk that we can retreat further to the east, as we have a lot of territory, a lot of ground, a lot of population and that there will always be much bread for us. They want to justify the infamous behavior at the front. But such talk is falsehood, helpful only to our enemies. Each commander, Red Army soldier and political commissar should understand that our means are not limitless. The territory of the Soviet state is not a desert, but people - workers, peasants, intelligentsia, our fathers, mothers, wives, brothers, children. The territory of the USSR which the enemy has captured and aims to capture is bread and other products for the army, metal and fuel for industry, factories, plants supplying the army with arms and ammunition, railroads. After the loss of Ukraine, Belarus, Baltic republics, Donetzk, and other areas we have much less territory, much less people, bread, metal, plants and factories. We have lost more than 70 million people, more than 800 million pounds of bread annually and more than 10 million tons of metal annually. Now we do not have predominance over the Germans in human reserves, in reserves of bread. To retreat further - means to waste ourselves and to waste at the same time our Motherland. Therefore it is necessary to eliminate talk that we have the capability endlessly to retreat, that we have a lot of territory, that our country is great and rich, that there is a large population, and that bread always will be abundant. Such talk is false and parasitic, it weakens us and benefits the enemy, if we do not stop retreating we will be without bread, without fuel, without metal, without raw material, without factories and plants, without railroads. This leads to the conclusion, it is time to finish retreating. Not one step back! Such should now be our main slogan.
@P B Stfu, you capitalist bitch. War is no Place for insults, especially if you are dishonoring 20 million dead people. You are a fucking disgrace to humanity.
@@ignis2982 winter is coming every year. From the times of Sun Tzu, it was told to generals to account the weather. So, using the weather is fine, but only a bad general blames it. So no, you can't blame the weather.
@@mikestein1024 most Russian winters are -30, so yeah, it was a German mistake which contributed to the defeat, not winter. It was a German's command mistake not to provide winter clothes. As Russians say, a bad dancer always blames his balls.
The army wasn't exactly diverted to south, that(capturing south) was the main goal in hitler's mind all along. although his generals like Halder and guderian were more interested in Moscow, and wasted precious time and resources on it that might have costed them the campaign.
I wouldn't call it desperate so much as pure fear scaring them straight. Fear is one of the best motivators, and what better motivator than being to that if you're caught retreating, you will be executed on the spot by your own commanders.
@@just4justincase “If they thought about home, it was about the life their enemy had destroyed”. This is a reason. Soviets people fights for their homeland.
My granduncle fought there when he was just 18 years old. He once told my father that they were involved in heavy fighting, I mean he lost all of his friends within one day on which they had to attack a factory in the heart of Stalingrad. After that he and other soldiers killed their commander due to his obscene orders. Fortunately he made it out of there alive by being rescued by one of the last planes to ever leave the city. After the war he was so damn traumatised that he never wanted to touch a gun again Miss you uncle Helmuth!
He didnt exist? You people have been watching too many conspiracy videos on youtube. Next you people will say that the earth is flat, and that doomsday will be coming this sunday. Have some balance in your lives and try not to be so pessimistic all the time.
Soory but there are several mistakes. 1) The Germans lost the battle for Moscow not because of cold weather, but because they were defeated by the Red Army. The Soviets have redeployed fresh troops from Siberia to Moscow as they got the info that Japan will not attack the USSR. 2) The civilians were not forced to stay in Stalingrad only the evacuation was started to late. 3) Also the pronunciation of the soviet general names is way too wrong.
4). Zhukov never took part in Uranus planning. At that time he was taking vommand over Soviet offensive at Rzhev, which eventually was a failure. 5). Neither was Zukov a Chief of Staff at that moment. IMHO, the author should not make history videos on Soviet events, because he understands completely nothing in them.
@@rhysabela7003 Excuses man... It takes courage to admit that you were defeated fair and square. Easier to point at some "reasons" why they didn't win.
My grandfather died at Stalingrad. I still have his war diary. I had parts of it translated, it's eye popping. I plan to will it to my nephew who just joined the Marines. I take small solace that he died early in the conflict and didn't have to suffer like the guys who 'made it' to the end. RIP, Opa Paul.
@@hussainashour6367 Mostly things like '20 April. Slept under truck" But on June 22nd, 1941, he was in Poland, facing Russia. His diary entry that day, in all caps, 'KRIEG MIT RUSSLAND', he then marched for a few days, then started seeing enemy action. Ended up at the Battle of Brody, the largest tank battle in history up to that point. After that he marched all over Eastern Europe before getting leave for X-mas. The last entry is a tiny sketch of a reindeer pulling a sleigh. My mothers recollection of that X-mas would make Satan weep. He left the diary at home when he was called back to service- and shipped off to Stalingrad. The diary he presumably kept with him there was never recovered.
jewando1 The germans wouldnt have attacked the Ussr any sooner. Had they done so they would have to face the mud in the russian roads, due to spring rains. Greece wasnt by any means pivotal to the german fail in the eastern front. Greece did however convinced hitler after the conquest of Crete never to use paradrops again. Also, by 1943 almost 100.000 german soldiers were stationed in Greece, expecting the allies to land there instead of sicily, and to destroy resistance fighters.
To Ιωάννης Μπαλτουμάς Not the soviets. The Russians. I'm tired of "soviets this, soviets that". Russia was the majority of the soviet union and at the time of ww2 the only free nation of the nations of the soviet union at the time.
Overexageration. Russia wasnt the only free ethnicity by then. The caucasus was still around as also the peoples in siberia, kazakstan and the southern republics and the peoples in the far east. Also, Moscow was saved in 1941 thanks to siberian and far east troops. Yes Russia's war participation was majorital, but it didnt won the war single handedly
All those you mentioned were slaves. If they refused the soviet governemn would punish them or send them in the mines or for some other dangerous job. The so called soviet elite is a choice of the majority of the soviet people and the russians were the large majority. At the time of the soviet union there were elections everywhere. Even at the time of the war. Check wikipedia.
Hey there, a person scrolling down the comments. Here's a tip for your own sanity: don't. Return back to the video and pretend that there is no comment section here. Seriously though, I enjoy your videos, Griff, but your channel suffers from the same issues as most of the other edutainment history channels - the exposure to the comment section even for five minutes may give instant stage IV cancer.
I call it the ww2 problem. Nazi's want to see more ww2 footage and flock to those videos, likewise Russian trolls from the putin troll factory roll in because they like inciting arguments. Regardless of that, if you want to know more about Stalingrad in detail look at TIK's channel on these events. He covers it in much more detail and without anything being left to speculation.
@@Madhattersinjeans Oh so Russians who want to say their opinion on how things happened are trolls. So people who have different viewpoints to you are trolls? I thought in the west your allowed to have the freedom of speech. This makes you guys Facists LOOOL Oh wait why am I talking to an american Bot, you won't understand anything anyway)
@@aiwassl2357 So disrespectful, All soldiers should be respected. Plus those Russians only winter saved them else German solders were kicking their asses
Wow, great video! I have to give you a lot of praise for this one. Please continue to do animated/drawn videos of different battles, it makes it a lot easier to understand.
Stalingrad was a mostly Muslim city, it was defended by the Russian Islamic Society in USSR 25% of the population in USSR that time were Muslim, so it shouldnt be surprising.
@@eliasziad7864 more than 55% of people of Stalingrad was Christian and more than 30% were atheists..so Islam and Muslims had no role in defeating Nazis at Stalingrad
@@jayakrishnan26 Exactly, and the rest of the percentage were Muslim, thats why you see mosques in Volgograd, Muslims are mainly in Moscow and the Caucasus in Russia.
