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I should add that Elton John was tapped to sing on Poseidon, but Fripp nixed the proposal when he heard Elton's recent debut album Empty Sky. That would be two early prog gigs that Elton missed out on due to Empty Sky (the other being Gentle Giant, as I mention in their JazzRockSoul.com article and livestream). Elton was also involved in Argosy, the proto-Supertramp vehicle of Roger Hodgson.
I like your descriptions of "Suite No. 1" and "Erudite Eyes." It makes me want to go and listen to those songs (which I'm going to do now).
Lizard is my favorite of the early Crimson albums. "Cirkus" and "Lizard" are pure beauty and "Happy Family" is their edgiest psych song.
Side two of Lizard is my favorite album side by KC apart from Red.
Thank you for giving all that attention to the Giles Giles and Fripp record. That's probably the most detailed article on Cheerful Insanity anywhere. It's a good album that needs to be taken on its own terms and not written off as an unsuccessful dry run for King Crimson, as many prog heads put it.
Apropos to From Genesis to Revelation.
Thank you. I'm enjoying this, but the G in Giles is soft - "Jiles". Re. the second album, Cadence & Cascade is between Pictures of a City and In the Wake of Poseidon, but seems to have been omitted. But there are many facts here I didn't know. 🙂
I gave it half a sentence before "Pictures" because it rolled from the Lake/Haskell info. But yeah, I should do more than just call it an "acoustic ballad." I said more about its counterpart on the McDonald and Giles page.
Yeah - and that's just the start. Mistakes and oddities abound in the video as well as the website he tries to proofread. So, here we go - welcome to cafe blah blah...
Hard-G "Giles", as in B-Giles? He "must of got lost!" Tippett does not rhyme with Tibet, and the names Bruford and Deram have long vowels not short ones...Bournemouth is a two-syllable name...this band never did "christian" themselves (!)....Zoot Money's stage-surname is pronounced just as it looks (think: "that's what I want")...Dorset is stressed-on-first-syllable...Aynsley Dunbar's first name is pronounced with an "a" sound...In this context, I wonder if `the sun is "shinning"' was accidental or deliberate (as per Dr Spooner's "when the shun is signing and the turds are bittering!") ? ...also he mentioned Bill Price and refrained from naming Price's most famous (co-)production credit (think: "I don't understand this bit at all")
@@Grithron2: Bill Price on Never Mind the Bollocks?
This was the best period of their career. It's strange how this phase started prog, but more prog bands copied KC's second era.
Have you seen all the memes and art based on the Crimson King album cover? Supposedly, it was duplicated on two sides of a high-rise apartment building.
Are you sure that wasn't photoshopped?
Part 2 - Another set of comments:
FTR: Ibiza is properly pronounced "eye-bee-tha", stress on second syllable. "Pizzicato" is pronounced with short i sounds: it should not be pronounced like "pizza cutter" (!) And "cacophony" is pronounced with the stress on "oph" - except when you're making it a joke, "caca phony", which ZT probably is.
Studio Groon - Sharrock-like? I don't hear that...
Another verbal slip-up - that medicine-man-comin'-across-the-ridge was not called Phillip Good-old Tait (!)
No mention of the fact the Lake/McDonald version of Crimson also played Get Thy Bearings as an improv vehicle.
Re: the album by McDonald and Giles (...now why didn't they just accept their fate and call themselves The Two Farmers?) - he didn't mention that a couple of parts of Birdman, and all of Pictures Of A City, originate in the scrapped Crimson epic Trees - played just once in 1969, a harsh ultra-lo-fi recording of it surfacing on a KC-Club release. Also - the American edition of the M&G album was censored to remove the word "pussy" (replacing it, of course, with "kitten" - ha ha, that worked out, didn't it!) - and the uncensored mix has never been reissued.
Lizard - the album which Fripp despised for many years - still needs to be passionately defended, as well as analyzed a few more times.
Those two notes that dominate the verses of Cirkus are not dissimilar to those in the verses of Easy Money - coincidence I'm sure. The sax breaks in Cirkus seem amusingly "out of place", almost as if Paul Desmond had absent-mindedly strolled into the studio.
Happy Family is based on a riff they were using in their post-Travel Weary Capricorn jams in the 1969 live shows. I've always been a fan of the mid-Happy Family improv, with everyone except Fripp suddenly going "outside", in a way that they didn't quite manage in Bolero.
No acclaim for Nick Evans' contributions to Lizard? Even though he repeatedly grabs the listener by the proverbials, especially in Last Skirmish.
My usual complaint to YT reviewers: for goodness sake, don't sing - don't even talk-sing a la David Tibet, it'll never work!
Finally, ZT is about to turn 50?!...yeah, pull the other one!
Welcome back, Grithron, I'm glad you found me again after all this time. You brought some things to my attention. Your comments on Lizard are enlightening and add to the discussion. I'll go more into those details on the Lizard page (when I start upgrading the album pages to alfa, a few years from now). It would be interesting to read your takes (and critical challenges) to my articles/streams on some of the other acts I've covered over the past two months.
Am I the only person who likes "Pictures of a CIty" BETTER than "21st Century Schizoid Man"?