1:50 Well, I once read an account that Stalin actually did try to flee from Moscow. I love USSR btw. He forced the others to fight till their death. Donno if it’s true
Many historians think at the Battle of Stalingrad as the "turning point" of the war. Stalingrad had an incredibly effective PR. With Stalin saying not one step back and they should defend the city of his name etc. and Hitler telling the enemy would run if Stalingrad falls. However the axis front north of Stalingrad, along the Don was in terrible shape. The reason was the following: the Germans started to collect their troups to start the offensive spring 1942. But they quickly realized that the men and equipment needed to carry out the attack would leave the front unguarded on a long stretch. Thats because they collected the remaining axis forces (romanians, italians and hungarians). But these auxillary forces were badly equipped, their weapons were not modern, they were not suited for the winter. And they were to few to guard such a long frontline. The Russians firstly encircled the 6th army but then also have destroyed the surrounding forces. The Russian attack was overwhelming carried out by more than a million people. They pierced the frontline and pushed it back, destroying several armies. So at the end it wouldn't had mattered if the Germans took Stalingrad or made 30-50 km more progress, the Russian attack was already in preparation. Also the western allies flooded Russia with foreign aid (Land lease) around the same time. In late 1942, but before Operation Uranus, axis troops captured some soviet soldiers and were suprised that they have good clothing, modern weapons and american canned food. So the German position was already doomed before the offensive, the frontline was too long and the Russians had many more men than the axis.
I enjoyed the video and great illustrations! but if you're aiming for a global audience and not just the usa, myanmar and liberia please use the metric system
Holodomor has been proven that it was not a deliberate act. In the 1930 the whole world starved not just USSR. KAtyn was in war time. Totally justified. Enemies in war time are killed without mercy. So "SVECENAYA VAYNA" continues
RoboTube, Katyn was not in any way justified. It was a purely political move to destroy the Polish intellectual class, so that Poland could later become a puppet state of Soviet Russia. If it were justified, there would have been no need to claim that the Germans did it. Even in wartime, you don't completely throw out the rulebook; you just augment one set of rules with another. And one of the rules in wartime is that you don't murder unarmed people. If you're going to claim that the Soviets were right to do that, then I hope you won't ever even try to complain about Soviet civilian casualties during Barbarossa the year after. That would be hypocrisy.
1. Katyn justified. Everyone who was against USSR in WW2 should be dead. The polish government in exile in London was anti- USSR and those killed in KAtyn were working against USSR. Let me remind you- IN WAR YOU EXECUTE ENEMIES. END OF STORY. Many of those buried there were killed by Germans too - Katyn was a good dumping place. The rulebook says - DO NOT KILL CIVILIANS. THE RULEBOOK SAYS KILL EVERYONE THAT WORKS FOR THE ENEMY'S MILITARY. So enemy officers- armed or unarmed - can be shot on site without questions in wartime. I guess you need to order a copy of the Geneva convention :)
Nope. We'll start with your first paragraph, where you say "Everyone who was against USSR in WW2 should be dead. The polish government in exile in London was anti- USSR and those killed in KAtyn were working against USSR." This is probably the most biased bullshit I've seen in years. The USSR was just as bad as the Nazi Regime, if not worse. The Polish Government-in-Exile therefore had every right, indeed a duty, to work towards protecting their people against Stalin. Being pro-Poland prettymuch required being both anti-Nazi and anti-Soviet. I would like to see some evidence for your claim that all the Katyn victims were working against the USSR. If you mean that they were working to ensure Polish independence from the Nazi and Soviet regimes, then I fully support them in doing so. I have actually been to a couple lectures regarding the Laws Of Armed Conflict. The rules, both then and now, specifically declare that you must not kill unarmed people, unless they have been duly tried and found guilty of a capital offence. Katyn did not result from fair trials. Those people were just rounded up, taken outside, and shot. Enemy officers can be shot on sight if they are armed and actively working to prosecute the war. If they are not in an active state, it may be that they are awaiting an opportunity to surrender, in which case you are obligated to offer them an opportunity to surrender if at all practicable. If they are unarmed, they must not be shot, although you are allowed (even expected) to take them in for imprisonment and interrogation, but not for execution. For someone who claims to know about wartime rules, you seem to be dangerously ignorant about the more important points. If I were the officer unlucky enough to have someone like you attached to my unit, I would assign you to some job which ensures that you will never be involved in taking or processing prisoners. If you kill prisoners, you get a reputation for it, which means your enemies will fight harder and kill more of your own men.
all sides did evil things in ww2. the Germans of course excelled in it because for them it was policy. but the british and americans bombed civilians while the russians had camps for themselves too. stalin wasn't much different from hitler.
yeah depends on your point of view really, if your country was conquered and your people put into forced labor, your bikes stolen and your Jewish neighbors deported like here in the Netherlands then yes, they where the enemies. but not ofc for most of the Germans and their allies in arab countries.
please present your "proof" of why it didn't happen, i've been to places which where camps, heard people tell stories about them, seen pictures. and the statistics too, 11 milion people didn't just magically vanish, so how come that in cities with big jewish populations suddenly their houses of prayer weren't used anymore? and their houses not inhabited?
So something left out that is a very important detail is that the USSR had a military system miltisya. It is a mixture of professional and reserve troops. Most people before the war already had some training from being in the reserves alone. The older people, 40s-60s were more likely experienced in the revolution. These were not just helpless civilians. Many of the people stayed of their own choice, fighting for their homes and families, knowing full well what a German victory would mean. Every family already had at least 1 rifle.
Nope, the Soviets had enough time to evacuate harvest and material, but Stalin refused to evacuate civilians. Women and children were forced to make trenchworks for the Soviets and the men were often sent to battle without rifles. (Beevor) 400,000 civilians trapped in Stalingrad, by January 1943 only 60,000 were left in the city.
Hazzmati yup it was wounded so they sent them back to Germany after 6 month he was able the fight again so they sent him to France but he escape from his military service
A few inaccuracies and misconceptions in this video. The Luftwaffe did supply the 6th army to the best of their ability though no where near what was needed. Also Paulus certainly didn't hold out just so Wehrmacht formations in the Caucuses could escape encirclement. He did it because Hitler ordered him to hold fast, plain and simple. You give him too much credit. If he and Manstien had a backbone the 6th army could have been saved. Not bad for 10 minutes though.
General Paulus requested numerous times to be allowed to break out of the encirclement when it was still feasible, as only a few depleted Russian units were actually cutting them off, whereas a good portion of the 6th Army could have been set to break out, but Hitler denied this request each time, leaving Paulus no other option than to fight until the last man, which he did not do since by January 25th or so, the battle was completely hopeless, no tanks were running, no fuel, no food, no ammo, hardly any able-bodied troops, and no good fortifications to hold. Paulus simply had no choice after being left with such a shitty situation because Hitler could not see the sense in breaking out of the encirclement and leaving Stalingrad temporarily.
Yakov Pavlov, a sergeant in the Red army held down an apartment complex now known as Pavlov's house as the germans kept coming. I know this because of the board game called, appropriately enough, Pavlov's House.
@@4и1 TIK is awesome! but there already is a comprehensive documentary on the bloodiest battle in the western world's history: ua-cam.com/video/8-MinhRb4pE/v-deo.html It's excellent....from top to bottom. Interviews with the men who were there as well as candid details of the orders from day to day.
The author forgot to mention that at the beginning of the Stalingrad battle, the German 6th army had 250 thousand people. And in two Soviet armies in the city - 50 thousand each. The Russian army were much smaller in number than the German one, as is the division. The battle of Stalingrad is called the confrontation of the fronts 500km long near Stalingrad, and the number of people in these fronts is called. But there were much fewer people in the city itself. There weren't millions. This is a small city, it is impossible to accommodate so many people there. The Russians held the city in a minority. And they managed to realize the numerical advantage to encircle the enemy at the second stage. Pure strategic victory. Although if listen to the Germans - they killed more Russians than there were. And definitely won. Well almost. As for the dead prisoners, this is a tragedy. Nobody wanted that. The fighting destroyed all roads in the vicinity, and supplies were destroyed. There was no transport to send 100 thousand people at once to the rear. The condition of the prisoners was catastrophic. I will not describe this shame here, read memoirs, to which the vaunted German discipline and order descended.
I like when history men usually count all USSR casualties (with children ect) and count only soldiers on German side. I just want to say that USSR do not burn villages with all citizens (like German) and do not made attacks with bombardments on civil city quarters, with no military forces in it (like allies) STATISTICS
Genocide? According to demographic statistics USSR made exactly opposite for Europe. Moreover europiens were extremely happy because of Soviet Army successes, cause this was Soviet Army who rescued weak and cowardly eastern europien nations from annihilation ))) If you disagree can you show me statistics of the "genocide"?
One of my granduncles fell in Stalingrad and my grandfather was part of the troops covering the German withdrawal. Another one granduncle barely survived the battle at Kursk. After the war he moved to West Germany because he feared the Bolshevik danger and kind of distanced himself from the remainder of what he deemed a now "bolshevized" family i.e. he remained a staunch believer in the Nazi ideology until the end.
Armchair Magpie my great great grandfather fought on the imperial german army, in a machinegun nest, he said that thousands of russian rifleman rushed his position, only to be slaughtered by mortars, grenades and machineguns.
Rootin for Lenin His dedication to the Nazi ideology didn't pay off you mean, yeah. The Wehrmacht was no place for holiday adventurers no matter how many people attempted to romanticize it after the war. A lot soldiers served either out of duty, their belief in the Führer or because they fully adhered to the ideology. Bullets didn't care however about the motives. Given that my maternal grandma was actually a displaced person from Pomerania, and a maternal grandfather that lost his first wife in an Allied bombing raid I have a family that kind of saw both effects of the war and I know she always held a grudge for that war that stole her home which led to "interesting" debates in the family.
Armchair Magpie damn it, seems tough, fortunately my grand grand grandparent never showed problems with the family, i even tried his stanhelm on once, he was nice.
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I always love to hear histories about ases in the eastern front, there are a lot, but sometimes i hear about the "White lily of Stalingrad" It was a pilot that get only 12 victories but survived the battle and died in Kursk Respects for all the soldiers that gave his lifes in the war, no matter in which country they fought
Great information. One minor critique - you mispronounced the names of the two most important Soviet WWII generals. Georgy Zhukov - the g's are hard, the zh is pronounced like the s in pleasure. Rokossovsky - stress on the 3rd syllable, not the 2nd.
Are you Russian ? I will ask my wife who is Russian to confirm the pronunciation of these 2 generals. Not sure if they were the 2 most important generals-they had many generals like other armies
@@terencelew5735 Zhukov and Rokossovsky were probably the most important Soviet generals in WWII, certainly among the top 5. My wife is Russian, too! I’ve lived in Russia for quite a few years, and I’ve heard these names countless times.
World War 2 is closed to my heart because my grandfather was one of the soldiers in the Philippines. When I was a kid he was telling me the story how he survived and the reason for me to love history until I became a teacher in this subject. Aside from teaching I'm a newbie also of creating this kind of content in my channel. Thank you for sharing sir
Usually I think I do an OK job with pronunciation, but I realize I did complete screw this one up! By the way, it's "Zhukov," not "Zhokov." Man you butchered Zhukov's name spelling! Griff
Quite a shallow summary. In order to understand why the German offensive was so rapid and successful It has to be mentioned about catastrophic Russian offensive on Harkov. Chuikov arrived to Stalingrad in September 1942 - at the middle of the battle. Nothing is told about the fact Russians encircled Germans in the city after smashing Romanian and Italian troops on the flanks. Dive bombers do not do carpet bombings. C-
array s you want to give me a lesson of Russian? It is Harkov, not kHarkov. Chuikov was not in command of the 62 army before the battle. He was in command of the 64th army when it was called 1-st reserve army at the beginning of summer 1942, far away from Stalingrad.
The author of the video seems to be intentionally neglecting some facts.. Looks like some propagandistic goals maybe. Also he uses some of the pseudohistorical books like this "Ivan war". Total rubbish. He should have used some of the russian literature that would be way more objective than western politically-biased one.
not really, the offensive wasnt succesfull at all, the point of the offensive was not to capture stalingrad, it was to encircle Russians in the Don river bend as they did in 1941. But they failed, the russians retreated tot he volga and no major encirclement happened. THEN they separated army group south in A and B, one going to the caucasus thus halving their streenght. THEN the russians started to counterattack. The plan was dumb. Don't blame it on Italians and Romanians. The Axis allies did pretty well considering their equipment and training level. Also its not true that the flanks were only defended by them, there were germans too and they were defeated too. Also the majority of the casualties were dure to battles, not encircled in the city, only a minor portion was encircled there.
Great channel, every video is well articulated and narrated, easy to understand, at least for me, as I’m not a native English speaker, English is my second language.
8:32 its not like they could have escaped even if they wanted to. These men were half starved and battle worn.They had no oil left for the cars and panzer to get out and leaving the city by foot wasnt possible either due to the extrem cold.
Firsth good Video. Second 8:10 I know that he was born in Poland, but we, Polish people don't recognise him as a Polish. It was in Warsaw after war a joke: "- Dlaczego Marszałek Rokossowski ma takie wysokie brwi? - Zdziwił się jak się dowidział, że jest Polakiem i tak już mu zostało..." That mean: "- Why Marshal Rokossowski has such high eyebrows? -He was suprised, when he found out, that he is Polish and that's how he is now...". He identified himself as a Russian. Rest of Video is super, make more like this. Ps.Sorry for my English, i know it is way to far, to be perfect.
Omega Alpha Doubtful, Rokossowski had a strong polish accent. Lots of polish people left Poland and settled in USSR back then, including my grandparents.
It's interesting looking at the countrys' leaders and how far they were willing to go to win. Stalin said, "Moscow will be defended until the last." And towards the end of the war, Hitler refuses to let von Paulus pull back, regardless of how many soldiers would die. Soldiers go into war knowing that that might be their last battle, but it's amazing to me how cold their leaders were to their own soldier's lives, and that they truly didn't care how many died.
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The Armchair Historian I just recently found your channel. And as a history fan, it is fantastic.
there is a factual mistake when talking about civilians trapped in the city. Civilians were not forced to stay, it was simply impossible to ferry everyone on the other bank of the Volga under constant air raids. Population of Stalingrad was around 500 000 people, and taking refugees into consideration, at least twice as more ( more certain numbers can be found at Chuyanov's diary, he was chief of Stalingrad defence comitee).
Could you please include a list of your sources? As a cynical history type, I like to be able to verify information.
At 3:09, you said that Baku was the target of Army Group A. Although it was a target, the primary objectives were the oil fields at Maikop, which they reached but the Soviets trashed the Oil Fields so well that even the Germans were impressed by how thorough they where, and Grozney, which they fell short of.
Please make more of these
“It’s four below zero”
Me: not so bad
“Fahrenheit”
Me: nevermind
Carolyn Thomas where I live that’s normal. I’ve been outside on 40 below zero
Yugoslavian Mapper no I mean farienheight I live in Minnesota
-40 is the same in both
Fite-4-Ever yeah it’s weird number
Bop same I live In Canada
Winter doesn't stop armies, counterattacks do. Moscow wasn't saved by the cold but by Zhukov's 21 siberian divisions.
And since they were Siberian divisions, winter gave them a huge advantage.
But it wasn't just the cold, they were well led, well trained, disciplined and experienced.
Winter did severely effect the German Army- this is well accounted for Germans soldiers were not equipped for a cold weather campaign but things that happened before winter set in like mud had a greater impact in "stopping" the German offensive.
Not one thing resulted in Germany loosing and Russia winning.
A J "They did everything wrong and still won the war" that's not even possible.
The Soviets did encircle the 6th army, which I wouldn't call wrong, but a strategically good move. It's time to give the Soviets some credit, not the winter.
1. The divisions weren't all Siberian. They were formed all throughout the coutnry.
2. The weather got really cold AFTER the 5th of December - the day when the Soviet counter-offensive began.
In October and November it wasn't that cold.
Guys, there are basics, in 2018 it's no rocket science to know these simple facts.
German causalities in battle of France ~157,000... German causalities in Stalingrad ~750,000.Basically germans lost 5 times more men in a city than taking whole France. :D
Lord HawkEye how many Russians died, quite a few
jewando1 Both sides suffered high casualties. The French on the other hand folded like a cheap tent though.
Lord HawkEye In WWI it was French time with Battle of Verdun. In WW2 it was Soviet turn with Stalingrad
jewando1 20 million in all WW2
Dont worry sir, they are French so they will surrender immediately
My great grandfather died there. He was light infantry for the Red Army.
Atomic Apple same
He was a russian who perished as a tankist
Atomic Apple my grandfather was in the Sixth German army and killed several Russian light infantrymen.
Crazy Zombie looks like he didn’t kill enough of them, cause guess who came knocking at Berlin’s door a few years later.
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Actually the German Army wasn't stopped by weather conditions rather by a lack of logistic supplies because of the width of the front and because of fierce Soviet resistance adding to a successful scorched earth tactics that prevented the Germans from acquiring valuable amounts of equipments and resources.
The War was lost for Germany before a single drop of snow have fell.
KomradeTuniska You also need to take the weather largely into factor as well,the Russian mud near the caucus made it nearly impossible for German motorized supply trucks to cross over.
@@somesketchydude7813 Everything plays into it. The Soviets fought on the same land as the Germans did, but handled the issues much better because they knew of them and prepared for them. Its a disservice to wave away everything with "the weather was responsible" because prepared and experienced commanders can alleviate the issues or stop attacks which would no succeed. While being an excellent army, the Wermacht and its leadership made many catastrophic mistakes which allowed the originally pressed Soviets to massively capitalise on. Its a testament to how good the German army and tech was that it took so long and so many casualties to beat back, even with the blunders they conducted.
@@lamezorlord I never waved away anything,I simply stated the weather would've contributed or played a factor during the war,I agree that weather wasn't the only factor during the war.Infact I never said it was the only factor in the war nor have I ever alleviated the soviet organization or effort during the war.I dont know why you summed up my statements to that.
lamezorlord well it really didnt matter kuzz the soviets were mainly on the defensive side not offensive
He mentioned it?
7:38 there’s a sniper playing dead inside that fountain
World at War reference... also don't forget about Dimitri, he was there too
@@canaluludorel5838 also a reference to "enemy at the gates"
yeah and the propaganda guy
In what movie was that?
@@iamneverpro2479 help
My grandfather was fighting there in Stalingrad light infantry lost all the finger on his hands and legs due to froze bite. He was part of Soviet Army.
In mother russia stalingrad segies you
Well, actually, that is pretty correct
Well played sir
“Welp guess I’ll die” -6th army, 1942
Yosef Stalin yes
Haaaa, thats so fucking funnyyyyy
WW2 will always have a place in my heart......my great grandfather burned up in a tank, and one of my grandfathers made it to Berlin......rip to the 21 million + Soviets that died in the war.
May they rest in peace.
My grandfather fought from '39 and was captured after the Battle of Stalingrad but survived the war. His brother was presumably taken off the train by partisans on the way back to the front from a 2 weeks furlough, where he just married.
Greetings from Germany.
@@user-xq4st9ie7r your cappin bro
@@scugnizzo6773 I smell Cap...
X Were they Nazis? Question..did he believe in their ideals?
@@awormnamedscoobis3419 they all were for some extent. The difference was only in how much of a degree.
If it weren’t 2 am and I weren’t about to go to sleep I’d watch the heck out of this
Update: I watched it anyway
that’s how I convinced myself
You rebel
i just got done with my first year of college, i can stay up til 2 if i want to, mom
I did too, it was exactly 2 am.
The Colony Maker 2nd year, huh?
You said oil too much
The Americans are coming
FBI
Open up
You said American the brits are coming
Funny because the US is involved in ONE country(Iraq) that has large oil reserves and not one in the top 3. So yeah..... Watch out!!!! And even if what you insinuate were true about the US and oil, all the aid given to other countries isn't cheap,nor free. US gives WAY more than it takes.
@@RemingtonSteel lolol what are you guys doing to Iran, venezuela? Your deals with the Saudis and other gulf states. But yeh your foreign policy isn't cheap. It's costing you American taxpayers BILLIONS to drop bombs on poor peoples homes and buildings. Such good aid
@@vojislavl6665 You have no clue what you are talking about. US spend $50 billion in aid(not military)last year alone!!! That's supplies, humanitarian efforts. Rebuilding OTHER countries!!! 42% of that goes towards building infrastructure in those countries(long-term development) and half of THAT ($19billion US taxes) goes towards "Bilateral health programs"(aids/hiv etc.....) So what aid you say?!? Have no fucking clue!!! 15% is "short term relief efforts". So my tax dollars are doing plenty to HELP the world. Hmmmmmm
To be fair, most of those German soldiers did "settle" in Russia. :-)
@Superdude70 As Russian saying says, we got enough land for everyone - 2 square meters per man.
@@ceu160193 ну и зачем такая агрессия?ты ведь вкурсе,что народ воевал из-за своей буржуазии а не потому что так сам захотел?
@@sokol0311 i think its quite funny
The Turkish Consul in Moscow made pretty much the same remark about the then ongoing battle in Stalingrad...
"The lands which the Germans have destined for their living space will become their dying space."
True and fucked up.
"The hardest stones cannot bear it for long, only men endure" now that's the thing to remember
"Animals flee this hell"
9:30 A very poignant quote; really puts into perspective the position of the common Red Army soldier. Many of these men had their homes and families destroyed by the invading Germans. It's much easier to fight to the death when you have nothing left to live for.
Its also why the germans fought to the death in the last years of the war dispite it being lost
"it's four below zero"
Me: not too bad
"Fahrenheit"
Me: oh damn.....*looks up what that is in Celcius*...
Me as a Canadian: Yeah -20C is not too bad
Add here strong winds, that literally drain body of it's heat. Many Germans died in captivity, because they were exhausted to the point of death by previous lack of nutrition and cold weather, often combined with lack of clothing - some sources claim, that Germans were literally undressing dead Soviet soldiers to save themselves from cold, since Soviets got better winter uniform.
stolen
A Siberian Russian: *eats icecream, while walking in -30C*
Stalingrad its south of russia :)
Copied
You upload a video on May 9th. On the Day of Victory. Nicely done!
agree
Axper Yeghbayr! 🇦🇲
the soviet union won, but the world lost.
shut up nazi baby
Lord HawkEye if he was baby nazi he would be hitler jugend
Excerpt from order 227
The population of our country, who love and respect the Red Army, start to be discouraged in her, and lose faith in the Red Army, and many curse the Red Army for leaving our people under the yoke of the German oppressors, and itself running east.
Some stupid people at the front calm themselves with talk that we can retreat further to the east, as we have a lot of territory, a lot of ground, a lot of population and that there will always be much bread for us. They want to justify the infamous behavior at the front. But such talk is falsehood, helpful only to our enemies.
Each commander, Red Army soldier and political commissar should understand that our means are not limitless. The territory of the Soviet state is not a desert, but people - workers, peasants, intelligentsia, our fathers, mothers, wives, brothers, children. The territory of the USSR which the enemy has captured and aims to capture is bread and other products for the army, metal and fuel for industry, factories, plants supplying the army with arms and ammunition, railroads. After the loss of Ukraine, Belarus, Baltic republics, Donetzk, and other areas we have much less territory, much less people, bread, metal, plants and factories. We have lost more than 70 million people, more than 800 million pounds of bread annually and more than 10 million tons of metal annually. Now we do not have predominance over the Germans in human reserves, in reserves of bread. To retreat further - means to waste ourselves and to waste at the same time our Motherland.
Therefore it is necessary to eliminate talk that we have the capability endlessly to retreat, that we have a lot of territory, that our country is great and rich, that there is a large population, and that bread always will be abundant. Such talk is false and parasitic, it weakens us and benefits the enemy, if we do not stop retreating we will be without bread, without fuel, without metal, without raw material, without factories and plants, without railroads.
This leads to the conclusion, it is time to finish retreating. Not one step back! Such should now be our main slogan.
I can understand you. Moreover, when we are going to take our land back.
Ура! Победа за нами! за Советский Союз!
Commies
@@californiaranger6232 Сука Блять!
@P B
Stfu, you capitalist bitch. War is no Place for insults, especially if you are dishonoring 20 million dead people. You are a fucking disgrace to humanity.
"Today's video is sponser is skillshare. I know, it's like we're official"
This enraged his father, who punished him severly
Dead
Wrong channel, but ha!
The advance on Moscow wasn’t stopped by weather it was stopped by the Russian forces
AWildBanterlope both actually
@@ignis2982 winter is coming every year. From the times of Sun Tzu, it was told to generals to account the weather. So, using the weather is fine, but only a bad general blames it.
So no, you can't blame the weather.
Yea temps of -30 without proper winter gear had nothing to do with a German defeat
@@mikestein1024 most Russian winters are -30, so yeah, it was a German mistake which contributed to the defeat, not winter. It was a German's command mistake not to provide winter clothes. As Russians say, a bad dancer always blames his balls.
It was both. Have you ever tried firing a weapon in -4 degree weather with just a long sleeve shirt?
The army wasn't exactly diverted to south, that(capturing south) was the main goal in hitler's mind all along. although his generals like Halder and guderian were more interested in Moscow, and wasted precious time and resources on it that might have costed them the campaign.
The will and determination to fight and survive by the desperate Soviet soldiers is unspeakable and astounding.
I wouldn't call it desperate so much as pure fear scaring them straight. Fear is one of the best motivators, and what better motivator than being to that if you're caught retreating, you will be executed on the spot by your own commanders.
@@just4justincase “If they thought about home, it was about the life their enemy had destroyed”. This is a reason. Soviets people fights for their homeland.
@@just4justincase
Nuff with this call of duty history lessons, PLEASE.
My granduncle fought there when he was just 18 years old. He once told my father that they were involved in heavy fighting, I mean he lost all of his friends within one day on which they had to attack a factory in the heart of Stalingrad. After that he and other soldiers killed their commander due to his obscene orders. Fortunately he made it out of there alive by being rescued by one of the last planes to ever leave the city. After the war he was so damn traumatised that he never wanted to touch a gun again
Miss you uncle Helmuth!
Barricades? Or Railroad Station #1 or #2.
Read 'Notes of a Russian Sniper', from the Journals of Vassili Zaitsev. One of the best books out there.
except he never really existed
DoNotTrust, Umm, yes he existed. Search him up. There is a movie called “Enemy Behind the Gates” based on him and German sniper Maj König
He didnt exist? You people have been watching too many conspiracy videos on youtube. Next you people will say that the earth is flat, and that doomsday will be coming this sunday. Have some balance in your lives and try not to be so pessimistic all the time.
Уже и Василия Зайцева не существовало. Здорово.
Adolf Hitler, you can think that.. 😒
Soory but there are several mistakes.
1) The Germans lost the battle for Moscow not because of cold weather, but because they were defeated by the Red Army. The Soviets have redeployed fresh troops from Siberia to Moscow as they got the info that Japan will not attack the USSR.
2) The civilians were not forced to stay in Stalingrad only the evacuation was started to late.
3) Also the pronunciation of the soviet general names is way too wrong.
4). Zhukov never took part in Uranus planning. At that time he was taking vommand over Soviet offensive at Rzhev, which eventually was a failure.
5). Neither was Zukov a Chief of Staff at that moment.
IMHO, the author should not make history videos on Soviet events, because he understands completely nothing in them.
Only reason the nazis lost in Russia was because they couldn’t handle the winter my mums boyfriend was there during the war he even said it himself
@@rhysabela7003 Excuses man... It takes courage to admit that you were defeated fair and square. Easier to point at some "reasons" why they didn't win.
@@rhysabela7003 so how they lost the Kursk battle which hapened in the middle of warm summer? Huh?
[I.B.]-ViRUS- people are stupid. If the winter wasn't bad Soviets would still had one. Just more casualties would had happen
My grandfather died at Stalingrad. I still have his war diary. I had parts of it translated, it's eye popping. I plan to will it to my nephew who just joined the Marines. I take small solace that he died early in the conflict and didn't have to suffer like the guys who 'made it' to the end. RIP, Opa Paul.
What is written in the diary if you don’t mind sharing?
@@hussainashour6367 Mostly things like '20 April. Slept under truck" But on June 22nd, 1941, he was in Poland, facing Russia. His diary entry that day, in all caps, 'KRIEG MIT RUSSLAND', he then marched for a few days, then started seeing enemy action. Ended up at the Battle of Brody, the largest tank battle in history up to that point. After that he marched all over Eastern Europe before getting leave for X-mas. The last entry is a tiny sketch of a reindeer pulling a sleigh. My mothers recollection of that X-mas would make Satan weep. He left the diary at home when he was called back to service- and shipped off to Stalingrad. The diary he presumably kept with him there was never recovered.
He was a Nazi?
@@prajwaldatta1912 Yes, he was drafted into the Wermacht as an infantryman.
@UCnHUwgk6v09bVjf2L9Dv2Tw i feel absoulutley no sympathy for fascists
I'm sick and tired of hearing that the Germans were stopped outside of Moscow due to weather!! It was the soviet staunch resistance first and foremost
Ιωάννης Μπαλτουμάς it was because they had to help Italy in Greece , thus arrived closer to winter than originally planned
jewando1 The germans wouldnt have attacked the Ussr any sooner. Had they done so they would have to face the mud in the russian roads, due to spring rains. Greece wasnt by any means pivotal to the german fail in the eastern front.
Greece did however convinced hitler after the conquest of Crete never to use paradrops again. Also, by 1943 almost 100.000 german soldiers were stationed in Greece, expecting the allies to land there instead of sicily, and to destroy resistance fighters.
To Ιωάννης Μπαλτουμάς
Not the soviets. The Russians. I'm tired of "soviets this, soviets that". Russia was the majority of the soviet union and at the time of ww2 the only free nation of the nations of the soviet union at the time.
Overexageration. Russia wasnt the only free ethnicity by then. The caucasus was still around as also the peoples in siberia, kazakstan and the southern republics and the peoples in the far east.
Also, Moscow was saved in 1941 thanks to siberian and far east troops. Yes Russia's war participation was majorital, but it didnt won the war single handedly
All those you mentioned were slaves. If they refused the soviet governemn would punish them or send them in the mines or for some other dangerous job. The so called soviet elite is a choice of the majority of the soviet people and the russians were the large majority. At the time of the soviet union there were elections everywhere. Even at the time of the war. Check wikipedia.
Thank you for not attempting lame accents when quoting the soldiers.
Love this channel! The animations add a lot to my understanding while I’m listening to WWII audiobooks! Glad to see you guys doing well.
I like this format, very interesting as usual
Germany: Oh I failed in Moscow but I will take Stalingrad
Stalin: So, u have chosen death
Hey there, a person scrolling down the comments. Here's a tip for your own sanity: don't. Return back to the video and pretend that there is no comment section here.
Seriously though, I enjoy your videos, Griff, but your channel suffers from the same issues as most of the other edutainment history channels - the exposure to the comment section even for five minutes may give instant stage IV cancer.
Thanks dude, saved my ass right there
I call it the ww2 problem.
Nazi's want to see more ww2 footage and flock to those videos, likewise Russian trolls from the putin troll factory roll in because they like inciting arguments.
Regardless of that, if you want to know more about Stalingrad in detail look at TIK's channel on these events. He covers it in much more detail and without anything being left to speculation.
You know what we should do.........we should start an "Allies" fanbase to combat the slavaboos and wehraboos
@@Madhattersinjeans Oh so Russians who want to say their opinion on how things happened are trolls.
So people who have different viewpoints to you are trolls?
I thought in the west your allowed to have the freedom of speech.
This makes you guys Facists
LOOOL
Oh wait why am I talking to an american Bot, you won't understand anything anyway)
My Grandfather was in Stalingrad on the german side. He survives and returns home. But he was brocken for his life.
Thank You for this film.
how his today? he still thinkg what he superior to russians?
Aiwass L don’t be rude. I don’t think most of the soldiers knew what they were fighting for
@Aiwass L how are you today? still thinking your morally superior to Germans ?
@@aiwassl2357 So disrespectful, All soldiers should be respected. Plus those Russians only winter saved them else German solders were kicking their asses
Omar Amin and their overwhelming man power and tanks
Wow, great video! I have to give you a lot of praise for this one. Please continue to do animated/drawn videos of different battles, it makes it a lot easier to understand.
Please do the Battle of Verdun next
LucarioAura Kitty (CHAUCHAT MACHINEGUN INTENSIFIES)
I want this very much
Commie Salami best thing is that it would be a long video!
"Verdun was a slaughterhouse"
*Artlilery shelling intensifies*
The most epic battle in human history
Stalingrad was a mostly Muslim city, it was defended by the Russian Islamic Society in USSR 25% of the population in USSR that time were Muslim, so it shouldnt be surprising.
@@eliasziad7864 shut up liar
@@eliasziad7864 more than 55% of people of Stalingrad was Christian and more than 30% were atheists..so Islam and Muslims had no role in defeating Nazis at Stalingrad
@@jayakrishnan26 Exactly, and the rest of the percentage were Muslim, thats why you see mosques in Volgograd, Muslims are mainly in Moscow and the Caucasus in Russia.
@@eliasziad7864 Christians and atheists did more to defeat Nazis than Muslims..Muslims didn't do much during WW2..most Muslims supported hitler
I can't believe that my history teacher is making me watch my favorite youtube channel. lol :)
Your history teacher is fucking awesome.
@@Roketsune Yep she is!
Before Stalingrad.
Hitler: ‘Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.’
Paulus: ‘please don’t jinx it!’
Stalingrad is encircled
Great job armchair historian, the video was great but it left me with more questions than answers.
The bloodiest and most significant battle in the history of the mankind
fun fact; IL-2 ilyushin is now used as fire fighter plane :)
Top 10 anime comebacks of all time
More like the #1
Row, row, row your boat
Gently down the Volga
Loved this! Subbed, nice work and story telling, I am so happy to find this channel :D
We love love love the historic book references...Inferno, Ivan's War, great research!
If time machines are ever invented, this is definitely one of the events I'd want to go back to and watch from above.
No. It is too ghastly.
That's just maliciously morbid.
It will never exist. That's stupid to think about such things
Hitler: I will surround and crush the garrison in Stalingrad!
Stalin: *UNO REVERSE CARD*
1:50
Well, I once read an account that Stalin actually did try to flee from Moscow.
I love USSR btw. He forced the others to fight till their death.
Donno if it’s true
order 227- Not a step back!
Love these videos, keep it up man!
Many historians think at the Battle of Stalingrad as the "turning point" of the war. Stalingrad had an incredibly effective PR. With Stalin saying not one step back and they should defend the city of his name etc. and Hitler telling the enemy would run if Stalingrad falls. However the axis front north of Stalingrad, along the Don was in terrible shape. The reason was the following: the Germans started to collect their troups to start the offensive spring 1942. But they quickly realized that the men and equipment needed to carry out the attack would leave the front unguarded on a long stretch. Thats because they collected the remaining axis forces (romanians, italians and hungarians). But these auxillary forces were badly equipped, their weapons were not modern, they were not suited for the winter. And they were to few to guard such a long frontline. The Russians firstly encircled the 6th army but then also have destroyed the surrounding forces. The Russian attack was overwhelming carried out by more than a million people. They pierced the frontline and pushed it back, destroying several armies. So at the end it wouldn't had mattered if the Germans took Stalingrad or made 30-50 km more progress, the Russian attack was already in preparation. Also the western allies flooded Russia with foreign aid (Land lease) around the same time. In late 1942, but before Operation Uranus, axis troops captured some soviet soldiers and were suprised that they have good clothing, modern weapons and american canned food.
So the German position was already doomed before the offensive, the frontline was too long and the Russians had many more men than the axis.
I enjoyed the video and great illustrations! but if you're aiming for a global audience and not just the usa, myanmar and liberia please use the metric system
I have to agree. To the rest of the world, -4 degrees doesn't sound that bad, but -20 does. And with wind chill...well.
Thanks
Also mention the Royale with cheese at least once.
Neil Wilson wow and I was like:those pussies couldnt stand -4 but -20🤔🤔😶😶
Poor souls .
The metric system is inferior!
*soviet national anthem intensifies*
yeah not really, the soviets suffered greatly themselves. the German army didn't act very civilized.
Holodomor has been proven that it was not a deliberate act. In the 1930 the whole world starved not just USSR.
KAtyn was in war time. Totally justified. Enemies in war time are killed without mercy.
So "SVECENAYA VAYNA" continues
RoboTube,
Katyn was not in any way justified. It was a purely political move to destroy the Polish intellectual class, so that Poland could later become a puppet state of Soviet Russia. If it were justified, there would have been no need to claim that the Germans did it.
Even in wartime, you don't completely throw out the rulebook; you just augment one set of rules with another. And one of the rules in wartime is that you don't murder unarmed people. If you're going to claim that the Soviets were right to do that, then I hope you won't ever even try to complain about Soviet civilian casualties during Barbarossa the year after. That would be hypocrisy.
1. Katyn justified. Everyone who was against USSR in WW2 should be dead. The polish government in exile in London was anti- USSR and those killed in KAtyn were working against USSR.
Let me remind you- IN WAR YOU EXECUTE ENEMIES. END OF STORY. Many of those buried there were killed by Germans too - Katyn was a good dumping place.
The rulebook says - DO NOT KILL CIVILIANS. THE RULEBOOK SAYS KILL EVERYONE THAT WORKS FOR THE ENEMY'S MILITARY.
So enemy officers- armed or unarmed - can be shot on site without questions in wartime. I guess you need to order a copy of the Geneva convention :)
Nope. We'll start with your first paragraph, where you say "Everyone who was against USSR in WW2 should be dead. The polish government in exile in London was anti- USSR and those killed in KAtyn were working against USSR."
This is probably the most biased bullshit I've seen in years. The USSR was just as bad as the Nazi Regime, if not worse. The Polish Government-in-Exile therefore had every right, indeed a duty, to work towards protecting their people against Stalin. Being pro-Poland prettymuch required being both anti-Nazi and anti-Soviet.
I would like to see some evidence for your claim that all the Katyn victims were working against the USSR. If you mean that they were working to ensure Polish independence from the Nazi and Soviet regimes, then I fully support them in doing so.
I have actually been to a couple lectures regarding the Laws Of Armed Conflict. The rules, both then and now, specifically declare that you must not kill unarmed people, unless they have been duly tried and found guilty of a capital offence. Katyn did not result from fair trials. Those people were just rounded up, taken outside, and shot.
Enemy officers can be shot on sight if they are armed and actively working to prosecute the war. If they are not in an active state, it may be that they are awaiting an opportunity to surrender, in which case you are obligated to offer them an opportunity to surrender if at all practicable. If they are unarmed, they must not be shot, although you are allowed (even expected) to take them in for imprisonment and interrogation, but not for execution.
For someone who claims to know about wartime rules, you seem to be dangerously ignorant about the more important points. If I were the officer unlucky enough to have someone like you attached to my unit, I would assign you to some job which ensures that you will never be involved in taking or processing prisoners. If you kill prisoners, you get a reputation for it, which means your enemies will fight harder and kill more of your own men.
1:28 i think soviet counteroffensive , rather than weather played important role in stopping the germans
Advaiet Mishra Why ?
Thanks! Really enjoyed the video. It was an amazing and horrifying battle.
I really like this animated history telling!! Great info🤩
when evil fights evil and normal men suffer.
all sides did evil things in ww2. the Germans of course excelled in it because for them it was policy. but the british and americans bombed civilians while the russians had camps for themselves too. stalin wasn't much different from hitler.
yeah depends on your point of view really, if your country was conquered and your people put into forced labor, your bikes stolen and your Jewish neighbors deported like here in the Netherlands then yes, they where the enemies.
but not ofc for most of the Germans and their allies in arab countries.
Wow SyncKo. Do you have any other quotes from like /pol/?
please present your "proof" of why it didn't happen, i've been to places which where camps, heard people tell stories about them, seen pictures. and the statistics too, 11 milion people didn't just magically vanish, so how come that in cities with big jewish populations suddenly their houses of prayer weren't used anymore? and their houses not inhabited?
john pardon neither for us in South Asia .For us the real enemy were and still are the British
Dang. The amount of lives lost in one battle is appalling. Hell indeed.
So something left out that is a very important detail is that the USSR had a military system miltisya. It is a mixture of professional and reserve troops. Most people before the war already had some training from being in the reserves alone. The older people, 40s-60s were more likely experienced in the revolution.
These were not just helpless civilians. Many of the people stayed of their own choice, fighting for their homes and families, knowing full well what a German victory would mean. Every family already had at least 1 rifle.
ikr, noone was forced to stay. Stoopid western propaganda
Nope, the Soviets had enough time to evacuate harvest and material, but Stalin refused to evacuate civilians. Women and children were forced to make trenchworks for the Soviets and the men were often sent to battle without rifles. (Beevor)
400,000 civilians trapped in Stalingrad, by January 1943 only 60,000 were left in the city.
Actually around 1 million Soviet citizens weren't that scared of the Germans and joined the wehrmacht.....
Ohhhh man I was waiting for this video it's really means a lot for me my grandfather was fighting end in Stalingrad with the Heer of the wehrmacht
Ahmed ben Abdalleh u
But ur name is Ahmed, Chechen?
Pheoras he was my mother father
Did he make it back to germany?
Hazzmati yup it was wounded so they sent them back to Germany after 6 month he was able the fight again so they sent him to France but he escape from his military service
SyncKo he didn't want to be dead and he was knowing that the war is lost
You my friend have gained a subscriber! Been watching your videos most of the evening!
Where legends learned history:
90% Call of Duty
20% Books
math aint right here pal
Where legebds learned math:
Microsoft minesweeper
420% Oversimplified
@@theoofermaniac3783 u best not be hating on the absolute unit that is over simplified
@@thomasbrady3827 no i love oversimplified
A few inaccuracies and misconceptions in this video. The Luftwaffe did supply the 6th army to the best of their ability though no where near what was needed. Also Paulus certainly didn't hold out just so Wehrmacht formations in the Caucuses could escape encirclement. He did it because Hitler ordered him to hold fast, plain and simple. You give him too much credit. If he and Manstien had a backbone the 6th army could have been saved. Not bad for 10 minutes though.
General Paulus requested numerous times to be allowed to break out of the encirclement when it was still feasible, as only a few depleted Russian units were actually cutting them off, whereas a good portion of the 6th Army could have been set to break out, but Hitler denied this request each time, leaving Paulus no other option than to fight until the last man, which he did not do since by January 25th or so, the battle was completely hopeless, no tanks were running, no fuel, no food, no ammo, hardly any able-bodied troops, and no good fortifications to hold. Paulus simply had no choice after being left with such a shitty situation because Hitler could not see the sense in breaking out of the encirclement and leaving Stalingrad temporarily.
Thank god they didn't, good riddance to em
Yakov Pavlov, a sergeant in the Red army held down an apartment complex now known as Pavlov's house as the germans kept coming. I know this because of the board game called, appropriately enough, Pavlov's House.
Great video!
Best researched explanation..kudos
Check out TIK the best n most informative channel about the Battle of Stalingrad
Andi BeastMode he is also in the process of making an epic documentary about Stalingrad which should hopefully come out some time this year
Oh yeah i expect to be the best doc about this battle in the entire youtube.His videos are extremely detailed and to the point.
@@4и1 TIK is awesome!
but there already is a comprehensive documentary on the bloodiest battle in the western world's history:
ua-cam.com/video/8-MinhRb4pE/v-deo.html
It's excellent....from top to bottom. Interviews with the men who were there as well as candid details of the orders from day to day.
How is this outdated? Did someone go back in a DeLorean and change history?
Whatever you do, don't take any meatballs from old ladies in Stalingrad.
The author forgot to mention that at the beginning of the Stalingrad battle, the German 6th army had 250 thousand people. And in two Soviet armies in the city - 50 thousand each. The Russian army were much smaller in number than the German one, as is the division.
The battle of Stalingrad is called the confrontation of the fronts 500km long near Stalingrad, and the number of people in these fronts is called. But there were much fewer people in the city itself. There weren't millions. This is a small city, it is impossible to accommodate so many people there. The Russians held the city in a minority. And they managed to realize the numerical advantage to encircle the enemy at the second stage. Pure strategic victory.
Although if listen to the Germans - they killed more Russians than there were. And definitely won. Well almost.
As for the dead prisoners, this is a tragedy. Nobody wanted that. The fighting destroyed all roads in the vicinity, and supplies were destroyed. There was no transport to send 100 thousand people at once to the rear. The condition of the prisoners was catastrophic. I will not describe this shame here, read memoirs, to which the vaunted German discipline and order descended.
very well done! can't wait to see what else you guys do.
>armchair historian
>no armchair
Ok
I like when history men usually count all USSR casualties (with children ect) and count only soldiers on German side. I just want to say that USSR do not burn villages with all citizens (like German) and do not made attacks with bombardments on civil city quarters, with no military forces in it (like allies)
STATISTICS
Yes you only did mass genocides and turned eastern and central europe communist .
Thanks no thanks
Yeah, he totally forgot about the German civilians in Stalingrad.
Totally forgot the 20 million Ukrainians that were starved to death by Stalin and the mass rapes in Germany committed by the Red Army.
@@arnie9913 proof?
Genocide? According to demographic statistics USSR made exactly opposite for Europe. Moreover europiens were extremely happy because of Soviet Army successes, cause this was Soviet Army who rescued weak and cowardly eastern europien nations from annihilation ))) If you disagree can you show me statistics of the "genocide"?
We are stronger union and United we prefer die for our country
Your union collapsed bud lol
SGT Kunze 😂
@WageSlaving2TheTop ! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
@@thevettegetsitwett We'll build it back up in no time, don't you worry bud.
Kill Capitalists
Amazing video! Great editing!
Love your videos bro keep it up!
One of my granduncles fell in Stalingrad and my grandfather was part of the troops covering the German withdrawal. Another one granduncle barely survived the battle at Kursk. After the war he moved to West Germany because he feared the Bolshevik danger and kind of distanced himself from the remainder of what he deemed a now "bolshevized" family i.e. he remained a staunch believer in the Nazi ideology until the end.
Armchair Magpie my great great grandfather fought on the imperial german army, in a machinegun nest, he said that thousands of russian rifleman rushed his position, only to be slaughtered by mortars, grenades and machineguns.
Armchair Magpie he got what was going to him!
Rootin for Lenin
His dedication to the Nazi ideology didn't pay off you mean, yeah. The Wehrmacht was no place for holiday adventurers no matter how many people attempted to romanticize it after the war. A lot soldiers served either out of duty, their belief in the Führer or because they fully adhered to the ideology. Bullets didn't care however about the motives. Given that my maternal grandma was actually a displaced person from Pomerania, and a maternal grandfather that lost his first wife in an Allied bombing raid I have a family that kind of saw both effects of the war and I know she always held a grudge for that war that stole her home which led to "interesting" debates in the family.
Armchair Magpie damn it, seems tough, fortunately my grand grand grandparent never showed problems with the family, i even tried his stanhelm on once, he was nice.
A J damn that's a fearsome enemy
It seems that us, humans are doomed to repeat the same horrors we inflict on each other through the ages. An endless cycle of suffering ...
afraid so
Correct. Greed prevents humans from learning from the past...
@@viscious_uv2 one day Jesus will return and will put an end to it all
The law of attraction, what you put out into the universe will eventually come back to you in one way shape or form
Note to viewers: As soon as the 'Skillshare' ad starts, just skip straight to 1:20. That's when the actual video comes back, so you don't have to watch the advertising.
But I do have to commend The Armchair Historian for doing it this way. With any other ad, we have to wait 5 seconds, or watch the whole thing. This is better. Unfortunately, I still have to downvote you for your choice of temperature measurements. Everyone except for three developing nations uses Metric. There's no need to use Imperial, it just makes you sound primitive.
The metric system is inferior!
@@benfromvt to what? Measurements of advanced alien civilizations? I agree
I always love to hear histories about ases in the eastern front, there are a lot, but sometimes i hear about the "White lily of Stalingrad"
It was a pilot that get only 12 victories but survived the battle and died in Kursk
Respects for all the soldiers that gave his lifes in the war, no matter in which country they fought
I've restarted this several times and still haven't reached midway. Well put 2gether. Nice vid. Very informative.
End of the beginning for germans
there were quite a few events that you could point out as the end of the beginning for them
Battle for Moscow was before that
Edgehog net ıf he ll get that oil he could expend the war thats why it is the end of them
Great information. One minor critique - you mispronounced the names of the two most important Soviet WWII generals. Georgy Zhukov - the g's are hard, the zh is pronounced like the s in pleasure. Rokossovsky - stress on the 3rd syllable, not the 2nd.
Are you Russian ? I will ask my wife who is Russian to confirm the pronunciation of these 2 generals. Not sure if they were the 2 most important generals-they had many generals like other armies
@@terencelew5735 Zhukov and Rokossovsky were probably the most important Soviet generals in WWII, certainly among the top 5. My wife is Russian, too! I’ve lived in Russia for quite a few years, and I’ve heard these names countless times.
Finally a decent not bullshit channel that deserves more subs and views
World War 2 is closed to my heart because my grandfather was one of the soldiers in the Philippines. When I was a kid he was telling me the story how he survived and the reason for me to love history until I became a teacher in this subject. Aside from teaching I'm a newbie also of creating this kind of content in my channel. Thank you for sharing sir
finally someone else who apreciates history, my grand grandma died by a bomb in ww2, she was soviet
Know the stories well, but still feel like crying every time I hear them.
Man you butchered Zhukov's name pronounciation.
You seem to be mixing up Chuikov and Zhukov. Both names are mentioned and both pronunciation (not pronoun) where good.
And operation Blau
Usually I think I do an OK job with pronunciation, but I realize I did complete screw this one up! By the way, it's "Zhukov," not "Zhokov." Man you butchered Zhukov's name spelling!
Griff
Zhukov was fine. His first name is Gay-or-G-ee not Jor-gee also Chuikov is Chewey-kov.
It's spelled Жуков so it's pronounced Jukov. Not Tsukov. And the "o" isn't that long.
Quite a shallow summary. In order to understand why the German offensive was so rapid and successful It has to be mentioned about catastrophic Russian offensive on Harkov.
Chuikov arrived to Stalingrad in September 1942 - at the middle of the battle.
Nothing is told about the fact Russians encircled Germans in the city after smashing Romanian and Italian troops on the flanks.
Dive bombers do not do carpet bombings.
C-
The Germans had medium bombers that could do a pretty decent job at carpet bombing.
array s you want to give me a lesson of Russian? It is Harkov, not kHarkov.
Chuikov was not in command of the 62 army before the battle. He was in command of the 64th army when it was called 1-st reserve army at the beginning of summer 1942, far away from Stalingrad.
Aaron Bergey he was talking about carpet bombing of the vessels crossing the river.
The author of the video seems to be intentionally neglecting some facts.. Looks like some propagandistic goals maybe. Also he uses some of the pseudohistorical books like this "Ivan war". Total rubbish. He should have used some of the russian literature that would be way more objective than western politically-biased one.
not really, the offensive wasnt succesfull at all, the point of the offensive was not to capture stalingrad, it was to encircle Russians in the Don river bend as they did in 1941. But they failed, the russians retreated tot he volga and no major encirclement happened.
THEN they separated army group south in A and B, one going to the caucasus thus halving their streenght. THEN the russians started to counterattack. The plan was dumb. Don't blame it on Italians and Romanians.
The Axis allies did pretty well considering their equipment and training level. Also its not true that the flanks were only defended by them, there were germans too and they were defeated too.
Also the majority of the casualties were dure to battles, not encircled in the city, only a minor portion was encircled there.
This is very well done.
Great channel, every video is well articulated and narrated, easy to understand, at least for me, as I’m not a native English speaker, English is my second language.
only men endure.. goosebumps man.
1:20
Fahrenheit. The unit 95% of planet doesn't use...
I thought it was 98%
@@6th_Army actually 99!!😂
8:32 its not like they could have escaped even if they wanted to.
These men were half starved and battle worn.They had no oil left for the cars and panzer to get out and
leaving the city by foot wasnt possible either due to the extrem cold.
I've already liked because i know that is going to be an epic video!
exactly 1 year difference while writing this
Everybody is a gangsta until winter starts speaking Russian
Firsth good Video.
Second 8:10 I know that he was born in Poland, but we, Polish people don't recognise him as a Polish. It was in Warsaw after war a joke:
"- Dlaczego Marszałek Rokossowski ma takie wysokie brwi?
- Zdziwił się jak się dowidział, że jest Polakiem i tak już mu zostało..."
That mean:
"- Why Marshal Rokossowski has such high eyebrows?
-He was suprised, when he found out, that he is Polish and that's how he is now...".
He identified himself as a Russian. Rest of Video is super, make more like this.
Ps.Sorry for my English, i know it is way to far, to be perfect.
he could have been born in Russia from a polish familly. I was never interested in his Biography
Your English is pretty good. Anyway, I like the info on Rokossowski!
Omega Alpha
Doubtful, Rokossowski had a strong polish accent. Lots of polish people left Poland and settled in USSR back then, including my grandparents.
It's interesting looking at the countrys' leaders and how far they were willing to go to win. Stalin said, "Moscow will be defended until the last." And towards the end of the war, Hitler refuses to let von Paulus pull back, regardless of how many soldiers would die. Soldiers go into war knowing that that might be their last battle, but it's amazing to me how cold their leaders were to their own soldier's lives, and that they truly didn't care how many died.
Nice work man!
What if skillshare was used to organize the wehrmacht?